Episode 134 — The 4 Laws of Mafia Power & The Truth about COINTELPRO w/ Justin Stamm

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And so today we have a very interesting guest joining us with [0:02:54] some insight into all of this and not only the music industry, not only the music industry, [0:03:02] but also political power and how it works in the real world. So today we are welcoming to the [0:03:08] program, Justin Stamm. Justin, we're live, Justin. Oh, excuse me. Sorry. We're live, man. [0:03:15] I was just catching up on real history. How you doing, brother? I'm doing good. How are you? [0:03:20] Good, good. This is wonderful. Absolutely. We've been talking about this since the middle of [0:03:24] COVID. Yes, it's been a while. It's been a long time coming. Justin, of course, for those unaware, [0:03:31] He just released last year, I think it was, a book called The Payola Chronicles, how the mafia and the CIA created rock and roll. [0:03:43] So I guess to start off, we have to kind of get into the bona fides of this thing. [0:03:49] How is it that you came into information about this world, the underworld, the mafia, Payola, pay for play media? [0:03:59] How did this all begin? Where did this start? [0:04:01] If you could give us a brief background, that would be great. [0:04:06] Awesome. Well, thanks for the introduction. I mean, you do it so well with all the other stuff. [0:04:10] I got to take some lessons. So, yeah, this book is only a fraction of what the whole real story is about. [0:04:18] I would say in 1990, 1989 or 1990, my mom, who had been in the film and TV business in her youth, supported herself through modeling and acting and grew up a Jehovah's Witness. [0:04:36] So she was a good girl. [0:04:37] She just happened to have some friends that got her into modeling, was at the Wilhelmina Modeling Agency, which is very prestigious in the 60s. [0:04:47] So short version is she gets married. [0:04:50] My mom and dad get married, have my brother and I, just two of us, my older brother, David. [0:04:57] And after we got old enough, she basically got around the business again, but as a literary agent, a talent agent, an agent. [0:05:07] And she knew some people that knew some wise guys. [0:05:10] and word got to those guys [0:05:14] that she was a stand-up person in the business. [0:05:19] And they like those type of people [0:05:20] and they want to develop those type of people into plants. [0:05:23] And she didn't know anything about that world [0:05:25] other than the woman that got her into modeling. [0:05:28] Her name was Hedy Palermo, obvious Sicilian name. [0:05:31] And she had a lot of family in South Philly [0:05:33] where my mom was Miss Pennsylvania. [0:05:35] and she basically had experienced [0:05:40] a little bit of that world, [0:05:41] but from a good church girl position, right? [0:05:44] And so years later, [0:05:46] these guys basically came knocking on the door [0:05:49] from the Gambino family, actually, [0:05:51] and said, [0:05:53] hey, we want to have an interest [0:05:56] in the film and TV business. [0:05:57] We've got lots of money [0:05:58] and we'd like you to represent our interest. [0:06:01] Karina Hoffman, related to Dustin Hoffman, [0:06:03] told us all about you [0:06:04] and this and that and the other. [0:06:07] So she was scared to death [0:06:09] when the guy that sat down with her said, [0:06:12] and we're not leaving town until you say yes. [0:06:14] I was here in San Diego. [0:06:16] So it's in my book. [0:06:18] It's more detailed. [0:06:19] I'm giving the short brush strokes. [0:06:21] But the background is that [0:06:23] when she told a friend of hers [0:06:26] who at the time was trying to write [0:06:28] the Jimmy Alo story, [0:06:30] Lynn Sherman, [0:06:31] reached out to her [0:06:34] and wanted to see how she's doing. [0:06:36] And she told him what happened. [0:06:37] And she's like, I don't know what to do. [0:06:39] And he goes, I know exactly who to talk to. [0:06:41] Be by your phone tonight at six o'clock. [0:06:43] So she was at the phone [0:06:45] and a guy gets on the phone named Tommy Sobak, [0:06:48] a Polish gangster who is Jimmy Alo's driver, [0:06:53] let's just say, [0:06:54] who did a lot of interesting things for him. [0:06:57] Yeah, so he says, hey, Diana, [0:06:58] I heard somebody's bothering you. [0:07:00] Don't worry about it. [0:07:01] You're with Jimmy now. [0:07:02] We'll take care of it. [0:07:03] they won't bother you again. [0:07:04] She's like, who the heck is this? [0:07:06] So I know I told the story a lot [0:07:08] for the guys that have been around a while, [0:07:10] but it gives a good context. [0:07:12] So she basically says, okay, well, thank you. [0:07:16] And she gets a call the next day [0:07:19] from that same guy from the Gambinos. [0:07:21] It says, hey, I didn't know you were with Jimmy. [0:07:23] I won't be bothering you again. [0:07:25] I'm in New York now. [0:07:27] Okay, goodbye. [0:07:28] She's like, I didn't know I was with Jimmy either. [0:07:31] so short version is is that this uncle jimmy guy is his name is vincent aloe and he was one of the [0:07:39] founders of the american mafia commission and he didn't stay in new york he went to florida he went [0:07:44] all over the world with meyer lansky and they ran a crew together that gave oversight to the [0:07:50] syndicate across the country and took care of interest of their own as well as the american [0:07:55] Mafia Commission's interest in other countries, including Cuba. So years later, two or three [0:08:03] years later, after Tommy bothered her, it says, look, I don't want anybody else doing this. You're [0:08:08] a nice person. You're not going to screw us over or do anything squirrely. She's like, I want to do [0:08:13] nice movies. I don't want to do anything about the mafia. Okay, I'll do it only if it's like [0:08:17] Godfather and it's not gratuitous or whatever. And that's how she got the rights to it. So [0:08:25] So ironically, years and years go by and we're not allowed to talk to him because Jimmy didn't want to happen what happened to Joe Bonanno Sr., which was his son wrote a book and then he got in trouble under Rico. [0:08:35] Right. [0:08:36] We had to wait for him to pass. [0:08:37] And while doing that in 2013, I says, well, why don't we do a story about something I always wanted to do, which was about the music business, but not just the mafia and the music business. [0:08:49] how that was a partnership with the CIA under Operation Mockingbird, [0:08:56] the world, and just the general culture change and influence, [0:09:02] just like what the CIA did with Jackson Pollock. [0:09:05] Right. [0:09:06] Yeah, they financed modern art. [0:09:09] And I don't know if a lot of people have figured that one out. [0:09:11] You know, there's also an interesting story that came out recently. [0:09:14] Let me see if I can find my cursor here. [0:09:16] The story broke, was it like a month ago, maybe? [0:09:20] Billy Corgan came out and he said that he thought that the MTV and the CIA colluded to torpedo rock and roll. [0:09:29] But what's left out, that's just one half of the story. [0:09:32] They also created it. [0:09:34] They created rock and roll. [0:09:36] So let's talk a little bit. [0:09:38] All this modern music is modern art. [0:09:40] It may be more organized than a Jackson Pollock painting, but it was still meant to do the same thing. [0:09:44] It was to purposefully control the change of culture every 10 years or so. [0:09:50] And that's the issue. [0:09:51] Now, I mean, if you talk to a wise guy, especially a big wise guy like Uncle Jimmy or any of those guys, even Mike Falco, which I have recordings of, I put up several times. [0:10:01] Are they going to know about that? [0:10:02] They don't know about that. [0:10:04] Right. [0:10:04] That's like asking Freeway Rick Ross. [0:10:06] Did he know that he was distributing crack cocaine for the CIA? [0:10:10] Not until later. [0:10:11] Right. [0:10:12] In retrospect. [0:10:12] So when I talked to him, that's what he said. [0:10:16] And, you know, it's not just rock and roll, too. [0:10:18] I mean, there was the hip hop as well. [0:10:20] Like the total subversion of black culture as well was a deliberate attack on American culture, you know, encouraging black people to be rapping and singing songs about knocking each other off and selling drugs and all of this. [0:10:35] It was deliberately promoted to, you know, for anarcho tyranny, basically. [0:10:40] Right. To get guys that look like you and me to act like that too. [0:10:43] Yes. [0:10:44] Erase our history, erase our culture and so forth. [0:10:47] And it's ironic that so many young people now are converting to Catholicism [0:10:52] because they instinctively figured out that their parents, [0:10:58] their boomer parents and older Gen X guys, [0:11:01] they were on this suicidal path. [0:11:04] And so, again, how the mafia ties into that, to me, [0:11:08] is that the conspiratorial was already my subject. [0:11:13] And so to bring the mafia into the equation, [0:11:16] to know that they weren't chasing them down [0:11:18] to put them in jail. [0:11:19] In fact, J. Edgar Hoover denied they existed for decades [0:11:21] because they partnered with them. [0:11:23] They did business with them. [0:11:24] They didn't just have pictures on Hoover doing stuff. [0:11:28] It wasn't just that. [0:11:30] They handled the things that people [0:11:33] on official channels couldn't handle [0:11:35] until later on they got other people to do it. [0:11:37] I mean, you don't see the Italian and the Jewish mafia of the American Mafia Commission [0:11:42] handling the heroin network of the world now. [0:11:45] They have other people do it. [0:11:46] They just do it themselves. [0:11:47] They have terrorist organizations do it. [0:11:50] But that's the thing. [0:11:51] It's like to have something operate as a golem for you is how the syndicate has always worked [0:11:59] because it buffers and insulates them just like a mafia boss buffers himself through [0:12:03] his soldiers and capos. [0:12:05] So, yeah. [0:12:06] Now, I guess just, you know, for some background, I guess, on the mafia, there's two things that I'd like to see you cover here. [0:12:13] One of them being what is the, I guess, the traditional mafia or whatever, because this goes back, this goes back to like the 13th century. [0:12:22] And so there's that. And then also the organization and how that evolved in America, right? [0:12:27] Because there were families and then there were what were they called? [0:12:32] Not cells, but there were two distinct crew, a crew, right? [0:12:38] You either had a family or you had a crew. [0:12:40] A family. Now, that was like a racial thing, right? [0:12:43] You can only be in a family if you were also Italian. [0:12:45] But if you if you set up a crew, then anybody could join Jews, non-Italians, Irish, whatever. [0:12:54] So let's paint a little bit of a picture of that [0:12:58] and how it worked, how it evolved, where it came from. [0:13:00] Right. [0:13:01] So for people that might be in our circles, [0:13:04] they would say what you're saying. [0:13:05] They would say, well, what does that got to do with us? [0:13:07] You know, I'm a Catholic guy. [0:13:08] I'm a traditional guy. [0:13:09] I'm fighting where I'm a Protestant or I'm Orthodox. [0:13:11] And I'm fighting for the West against these goblins [0:13:14] trying to ruin everything. [0:13:15] And actually it has multiple lessons in it. [0:13:19] First, going back to the fact that, yes, [0:13:21] The Sicilian Mafia goes back to Old Sicily during the War of Vespers, they call it, from 1282 to 1302. [0:13:31] And they basically rebelled against the French occupiers because they were extremely brutal. [0:13:38] And obviously, in their opinion, as Gates at least pointed out, a mafia historian, in which Jimmy actually knew really well, they rebelled. [0:13:48] They rebelled. What they did was they organized. It's pretty sick how they did it. [0:13:52] But it kind of lines up in my my sub stack that I wrote. [0:13:55] And I ended up putting into the foreword of my book. [0:13:58] And that was they they practiced the four laws of mafia power ending with violence. [0:14:05] And why is that important? Because the War of Vespers started out on the night of Vespers. [0:14:10] I forget which exact date, but that was in 1282. [0:14:13] When all the family and town chieftains, basically, they treat themselves as militia. [0:14:18] They didn't have an organized government. [0:14:20] They were under the French government, but they rebelled. [0:14:23] And so they went into Vespers at church during Vespers, [0:14:27] and they killed the French nobles that were doing what they did to them. [0:14:32] And so the mafia was a liberation declaration against getting rid of these, [0:14:41] and as they looked at it, unjust rulers. [0:14:45] And so... [0:14:46] Foreign influence. [0:14:47] much. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And so although they were instantly excommunicated by, I figured exactly [0:14:53] who I have in my history, but it's like Boniface the eighth or whatever. And so that excommunication [0:15:00] was lifted later on and at the end of the war. And they were recognized as, okay, look, [0:15:05] you're under the protection of the house of Aragon of Spain, but you have your own kingdom now. [0:15:11] and it was called Trinectoria [0:15:13] and then later on the kingdom of Naples. [0:15:16] So the lesson here is that they got what they intended [0:15:19] to get almost very Machiavellian-like, [0:15:22] which is, okay, we're not gonna wait for Rome. [0:15:25] We're not gonna wait for the French to be nice to us. [0:15:27] We're just gonna go and kill them. [0:15:30] And although it's bad [0:15:31] and the war ended up being brutal on both sides, [0:15:34] they proved their tactics to be effective [0:15:37] and they were accepted back into the church at the end [0:15:40] and recognized as legitimately independent from France, [0:15:43] even from Spain, even though they had protection. [0:15:46] So what we can learn from that is what I'm saying [0:15:47] is that out of the four laws of mafia power I indicate, [0:15:50] which are payola or influence peddling, [0:15:53] how to get power, how to exert your influence [0:15:55] in the political sphere, extortion. [0:15:58] Hey, didn't we send those nice girls to you? [0:16:01] Didn't we send those drugs to you? [0:16:03] Didn't we give you 10% of whatever we made [0:16:05] in your territory? [0:16:07] If you don't do what we want, [0:16:08] we're going to dox you, basically, threats of violence and killing. And so you can see this [0:16:16] isn't just mafia tactics, as Machiavelli, Talleyrand, Sun Tzu point out. These are tactics that [0:16:23] everybody uses. This is a lesson in power and political philosophy. And that's different than [0:16:30] a political party. Political philosophy, why? Because if you go to ancient Israel, if you go to [0:16:35] to ancient pagan Rome, Christian Rome, [0:16:40] modern era republics and democracies, [0:16:42] they all use these four tactics. [0:16:46] They may use Robert Greene's 48 Laws of Power, [0:16:50] but really what he describes are micro lessons. [0:16:54] What I'm saying is that those lessons mean nothing [0:16:57] unless you implement action. [0:16:59] So what is actionable in your effort [0:17:02] to get your political, or even if it's just for profit and power like mafia, to get your voice [0:17:08] heard, you have to use force. So you're talking about the use of force doctrine, violence. [0:17:13] You know, this is actually, this is actually like reminding me of a story that I just saw [0:17:18] a couple of days ago up in, what is this? I think this is in Michigan. [0:17:24] No, this is in Indianapolis. 13 shots were fired into the home of an Indianapolis city counselor [0:17:30] with a note reading, no data centers left at the scene. [0:17:35] And this is blown up on X. [0:17:37] A lot of people liking it. [0:17:40] 21,000 likes. [0:17:42] People are starting to get pretty sick of electing people, [0:17:47] sending people into state representative, you know, city councilor. [0:17:51] And then they do the exact opposite of what they campaign on. [0:17:54] We're seeing the same thing with Donald Trump. [0:17:56] Obviously, you know, Trump and Vance, they were the pro-peace ticket, [0:17:59] according to the GOP. And of course, they've launched several wars. They, you know, did the [0:18:05] Maduro shit down in stuff. Oops, excuse me, down in Venezuela. Now the Iran war and people are [0:18:12] getting fed up. And I think that there is a backlash coming in this country from both sides, [0:18:19] not just the right, but both the right and the left. I think people are absolutely sick of this, [0:18:23] you know, and we are very much in the same kind of scenario, foreign hostile occupation [0:18:29] in this country. So, yeah, it's it's it's. And, you know, the other thing and maybe you can kind of [0:18:36] bring bring some stuff out on this. Maybe more people know about it now than they did. But [0:18:43] this fusion between the underworld and the American government, the FBI, the CIA, that all started [0:18:51] around World War Two. There was an operation underworld, which was carried out at the time [0:18:58] by the OSS, where Meyer Lansky was enlisted with Lucky Luciano to provide intelligence [0:19:07] on the Sicilian ports in Italy, as well as protection in America for American ports. [0:19:16] And then that, of course, grew into something much bigger. [0:19:18] So if you want to kind of give us a thumbnail sketch of how that all worked. [0:19:23] Right. [0:19:23] Yeah, on the issue of what you're talking about, the Trumps and the Bidens and everybody else in that, and you have to look at it as a worldview of a political structure. [0:19:36] They have to even get in the door of the political structure. [0:19:40] You have to abide by their rules. [0:19:42] And we know who their rules are. [0:19:45] And they use these tactics, too. [0:19:48] So if you go and do a Charlie Kirk [0:19:50] where you're in the structure [0:19:53] and you decide you want to criticize [0:19:56] the structure that you're part of, [0:19:58] there's one saying in the mafia, [0:20:00] once you're in the mafia, you never leave. [0:20:01] Like once a Marine, always a Marine. [0:20:03] So there's no way to rebel against it from inside. [0:20:07] There's no way to take it down by force [0:20:09] because they are the structure. [0:20:12] They're not the country. [0:20:13] They're not the West. [0:20:14] They're a parasitical Trojan horse [0:20:16] in the West and each host country. [0:20:20] But make no mistake, they use these tactics too. [0:20:23] So to think that Trump, [0:20:26] and I predicted this in 2024 before Trump got in, [0:20:29] I wanted, I don't believe in voting. [0:20:31] I don't believe voting matters. [0:20:32] I never have actually, because I know that. [0:20:34] I mean, Jimmy and Meyer helped fix votes [0:20:36] all over the country. [0:20:37] They were actually involved with, [0:20:40] Jimmy was good friends with Nixon. [0:20:44] Nixon came down to their Hotel National [0:20:46] now in Cuba many times when he was vice president in the 50s under Eisenhower. [0:20:52] And so we can imagine what he was doing down there. [0:20:56] But obviously, we know what they were up to. [0:20:58] They were running their own Epstein-style island. [0:21:02] It was not just gambling. [0:21:04] It was girls. [0:21:05] That was an entry point for all their heroin coming from the island of Corsa, which is [0:21:09] run by the Sicilian mob into Cuba, [0:21:12] to Florida with Santos Traficante, [0:21:15] to Arkansas Hot Spring, [0:21:16] and spread around the country through the Teamster trucks. [0:21:19] That's the distribution network [0:21:20] for a lot of the drugs coming into the country at the time. [0:21:23] So my point is, is that [0:21:24] if you're going to understand how these structures work, [0:21:31] you will understand politics. [0:21:33] And that is this, the end result of all politics is violence. [0:21:37] because somebody is going to want something that's not what you want [0:21:41] and stop you from getting what you want. [0:21:45] Or they'll want the same thing that you want. [0:21:47] And that thing isn't always money. [0:21:48] It's the seat of power to make sure you don't get in. [0:21:52] So that is the end result. [0:21:55] So anybody entering politics claiming they want to be a politician, [0:21:59] a political advocacy group, a political organization of any type, [0:22:04] and they're not willing to commit to those four laws, [0:22:07] As I mentioned, you're not willing to pay somebody off. [0:22:09] Well, then you're getting nowhere. [0:22:10] You're not willing to extort people and say, we got pictures on you. [0:22:15] Threats of violence and killing. [0:22:17] Well, killing and violence isn't, I'm not coming on here saying we need to start like [0:22:21] some right-wing death squad. [0:22:22] What I'm saying is, is that if somebody comes to your front door because they don't like [0:22:25] what you said online and you defend yourself, that's also the use of force and violence. [0:22:30] Right. [0:22:31] Because you're protecting your right to exist, live, and continue to feed your family. [0:22:35] Right. [0:22:36] But my point is that Trump made his deal to get in, and it's not an obligation to us. [0:22:45] It's an obligation to the people that got him there. [0:22:47] My point is in 2024, I predicted... [0:22:52] Everybody needs to say, I was part of the vote to get him in, and this is one last hurrah for democracy. [0:23:01] And now that we know democracy is the enemy and doesn't work, then we can understand that in the end, we need something different. [0:23:09] A true republic, Christian nationalism. [0:23:13] Ironically, as McGold just did a stream where he mentioned, we need something that's a little bit of both socialism and national interest. [0:23:22] And people accuse me, he says, of promoting a, yeah, yeah, he did. [0:23:26] He actually said this. [0:23:27] I just posted on Twitter at the timestamp. [0:23:29] It's like 921 on the outtake. [0:23:31] And he's like, people are accused me [0:23:33] trying to resurrect, you know, Germany and this and that. [0:23:35] He goes, look, if national socialist policies work [0:23:38] and are implemented in a national and social way [0:23:40] for the interest of your own country, then it works. [0:23:42] And it's like, that's what we've been saying. [0:23:44] It doesn't mean you implement everything. [0:23:47] It means that you're putting your country first. [0:23:48] So, yeah. [0:23:50] So you were asking me about the mafia. [0:23:54] What was the second question? [0:23:56] Well, I guess, you know, the first question was kind of like, [0:23:58] where did the roots of this thing come from? Where did it start? So we talked about the, [0:24:01] the Sicilian Vespers thing. Uh, but then I guess, you know, how the mafia was subverted because, [0:24:07] you know, as an Italian, my, you know, I have an Irish last name, but I'm half Sicilian actually. [0:24:13] Uh, you know, my, my family wasn't involved in any of this stuff. Uh, unfortunately, [0:24:17] fortunately or unfortunately, maybe a little bit, but yeah, but I couldn't say if they were, [0:24:22] Even if they were, I wouldn't tell you. [0:24:25] I wore my 1990s Italian tuxedo today. [0:24:30] I was going to wear a jacket because that's how all the wise guys in the 90s and 2000s wore it. [0:24:33] But other times they were wearing just a black shirt with a crucifix. [0:24:37] So I don't know if anybody caught that. [0:24:38] But where's yours? Where's your Italian tuxedo? [0:24:41] I don't. I've got the North Idaho tuxedo going on, you know, a little bit of lumberjack vibes. [0:24:46] But, you know, the mafia was kind of subverted here, right? [0:24:50] And a lot of this had to do with Meyer Lansky and the way that he weaseled his way in running the books for the Italian mafia. [0:24:59] But then also this idea of Cruz as opposed to the family, right? [0:25:04] Because this used to be a family thing. [0:25:06] It used to be a racial thing. [0:25:07] And then it just kind of became a power thing. [0:25:10] And then the government basically took the entire thing over, did a controlled demolition with Rudy Giuliani in the 1990s. [0:25:16] And, you know, now that's all gone, even though, like, you know, it's very clear that [0:25:21] Chabad is basically, you know, inherited a lot of the power, I think, that was out there. [0:25:28] But if you want to talk a little bit about that, how that started and where that kind of leaves that today. [0:25:37] Yeah, well, I mean, it goes actually further back than the U.S. [0:25:41] It goes back to old Europe. [0:25:42] as I stated, after they got the kingdom of Naples, [0:25:48] the mafia families, the different dons [0:25:51] and their cohorts, their militias, [0:25:55] they were used oftentimes by even the papal states [0:25:57] for security and other feudal lords [0:25:59] throughout Southern Europe, [0:26:01] even before the Swiss Guard, from what I understand. [0:26:06] And so, yeah, they were looked at as legitimate badasses. [0:26:10] And it was about 1800 where some of them got involved with Masonic orders like the Kabanari and would eventually turn into the Black Hand and so forth. [0:26:24] So the convergence point for Protestants, revolutionary political movements, and Jewish lodges was the lodge itself. [0:26:35] and so they would often act as enforcers of whatever operations were going on that were [0:26:43] attached to those lodges especially during the italian unification period from garibaldi who [0:26:49] was a mason a lot of drag catholic guys like to deny that but he was definitely a mason [0:26:53] and so that's that's when it began there was no impetus where it's like you know here's the point [0:26:59] where they gave up all their historical values [0:27:02] and just became drug traffickers and woman traffickers. [0:27:06] I mean, Naples apparently, [0:27:08] the Naples mob began trafficking their own women [0:27:10] and Sicilians thought that was betraying their own people. [0:27:15] So they always hated them [0:27:16] and the Nepalese mob hated these Sicilians. [0:27:19] And so when they come to America, [0:27:21] there's a lot of infighting with that. [0:27:22] So it wasn't just Italian. [0:27:24] You had to be Sicilian. [0:27:25] You're a Nepalese, they didn't trust you, you're Sicilian. [0:27:27] So there's all these factions fighting and so forth. [0:27:30] When you come to America, [0:27:31] the connections to a lot of those lodges [0:27:35] weren't as strong. [0:27:36] And that's why they could kind of do what they wanted. [0:27:38] That's why they could go around [0:27:39] and take out somebody that was actual black hand. [0:27:42] And they could get rid of Salvatore Maritano [0:27:45] and Joe de Bas Masseria in the War of Vespers. [0:27:48] They knew that story from the 13th and 14th century [0:27:52] going all the way back. [0:27:54] And so even these guys, not very educated, [0:27:56] and they called that the Castello Morisi War, [0:28:00] but it was known as Night of Vespers [0:28:02] where they would go in, [0:28:05] Jewish mobsters went in under Luciano's order [0:28:07] and take out Joe the Boss and then Maranzano. [0:28:12] And the only Italian that was there was Jimmy Alo. [0:28:16] And this is talked about in my book. [0:28:18] And this ties back to what you're asking [0:28:20] that Jimmy got his button from taking part in that hit. [0:28:24] He became a made guy. [0:28:26] And he got his button under a capo named Johnny Roselli. [0:28:31] And Johnny Roselli later on went to do operations from New York [0:28:35] with the outfit out of Chicago and LA and later on in Vegas. [0:28:41] But he was also involved with a lot of the CIA operations [0:28:44] with Sam Giancana and so forth. [0:28:47] And so later on in the church committees, [0:28:49] when the church committee found out not only was the CIA involved [0:28:52] in a bunch of criminal activity, but also with the mafia [0:28:55] and that they had no oversight whatsoever [0:28:58] since the establishment of the National Security Act [0:29:00] in 1947, 48. [0:29:02] And they're like, how do you not have any oversight? [0:29:04] We're giving these guys millions and millions of dollars [0:29:06] and sometimes they would raise their own money [0:29:08] through black ops, drug trafficking, and so forth. [0:29:11] And so the church committee is like, [0:29:13] okay, this is crap, this is gonna end. [0:29:15] So they're the ones that ended up instituting [0:29:18] the FISA courts that made intelligence agencies [0:29:20] accountable to Congress for the first time in history. [0:29:23] and they called up Gene Khanna and Johnny Roselli [0:29:26] to testify about their operations. [0:29:29] Johnny Roselli and Sam Gene Khanna [0:29:31] both got assassinated before they could talk. [0:29:34] It was Tony Accardo that took him out on my intel. [0:29:38] Gene Khanna took out Gene Khanna in Chicago [0:29:40] and Johnny Roselli was taken out by Jimmy Alo, [0:29:44] the guy that was made by Johnny Roselli. [0:29:47] And it was Tommy Sobeck, the guy I mentioned earlier, [0:29:50] the Polish gangster that pulled the trigger, [0:29:52] stuffed him in an oil drum off the coast of Florida, [0:29:56] and that's where he was discovered. [0:29:57] So neither one of them could testify, right? [0:30:01] Unbelievable. [0:30:02] Yeah, it's unbelievable that it was so closely tied, [0:30:06] but nobody else got pulled up. [0:30:08] Nobody else got assassinated. [0:30:10] And so anybody that was going to confirm [0:30:12] this CIA mafia marriage [0:30:15] was not going to testify or they're dead. [0:30:17] So ironically, RICO laws were passed in 1969, [0:30:21] But during this whole time, they weren't implemented until after the church committee. [0:30:27] And so that's what Giuliani, the FBI, and others, they began severing their ties with the mafia because, look, they could have their own divisions to do the same things through black ops that the CIA or that the mafia was doing years earlier. [0:30:42] Murder Incorporated was assassinating people for business and heads of state. [0:30:49] and so they were the guys they called on but years later the intelligence apparatus and the military [0:30:55] industrial complex attached to it was so advanced they didn't need a fat italian to go and do [0:31:00] something or you know five foot tall jewish gangster to walk in just innocent and quiet [0:31:05] all of a sudden he pulls out a gun and shoots somebody they just do whatever they do now [0:31:09] so um and now that they control the media so well even with social media as it is [0:31:15] they were able to obviously do whatever they want [0:31:19] until social media comes along [0:31:21] where guys like us can talk. [0:31:22] But now they're like, we can do what we want. [0:31:24] You can't do anything about it. [0:31:25] Now what are you going to do? [0:31:27] Now you can say what you want. [0:31:28] Dave Riley, Justin Stamm, anybody else. [0:31:30] But guess what? [0:31:31] We're going to do what we want anyway. [0:31:32] What are you going to do? [0:31:33] You're not willing to follow the laws of power [0:31:36] in which we got power as. [0:31:39] So go and talk online and it's not going to matter. [0:31:43] And that's what they're saying to us, [0:31:44] but it does matter. [0:31:45] Because nobody believes in their bullshit anymore. [0:31:47] So that's a positive thing. [0:31:49] And Trump was the last hurrah on this political structure [0:31:53] as it's crumbling to believe in this. [0:31:56] And now that he's proven, [0:31:57] you can't get anything out of these people, [0:32:00] out of democracy. [0:32:01] Because democracy is designed to deconstruct this. [0:32:05] White guys. [0:32:06] Yeah. [0:32:06] And so we need something new. [0:32:08] And that's, I thought it was funny [0:32:10] that Asmund Gold, of all people, [0:32:12] says something about national social interest politics. [0:32:17] I'm like, hello. [0:32:20] You're right. [0:32:20] Hello. [0:32:21] I'm not saying it has to be national socialism [0:32:23] or even fascism. [0:32:24] I'm saying that even under a true republic, [0:32:26] it is more like what we want. [0:32:29] Right. [0:32:30] Because you're not going to get a monarch in America right now. [0:32:33] You have to have some transitional thing. [0:32:35] And that transitional thing can only come about, [0:32:38] as Oswald Mosley would say, [0:32:39] when the old show has fallen apart. [0:32:42] it's falling apart. I'm very happy about that. It is. And, you know, I think that there's, [0:32:46] there's other, other figures that we can kind of look to, uh, in the past, Garcia Moreno, uh, [0:32:52] being, you know, chief, uh, in my mind anyway, uh, you know, he established the world's first [0:32:57] Catholic Republic in Ecuador. He got rid of the Freemasons. He got rid of our elder brethren in [0:33:04] the faith, uh, took away their right to vote, uh, and then, you know, ruled the country with an iron [0:33:08] fist until he was assassinated by the Freemasons in what, like 1884 or something like that? Good [0:33:14] Friday, I think he was killed, or maybe just a week after that. But anyway. [0:33:18] Yeah, they always choose particular dates, Catholic dates like that. [0:33:21] Right, right. Now, speaking of the church committee, you know, which, hello, Idaho, [0:33:26] we're right back there. And we're going to come back to some of the mafia's ties in Idaho here [0:33:30] in a minute. But one of the other people that was assassinated before he was able to testify [0:33:35] in the church committee was William Sullivan. [0:33:38] Right. [0:33:38] Was it Wild Bill, right? [0:33:41] Now, he was killed in a hunting accident. [0:33:44] I don't have all the facts on me, but he was killed in a hunting accident, quote unquote, [0:33:48] by, was it the son of somebody in the FBI or something like this? [0:33:53] He was shot 100 yards out. [0:33:55] They said he looked like a deer. [0:33:56] Yeah. [0:33:57] Well, talk a little bit about Wild Bill, because he's an interesting character. [0:34:02] You know, for anybody that studied COINTELPRO, the FBI's counterintelligence project, you know, it's really weird, right? [0:34:10] Because on the one hand, you're looking at it and it's like the illegal surveillance of Americans. [0:34:16] It's not good. You know, the stuff that they did spying on their own people was unacceptable. [0:34:24] But at the same time, you start to find out certain things like Bill Sullivan was Catholic, actually. [0:34:29] And he was extremely anti-communist, actually. And he was fighting a total war to the death against communism. And COINTELPRO was part of that, which is interesting. So give us an overview of Sullivan, his life, his career, and what COINTELPRO actually was. Maybe a little bit more of a nuanced view of it. [0:34:54] Right. I'm glad you brought Bill Sullivan up because, yeah, he was instrumental on the approach I was going to take on writing my first screenplay. And when I first met Jimmy Alo back in 96, 97, it was in Vegas when he was visiting his stepdaughter. And me and my mom go over there. It's the first time I met him. It's like two hours. Very old at that time. [0:35:17] and I was just a young guy. [0:35:20] I had done some study about that era. [0:35:22] It was still very much fresh [0:35:23] and a lot of people, [0:35:24] especially boomers and older Gen X guys [0:35:27] about JFK assassination, [0:35:29] RFK, Martin Luther King, [0:35:31] the chaos of the 60s. [0:35:33] And of course, [0:35:34] what was being portrayed constantly, [0:35:36] Hoover as the big evil guy. [0:35:39] And I wanted to, [0:35:41] I had just seen Oliver Stone's JFK [0:35:43] and I asked Jimmy [0:35:45] after going through several things [0:35:46] like one of the first things I asked him on that day [0:35:49] was the same thing my mom asked him. [0:35:51] I wanted to hear it with my own ears [0:35:52] was did you have Benny Siegel killed? [0:35:55] And he says, no, we wouldn't have done that. [0:35:56] That's bullshit. [0:35:58] Sorry. [0:35:58] It's okay. [0:35:59] So yeah, it's what editing is for. [0:36:01] It's fine. [0:36:01] He says we never would have done that. [0:36:03] We never would have done that. [0:36:04] So I'll tell you what really happened. [0:36:08] Swifty Morgan loaned him some money [0:36:09] to build the Flamingo. [0:36:12] And when he called in the loan, [0:36:14] Meyer paid it off completely. [0:36:16] And so all these guys running around and that movie Bugsy and everything else, you know, we killed him. [0:36:22] That's just, you know, Hollywood and newspaper bullshit. [0:36:25] So he says what happened was Virginia Hill and him, and I told her to stay away from that whore, he says. [0:36:32] And he says they got into very violent fights and her brother got very angry and he beat her one too many times. [0:36:41] And Virginia Hill's brother, he says, killed him in Beverly Hills, escaped the country. [0:36:46] with the aid apparently of Hoover [0:36:50] because Hoover wanted Benny Siegel gone too. [0:36:52] He was hogging the limelight of what, [0:36:55] Hoover was an egomaniac, [0:36:56] of the positive and usefulness image of the FBI. [0:37:02] So, okay, so I asked him some other questions like, [0:37:05] okay, I just saw JFK. [0:37:06] Everybody wants to hear about conspiratorial now. [0:37:10] I want to write a story about the assassination [0:37:11] of Martin Luther King Jr., [0:37:13] not for the sake of Martin Luther King, [0:37:15] but for the sake of questioning whether or not the government has the right to kill people [0:37:20] unlicensed throughout the entire world, especially U.S. citizens. [0:37:24] And he says, okay, oh, well, are you going to talk about all the white whores? [0:37:30] First thing out of his mouth. [0:37:31] Second thing was, are you going to talk about him being a commie? [0:37:35] We talk about several things. [0:37:37] And of course, he knew that the government was involved with his assassination. [0:37:41] but it is true. [0:37:43] Something I didn't know about way back then, [0:37:45] back in 96, 97, [0:37:47] is that the night before King was killed, [0:37:50] he was with two white whores [0:37:52] and he put one of them in the hospital [0:37:54] and the other one severely injured, [0:37:56] beat him really hard [0:37:57] because they didn't want, [0:38:00] I'll just say, sodomy. [0:38:02] So he beat the hell out of them. [0:38:03] And it wasn't the first time he did that. [0:38:05] So out of all the research I did, [0:38:08] I spent a long time studying the subject [0:38:11] there's only so much you can get out of [0:38:14] a mafia boss like Jimmy. [0:38:16] And I came up with [0:38:18] what I thought was the central [0:38:20] theme of the story, which was [0:38:21] the COINTEL. And I [0:38:24] wrote, this is my original script, this is how [0:38:26] I got an agent when I was trying to be [0:38:28] a screenwriter. [0:38:30] 2001, first draft, probably [0:38:32] can't see it, 2001 first draft, Codename Zorro. [0:38:34] So Codename Zorro was the name [0:38:36] that the COINTEL profiles that [0:38:38] Alan Belmont and later on [0:38:40] William Sullivan, who headed up Division 5, the COINTEL, counterintelligence against [0:38:46] communist activities division, led up. [0:38:50] And so I discovered Bill Sullivan's story that, yes, Hoover was anti-communist. [0:38:56] He was a John Bircher. [0:38:57] So that's a good thing. [0:38:59] He was against the CIA going around with the international bankers funding communist [0:39:05] activities just to control them and being involved with giving money to Castro early [0:39:11] on in his career in the 50s and having their meat hooks and everything. [0:39:15] So he says, well, this is my territory. [0:39:16] And he made sure that Congress passed laws to say that no foreign intelligence organization, [0:39:22] even U.S., can operate in U.S. soil without domestic attachment. [0:39:26] He refused all domestic attachments. [0:39:28] So guess what the CIA did? [0:39:29] They did it anyway. [0:39:30] They went to local law enforcement, sheriffs, local police departments. [0:39:33] and that was the domestic attachment. [0:39:36] So that's how they operated [0:39:37] a lot of these subversive activities. [0:39:39] They would start the war [0:39:40] where they were sending money [0:39:41] to Soviet Union and foreign aid, [0:39:43] meaning the CIA, [0:39:44] well, the federal government [0:39:45] and private corporations. [0:39:47] And then they would get into a war [0:39:49] with them in Korea, in Vietnam, [0:39:52] and then start student protests [0:39:56] against the war here in the US. [0:39:58] And Hoover hated that. [0:40:00] So if anybody was a hero [0:40:01] in this whole thing, ironically, [0:40:02] even though he was a high-ranking Mason [0:40:05] was J. Edgar Hoover. [0:40:07] And that's the only reason why he tolerated [0:40:09] William Sullivan, the only [0:40:11] Democrat that [0:40:12] worked in the 50 years [0:40:15] that Hoover ruled [0:40:17] the FBI. He was 30 years there [0:40:19] and yes, [0:40:21] the story that went about it was [0:40:23] the last 10 years of his career with Hoover [0:40:25] he headed up [0:40:27] the COINTEL and he was [0:40:29] really going after what he thought was [0:40:31] the worst of the criminals, which was the KKK. He was instrumental in arresting a guy named Gary [0:40:38] Rowe, which was involved with some terrorist activities and the KKK. And then later on, [0:40:43] Hoover and him fought. He kept saying, no, Martin Luther King is involved with Stanley Levison, [0:40:50] codenamed Solo, and the Communist Party USA. And all these other black leaders are also involved. [0:40:55] We know because we have infiltrators in those organizations gathering intel. They're dealing [0:41:00] drugs. They're living off of non-profit money like the Somalians. They're hiring hookers off [0:41:05] of non-profit money. They're doing all this stuff. Plus, they're communicating with Soviet Russia and [0:41:10] Cuba. So I want them gone. And they butted heads on that. Later on, William Sullivan wrote in his [0:41:16] book his discovery of what he called the New Left. And what James Lindsay likes to try to claim that [0:41:24] he discovered was discovered by William Sullivan years ago. And that was this New Left. So what was [0:41:30] this new left. It was this representation of a blend of Marxism and democracy in America. [0:41:36] And it took over the Democratic Party, basically along racial lines. And we know that the drive [0:41:42] eventually was to disenfranchise the white male patriarchy. And so years later, he was being [0:41:49] called up to testify in the House Select Committee of Assassinations, 1977, 78, I believe. And they [0:41:57] basically had recognized due to the church committee's investigations that the CIA and [0:42:02] the FBI botched the investigation of JFK, Martin Luther King, and so forth. And it was having to do [0:42:08] with their involvement with meddling in domestic and international politics. So, uh, 14 people, [0:42:17] federal witnesses were being called up to testify and they all died before they could. [0:42:24] William Sullivan did testify in previous committees and called Martin Luther King [0:42:31] somebody that he thought he would that would be good to lead the black what he called the Negro [0:42:36] movement at that time for civil rights and once he got in it took him about two weeks to surveil [0:42:42] King's activities in 61 62 I think and he says he's the most degenerate disgusting person in the [0:42:48] USA because of the stuff that he saw him under surveillance with his words in [0:42:53] committee. [0:42:54] So he was going to get called again up to the house select committee. [0:42:57] And before he could testify, [0:42:59] it was going to be his big hurrah. [0:43:01] He was going to like prove he was right in fighting Hoover and then got [0:43:04] kicked out of the FBI. [0:43:06] He was going to probably blow the whistle on W. [0:43:09] Mark felt being deep throat. [0:43:10] He was going to do all kinds of stuff, [0:43:13] blow the whistle on Richard Helms, [0:43:14] destroying state's evidence investigations of CIA files. [0:43:18] And he did destroy them, just not all of them. [0:43:22] And then he was shot outside of his cabin [0:43:24] in Sugar Hill, New Hampshire, [0:43:26] by the son of the head of the state troopers [0:43:28] for being mistaken, like you said, [0:43:30] for a deer through a scope. [0:43:33] And he didn't testify. [0:43:35] Now, the conclusion of the House Select Committee [0:43:37] was is that he, James Earl Ray [0:43:41] and Lee Harvey Oswald did shoot JFK and MLK. [0:43:48] but as a larger conspiracy. [0:43:50] Okay, so the question from Congress was, [0:43:52] what was the larger conspiracy? [0:43:54] Well, you can't know it's classified [0:43:56] and they closed it until 2029. [0:43:58] And to this day, it's all blacked out. [0:44:02] And even when they try to declassify it [0:44:04] with the Mary Farrell Foundation [0:44:05] under Ted Kennedy's urging to do so, [0:44:08] it was still blacked out. [0:44:10] And what are you going to get in 2029? [0:44:11] It's going to be blacked out still. [0:44:12] Yeah, it's going to be nothing. [0:44:13] It's going to be the same bullshit that we're seeing [0:44:15] with like the Epstein files [0:44:17] holding up the binders. [0:44:19] Look, look, we finally got it. [0:44:20] And then it's going to be a giant nothing burger. [0:44:23] But do we need confirmation? [0:44:25] We know. [0:44:26] I mean, there's deductive reasoning here that we know. [0:44:29] We don't always need empirical evidence. [0:44:31] We know because look what they produce. [0:44:34] Right. [0:44:34] And if we don't do something about what they're doing, [0:44:36] we're going to not only go extinct, [0:44:38] we're going to be ruled over by like what the UK and London [0:44:42] and other Western countries. [0:44:43] Vivek Ramaswamy. [0:44:45] Yeah. [0:44:45] Yeah. [0:44:45] It's sick. [0:44:45] vote Casey Putsch if you live in Ohio, by the way. [0:44:49] Yeah, that guy was awesome. [0:44:51] Yeah, I tweeted and he liked that tweet last night. [0:44:53] Nice. [0:44:53] That's the issue. [0:44:54] It's like, I don't like violence. [0:44:55] I don't like what you're saying. [0:44:57] You are endorsing a system of government [0:44:59] that not only protects people [0:45:01] and acts out of violence and murder, [0:45:03] but protects Epstein Island goers. [0:45:06] You literally are saying they're legitimate. [0:45:10] You are endorsing their child raping [0:45:12] and the murders and the bombing of civilians in Gaza [0:45:15] and everywhere else. [0:45:17] They've always approved of it, [0:45:19] like in World War II. [0:45:21] And so you're already recognizing [0:45:23] the use of force. [0:45:25] You're just not doing it [0:45:26] to represent true Christian Western values. [0:45:30] And that's where the psychopathy comes in. [0:45:34] You're endorsing it to be used [0:45:35] to protect their reign and their rule. [0:45:38] And that to me is, [0:45:40] that has to be fixed. [0:45:41] That has to be brought to the attention [0:45:44] of every Western man [0:45:45] that's trying to fight here, [0:45:46] yet they think they're going to vote their way out of this. [0:45:48] I'm not saying a violent revolution. [0:45:50] What I'm saying is that the political structure [0:45:52] represents their interests. [0:45:54] We need to have something that represents ours [0:45:56] to exert our interest in the public space. [0:46:00] That's how you do it. [0:46:01] Yeah, and I think we're going to get a little bit more [0:46:03] into that, into maybe some predictions, [0:46:05] into some, yeah, predictions about, you know, [0:46:08] where we're going to be headed in the next couple of years. [0:46:10] But before we do that, we're taking a little detour [0:46:12] over into Idaho. [0:46:15] because it's so interesting to me, you know, so I ran for school board in 2021, right? Yeah, 21. [0:46:24] And, you know, here I am. I'm just like, I'm an expert on critical race theory, DEI and all of [0:46:29] this type of stuff. The Frankfurt School, like, you know, nobody had ever heard of any of this [0:46:32] stuff before. I started giving speeches at like churches around town, announced my candidacy. [0:46:36] And then all of a sudden the Jewish Daily Forward, Haaretz, Jerusalem Post, Israel Hayom, [0:46:41] All of these outlets, Jewish News Syndicate, all started writing these articles about my bid for school board. [0:46:48] And I'm like, what the, what's going on here? [0:46:52] Why do people in Israel care about a small backwater school board in North Idaho? [0:47:02] And it's one seat. [0:47:04] You need the whole board to be able to do stuff. [0:47:07] It's not like, you know, me winning one seat. I would be like the dictator of Post Falls School District or something like that. [0:47:13] So it struck me. And I was just like, there is clearly a connection here in North Idaho between us and Israel. [0:47:21] And I didn't understand it. And that's that led me to start digging. [0:47:25] And at the time, there were no newspaper archives. Nothing had been digitized. Nothing was searchable. [0:47:30] I literally had to go and I would spend 10 hours a day at the Coeur d'Alene Library going page by page. [0:47:35] through the Coeur d'Alene press. Sounds like what I did with all my subjects. Yeah, to try to piece [0:47:40] together like what the hell is going on? Because, you know, we've also got this kind of story about [0:47:46] North Idaho because of Randy Weaver and all of the activity that had been going on up here. And [0:47:52] every time I'd ask somebody who lived up here, it's like, can you explain Ruby Ridge? Can you [0:47:58] explain the Aryan Nations? What the hell was going on up here? Why? And the explanation is always, [0:48:05] they hate us for our freedom. And I'm like, where have I heard that before? That ain't it. It ain't [0:48:11] because a bunch of libertarians live in North Idaho. And so I started digging and digging and [0:48:16] digging. And all of a sudden I found this like wealth of evidence. I'm going to have to either [0:48:20] write a book about it or maybe do a documentary about it sometime. But guess who our prohibition [0:48:27] agent was in 1926? Who? The elder brother of Al Capone, James Vincenzo Capone. Very interesting. [0:48:34] was our prohibition agent. And he's up here in the Spokane Chronicle spokesman review. [0:48:39] He went by a fake name that he stole actually from a Hollywood actor, Richard Hart. That was [0:48:46] not his real name. Let me actually pull up, let's see, Richard Hart Capone. Yep, here it is. So [0:48:55] this is James. Look at him. He passed himself off as a Native American. And of course, he didn't [0:49:00] to speak English that well. He came from Salerno, Italy, but he went by the fake name of Richard [0:49:06] James Tugunhart. Yeah, there was a lot of that. Where he got a gig working for the Bureau of [0:49:12] Indian Affairs and then later as a prohibition agent. You see, he was transferred to the Spokane [0:49:18] Indian Reservation, where, of course, they were using these Indian reservations to traffic [0:49:24] alcohol from Chicago to Seattle, right? So this should be giving like, and I'm sorry, [0:49:32] I'm going on a little bit here. No, this is great. I love this stuff. You have to flesh all [0:49:36] this stuff out for people to understand its impact. So it was about the movement of prohibited [0:49:41] goods through North Idaho. That was the value proposition. And then you start going into like [0:49:47] the maps. You zoom in on the names of the roads in North Idaho, right on the border of Canada. [0:49:53] What is it called? Bootlegger's Lane, Smuggler's Road, blah, blah. And it's just like, oh, now I see. There's also a movie that came out, Kid Cannabis, about this young kid from Coeur d'Alene that was trafficking BC Bud from Canada. He was the number one marijuana trafficker of that particular strain. [0:50:13] there's a whole movie made about it Richard Perlman Epstein associate was in the movie [0:50:18] playing an Israeli agent that was facilitating and buying the drugs giving the kid the money [0:50:23] to move the the drugs over the border so so this is a little bit closer of like okay why were the [0:50:31] feds interested in North Idaho this is starts to give us a little bit more of an explanation then [0:50:36] come to find out that Spokane was also and still is a major hub for the Russian mafia now [0:50:43] Now, the Russian mafia is actually Jewish. [0:50:46] A lot of people don't know that. [0:50:48] They are under some sort of illusion. [0:50:50] Well, Meyer was from Russia. [0:50:51] Yes. [0:50:52] His family is from Russia. [0:50:53] Yes. [0:50:53] Yes. [0:50:53] And so then you've got that. [0:50:55] But then the real crazy tying in with all of this to bring it all together, there was [0:51:03] an FBI agent that was involved in not only COINTELPRO, but he was also involved with [0:51:09] Carlos Marcello down in Louisiana. [0:51:11] He was involved with the KKK in Alabama. [0:51:14] And then he was transferred here to North Idaho. [0:51:17] The person I'm talking about, of course, is former FBI senior supervisory resident agent [0:51:23] Wayne Maness. [0:51:25] How funny. [0:51:26] This guy, Wayne Maness, he was undercover in Chicago at the 1968 DNC thing that had gone [0:51:35] on. [0:51:35] There was a bunch of riots, a lot of violence. [0:51:38] Turns out he was actually going around handing out guns to people and encouraging violence at the DNC in 68. [0:51:45] Oh, sure. Why not? Yeah. Here's his mugshot. He got arrested for LSD trafficking. [0:51:50] He also worked for a Chicago left wing communist outfit called The Seed, the Chicago Seed, which is basically like a porn and drug magazine. [0:51:59] And so it's just it's very interesting to see this stuff coming out, especially because Wayne is the father of this woman named Krista Hazel. [0:52:10] OK, Krista Hazel is currently running for state representative of Legislative District 3. [0:52:17] OK, and I'm going over this. It is important, right? [0:52:21] This woman, she's out here. She voted for Biden in 2020. Now she's a registered Republican. [0:52:28] But if we pull the pages back and we go back into history a little bit, maybe a couple of FOIA requests, we come to find out that Krista Hazel, the daughter, the adopted daughter of this FBI agent that was the resident agent in charge at the time of Ruby Ridge. [0:52:46] Right. One month before Ruby Ridge happened, Krista, the FBI agent's daughter, was charged with felony theft. [0:52:55] she stole a bunch of money from like a tj maxx or something oh funny look at this uh grand theft [0:53:03] okay she was uh charged with this and within two or three weeks of getting charged all all of the [0:53:12] charges were dropped yeah of course and then immediately ruby ridge happens and everybody [0:53:18] is looking the other way they're looking into white right-wing extremism they're not looking [0:53:23] into corruption. They're not looking into the mafia, which in Idaho in 1971, there was something [0:53:29] at Farragut State Park. There was the most amount of LSD ever that was confiscated and come to find [0:53:36] out that the mafia was basically operating up here. They had a bunch of illegal gambling stuff [0:53:41] going on, the Contiki Lounge, the whole thing. And so it's basically like North Idaho is a mafia [0:53:47] state. And it was being administered by the FBI. And now this woman, Krista, the daughter [0:53:54] of this FBI agent is running for office as an anti-extremist candidate, because, you know, [0:54:01] what is extremism to these people? It's like, I don't know, normal people having an actual [0:54:05] republic. They don't want that. They want corporate interests. They want the backing [0:54:10] of all of it. So anyway, it's just one of these things. And what do all the corporate interests [0:54:13] do. They all, look what they [0:54:15] did during COVID. They all endorsed Black [0:54:17] Lives Matter, despite all the violence [0:54:19] and anti-white hatred, which [0:54:21] is bigotry. They [0:54:23] advocate the DEI woke, which is [0:54:25] the, I've been [0:54:27] at the brunt end of that, [0:54:29] the replacement of people just because [0:54:31] they're white and replace them with non-whites. [0:54:33] Wasn't there actually, when you were shopping [0:54:35] around your screenplay, [0:54:37] Codename Zorro, [0:54:38] is it true that one of the people in [0:54:41] Hollywood was trying to get you to change [0:54:43] the main character, the head of this Italian mafia family, [0:54:46] they wanted to change it to a black woman? [0:54:50] That was, well, it was kind of a joke, [0:54:53] but something that I posted up. [0:54:55] But they did say that, I don't know how many, [0:55:00] I don't want to get sued, but yeah, [0:55:01] several production offices. [0:55:02] I raised $50 million three times for this movie to be shot. [0:55:05] That's not including distribution P&A after. [0:55:09] But each time it was always about something like, okay, [0:55:12] we want to bring in a black writer. [0:55:14] You said you love the script. [0:55:17] Oliver Stone loved the script. [0:55:19] Paul Haggis loved the script. [0:55:20] Johnny Depp loved the script. [0:55:22] Jack Nicholson thought it was the best thing he ever read, [0:55:25] but he's not acting anymore. [0:55:27] And so all these people, [0:55:29] they come in and they say, [0:55:31] okay, we love it, [0:55:33] but we want a black writer. [0:55:34] Why? [0:55:34] Well, there's nothing wrong with the script. [0:55:35] We just think it'll market better [0:55:36] if a black writer is involved. [0:55:39] So, and I, [0:55:41] Look, I didn't know anything about that stuff. [0:55:44] I mean, think of the most liberal thing [0:55:46] you could write about, [0:55:47] which this story was not about Martin Luther King. [0:55:49] It was about William Sullivan's journey [0:55:51] to fight the FBI under Hoover, [0:55:54] get him replaced by him, [0:55:56] and clean it up and make it more effective [0:55:58] for fighting real criminals [0:55:59] instead of saying the mafia doesn't exist. [0:56:01] Okay, it exists, but here's our investigation. [0:56:03] Nobody's arrested outside of Apple. [0:56:06] So Sullivan is an unsung hero [0:56:10] in American history. [0:56:12] And the only mistake that he made [0:56:13] was not being more cunning than Hoover [0:56:16] to get Hoover out. [0:56:19] Ended up being that Hoover actually died. [0:56:21] Somebody killed him, [0:56:23] poisoned his toiletries at home. [0:56:25] That's a story for another time. [0:56:26] But the point is that, yeah, [0:56:29] you can't operate in any of these circles, [0:56:35] these power structures, [0:56:36] professional football, Hollywood, [0:56:39] the newspaper industry, unless you're one of them. [0:56:43] They only want to run with other people like them. [0:56:47] And so when they see an area like Northern Idaho, [0:56:50] where it has a lot of people that are like us, [0:56:53] it's a scorpion and the frog story. [0:56:55] Why do they feel the need to go [0:56:57] and try to smash out of existence [0:57:00] anything that will jeopardize their future? [0:57:04] Because they're a scorpion. [0:57:06] They will fear that if we amass power again, [0:57:10] that they presuppose that it's going to lead to, [0:57:13] well, it's projecting. [0:57:14] It's going to lead to us trying to [0:57:16] exterminate everybody. [0:57:19] Yeah. [0:57:20] And that's them projecting that. [0:57:22] That's like saying every Jew is in the mafia [0:57:25] or every Jew is part of organized Jewry. [0:57:28] That's bullshit. [0:57:29] All the guys that I talk, [0:57:30] and I still talk to you to this day, [0:57:32] I'm going to have on the next week or so, [0:57:34] a friend of the family. [0:57:35] He's like an uncle, the same as Jeff Pearl. [0:57:37] He had a barbershop down in Florida, [0:57:39] and he cut the hair of all these Italian and Jewish mobsters down there, [0:57:44] including Meyer and Jimmy. [0:57:46] And he says the same thing. [0:57:47] He's like, these Zionists are out of control. [0:57:49] They're murdering civilians in Gaza. [0:57:52] They're psychopaths, and they're making more people anti-Semitic. [0:57:55] Fuck these guys. [0:57:57] That's the typical experience I get with even Jewish white. [0:58:00] He's not a Jewish white guy, but he's been around all these guys. [0:58:03] But that's the experience that I've gotten over the years. [0:58:06] It's like, I'm the regular dude on the street [0:58:09] that just happens to be a Jew. [0:58:10] And I might run a deli. [0:58:12] I might be a carpenter. [0:58:13] I might be something like regular. [0:58:15] You don't even know about me unless I say it. [0:58:17] And then there's all these other guys [0:58:18] that are making it bad for us. [0:58:20] Isn't that the same case as Catholics? [0:58:23] Yeah. [0:58:23] These psychopathic modernist clergy [0:58:26] dressed up in a costume that looks like a Catholic, [0:58:30] but then they go out there [0:58:31] and they say stuff that's anti-Christian left and right, [0:58:34] and they make us look bad. [0:58:36] So it's like, we don't write off anybody [0:58:40] until their story is over. [0:58:42] We want everybody to change before the end of their life. [0:58:44] But when they're doing stuff like that, [0:58:46] it's the same story. [0:58:48] So we have to be able to handle [0:58:50] when other people observe this kind of stuff. [0:58:54] How do you explain that away? [0:58:55] Your Pope did this, your Pope did that. [0:58:56] It's like, let me explain something to you, boy. [0:59:00] Right? [0:59:00] That's the way I look. [0:59:01] It's a simplistic worldview, but yeah, you got to be able to not have the word concept fallacy [0:59:07] because somebody is Italian, that they're all this because somebody is, well, even in the [0:59:13] government, there's some people that are good, maybe even in the CIA that might be good, [0:59:17] that want to do good, but that doesn't change the fact that the entire institution itself [0:59:21] operates on a worldview that is meant to deconstruct us. [0:59:25] Yes. [0:59:26] That's it. [0:59:26] Yep. [0:59:27] That's it. [0:59:27] No, 100%. [0:59:28] And it's so funny, too. [0:59:29] You know, you mentioned it's just incredible. [0:59:32] There's this guy up here, Russell Mann, who was giving me a hard time for a few years, [0:59:35] you know, Jewish guy. [0:59:36] And he was just like, you know, as soon as if Riley ever gets power, the first thing [0:59:39] he's going to do is like kill everyone. [0:59:41] And then it's like here he is like supporting the genocide in Gaza. [0:59:45] And it's like, bro, what are we talking about here? [0:59:47] Like you are projecting. [0:59:49] That's what you would do if you got power. [0:59:52] That's how you would use it. [0:59:53] It's just incredible. [0:59:54] The the amount of projection from a lot of these different people now. [0:59:57] But we have to make sure that we don't take those things personally. [1:00:01] They don't take them personally, even though publicly, like this Rabbi Schmule guy, who's an extreme example. [1:00:06] He takes things personally, but that's his role is to act like a psycho. [1:00:12] That's his role. [1:00:14] And he doesn't take any, I mean, he'll call you out for being anti-Semitic for anything you say whatsoever. [1:00:19] But as soon as he doesn't get what he wants, he moves on to the next subject and moves on to the next. [1:00:23] we have to also be able to not only not shy away when we're attacked, [1:00:29] we also have to be able to say, look, man, I don't take it personally. [1:00:34] You're just playing your role. [1:00:35] We believe as Christians, we're the chosen people. [1:00:38] You believe you're the chosen people. [1:00:39] We can agree to disagree and not try to attack and kill each other. [1:00:43] That's a better policy going forward. [1:00:46] But some of these wackos, they don't want to do that. [1:00:49] So it's like, okay, Machiavelli would talk about, [1:00:52] don't react out of anger and fear. Study them for a while. Learn what you can from them because [1:00:59] you're going to end up having to use the same tactics to defeat them. We have to defeat them. [1:01:04] I was going to say, speaking of, this brings me into one of the final things that I kind of wanted [1:01:08] to go over with you, which was we're seeing in this country this very organized anti-Catholic [1:01:14] thing emerging, right? We saw Ted Cruz retweeting Insurrection Barbie a couple of weeks ago, [1:01:21] with this giant AI slop generated thing about how all Catholics are evil and they can't have [1:01:28] power, blah, blah, blah. But with this, I do think that there is a possibility. It's not a remote [1:01:34] possibility. I think it's a real possibility that we could be seeing a lot of anti-Catholicism [1:01:41] rising in this country over the next decade. For example, in Washington state, just this past year, [1:01:47] They passed a law that basically made going to confession illegal, right? [1:01:51] I mean, like if you go to confession and then the priest is called in and they don't break the seal of confession, which is an excommunicable offense, the state will throw that priest in jail, right? [1:02:03] And so this is, I think, the beginning stages of a kind of anti-Catholic persecution in this country. [1:02:11] And with that, are we supposed to sit back and believe that what, like the police are going to help us? [1:02:16] If somebody is going to attack our church, and we've been seeing these deranged, tranny, satanic leftists shooting up churches left and right, are we really under the delusion that the police are going to save us? [1:02:29] And I took this trip last month and I went into Crown Heights. [1:02:34] I went into Flatbush, went to Williamsburg, and parked outside of every synagogue is something called the Shomrim, this private police service that is run by the Jews for the Jews. [1:02:47] Is that the one that Tyler Olivera investigated? [1:02:49] Yes, yes. [1:02:50] United Hat Zola, which is their ambulance service. [1:02:54] and you know it got me thinking hey you know maybe they've got something going on with this [1:02:59] thing you know maybe maybe catholics should be making their own types of community defense [1:03:05] organizations to legally legally there's got to be a way to do it legally uh but you know i think [1:03:11] that it's going to come down uh to us looking after our own people i think that the government [1:03:16] is fundamentally not going to be looking after uh the i mean they haven't been looking after the [1:03:22] people, the interests of the American people, and I think even much less so Catholics in the future. [1:03:28] So where do you think we're going as a country, and what do you think Catholics and Christians [1:03:32] more generally should be preparing for, I guess, over the next decade? [1:03:37] Right. Yeah, there's definitely anti-Catholic sentiment because, well, first thing is first. [1:03:42] I heard somebody say something that for the first time in history, the largest Christian [1:03:50] denomination in the country is Catholicism. Actually, it's not true. Catholics have been [1:03:56] the largest segment of Christians in the U.S. since the 1850s. A lot of people don't realize [1:04:02] that. And it's been that way continually with extreme spikes in certain periods of time, [1:04:07] one of which was in the 1950s with a lot of conversions. And currently right now, [1:04:13] despite all the scandal, despite all the corrupt bishops and anti-Catholic rhetoric coming from [1:04:19] modernist clergy, young people are converting. And the discussions I've had with Grok are, [1:04:25] what's the, on the ground, meaning on social media and chats, what is the major sentiment, [1:04:32] the reason why that is? Because a lot of these kids are shocked at the idea that they're being [1:04:37] racially discriminated against by all these policies we already talked about. [1:04:41] And when you grew up in a Christian culture, even if you're not religious, you still have [1:04:46] Christian ethics. So the first response is not violent. We complain that people don't do anything, [1:04:50] but it's better that you study before acting than just going out and going apeshit and acting like [1:04:56] a goblin. And so their first course of action is to go online, post a bunch of racist memes, [1:05:05] react somewhat some way, but not violently. And then eventually when you get that out of your [1:05:11] system, you realize, I got to have some kind of restraint, a recourse to goodness, and a [1:05:17] justification for fighting for the West, for America, for the West. You know, why we fight, [1:05:22] that's the whole theme. And so they become Catholic, because they realize their parents, [1:05:28] Zionism, Christian Zionism, and this Jewish worship that is even odd to regular Jews. [1:05:34] They're just like, these people are freaking wacko. That's why they respect Catholics more, [1:05:38] because we may not agree, [1:05:40] like Jewish and Italians get along a lot, [1:05:43] but at least you're strong and you got chutzpah, [1:05:45] you got balls. [1:05:47] And that's how they look at Catholics oftentimes. [1:05:50] These radicals in the modern day [1:05:52] where it's like every Catholic is a Nazi, [1:05:54] it's a scare tactic. [1:05:58] If it's from a younger generation, [1:06:00] they're reacting from something they'd never seen, [1:06:02] which is a resurgence of traditional Catholic values. [1:06:05] And if it's the older generation, [1:06:06] then yeah, they're just trying to demonize us from rising up. [1:06:09] But there's no stopping that [1:06:11] because that's from a grassroots level. [1:06:14] And yeah, the Christian Zionists in the administration [1:06:16] are facing off with the Catholics in the administration. [1:06:20] But my sentiment is, [1:06:22] is that this is not being driven by human hands. [1:06:25] This is definitely being driven by, [1:06:27] well, obviously by God. [1:06:29] And so when he acts upon our intellect [1:06:33] and he gives us this clarity. [1:06:34] And like when I became an adult convert [1:06:36] after resisting it for 12 years [1:06:38] for my older brother and younger brother. [1:06:40] And I realized, okay, I'm going to disprove [1:06:42] this whole stupid religion you're in. [1:06:44] And I really dug in. [1:06:46] I used all the techniques I used [1:06:48] when I was a Jehovah's Witness growing up, [1:06:49] studying and go to the door [1:06:51] and start debating with Protestants and Hindus [1:06:53] and everybody else. [1:06:55] So I was like, I'm going to prove you guys wrong. [1:06:57] This is stupid. [1:06:58] I'm like, okay, this makes the most sense. [1:06:59] I'm done. [1:07:00] What are we signing up? [1:07:02] So it makes the most sense logically [1:07:04] because we're Western men. [1:07:05] It makes the most sense because it gives a unifying principle of unity, your picture of knowing of why we should be fighting against these demoniacs that are ruling over us. [1:07:18] And yeah, does that scare them? [1:07:19] Yeah. [1:07:20] Are they going to try to crack down further? [1:07:23] Maybe. [1:07:24] But I don't really care because the era of hiding what you believe, even me, I've had to be careful about what I say because I have a business. [1:07:32] I have other projects I've pursued. [1:07:36] Those days are over. [1:07:37] You can't be taken serious unless you're talking the truth. [1:07:40] And so, yeah, I think there is a real danger of anti-Catholic sentiment [1:07:46] because what do you mean by Catholic? [1:07:48] I mean, I thought I knew what Catholicism was, [1:07:50] and I'm going to disprove to my family that you guys are all retards. [1:07:54] And you come to find out it's nothing like I thought as a witness, [1:07:57] nothing like I thought as a post-witness, [1:07:59] and I'm going to do my research on what, Wikipedia? [1:08:03] So what do you mean by Catholic? [1:08:05] What? What do you mean by Christian even? And so even Jews, they have a hard time. Like some of [1:08:11] these radical rabbis I have in my pre-roll that talk about eliminating Amalek. What is Amalek, [1:08:16] they say. And it's very clear they mean by Christian Europe, white Christian Europe. [1:08:22] Now, do the normal guys in the street think like, of course they don't, guys. I mean, [1:08:27] the average, all the Jews in my life are the most generous people that I've ever met. They've helped [1:08:32] me out when I've needed. They denounce a lot of these radicals. They're just regular people [1:08:36] that never go to synagogue. Most of them are actually [1:08:40] agnostic, but they don't embrace this radical position. [1:08:44] They criticize the Rothschilds and Rockefellers probably more than we do [1:08:48] because they're the ones that get the backlash of all the anti-Semitism. [1:08:53] And so my point is that [1:08:54] it's incumbent upon guys [1:09:00] not to be religious holy rollers online. [1:09:03] I mean, that fight is over. [1:09:05] Nobody wants to do theological debates. [1:09:07] And when they do, they still, [1:09:09] they stay in their same opinion. [1:09:11] But we do have to define what we are and who we are. [1:09:16] And when they get to dominate the public space [1:09:18] in defining the Catholics are this, [1:09:20] that integralism is equal to the Holocaust, [1:09:25] that you go to the SSPX or a set of Acanis, [1:09:29] chapel that somehow you're [1:09:31] a right-wing extremist terrorist. [1:09:33] These are all lies. [1:09:35] We know that, but if the regular [1:09:37] normies on the street don't know any better [1:09:39] because we didn't do our job [1:09:42] as laymen [1:09:42] dominating the political public [1:09:45] space on [1:09:46] answering those questions. [1:09:49] Are you pagans? Do you really [1:09:51] idol worship? Do you really [1:09:54] want to hurt Jewish people [1:09:56] or whatever? [1:09:56] it's never going to change. [1:10:00] So I'm just saying that's like [1:10:02] they will use the fallacy of the word concept fallacy, [1:10:05] the word association with extremism with us. [1:10:08] But we all know that's not working anymore. [1:10:10] I mean, Nick has proved that. [1:10:12] Guys like us have proved that, [1:10:14] especially me, [1:10:15] because I'm, yeah, I'm an old guy. [1:10:16] I'm 51. [1:10:17] And I've been doing this years, [1:10:18] exposing this corruption, [1:10:19] this government, [1:10:20] this system. [1:10:22] And it's good that people are waking up more now. [1:10:26] We had to do things in my Gen X where, yeah, we did have to go to the library and interview people and take literally months, if not years, of researching a subject. [1:10:37] Now you can instantly pull it up on your phone through voice activation. [1:10:41] Right. [1:10:41] And so the groundwork has been laid. [1:10:43] And I'm very happy to see so many Zoomers. [1:10:46] I'm really proud of these guys. [1:10:48] They've really picked up the mantle instead of going back to sleep like a lot of others have. [1:10:52] they're like, you know what? Yeah, I'm not going to contribute to a system that wants me fucking [1:10:56] dead. And that's it. Fuck you. Fuck you. [1:11:01] It's also, I was just going to say, it's one of those things, [1:11:04] one of the reasons why I converted as well was I tried to disprove Catholicism. [1:11:09] Right. And I feel like it's one of the fastest ways to get someone to [1:11:12] convert is be like, all right, cool, go disprove it. See you in six months. [1:11:17] I've heard so many stories of people [1:11:20] that that happens to. It's just incredible. But yeah, man, I think we've got to fight ahead of us. [1:11:27] And we're going to have to start looking after our own people. We're going to have to start [1:11:30] understanding how power works, how to exert power on the political system from the outside. [1:11:37] And God bless all the people that are doing the infiltration thing too. I mean, [1:11:42] something like 40% of staffers in Washington, D.C. are rumored to be groipers at this point, [1:11:48] which is interesting. [1:11:49] So God bless them in their work. [1:11:53] I do want to say something real quick [1:11:54] regarding what you just said there [1:11:55] on the influence thing. [1:11:59] So one of the, [1:12:01] well, the actual guy on the cover of my book, [1:12:04] Nick Bainan. [1:12:05] Let's see if it's in focus. [1:12:07] Nick Bainan, okay. [1:12:08] Nick Bainan was a Las Vegas cowboy gangster. [1:12:13] Love my writing. [1:12:14] We always had these great conversations. [1:12:15] He's passed away in the middle of COVID, [1:12:17] but we got really close at one time. [1:12:19] He wanted me to film his life story. [1:12:22] He worked for, he married Becky Binion [1:12:25] and she was the daughter of Benny Binion, [1:12:28] Binion's Horseshoe Casino. [1:12:30] And before he married her, [1:12:33] he worked running casinos for Meyer Lansky and Jimmy Alo, [1:12:37] even in Czechoslovakia, or I should say Yugoslavia, [1:12:42] when they were communists still. [1:12:44] So he would go behind the Iron Curtain [1:12:46] and run casinos and gambling halls, [1:12:50] bring in girls, bring in all kinds of stuff [1:12:52] for these high party officials, right? [1:12:54] So he did the same thing in different parts of the world [1:12:56] for Meyer and Jimmy. [1:12:58] Point is, is that when he settled in Vegas [1:13:01] and spent many years there, [1:13:02] he got a reputation for hanging people off of a roof [1:13:05] for doing certain things. [1:13:06] And he was the real deal. [1:13:08] I mean, he was Greek Catholic, ironically. [1:13:11] So my point is, when I met him, [1:13:14] he had a driver and [1:13:16] I'm not going to say [1:13:18] what his name is, he's still alive, but he was a [1:13:20] Mexican dude, very [1:13:22] loyal to Nick, and my point is this [1:13:24] I asked him, how did you come [1:13:26] to work for Nick? [1:13:28] Nicky, we called him [1:13:30] and this guy used to be [1:13:32] with the cartels [1:13:34] and how [1:13:36] Nicky found him was that he was running [1:13:38] numbers in different [1:13:40] border states [1:13:41] and of course he ran numbers his own numbers racket in um in las vegas really he had his own [1:13:49] route until the day he died to be honest and uh how did you get the drugs across you know how'd [1:13:55] you get people across and whatever across he's all oh easy i just paid off border patrol local [1:14:00] police and sheriff it was super easy nobody had to be threatened nobody had to be forced it was [1:14:06] super easy and so this guy's explaining exactly how not just on the border but along the along [1:14:11] the way along the route um how many of these guys are easily paid off right so my point is is that [1:14:19] hardly anybody has to resort to other tactics the four laws of mafia power talk about [1:14:26] how that applies to us is that um it's so important for us to have a political advocacy [1:14:33] organization in which we contribute to in a non-profit way to also influence how we are [1:14:39] also protected. That is a lesson. You may not like it, guys, but the fact is that when the world [1:14:47] operates in a way that you can go to jail for words online and yet a murderer from a third [1:14:54] world goblin country can do horrible things to kids and be out because he didn't know any better, [1:14:59] the only difference is that somebody got paid off. That's what Jimmy would always say. [1:15:04] How did you operate for so long? You can't operate anything anywhere without somebody [1:15:08] getting paid off. If somebody's operating, somebody's getting paid off. Yeah. Okay. So if [1:15:13] you're a rich guy that has a really high profile attorney, somebody is getting paid off. The [1:15:19] attorney is getting paid by you. His influence on the judge and anybody else involved in the case [1:15:25] is an influence peddling operation as well. So collective power is something shunned by people [1:15:32] in the U S because they've been brainwashed into thinking collectivism of any sort is Marxism. [1:15:36] and it's not, it's power. [1:15:39] Right. [1:15:40] So we have to think that way too. [1:15:42] Yeah. [1:15:43] That's, yeah. [1:15:43] No, and there's strength. [1:15:45] There is strength in unity. [1:15:46] There is strength together, you know, [1:15:48] and it's, when you really study all this stuff [1:15:51] between COINTELPRO and all of these different, [1:15:53] you know, MKUltra, Operation Mockingbird, [1:15:55] you realize that the CIA weaponized this idea [1:15:58] of like rugged individualism [1:16:00] because it is much easier for the government [1:16:02] or for corporations to steamroll, you know, [1:16:05] one individual person at a time, [1:16:07] much more difficult to steamroll a collective [1:16:11] and an entire group of people [1:16:13] that are all standing up in solidarity with one another. [1:16:16] It really does, it makes it difficult. [1:16:19] But thank you so much for coming on. [1:16:22] Justin, you can, people can find you [1:16:24] over on X at Justin Stam. [1:16:28] You've got a link tree over there [1:16:30] with links to all of your different outlets, [1:16:33] your shop, your Bitcoin donations. [1:16:35] You've also got a Rumbled channel. [1:16:38] Just started it, yeah. [1:16:39] It's very new. [1:16:39] It's a baby, but... [1:16:40] Yeah, rumble.com slash Justin Stamm. [1:16:44] You've been podcasting for years. [1:16:46] You've got a lot of content out there. [1:16:48] Of course, you've got your sub stack, [1:16:50] the official sub stack of Justin Stamm. [1:16:52] That is justinstamm.substack.com [1:16:55] and his book, [1:16:57] The Paola Chronicles, [1:16:58] How the Mafia and the CIA Created Rock and Roll. [1:17:02] So thank you again for joining us today. [1:17:06] Absolutely. [1:17:07] I just want to show you my most recent shirt I just had delivered. [1:17:13] Nice. [1:17:14] Nice. [1:17:15] If anybody knows the background of the Spandau Ballet, [1:17:19] this is a play on the words of Spandau Ballet. [1:17:24] Well, thank you so much for joining us today, Justin. [1:17:26] God bless, and we'll talk again soon. [1:17:29] We'll talk soon. [1:17:30] Thanks, bro. [1:17:32] Right on. [1:17:33] Boom. [1:17:34] Oh, yeah. [1:17:34] They'll have to do a lot of...