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[0:03:56] So thank you again for joining us.
[0:03:58] All right.
[0:03:58] Now I will unmute, but you haven't been introduced yet.
[0:04:02] No.
[0:04:02] So shh.
[0:04:03] You're not here.
[0:04:05] So anyway, we're doing a very casual live stream today, you know.
[0:04:09] But on this program over the past couple of weeks, we've been talking with a couple of different people
[0:04:14] One of them notably Justin Stamm, we did a show with him last week or two weeks ago, I can't quite remember
[0:04:19] And Justin was, you know, aware of this whole payola thing
[0:04:25] He got in with a guy named Jimmy Allo, who was like a made man, he was a mafia guy
[0:04:29] And he had a lot to do with manipulating radio, with manipulating music and movies
[0:04:37] and we talked about how much of that industry is fake and gay with Justin.
[0:04:43] We're going to get a little bit deeper into that with our guest tonight,
[0:04:47] a veteran radio broadcaster in the industry over 50 years as a DJ, as a program director,
[0:04:55] and then eventually ownership. He owned his own batch of radio stations.
[0:05:01] Our guest, of course, is none other than Bobby Hatfield.
[0:05:06] Hello!
[0:05:08] Yes, it is I, the Bobber, right here on the radio.
[0:05:12] And media is so fake and gay that Bobby Hatfield isn't even your name.
[0:05:16] You're actually...
[0:05:17] Yeah, you know, I...
[0:05:19] Well, we all know what my real name is, don't we?
[0:05:21] Have you revealed my real name?
[0:05:22] I don't think I have. Not yet.
[0:05:24] Well, the thing is, I didn't use my real name because somebody at the radio station
[0:05:30] had the same name as I, my first name.
[0:05:34] I mean, he says, well, you've got to change your whole name.
[0:05:37] And so a friend of mine, Kevin Fennessy, may he rest in peace, said, hey, here's a cool name.
[0:05:44] You know, the program director of WFIL would always name his disc jockeys using star names.
[0:05:50] Joel Denver, as in John Denver, that sort of thing.
[0:05:53] He says, you should be Bobby Hatfield.
[0:05:55] He's half of the Righteous Brothers.
[0:05:57] I said, sure, whatever.
[0:05:59] I was just happy as a clam to, you know, be working in radio.
[0:06:02] So that's when the fake and gay started for me.
[0:06:06] Well, actually the fake, not the gay part.
[0:06:10] And that was, Lord knows when, that was 1973.
[0:06:14] That would be 1973, 1974.
[0:06:17] Interesting.
[0:06:17] Back in the early days of the old days, the dark ages of media,
[0:06:22] when radio ruled and television ruled.
[0:06:27] So, yeah.
[0:06:27] So I went from town to town, up and down the dial.
[0:06:32] In 2001, I decided, why should I continue to make money for these mega companies, which
[0:06:39] is what they turned into?
[0:06:41] And I thought, well, I'm going to try to do it on my own.
[0:06:43] And I did.
[0:06:44] We did.
[0:06:45] My wife was a part of it.
[0:06:48] And we built a nice cluster of radio stations in Northeast Pennsylvania, AM and FM, and
[0:06:54] up and down the dial there as well.
[0:06:57] So it's been a long and winding road.
[0:07:01] Beatles, 1969, Apple Records.
[0:07:06] Now, I was going to say, there is something a little bit deeper, though, too, with the fake names, isn't there?
[0:07:11] I mean, Bob Dylan, that's not his real name.
[0:07:15] Well, there is a lot of that in radio.
[0:07:19] Sure.
[0:07:20] And, of course, there's a lot of that in Hollywood.
[0:07:22] Yeah.
[0:07:23] So it was, you know, it was common practice, really.
[0:07:27] Most of the jocks that I worked with, disc jockeys over the years, most of them had fake names.
[0:07:35] A real close friend of mine is Dave Ariskovich.
[0:07:38] Dave Ariskovich is Dave Allen of Cincinnati fame, radio and whatnot.
[0:07:44] But there's a lot of those out there.
[0:07:46] Yeah, I wasn't sure if it was like a concerted effort to hide the identity of Jewish producers, perhaps, or Jewish disc jockeys.
[0:07:55] Jewish actors, definitely
[0:07:58] I don't know if I agree with that
[0:08:00] because most of the names
[0:08:02] Jewish names are kind of difficult
[0:08:05] you want something simple
[0:08:07] and easy to remember
[0:08:08] and Lord knows
[0:08:11] I've worked with a lot of Jews in the media
[0:08:12] over the years
[0:08:13] and we're going to get into that a little bit
[0:08:15] but yeah
[0:08:17] it has ramifications
[0:08:21] I bet there's a bunch of people watching
[0:08:23] that are like
[0:08:24] Why is he so obsessed with payola?
[0:08:26] You know, because this is like the second show that we've done about it.
[0:08:28] It's certainly not the first time that I've mentioned the idea of payola on the show.
[0:08:33] But we had a friend of the show, Basil, who came on to talk about media markets.
[0:08:39] And a lot of the same kind of practices that were going on with payola appear to be happening now with social media.
[0:08:46] And you see this in, for example, the BAPSphere, right?
[0:08:50] Bronze Age pervert, I've told you about him.
[0:08:52] Uh, and you know, this is a group of people that are covertly funded by Peter Thiel and the ruling
[0:08:59] elite, uh, through these different book publishing companies like, uh, Passage Press. And then you've
[0:09:05] got Sovereign House, uh, other groups like Dime Square that, you know, all of this money kind of
[0:09:11] filters through the Hallow app, this Catholic prayer app or whatever, uh, received a lot of
[0:09:16] funding from Peter Thiel. And, you know, certainly I haven't watched Fox News in several years now,
[0:09:24] but I do remember watching Fox and then all of a sudden there would be this commercial, you know,
[0:09:29] like help a Jewish family, buy this box of goods from Israel. And then they show this picture of
[0:09:36] like a sad lady crying and, you know, but it's really all payola, isn't it? Well, it's all payola
[0:09:43] in every which way.
[0:09:45] I mean, you know, it's institutional payola,
[0:09:48] and that's whereby you have sponsors
[0:09:50] that will sponsor your shows.
[0:09:52] Of course, none of the sponsors on this show
[0:09:53] are telling us what to say at all.
[0:09:55] No, that's correct.
[0:09:56] Disavow.
[0:09:58] But there is a whole sphere of influence,
[0:10:01] and the real word is influence and influencers
[0:10:07] and the people behind the scenes
[0:10:10] that want to control narrative.
[0:10:11] but the you know this is common play now with the social media and whatnot but i can remember
[0:10:19] growing up in radio back in the 70s um there was a thing there was there's a billboard magazine if
[0:10:27] you've ever heard of billboard billboard magazine they always had the hot 100 and there was the
[0:10:32] bobby poe report and there was cash box and there was the cal rudman friday morning report and they
[0:10:39] would they would these these reports were all based on music airplay and of
[0:10:46] course most of the sponsors in these magazine
[0:11:00] has been going on back in the days of payola back in the late 50s with Alan
[0:11:06] Freed and Dick Clark, who went unscathed, never got nailed because he did payola in a very
[0:11:14] different way. He was a consultant. He would consult with record companies and get paid,
[0:11:20] and he would consult with groups and get paid. Of course, he had American Bandstand,
[0:11:25] which was very influential. Alan Freed got nailed in New York, but payola back in those days was a
[0:11:34] very common practice. Record company guy would come in, here's a song by Frankie Lyman and the
[0:11:41] teenagers. Here's, you know, $500. The program director or the lead person would take the money
[0:11:50] and distribute it to the disc jockeys. And then they would play the record. That is traditional
[0:11:57] payola. And of course, they brought an end to that. But then it became institutionalized
[0:12:02] through the tip sheets, through the magazines, and through all these lists.
[0:12:07] And why are these lists so important?
[0:12:09] These lists are important because the record companies want to get their records played in major markets.
[0:12:16] New York, Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia.
[0:12:20] That's where they sell most of their product.
[0:12:23] But to get a record on those radio stations, you have to build up a track record.
[0:12:28] So they would go to the smaller stations, get airplay for a record,
[0:12:32] Then they would go to the medium stations and they would demonstrate that, hey, this record's a hit in Knoxville, Tennessee.
[0:12:40] You should give it a spin.
[0:12:42] And then it goes up the list of major markets.
[0:12:46] And that's how records become, quote unquote, hits by airplay.
[0:12:52] But are they really hits?
[0:12:53] That's the question.
[0:12:55] Right.
[0:12:55] All right.
[0:12:56] Well, this is, and this, for those of you who have autistically checked the show notes, we put a little write-up in the show notes about this, but there used to be something called the Billboard Top 40.
[0:13:07] Yeah.
[0:13:07] Right? And that was the Top 40 list of the Top 40 most popular songs. Where did that come from? What was the genesis of the Top 40?
[0:13:15] The genesis of Top 40 started with stores broadcasting, S-T-O-R-Z, out of Omaha, Nebraska.
[0:13:22] A young gentleman and his father bought radio stations in major markets across the country.
[0:13:28] Back in those days, you only could own a maximum.
[0:13:45] ... same records over and over and over again.
[0:13:51] So they would sit there and they would, you know, make up a checklist.
[0:13:55] And they would make up a list of songs and then play them on the radio.
[0:13:59] Wow, there's a head.
[0:14:01] But it was a way to research the music that was played from actual users of the product
[0:14:11] in bars, dancing and whatnot.
[0:14:13] and then they played it on the radio. Of course, that was the beginning of it, and then came
[0:14:19] magazines and tip sheets that would say, hey, by the way, this bar over here is playing this song
[0:14:27] a lot. You should have that song loaded in, and of course, all the jukeboxes were loaded with
[0:14:31] records that were hits because the record companies wanted nickels to be dropped,
[0:14:36] quarters, or dollar bills now, I guess, in jukeboxes. So that matures through the 50s
[0:14:43] into the 60s, it becomes, in the 50s, you find payola.
[0:14:50] They squashed that in 1960.
[0:14:52] Then all of a sudden, the influence had to come from somewhere else.
[0:14:58] It couldn't come from the disc jockey.
[0:14:59] So they got to the program.
[0:15:13] If they don't follow protocol, and protocol was, if there is a product on your radio station,
[0:15:24] you have to identify it.
[0:15:27] Now, if Alan Freed on 1010 Winds in New York, or WABC, or whatever station he was at, if
[0:15:35] he would identify that, hey, here's Frankie Lyman and the teenagers on G Records, they
[0:15:41] paid me $100 for you to hear this song, that would have been legal, basically. But it wasn't
[0:15:48] legal because it was all secretly done behind the scenes.
[0:16:11] How about that?
[0:16:24] Well, you know, most of the record companies were Jewish.
[0:16:28] Oh, that's anti-Semitic.
[0:16:29] You can't say that.
[0:16:30] I mean, you know, chess records, for example.
[0:16:33] Okay.
[0:16:33] You know, that was, Jews ran media back in the day.
[0:16:39] Still do.
[0:16:41] reality check? Have you seen the Paramount Plus deal?
[0:16:44] You know, it was kind of a dirty business. I mean, media typically is a dirty business.
[0:16:53] And Jews were locked out of many fields because they were Jewish. And so, you know, they got into
[0:17:00] these, you know, entertainment and vaudeville and strip shows and yada yada. And it goes on.
[0:17:07] I don't think there's any conspiracy there that Jews run the record industry.
[0:17:14] It's true.
[0:17:15] I work for so many Jews in radio.
[0:17:18] Yeah.
[0:17:19] Name some names.
[0:17:20] Harvey Deutsch.
[0:17:21] He owned the Detroit station.
[0:17:24] His general manager, the sweetheart of a woman, but a tough cookie, though.
[0:17:30] Lorraine Golden.
[0:17:31] You know, Lorraine Golden and other people.
[0:17:35] who was that creep that fired me?
[0:17:38] Kevin Matheny?
[0:17:39] Yes, from...
[0:17:40] Pig vomit?
[0:17:41] No, not pig.
[0:17:42] Pig vomit replaced me in Cleveland when I left Cleveland.
[0:17:45] Jim Meltzer.
[0:17:46] Jim Meltzer.
[0:17:46] Jim Meltzer!
[0:17:48] You know.
[0:17:49] But yeah, so there are a lot of Jews, and that's fine.
[0:17:53] What's wrong with that?
[0:17:54] There's nothing wrong with that.
[0:17:55] Hey, I mean, like, listen, they were banned from doing any kind of, like, farming or hard labor.
[0:18:00] Right.
[0:18:00] Right?
[0:18:01] Right.
[0:18:01] No?
[0:18:02] No.
[0:18:05] No, of course not.
[0:18:06] But it's funny.
[0:18:07] So enters the 60s and research.
[0:18:12] How did they do research?
[0:18:13] After pay all of it, they had to figure out a way to get their songs played.
[0:18:17] Research by the number of sales of a record at record shops all across America were compiled.
[0:18:24] They came up with lists.
[0:18:26] And most radio stations would follow the top 10, top 15, top 20.
[0:18:31] They'd keep their eyes on music going up the chart.
[0:18:34] So that would be basically the 60s.
[0:18:38] But then research got a little bit more involved,
[0:18:43] and using record sales wasn't enough, all right?
[0:18:53] Because you had records that were novelty records that would sell millions of copies,
[0:18:58] but who's going to sit on the radio and actually listen to My Dingaling by Chuck Berry?
[0:19:04] sold a million copies, but really you only need to hear it once or twice and it's done. So you had
[0:19:10] to use a method that was a little bit more involved and touch the listener a little bit
[0:19:17] better. And we came up with a thing, I say we, I didn't, but people that I worked with
[0:19:22] came up with a thing called Music Call-Out Research. And this is where it gets interesting
[0:19:29] because back in the 70s, we would call up people, hundreds of people, and we would play down the
[0:19:38] telephone snippets of songs. And they would vote on the songs on a scale of one to five. And then
[0:19:45] we would compile all that information on a daily basis and come up with our playlist. Now, here's
[0:19:50] where it gets interesting. Many times, the music that the people liked either was not on the lists
[0:19:58] of these major magazines,
[0:20:01] or songs that were on the list, they hated.
[0:20:06] All right?
[0:20:07] So now, this becomes very interesting
[0:20:10] because this is where you really see fake.
[0:20:15] Fake music, fake playlists, fake groups.
[0:20:20] How fake was it?
[0:20:21] Vanilla fudge?
[0:20:22] Well, no.
[0:20:23] No, how fake was it?
[0:20:25] If you've ever seen the movie The Wrecking Crew,
[0:20:28] The Wrecking Crew is a group of musicians that actually played the music that a lot of these groups supposedly played these instruments.
[0:20:40] I mean, and they did it. It's called The Wrecking Crew.
[0:20:43] If you've not seen that movie.
[0:20:45] We were having issues with the audio. Let's make sure that the audio is still coming through.
[0:20:50] Give me a thumbs up in the chat. I believe that audio should still be coming through now.
[0:20:55] My bad. My apologies, everybody.
[0:20:57] But yeah, here's the Wrecking Crew.
[0:20:59] The Wrecking Crew was a group of musicians in Hollywood.
[0:21:04] And these musicians played almost all of the music on hit records.
[0:21:13] I mean, we're talking not just secondary groups.
[0:21:17] We're talking about the Beach Boys.
[0:21:19] Sure.
[0:21:20] I mean, the Beach Boys, the Monkees, Bob Dylan, the Birds, the Carpenters, Frank Sinatra,
[0:21:25] the mamas and the papas.
[0:21:27] Yeah.
[0:21:28] All of them.
[0:21:29] Unbelievable.
[0:21:30] All of them.
[0:21:30] It is unbelievable.
[0:21:32] So, all right.
[0:21:32] So there's a little piece that you can gnaw on
[0:21:37] that the actual music is fake.
[0:21:41] That these, there are times that songs were written
[0:21:46] and became hits and they had to put a group together
[0:21:50] to take them out, just lip sync them,
[0:21:54] you know, coast to coast.
[0:21:55] I mean, that's how fake it was.
[0:21:59] So we find out that a lot of the music where you saw advertisements, a lot of the music that were on the lists, they were not hits.
[0:22:11] They were fake and gay.
[0:22:15] And so we started this what was called call-out research.
[0:22:20] This is something that you developed, right?
[0:22:21] No, no, I didn't develop it.
[0:22:23] But you perfected it.
[0:22:24] Well, yeah, we did.
[0:22:26] Yeah, I was part of the perfecter.
[0:22:28] Yeah, absolutely.
[0:22:30] A guy by the name of Tom Birch, I think, is one of the leading guys in this.
[0:22:34] Not associated at all with the John Birch Society.
[0:22:36] No.
[0:22:37] Tom Birch, a fellow broadcaster, became a researcher.
[0:22:41] He owned the Birch Report Research and owned a bunch of radio stations.
[0:22:46] Really smart guy.
[0:22:47] So we started call-out research in 67, I'm sorry, 76, 77, 78, and it becomes very clear that the stuff that is being crammed down your throat by broadcasters who are on the take.
[0:23:07] How are they on the take?
[0:23:08] Well, remember all those commercials you would hear for different groups and different songs, and you can get it at Best Buy or Sears Record Department?
[0:23:18] Band is coming to town, buy tickets for their concert, yada yada.
[0:23:22] Yeah, everybody is kind of on the take, so to speak.
[0:23:26] Now, a radio station which would be low in the ratings, like for example, when I took over Detroit.
[0:23:34] WDTX?
[0:23:35] WDTX, yeah.
[0:23:36] they were adding, it was called an ad. The record companies would want to get the program director
[0:23:44] to add the record to their playlist so they could sell records in that particular market.
[0:23:50] They were adding up to 10 songs a week. Now think about that. 10 songs a week. You have to be
[0:23:57] digging awfully deep. I come in and it's like, oh, by the way, we're adding one song this week.
[0:24:03] they flipped out. I mean, the record companies flipped out. The local independent record
[0:24:14] promoter, Barry Ginsberg, may he rest in peace. Boy, did he hate my guts. Oh, Lordy, he hated my
[0:24:20] guts because they obviously couldn't get to me and I was not on the take. And so why did I get
[0:24:26] hired in Detroit, Michigan back in 1988? It's very simple. They were desperate. I always got
[0:24:35] the jobs where the ownership was desperate. We have to turn this thing around. Otherwise,
[0:24:42] if the station were successful, like the other two top 40 stations in town,
[0:24:47] money was flowing, some schmo from a market that's in the loop would have gotten that job.
[0:24:54] So they're desperate.
[0:24:56] Right.
[0:24:56] And so I was able to do things for the desperate ownership that wanted it turned around.
[0:25:00] We went from 300,000 listeners a week to 600,000 listeners doubled.
[0:25:10] And, you know, you're talking about 300,000 people listening to the radio station.
[0:25:15] That's a lot of people.
[0:25:16] Right.
[0:25:16] You see what I'm saying?
[0:25:17] Yeah.
[0:25:17] And we all did it by ignoring the record companies, ignoring the national playlists,
[0:25:25] and going right to our listeners, and we would put them through a battery of questions to make sure
[0:25:30] that they really fit the model, the sound that we wanted, and the model for the radio station's
[0:25:37] music. And we would play them songs, 30 to 40 songs a week. They would vote on them. We had
[0:25:44] hundreds of people we would go to and keep a card file on them
[0:25:50] and when they were called and that sort of thing.
[0:25:51] Well, this was kind of also new with the advent of Touchtone Telephones, right?
[0:25:56] Oh, yeah, Touchtone.
[0:25:56] They would rate.
[0:25:58] You'd play a 15-second clip of the song,
[0:26:01] and then they would rate it one through nine whether they liked it or not.
[0:26:06] Yeah, we never did that.
[0:26:07] Oh, okay.
[0:26:07] We kept in verbal communication with them throughout the whole process.
[0:26:11] Got it.
[0:26:12] And so the radio station doubled from 300,000 in Cume to 600,000 in Cume.
[0:26:19] A year later, it was sold.
[0:26:21] The station was sold.
[0:26:22] The owners knew that they had to get out, and it's a shame.
[0:26:26] And, of course, when the new people came in, Fred Jacobs' brother, what was his name?
[0:26:32] Jacobs.
[0:26:32] I forget.
[0:26:33] He works with his brother now.
[0:26:35] Fred's from Detroit.
[0:26:38] I forget his name.
[0:26:39] He was a general manager, and he lied to me and said I had a job, and three weeks later I was fired.
[0:26:45] But the reason why I was fired was very simple.
[0:26:49] They were going to rely on the record companies to basically give them money, basically, is what it came down to.
[0:26:58] So what got us to the party with the increase in cumulative audience was now totally dispersed,
[0:27:06] and the station became this teen station.
[0:27:10] Now, just a side story.
[0:27:12] I hired a guy from Dayton, Andy Savage, to do the night show.
[0:27:18] We had him on the radio and he came to me and he says,
[0:27:23] Bobby, look, should I leave now?
[0:27:26] Should I get the hell out of this place?
[0:27:27] The new owners are coming in.
[0:27:29] You know how that goes.
[0:27:30] I said, no, just be cool.
[0:27:32] Be cool.
[0:27:33] Because I already know where they're going with the radio station.
[0:27:36] and they're going to shoot for teens. Now, here's what I want you to do. When you're walking the
[0:27:42] hallways, and you pass the sales department, if they say, we can't sell the station because there's
[0:27:50] too many teens, get the hell out. He's walking, it's nine months later, he's walking the hallways,
[0:27:58] and he stops, and he's hearing an argument with the sales manager, and a salesperson says,
[0:28:04] He says, I can't sell this station.
[0:28:05] We've got too many teens.
[0:28:07] He calls me up on the phone.
[0:28:08] Andy Savage.
[0:28:09] He says, I got to get out of here.
[0:28:11] Can I use your reference?
[0:28:12] I said, sure.
[0:28:13] Get out.
[0:28:14] Now's the time.
[0:28:15] And the whole house of cards fell in, of course, as we knew.
[0:28:19] All right.
[0:28:19] So let's fast forward here to the advent of social media, politics, fake and gay,
[0:28:31] and all that stuff that you hear today, and I'm thinking to myself,
[0:28:37] self, this has been going on a long, long time.
[0:28:42] Because the same things that were going on in the 60s and 70s in radio,
[0:28:47] 80s and 90s in radio, well, it was all fake.
[0:28:52] From the music being fake, from the wrecking crew to the fake charts
[0:28:58] and to the fake playlists that local radio stations were putting together.
[0:29:04] All right?
[0:29:05] Now, I get fed up with Top 40 Radio,
[0:29:09] and I want something different and something new,
[0:29:12] and so I got into news talk.
[0:29:15] Well, guess what I found out?
[0:29:18] It's all fake and gay there, too.
[0:29:21] I can remember calling in the news director,
[0:29:23] and I said to him, how come is it that our lead story,
[0:29:28] on this radio station is always the lead story in the newspaper. How could that be? With all the
[0:29:35] stories going on in Columbus, Ohio, how could it be that it's the same? Well, then I started watching
[0:29:42] the local news stations. I started making lists, playlists, and looking at what they were doing.
[0:29:49] I thought, well, this is amazing. In this big city of Columbus, Ohio, which is now a mighty big city,
[0:29:55] how come is it that the top three stories are all the same oh but wait there's more
[0:30:00] how come is it when the network news comes on it's the same three stories for the network news
[0:30:07] I mean all of this stuff that's going on in the world today and it comes down to these stories
[0:30:13] these three stories right you know with team coverage so I'm putting all of this together
[0:30:21] social media is coming out. I'm now getting into ownership, buying stations. And here's what,
[0:30:30] in 1988, 1989, I was offered this job for an AM station in Columbus, Ohio.
[0:30:39] And I had my friends call me up, you're going to work for AM? Remember there was a-
[0:30:45] AM was dead at this point, right?
[0:30:46] Yeah, AM's dead. It's over with.
[0:30:49] Right.
[0:30:49] Well, no, that's not true because that's another fake story.
[0:30:55] You see, that story in and of itself that AM is dead, totally fake.
[0:31:02] Why?
[0:31:03] Well, because we proved it.
[0:31:04] WTVN in Columbus, Ohio went to number one.
[0:31:08] All right?
[0:31:09] And when I got there, they weren't even top five in the older demographics.
[0:31:15] And they were in the news station, the weather station, the traffic station, the sports station, and they played music too.
[0:31:22] So we certainly turned that around.
[0:31:25] So the fake story that AM is dead, I knew was wrong.
[0:31:34] So the deregulation by the FCC in 1996 that allowed companies to come in and buy hundreds of radio stations.
[0:31:46] Well, let's set this up a little bit, right?
[0:31:47] So you said a while ago, right, that one company was allowed to own seven radio stations, right?
[0:31:53] And that was nationwide, correct?
[0:31:54] Yeah, 7 a.m., 7 f.m., and seven TVs.
[0:32:00] Right.
[0:32:01] Back in the day.
[0:32:02] Nationwide.
[0:32:02] Right. So let's say that your NBC News Corporation, right, you get one in New York, one in Cleveland, one in L.A., one in Seattle, one in, you know, Florida, wherever.
[0:32:13] The major markets.
[0:32:14] Right. The major markets. Yeah.
[0:32:16] And then Bill Clinton deregulation hits.
[0:32:20] Yes.
[0:32:21] And that rule capping how many radio stations could be owned is obliterated.
[0:32:26] Yes.
[0:32:26] And now a corporation can own multiple radio stations in one market.
[0:32:32] multiple stations, hundreds of stations coast to coast, and even in television.
[0:32:38] In Northeast PA, in Wilkes-Barre, the same television show is on two different television stations,
[0:32:47] Channel 22 and 28.
[0:32:48] They don't even have a separate editorial staff.
[0:32:52] I mean, really?
[0:32:54] You can't have a third television station, television news station?
[0:33:00] That's ridiculous.
[0:33:01] But at any rate, that is all brought on by the deregulation of both radio and television.
[0:33:07] This is 1996.
[0:33:09] Well, the prices of radio stations skyrocketed, and I said to myself, my dream of owning a station is now officially over.
[0:33:18] I'll never own a station because I want to go into business with zero debt.
[0:33:23] I don't want to have a bank behind me.
[0:33:25] And I knew innately that that was not good.
[0:33:29] But what happened? Well, these stations that they were clustering up, buying hundreds,
[0:33:36] there were stations they didn't want. And it was those stations that gave an opportunity for myself,
[0:33:44] for a friend of mine in Maine at Brunswick, he got a station, Jim Blykamp, Dave Radigan,
[0:33:51] my friend in New York, he got a station. And what it was, was the stations they couldn't,
[0:33:56] they didn't want. So nobody wanted this station in Bloomsburg, Pennsylvania.
[0:34:02] I went in and bought it for $45,000. Didn't even have a tower. All right. And we built it up. Now,
[0:34:09] you might say to yourself, yeah, but guess what all of the people were saying in Bloomsburg?
[0:34:14] AM's dead. AM's dead. This is unbelievable how people can be so indoctrinated with lies.
[0:34:24] All right? So I'm building a story here that starts from fake music, fake playlists,
[0:34:33] people screaming and yelling when the Beatles come to town because they were paid to scream and yell.
[0:34:39] Now we come up with whys like AM is dead, and we're coming into the age of social media
[0:34:46] and news stories and politics and who do you believe? And now, of course, with AI, it's even
[0:34:52] crazier, right? So my point is that fake and gay has been around a long, long time. It's been there,
[0:35:01] but now we know that it's there. And now we know the depths of fake and gay in the media. It's
[0:35:09] ridiculous. I mean, you see what's going on now. You thought, you know, you see these boomers and
[0:35:13] God bless them. I'm a boomer myself. Okay. I am a proud boomer. Boomer should be given some credit
[0:35:20] because back in the day, you talk about indoctrination.
[0:35:26] My God, we had Walter Cronkite.
[0:35:30] That's it.
[0:35:31] Sure.
[0:35:31] And even the President of the United States said,
[0:35:33] if I lose Walter Cronkite with the Vietnam War, with his support, we're done.
[0:35:38] And he was right.
[0:35:40] And, of course, you know, the Vietnam War came and went.
[0:35:46] There was also just like this stuff that happens.
[0:35:48] And I've, you know, a lot of my friends are boomers, actually, you know, I don't know.
[0:35:53] I get along with them better.
[0:35:55] I understand boomer mentality.
[0:35:57] But it's like, you know, it starts off with these duck and cover drills.
[0:36:03] You know what I mean?
[0:36:04] The Russians are going to bomb us quick.
[0:36:06] You know, we're doing a duck and cover drill.
[0:36:09] You know, and then you come back and, you know, after you've had your adrenaline rush
[0:36:13] and your cortisol levels are through the roof, then it's like, okay, kids, now we're going
[0:36:17] to learn about World War II.
[0:36:18] You know what I mean? And you start pounding it into their heads.
[0:36:22] Now, just a side story. In 1958, I was in first grade.
[0:36:29] And we actually had drills where when the alarm went off, we would all get underneath our desk.
[0:36:38] And I forget what they called it, a drill. I don't know.
[0:36:41] Ducking cover. I don't know. Like it was the atomic.
[0:36:44] Yeah, like we're going to get under, you know, like, you know, this is going to save us, you know what I mean?
[0:36:50] Quick, get under the desk so you don't get vaporized by the nuke.
[0:36:54] Okay.
[0:36:54] But, I mean, you look at film, Hollywood, television, late 40s into the 50s, the advent of television news, and the textbooks.
[0:37:06] books, I mean, boomers have been indoctrinated every which way they can be indoctrinated. So
[0:37:15] you should be a little bit kinder to them. But here's the problem. Here's the problem.
[0:37:22] Most boomers to try to, well, for example, talk to a boomer about Fox News. They'll flip out on
[0:37:29] you. I have two friends. It's like if Fox News says it, it's truth. And it's like, dude,
[0:37:36] You need to open your mind.
[0:37:38] You have to have a, you don't have to, don't have a closed mind with this thing.
[0:37:42] Have an open mind.
[0:37:43] And boomers are very closed minded.
[0:37:46] Talking to a boomer about what's going on in the world today and Donald Trump is like
[0:37:53] talking to a Protestant about Catholicism.
[0:37:57] It's kind of like talking to a conservative, talking to a liberal.
[0:38:02] the mind is so closed
[0:38:05] as soon as
[0:38:07] people gravitate and
[0:38:08] latch on to something and of course the powers that be
[0:38:11] know that they know that
[0:38:13] I mean that's the reason why this whole thing
[0:38:14] was set up the way it was set up
[0:38:16] with television movies television
[0:38:19] radio
[0:38:20] newspapers I mean you know
[0:38:23] it's all about
[0:38:25] the indoctrination how can
[0:38:27] you get people that are not
[0:38:28] taught to have an open mind
[0:38:30] to have an open mind about things
[0:38:32] You know, I would come in with the Billboard magazine and the Hot 100 to the music director.
[0:38:38] This record is a stiff, and it says it's number two.
[0:38:42] This record's a stiff.
[0:38:43] Well, there's no, you know, I'd have to fire the music director because he was so closed-minded.
[0:38:48] Because that is truth.
[0:38:51] Well, it's not.
[0:38:52] And all you have to do is to go out and talk to people and ask them about the music.
[0:38:57] Well, let's apply that to your concept of getting involved in local politics.
[0:39:02] It's about talking to people. It's about being in touch with the grassroots. That's where the war is going to be is going to be won or lost at that point.
[0:39:13] And I think that that in and not to get political, but to continue on with this closed mindedness, I think that the government is toast in my mind.
[0:39:24] You know, it's just toast.
[0:39:25] Well, I mean, all the polling numbers show that decline in trust of the government, decline in trust of the media.
[0:39:33] It's 20 percent of people at best.
[0:39:36] Yeah.
[0:39:37] Trust the government.
[0:39:39] So, you know, you see what's going on on a on a on a grand scale.
[0:39:44] And that battle has been won by the bad guys.
[0:39:49] And now they're taking it right down into what's going on in your community here and our community,
[0:39:54] taking it right down to that level because they don't have to worry about the top end.
[0:39:59] They're worrying about the bottom end now.
[0:40:01] So I do agree with you when you talk about local and how important local elections are
[0:40:07] and local decision-making.
[0:40:09] Yeah, that's where this war is going to be won, I think.
[0:40:13] I think you're right.
[0:40:14] I think I'm right.
[0:40:19] But there's a story that you told me once upon a time.
[0:40:24] And it was about your days in Detroit at WDTX.
[0:40:29] Yes. Big 50,000 watt FM station.
[0:40:32] Remember we talked about the smaller markets, the media markets, and the top markets.
[0:40:37] Parallel 3, Parallel 2, Parallel 1.
[0:40:40] When you worked as a program director at a Parallel 1 radio station, that's an important job.
[0:40:46] The record companies want to make sure they know who you are, what you're into, and give it to you and lots of it.
[0:40:53] Whether it be drugs, whether it be sex, whether it be booze, whether it be money.
[0:41:01] So I go into Detroit, Michigan, piss off all of the record promoters, the local independent guy, Barry Ginsburg.
[0:41:11] And we start losing some of that business on the radio station.
[0:41:16] The cocaine, the cocaine dries up for the disc jockeys.
[0:41:20] The cocaine.
[0:41:21] Is that true?
[0:41:22] Oh my gosh, yes.
[0:41:23] Oh, my gosh, yes.
[0:41:25] Unreal.
[0:41:26] Yeah.
[0:41:28] So they wanted to get to me.
[0:41:32] They wanted to get to me.
[0:41:34] They didn't know how.
[0:41:35] So they send in a guy by the name of Ben Scotty.
[0:41:40] Now, Ben Scotty, his stature, let me tell you, he's a big guy.
[0:41:44] He, yeah, there's his picture, Ben Scotty.
[0:41:48] He, I think he tried out for the Philadelphia Eagles.
[0:41:51] He was a football player.
[0:41:52] Right.
[0:41:53] I mean, he was a football player.
[0:41:55] He was a big guy.
[0:41:57] Ben, this is his Wikipedia page.
[0:42:02] He was a defensive back in the NFL, graduate from Maryland, University of Maryland.
[0:42:07] He played for the Washington Redskins and the Philadelphia Eagles and then the San Francisco 49ers.
[0:42:13] Yeah.
[0:42:14] I mean, this cat was big.
[0:42:16] Well, he and his brother, Scotty Brothers, they get into a media business, record company, films.
[0:42:24] And we used to joke that Ben was coming into town.
[0:42:28] You better, you know, make sure you don't get your kneecaps broke.
[0:42:31] It was a joke, right?
[0:42:32] Right.
[0:42:33] But when you meet the guy and you see him, it's like, wow.
[0:42:37] And then when he talks, he was sent in to meet with me because the owner of the radio station wanted to know if I was on the take.
[0:42:49] Because there was a rumor going around that I was Fred DeScipio's guy.
[0:42:56] Who's Fred DeScipio?
[0:42:57] Fred DeScipio was a promoter in Philadelphia, an independent promoter in Philly.
[0:43:05] Fred DeScipio, I'm from Philly.
[0:43:08] I worked in Philadelphia.
[0:43:09] Look at this.
[0:43:10] The first thing that comes up is a Substack article,
[0:43:13] how the mafia used to control the music industry.
[0:43:17] Look at this.
[0:43:18] It's the first, and look who that is.
[0:43:21] There's a picture of Meyer Lansky,
[0:43:23] who we've talked about on this show before,
[0:43:25] the Italian and Jewish mafia,
[0:43:27] as part of their larger business ventures.
[0:43:30] Oh, yeah.
[0:43:30] Let's see if there's,
[0:43:31] do we have a picture of Fred DeScipio in here?
[0:43:34] Chicago. Let's see. Fred. D.I. Right there. Decipio. Yeah, there he is. Fred Decipio. Anyway.
[0:43:43] But God, so Fred Decipio. So Fred Decipio is buddies. So they start researching me.
[0:43:49] This is like, we got to get control of this guy. We got to find out about him.
[0:43:54] They think I'm on the take and they start to investigate and they find out that
[0:43:59] I'm from Philly
[0:44:01] Fred DeScipio is from Philly
[0:44:03] a good buddy of Fred DeScipio's
[0:44:06] was a guy by the name of Dave Parks
[0:44:08] Dave Parks hired me
[0:44:10] from Philadelphia to Richmond, Virginia
[0:44:13] then he hired me
[0:44:14] a year and a half later
[0:44:15] to Indianapolis, Indiana
[0:44:17] he gets fired
[0:44:20] as program director in Indy
[0:44:22] and goes and he takes
[0:44:23] a record promotion job
[0:44:26] with 20th Century Records
[0:44:27] All right? He's Fred DeScipio's guy. Now, I was giving information to my old, before I even
[0:44:38] understood what was going on, I'd get a phone call on Friday from my old buddy, Dave Parks.
[0:44:44] He hired me. We're buds. He hired me twice. Tried to hire me a third time. And we're talking radio.
[0:44:51] Hey, so what do you think about the Stephanie Mills song?
[0:44:58] What do you think about the such?
[0:44:59] Hey, you know, I got to tell you something, Dave.
[0:45:01] The top three songs I'm looking at this week is Bingy, Bingity, Bingity, Bing, right?
[0:45:08] He gets off the phone with me, and guess who he calls?
[0:45:12] Fred DeScipio.
[0:45:13] Because he told Fred, I can get the information for you.
[0:45:18] And Fred was paying him.
[0:45:21] and getting the information from me. That was in Louisville, a parallel two station,
[0:45:26] Louisville, Kentucky. Well, a couple of years later, I find myself in Detroit, Michigan.
[0:45:33] They can't figure me out. Ah, but the record guys know, hey, he's the guy that was in Louisville
[0:45:40] who was reporting to Fred Decipio. I never even spoke to the man, but I wouldn't know him if I
[0:45:47] fell over him. Right. And so that's where they had to find out. So they send Ben Scotty into Detroit,
[0:45:58] picks me up in a limousine, opens the trunk of the limousine, and gives me a platinum record
[0:46:06] for Survivor and the Rocky film. I had nothing, I didn't even add the record anywhere at any time.
[0:46:15] He just happened to have one and put my name on it, and he thought it would be cool to give to me.
[0:46:19] All right, I took it. I still have it. Still at home.
[0:46:22] He takes me to the Sly Fox restaurant.
[0:46:25] Does that name ring a bell? Sly Fox?
[0:46:28] Not to me.
[0:46:29] I believe, if I'm not mistaken, if that is not the restaurant that the big union mob guy.
[0:46:42] Jimmy Hoffa.
[0:46:43] Jimmy Hoffa. I believe there's a connection between the Sly Fox restaurant in Detroit,
[0:46:49] I believe it's on Woodward Avenue, and I believe that that could have been the last
[0:46:54] time that Jimmy was seen. And of course, he's taken me to that. I mean, it's one big psych game.
[0:47:01] Right. And so I'm sitting with him. It's just one-on-one. And he starts quizzing me.
[0:47:08] And I didn't think anything of it.
[0:47:09] That's how stupid I was.
[0:47:12] Well, you know, do you do?
[0:47:14] No, no, I don't do any drugs.
[0:47:17] No.
[0:47:18] You like to drink a lot, you know?
[0:47:20] No, you know, I'm a beer drinker, you know.
[0:47:24] Well, you know, some guys kind of, you know.
[0:47:29] And when he got to boys, I'm thinking to myself,
[0:47:34] is this bizarro world?
[0:47:36] or what's going on? He was trying to figure out
[0:47:38] what I was all about. He comes back.
[0:47:40] We leave the restaurant. Wait, wait, wait. Time out.
[0:47:42] Pause. He was trying to
[0:47:44] set you up with kids? Well, no,
[0:47:46] no, no. He was trying to find out
[0:47:48] if I had an interest in kids.
[0:47:50] Holy shit. See that?
[0:47:52] See that? Yeah. It wasn't
[0:47:54] coke. It wasn't
[0:47:56] money. It wasn't
[0:47:58] women. It wasn't women.
[0:48:01] And is it boys?
[0:48:04] So at any rate,
[0:48:05] he comes back
[0:48:06] after this meeting.
[0:48:09] Boy, I hope
[0:48:10] Ben Scott is dead. I'm pretty sure he's
[0:48:12] dead, yeah. That's why I was like
[0:48:15] I think we can do this episode.
[0:48:17] Let me double check
[0:48:18] real quick. God, I hope he's dead
[0:48:20] because he may come out and break my kneecaps.
[0:48:22] We are live. Oh yeah, he died March
[0:48:24] 13th, 2025.
[0:48:26] So we're good.
[0:48:27] We're good.
[0:48:28] He just died basically a year ago.
[0:48:32] Oh my gosh.
[0:48:32] Yeah. So he goes back and says to Lorraine Golden, he's clean. He's clean. And so that is an interesting... So then I was allowed to do what I... Oh, I was adding records that weren't even considered hits onto the radio station. They were smash records.
[0:48:57] you know how did we know because we were calling people and asking them you know what do you think
[0:49:01] of this record but um it's all fake it's all gay yeah no it's it's incredible and you know we've
[0:49:08] talked about this a lot behind the scenes um but especially like in the 60s but Beatlemania right
[0:49:16] Beatlemania and this all kind of happened there was a cultural revolution you lived through it
[0:49:23] I'm living through the, you know, the rest of us are all living through the wreckage, the cultural wreckage, I guess, of the 1960s.
[0:49:31] But it's like you got the president.
[0:49:35] All right. 1963, November.
[0:49:40] Who gets murdered in front of the entire nation?
[0:49:42] John F. Kennedy. All right.
[0:49:44] Vatican II is wrapping up, basically.
[0:49:48] I think they're in like year two.
[0:49:50] Year three.
[0:49:51] Year three. All right.
[0:49:52] So you got that cooking.
[0:49:54] Then on the music scene, you've got the Beatles breaking in the fall of 1963.
[0:49:59] Wow, this is such a coincidence, isn't it?
[0:50:03] Oh, don't forget about the Vietnam War with the death of the president, how that's cranking up.
[0:50:10] So yeah, all of these dynamics are working at the same time.
[0:50:13] You talk about the Beatles.
[0:50:15] Well, girls were paid to scream.
[0:50:18] Yeah.
[0:50:19] Let's face it.
[0:50:21] I mean, it was revolutionary.
[0:50:23] The music was coming out of the speaker, and it was hot.
[0:50:28] And so it wasn't like they were stiff records,
[0:50:32] but they brought the Beatles to America.
[0:50:37] I mean, really?
[0:50:39] Wow, this is amazing how this happens.
[0:50:41] Oh, and by the way, now that they got Paola out of the way,
[0:50:46] 1959, 1960, 61,
[0:50:48] now the corporations can come in, Capitol Records,
[0:50:52] and cram this crap down your throat.
[0:50:55] You know what I mean?
[0:50:56] But yeah, there was a lot of dynamics going on at that time.
[0:51:01] And for your younger viewers,
[0:51:06] it was the dark ages before the internet.
[0:51:09] I mean, it really was.
[0:51:10] Now, the internet has a lot of bad shit,
[0:51:14] but it also has a lot of good shit.
[0:51:15] But now, because of AI and because of everything that's going on,
[0:51:20] It's you really have to be careful what you believe.
[0:51:23] Well, I mean, it used to be that you could go on Google and type into Google and what you were looking for would actually pop up.
[0:51:30] Right. But they've payolified the Google search results.
[0:51:33] Now you go to Google, you type it in and you get hit with advertisements.
[0:51:38] The first 10 results are all their ads.
[0:51:41] Yeah. Yeah. And what you're really looking for is on page five or six of the search results.
[0:51:46] I wind up using Russian search websites anymore to try to find what I'm actually looking for.
[0:51:52] It's ridiculous.
[0:51:53] Yeah, and I kind of like to argue with, I use chat GPT, because I listen to this guy on Spaces on X, the general.
[0:52:03] 1776 general.
[0:52:04] Yeah, I love him.
[0:52:05] I absolutely love this guy.
[0:52:07] I wish I knew his real name.
[0:52:09] I wish I could meet up with him and talk to him one-on-one, because he is a fascinating guy.
[0:52:13] He knows a lot about history.
[0:52:15] But he says some really strange-ass things.
[0:52:18] And when he says strange-ass things, it's like, this cannot be correct.
[0:52:22] I'll go to ChatGPT and ask.
[0:52:25] Like black people can't swim.
[0:52:27] Yeah, he came out with a statement.
[0:52:28] He goes, well, black people can't swim.
[0:52:30] I go, what the hell is he talking about, building black people?
[0:52:33] What are you talking about?
[0:52:34] What planet are you from?
[0:52:36] So I put it in ChatGPT about blacks swimming.
[0:52:42] and it comes out with this litany of swimmers
[0:52:45] and how they're great swimmers.
[0:52:47] I said, look, cut the bullshit.
[0:52:50] They're not swimmers.
[0:52:52] You're giving me mainstream media crap.
[0:52:54] I want some information.
[0:52:57] He comes back, ChatGPT, whoever it is, runs it,
[0:53:00] comes back and says, you know, okay, all right,
[0:53:03] I'll cut the bullshit.
[0:53:06] 0.02% of blacks can actually swim.
[0:53:10] But he was saying the reason why there was coming up in the research that they couldn't swim is because of the culture.
[0:53:17] Because they don't have the opportunity that white people have.
[0:53:21] Yada, yada, yada.
[0:53:22] Right.
[0:53:23] You know.
[0:53:23] And so he'll say stuff.
[0:53:26] And, you know, I have to just check this out because this has got to be incorrect.
[0:53:31] Boom.
[0:53:32] Every time he says something that seems crazy, it's correct.
[0:53:36] That's crazy.
[0:53:36] Yeah.
[0:53:37] Unbelievable.
[0:53:37] Yeah.
[0:53:38] Now, where to go from here?
[0:53:43] I mean, there's a couple of things.
[0:53:44] So somebody in the chat is actually talking.
[0:53:46] They were talking about Clear Channel.
[0:53:49] We just called Cheap Channel.
[0:53:50] Cheap Channel.
[0:53:51] Now, of course, since deregulation,
[0:53:55] Clear Channel has basically bought,
[0:53:58] is it iHeart Media now?
[0:53:59] Yeah.
[0:53:59] I think technically is what they're called, iHeart Media.
[0:54:01] Yeah.
[0:54:02] They own like almost every radio station in this country.
[0:54:06] Well, no, no, it's not that bad.
[0:54:07] I mean, it's pretty bad, isn't it? Half?
[0:54:11] No, I think they only own maybe 1,000 stations. There's 10,000 stations.
[0:54:17] Okay.
[0:54:18] But they will own a significant cluster in markets.
[0:54:21] Sure.
[0:54:22] Up to half of the listenership in each market that they own.
[0:54:26] And, you know, when you have one company that owns 50% and one other company that owns the other 50%, that's two companies.
[0:54:33] Right.
[0:54:33] In Wilkes-Barre, Scranton, for example, at one time, there may have been 10 companies, you know, 10 individual localized companies that actually had real people working for them.
[0:54:45] Right.
[0:54:45] Well, you talk about AI taking jobs away from people these days.
[0:54:51] Oh, hell, that happened to radio years ago.
[0:54:53] Yeah.
[0:54:54] I was going to say, I remember one time the two of us, we were visiting a friend in Cincinnati who worked for iHeart.
[0:55:01] Right, right.
[0:55:01] and brought us in.
[0:55:03] And I've never seen anything like it.
[0:55:06] I mean, I really, I wish,
[0:55:07] I don't know if cell phones were a thing,
[0:55:09] but they probably were.
[0:55:10] But, you know, anyway,
[0:55:11] the point is it's like we come into this room
[0:55:13] and it's a big ass room.
[0:55:17] I mean, huge.
[0:55:19] Hundreds of cubicles
[0:55:21] and two people working there.
[0:55:24] Two people.
[0:55:26] Each cubicle was a radio station
[0:55:28] in a different market.
[0:55:30] And you'd get a guy who'd sit down at the cubicle and read the weather report for, you know, Oklahoma City and then get up from the computer.
[0:55:40] And now he's in Tampa, Florida. Right. And he would just they would go around and basically just do laps around the room.
[0:55:48] Well, they don't even do laps anymore. Not anymore. Now it's all just A.I., I'm sure.
[0:55:51] Yeah, now they just sit with one computer and they can do 10 stations, 15 stations, and be a different, and talk about faking, well, faking gay.
[0:56:01] But, you know, one person would be changing their name.
[0:56:04] One would be, you know, Johnny Olson at this station and, you know, Joe Blow over at that station.
[0:56:12] And so none of it's local anymore.
[0:56:14] You find some local radio in the morning.
[0:56:17] In the morning you do find some local radio.
[0:56:21] But outside that, midday, afternoon, even in major markets, there's nobody there.
[0:56:31] I was selling an FM frequency to a company, Intercom, which is now Odyssey in Wilkes-Barre, Scranton.
[0:56:40] And this is a cluster of stations, maybe five, six, seven stations.
[0:56:45] And the general manager said, hey, let me take you on a tour.
[0:56:47] And he would go into each studio and turn the light on.
[0:56:49] there's nobody in the studio and the voice that you're hearing is coming from some other market
[0:56:56] it's all well it's all by design though isn't it yeah you know no they don't want local people
[0:57:04] coming to local conclusions but what they didn't count on was social media and the internet now
[0:57:12] now you've got literally hundreds of podcasts everybody's got a podcast yeah i mean people
[0:57:18] have asked me, well, when are you going to start a podcast?
[0:57:21] I'm thinking, what are you doing?
[0:57:23] I don't know. The live chat's liking it.
[0:57:25] Oh, they're digging it? Yeah, they're digging it.
[0:57:26] Thank you so much. Send money.
[0:57:30] Send money.
[0:57:31] I'm on a...
[0:57:32] Where's the cup? We've got to start shaking the cup.
[0:57:35] I'm on a fixed income now.
[0:57:37] I want to
[0:57:38] move and buy a bigger house,
[0:57:41] but I can't afford it.
[0:57:43] Yeah, we need to bring you up here.
[0:57:46] One of the last
[0:57:47] things I think that we'll talk about with the radio stuff, but this has been, I guess, unfolding
[0:57:52] recently. But here it is. It turns out that Salem Media, right? You know about Salem Media.
[0:58:05] The Trump family owns a stake in Salem Media in which the chief strategy officer at Salem,
[0:58:13] which is this radio network.
[0:58:16] They provide talk shows.
[0:58:18] They provide podcasts.
[0:58:19] And they distribute it to all of these different radio stations throughout the country.
[0:58:22] That's why you're hearing Mark Levin or whoever, Dennis Prager, Josh Hammer Show, Charlie Kirk Show.
[0:58:30] You'll hear it all across the country on these radio stations.
[0:58:34] It's all distributed by Salem.
[0:58:35] Well, Salem Media, which is, I guess, in business with ClocktowerX LLC, they're a registered agent for the state of Israel.
[0:58:46] Oh, I'm not surprised.
[0:58:49] Not surprised at all.
[0:58:51] Yeah, look, I mean, look at this.
[0:58:52] When did this break?
[0:58:53] Well, this is not news.
[0:58:55] This is old news.
[0:58:56] Well, I guess March 29th, 2026, right?
[0:59:00] So, I mean, I'm not going to read this whole tweet.
[0:59:01] You can probably go find it yourself.
[0:59:03] This is from Dankster Intel.
[0:59:07] Okay.
[0:59:09] You know, did you know that the Charlie Kirk show and blah, blah, blah are all broadcast on this network?
[0:59:13] His chief strategy officer is a federally registered foreign agent.
[0:59:17] Farrah registration number 7649 filed with the DOJ.
[0:59:21] Right. This is what they don't want you connecting, blah, blah, blah.
[0:59:24] The chief strategy officer of Salem Media Group, the largest Christian conservative talk network in America.
[0:59:30] principal clock tower x llc is a registered foreign agent with a six million dollar contract
[0:59:37] with the israeli ministry of foreign affairs via havas media group in germany it's nine million
[0:59:42] dollars now they grabbed another three million post filing the faro filing states that the
[0:59:47] israeli government messaging gets integrated into salem media network properties okay wow
[0:59:54] Salem never appears as a disclosed vendor anywhere in the registration.
[0:59:59] There's a gap, a legal gap, blah, blah, blah.
[1:00:01] But here it is.
[1:00:03] Charlie Kirk show.
[1:00:04] They want to talk about Israel.
[1:00:06] Josh Hammer, right?
[1:00:08] Dennis Prager, Dinesh D'Souza, right?
[1:00:12] This is how it's working.
[1:00:13] This is the new modern payola.
[1:00:17] That's what this is.
[1:00:18] And so, you know, for people, why is he talking about payola?
[1:00:21] This is old fogey stuff, blah, blah.
[1:00:22] No, it's still happening.
[1:00:24] It's still happening today. And Salem Media is like just one. I mean, all of these people.
[1:00:31] What's his name over at Fox? What's the guy's name? Why can't I remember it?
[1:00:36] Levin?
[1:00:37] No, no, no, no, no, not Levin. I'm the owner, the owner.
[1:00:40] Oh, yeah, yeah, the owner.
[1:00:42] What's his name? But he's a big Zionist. All of these people are, you know, and that's one of the reasons, frankly, why, you know, I think, you know, we were targeted.
[1:00:51] We were targeted back in the day.
[1:00:54] And I think it's, I mean, you were talking,
[1:00:55] and I've said this on the show so many times.
[1:00:57] I mean, I remember listening to you back in like 2006
[1:00:59] on your morning show talking about bombing Iran, you know?
[1:01:04] And it's like, here we are 20 years later,
[1:01:06] we're finally bombing Iran.
[1:01:08] But, you know, they cannot handle alternative points of view
[1:01:13] or counterpoints with this for it to work.
[1:01:16] They have to keep people in their media market,
[1:01:19] in this media ecosystem where they control all the off-ramps.
[1:01:24] And you'll even see certain people that will look like they're anti-Semitic
[1:01:30] or something like that, but they're not.
[1:01:32] They're doing a controlled opposition with it.
[1:01:36] And so I just think that's interesting.
[1:01:39] Yeah, it's the new payola.
[1:01:40] There you go. It's the new payola.
[1:01:42] It's come full circle.
[1:01:43] And when you look at what's happening to the country today,
[1:01:46] they can't seem to get at the first and second amendment they can't seem to get at it i mean
[1:01:54] they're they're trying to tear it down yeah all right so they're going in through the back door
[1:02:00] with with all this payola and all this the influencers and everything to to shut down
[1:02:05] freedom of speech because they can't shut down the first and second amendment because if they
[1:02:10] could they would yeah and there's where the the battle is really do you remember there was a video
[1:02:16] Let me see if I can pull it up. There was a video of an Israeli billionaire that said that we need to end the First Amendment.
[1:02:24] Let me see if I can. Israeli says we need to end First Amendment.
[1:02:31] It was on TV. I retweeted it back in the day.
[1:02:36] It's not going to come up for me, but it's out there.
[1:02:40] We played the clip on the show several months back.
[1:02:43] But yeah, no, it's unbelievable
[1:02:46] So it was faking gay then, it's faking gay now
[1:02:49] Yeah, nothing new
[1:02:51] And you've lived it
[1:02:53] Unbelievable
[1:02:54] Now, as a visitor, some questions about
[1:02:58] What do you think of North Idaho?
[1:03:00] There's no black people
[1:03:02] There aren't any black people here
[1:03:04] It's true, it's true, what do you want?
[1:03:08] Well, my wife just said
[1:03:08] She said, it was yesterday
[1:03:11] Have you seen any black people?
[1:03:13] I said, well, now that you mention it, no, I haven't.
[1:03:18] I mean, you know, call me a racist or call you a racist.
[1:03:21] Call me or don't call him a racist.
[1:03:22] Right.
[1:03:22] That's fine.
[1:03:23] But, you know, you do notice that.
[1:03:25] Yeah.
[1:03:25] You know.
[1:03:26] Yeah.
[1:03:27] But, I mean, the culture up here is different.
[1:03:30] I mean, it still feels to me like, I guess I get it on the other end, right,
[1:03:35] where when I go to visit Chicago or California or New York,
[1:03:41] it feels like I'm flying into a different country.
[1:03:44] Oh, let me tell you, when we flew out of Philadelphia,
[1:03:47] literally, literally, there were so many tiny hat people.
[1:03:52] There were so many Muslims.
[1:03:55] Yeah.
[1:03:55] There were so many gays and transgenders.
[1:03:58] I mean, guys, dudes walking around dressed as women and stuff in the airport.
[1:04:03] And it's like, this is Philadelphia.
[1:04:07] I mean, it's unbelievable.
[1:04:11] We've been invaded.
[1:04:13] They can't take away the First and Second Amendment, so they're going to cut our balls off.
[1:04:18] And you know something?
[1:04:19] I think they have pretty much.
[1:04:21] That's my opinion.
[1:04:23] Do you think there's hope for this country?
[1:04:27] We are the last hope, that's for sure.
[1:04:30] For the world, I think we are the last hope.
[1:04:33] But based on what you've seen over your life.
[1:04:37] I don't want to talk negative.
[1:04:38] No, go ahead. This is the point of the show.
[1:04:40] I think we're toast. I think we're done.
[1:04:43] I think that the powers are...
[1:04:46] You can look back in history where they tried to do this sort of nonsense before,
[1:04:50] and I get it, okay, and know your history before it repeats itself.
[1:04:55] But really, we are in a territory that really has never been done before
[1:04:59] because you've got social media, AI.
[1:05:02] You've got the control of our government to an extent that is ridiculous.
[1:05:08] You've got these laws that they can't take away the First Amendment,
[1:05:13] but by God, they're going to put up so many laws that you can't say this and you can't say that.
[1:05:21] And so they're going to get you, come hell or high water.
[1:05:23] Do I think the country's toast?
[1:05:25] Absolutely.
[1:05:26] It's over with.
[1:05:28] That's what I believe.
[1:05:29] There's nowhere to go.
[1:05:31] There's nowhere to go.
[1:05:32] there's nowhere to go there's nowhere to hide all of these other countries are all toast you know
[1:05:37] it's that's how i feel i feel very black pilled i mean i feel black pilled on top of black pilled
[1:05:46] i mean there are times i i have to just turn off media turn off x stop listening to the spaces
[1:05:52] you know stop reading the news yeah you know but uh yeah i'm pretty black pilled i gotta tell you
[1:05:59] Well, and I think that a lot of the media and a lot of the stuff that's allowed on social media, the criticism of the government for being controlled by Israel, which is true.
[1:06:11] I don't think it's an opinion.
[1:06:13] I was about to follow that up with, in my opinion.
[1:06:16] No, it's not my opinion.
[1:06:17] It's true.
[1:06:17] It's true.
[1:06:18] They're dog walking Donald Trump.
[1:06:21] By the way, did you vote for Donald Trump?
[1:06:22] I voted for him three times.
[1:06:24] Three times.
[1:06:25] I was going to say, I've got one for you right here.
[1:06:27] He fell for it again award.
[1:06:29] Can I have this?
[1:06:30] Yeah, you can keep that.
[1:06:31] Because if anybody deserves it, I do.
[1:06:34] Three times.
[1:06:35] Three times.
[1:06:36] Yeah.
[1:06:37] Can I hang it there?
[1:06:39] There you go.
[1:06:40] That works.
[1:06:41] Not what you signed up for?
[1:06:44] No, not at all.
[1:06:46] You talk about disappointing.
[1:06:48] Holy cow.
[1:06:49] Yeah.
[1:06:49] Now, I voted for him three times.
[1:06:53] I really expected him to get some shit done. Pardon my French. You're allowed to swear on
[1:07:00] this program. But I've said to friends of mine that are diehard Trump fans and whatnot,
[1:07:09] and I said, wait a second, we shouldn't be fighting this war in Iran. We should get the
[1:07:14] heck out. We've got highways that are falling apart, bridges that are falling down. You've got
[1:07:20] you know, these cities that are filled with drug addicts that really belong in hospitals
[1:07:26] and taken off the street for crying out loud. You've got these gangs. You've got the Mexicans
[1:07:34] that have taken over Southern California. The whole Southwest has been basically invaded by
[1:07:42] Mexico. You know, and then you've got the Somali problem and you've got the Indian problem and
[1:07:49] you've got all these people that have flooded into the country. We hired a person from Canada
[1:07:57] in 1996, a girl. She was the sharpest promoter, a marketing person, and I interviewed maybe 100
[1:08:12] people. And it's like, I cannot find one person that is as sharp as this girl. Cher Ames was her
[1:08:19] name. And Cher was from Canada. You wouldn't believe what we had to go through to get her
[1:08:26] into the country and get her working at the radio station. Several, between $20,000 and $30,000
[1:08:34] in legal expenses.
[1:08:38] She finally, she ended up
[1:08:41] in Chicago and contacted me
[1:08:43] when she got her formal
[1:08:45] citizenship.
[1:08:48] But, I mean, that wasn't that long ago
[1:08:52] where you'd had to jump through
[1:08:53] all of these hoops to get somebody
[1:08:55] to work at a radio station in a promotion.
[1:08:57] Now they come in by the tens of thousands.
[1:09:00] Well, only if they're not white.
[1:09:02] If they're Indian,
[1:09:04] then you get the h1b stuff going on and they just move them right now you know we've got a big
[1:09:09] problem with that here in idaho certainly micron the idaho dairymen's association we've been
[1:09:14] finding out more and more on board with all the illegal immigration yeah uh boycott those people
[1:09:20] by the way but i was going to say this reminded me of a video that i saw recently from a news
[1:09:25] report in pennsylvania this came out uh about a month ago month and a half ago let's uh play this
[1:09:31] real quick. Let's take a listen to one
[1:09:33] more woman who we spoke with.
[1:09:36] If you could say something to President
[1:09:37] Trump and he was going to hear you right now,
[1:09:39] what would it be?
[1:09:41] You're a worthless pile of
[1:09:43] s***.
[1:09:45] And you voted for him how many times?
[1:09:47] Three times. That was
[1:09:49] my bad. Apparently, I'm an
[1:09:51] idiot.
[1:09:54] Here,
[1:09:55] we have something for you.
[1:09:57] We have a fell for it again award for you.
[1:09:59] Madam, you can come to Idaho
[1:10:01] to collect it, but it's like, you know, but, you know, and thinking about all of this stuff,
[1:10:05] the research, getting in touch with the grassroots and stuff, it's like, this is where people are.
[1:10:10] I'm sorry. Like the Republicans don't want to hear it. They're sticking their fingers in their
[1:10:16] ears, but they're fucking it all up. They're going to lose to the Democrats in a couple of
[1:10:21] months here. Yeah, that's right. Trump is going to get impeached, most likely, or at least the
[1:10:27] administration is just going to be mired in lawsuits and hearings and all of this stuff.
[1:10:34] And then and then what? They're going to get what? A pro-Zionist Democrat.
[1:10:38] Gavin Newsom? Probably. Yeah, probably. Yeah, he's good looking, you know, slick white guy.
[1:10:44] You know, they've they've you know, they've kind of understood that if they if they can prop up like
[1:10:49] a white guy, you know, like Tim Walz was going around with his camo hats when he was running
[1:10:54] with Kamala Harris, you know, white dudes for Kamala. What the heck is going on here? But,
[1:11:00] but yeah, no, I mean, I think that there are going to be certain places in this country,
[1:11:06] pockets, pockets where people are going to be able to resist this, whatever it is, empire,
[1:11:15] global empire, the tyranny of all the AI, the flock cameras, the ubiquitous spying on everybody.
[1:11:26] I think North Idaho and the Pacific Northwest, generally speaking, with the exception of
[1:11:31] Portland and Seattle, those are lost causes. You know, Ayatollah, if you can hear me, please
[1:11:37] send a nuclear bomb to Seattle. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. That's a joke.
[1:11:42] going to get demonetized for that probably.
[1:11:45] But I think that there are areas, pockets,
[1:11:49] where people will be able to put up a resistance.
[1:11:53] I think that this is the prime spot.
[1:11:55] I think it always has been the prime spot.
[1:11:58] I think it's one of the reasons why North Idaho
[1:11:59] was targeted by the feds in the 70s and the 80s
[1:12:02] and Ruby Ridge and everything that happened.
[1:12:05] I think that, you know, not to be doing commercial,
[1:12:08] I should get my real estate license
[1:12:09] and start selling people and then watch the show some places to live, you know.
[1:12:16] Hey, get your super chats.
[1:12:17] And if you have any super chats, any questions that you have for either me or my old man,
[1:12:23] we'll definitely answer them.
[1:12:25] Let's see.
[1:12:26] Let me do a quick ad read real quick.
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[1:15:53] You've been retired for three years.
[1:15:55] Over three years.
[1:15:56] Over three years.
[1:15:57] It's going to be four years and several months.
[1:15:58] Yeah.
[1:15:59] And this is your first time on, like, TV, right?
[1:16:02] I was a big-time DJ.
[1:16:04] Yeah, you have a face for radio.
[1:16:05] Yeah, right.
[1:16:08] Oh, man.
[1:16:10] Yeah, what else?
[1:16:11] That's it.
[1:16:12] There's a lot.
[1:16:13] There's a lot of craziness going on, man.
[1:16:16] I was going to say, you know, I was going through my bookmarks over the past couple of days.
[1:16:22] I'm going to need to do a show going over everything that's been happening.
[1:16:27] I mean, it's like, I don't understand these people.
[1:16:29] You know, there's these, the Judge Napolitano shows and all that.
[1:16:33] And it's just like, every six hours, the situation changes.
[1:16:38] And, you know, we were joking about this the other day.
[1:16:40] There was this big announcement, oh, the straight and four moves have been reopened.
[1:16:44] It's all over.
[1:16:45] And it was like literally eight hours later, they're bombing each other again.
[1:16:48] The straights are closed.
[1:16:49] There's a blockade.
[1:16:50] And so, you know, this is like the perfect time to like chill out, step away from the media news cycle because there's nothing really happening.
[1:17:03] I mean, the war is happening. It's not good. Things are going to get bad.
[1:17:08] I mean, they're blowing up all of these oil refineries.
[1:17:13] But getting all emotional about it and, you know, constantly checking the feed for, oh, what's the latest news?
[1:17:21] Go turn off the phone for a week.
[1:17:24] You'll know what's going on based on the price of gas, the price of Bitcoin, whatever.
[1:17:30] You know, like that will dictate, I think, more truth than the media.
[1:17:34] Because the media thing, it's all fake.
[1:17:37] They're just trying to position people to support the war, which is incredible.
[1:17:44] Something that did happen, though, that I do think is worth talking about, this was just yesterday.
[1:17:50] The IDF confirmed that one of their soldiers in Lebanon took a sledgehammer to a crucifix in Lebanon during their operations.
[1:18:09] How do you know that's not fake?
[1:18:11] Because they confirmed it.
[1:18:13] Here's the article.
[1:18:14] We'll pull up the article from informationliberation.com.
[1:18:18] IDF soldier takes sledgehammer to Jesus during operations in Lebanon. Here's a local page from
[1:18:25] the Christian town of Debel mentioning the statue belongs to them. Photo went viral. The IDF,
[1:18:32] oopsie daisy, come back here. The IDF, oh come on, load, load. Come on Elon. The IDF on Sunday
[1:18:39] admitted that the photo was legit and promised an investigation. Oh come on. Yep, following the
[1:18:47] completion of an internal examination regarding a photograph published earlier today of an IDF
[1:18:52] soldier harming a Christian symbol, it was determined that the photograph depicts an IDF
[1:18:56] soldier operating in southern Lebanon. So there it is. The IDF has confirmed, and this is sacrilege.
[1:19:04] This is a sacrilege. And, you know, one of the things that I said today, not to toot my own horn
[1:19:12] or anything like that, but please go to my Twitter. If you're not following my Twitter,
[1:19:15] you should be uh but i i said you know the more that these christian zionists bless israel the
[1:19:22] more the israelis blaspheme christ make it make sense you know yeah it's just incredible and it's
[1:19:29] not just this there is a video that our good friend of the show vincent james just posted
[1:19:34] we'll uh play this real quick it's a minute and 36 seconds long let's take a look
[1:19:40] I have to love this Milano
[1:19:46] I love this
[1:19:46] I love this
[1:19:48] I love this
[1:19:49] I love this
[1:19:51] I love Yeshua
[1:19:51] Right?
[1:19:53] Whoa, whoa
[1:19:54] It's really big
[1:19:56] And it's inappropriate for this place
[1:19:58] Okay?
[1:19:58] That's a special place
[1:19:59] You need to respect all this
[1:20:00] So you can put it inside
[1:20:01] Okay, this is very harsh
[1:20:04] It's very harsh
[1:20:05] I'm respecting your religion
[1:20:05] No, no, no, no
[1:20:06] No, no, no
[1:20:08] No, no, no
[1:20:09] I'm going to go and go and go.
[1:20:11] Boom!
[1:20:12] Right!
[1:20:13] Joe!
[1:20:17] Yep, they just threw that down.
[1:20:19] They've picked up chunks in our...
[1:20:21] ...or smashing the cross.
[1:20:23] You ask for your suckers.
[1:20:26] You and your fucking Jesus to kiss my ass, okay?
[1:20:30] No way.
[1:20:31] No camera, no camera.
[1:20:33] I break your...
[1:20:35] Don't take pictures.
[1:20:37] Okay?
[1:20:39] That's a statue of St. George, by the way.
[1:20:46] ...water village of Sarada, and I want to show you how badly this church has been absolutely
[1:20:56] desecrated by the Israeli forces.
[1:20:58] You can see here that there's a bunch of graffiti on the wall, but I think actually that's probably
[1:21:03] the least offensive thing.
[1:21:05] I think one of the most offensive things that we have found in this church is the desecration
[1:21:10] of religious figurines. So this would have been Jesus. So there you go. I mean, it's, uh,
[1:21:19] it's unbelievable. Unbelievable. The level at which these people, our greatest ally are, uh,
[1:21:27] you know, operating. It's just shameful. It's shameful. And I just don't understand,
[1:21:31] You know, you were talking about this earlier, having a closed mind.
[1:21:33] Yeah, totally closed.
[1:21:34] You can play that video for people, and they will still somehow come up with excuses as to why we need to send our money and our military, our blood and treasure, to support this.
[1:21:49] It's crazy.
[1:21:50] Do you have any thoughts on this?
[1:21:52] Do you think the war with Iran is fake and gay?
[1:21:54] I've been kind of thinking to myself, you know, for 40 or 50 days, you know, launching missiles and Israel still exists?
[1:22:05] Come on.
[1:22:06] What are they doing?
[1:22:08] Yeah.
[1:22:08] Well, I don't think that the Iran war is fake and gay because I do believe that they want a greater Israel.
[1:22:18] They want that greater Israel.
[1:22:20] I mean, they've made maps.
[1:22:21] They've been talking about it for a long, long time.
[1:22:24] Yeah. So in that regard, I don't think it's it's fake.
[1:22:28] Right now, to your point, why haven't they blown Israel off the face of the earth?
[1:22:37] That part is, you know, well, there's some question there.
[1:22:40] Hit a water desalination plant the way that Trump is threatening to do to Iran.
[1:22:45] And they're toast. Unreal. Yeah.
[1:22:47] Unreal to see how this is all going to going to play out.
[1:22:51] you know is this going to drag on through the midterms that'd be crazy i just i don't understand
[1:22:57] how the hell because as soon as this war because there's the fog of war you know and as soon as
[1:23:03] that all ends we're going to i think be given a hint at the actual destruction that's taking place
[1:23:09] in oman and the uae all of these petro refining places and i don't think we're going to be getting
[1:23:18] over this very quickly.
[1:23:20] No, I still, I maintain that we have yet to feel the full effect.
[1:23:26] Well, you know, the Iran war is one thing.
[1:23:29] The greater Israel project is another thing.
[1:23:32] But then there are two big wild cards out there.
[1:23:35] The Russian wild card and the China wild card and how they're going to play into this whole
[1:23:43] thing.
[1:23:44] Yeah.
[1:23:44] That's when it's really going to get interesting.
[1:23:47] interesting and dangerous, I think. I think so, too. You know, there's a Lebanese reporter that
[1:23:56] I've been following for years. He kind of sounds a little gay. He has a hard-ass sound, but he's
[1:24:01] really good, and he most recently bleached his hair blonde, you know, but he's really good. I
[1:24:07] saw him being interviewed, and rightly so. He said something last week that I've been saying for
[1:24:13] years that the only thing that protects the United States of America really is from sea to shining
[1:24:21] sea. We can go out and do sucker punches and come back to home base. There's always home base to
[1:24:26] come back to. So our land, our geography has made us into the superpower. But I don't know whether
[1:24:34] we can go out and do sucker punches without having problems here on our soil.
[1:24:38] Yeah. You know, I've been getting I've been getting some bad vibes. We got this big America 250 celebration coming up this year.
[1:24:47] You know, they're they're all planning for this big parades and, you know, stuff happening, I guess, in Washington, D.C.
[1:24:55] And it's like, you know, Laura Loomer, one of these influencer people recently said something to the effect of, oh, there's going to be a terror attack in the United States.
[1:25:05] And it's like, are they gearing up for something happening here?
[1:25:11] Well, there is a terror attack.
[1:25:13] There's a terror attack on Los Angeles and the Southwest with Mexicans.
[1:25:17] There's terror attacks all over the place.
[1:25:20] Now, is it going to be to the scale of war?
[1:25:24] I don't know.
[1:25:25] I don't know.
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[1:25:58] They've got these, is it new arrivals that I saw?
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[1:26:09] Let's see, jug.
[1:26:11] What if I search?
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[1:26:13] Oh, yeah, I could use one of those.
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[1:26:25] Oh, geez.
[1:26:26] There's actually, I was going to play this.
[1:26:28] Somebody who's been on this show before, our friend Homath recently did a...
[1:26:34] Yeah, I've been following him.
[1:26:36] Did a commercial. Yeah, he's pretty good.
[1:26:38] Especially with the women's stuff.
[1:26:43] Where is it? Did he delete it? Is it gone?
[1:26:46] Oh, well.
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[1:28:41] We do have a super chat
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[1:28:47] Sent $10. Thank you for the big
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[1:28:51] I appreciate that.
[1:28:53] That's the only super chat. Been a little light
[1:28:55] on super chats recently, guys.
[1:28:57] Come on.
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[1:29:04] I'm kidding
[1:29:06] oh man
[1:29:07] but yeah pretty good viewership today actually
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[1:29:11] 30 on YouTube
[1:29:12] do you guys like this time slot
[1:29:14] let me know in the comments section below
[1:29:16] if this time slot is a little bit better
[1:29:19] than the 11am 2pm one
[1:29:22] that was a little goofy anyway
[1:29:23] no need to keep
[1:29:24] keep the old time slot
[1:29:26] there's been a shake up on the program
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[1:31:05] Do they have any wheelbarrows?
[1:31:08] Do they sell wheelbarrows?
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[1:31:12] Jeez.
[1:31:15] Prepping.
[1:31:15] I'm prepping.
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[1:32:37] Well, thank you.
[1:32:38] You're welcome.
[1:32:39] For coming on the show and sharing some war stories
[1:32:41] from back in the day.
[1:32:42] Yeah, back in the day.
[1:32:43] It's all fake and gay.
[1:32:46] All right, my friend.
[1:32:47] All right.
[1:32:47] Well, thank you so much. God bless. We'll be back on Wednesday. We've got a very big episode
[1:32:53] coming on Wednesday with Mr. Michael Thomas, the head of the Catholic land movement.
[1:33:00] We got into it a little bit talking about Catholic social teaching, the Catholic land movement,
[1:33:05] which is growing not only here in North Idaho, but across the country. We're going to have a
[1:33:10] lot more information on you about that. Alternative economic theories, you know, not capitalism,
[1:33:15] non-socialism, something called distributism. So we're going to be getting into all of that and
[1:33:19] more this Wednesday. Mark your calendars and don't forget to hit the like button on this video.
[1:33:25] Thank you so much. God bless and have a good day. Bye.
[1:33:45] Thank you.
[1:34:15] I'm sorry.
[1:34:45] Thank you.
[1:35:15] We'll be right back.
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