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[0:02:36] Rebecca Hargraves
Welcome to the backlash. I am your host, Rebecca Hargraves, joined as always by Mr. Dave Riley.
[0:02:42] Dave Reilly
How are you doing today? I'm doing well. Yeah.
[0:02:44] Rebecca Hargraves
Very well-rested. Oh, what?
[0:02:46] Dave Reilly
Yeah.
[0:02:47] Rebecca Hargraves
How has this been possible?
[0:02:48] Dave Reilly
It's been the weekend, touch, and grass. Oh. Beautiful place.
[0:02:52] Rebecca Hargraves
Not going to say where.
[0:02:53] Dave Reilly
Oh, OK. But I got to stay with a listener of the show. And they didn't murder you. No. And the best part
is that I had met him three years ago. And I called him a fed to his face. What is wrong with you? And
he hated me for three years.
[0:03:08] Rebecca Hargraves
But he came around on you.
[0:03:09] Dave Reilly
And that's what we're trying to do with the audience.
[0:03:10] Rebecca Hargraves
We're trying to force Dave down your throat. You guys are going to like Dave. We have a great show for
you today. We have Mr. Phil Turnie. We will talk about him in one second. But first, you can find us on x
at real backlash. Our website, the backlash.net. Support us on subscribestar.com slash the backlash
patreon.com.
[0:03:29] Dave Reilly
Slash the backlash. You really need to update that branding? I know.
[0:03:33] Rebecca Hargraves
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It's OK. It's OK. We'll figure it out. Send your super chats that will be read live. Questions for Mr. Phil
Turnie at the end of our show, the backlash.net slash super chat.
[0:03:44] Dave Reilly
Subtewes on YouTube, we are streaming finally
[0:03:46] Rebecca Hargraves
on our YouTube channel that is at.
[0:03:47] Dave Reilly
Allegedly.
[0:03:48] Rebecca Hargraves
Real backlash. Ha ha. Yes, it says live. But it doesn't. It doesn't. There we go. There we go.
[0:03:55] Dave Reilly
Yeah, our first three listeners right now.
[0:03:58] Rebecca Hargraves
Subtewes on rumble. Backlash podcast. Thank you so much for joining us today. We want to give a
quick shout out to our sponsors, Atlas Bullion, Idaho, Tallow, Antelope Hill. We'll talk about them after
the super chats. And thank you so much.
[0:04:13] Dave Reilly
So Phil Turnie is a US Navy veteran who
[0:04:16] Rebecca Hargraves
served aboard the USS Liberty who survived the June 8, 1967 attacks. That's 58 years ago on the ship
by Israeli forces in international waters. An incident that killed 34 crew members
[0:04:29] Dave Reilly
wounded 171, the carnage.
[0:04:33] Rebecca Hargraves
Turning has since advocated for greater awareness at the event serving as three time president
[0:04:38] Dave Reilly
of the USS Liberty Veterans Association, the LDA.
[0:04:41] Rebecca Hargraves
He's the author of several books on the subject, including what I saw that day. Israel's June 8, 1967
Holocaust of US servicemen
[0:04:48] Dave Reilly
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aboard the USS Liberty and its aftermath. And erasing the liberty, the battle to keep
[0:04:53] Rebecca Hargraves
alive the memory of Israel's massacre. Hey, wait a minute, you forgot this one.
[0:04:57] Dave Reilly
Holocaust on the high seas.
[0:05:00] Rebecca Hargraves
I'm sorry, did I misread?
[0:05:01] Dave Reilly
Did I get the wrong title? This is a real book, though. He did publish this. Oh, OK, I just, I had it. And this
book just happened to have a good book.
[0:05:10] Rebecca Hargraves
The battle to keep alive, the memory of Israel's massacre on the USS Liberty.
[0:05:13] Dave Reilly
Thank you so much for joining us today.
[0:05:15] Rebecca Hargraves
It's such a pleasure to have you on.
[0:05:20] Dave Reilly
Ah, no, why can't we hear him now?
[0:05:23] Rebecca Hargraves
Uh-oh, uh-oh. Sorry, guys.
[0:05:28] Dave Reilly
Yeah, let's see. Let's see. Why is that happening? We just had his audio.
[0:05:35] Rebecca Hargraves
We just had it. Let's see, he's putting his headphones on.
[0:05:40] Dave Reilly
We can't hear you. Nope. Can you hear us? Nothing changed on our end.
[0:05:45] Rebecca Hargraves
Nope, he can hear us.
[0:05:50] Dave Reilly
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Check to see in the, uh, in your, in the lower left hand corner, you should be able to choose a
microphone. Just make sure that the right microphone is chosen. Nope. Not yet.
[0:06:04] Rebecca Hargraves
Should I tell my story about Vashon while you guys are figuring this out?
[0:06:06] Dave Reilly
Yeah, please.
[0:06:07] Rebecca Hargraves
OK, OK, so this week I'm on Vashon Island,
[0:06:10] Dave Reilly
the most liberal place in the entire country.
[0:06:14] Rebecca Hargraves
And somebody comes up to me and they're like, does anybody told you that you look like Rebecca
Hargraves? Like everybody would know who Rebecca Hargraves is. Like if he just went up to some
person and you're like, oh, you know, Rebecca Hargraves, they'd be like, yeah,
[0:06:28] Dave Reilly
I totally know who that is. It was the craziest stuff.
[0:06:31] Rebecca Hargraves
He was a fan.
[0:06:33] Dave Reilly
I was a little worried I was going to get shanked. But he turned out to be a super cool dude.
[0:06:37] Rebecca Hargraves
It was just the wildest thing. He watches the backlash. And when I'm on Vashon,
[0:06:41] Dave Reilly
I feel invisible. Like no one would ever recognize me there. But it happened. Can't believe it. What do
we do about this? I don't know. Phil, do you want to leave and come back? Leave the room and come
back. Maybe that because it was working when you first came in. So we see you shaking your head up
and down. Let's do that. We'll be here. The link ain't changing.
[0:07:08] Rebecca Hargraves
Talking about ourselves.
[0:07:09] Dave Reilly
So we'll just talk about ourselves for a little bit. I know. Does that mean that I'm famous? I believe so.
No. I believe so. No. Yeah. I do get recognized at pilgrims the other day too. Yeah.
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[0:07:21] Rebecca Hargraves
You're famous.
[0:07:22] Dave Reilly
No.
[0:07:23] Rebecca Hargraves
I get recognized. Jennifer Lawrence can't walk down the street without getting recognized. I get
recognized once a month and it's like the highlight of my month.
[0:07:28] Dave Reilly
See, I'm like an efflist, Isleab.
[0:07:30] Rebecca Hargraves
Yeah.
[0:07:31] Dave Reilly
We're low. Even the people that know don't know who I am. And it's crazy too. In all the young groypers
or whatever, like you would think that they would know who I am because of the whole thing. But
there's so many new people that have come in since COVID, since, you know, since the whole yay 24
thing, people just have no clue about 2019. Let's see. Can we hear you?
[0:07:59] Rebecca Hargraves
No. I heard him for a split second. All right. One more time.
[0:08:05] Dave Reilly
We're having some technical difficulties over here.
[0:08:09] Rebecca Hargraves
Yeah. Well, I think it's got to be on your end, Mr. Tony.
[0:08:14] Dave Reilly
It is on your end because we're here in the notifications and stuff like that.
[0:08:23] Rebecca Hargraves
If this isn't work, we're probably going to have to restart the stream.
[0:08:26] Dave Reilly
Yeah, it'll be fine. It'll be okay.
[0:08:30] Rebecca Hargraves
But you kind of have like a generic guy look going on.
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[0:08:33] Dave Reilly
Have you ever met anybody?
[0:08:34] Rebecca Hargraves
This has happened to me a few times where I meet somebody and they're
[0:08:38] Dave Reilly
like visibly disappointed. So try logging out and logging back in again. And then when you get in, just
immediately start talking. I can't tell if he's trying to talk to us. He can hear us. You can shake your
head, right? If you hear us. Yeah. So he can hear us. Yeah. I feel better about this because the R-Vall
and Nick Fuentes interview had like the worst technical problems.
[0:09:06] Rebecca Hargraves
And it just happens sometimes.
[0:09:08] Dave Reilly
I'm not too concerned about it.
[0:09:09] Rebecca Hargraves
I am worried that we're not going to be able to talk to him.
[0:09:11] Dave Reilly
I've got like a million questions. Yeah, I know. I don't know how to understand it. It was working great
when we were in the, as soon as I hit live. Most sod just does not want us to talk to Mr. Turning.
[0:09:23] Rebecca Hargraves
There's it.
[0:09:24] Dave Reilly
Oh.
[0:09:25] Rebecca Hargraves
Had this happened before. Yeah.
[0:09:28] Cameron M
We got it.
[0:09:29] Rebecca Hargraves
Welcome to the show. Let's jump right in. Oh my. What a great start. We got it. Thank you. It's okay. I
got a story in about myself, which is how I like.
[0:09:42] Dave Reilly
I like to start every interview with a decorated veteran.
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[0:09:47] Rebecca Hargraves
So that's just how we are over the backlash. Self-important. Self-important, Mr. Turning. Thank you so
much for joining us. Let's jump right into the June 7th event.
[0:10:00] Dave Reilly
So before the attack, did you or any crew members notice any unusual reconnaissance activity by
Israeli forces? We did, Rebecca.
[0:10:15] Rebecca Hargraves
We actually, what we did, we left Africa at full speed. That was our normal steaming area on the west
coast of Africa. They said, get out of the way right now. We were only there about a few hours and they
said, get out of the way you got to leave.
[0:10:34] Cameron M
And you got to leave now.
[0:10:35] Rebecca Hargraves
If you have to leave anybody, leave them. We get out there. So we got everybody back on board.
[0:10:41] Dave Reilly
We had full steam to road to Spain, picked up three marine linguists.
[0:10:48] Rebecca Hargraves
And one civilian linguist. He was a former Navy Sea NSA guy, CIA tape guy. He was a civilian aboard
our ship. We understood we were going into a war zone when we left road to Spain.
[0:11:08] Dave Reilly
At full speed, just fast as we could go.
[0:11:11] Rebecca Hargraves
And we got in the area off El Orish and the Sinai around that night, say probably two or three o'clock in
the morning. Immediately on the 7th, Israeli aircraft were circling our ship, surveilling our ship over and
over again. Our ship was clearly marked with American flag. USS Liberty on a stern GTR 5 on its hull
on both sides forward. And there was no mistaken identity. They identified this as American and friendly
on the 7th. Nothing happened that day, but Brecon. We felt very good that everything was going to go
right. But by the way, we, the captain requested destroyer escort is we're in a war zone. We are always
in international waters, but we're in a war zone. So we didn't know what was going to happen. On the
8th, they did it again. They circled our ship, circled our ship, circled our ship, taken pictures. We waved
with the pilots, they waved it out. They all had to star David on them. And so they knew who were going
many, many, many hours before we even got there. It was part of the government's plan we can get in
that later. But please go ahead and ask any questions you'd like, please.
[0:12:43] Dave Reilly
So walk us through the moment that you first realized that the ship was under attack.
[0:12:48] Rebecca Hargraves
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I mean, I'm sure it was so shocking.
[0:12:50] Dave Reilly
What did you see? What did you hear?
[0:12:52] Rebecca Hargraves
What was the reaction from the crew? Oh, boy. Well, I was up on the starboard gun mount. We just got
through with general quarters. And I was assistant on seeing leader in the forward repair party. I got a
friend of mine, David Skollack.
[0:13:10] Dave Reilly
He was a, I see him. And he took care of the internal communications of the ship.
[0:13:19] Rebecca Hargraves
The sound part, phones were working. He came up. The gun mount was, had a, a gun was made up
there. David Thompson, Alexander Thompson. And the captain was out on the bridge. I saw him and
said, boys, have better get out of here. Because he was in no sense type of guy. You don't linger
around. You're either working or you're in your workspace or doing something. But you're not standing
around.
[0:13:47] Dave Reilly
So I left about, it took me 15 to 30 seconds to get to my workstation.
[0:13:53] Rebecca Hargraves
The attack started. Old hell broke loose. It was unbelievable. Now, I don't want you to have to talk to
talk too much about, about the carnage that you saw. I've heard your accounts on watching your friends
die. But I think it's important for people to recognize what, what a horrific event this was. And the
horrible things that you saw and the, just the massacre.
[0:14:22] Dave Reilly
171 people just terribly injured and the people that were immediately killed. And they were your, they
were your brothers.
[0:14:29] Rebecca Hargraves
Can you talk a little bit about that if you're comfortable? Sure. Absolutely. I'm comfortable with it. I've
been doing this a long time. I know the story pretty well. I go, it never leaves me.
[0:14:43] Dave Reilly
It goes over and over in my head. And there's a reason for that. Yeah, I saw my brothers get murdered
in cold blood by the Zionist state of Israel.
[0:15:00] Rebecca Hargraves
They used unmarked jet aircraft, missteer and mirage jets. Not just two jets, but 30 sorties of jets firing
at us and firing at us and firing at us. This went on for about 25 minutes. We thought it was over. It
wasn't. They dropped napalm on our ship during the air attack and everything else they could throw at
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us. Terry held the party. They got a message out, rock star, rock star under attack by unknown,
unknown jet aircraft.
[0:15:33] Dave Reilly
And we didn't know who was attacking us either.
[0:15:37] Rebecca Hargraves
So rescue aircraft was coming from the USS Saratoga to come help us. And Mached America on the
line says, return those jets back to base. Do not help liberty.
[0:15:52] Dave Reilly
Do not help liberty.
[0:15:54] Cameron M
Return to base.
[0:15:55] Dave Reilly
And they did.
[0:15:58] Rebecca Hargraves
Moments after that. Yeah, there's there's most shape right there.
[0:16:04] Dave Reilly
Good guy.
[0:16:06] Rebecca Hargraves
Return to base. And then we had the captain. He said about the torpedo, the torpedo boats coming up
on us and we saw them. And we didn't know exactly what was going on, but they had to start David on
them. So we thought they were coming to help us, but no, they were coming there to murder us all.
They were going to murder us all. That's what they wanted. The attack lies in for another hour and a
half. And no help ever came to us. They left us out there alone. Our own government set us up. He
slaughtered by the Zionist state of Israel. Sink us and get us into World War III. That was the whole
plan.
[0:16:48] Dave Reilly
But what they didn't figure on is an old World War II victory whole ship that took the mighty force of the
idea of everything they could throw at us. And they couldn't sink that old World War II ship. They
couldn't sink it if we had got on our side.
[0:17:03] Rebecca Hargraves
You know, he's been on our side every minute.
[0:17:05] Dave Reilly
And that's why I do these things.
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[0:17:07] Rebecca Hargraves
My brothers didn't die in vain. They were murdered and everybody needs to know it. They don't have a
voice, but I do.
[0:17:17] Dave Reilly
And I'm going to speak as long as I'm alive.
[0:17:19] Rebecca Hargraves
I'm pushing 79 now. And I'm going to keep on speaking. Good for you as you should.
[0:17:24] Dave Reilly
We need these conversations for posterity. People need to know that they cannot trust the United
States government.
[0:17:30] Rebecca Hargraves
And they definitely can't trust Israel's government. I've heard people push back on you like you don't
know that this wasn't friendly fire. Let's talk a little bit now about how you know that this attack was
deliberate, particularly as it pertains to LBJ. Absolutely. Well, LBJ.
[0:17:52] Dave Reilly
He had people going into his white house.
[0:18:00] Rebecca Hargraves
And they were all Jewish diplomats or people that had influence over him. No Arab diplomats were
allowed to talk to him, just the Israelis.
[0:18:19] Dave Reilly
So it came to be.
[0:18:26] Rebecca Hargraves
He approved the attack.
[0:18:29] Dave Reilly
We were probably set up a year in advance and didn't know it.
[0:18:32] Rebecca Hargraves
We were dead men walking a year before that didn't even know it. But the plan got soured up by us not
sinking to tell the truth. And I'm sure the idea after still thinking about that, the war crimes they
committed on us. We shot our only three life rafts out of the water. All we're going to do is put our most
seriously wounded in there. So they have a chance at life. They wouldn't allow that. They shot the
damn light boats out of the water. They shot two out of the water and took one aboard the boat as a
trophy of the kill. Good lord.
[0:19:12] Dave Reilly
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Can you share some details about the orders given to US aircraft carriers nearby?
[0:19:18] Rebecca Hargraves
And why or how help was delayed or recalled? Yeah, well, again, this message went out all over the
world. Now you got to remember all of our antennas were taken out except one.
[0:19:32] Dave Reilly
Because they were all hit by heat-seeking missiles because they were all tuning.
[0:19:37] Rebecca Hargraves
All the antennas were tuning. And they hit them all except one that Terry how the Bordea took off
because it wasn't tuning. He took it off line. They didn't hit it. Terragiously, he ran up a long wire to the
antenna and the message went out. It was heard as far as way as Vietnam. Rockstar rockstar under
attack under attack by a known Jared aircraft. LBGA gets on the phone and this this was heard
everywhere. Do not help to liberty. Do not help liberty return to base. I will not embarrass my ally Israel.
[0:20:20] Dave Reilly
How did he know was attacking is that we didn't. So that's how I know we were set up.
[0:20:26] Rebecca Hargraves
Absolutely.
[0:20:28] Dave Reilly
So you said that it was an old World War II vessel. So what was the condition of the ship? I mean, how
were you guys able to keep it afloat? Well, the ship, good, good question Rebecca.
[0:20:38] Rebecca Hargraves
The ship was refurbished in Bramerton, Washington. And it was commissioned in 1964 as a. It was a
brand. They made it a brand new ship.
[0:20:52] Dave Reilly
All communications, a spy ship.
[0:20:54] Rebecca Hargraves
It had everything. The ship was brand new and every, every respect. But it was still an over a World
War II cargo ship. And they called them one wayers.
[0:21:06] Dave Reilly
You probably see them getting torpedoed and victory is seeing things like that.
[0:21:10] Rebecca Hargraves
One torpedo and they sunk like a rock. Not our ship, but it was.
[0:21:16] Dave Reilly
We had no defense, our 450 caliber machines were taken out on the first pass.
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[0:21:21] Rebecca Hargraves
Every antenna was taken out except one we got the word out.
[0:21:26] Dave Reilly
And you know, this attack lasted two hours and they sent troop carrying helicopters over to finish this
off.
[0:21:34] Rebecca Hargraves
It's just so unbelievable.
[0:21:39] Dave Reilly
And what about the wounded and the survivors? I heard your account that they basically told you that if
you spoke about this, that you would be killed and, you know, and veiled, veiled tones. But some of you
did and it took you 18 years, but you did too.
[0:21:57] Rebecca Hargraves
It was an incredible act of bravery.
[0:21:59] Dave Reilly
So can you talk a little bit about the aftermath and the US government's response,
[0:22:04] Rebecca Hargraves
how that affected the survivors.
[0:22:06] Dave Reilly
And we can get into the US Navy inquiry a little bit. I'm under the impression that it only lasted seven
days, an inquiry of this magnitude should last at least a year.
[0:22:17] Rebecca Hargraves
Absolutely. Yeah, we were ordered by our government to shut up. Admiral Isaac kidneys, underling
Captain Ward Boston,
[0:22:28] Dave Reilly
which changed the story.
[0:22:30] Rebecca Hargraves
Said we both knew it was a deliberate attack, but we were ordered not to say anything about it. So they
didn't, but Boston finally did before he died. He says at the Boston Declaration, it's on our website. And
so it all came out, but everything we say or do doesn't make any difference because the government
has bought and paid for by the Zionist state. Oh, two thirds of the Congress are bought and paid for by
APAC, ADL, all of them are other influencers. And it's not America first, it's Israel first.
[0:23:10] Dave Reilly
And that was shown in 1967.
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[0:23:13] Rebecca Hargraves
Now, if our ship goes down like they planned on it, World War III was going to begin. And millions of
lives were probably spared because our ship didn't sink.
[0:23:26] Dave Reilly
Oh, by the grace of God, but being denied by our own government for so many years,
[0:23:31] Rebecca Hargraves
yeah, I didn't speak about it.
[0:23:33] Dave Reilly
I met my second wife after 18 years and I read an article in a paper
[0:23:37] Rebecca Hargraves
called Rocky Mountain News, Stan White put out. He's a master chief, E9 spy, good friend of mine.
He's passed on now, but he wrote an article. I read it and I haven't shut up since.
[0:23:51] Dave Reilly
That's been 42 years ago.
[0:23:54] Rebecca Hargraves
I've been doing this. Well, never shut up. Never shut up.
[0:23:58] Dave Reilly
No, it's big. I've got kind of a weird question, not necessarily about the attack itself, but I was talking
with some friends recently. And they were mentioning that, you know, we see these all the time, right?
You see these like war plaques for like the Vietnam War for 9-11, whatever. You know, in like your local
park, right? They have the little veterans area, you know. I've heard that there's a way to get a USS
Liberty Memorial, as long as I guess what is it local legislators. I don't know if they have to pass a
resolution or if you get people to pay for it. Can you explain that? Like, let's say that there's a town out
there that knows about the Liberty that doesn't want to forget it, that wants to be able to have like a
memorial or something like that. Is that something like the USS Liberty Veterans Association can help
with? And like, can you talk about the mechanics of that?
[0:25:02] Rebecca Hargraves
Absolutely. A good question to you, David.
[0:25:05] Dave Reilly
We do have a USS Liberty Memorial.
[0:25:08] Rebecca Hargraves
I'll tell you this story behind that. It started right here in this little town, a city-rich Colorado. Kathy
Maskell is a monument maker. And I saw she's making monuments.
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[0:25:20] Dave Reilly
This is the beginning of her when she started doing this.
[0:25:23] Rebecca Hargraves
About Vietnam, World War I, World War II, and on and on. I said, what do you think about doing a USS
Liberty Memorial?
[0:25:35] Dave Reilly
But I must warn you, you might get in trouble for it.
[0:25:39] Rebecca Hargraves
There it is. There it is. And yeah, the Navy didn't want it. That's Kathy there, and another friend.
[0:25:50] Dave Reilly
And they didn't want it. The Navy didn't want it.
[0:25:56] Rebecca Hargraves
The Cold War Museum didn't want it.
[0:25:59] Dave Reilly
Nobody had national security agencies didn't want it. Nobody wanted it.
[0:26:03] Rebecca Hargraves
So we finally found a spot at post-40809 in Tidewater, Virginia
[0:26:10] Dave Reilly
that decided to take it.
[0:26:12] Rebecca Hargraves
And that's where it's at right now.
[0:26:16] Dave Reilly
It belongs in D.C.
[0:26:18] Rebecca Hargraves
It's where it really belongs. And I'm hoping someday that might happen. There's things in motion right
now that just might make that happen. But it's all from private donors, people that want to help us
[0:26:34] Dave Reilly
and protect our one person. And he's got a foundation.
[0:26:41] Rebecca Hargraves
He wants to put Kathy's monuments all over the country in Washington, D.C.
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[0:26:49] Dave Reilly
He wants two on the west coast and two on the east coast.
[0:26:55] Rebecca Hargraves
And with all her monuments in the USS Liberty Monument, that monument you saw there, I prefer it.
[0:27:01] Dave Reilly
Go to Washington, D.C.
[0:27:04] Rebecca Hargraves
We'll buy the land or they will. Money is not an object. See how beautiful it is. It's sick over six feet tall. It
costs over $150,000 in the. The marble was donated by Rocky Mountain Stone Query. It gave us some
marble for all over all of her monuments. So a lot of heart and soul. I worked on it with her for eight
months so it was completed. And then we had to find a home for it. But to be turned down again by our
government, just a simple, simple, beautiful monument in honor of the 34 men that didn't have a chance
at life.
[0:27:50] Dave Reilly
These are young men. And these are 19, 20, 21 year old kids.
[0:27:54] Rebecca Hargraves
I was only 20 at the time. And never gone. I mean, never gone. I'm a blank of nine. 34 of them, brutally
slaughtered, blown the bits, a ship ruined over 821 Rocky Cannon holes in it. Napalm burning is up.
5,000 armor piercing bullets or more in it. A 40 foot by 40 foot hole in it. Everything they could do to
destroy that ship they tried
[0:28:24] Dave Reilly
and they couldn't do it. We, we get Israel's ass.
[0:28:28] Rebecca Hargraves
We get the mighty IDF's ass. It didn't fire a shot. They say one shot was fired off the strawberry gun
mount by Larkin. And whether it was cooked off or went off, it didn't make any difference. We still kicked
their ass and they, they're still scratching their heads over there. You guys must have been so
crestfallen when the realization hits you about the betrayal from our own government. Especially as, as
servicemen, that just must have been such a shock and a, and world shattering. So what advice would
you give to current US servicemen about loyalty about questioning orders
[0:29:08] Dave Reilly
and how they should proceed if they're already in the US military?
[0:29:13] Rebecca Hargraves
You know, that, that's another good question, Rebecca.
[0:29:18] Dave Reilly
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To question authority becomes,
[0:29:22] Rebecca Hargraves
it's a double edged sword. You can get you a lot of trouble, or it can possibly help. But we question
authority about why you love Israel, get by with this. Why do you love me kill our ship, my son? How
come so many war crimes put on us?
[0:29:40] Dave Reilly
And you won't do anything about it.
[0:29:42] Rebecca Hargraves
You, you threat this with fines of death.
[0:29:44] Dave Reilly
If he spoke to anybody about it, especially the news media.
[0:29:49] Rebecca Hargraves
You know, so that's what you expect. The government had, listen, Israel got more money for murdering
Americans on the high seas and never gotten their entire life.
[0:30:00] Dave Reilly
Since 1948,
[0:30:02] Rebecca Hargraves
and they're even getting more now for murdering Americans on the high seas and attending on what
they're doing in Gaza,
[0:30:08] Dave Reilly
which I think is one of the most
[0:30:11] Rebecca Hargraves
sexting, devastating things I've ever seen in my life.
[0:30:14] Dave Reilly
The US has to be, should be a reminder,
[0:30:17] Rebecca Hargraves
if they can murder Americans on the high seas,
[0:30:20] Dave Reilly
but they can get by with anything.
[0:30:22] Rebecca Hargraves
And they're doing it right now with the help
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[0:30:24] Dave Reilly
of our US government paying for it.
[0:30:26] Rebecca Hargraves
And they paid for us to try to sink us. Yep. All those planes and everything were bought
[0:30:31] Dave Reilly
by the US government to sink us.
[0:30:35] Rebecca Hargraves
And they're still getting by with my advice to service members. Don't don't go die and fight for Israel,
whatever you do.
[0:30:45] Dave Reilly
Amen.
[0:30:46] Rebecca Hargraves
That is the best possible advice. Yes, because I don't think that I think a lot of young men especially are
looking for adventure
[0:30:54] Dave Reilly
or they don't know what to do with their lives
[0:30:56] Rebecca Hargraves
and they don't really understand the international picture and what their lives are worth to the American
government,
[0:31:02] Dave Reilly
which is nothing. Absolutely.
[0:31:04] Rebecca Hargraves
They don't care about you at all. Yeah. You are a body for Israel. Yeah. And that they should know
what they're fighting for. So you mentioned the media.
[0:31:13] Dave Reilly
How have you and other survivors been treated by the media? We know how you've been treated by
the government. But has any media come to back you?
[0:31:24] Rebecca Hargraves
Social media. That is a blessing. Like you guys in your wonderful show, it's great. We have a lot of
different people. Of course, Candace Owens and Jake Shields, Clayton Morris, Ian Carroll. Owens
from... What is it? Info Wars.
[0:31:55] Dave Reilly
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I mean, there's so many of them.
[0:31:57] Rebecca Hargraves
Yeah, I can't remember a wall.
[0:31:59] Dave Reilly
There was also not to interrupt you, but there was also... Where do I have it? I literally just had it up.
Where did it go? Here it is. For those that haven't taken the full deep dive. I mean, like for sure the
interviews with the in Carroll, you know, they're great. And you did a stand down at the old state saloon
[0:32:18] Cameron M
where you kind of went over everything,
[0:32:20] Dave Reilly
which was another wonderful thing and big thanks, big hat tip to Mike Fitzpatrick for having you on.
[0:32:26] Cameron M
But there was a documentary that was released about five years ago, maybe,
[0:32:31] Dave Reilly
called Sacrificing Liberty. It's a four episode docuseries made by a couple of friends of mine
[0:32:41] Cameron M
back when they were at True News or whatever. And I remember watching that.
[0:32:47] Dave Reilly
And that has absolutely everything in it. It's like four hours long, every detail. They went through with
like 3D models and reconstructed the attack, the whole nine yards. So for anybody that wants like the
fullest deep dive possible,
[0:33:02] Cameron M
I can't recommend that documentary enough. Anyway, sorry. It didn't mean to interrupt.
[0:33:07] Dave Reilly
No, no.
[0:33:08] Rebecca Hargraves
Listen, Kudos for the documentary. I'll tell you that. It's the finest one that's ever done. We've had
several, but loss of liberty. I was a co-producer on it.
[0:33:20] Dave Reilly
It's a good one too.
[0:33:21] Rebecca Hargraves
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And I was a year ahead. One, you know, the day is will attack the American. And several others, BBC
had a couple. But Sacrificing Liberty goes into the deep dive.
[0:33:33] Dave Reilly
As you said, Davis, it's four hours long.
[0:33:37] Rebecca Hargraves
It's very intense. Very heartbreaking. But you know, a lot of those guys that were in that dive, were in
that documentary or dead now. You know, they're dead. We've had 045, dying the last month and a
half or so.
[0:33:55] Dave Reilly
So it's becoming, we're all thinning out.
[0:34:01] Rebecca Hargraves
But you know, until my dying breath and the rest of the crew, I got to say, but say this about the crew.
[0:34:07] Dave Reilly
They're the most gallant bunch of people, wonderful, wonderful heroes. They deserve all the kiddos
they can get. And they've been treated like garbage.
[0:34:17] Rebecca Hargraves
They've been spitting the face by our own government. And it is will hate this with a passion.
[0:34:22] Dave Reilly
They certainly hate me.
[0:34:24] Rebecca Hargraves
I'm on the internet as a.
[0:34:28] Cameron M
Not see you hate or drunk. Everything you can call me.
[0:34:34] Rebecca Hargraves
I'm sure they'll figure out more words. But if you're not being called those things,
[0:34:39] Dave Reilly
are you even doing anything important? They don't like me.
[0:34:45] Rebecca Hargraves
What interactions have you had with? Is really official since the attack, if any? Nothing but lies. There
was a book written, The Liberty Instance by AJ Crystal. He's passed on. He was a former bankruptcy
judge.
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[0:35:02] Dave Reilly
I tried to confront him in this estate department.
[0:35:07] Rebecca Hargraves
He was on a panel along with a good friend of mine, author of Depuzzle Palace. And they dared. Oh,
the other one. I can't remember it right now. Body of secrets. The James Bamford. And that's where
they read the. The report from board Boston. But they were supposed to let me speak.
[0:35:31] Dave Reilly
There was only two of us there.
[0:35:33] Rebecca Hargraves
I got up to speak. Mike Susser, the moderator of the state department there. Cut me off. I would love to
speak when we were promised I would be. So that's how we get treated by Israel. There are four Israeli
apologies on there.
[0:35:47] Dave Reilly
Michael Lauren, AJ Crystal and one or two more.
[0:35:51] Rebecca Hargraves
I can't remember their names. I do care. Well, Susser was one of them. The moderator.
[0:35:56] Dave Reilly
He was completely on their side.
[0:35:57] Rebecca Hargraves
So I had so many people against me. It was unreal.
[0:36:00] Dave Reilly
But as expected, I mean, you guys have faced so much backlash for speaking out against it. It is such a
brave thing that you're doing. So in your book, erasing the Liberty, you discuss key revelations. If you
could give the most important things that people generally don't know about this attack that you think
that they need to know.
[0:36:22] Rebecca Hargraves
Because I like to trust our audience. They like our long form content. But every once in a while, I want
to be like, you need to know these things about this event. And I know you talked about that in your
book.
[0:36:33] Dave Reilly
So what do you think? What are the most important things about the destruction of the USS Liberty that
the general public is not aware of?
[0:36:42] Rebecca Hargraves
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I think that the really deep dive into that Rebecca, the most important things,
[0:36:51] Dave Reilly
is what governments can do to the Americans.
[0:37:03] Rebecca Hargraves
I don't care if they're in the service or out, when they attacked our ship,
[0:37:07] Dave Reilly
they didn't just attack our ship, they attacked everybody, everybody in America.
[0:37:12] Rebecca Hargraves
A flagged American ship being attacked by a foreign government. An aircraft recalled by our own
government, which has never happened in history. Never happened in history of ship being an attack.
And rescue aircraft for help was recalled.
[0:37:31] Dave Reilly
Letters sink is basically what it was.
[0:37:33] Rebecca Hargraves
Hope it does sink. And leaving us out there for 17 hours with no help and help is only 40 minutes away.
I mean, how do you explain that?
[0:37:46] Dave Reilly
They wanted us all dead, but we didn't go that route by the grace of God again.
[0:37:51] Rebecca Hargraves
They got old glory goes to God. No doubt about that. I'll always believe that as long as I live. That's why
I'm still here. That's why I'm talking. I think he gave me a strong backbone or strong voice to keep on
doing what I'm doing. But the crux of it is don't believe everything your government says. That's the
whole deal.
[0:38:16] Dave Reilly
How has your faith helped you deal with the trauma of the attack and everything you've been up against
[0:38:23] Rebecca Hargraves
with the federal government, with the media? How have you used your faith to deal with that? I use it as
actually it's not even a crush or anything like that. It's just an upbeat feeling that, you know, hey, I'm
here out here doing what I can and I'm doing the Lord's work because he doesn't like. He doesn't like
what's going on the world. I'm sure. And the day of reckoning will come. But I believe. My faith and
believe me, I don't I don't go to church. I did my own praying because all the churches around here,
they teach you that Zionist Christians are the only way to go. And I'm not going that route. I'm not going
to go to church and have some preacher tell me I got to get on my knees to the Zionist state of Israel.
I'm not doing it. Traditional Catholicism is the way to go.
[0:39:21] Dave Reilly
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And I was going to actually ask that because in this book, Holocaust on the high seas, which, you know,
let me show you there, Holocaust on the high seas. It's actually, it's available on Amazon.com. It's just
$15 came out in 2020. It's got all kinds of great stuff in here. It's got, you know, photos. Let me see if I
can show this. It's got, you know, photos of the ship with the bullet holes riddling the side. You know,
because people all the time they want to deny that this event actually happened, you know. But in it, I
was, I was reading it to kind of refresh myself before you came on. And something struck me for the
first time that I hadn't, that I hadn't realized you were raised Catholic.
[0:40:06] Rebecca Hargraves
I was. What?
[0:40:08] Dave Reilly
So yeah, you've got to, you've got to come to tradition. You got to come back to the Latin mass
because it is, it is insidious. What has happened in this country? And also in the Catholic Church,
there's been this growing influence of Zionism within Catholicism. We're seeing it playing out. There's
this whole situation right now at life site news where they're going after the leadership there for writing
articles critical of Zionism in Israel. And it is such a shame. But, you know, generally speaking, if you
find yourself at a place that does the old Latin mass, they make no bones about it. Right. And I think
we're seeing a massive resurgence in faith because people are being bombarded with evil.
[0:40:52] Rebecca Hargraves
And then the recognition that evil exists leads them to believe that that that corollary that God can exist,
that goodness can exist.
[0:41:01] Dave Reilly
And any way that you come to the faith is probably a good one. But no, but, I mean, yeah, if you could
please talk about your faith and how your faith kind of has sustained you in the wake of this because,
you know, there's that quote right from Christ himself if they hated you. It's because they hated me first.
And, you know, one of my favorite passages is from the book of Syracch, chapter 51. And it talks about,
oh Lord, please save me from a slanderous tongue and from lying mouths, blah, blah, blah. And so the
slander is so damaging to the human spirit. I can't imagine what you've dealt with, especially after the
trauma of what you have seen.
[0:41:40] Rebecca Hargraves
Absolutely. Yeah, I think it's a big part. I'll tell you a good friend of mine and really a dear friend is Pastor
Chuck Baldwin, Liberty Fellowship. Calisbel Montana, great guy. Great guy. So is Rick Wiles, true
news.
[0:42:01] Dave Reilly
I think Rick has taken a break from so many days doing the broadcast every day, but he's still doing
pretty good.
[0:42:08] Rebecca Hargraves
He, of course, he, he was a promoter, the man that paid for sacrificing liberty.
[0:42:17] Dave Reilly
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You know, I might add, and this is just a side note.
[0:42:23] Rebecca Hargraves
Both books, did you held up a race in the Liberty and Holocaust on the side? A high seas. Look on the
back and see who publishes it.
[0:42:32] Dave Reilly
It says rock star publishing.
[0:42:34] Rebecca Hargraves
Okay. Rock star or money tree publishing. That is Dave Gary.
[0:42:41] Dave Reilly
Yeah. And he's been collecting money off that book.
[0:42:46] Rebecca Hargraves
I don't get a dime.
[0:42:47] Dave Reilly
Oh no.
[0:42:48] Rebecca Hargraves
Yeah. He's been doing that for years and years and years. What? It never minds. So don't go. My story.
Don't go by this then. Don't buy it.
[0:42:58] Dave Reilly
Yeah. I think Dave actually gave me this book. I saw him last summer and he gave me the copy. But
okay, never mind. What, what books do you actually get royalties from? Because we'd like to promote
that.
[0:43:09] Rebecca Hargraves
Well, I don't, I don't get royalties off of any books.
[0:43:15] Dave Reilly
I mean, I was supposed to with Dave, but that was.
[0:43:18] Rebecca Hargraves
I got snookered. He out. Fox me. And I don't, I'd never get a contract with him. Why? I didn't contract
with him. I just trusted his word. No. But his word is, is not worth nothing. Why is our side like this?
[0:43:33] Dave Reilly
Why do we do this to ourselves? Greed. I guess. But.
[0:43:38] Rebecca Hargraves
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Yeah. Great. Good point, Rebecca. But the other, the other book I remember would recommend would
be. A book by Philip Nelson.
[0:43:49] Dave Reilly
Remember the Liberty.
[0:43:50] Rebecca Hargraves
I'm a co-author on it with. When my dear ship makes wrong, Google, he's just passed away a few
weeks ago.
[0:43:56] Dave Reilly
In Ernie Gallo, he was, they were both spies.
[0:43:59] Rebecca Hargraves
There it is right there. A very good book.
[0:44:03] Dave Reilly
It's well written and.
[0:44:08] Rebecca Hargraves
Unfortunately, Philip Nelson, he passed away too. He was at my home. And left. And a couple of weeks
later, he was gone. Oh, man. So I mean, everybody's, everybody's moving on. I mean, that's the way
life is, but. You know, yeah, I was not happy with Dave. I mean. He likes to sue people. Let.
[0:44:32] Dave Reilly
Let him try to sue me for telling the truth.
[0:44:35] Rebecca Hargraves
He said it was going to sue me.
[0:44:39] Cameron M
That's not happy.
[0:44:40] Dave Reilly
Oh, no. I didn't know it. I was going to say not some little drama, I guess I'm folding here.
[0:44:46] Rebecca Hargraves
Phil, what are your thoughts?
[0:44:48] Dave Reilly
I mean, I know you mentioned it a little bit before, but just, you know, as someone, you know, you have
a purple heart. You shed blood for this country. You've gone through unspeakable things. What are
your thoughts on the current Trump administration on what's been happening in Gaza? And just the
general situation of politics, I guess, in America at this point, what are your thoughts?
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[0:45:20] Rebecca Hargraves
Well, I guess I'd be sadness, to be honest with you. What we're seeing in living color, I mean, you don't
see it on national media.
[0:45:36] Dave Reilly
You don't see it there.
[0:45:37] Rebecca Hargraves
You see it on social media.
[0:45:39] Dave Reilly
But the pictures, the carnies, the starvation, the killing is something I can't hardly imagine.
[0:45:50] Rebecca Hargraves
I just can't imagine being bombarded, bombarded all day, all night, starved to death, and our
government's paying for it. Our government's paying is what to do it. For Trump to do that, that's a sin.
There you go. Those are just horrific, horrific. And that's a mortal sin.
[0:46:16] Dave Reilly
That's something you can't be forgiven for.
[0:46:20] Rebecca Hargraves
And why are countries doing that? The politicians don't mind. Two-thirds of them are all bought off by
APAC anyway. No matter what Trump does, they're going to give them money. You know, here you got
Tom Massey and Marjorie Tategrain, they're biting at the bit to tell the truth. And yeah, there you go.
You guys are sharper than 10 tax. Oh, we're on APAC all the time. That is something positive that can
come out of this, is that we've all kind of found each other after being slandered by the ADL.
[0:47:02] Dave Reilly
The SPLC, we, I think that they have done themselves a disservice by doing this so widely because
now we basically have our own community and infrastructure. Yeah, no, it's so funny, too. It's like
anytime I see the ADL come out with like a list of people. By the way, I don't know if we mentioned this
or not, but last weekend, Grock placed me as the 15th most anti-Semitic account on Twitter.
[0:47:23] Rebecca Hargraves
Do you know how I know this list is bullshit?
[0:47:26] Dave Reilly
Why?
[0:47:27] Rebecca Hargraves
Because I am not on it. Because Laura Lumer is on it.
[0:47:32] Dave Reilly
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Laura Lumer is on it. But still, the fact that Grock gave that responsibility.
[0:47:35] Rebecca Hargraves
So don't shoot your own horn, mister. I'm just, I've got to at least be in the top 100.
[0:47:40] Dave Reilly
No way.
[0:47:41] Rebecca Hargraves
In the real list. I asked him to list the top 100. I wasn't on that one either. Cheese.
[0:47:45] Dave Reilly
So the list is meaningless. But anyway, the point is that, you know, we know this now. We know about
this now that they do this slander. They call you an anti-Semite or whatever other word. A Jew Hater is
the new thing, right? Because that anti-Semite is kind of lost its sting. Right. They've overused it so
much. So now they've gone to, oh, you're a Jew Hater. Okay, okay. But, you know, back in the 80s, the
70s, the 80s, this is something that people had no earthly idea about. And we've got a little clip here.
And I'm sure that, you know, you dealt with this back then. But this whole thing, this whole process of
calling people names for being critical of Israel, is according to former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky,
basically an intelligence operation, a disinformation campaign that the Mossad is waged. So let's take a
look at what Victor Ostrovsky says about these kinds of allegations. Dude, because I used to ask them
to do it.
[0:48:52] Cameron M
I mean, when I was in the Mossad, then we had a guy that gave us problems in the US.
[0:48:56] Dave Reilly
And he was speaking out. And he was talking like Pete Poff once and said,
[0:49:01] Cameron M
Israel is bombing Lebanon with poster bombs.
[0:49:04] Dave Reilly
We say, hey, who's that guy?
[0:49:07] Rebecca Hargraves
You know, Pete McCuckney needs to call it.
[0:49:10] Dave Reilly
Yeah.
[0:49:12] Rebecca Hargraves
Which is Pete the Cockroach.
[0:49:14] Cameron M
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Because he makes a lot of noise and you can't get rid of him.
[0:49:19] Rebecca Hargraves
So what you do is you get in touch with a guy in the station in New York,
[0:49:24] Dave Reilly
or in the station in Washington, and you say, tell the guys at Gallagher to label them.
[0:49:30] Cameron M
And of course the campaign starts before you know it, the guys label.
[0:49:33] Dave Reilly
And he's an anti-seller. Because that's what we say he is.
[0:49:40] Rebecca Hargraves
And that's one thing you cannot watch.
[0:49:42] Dave Reilly
Now, it changed me as a Jew to tell you that.
[0:49:47] Rebecca Hargraves
But that's the fact. And it's wrong. Good Lord. Well, I think we've all been labeled fill certainly the most
effectively. Yes. We were talking before we went live.
[0:50:00] Dave Reilly
You did this debate with, what was his name again? Cam. Cam maybe.
[0:50:05] Rebecca Hargraves
And I was watching it and I'm just yelling at my phone. Because the way that he presented things was
so dishonest.
[0:50:13] Dave Reilly
And I was thinking who is paying him? And so I went to the comments just thinking that everybody
would say
[0:50:18] Rebecca Hargraves
that Cam got eviscerated. And they were all supportive. Like the survivors first-hand account is totally
meaningless.
[0:50:27] Dave Reilly
Because somebody came with a bunch of bullet points. And it was just shocking to me that anybody
can listen to your story
[0:50:36] Rebecca Hargraves
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and remain skeptical.
[0:50:37] Dave Reilly
Like you don't know what happened even though you were there.
[0:50:41] Rebecca Hargraves
Well, very true. I knew when he rattled up a thousand questions at once that this wasn't going to go
well. You know, I can handle one or two at a time. That's it. But no, he tried to command the area. And
the moderator wasn't that good either. You know, he didn't really. I gave him some bullet points that I
showed him to put up.
[0:51:12] Dave Reilly
He wouldn't do it.
[0:51:13] Rebecca Hargraves
And I thought that was kind of chicken shit. But they did it anyway. You know, talk about labeling, you
know, like Candace Owens. They labeled her and I sent him out of the year. And all this other stuff. And
we all get that. But the reason it is because you're over the target. You're pissing them off.
[0:51:35] Dave Reilly
And they can't stand it. And you know, the truth.
[0:51:38] Rebecca Hargraves
The truth will set you free. There's no doubt about it. And the truth about the U.S. has liberty. Rebecca
and Dave will break the back of the Zionist state.
[0:51:48] Dave Reilly
It's the truth of the soul.
[0:51:51] Rebecca Hargraves
It will break the back of the Zionist state. The control they have in this country. Murdering Americans on
the high seas with the help of our own government. We'll bust the brackets of both of them. Stop this
A-PAC deal that controls our Congress. You either control America. American citizens. Not a foreign
government. And to call somebody, well, you call them Aniston, am I? How come they're so special?
Right. What would they've done for America? Absolutely nothing because it's billions of lives. Look at
these wars. First go for Afghanistan. All of them. Iraq war. All fought for Israel. Not for the United States.
I mean, go to 9-1-1. Go to the King David Hotel. Go to the U.S.S. Liberty. And on and on and on. If that
doesn't tell you all you need to know, and our government lets him do it, is a pretty sad commentary on
who runs our country. Oh, absolutely. I wonder if I should even ask this question because it's so far
fetched.
[0:52:57] Dave Reilly
But if a full investigation was finally conducted, and I think that at this point in time,
[0:53:04] Rebecca Hargraves
it certainly could be their survivors that have meticulously
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[0:53:09] Dave Reilly
recounted their stories, their still evidence. I think that they really could do a thorough investigation.
[0:53:17] Rebecca Hargraves
So what specific outcomes would you be looking for that would make you feel like there was some
justice in this matter? We would like the Congress to give us one afternoon. After 58 years, one
afternoon of justice. They can ask us any question. They can cross examinous, but they will not break
us. Because we were there. We saw it. We know what they did and we got all the evidence. That's what
they're afraid about. They're just waiting for us to die out, Rebecca. They want us to all die out. And I
think this is going to fade away.
[0:53:57] Dave Reilly
But you guys are young people.
[0:53:59] Rebecca Hargraves
You know, you're young. And it's not going to fade away with people like you. So thank God for social
media. And thank God for you guys. I'll tell you what an honor to be on your show, too. It's a blessing.
Anytime I get on there to tell the truth and remember the liberty. And also guys, please. If you got a few
dollars to spare. You know, US Liberty Veterans dot org. We're a small group of guys. We try to travel
to do things like this. At least I do a lot of traveling. But you know, since Liberty dot org. If you want to
buy trinkets, if you want to buy coins, if you want to buy hats, shirts, anything, please go there. And to
our site. You want to help us out. Listen, man, you guys are so far ahead of me. I can't believe it.
[0:54:50] Dave Reilly
I mean, I mean, come on.
[0:54:54] Rebecca Hargraves
The computer computers is something else. Thank God.
[0:54:58] Dave Reilly
But yeah, it looks like you've got books up here. There's a membership. What does a membership give
you, I guess?
[0:55:06] Rebecca Hargraves
It's 20 dollars a month for associate member.
[0:55:09] Dave Reilly
You get our newsletter and upcoming reunions and updates.
[0:55:13] Rebecca Hargraves
Thanks that are going on. And I'd like to go back to one thing. If we got in front of Congress, we want to
definitely want to address them. Why they haven't investigated war crimes.
[0:55:25] Dave Reilly
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Absolutely. And we want to address everything else.
[0:55:29] Rebecca Hargraves
Say it was a mistaken identity. Just say it was that.
[0:55:33] Dave Reilly
How about the war crimes they committed against American salism
[0:55:37] Rebecca Hargraves
rings on the high seas? What about that? I think we all know the answer to that.
[0:55:43] Dave Reilly
They'll never say it.
[0:55:44] Rebecca Hargraves
We'll never hear them say it. But the fact that people are asking the question, even online, that's very
powerful. It's very meaningful.
[0:55:52] Dave Reilly
So what message would you have for younger generations
[0:55:55] Rebecca Hargraves
about remembering the U.S. Liberty and why this is so important? My, for the younger generation, I'll
tell you what they are catching on, like wildfire. They're crazy. They are catching on like wildfire.
[0:56:11] Dave Reilly
And they're energetic about what they're learning,
[0:56:14] Rebecca Hargraves
what they've been taught, what they haven't been taught. I don't know if you've heard of Brett Pike. He's
an author and he's a school teacher and he has a deal online. But we're trying to get a book put
together. Children's book about the U.S.S. story where they can learn at a small age about what really
happened, not with all the graphics, but how the government works.
[0:56:43] Dave Reilly
And that's our main deal.
[0:56:45] Rebecca Hargraves
The young people are the future of our country. But if he continues on the way it is with the old guard
holding their hand up to Israel and putting their hand behind their back when they took an oath to the
United States protecting the defendant from all foreign,
[0:57:02] Dave Reilly
more enemies foreign into messing, which they don't do, but the U.S.S. Liberty has.
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[0:57:07] Rebecca Hargraves
That all still stands with us. From all enemies foreign into messing, that includes the IDF, Israel, that
murdered my shipmates in cold blood.
[0:57:18] Dave Reilly
And that's just the way it is. What message would you have for Christian Zionists in particular,
especially the pastors of these Christian Zionist churches that get up on Sunday and call Israel our ally
that say that basically it's a sin to criticize them? What would your message be to the pastors and to the
people that go to those types of churches?
[0:57:51] Rebecca Hargraves
That's another good question. I was invited to talk at Zionist Christian church with his Israeli flag
outside. Jason Neely Pastor, the church in Cedar Delta, Colorado. I spoke to the congregation, very
large congregation. It was around right after October 7th. And I told the story, I told the story, and they
were interested. But the thing of it is they had a prayer service. They always have a prayer service for
Israel to take care of Gaza, Hamas, praying for Israel instead of praying for all lives. So the Christian
Zionists are being led down a path. They had to read the King James Version and figure it out a little bit
better with the new covenant. The old covenant was wiped out. And we don't, God didn't give anything
to those people after the new covenant because what they did. And so the Christian Zionists, God
loved them in their own way. They probably, he's been taught that way all their lives and can't figure it
out. But it's about time they did. They want to send their sons and daughters to die for Israel. Ask them
that question.
[0:59:29] Dave Reilly
And I did.
[0:59:30] Rebecca Hargraves
The answer was no. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I have less and less sympathy for people that have been
propagandized every day.
[0:59:39] Dave Reilly
Because especially with COVID and the things that we witnessed over the last few years in Gaza,
Ukraine. October 7 was a dividing line. Yes. I had a kind of, even, I don't know how to put it. Not like a
sympathetic view, but just like, well, you know, they just don't know. You know, this stuff has been
suppressed. I mean, we'd all gotten banned and deplatformed and demonized for so many years, you
know, talking about this kind of stuff. But after October 7th, the dam broke and you can't go anywhere
on the internet without seeing some other side of this conflict. And I think that to continue at this point to
be one of these, you know, flag waving pro-Israel types. It's evil. At this point, it's evil. I mean, you
know, when the New York Post for God's sakes, which is like, you know, a pretty Zionist magazine, or
newspaper, whatever, to be, you know, publishing these photos of these children starving. But it's
because he has a genetic condition.
[1:00:43] Rebecca Hargraves
Oh, come on.
[1:00:44] Dave Reilly
That's what it says on the New York Post. Oh, shit. Yeah.
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[1:00:48] Rebecca Hargraves
You got to be kidding me. It was right on that tweet that you pulled up.
[1:00:50] Dave Reilly
That's bro. I know.
[1:00:53] Rebecca Hargraves
I know. It's just unreal. I do think that we have some listener questions.
[1:00:58] Dave Reilly
We do have a couple. And please send in your questions for Phil Turning. We'll ask them all.
[1:01:02] Rebecca Hargraves
Go to the backlash.net slash super chat.
[1:01:08] Dave Reilly
Because you guys are slacking. Frankly. Don't abuse our audience. I will abuse them as much as I
want. I do in the live chat sometimes. Don't make me hit. No.
[1:01:20] Rebecca Hargraves
I'm not your wife. You kid. Yeah. Let's see.
[1:01:26] Dave Reilly
Oh boy. Well, here we go. And we got our first super chat from bust insider.
[1:01:32] Rebecca Hargraves
Ew. Who sent $5?
[1:01:34] Dave Reilly
Tucker just had a guy on talking about the Fed. Why would the CIA want to draw attention to the Fed?
Gay op imminent. That has nothing to do with this.
[1:01:43] Rebecca Hargraves
I'm not caught up on Tucker's interviews.
[1:01:46] Dave Reilly
I'm not caught up on that. But what I do remember seeing to maybe make this a little bit more relatable
is Tucker did do a interview about the USS Liberty. Oh, really? I can't remember if it was with Darryl
Cooper. But you know, there was a clip. Let me see if I can pull it up. Let's see. Let's see if I can do this
quickly on the fly.
[1:02:07] Rebecca Hargraves
On the fly.
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[1:02:08] Dave Reilly
Tucker Carlson USS Liberty.
[1:02:17] Guest
When did he do this?
[1:02:21] Rebecca Hargraves
There it is.
[1:02:22] Dave Reilly
I don't know if it was with the US policymakers that believe that.
[1:02:25] Rebecca Hargraves
But you know, I think subconsciously some folks did.
[1:02:28] Dave Reilly
I think in Johnson, a lot of the USS Liberty to be attacked. He knew those guys were going to die.
[1:02:32] Rebecca Hargraves
I thought they're all going to die.
[1:02:33] Dave Reilly
I mean, I think that's true.
[1:02:34] Rebecca Hargraves
So I mean, that's happened before. He's a president of the United States allowing hoping for the death
of US troops for some other agenda.
[1:02:42] Dave Reilly
Like, there are people that evil when in Johnson was that evil. Yeah.
[1:02:46] Rebecca Hargraves
I mean, the, you know, when we know now about Gulf of Tonkin and all that other. I think so. Yeah. I
don't like how he says some other agenda. What agenda? Tucker say it. Say the thing.
[1:02:56] Dave Reilly
He's always right there, you know. Was this the other one? Yeah. This was the other clip.
[1:03:01] Rebecca Hargraves
False flags are very useful.
[1:03:04] Dave Reilly
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Yeah. Very useful. And they work.
[1:03:07] Rebecca Hargraves
I know. They work sadly.
[1:03:09] Dave Reilly
USS Liberty. USS Liberty. A famous false flag. You know, you want to get us in the war against Egypt.
[1:03:16] Cameron M
Well, then Israel and the CIA collaborate and bomb and kill American sailors on the USS Liberty.
[1:03:22] Rebecca Hargraves
Too bad you didn't kill all of them because a lot of them lived. And they told the world what the hell
happened when they tried to use American sailors as a false flag
[1:03:31] Dave Reilly
to get us into a war against Egypt.
[1:03:33] Rebecca Hargraves
Didn't work.
[1:03:34] Dave Reilly
Even though Lyndon Johnson and the CIA tried their damnedest to work with Israel to do it. So you
think Lyndon Johnson knew that American sailors were being murdered?
[1:03:43] Rebecca Hargraves
100%.
[1:03:44] Dave Reilly
It goes all the way to him. You could read Blood in the Water. Joe Melon's incredible book. It's so evil
that I can't even. He's such an evil, evil human being, such an evil human being. But don't ask Doris
Kern's good with that because you know, she'll write a book about how amazing.
[1:03:59] Cameron M
Anyway, you get the idea.
[1:04:00] Dave Reilly
So the damn hat's broken on this issue. And I think you're right. I mean, it's just. You can't square the
circle between there are greatest ally and they killed 34 of our people and injured another 170. And
intended to kill. And intended to kill all of them, right? It's just those two narratives cannot exist side by
side. Period. You know, I just don't see it. The amount of cognitive dissonance that one would have to
go through is just. It's unforgettable. There's what it is. Yeah. Let's see here. Book track grooves sent
$10 on Rumble with a question. When did the helicopter show after the attack? Please confirm the jets
did radio and say not to aid USS Liberty. Did the jets see USA flags? Have we done test on that? Bra,
can you please work on your English a little bit? It's probably his second language. It's okay. But yeah, I
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mean, I think you've spoken about this before. There was audio floating around online that I saw. They
haven't recorded. Of them saying fire anyway. Yes. So filled the empty comments on that.
[1:05:11] Rebecca Hargraves
Yeah. We were on their war table a day before the attack. And when the jets were in the air and the
unmarked aircraft, one of pilots said, but it's an American ship.
[1:05:30] Dave Reilly
Yes.
[1:05:31] Rebecca Hargraves
And headquarters said, you have your orders.
[1:05:36] Dave Reilly
Attack it. Attack it.
[1:05:40] Rebecca Hargraves
They did in the consequences of well known of what they did.
[1:05:45] Dave Reilly
And they did it with a vengeance.
[1:05:49] Rebecca Hargraves
I mean, you can't believe, I really can't explain it to you. Being on a ship out in the middle of the water
with the ocean. No word to run. No word to hide. And going through two hours of a blood bath. You see
sailors all over the decks everywhere wounded men. And some so wounded so badly, you could hardly
look at them. Hardly look at them. They were wounded so badly. Bring it to your knees and cry. And for
the people that run our country from LBJ to now, they're all part of the cover up. So I consider all part of
murder by covering up the murder of my 34 shipmates
[1:06:39] Dave Reilly
and tried to murder the rest of us, including me, no doubt. Accomplices to cold blooded murder.
[1:06:46] Rebecca Hargraves
And they are by hiding the truth. There are by hiding the truth. And the truth will prevail. It's got to. And I
just hope it's in my lifetime. I hope it's so.
[1:06:58] Dave Reilly
Amen. But even if you, that's not realized for you, you can always know. You can have that
reassurance of knowing that you did everything that you could.
[1:07:06] Rebecca Hargraves
And that in and of itself is, is a powerful thing. Yeah.
[1:07:11] Cameron M
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Well, if it, if it ever happened, they invited some public Congress.
[1:07:14] Rebecca Hargraves
I'd probably have a separate moment. Here, Elizabeth, there, come.
[1:07:17] Dave Reilly
But if we need it, the American needs it. Yes, we do. Yes, we do. I feel like a lot, so much of the, the
problems that we have in this country is because basically, I mean, I personally believe that the, the,
the killing of Kennedy was a, was a coup d'état. And that we've been an occupied country since 1963.
And that the entire world view, the, everything that we're taught in school about how our country
operates and all the, it's all lies. And I think when you found a society on lies, it leads to disorder. And
so I, I really do think that, you know, the moment that we kind of, like, restore some level of truth here, I
think everything else is going to kind of. It's on light as the best is infected. We've got another $10 from
book track groups. What was the mission of the USS Liberty? What were the actions of the CIA? What
are the key notes to convince people to understand? The USS Liberty was the most sophisticated, spy
ship in the world at the time.
[1:08:20] Rebecca Hargraves
They sent us into that area to pick up communications. But it really, it really didn't make any difference.
What we were picking up, what we were transferring back to NSA.
[1:08:36] Dave Reilly
We could, we could send signals back to NSA within three seconds, bouncing it off the move back to
NSA within three seconds. Think about that in 1967. You can only imagine what they can do now.
[1:08:49] Rebecca Hargraves
But it wouldn't have mattered what we were doing anyway. We were set up a sacrificial lamp to sink all
for the Zionist, the greater good of visual. That's what it's all about then. That's what it's all about now.
[1:09:06] Dave Reilly
If the Liberty went down as planned and they blamed it on NASA, what you were going to do.
[1:09:13] Rebecca Hargraves
Get us into World War III, possibly a nuclear war.
[1:09:17] Dave Reilly
No doubt because there was a sub there, a Russian sub that was going to nuke Israel.
[1:09:24] Cameron M
And watching sacrifice, Liberty, that'll tell you that.
[1:09:27] Rebecca Hargraves
They couldn't get the job done. And we're still alive, telling the truth.
[1:09:33] Dave Reilly
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And the world needs to know that because this isn't just about the crew of the US, it's Liberty. It's about
America and our values who we really stand for.
[1:09:45] Rebecca Hargraves
We stand for America only in no other country.
[1:09:48] Dave Reilly
We'll protect America and screw the rest of them. Yeah, let's see here. We've got one from Shalom,
fellow goyem.
[1:09:56] Rebecca Hargraves
We sent $5.
[1:09:58] Dave Reilly
No. I visited Israel on birthright. They told us at a gigantic rally that we could be citizens of our
countries, but were Jews first. Me and my buddies looked at each other like, what the fuck? Really?
The program should be terminated their propagandizing spies. I don't know where I heard recently, but
somebody threw out an estimate. I would think it was in Israeli that threw out an estimate that basically
30% of the Jews in America are essentially functioning as Israeli spies.
[1:10:32] Rebecca Hargraves
Well, dual citizenship.
[1:10:33] Dave Reilly
They call them say a name is the name that they give to these types of people that live in other
countries and whatnot. Well, let's see, we've got one over on entropy. I don't think it's necessarily
directed at you Phil, but I'll read it anyway. It's $10 from SS, Jesus whipped merchants for selling
trinkets in God's house. How would Jesus react to IDF bombing God's house full of starving kids? The
clergy don't confront Jewish power when they should be the most outspoken and lay people get
confused too easily by Jewish propaganda. The church is not the solution. Well, slightly disagree with
you.
[1:11:19] Cameron M
Are we going on questions for Phil?
[1:11:21] Dave Reilly
I do believe we are good on... Let me just double check entropy real quick and see. Hold on a second.
It does this. It gets all fritzy. Fritzy. Fritzy. Good name for a dog. Okay, we appear to be all caught up on
that. Phil, thank you so much for joining us and giving your harrowing account of that day on the USS
Liberty and the aftermath. We appreciate it so much.
[1:11:48] Rebecca Hargraves
Can you tell people where they can find you? And we did discuss a little bit about how they can support
the survivor's fund. Right. Like I said, the USS Liberty Veterans dot com. They can find me on X at Bill
Turney. By the way, I'm starting a podcast. It's going to open up in August. I don't know exactly when.
[1:12:14] Dave Reilly
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Probably around the 20, 21st in that area.
[1:12:18] Rebecca Hargraves
Be the Phil Turney podcast. I'll have on survivors. Other like-minded people that want to learn the truth
from people over there in scholars and people that just care about America.
[1:12:33] Dave Reilly
We're back in Dave and I got to tell you I'm really honored to be on with you and I do appreciate the
time to share my thoughts with everybody.
[1:12:43] Rebecca Hargraves
And we have one country. We only have America. We can't lose it to a foreign government because
we're almost there. Yeah. Are we already taken over? We can't get it back. I hope not. But let's try to so
God bless America only God bless America only. And let's quit funding genocide on the high seas and
cover genocide in Gaza and genocide on the high seas. Murdering my shipmates and tried to murder
us all. And for that, I will always speak about and I'm forever grateful that you guys got me on. Thank
you so much. God bless you.
[1:13:23] Dave Reilly
Thank you so much. And this is our honor is all ours and to the folks that are tuning in.
[1:13:28] Rebecca Hargraves
Please make sure you follow Phil on X at Phil Phil tourney.
[1:13:31] Dave Reilly
That's his his at there. There's also the USS Liberty Vets at USS Liberty Vets on X. And please visit
USS Liberty dot org. I'm actually about to place a little order here.
[1:13:47] Rebecca Hargraves
Get a get myself a hat and a couple of pins.
[1:13:49] Dave Reilly
So again, thank you so much. Thank you so much. appreciate it. Yeah, thank, thank you. Could you
send me this one is all done?
[1:13:55] Rebecca Hargraves
Of course. Absolutely. God bless you guys. Let's get some time. Thank you, Paul. Bye, bye.
[1:14:02] Dave Reilly
All right. That was awesome. Let's see here. I hate to do this, but I drink this whole coffee and I have to
pee. You have to go pee. Oh, okay. Well, great. We got a crypto super chat that I can
[1:14:11] Rebecca Hargraves
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[1:17:13] Rebecca Hargraves
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[1:17:18] Dave Reilly
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[1:17:30] Rebecca Hargraves
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[1:18:01] Rebecca Hargraves
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[1:18:06] Dave Reilly
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sandalwood frankincense. It smells great. I use it in my beard to keep my beard from looking too
shabby and it's like a hair pomade. Uh, but I've been experimenting with their unscented and it's, I didn't
think it would work. You know what I mean? Because it's like, well, how is it going to make me not smell
like ass if it doesn't have a scent in it? What about your smelly ass? But I've been using unscented
soap for like two weeks now. And it's like, I can confirm that he doesn't smell terrible. I don't smell
terrible. Uh, but the unscented actually works in getting you
[1:20:30] Rebecca Hargraves
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not to smell like, what, why are you doing this? I don't know because you wash. I don't know.
[1:20:37] Dave Reilly
Anyway, the unscented works and, uh, it, it, it'll, it's going to work well for those of you that go hunting in
the fall. Uh, you know, you don't want to go out with fragrance on the, the deer, the, they will smell it. So
for all of you hunters out there, definitely check out the, uh,
[1:20:52] Rebecca Hargraves
the unscented. Uh, so there's that. These are not the ads that these companies signed up for.
[1:20:56] Dave Reilly
Absolutely not. We're going to get an email. Yeah, we probably are. Uh, we got a crypto super chat
directly to Rebecca. Let's see here. Uh, from anonymous to Rebecca. This is cool and all, but if you are
ever able to get lightning support, that'd be great. What the fuck is liquid Bitcoin? Come on, bro. Uh,
love the show. Have a great week. Thank you very much. Sure it is. Uh, it says streamer, Rebecca. And
that's one of the things that you can do. You can choose who this is directed to.
[1:21:27] Rebecca Hargraves
When Bitcoin goes to 50 million, I'm, we're going to parse through all these ones that were sent
[1:21:32] Dave Reilly
specifically to me. And I'm going to claim them demand demand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, but, uh, yeah.
And you can do that by visiting the backlash dot net. And it's the green one here at the bottom. And so,
you know, uh, I am going to work. I'm going to call up the dev sometime this week. And we're going to
see the dev. Um, and we're going to see if we can get the lightning integrated here. It is a little bit more
difficult. You need to get inbound liquidity blah, blah, blah. Everybody has zoned out at this point. Um, I
also want to know, would you guys be interested in having safe Vadina move? Uh, the author of the
Bitcoin standard, the Fiat standard. He's, he's, no, no, not, but not, not to talk about crypto to talk about
Gaza. Uh, because he, he is like an incredibly, you know, he's very big in, in the finance world, the
Bitcoin world, but also he's one of the most at the forefront of criticizing Israel and, uh, talking about
what's going on. Then short answer. Yes. Uh, so I think that that might be, uh, very interesting. Uh,
Ryan Hart sent $25.
[1:22:37] Rebecca Hargraves
This is for the use of saying them. Yeah, let me, let me pull this up real quick. People don't
[1:22:43] Dave Reilly
know about this. Uh, Ryan Hart, daddy of six. Can you believe it? Oh, yeah. Yeah, right here. Uh, we've
got an article, most sides mysterious, say a name network of international spies. Um, you know, there's
a, there's a resource for you. But yeah, basically, uh, Israel runs. Um, let's see here. Uh, say an M is a
Hebrew word that translates to helpers or assistance in English, the context of Israeli intelligence, say
an M refers to individuals often living outside of Israel who provide assistance to Mossad, Israel's
intelligence agency on a voluntary and often clandestine basis. Uh, these individuals are not Mossad
agents themselves, but they offer support resources or information to further the agency's operations.
So they're spies. Spice. Spice. They are Israeli spies. Uh, they exist. It's real. And everybody should
know about it because if you see some doofus that used to work at, you know, Booz Allen Hamilton
that's crawling around trying to call your names, it's probably one of these types of guys. By the way, if
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anybody's looking at buying a house in court, Elaine, I got a really, really interesting spot for you to
check out.
[1:23:55] Rebecca Hargraves
You know he's watching. Oh, of course he is. Just at his house jerking off. They're talking about me
again. New reticent sent $10. Let them look west. Uh, just don't let them
[1:24:09] Dave Reilly
go there unless they're white, pass an IQ test and exhibit national essential abilities. Yeah, this
[1:24:14] Rebecca Hargraves
book, uh, let them look west. Fantastic book from our friends at Antelope Hill publishing. I believe
[1:24:19] Dave Reilly
it's fiction. Um, I haven't read it yet. I'm sorry. I have kids. I don't have the luxury of like reading fiction
books at this time. When you have kids, you don't have any luxuries anymore. No, no, it's true. By the
way, yesterday was like, you know, driving back, I'll say I was in Montana. I was actually in Calisbell,
Montana. I wanted to meet with Pastor Chuck Baldwin, but that didn't have a chance. But anyway, um,
you know, we watched like whatever dumb movie, you know, Horton hears a who or something like
that. And like we watched three kiddie movies back to back. And then it's like, okay, daddy wants to
listen to some music now. And I put on music and my daughter screamed for an hour. Yeah. Yeah.
Now I want the spaceship song. She loves the interstellar, the interstellar soundtrack. Yeah. Favorite
favorite favorite music. And you've heard my street listened to it three thousand times. I just want to
listen to like a little bit of radio head and some yaysay or please. Yeah. You know, but anyway, no, no,
no, you can't not allowed not allowed to do it. Not allowed. Okay. I think now we are officially caught up
on super Chad. So let me just hit the refresh button
[1:25:27] Rebecca Hargraves
one more time. Do we do Atlas Boolean? We have not yet done Atlas Boolean. I was saving that for
[1:25:31] Dave Reilly
last best. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's okay. Uh, book track ruse $10 are blond's DMs. Oh, I'll check
[1:25:41] Rebecca Hargraves
my DMs. And Jochen Bo Rockford with a big super Chad $50 he sent E. Oh, what are you going to do
after R and S? What are R and S? Yeah. Oh, wow. Really milking it, aren't you? I'm just I'm just
planning there are other racial slurs, but none is the pack the punch as the onward. You know, I don't
[1:26:05] Dave Reilly
know. Is anything? Is any racial slurk? Okay. Oh, right. That's got four letters. It's got some bite to it.
Yeah. That's true. Bokido ki smoky. That brings us up to date with that. And then, uh, of course, you
know, in the wake of this giant financial crisis that seems to be looming greater every day. I'd love that
picture. We need to direct your attention to Atlas Boolean.com slash backlash. And I'm
[1:26:33] Rebecca Hargraves
going to actually read this because why not every purchase you make here, not only helps you secure
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[1:26:40] Dave Reilly
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working and it's not, but it's okay. I think the last time I checked the gold to silver ratio was something
like 90, which is extremely high. So that shows that silver could be a good play. And by the way, they
just, they just signed on a new, what do you call it? A new silver group to provide the silver. Let me see
if I can pull this up real quick. God, we are just doing the longest fricking commercials today. I'm so
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really neat. So it kind of gives you like a collector's angle of it. Really, you're not going to hear here.
Here's another little image that you can see.
[1:28:59] Rebecca Hargraves
I'm just going to keep buying my silver and jewelry. Yeah. You know, I was thinking about that the
[1:29:03] Dave Reilly
other day, you know, buy some tracks and YC stuff from that Jewish guy in Brooklyn. What? Get like a
big kilo gold chain or something like that. Just like how are you going to get through an airport with like
a bunch of gold coins? Yeah. It makes sense to have some jewelry. I don't
[1:29:18] Rebecca Hargraves
know. But anyway, Atlas bullion dot com slash the backlash. Your purchases help support this show.
[1:29:25] Dave Reilly
And it can help support your future and your family's future in the wake of all of this monetary
debasement. So Atlas bullion dot com slash backlash. Thank you. We really appreciate it. We are
geared
[1:29:36] Rebecca Hargraves
up to have an awesome show on Wednesday. Dave, work with me here. Yes, we are. It's going to be
one of our most important shows groundbreaking. Too much too much skill back or I keep expectations
real. And next month, the day of his choosing choosing all the folks. So yes, we've already got a few
[1:29:56] Dave Reilly
booked. I believe on the fourth, we're going to have a slight change of plan. We were going to have
pine sap from Jubilee. But now we're going to have a two for one special. It's going to be pine sap and
Dumour Nat. Cool. Who was the other guy from Jubilee? Who was the other guy, the one that basically
left Medi Hassan like stammering, stuttering, like unable to speak because he didn't understand the the
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survey that he was using anyway. So that'll be great. They're also both Catholic. So we'll
[1:30:26] Rebecca Hargraves
get to talk a little bit about that and annoy our pagan audience. And then who else do we have booked?
[1:30:31] Dave Reilly
Oh, yeah, we got a black guy coming on the show. Marcel Dumas will be on on, I think it was the 14th.
Let me double check. The exact cruise is going to come on for a double feet jump. And we're still kind
of hammering out. We're supposed to be getting Joe Weben. He's like a
[1:30:51] Rebecca Hargraves
Protestant minister. Let's see if we can hammer down David Irving for the last month. If anybody has
this contact information, you know, the audience is a lot more well connected. I underestimate the
[1:31:04] Dave Reilly
audience so much. Like I was saying, like we, you know, this poor guy that I thought was a fat. He
came to that rosary rally that we did. Why would you think he was a fat? Well, because like everybody
was like that was when Patriot Front showed up, there was all kinds of crazy stuff going on. I was telling
somebody like open fire in my front yard with like full auto gun fire the night before the pride event. So I
thought they were really shooting at my house. I had to call SWAT. It was a problem. And you are very
paranoid. I was very paranoid that day. And so it's like, here's this like buff good looking dude. And I'm
like, you're too sexy. You got to be a fat. This guy's clearly got to be so, you know, but anyway, you
know, I went up to to Montana and he let, you know, me and the family stay at his place and just
gorgeous. Absolutely. What him? His house, his family. You know, we prayed the rosary together. It
was just like incredible. And so I'm just continually astounded at the agency of our listeners. They're
smart. Good looking, thoughtful, caring. It's really great because if you listen to all these like losers on
the internet, they want you to think that, you know, only idiots listen to it. But no, actually, we are the
future. It totally, this guy that recognized me
[1:32:20] Rebecca Hargraves
on Vashon, clean cut, totally normal. Yeah. I was like, wow, this is, this is awesome. And that's
[1:32:26] Dave Reilly
the best part is like, our people are everywhere. We are everywhere. You hear that human rights
association of Coraline? Yeah. We are everywhere. Yep. You're not, you don't get the old, it's not like
the old days, you know, with Jack boot wearing skin. Yeah. We're just normal people. We blend.
[1:32:45] Rebecca Hargraves
We blend, except for Dave with his gay, Elton, John glasses that everybody hates. I actually kind of
[1:32:49] Dave Reilly
like him. And Cameron said to lean into it, lean into it. They are growing on me. What did he say? Go
full douche or something. I think something like that, which for me, not hard.
[1:33:00] Rebecca Hargraves
On that note, we'll see you guys on Wednesday. You can find all of our links at the backlash.net. Thank
you so much for joining us for this lovely episode with Phil Turnie. And we will see you shortly. Bye bye.
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