Interview · October 20, 2025

Episode 85 — Are You Ready for What’s Next? — Urban Survival Lessons from PNW Guerilla

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In Episode 85 of The Backlash, Rebecca Hargraves sits down with @PNWGuerilla, owner of ODGG Supply, to discuss what it really takes to survive when society starts to break down. From urban survival tactics and financial collapse preparedness to community organizing and real-world meetups in an increasingly censored world — this episode dives deep into how to protect yourself, your family, and your future. Whether it’s economic chaos, social unrest, or total grid failure, PNW Guerilla shares hard-earned lessons from the frontlines of modern American resilience.

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Episode 85 Episode 85 — PNW Guerilla_transcribed Episode 85 Episode 85 — Are You Ready for What_s Next? — Urban Survival Lessons from PNW Guerilla.mp4 [0:02:40] Rebecca Hargraves Welcome to the backlash. I am your host, Rebecca Hargraves. How are you doing, Dave? Me? Yeah. What? How are you doing, Dave? I'm doing great. How are you doing? That was a totally [0:02:49] Dave Reilly normal question. Why would that be a normal question? What are you doing? That's not a normal question. [0:02:54] Rebecca Hargraves Last night, we all got dinner and we were talking about the optimal amount of white autism. And I think Dave surpasses that amount by about 40%, you're 40% too autistic. I am 40% too autistic. Yeah. How are you doing as a normal question? Depends on how it's asked. You can find us on X at real backlash, our website, the backlash.net support us on subscribe star.com slash the backlash patreon.com slash the backlash. And you're super chats that will be read live at the end of our show [0:03:23] Dave Reilly to the backlash.net slash super chat or to my YouTube channel. Can't believe I'm saying that. Or [0:03:28] Rebecca Hargraves to the backlash YouTube channel at real backlash. Follow us there. Follow us on rumble backlash podcast IG real dot backlash. TikTok at backlash pod. I did the thing. Thank you to Atlas Bullion, premier dealers of gold and silver Idaho, tallow that sells skincare without endocrine [0:03:48] Dave Reilly endocrine disruptors, and annulapel the people that will publish anything without further ado. Would you like to intro our guest, Dave? I would love to intro our guest. Is that a weird question? No, it's fine. I just don't know anything about him. He's just been staying in my house for the [0:04:00] Rebecca Hargraves past couple days. With us today, we have Alex. Oh, what? That's not working. He did the wrong thing. Yeah, you fucked up. Nobody's going to know. We have Alex from ODGG supply. It's a military [0:04:17] Dave Reilly surplus supplier out in Washington state. And you've been out here for the past couple days. It's been wild. This has been probably like the most jam packed weekend that I've had in a long time because the nuns do like a slave day where they make all of the parents or the fathers anyway. I don't think you should say slave day. Well, maybe that would be maybe that's the wrong way to put it. [0:04:38] Cameron M A work day. They have us do a work day where we show up at the convent and clean out the gutters [0:04:45] Dave Reilly and cut down trees and removed debris and paint classrooms. It sounds like a volunteer day. So we did that. And then there was the, then there was the the No Kings protests this weekend, which I'm sure Episode 85 we'll probably get into the offer. And then Alex came over and then we spent the entire day yesterday out at the gun range in the fucking rain. So let me play this real quick. This is fun. [0:05:13] Cameron M Uh, this is the coolest you've ever looked probably. [0:05:36] Dave Reilly Oh, good lord. So yeah, it was downpouring, but it was a good time. I might kind of a little [0:05:40] Cameron M overboard with the edit, but I think it looks good. I think it looks good. Yeah, it's good. That was [0:05:44] Rebecca Hargraves good. But yeah, so that's Alex. Hi Alex. Hello. Tell us a little bit about your YouTube channel for the audience that might be unfamiliar with you. Uh, so the biggest thing that I'm preaching, [0:05:54] Cameron M which camera am I supposed to be looking at? You can look at that one. Okay. That's like your personal camera. All right. Perfect. Uh, I'd say the biggest thing that I'm always preaching is a community [0:06:01] Dave Reilly training and trying to be better as a man and trying to return to masculinity as a lame. Is that sometimes sounds in the, the modern space? Because a lot of times it does come off as cringe. But oh, no, ironically, you know, there's a, there's a lot of beta males and there's a lot of males that [0:06:19] Cameron M are need to, uh, need to bring it back to, to tradition for, you know, lack of a better phrasing [0:06:24] Dave Reilly based. It's so true. And uh, my, my YouTube channel was a lot more organized and we've kind of gotten away from it and went into a ramps more of anything and now trying to go back into taking [0:06:37] Cameron M things much more seriously. I devoted a lot of time and effort into the, uh, into the military surplus company, which took off. And now that's doing really well, I have time to go back into [0:06:46] Dave Reilly content. And that's exciting. Well, if you don't post about what you're interested in, then the channel dies on the vine. Yeah, here's, uh, we did not have this. So you've got to do a channel. It is at PNW Gorilla G U E R, not G O R. Yeah, no, a lot of think, a lot of people think it's the animal, which like, why? Well, I mean, like, my logo does have like the, the monkey and like, obviously, [0:07:10] Rebecca Hargraves there's, you know, playing games. There's like, it is like, sort of playing it at the Episode 85 [0:07:15] Cameron M game. Okay, that's fair. That's fair. So like, and like, I even have patches that are like Gorilla, [0:07:19] Dave Reilly Gorilla. So it's both of them. So it does, like, it's a little back and forth. And we like, you know, play with the wording. But hold on a second. I am like, still, I'm like, very pleased with yourself myself. Uh, I'm very pleased. I think the funniest thing, though, was like, by the end of the range day, he was like, hey, man, we really got to get some content of me shooting. And I'm like, [0:07:40] Rebecca Hargraves what do you think I've been doing this entire time? He's like, well, when were you doing that? And like, while you were shooting, what do you think? Yeah. Oh, you've been taking videos. I'm like, [0:07:50] Dave Reilly yes. I'm like, I'm making an edit from this. Why would I? You're a high agency alpha male. And I'm like, you're hanging out like low agency. Like, okay, could you please like, take your camera out, hit the record button. You know, you know, I have to give a lot of. No, I'd say like half of the videos that I took, I didn't even wind up using. Well, here's, here's one of them. And I was, so we had a rate, we had a, like, a metal target at about 75 yards. That's 75 80. Yeah. And I was, I was getting like a solid like 80 to 90% hit rate. Uh, I'm like, very pleased with myself. [0:08:29] Rebecca Hargraves One miss. Point. Two misses, maybe. But anyway, yeah. I'm like, very pleased with myself. I haven't, [0:08:43] Dave Reilly I don't train nearly as much as I should because I was like, trying to avoid that whole like, he's a violent, right wing extremist. He's like, got guns and he's training. So I was like, I'm not going to go to the gun range. I'm not going to like, unfortunately, you know, you just, [0:08:59] Cameron M you know, I've gotten a point where you just kind of have to lean into it. And it's just like, it is what it is. Right. You know, and also, you know, with, uh, with the current space and, and where we're at right now, um, I've noticed that, you know, because I have been doxed multiple [0:09:12] Dave Reilly times now. And, uh, but like my followers will go in. They're like, do you have any idea how much this guy trains? And do you know who you're talking to? Like, I wouldn't go to his house. Right. [0:09:23] Cameron M So there is a little bit of like that, that does help, I would say, of like showing how much I'm [0:09:28] Dave Reilly training. And people are like, yeah, I don't want to, I don't want to do that. By the way, uh, we do have to give a big shout out to ODGG Supply, who is the special sponsor of this amazing backlash episode. You can go to ODGG Supply dot com and pick up military surplus. Very cheap, but very quality quality Episode 85 quality goods for low prices. Uh, where is the, those waffle pants right [0:09:56] Cameron M there? I actually have a pair right here. I don't, I don't go anywhere without them. Those are, [0:10:00] Rebecca Hargraves those are the marine core issue waffle tops and bottoms. I cannot recommend this button. Is that, [0:10:06] Cameron M no, there we go. I'm wearing that, that one right there. I'm wearing right now. This guy, that's, [0:10:10] Dave Reilly that's this very night. How much is that? 1499. Let's solve out. So, bro, because I can't, I can't, I can't keep them in stock. Nice. Let's see. Like, nice, but we could, like, we could probably [0:10:20] Cameron M pan this. And there's like so many of these things that I have with me right this second. Yeah. [0:10:24] Dave Reilly We'll, we'll get into it. But, uh, there is some interesting stuff going on. And I think that that could kind of like lead into an interesting discussion. And that is, uh, if I can find, yes, here, here it is. This, this came up over. Oh, and by the way, this is like a perfect episode. If you're watching, send like questions for him because he is like a prepper extraordinaire. Uh, he's been doing this for a long time. You're in the army. Yeah. Uh, so you know what you're talking about when it comes to urban survival, prepping, training, and all of this kind of stuff. So if you have any questions about anything like preparedness or self-defense, this would be a great episode to send your superchets in. There's, and it's not not to cut you off too hard. There's a lot that you learn in the army. [0:11:07] Cameron M You do. But like, when you get out, a lot of people don't understand that like you have to take what [0:11:12] Dave Reilly you learned and you have to keep going with it. Right. Like so many people like boasts that like, [0:11:17] Cameron M oh, I was in the army. I know so much. Sure. Oh, oh, I, I was in the army. I, you know, I'm, I'm prepared. [0:11:22] Dave Reilly I know how to shoot. But like, you, you take that and you have to keep going with it. Right. So yeah, no, not to, not to cut you off too hard. No, absolutely. Well, so, and so here's one of the things. This was a news story that I saw pop up. Yeah, literally yesterday. I told you about this. Thank you. Oh, there we go. I told you, I told you, I said this over when we were at the, when we were getting cigars. Nice. And so yeah, this is kind of crazy. Oh, now the government shutdown food stamps will be cut off after October due to the government shutdown. So EBT vendors, state EBT vendors, this is, this is going to suck. I think because you know, what's the old saying is that we're basically three meals away from revolution. Is there going to be gorilla warfare because of this? Ha. G O. Oh, all right. Because it's, I get Episode 85 it. I get it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [0:12:19] Rebecca Hargraves Little little racism. Yeah. Let me go around the round of applause for my woman joke. Thank you. [0:12:26] Dave Reilly I really appreciate it. So yeah, so what are your thoughts about this? Do you think, what do you think would happen? I mean, imagine if in America, these cities are full of people that are completely reliant on the government. And how long do you think we would have notice wise to like prepare for social unrest like this? A, do you think this will bring about social unrest? And B, how long do you think people have to get themselves ready? I mean, you have to look into, you know, who is on snap, who is on these government assistance? You know, like the, the type of people, [0:13:07] Cameron M and, and how, you know, clearly they're extremely, you know, high thinking people and they're very [0:13:15] Rebecca Hargraves calm and black people. So you have to look at the type of people that are on these government [0:13:22] Dave Reilly assistance. And as soon as you take that away, you know, how do you think that they're going to act? How do you think they're going to behave? I mean, from what we've already seen in America, [0:13:31] Cameron M how they act and how they behave, when they're getting government assistance, how they act and how [0:13:36] Dave Reilly they behave and how they treat our kind. Very true. You know, how are they going to act once that government assistance has gone away? And they see that we are still doing fine because, you know, we're [0:13:46] Cameron M not on said government assistance and this doesn't really affect us. And, you know, that's probably [0:13:52] Dave Reilly going to come back into the whole white supremacy thing. And they're, and they're going to say that, you know, it's white supremacy because this doesn't affect us. Right. Now, that's, you know, me just [0:14:03] Cameron M assuming. But I'd say that, you know, if, if you start taking away, assistance is like this. If you [0:14:09] Dave Reilly start taking away all of the, all of the money, all the food, everything that's keeping them alive. [0:14:15] Cameron M Episode 85 And like we were talking about last night with the, you know, the grants. And we can get into that as well because that's infuriating. But you take these things away. And yeah, I mean, three, [0:14:27] Dave Reilly three days of, of no food and people are going to go bananas. Where is the banana? I think the bananas upstairs. I might be upstairs on the counter. But yeah, and that, that is very true. Where's the, let me see if I can find, there was a tweet that was going super viral over the weekend about H1B housing grants. The government was straight up giving people money to buy houses. Yeah. So, and in Washington state, you were telling me that we have another issue. Yeah. So the, the, the black [0:15:04] Cameron M folk in in Washington state are now eligible for their first time buying a house. They get a $150,000 grant to buy a house. They don't have to pay it back. It's just free money. Here you go [0:15:17] Dave Reilly because you're black and you're oppressed and, you know, congratulations, free money. And I'm like, [0:15:24] Cameron M I don't get that. Like I have to, I have to grind. And I have to, you know, do so much when they're just, here you go. You're oppressed. Right. Yeah. This was, now this is a little different. This [0:15:35] Dave Reilly is federally speaking. Is it a loan? These were FHA loans that were given out to H1B visa holders. [0:15:43] Cameron M So they do have to, okay. So they say they have to pay them back. But the question is, are they [0:15:47] Dave Reilly going to default on loans? Of course, they're going to default on loan. And then what's going to happen [0:15:50] Rebecca Hargraves if they don't pay it back? Well, the subprime mortgage crisis. Probably nothing. Right. Well, the subprime [0:15:54] Dave Reilly mortgage crisis was caused by lending to low income people that had a massively high rate of [0:16:02] Rebecca Hargraves default. So what's going to happen here? Are we going to sell collateralized debt obligations? [0:16:07] Dave Reilly Are we going to be in the same situation as 2008? Right. Probably. And it's probably going to be worse. I mean, we've been seeing this whole thing with gold melting up, the dollars kind of melting up Episode 85 [0:16:16] Cameron M at the same time. Unfortunately, I don't think that we need to focus too much on the past here in America. [0:16:22] Dave Reilly And I do the same thing for referencing 2008 and referencing the housing crisis. And I think that we probably should be looking forward and seeing other countries and how that's affected them, you know, [0:16:32] Rebecca Hargraves specifically like South Africa. And how much South Africa is like, it feels like we're kind of going [0:16:39] Dave Reilly that direction. And you know, soon enough, we're going to have to have, you know, roving security patrols. And that doesn't, it might seem insane. It might seem wild that like that would never happen in America. It's like, well, why not? Right. Of course, I will. Yeah. Well, and I think it's also, it's like very different. We were talking about this over the weekend too, because it's when you've rolled up to my place on Friday, right? And you and your buddy came in and you know, you have your [0:17:06] Cameron M backpacks on with your rigs. And then like, they're bringing in their guns with like suppressors on them [0:17:12] Dave Reilly and like kid it out, decked out. And it's like, okay, yeah, you're coming from Seattle. [0:17:19] Cameron M I live in Idaho. And I'm like, very relaxed, very chill. I'm like, you know, very laid back. And so [0:17:26] Dave Reilly there is like a very big difference between red people in blue states versus red people in red states. Absolutely. I feel like I'm like fat and happy. And it's like, everything will be totally fine. Like, [0:17:39] Cameron M no, I constantly feel like I'm behind enemy lines. And that I need to be as prepared as possible [0:17:45] Rebecca Hargraves on the day to day. Wow. You're going to be so much better off than we are. Yeah. Like my my [0:17:50] Dave Reilly radios, my balfang radios have been uncharged for like two years. Yeah. I go weeks without saying [0:17:56] Cameron M a black person here. Okay. So that was okay. We were just talking about that last night. I have not seen [0:18:01] Dave Reilly Episode 85 a single black person yet here being here for three days. Isn't it wonderful? Not one. Yep. It's awesome. People live here for a reason. I know. And that reason is low diversity. Yeah. And we are just honest enough to say that. Okay. But these realtors, they know what's up to. They're pricing all these houses. One million. I saw a Mexican last night, though. Oh, no. I did. Well, it's probably a [0:18:27] Rebecca Hargraves holdover from the squad of mall in summer migration to Home Depot. Oh, yeah, that was bad. How short [0:18:33] Cameron M were they? Oh, I it was at a gas station. I was like, wait, wait, wait. There were good things [0:18:40] Dave Reilly going on yesterday here in Idaho, a large group of Mexicans that were illegally gambling on horses in southern Idaho were rated by ice. Very good. Rounded up. We like to see it. You love to see it. So they are doing something about this problem here in Idaho, which is encouraging. It is good to see. Good to hear. But man, maybe we should move to some city center so that we're more prepared. Well, I feel like we would just become more extreme. I would definitely become. I don't know that that's possible for me. And that's that's the thing, right? And I was saying this last night as well. It's like, man, I I didn't know that I could become more racist and more anti-Semitic. [0:19:23] Rebecca Hargraves Here I am. Here we are. And then you level up and you're like, whoa, I used to be such a softy. [0:19:28] Dave Reilly Yeah, I was like, I used to be a libertarian. No, all of us used to be a libertarian. The libertarian to fascist pipeline is very real. Yeah. I don't know what to say about it. It's [0:19:38] Cameron M true. We wanted to be left alone. We wanted to be left alone. And they didn't leave us alone. [0:19:45] Dave Reilly They're never going to leave us alone. They want to kill us because we want to be left alone. I keep getting trolled by this black guy on Twitter. And the other day he was like, you live in [0:19:54] Rebecca Hargraves Cortaling, you have no idea how quickly we're going to diversify and destroy your area. And I [0:20:01] Dave Reilly was thinking, this, this is why I can't be a libertarian because I'm not going to be left alone and Idaho. One day, they will bring diversity to us. And I'm not moving inland anymore. So you're just going to you're just going to stake it out. Well, so another thing that's been radicalizing me is all the all the illegal Mexican like food stands and like their like their like flower stands of [0:20:22] Cameron M all things. What? Yeah. That's that's a huge thing in my area right now, which is like W. Yeah. Episode 85 [0:20:31] Dave Reilly No, no, like actually they're like there's there's like these huge flower stands and they're walking around and like they're like walking through traffic while you're at a red light and they're trying to sell flowers to people like bouquets, roses, which is just so weird. And anyway, so the most [0:20:46] Cameron M hilarious thing is that like they're starting to become infighting between the legal Mexicans and the illegal Mexicans because the illegal Mexicans are setting up these like illegal food stands outside [0:20:57] Dave Reilly of Mexican restaurants. Bro. And so the legal Mexicans are then like petitioning the town to like deport the illegal ones. I'm like, I'm like, I would have never expected this level of infighting. [0:21:11] Cameron M Interesting. Is that infighting? I don't even know. Totally. Maybe some strategic alliances can [0:21:17] Dave Reilly be formed with the legal ones. I mean, they all have to go back. But in the meantime, when we [0:21:21] Rebecca Hargraves shouldn't we form an alliance with the illegal ones to stoke into intra Mexican racial hatred? [0:21:27] Dave Reilly Ooh, leaning into it. That would be interesting. Yeah, I was thinking we could like use the legal ones to get the ball rolling. And then once the ball's rolling, we just push a little bit more and then they go too. But that legitimizes their place here. Yeah. What's funny though is I have been like [0:21:45] Cameron M noticing like via the type of people that are getting food at the legal Mexicans stands. [0:21:52] Dave Reilly And it's mostly fat white people and old white people. If you've got the fat and the old white [0:21:58] Rebecca Hargraves people, you're you're in business for Mexican food. I bet the illegals are winning on this one. [0:22:03] Dave Reilly Yeah, because like they have they have all the support in the world. I'm just like, I'm looking at them and I was like, you fucking traitors. Because there's no way like you know that they're illegal. Like there's there's no way that they're not when like lemonade stands of a little white children are being shut down for not having a permit. Yeah, permits are their food safety cards or [0:22:24] Rebecca Hargraves Episode 85 whatever. And then my local town, they put up like all these boulders. So the illegals would stop [0:22:31] Dave Reilly going there and they put up like signs and then they just move to the parking lot over from it. [0:22:35] Cameron M And then they also wound up getting in trouble and they have to move like one parking lot over, [0:22:39] Dave Reilly which I'm like, they're just going to keep moving a parking lot over who cares. [0:22:42] Cameron M Yep, but they're going to the city drains and they're now starting to clog the city drains because at the end of the night, they're dumping all their grease. [0:22:48] Dave Reilly Oh, with you, with you seat oils, what could possibly go wrong? People like you could do a good deed by like just going around the city with like lie and just start pouring a lie down. Don't do that. Don't do that. No. [0:23:01] Rebecca Hargraves But it would it would like actually. No, no, don't do that. No, it's probably a bad idea. I don't [0:23:08] Dave Reilly it's definitely a bad idea. Don't do that. I'm just thinking like whenever I have like a problem with my sink because of like pouring grease down and you you put some chemistol down there and it's good. I just don't pour grease down my sink. Yeah, why would you do that? Well, I save it right. I have like a little grease jar for the bacon grease. Then you throw it out. No, no, you use it and then cook eggs. Yeah. After the fact, if you want to cook eggs without having cooked bacon, but you want that bacon flavor in the egg, there's a there's like a little like European like traditional European store and like there's only like Russians and Ukrainians that go there. And they have like very authentic foods and they have like local made butter and I just buy that. Oh yeah, but it's bomb too. Oh yeah, that's amazing. So what if we sent all Mexicans direct mail saying [0:23:57] Rebecca Hargraves that we've already contacted ICE and that they have 24 hours to self-deport, that might work on some [0:24:03] Dave Reilly people. Yeah. Hey, that's not a bad idea. I've been keeping track of that well, but I believe that Washington's like across the board now, just like a safe haven and they're not doing ICE or something. What? I don't. There. I know there's like, I know that specifically, like King Counting Seattle, [0:24:20] Cameron M they don't they don't care. They're just like, no, bring all ever no one's illegal bring, [0:24:24] Dave Reilly Episode 85 but we're all we're all human beings. And I'm like, yeah, no, no sanctity, no like no, you know, [0:24:31] Cameron M tribalism, no, just no, just everyone, everyone come come on in, everyone come into America. [0:24:36] Dave Reilly It's free. As same thing, what Obama was just posting like yesterday saying like that it's now like [0:24:44] Cameron M a safe haven for everyone, the Obama tower. You know what, you know what I'm talking about? Oh yeah, [0:24:49] Dave Reilly yeah, they're building that like weird library thing that looks like Mordor. And then exactly the Mordor one. And then like everyone was like, hey, how come you, you said like everyone and you didn't say Americans. What's what's up with that? Like you didn't, like it's not even how is the [0:25:06] Rebecca Hargraves Indian problem in Seattle? It's terrible. So actually, you know what I would say the they own like [0:25:13] Cameron M every single gas station. That's just the thing now, which that was something you pointed out [0:25:18] Dave Reilly yesterday. Was that yesterday? It was that was yesterday. Okay, we had an action packed weekend. Yeah, that was just that wasn't even 24 hours. You guys are allowed to have white people at gas stations. This is still a thing that we can do. This is one of the last places in the country where you will like go to a gas station to buy a white monster and the person checking you out. It's also way. It's also. Yeah, that was that was wild. I haven't seen that in a in a while, but I'd say the the biggest thing actually is the trucking industry. That is that is the biggest issue with the Indians is the trucking industry. Oh yeah. And you know, since I'm receiving military surplus like every week [0:25:55] Rebecca Hargraves dealing with Indians is deteriorating. And then since my warehouse is now an industrial park, [0:26:04] Dave Reilly like I'm also having to dodge Indians all the damn time and then I've started going down the rabbit hole of how many of them have like trucking companies that don't even exist. What? And they make [0:26:16] Cameron M magnets that and they put them on their trucks and they're not even real companies. Right. And they [0:26:21] Dave Reilly Episode 85 don't have CDLS. Yeah, they don't have CDLS. They don't have real trucking companies. You try to report them and there isn't a company to report. Right. And and even if they there was a legal company and they [0:26:32] Cameron M do get caught, they'll just rotate out with another Indian. And it because there's so many of them and [0:26:37] Dave Reilly it doesn't matter. Yeah. And then they'll try to do any legal you turn in the highway and like decapitate [0:26:42] Cameron M them. Yeah. Totally. Yep. No, there was I was almost run off the road last month and I made a post about it and that went viral and people like trying to track it down and and the company had [0:26:52] Dave Reilly been out of business for like a decade. What? And then like a week later, there was another Indian [0:26:59] Cameron M that that had hit some old white woman and it was it was kind of funny because like I called it. [0:27:06] Dave Reilly Right. Like it wasn't it wasn't funny but at the same time it was funny because I called it but like [0:27:10] Cameron M I saw the I saw the truck and then I saw the the older white woman next to her car and there's a police around and and I saw like the door open and then I saw the feet and I was like I was [0:27:20] Dave Reilly recording with my phone and I was like it's going to be an Indian. It's going to be an Indian. It's [0:27:24] Cameron M going to be an Indian. It's going to be an Indian. You walked out and I'm like call it. Oh my gosh. [0:27:30] Dave Reilly Yeah. Do we need to be prepared? Do we really need to be prepared? Absolutely. That's a dumb question. [0:27:37] Cameron M Absolutely. And it was rhetorical. Yes. No. And and even that's something fascinating is that even [0:27:44] Dave Reilly in Washington state like even even in like the like most blue of the blue areas the the amount of people that are still in this I don't know fake reality like false reality and especially after COVID. Oh yeah. Especially after COVID the amount of people that are just like pretending like all of this isn't happening Episode 85 that you can't see it with your own eyes. Right. Like it's it's the meme of like the guy like holding open the woman's eyes and it's like look look in front of you and it's just it's fascinating to me especially on on Twitter and and even you know like old friends and like family of family of how many people just refuse to acknowledge all of these problems. [0:28:31] Rebecca Hargraves Well it's painful and people have normalcy bias. They want to think that everything is always going to go back to normal. It's going to revert to normal which is really bizarre because historically that [0:28:41] Dave Reilly has not been the case. No it's that's like the only time things go like back to normal is after a lot of violence. Oh yeah. A ridiculous amount of violence and historically a lot of starving. [0:28:54] Cameron M So much starving and that's that's a huge reason that I've been you know talking up like buckets and and caches and just going out with like filling up buckets and you can go to the dollar store [0:29:05] Dave Reilly and like every month you can spend like a hundred bucks and you can fill up like three buckets of food and then you can go to your friends' houses you can go to relatives you can go out in like national land which this isn't legal advice and you can bury food and then wherever you are whatever happens you know if the grid goes down the power goes out hell you blow a tire and you are out of [0:29:27] Cameron M self on service you're like oh well I have a cache a bucket like three miles from here. Nice and me and a buddy we were out in the mountains like let's say it was like a year ago and we were doing like this pushcraft event and we had an open event and it was like we split everybody up into teams I promise this goes into the story. We split up into teams and we were all gonna build like different pushcraft shelters and then we had 24 hours to build the coolest pushcraft shelter between [0:29:56] Dave Reilly all the teams and then everyone had to vote who got the coolest pushcraft who built the coolest pushcraft shelter and then everyone else had to pool and pay for their breakfast the next morning [0:30:06] Cameron M and there was like like into the like into the night Huck who's like one of the main guys I train with [0:30:13] Dave Reilly he's like I have a cache a bucket like a mile from here it's like as soon as it gets dark let's dip out [0:30:19] Cameron M of here it's like let's go get it and and I was like how do you have a cache a bucket a mile from like [0:30:27] Dave Reilly we're in the middle of nowhere like you have a cache a bucket here and he's like yeah I better like two years ago I'm pretty sure I still remember exactly what it was and we went there and Episode 85 [0:30:36] Cameron M hilariously enough he remembered that it was like down this ravine and then it was near two [0:30:41] Dave Reilly stumps and a tree that looked like a cock and balls and that was that was how he said that he knew [0:30:47] Cameron M that like where it was is that like it was between the two stumps and the tree and then like it was right in between all of them and sure enough that he had a cache a bucket between the the cock and balls of the stump and the tree nice and we got back and we cracked it and and anyone that [0:31:03] Dave Reilly watches my content knows that Huck is like one of the most like comedic preppers ever because he preps [0:31:10] Cameron M like morale stuff only so we cracker at nips yeah no we crack the bucket and it's pretty much just [0:31:18] Rebecca Hargraves candy and alcohol nice like that's like that was all that was in there and I'm just like how are you going to survive off of this and he's like survive yeah I was just like well if I ever [0:31:32] Dave Reilly need this bucket you know I'm having a good night yeah really so what can the average family do for [0:31:38] Rebecca Hargraves basic survival like what is the minimum you think people should have honestly I'd say that the biggest [0:31:44] Dave Reilly thing is you know like historically speaking the majority of people wind up dying from like dumb infections in dysentery like historic like even in even in wartime even and not just wartime but like after war because it's usually in in countries after war that people are the most displaced [0:32:05] Cameron M and they like because you know after after a large conflicts there's uh their your supply lines are just completely demolished you know grocery stores are no longer a thing the trucks aren't going anymore the trains aren't going anymore so the the biggest thing you can possibly have [0:32:19] Dave Reilly realistically is actually water filters hmm like people downplay the importance of water filters so much that it's it's almost comical because we're so used to that the water pipelines running right and the water pipeline they but while we've been alive right the water pipelines they've always run except for Flint Michigan okay yeah well there's no there's been kind of fucked about what do you think about the burky oh wait the burky the the the metal thing yeah okay yeah no I like it took me a second yeah no aren't Episode 85 those like really expensive though yeah they're like 300 bucks I have one and I love it yeah can you really yeah absolutely I need to replace my filter no that that's an Alexa pure isn't it they have a the burky is incredible I think it removes everything but then [0:33:08] Rebecca Hargraves there are no trace minerals in your water which is also a problem yes then you have to re-meneralize [0:33:12] Cameron M the water so that's another thing is that like a lot of people think that that like you know if you're on a well you're set it's not just that if you're on a well you're set because if you have [0:33:21] Dave Reilly an electrical pump do you think that electrical pump is working right you need a hand pump right you need a hand pump and then not only that you need to know where the water sources are where you live [0:33:30] Cameron M right and like so many people haven't mapped out or done any sort of reconnaissance whatsoever of anything around them or they live but yeah I'd say the biggest thing is water I mean foods [0:33:43] Dave Reilly clearly extremely important I'm like duh yes and then also you know like you were you were saying last night of making like the the itinerary coffee coffee a lot of people don't prep just coffee beans coffee crowns just things for caffeine like simple things like like zip fizzes oh or energy drinks you can prep those zip fizzes you can like buy like a shit ton of them and they just last forever so like powder right yeah you can just you can just keep it on you yeah yeah I'd say that the biggest thing that a lot of people aren't prepping enough is is absolute water filters water filters water filtration yeah which I can imagine I mean imagine something happens in this country whether it be a supply line shock an economic problem or you know whatever or or maybe this food's food stamp thing you know becomes a real issue like imagine living in Chicago oh yeah you be screwed I don't sell this but lifestyle water bottles I keep one on me that's empty at all times and no matter what I have a water filter on me now does that like filter out bacteria this filters out the vast majority of things I'm going to be real with you I'm no you know biologist I'm I don't know anything about you know see life so I couldn't tell you yeah I just know when you're in South America don't drink the water you get monosumous revenge yeah if you're in India don't drink the water either but if you boil it and then filter it then it won't have any bacteria so that's another [0:35:08] Cameron M thing though that a lot of people don't understand and I've I've tried that of the the boiling water [0:35:12] Dave Reilly and then drinking it and what you don't realize is that you actually lose so much of that water to the steam so you do have to have some type of cover or something like that right which you know [0:35:25] Cameron M it's it's those little like tricks to the trade that like people think that they're they're prepared Episode 85 [0:35:29] Dave Reilly and people think that they know things you actually have to be going out and like trying the things that you think work right because a lot of times there's like there's only so much that you can put [0:35:39] Cameron M into a book and like I don't know how many like prepping books and like survival books and all this [0:35:43] Dave Reilly that I've read and then I go out the mountains and I'm like well hey that's not how that works [0:35:48] Cameron M well and I know that like with like I'm a I'm a ham radio guy I've got my was it my general [0:35:54] Dave Reilly license with ham radio and with that it's it's it's definitely a a user lose it type of skill you've you know you've got to be doing it all the time there's these nets that you can participate in we're like you know people call and they check in and where you talk to Devon stack sometimes maybe maybe you could you could get a hold of Devon on the ham radio but yeah you've got to be actively using these skills no absolutely or else you're going to be kind of screwed no and I another thing is that like like small amenities like like this I mean so I just like no matter what [0:36:28] Cameron M no matter where I'm going I have like a you know sortment of just things that are like I guess like comforts yeah of different types of hot sauce I have a little thing assault in here I have onion powder and then I have these like coffee packets and then I have there's like A&W; in like soda packets [0:36:46] Dave Reilly that you can add to really it doesn't add the carbonation but it's it feels like you're drinking a flat soda and like when you're on the mountains it's just like you know what this ain't bad yeah it's not it's not terrible but like morale is huge when you're suffering morale is everything and then I'd say [0:37:02] Cameron M also one of the biggest things that a lot of people don't prep and people need to prep more to get these hydration salts honestly I would say that at the end of the day that might be one of the most important things to prep is hydration salts and if you're if you're like hiking camping anything [0:37:20] Dave Reilly like that what a lot of people don't realize is that like the more you're sweating if you're just [0:37:25] Cameron M drinking water you're not actually going to be more hydrated if you're hiking more if you're [0:37:31] Dave Reilly moving more if you're rucking more and you're just drinking water you're actually going to feel worse then if you didn't drink water at all wow because if you're not getting those vitamins and the minerals Episode 85 and and all the the essentials you're going to feel worse but some like you know sweating you know that's your body excreting all of these salts yeah and you need to replenish those salts [0:37:55] Cameron M and I didn't even know it like even my entire time in the army I didn't even know that [0:37:59] Rebecca Hargraves like that's not something that's not something that's not something that's not something that's [0:38:05] Dave Reilly taught cheese and and I didn't even realize that until like I don't know maybe a year ago or two years ago of like while I'm out hiking of you know like depending on how far I'm going like if I'm [0:38:17] Cameron M doing like a 20-mile ruck I'll have like three hydration salts through the entire thing wow [0:38:23] Dave Reilly like hydration salts are huge and it's it's incredible how much better you feel like through the entire process and it's like so I mean because like sucking down water you're just you're just going to [0:38:35] Cameron M feel I don't know full and you're not going to feel like better right right it's and it's it's it's fascinating like once once again like once you actually start doing it yourself and and another thing [0:38:48] Dave Reilly is that like that that might not even work for everybody like liquid IV might not work for everybody and you have to go out and find out what's going to work for you because unfortunately we are all different yeah now here uh hold up your bag uh because you've got hold on I'm going to stand back [0:39:02] Cameron M this thing is heavy that's fine and by the way it's crazy I've seen these videos of him going [0:39:07] Dave Reilly rocking through the mountains and he picks it up like it's nothing that weighs like 60 pounds I don't understand I guess I'm just weak which is fine but it is it is a heavy bag I'm not gonna lie very heavy bag well so and you can you make that look like it's nothing well you can you can tell [0:39:24] Cameron M it's a heavy bag and like you'd have to zoom in to actually see it I've done videos on this but like I have and you guys can see this like I've had to sew all of these like stitch points here oh yeah because it is it is a heavy bag and uh and everything's like I mean it's any fabric no matter what but like things start to rip over time and the only reason now this is a uh philvia salt pack so this is the marine issue a salt pack and this really is rated for like [0:39:51] Dave Reilly Episode 85 20 to 30 pounds and the only reason that I'm able to have this much weight in it is because I [0:39:56] Cameron M took one of the uh the modern hiking packs made by Eberly stock and I took the kidney belt out and I [0:40:02] Rebecca Hargraves just started like ripping and tearing and I I modded this out so it's kind of this is like a um [0:40:09] Dave Reilly mutant of like two backpacks put together nice because I did not like the uh the belt system that came with this and something also with like going out in the mountains and hiking and training a lot is you figure out what you want right and there's there's like some things that I want and like [0:40:26] Rebecca Hargraves I like they don't exist it's not on the market yeah so yeah that is I was gonna say this is something [0:40:32] Dave Reilly else that uh I wanted to kind of talk about which is that you do these you do these like meetups where you just like go online and say hey we're gonna go like dig a hole come hang out yep we're gonna like hike 20 miles and dig a hole and then people show up how do you how do you that's amazing I've been like terrified to do IRL organizing because it's like you know feds you know what what is so how do you how do you navigate that how do you build a local community uh around this kind of ethos self-sufficiency and all of that while at the same time kind of like avoiding feds well so you have to understand that uh you know through all of human history um spies have existed [0:41:21] Rebecca Hargraves we didn't like recently invent spies like that's not something that like just started being a thing [0:41:29] Cameron M we just named it feds so like a lot of people they they get so obsessed with feds and federal informants and I've been called a federal informant and uh I have I've I have I have had especially by [0:41:45] Rebecca Hargraves this one who's been calling me now I'm getting Davis for sure a fed there's just no way around it [0:41:51] Dave Reilly or Cameron one of us you can send a check to PO box 853 post falls Idaho 83877 potent I am still waiting on my check for the 2016 election Mr. Putin yeah really do you want to tell the story last night of of where's my check oh yeah worst timing possible yeah we were talking about [0:42:14] Rebecca Hargraves the $7,000 and like how it's like a birthday party and even if you don't like the kid you still want to be invited and we're like you know where's our where's our fucking $7,000 invite so we have like the tiniest little server boy coming around to pick up our our dirty plates and Dave suddenly goes where's my check and the kid was like no no no no I didn't mean that I meant like the Episode 85 [0:42:42] Dave Reilly Israeli government paid me money for posting pro Israel for all of our dishes that fuck these people by the way speaking of Israel it wouldn't be a backlash episode if we didn't mention something about our friends in the Middle East uh the ceasefire has been definitively broken uh they happened two weeks ago well not quite I mean they did break the ceasefire within like six hours of signing it but that wasn't like officially wasn't there two ceasefires broken last week though they've broken every single cease like thousands isn't it like two thousand or something like that a little over two thousand ceasefires that they have broken everything from what I understand every ceasefire they have ever signed they have broken uh but now we are at a point where the Israeli government is officially not allowing aid they are not allowing supplies to go into Gaza they were bombing Rafa last night and then this was going on uh there were some Americans over in Israel uh this guy Jasper Nathaniel and he says that the IDF lured him and the Palestinian farmers he was with directly into an ambush and then sped off and that the US embassy told him that they could not and would not protect him and there are some text messages going around showing how he was literally texting directly with the US embassy in Israel like they're fucking shooting at me will you protect me and the US embassy was like sorry no nope that's what they're supposed to do [0:44:16] Cameron M well it was just like you were saying last night that like you know if if an alcoholic that you've been friends with for like a decade and he keeps saying that you know oh I'm gonna stop drinking and and he tells you you know what guys I'm gonna stop drinking this time for real and then he takes a [0:44:29] Dave Reilly shot are you going to believe him like no I promise I'm this is the last time takes a shot bro that's [0:44:40] Rebecca Hargraves where we're at that's where we're at but if you're really codependent with the alcoholic though yeah then [0:44:45] Dave Reilly what like okay this time hey I did a hecking memory I did the thing going going back to feds [0:44:54] Cameron M because we just got off of that or do you want to keep going okay going going back to feds a lot [0:45:01] Dave Reilly of people forget that that spies exist that feds exist it's a thing and that the the actual spy is [0:45:08] Rebecca Hargraves this oh yeah like this is this is the real spy this is this is the actual fed like the the fact that [0:45:14] Dave Reilly people have this in their pockets at all times and then they're worried about you know oh well what if I link up with somebody and that might be a fed I'm like you have a cell phone on you right yeah it's true yeah what are you talking about like so true like okay yeah someone might be a fed but like you Episode 85 [0:45:34] Rebecca Hargraves have a cell phone on you yeah yeah yeah speaking of spies we do have the community notes W2 report [0:45:41] Dave Reilly uh this is from the New York post Virginia Jeffrey was left bloodied and beaten by prime minister in attack that broke Epstein spell quote beginning of the end and of course in the story in the tweets [0:45:57] Rebecca Hargraves they don't mention who the prime minister was but the community notes does and she was referring to [0:46:04] Dave Reilly the prime minister of Israel a who'd brought oh who beat the living shit out of her she's dead right uh I believe is she dead I think she is but I don't think it was suicide I thought she died in a hospital can you look that up chat she said suicide it chat chat do you know about Virginia Jeffrey do you know how she died and please tell us one if it was intentional too if it was the Israelis suicide get the fuck out of here there is no way that she committed suicide yeah I know come on I think she has said before I will never commit suicide right right that's incredible holy fuck died by suicide her family said yep wow totally yeah this Epstein thing is definitely not going away Thomas Massey by the way has the votes to release the Epstein documents and they are trying their best to get Thomas Massey out of the government they'll just do another government shutdown just conveniently at the time here's the here's the uh the trust the plan thing on the government shutdown that I've been the trust the plan thing on that is that in order to fire federal employee employees you need to give 60 days notice and so from what I understand there may have been notices shipped out at the beginning of the government shutdown and so the goal is to keep the government shutdown for 61 days which will allegedly allow [0:47:34] Cameron M the administration to like cut some some dead weight I don't know if I believe that it's a rumor it's [0:47:40] Rebecca Hargraves also tiresome it's all so tiresome okay her father at first accepted the alleged cause of death a suicide but on May 1st he said that somebody got her oh wow and by the way I also I solved [0:47:54] Dave Reilly uh the mystery if you heard about this there was a jewel heist at the Louvre over the weekend really yeah and I I I solved I solved it that was like the first thing that he said this morning [0:48:06] Cameron M that he solved it that he solved it I like I had no idea we always talk he's like I solved it I solved the [0:48:10] Dave Reilly thing I know I know I know I know what I'm like what are you talking about 40% too much autism see 60% I know I know I know what happened to the jewels and I'm like what are we talking what what fucking jewel French investigators are using an Israeli security firm led by a former shin bet chief to assist with the investigation of the Louvre's daring jewel heist so like can we get a over under on polymarket on whether or not Jews stole the jewels what do you even do with with those jewels it's not Episode 85 like you could pawn them right you gotta do like take them to a pawn shop like I do love a good high story though yeah I like the ocean yes oceans uh 13 or whatever it was not the woman version though the woman one was there was a chick one oh if you okay so so here's the thing though kind of like twilight where like if you if you go into the chicken the chick oceans one like viewing it as a comedy like if you go into it like with the mindset that it's a comedy it's hilarious wait what is it called I said chick oceans 11 and it said oceans women version I don't I don't even know what to do with a good like oceans 11 women version that's what she just let's see oceans eight oh okay oh god who's in it Sandra Bullock let's see here what do we got she Jewish it was it was so over [0:49:34] Cameron M the top and then so another thing that like I thought was so funny when I was watching this and I'm like of course they always have to make the black chick like the smartest like tech person it's the magical [0:49:47] Dave Reilly Negro yeah I'm just like I was like why is it always like you guys got Sandra that Sandra Bullock [0:49:53] Rebecca Hargraves and a bunch of no names okay okay can't blanch it no it was it was like quote-unquote star [0:49:59] Dave Reilly pattern this is a star-studded cast yeah no it was it was all just like really popular and there's [0:50:05] Rebecca Hargraves that the the one chick from uh from fight club I don't care yeah and she was like the the yeah right [0:50:15] Dave Reilly there yeah yeah in the blonde one yeah it was it was all like and even just watching the commercial it's just like oh this is it's so over the top very cringe it's so painfully over the top and like the chicks in jail and she's just like oh what in the world even I don't know what that is okay I'm [0:50:39] Cameron M not searching that no you're good I was just like what did native what did native patriot say oh that's a keyboard with a scope on it got it I still I did that's another guy that native patriot lives [0:50:53] Dave Reilly so dang close to me and I've been bullying him to come out and rock with me but somehow somehow he's [0:51:01] Rebecca Hargraves always busy he's always got a podcast to do here I am calling him I'm calling him out on the podcast [0:51:09] Dave Reilly what's up no I he's in great shape I just want one like like just come out with me then [0:51:14] Rebecca Hargraves Episode 85 so being a leader he's been getting very very anti-Semitic oh good yeah well that's so nice to see [0:51:20] Dave Reilly it's crazy oh it's so delightful it's like let's get the Native American Native American alliance yeah no [0:51:28] Cameron M and white people so uh he he invited me uh to his uh his last Halloween party and he was home lander [0:51:34] Rebecca Hargraves and I was like I was like I see what you're doing there everybody's been silenced into thinking that being anti-Semitic is the worst position to have for your reputation but historically it has [0:51:50] Dave Reilly been the most popular I'm good I produce a show for a living I'm able to show you that this morning how do you find that I went to your Twitter and I googled chicken Google you googled chicken on my Twitter yes okay I just want to by the way isn't that funny how we just like we reference looking things up as we're going like doing it like it's just it's just it's just like no matter where you are [0:52:12] Cameron M it's just doing it it's a query it's a query uh but no so this is one of the other amazing things that [0:52:17] Dave Reilly I see from you so it's like not only do you go training oh by the way do you want my wife made some [0:52:24] Cameron M brownies and some pumpkin bread I've eaten so fatty this weekend I swear it's okay you're gonna burn it off because I know I know I know I know you know hiking I've got I've got three day FTX come [0:52:36] Dave Reilly up this weekend but how is this possible not only that you're like going out and hiking 20 miles with a 60 pound backpack and a gun but then you're also bringing your chickens along with you and what like this is how you're getting your eggs in the morning look at look at this how the fuck do you hike up there with a chicken please so the the chickens have like and it's funny too that like I like quote unquote got like canceled recently for like the whole rooster thing yeah don't clock at me [0:53:09] Cameron M but uh no like chickens have kind of been my thing for like a couple years now and it's like it's [0:53:15] Dave Reilly like a fun mascot and uh honestly like when you're out in the mountains and uh you have you know like an animal with you you know it it is like a morale thing and then it's it becomes like this kind of like VIP sort of thing is that Ian throwing up that's totally Ian throwing up I am trying to find more chickens there you go there's some more chickens oh that's Karen you name [0:53:40] Cameron M Episode 85 your chickens no there's like specific ones that like if they have like features or if they have like personality then they get a name and uh like the rooster that uh that I got the haircut is that what that's why the the rooster that I uh that's literally just 10 minutes of chicken's eating food [0:53:57] Dave Reilly that's that's amazing like I just recorded them eating for 10 minutes but no um like when you when [0:54:02] Cameron M you bring a chicken out with you when you bring any animal out with you you know it has like a [0:54:06] Dave Reilly it's like a focus where everyone's now focused around you know protecting this thing taking care of this and it's it kind of takes you away from like the suffering a little bit nice and it takes you out of it of like and it's like it's like oh like a bird and it's it's just something yeah I don't know like how to like explain it psychologically I just want to know like how did the thought even begin where you're like I'm gonna bring a chicken with me this time uh so when I bought my current house it came [0:54:36] Cameron M with like 30 chickens okay and uh like before we were about to go out to one of our hikes we were [0:54:42] Dave Reilly just like joking about it like like what if we took a chicken with and uh and like I actually think I think it was uh uh my buddy that said it and I was just like uh and I he was joking and I was like [0:54:53] Rebecca Hargraves let's do it like oh like actually like actually and we just we went down and we had uh at the time we [0:55:00] Cameron M had a bird that was named Sergeant Henney and uh and we just like she was like the most like docile bird that you just walk up to her and pick her up and uh and we put her in a cardboard box and we took her [0:55:10] Dave Reilly out in the mountains with us and she would just ride on your backpack nice and and then we started going on hikes and we just we're bringing a chicken with us and like and then we started to realize that and one of my last rucks we realized that roosters will not stay with you at at all they do not they just wander off they just wander off well but uh the the chickens will stay with you because you know the hands the hands yes um and you're where the food is and like I don't know if like the females are smarter or the chickens like the roosters are just more bravado or I have no idea what that's about [0:55:44] Cameron M but uh yeah no uh we just started doing it more and more and it's just it's fun and it's entertaining [0:55:51] Dave Reilly and it's good to have that reserve food just in case just in case yeah and uh so another thing I bring my dog everywhere oh just in case we've it's a pair of chopsticks too and maybe some seed oil just in case Episode 85 you need a little salt no we have big dogs by the way that's why I got them fucking yeah yeah we have yet to get eggs out in the mountains that might be a thing I don't [0:56:15] Cameron M they have to be like they have to say yeah they got to be like comfortable somewhere that's warm [0:56:21] Dave Reilly so like I I you might have to be at the same location for you know a few days and bring out some hay with you or something like you know maybe you know one one of the next challenge it's the get the get the get the handle lay on the rock challenge you know what the uh the next uh the next [0:56:36] Cameron M bushcraft event where we're all in like the same area off to bring out like a bag of hay or something [0:56:41] Dave Reilly like that and see you have to prove to her that you're financially secure yes you will want to see your bank accounts uh huh before she begins laying yeah she's able to be like talking to her about Bitcoin and she was popping out at chicken's just like is this a stable stable household I don't I don't know you seem angry no we uh we do we do have some uh super chats I think that we should probably start getting to uh just in case uh please visit the backlash dot net slash super chat if you would like to send something in our first one comes to us from unreconstructed human who send 25 dollars interviews there's no time for interviews civilization is collapsing get your S4 gear monkey ass back to the warehouse and pack my order and don't short me on ducks this time also great call [0:57:32] Rebecca Hargraves on dying ACU keep plugging that oh and death the Bitcoin listen why do people hate on you for Bitcoin [0:57:40] Dave Reilly Bitcoin is not about it ad nauseam it's amazing it's money it's the future it's uh you know it's a big deal he spurred to me a lot last night about oh god well I was just talking about how we were thinking you were complimenting our heater which is a very powerful heater no it's it's an it's an [0:57:58] Rebecca Hargraves impressive like like you like my heater let me talk to you about that okay that's that's that's literally that is literally what happened as I was just like wow man that heater is pumping out some heat and [0:58:09] Cameron M then he went like immediately that went into Bitcoin and how he could win miners yeah how he could [0:58:15] Rebecca Hargraves heated the entire house with more power is being able to relate any subject to Bitcoin it's like so [0:58:21] Dave Reilly your dad just died well do you have an inheritance strategy with Bitcoin are you sure that you have [0:58:28] Cameron M Episode 85 the private key secured to the last uh super chat though um I got I struggled and got to this point [0:58:36] Dave Reilly of like my company now where I don't have to live in my warehouse so you know I can now yell at other [0:58:42] Cameron M people to package orders like that's why I hired people so like when people are telling me like [0:58:48] Dave Reilly get back into warehouse package my order I'm just like no I don't have to do that anymore I don't have [0:58:53] Rebecca Hargraves to do that and even when I'm even when I'm at the warehouse I'm not packaging orders I was like cuz I did that for years and I hated it yeah this is why I couldn't be a serious employer because I [0:59:06] Dave Reilly would be so abusive to my employees just for fun I'm like jokingly abusive like I'm not actually in there like beating them but like I'll tell social media I'm beating them oh yeah well you got to I mean you gotta make him do like what 100 push-ups a day right so that is something that is something we actually do though right and that's that's a form of phasing that's also like I do take I do I do take out my employees into the mountains with me so that is listen all you gotta do is just [0:59:32] Rebecca Hargraves sign a nice NDA and you're fine you're golden what do you call it type two type two fun type two fun [0:59:37] Cameron M type two fun no I do take my employees out like to the range and on rocks and to PT and like out in [0:59:42] Dave Reilly the mountains and to FTXs and like that's what's an FTX like a field training exercise field training exercise so an FTX is when I hear FTX I think Bitcoin of course you do I think crypto no I think I [0:59:53] Cameron M think about Jews I think about Sam no FTX is usually a two plus day event okay and you're doing like [1:00:01] Dave Reilly multiple things throughout the entire event okay so like we used to have in Boy Scouts we'd have this like Klondike thing that we would do like the Klondike camp out where you know you'd go out into the the woods in the middle of winter set up camp and then the very next day you would have like 10 things that you'd have to do and you'd have like one of those dog sleds and so you'd have to like run [1:00:26] Cameron M and pull the dog sled with all of your equipment on it and then like light a fire and get it to like Episode 85 [1:00:32] Dave Reilly burn to a certain height in a certain number of minutes okay yeah no it's it's a lot like that you have to do like these certain things then depending on how quickly you're able to accomplish the task [1:00:42] Cameron M somebody wins and then they get like a trophy yeah no so like a lot of times we'll we'll like park [1:00:48] Dave Reilly somewhere and then we'll rock into the woods and we'll find a good spot that's like somewhat [1:00:53] Cameron M near water depending on how long we're gonna be there and we'll dig a hole I actually started recently selling sandbags just so I could start plugging sandbags because we use them so damn [1:01:03] Dave Reilly off them nice and we'll we'll get a couple layers of sandbags trying and you know what building a building like a fighting position actually takes a lot more than you would think is it not under oh it's under sand baggy sand baggy why would it be under okay no it's understanding how many sandbags oh you get 50 sandbags for $37 that's not bad less than a dollar sandbag we were actually [1:01:26] Cameron M from my last stream we were talking about because I don't know why but I was getting some superchats [1:01:32] Dave Reilly and people are asking me to send pre-filled sandbags and that they would pay for the shipping and I'm like why you realize how much that's going to cost right and they're like yeah we'll pay for it I'm like they're like we want the PNW dirt I was like do you want me to ship you a pre-filled sand like I'll [1:01:53] Rebecca Hargraves do it I'll have my employees do it but like you want like like the okay fine I guess all but yeah [1:02:02] Dave Reilly no it is it is a lot like that yeah the customers never wrong but it is a lot like boy scouts where [1:02:07] Cameron M you know we'll go out and we'll dig a hole and our plan is to you know sleep out of that hole and operate out of that and then you know that's like the place that we always come back to we'll have [1:02:15] Dave Reilly like a radio guy there and we'll have a couple people that usually stay there and we're just you know doing like small little I don't missions I guess out out out of that nice it's always different that we're doing we're always trying to do things different but we we got to do that you got to get some like babysitters and we're gonna go like kill ourselves we're gonna go out on like a rock one of these days here no that's gonna be funny and no world am I doing that no oh yeah no I want you to get b-roll of me that Episode 85 would be like primo contest I mean we can T and what [1:02:47] Cameron M at not going on a rut no I mean we could like we could do like you know like a small hike it doesn't [1:02:52] Rebecca Hargraves have like because a rock you know like that's that that's that's that's awful and it's just like [1:02:57] Dave Reilly you're doing like think of like because a lot of people don't know what rucking is it's just like okay [1:03:00] Cameron M if like you know everything about hiking take out all the fun hmm wow sounds amazing and then add a [1:03:07] Dave Reilly 50 pound backpack yeah and bad shoes it's terrible shoes there you got to do tubs hill how about that that's what yeah I was I was suggesting that yesterday but we never made it I still haven't done the tug tubs hill hike oh it's okay let's be real it's probably good that we didn't do that yesterday because it would have just been did would have been dirty down pouring on us and then you would have been giving us the worst luck no I was I mean we were out there shooting in the rain and it was fine I mean like no no I'm talking about you I'm talking about you calling the like bad things that were going to happen like oh yeah and then it instantly happening so we're on the way to the gun range right we're on that over and doesn't it was it was it was honest it was impressive it really was we were on the way to the gun range we went down to Hayden Creek and so you know we're driving out hadn't seen a single car the whole ride out right and I'm like hey I think this is great I think will be the only ones there you know it's right and before the words even finish leaving my mouth we came up on another truck that was Hayden like he's saying there and we're turning a corner and we see another truck and I was like oh you have to say it so we're not the only ones there so then we get out you know we like get all the gear spread and you know getting everything set up and a little peak of sun came out and I was like oh look at this the sun's coming out so maybe it'll stop raining instant down port it just start like the size of the drops of water increased by 150 percent you know what's happening right then it just pelting so then I just looked at them and I was like well hey there is one good thing about this and that's I've never had an ND never [1:04:43] Rebecca Hargraves negligently we're both like why would you say the look of terror on their faces was absolutely [1:04:54] Dave Reilly hysterical and by the way we were two out of three I did not got it's funny for your little Wendy optimism that's what's going on it's fine all right Queensborough Bridge enjoyer sent $10 colonel Jeff Cooper the godfather of modern gunfighting tactics one said that owning a piano does not make one a musician quality firearm instruction is just as important as owning ARs and AKs for those on our side who doubt this matters spend a few minutes browsing [1:05:21] Rebecca Hargraves reddit far left gun groups true do you remember that negligent discharge that happened in Chaz no I talk about this all the time I just talk about it all the time because it was so funny so Episode 85 [1:05:31] Dave Reilly they just like gave AR 15s to trainees well they gave it they distributed them equally for diversity reasons and a chick bro indeed her AR 15 I think she like blew off a guy's leg what yeah at Chaz in Chaz yeah that's I don't remember hearing I don't remember hearing about really funny really really I'm not like I'm not who was the name of the it wasn't there like a black warlord that was [1:05:55] Rebecca Hargraves going around with like an AK like a drink yeah you know it's like what the fuck I actually went to Chaz did you yeah I tell myself I had to see it myself it was like it was exactly what you would [1:06:08] Cameron M expect like just complete I'd say of everything that I saw though the most there's two things that [1:06:14] Dave Reilly sit out the most that was just comical it was unbelievably comical of them trying to grow food oh yeah so I remember that they like didn't lay the mulch properly and everything was no no no they tried to [1:06:27] Rebecca Hargraves go on cardboard they tried to date that was that was real yeah and I'm like there's no way like I have [1:06:32] Cameron M to go up there and also by the way I did not blend in at all by the end of it I had people following me [1:06:37] Dave Reilly nice and I was like okay I need to get better at being looking like a I don't know how do you I don't even know how you look like don't shower for about a week yeah um and then you know throw up a little bit on yourself yeah yeah okay it's it's really hard to like blend in up there honestly I like the flannel the flannel's just not enough you can use heavy drugs for a month that might do it might bring up speed week you wouldn't pause you don't need a whole month just smoke a little just smoke [1:07:08] Cameron M a little crack and you'll be right there you'll get really drunk really high and walking there [1:07:12] Dave Reilly stumbling yeah that would probably get you know my old apartment was in what became chance really [1:07:20] Cameron M that's unbelievable yeah them them trying to grow food on top of cardboard and then like a half [1:07:26] Dave Reilly inch of dirt was uh that was incredible that was really incredible these people it's great you know frankly it's just about it is just about to make we don't have to beat them we're already better yeah let let them go really just have to survive longer longer right if left to their own devices they'll Episode 85 [1:07:42] Cameron M just die so another thing that was really funny is that they had all these like uh these like [1:07:46] Dave Reilly uh food stands and like it was like free food and uh they're you know they're trying to do like the [1:07:50] Cameron M communist thing yeah and so they had all this free food and what was what was happening is that they [1:07:55] Dave Reilly had to keep putting up signs and then they had to like have like security or like what they're trying [1:08:00] Cameron M to like do his security because the bread line well all of the tweakers kept coming in and just taking everything what because well it's free like why why wouldn't they yeah sure and I'm like wow this is like a this this is just this is a perfect representation like you guys were able to just [1:08:22] Dave Reilly show communism yes just wonderfully and it and it it it rose and fell so unbelievably quickly like I can't believe how much you screwed this up or I guess did communism perfectly because that was yeah that was communism well this is this is like how I had my transformation was I was a part of I was like one of the organizers for occupy Boston back in the day like I think I was on the I was the [1:08:51] Rebecca Hargraves chairman of the committee to house the unhoused we were like we were talking about like taking over [1:08:56] Dave Reilly like a bank building that was empty because it was 2000 it was like after 2008 so all the bank buildings in Boston were empty and it's like well shit let's just go like break in and take it over but the you know we came up with our committee proposals and then we had to meet at the general assembly and the only way that we would do anything is if it passed by a democratic vote and literally within 30 minutes I'm like fuck this democracy doesn't work what else we got what else we got going on fascism what's that okay cool let's let's take a look because this isn't working democracy definitely doesn't work and so you know then I was kind of like too inefficient maybe the constitution is good so that kind of got me for like six seven years you know it gets yeah it does get you're like oh this this is you know very you know it's compelling it's like oh we have rules right all these rules that be nice but then people don't follow rules [1:09:49] Rebecca Hargraves so it doesn't work so fascism all all roads lead to fascism well so what's what's really funny though [1:09:56] Dave Reilly and and I was saying this in one of my recent YouTube videos I'm hilariously talking about Israel but uh that there's there's so much that's out there that will make you open your eyes and you don't have you wouldn't have if you actually sat down and you watched it then you can be like oh fuck oh I was wrong the issue is though and I did the exact same thing and I understand how people ignore the truth is that it Episode 85 looks like and it comes across like you know autistic spurging and people just ignore and like when the more and more that you're you become awakened you start to see what's going on you start to you know see what what some influencers have called like the matrix and understanding that we kind of live in the matrix and that's the the western world specifically is you know the matrix [1:10:50] Cameron M but it's it's fascinating you know looking back on it like when when you bring up a topic and then you [1:10:55] Dave Reilly see like on Twitter that someone posted like four videos and they're like four really long videos of like you know a rabbi talking and then they have you know like you know this long you know explanation of everything and you go oh you're crazy I'm not reading all that and you flip and it's so much easier to just say you're crazy yeah next yeah yes this is exactly what I was thinking of this is what [1:11:19] Cameron M I was thinking of let me get this pulled up this took took a minute to find oh it's not the whole thing oh I know I know I know I know I know that I know that I know that you're talking about yeah G what [1:11:29] Dave Reilly yeah it's just like oh wow democracy meme where it's like oh wait no it's there to look here it is here it is right where it's like oh this is such shitty quality well whatever we're going to run with it anyway they just want democracy they don't give a shit about democracy I don't and it's like yes welcome to the pipeline yeah welcome to the pipeline this is this is how it works it sucks though because like you know and I've said this to I don't know how many veterans I've said this to I don't know how many people on like the left they're like libertarians of like bud I get it I know I was right there and you want to hold on to that delusion you want to hold on to it you want to hold on to that hope and you want to hold on to the all things can't be that bad they can't well think there's no way the government could be evil well there's no way that a foreign government would be controlling what's going on in our kind of cute you know but it is like oh you sweet summer child yeah oh you you poor thing yeah like I remember that with oh we're bringing up the [1:12:39] Rebecca Hargraves oh yeah no yeah no I'm doing what I want people looking at that TV I'm sorry let's be [1:12:45] Dave Reilly looking at that one on the screen is is prep I will I will say though like I I think that maybe I [1:12:51] Cameron M thought that was funnier than everyone else but I thought it was hilarious we have a super chat from [1:12:57] Dave Reilly our sponsor North Idaho tello company who sent $10 or thank you very much for for the super chat enjoy the cheesecake so glad you enjoyed a sneak peak of our november sent any tour of our little [1:13:08] Rebecca Hargraves factory while you're out yeah how did that how did the cheesecake taste buddy it was really bad Episode 85 [1:13:13] Dave Reilly it was really good it got it got stuck in my teeth to be fair all the soaps look delicious it looked delicious don't eat the so people come on we had to tell this to Vince yeah to tell this to Vince it's like buddy what are you doing like don't eat the soap but we do have to give a bit special shout out to our sponsor North Idaho tello company at Idaho tello.com it is you can bring [1:13:34] Rebecca Hargraves it with you while you rock you should have it in your prep kit just in case the world collapses and [1:13:39] Dave Reilly Walmart gets rated by wonderful youths you want to have your own supply of soap go to Idaho tello.com [1:13:45] Cameron M how about that so it's it's not just the soap though but like on ironically like I'm huge chap six [1:13:50] Dave Reilly snob and I've been really really enjoying this chapstick and my husband swears by it too yeah no it's like [1:13:56] Rebecca Hargraves in it what is it with you facts he brings it out in the field I got to wear chapstick what the fuck oh [1:14:03] Dave Reilly really I'm sorry I care about the moisture I say my lips sometimes he comes home from drill and his lips are so cracked before I sent him with this no like for like bloody on the side. No like for [1:14:14] Cameron M all though like especially like the colder months when you're outside a lot yeah like it your lips will [1:14:18] Dave Reilly just start to crack and they'll start to bleed yeah and it's it's it's uncomfortable and it's painful and and like on ironically there are have you considered there's not going outside no no but [1:14:34] Cameron M like historically a lot of people would use like the the fat of animals on their lips and like that [1:14:41] Dave Reilly that was a thing yeah of using like the oils of animal fat for your lips and like that is so like tallow just makes sense yeah I wonder what like I mean you know it's a shame that we like killed all the whales right didn't mean like we we killed all the whales because we were using their fat for for so been lanterns and oil I bet you that whale blubber would have been like far superior speaking of [1:15:05] Cameron M Episode 85 I was I was asking you how the the beard bomb how it lathered and then like if you could actually [1:15:11] Dave Reilly wash your hands afterwards yeah because I don't know how many beard bombs and you know what maybe [1:15:15] Rebecca Hargraves that's like an autistic thing for me I don't know but like after I use some sort of of beard bomb [1:15:21] Dave Reilly sorry wrong camera like that's something that's so aggravating for me is not being able to wash it off my fucking hands afterwards like I hate feeling like like have you tried it yeah no I did right [1:15:35] Rebecca Hargraves poor it doesn't work yeah doesn't wash off yeah no I washed off great oh nice okay like if anything like [1:15:39] Dave Reilly my hands almost felt like moisturized afterwards and I'm like hey this is made with like real things [1:15:43] Rebecca Hargraves noise isn't that hey fuck you oh and I'm not gonna tell you how I know this but I did send some Idaho tello with somebody before a drill weekend and it helps with inner thigh chafing well how about that so if you know why are chafing I don't tell you that probably wouldn't be a hard product to like [1:16:08] Dave Reilly transfer into of stick and like anti-chafed cream interesting that that probably would not yeah that probably wouldn't be a hard transfer from like lip bomb into into that are you listening I could I could totally I would buy that we have a super chat okay so no no oh yeah well actually we missed this super chat from last show I think from Glamdering who sent ten dollars send these Wang half for Dave that's a Fuente's reference Google it money brothers there to be did we read that white ass niggas going hardest fuck yeah yeah yeah yeah anonymous sent ten dollars gorilla man if I'm just starting out prepping and have nothing in a low budget what should I be prioritizing first juice [1:16:56] Cameron M box juice box juice box biggest thing is gonna be a backpack like honestly like the first place to start [1:17:02] Dave Reilly out with is is going to be a backpack because you need to put the things in a thing backpack good pair of shoes spare pair of souls like don't just have one pair of souls if anything and it's free you can do [1:17:15] Cameron M this for free go to like any shoe store and have them actually size your feet and get your your [1:17:22] Dave Reilly insoles of your feet sized and then buy the insoles for your feet that is going to be that is going to Episode 85 [1:17:29] Cameron M set you up for success so much and then you know and there's there's a lot of good brands of of shoes on the market I really like Solomon's that's my go to there's so many people that recommend all kinds of boots but yeah the biggest thing is going to be a backpack good shoes some sort of water carrier [1:17:47] Dave Reilly and then like you know I mean like there's there's so much like as soon as you have that there's so much hiking that you can do there's so much walking so much running rucking like there's so much that you can do with just that and then you know walking's literally pretty nice and get the [1:18:00] Rebecca Hargraves military grade stuff if you can like my husband has given me some stuff I have a backpack just like that and it has been going strong for like 12 years well you have to think too like a lot of like military [1:18:11] Dave Reilly surplus and a lot of like military gear it's it's made for like the dumbest fucking private like it's made to withstand the dumbest of the stupid soldiers that like you know don't know how [1:18:24] Cameron M to take care of their equipment don't know how to take care of themselves and they're just stupid 18 [1:18:28] Dave Reilly year olds like that is that is the best place to start we sell our backpacks they're all right [1:18:34] Rebecca Hargraves yeah what's the name of backpack like ruck rucksacks or like let's see yeah the molly too the molly too [1:18:42] Cameron M is a decent starting point I would say for like rucking and training it's not bad at all it's that's what I have that is your backpack with top right the middle right middle right yeah no the molly too the molly too is fantastic that's still what I train without in the mountains it's still what I'd ruck with if you're going to be putting more than like 55 pounds in a molly too I do recommend [1:19:06] Dave Reilly going out and buying a upgraded frame there's also the medium rucks a lot of women actually like the medium rucks and a lot of like shorter dudes like the medium rucks because the frame is a little bit smaller if you know what's this one this one's even this one's 300 yeah no that's yeah that's that is the one that I use I don't think we have those in yeah that's sold out right now because [1:19:29] Cameron M m81 is a older camouflage and a lot of people just are obsessed with it myself included [1:19:35] Rebecca Hargraves it looks way cooler than the new yeah no it is and like all the pouches that are on this bag right here Episode 85 [1:19:41] Cameron M are also used on that the in my opinion you know m81 is just the perfect camouflage for [1:19:48] Dave Reilly Washington state it's just a greener it just works man but the the marine issue stuff is and this is a marine issue backpack with army issue pouches all over it it's like desert camo well so and you can't tell as much anymore but I painted it and what a lot of people don't understand and what the [1:20:08] Cameron M last super chat was saying of like teaching people how to die in paint gear like so many people like [1:20:15] Dave Reilly they don't have very they don't have a lot of money like who has a lot of money right now not many people not many people so you buy cheap equipment and you fucking paint it like it's so easy to just paint or use a rit dye and change the camouflage to something that fits your area so that's [1:20:34] Cameron M something and I've made a couple of YouTube videos on it and maybe I need to dive more so the the backpack there in the middle right yes that that is the one that I'm using right now we were supposed to get those back in stock friday they will be back in stock this week that is like [1:20:50] Dave Reilly if you're trying to to run like under 30 pounds like as like a day pack as something to keep in your [1:20:56] Cameron M vehicle that is the backpack that I recommend that is the one that I keep with me every day that it's [1:21:02] Dave Reilly just it's perfect because it has two foam pieces in the back that run along your spine and it's just it's just comfy it's just comfy and there's so many packs I don't know why they don't take into account that you have a spine and then you know you're like a human's person yeah I don't know I feel like a lot of people that like make backpacks and make rucks like forget that people have to use it like Pete it's made for people yeah I don't like yeah I've used so much gear now where I'm just like who fucking made this yeah like who was this for each one being really what's kind of like a like like the like the n64 controllers right where it has like three yeah that was goofy yeah it's like who made this fucking like like who who was this designed for but I do think it is very important because I you know I'm always on my parents about this too where I'm just like hey what are you doing this my sticker oh that was my they're not a sponsor of the show they don't get just they don't get free ads no way um but no I was because I'm always on my parents about this I got another buddy who lives just outside of Philadelphia and it's like you need to be ready to bug you got because if something happens you you need to have a full tank of gas know where you can get with the full oh [1:22:22] Cameron M there we go oh wait wait wait hold on hold on wait no sir there's the old one I still have old ones [1:22:27] Dave Reilly Episode 85 nice nice thank you that's awesome thank you because we have like the uh the new like logo of like we're all talking about last night of like dropping gorillas from space oh yeah this can live on my [1:22:39] Cameron M laptop no um so actually uh to caveat off of what you said um and I was just sparking about this recently I would say that instead of being prepared to leave your house I think that the more people [1:22:55] Dave Reilly need to be more prepared to get back to their house oh yeah that is the most important thing [1:23:02] Rebecca Hargraves because I mean how many people that work nine to five aren't at their house the vast majority of the day [1:23:07] Dave Reilly right and that's your home is like you know this is this is your layer this is where you're going to come back to this is where your food is this where your supplies is this is where you have the four corners in the roof and it stays warm yeah you're at least out of the wind you want to stay here as long as you possibly can and the issue is like you know the vast majority of Americans work about 18 to 22 miles away from their home so that's another reason that I host the 20 mile rucks quarterly is because I firmly believe that men need to be able I mean women to but men need to be able to walk [1:23:40] Cameron M at least 20 miles from wherever they work and get back home realistically you know and call me a [1:23:45] Dave Reilly sexist but I feel like women should be at home taking care of the home of the children [1:23:49] Cameron M well I know I know I'm a sexist oh no oh no I'm gonna get haters for that one speaking of haters I [1:23:55] Dave Reilly think we've got a couple of superchats from one Jill did send $10 I got kicked out of a PNW guerrilla associated meet-up group after I implied that the America is supposed to be a white country didn't even say others need to be gotten rid of that didn't happen okay what I don't know man that's crazy [1:24:16] Cameron M is it no that doesn't that doesn't scrape me as a dad are you sure you were in like a 3% or [1:24:22] Dave Reilly meet-up maybe wait did you say PNW or PNW affiliated no I said PNW guerrilla associated meet-up I don't [1:24:29] Cameron M Episode 85 have any associations there's no one that's affiliated with me it's you and nothing else there's nothing [1:24:34] Dave Reilly oh you got scammed brother yeah yeah see this is how fed see feds like oh we're gonna have a PNW guerrilla rock but it ain't there was actually there was a Seattle group that kicked up and they were saying [1:24:46] Cameron M that they're affiliated with me for a while so it might have been that but there was a Seattle group that kicked up and they were saying they're affiliated with me and I had to track down the leader of [1:24:53] Dave Reilly that and say change your name right you can continue I'm not saying you can't have a group but change your name yeah you are not affiliated with me I don't know who you are right so maybe it was that group but like I am affiliated with no one it's just me I'm not starting trying to start like some nationwide like network of militias or anything right right like it's just me and a couple of friends and go out in the mountains and then some chickens and we go out in the mountains and train [1:25:21] Cameron M and if you want to come out and train with me you can do that and Karen and and your own [1:25:26] Rebecca Hargraves discretion at your own peril perhaps and I have two events coming up in the next couple [1:25:31] Dave Reilly of weeks yeah if you want to like plug those yeah so November 1st and 2nd we are doing a hobbit hole bushcraft dig so we're gonna be going out in mountains and building and digging a hobbit hole we're gonna have a cover for it and we're gonna be building a hearth and making bread and then sleeping next to a fire in this hobbit hole and it's I'm excited for that we already scouted it we know we're gonna go and we went out there and stashed some shovels and some supplies I'm I'm looking forward to it of which I had a post that went semi-viral and people were like why why were you at a people [1:26:07] Cameron M people are saying like why were you at a harbor freight buying shovels zip ties and electrical tape [1:26:11] Dave Reilly that's kind of weird bro and I was like host open events yeah I was like I'm not hiding a body I swear yeah that one is weird as here it is this is a November 1st and 2nd hobbit hole bush crafting event open invite you can DM him or comment if you would like to participate and then on November 14th and 15th he's doing a 20-mile open rock Lord of the Rings themed and then where's the you sell these two right these uh no so I was selling those they're a Romanian canvas cloaks [1:26:43] Rebecca Hargraves so it's actually a it's it's a a tarp that's made out of canvas and then it has a moon shape [1:26:50] Cameron M Episode 85 into it with a rope and you can use it as a as a cloak yeah look at this I mean this is great you dug it's like a trench yeah that's actually like that's that's like four different diff yeah that's [1:27:02] Dave Reilly like four different holes that we've dug holy shit that guy that guy looks awesome this guy some [1:27:08] Rebecca Hargraves braver that's that's that's Huck that's that's my that's my that's my second-hand dude right there what's [1:27:11] Cameron M up Huck that's an awesome guy and and you can tell that guy's cool you can tell that his name's Huck by [1:27:16] Rebecca Hargraves the way he's dressed oh yeah but yeah so that's they what it's not gonna be exactly that poncho but [1:27:23] Dave Reilly the wool ponchos um I have a I'm working into a affiliate kind of deal to start reselling wool ponchos and I'm really really excited with that because wool is wool supremacy and I think that ponchos capes and cloaks uh we're we're bringing it back boys so yeah we're bringing it back [1:27:42] Cameron M right heart with a big super chat $50 he very much uh if you can hear my voice he'd these words [1:27:49] Dave Reilly all the prepping you can possibly do is useless if you're doing it by yourself join patriot front and never be isolated again I have no opinion on patriot front I'm gonna be honest with you I know everyone wants me to have an opinion on patriot front and I just I don't know I haven't I haven't talked anyone I've been pretty open about like in 2022 2023 whenever they got arrested I was very [1:28:16] Rebecca Hargraves like uh uh don't do it it's bad we have that paranoia though we have but I'm extremely paranoid and [1:28:24] Dave Reilly here's the thing though it was after that event after they got arrested and they were you know they had to come back for court uh like 31 of their members were being unjustly tried in court they were illegally arrested their phones were illegally seized searched hacked and then the contents of their phones were disseminated to leftist groups and over the course of reporting on the trial and interviewing members of patriot front my opinion of them did change yeah uh every one of the kids that I met uh was upstanding good guy um and and honestly I trust Reinhardt so much I do but if he's advocating for patriot front I think we should uh we should try to get Thomas to come on the show be good to talk to him yeah I mean like you got to do what you got to do right like make your own decisions I I'm not associated or affiliated with any groups because I've seen how that works and sometimes it doesn't work out well but uh for the most part the patriot front people they're they engage in legally protected free speech the right to protest is guaranteed and I think it's nice that there's a group of people out there exercising that right uh and I don't do that but you are associated with groups the backlash LLC yeah very true the Episode 85 multimedia conglomerate the backlash the media empire I think that a lot of people forget how much of a primal instinct it is that men want to belong men want to be they want to be respected they want to be liked they want to have [1:30:05] Cameron M friendship they want to feel like they are a part of something bigger than themselves and if you don't [1:30:12] Dave Reilly like the patriot front if you don't like me and my group start your own group and it doesn't even have [1:30:19] Rebecca Hargraves to be like tactical based I don't know how many times I have said this and I'm going to continue [1:30:23] Dave Reilly saying this of if you want friends if you want to train if you want to go to the range if you want to do anything just start doing it yeah yeah go to your local church and just start talking to you yeah you can just do stuff go go to your local gym and just start talking to people it can be as easy as you know back when we were kids on the playground and you just walk up to a kid you're like hey want to be best friends it's true like you can just like you know get out of your little autistic you know bubble of like oh god oh no oh golly gee and you know maybe take a shot alcohol and you know muster up the confidence and just go talk to people yeah like it's the same with women and men like you know if you want a date with a woman you have to talk to women if you want to be friends with men you have [1:31:10] Rebecca Hargraves to talk to men yeah this is why women are always sharing their birth stories so I'll be five seconds [1:31:17] Dave Reilly into meeting somebody and I'm like and then the baby gave me a second degree tear and no this is [1:31:24] Rebecca Hargraves what women do and so they're able to bond over a shared suffering yep and and that's how women get in [1:31:30] Dave Reilly I think it's easier for women to make friends but if men can do that which is what you're doing I think will be in business yeah it's it's it's so much easier than people make it seem yeah and like [1:31:42] Cameron M you know not not to sound like a player or anything like that but like talking to women is so much [1:31:47] Dave Reilly easier than men make it seem yeah it's like all you have to do is walk up to a woman and understand [1:31:54] Rebecca Hargraves that I'm probably going to strike out yeah just accept the rejection and be like and she was probably Episode 85 [1:31:59] Dave Reilly a dumb whore and it's okay yeah like I'm pro she's probably gonna say no yeah what does she says what does she says yes yeah never know like excuse me miss you are very attractive would you like to go out on a date with me yeah that's it it's all you have to say I have gone out of date with every man that has ever gone up to me and asked me that and yeah because I was like this takes a lot [1:32:21] Cameron M of guts you got to reward them you got to reward him yeah no like like how I met my wife was I just [1:32:26] Dave Reilly I just tried something different yeah and I just walked I had a dating cards made like business [1:32:32] Cameron M cards and I had my name and my email on it and it said like dysfunctional veterans spunky AF and I just I walked up to her and I was just like hey you're cute and I handed her a card and I [1:32:44] Dave Reilly fucking left nice email you I should call me nice like it's it's that easy that's brilliant that's [1:32:51] Cameron M like that's all that's all you have to like and I'm not saying you know you have to try the dating [1:32:55] Rebecca Hargraves card thing but like you just just go up no that's really smart though go up to a man and just be like [1:33:00] Dave Reilly hey man would you like to go to the range sometime would you like to go on a hike like would you like to go do something outdoors with me yeah like it's you just have to talk to people yeah very true and [1:33:11] Cameron M you know like what I've been doing on social media works for me of just hey I'm gonna be here at this date at this time if you'd like to show up show up yeah and then you can vet people yeah you know last another thing like you were saying earlier like well how do you know they're not feds [1:33:27] Dave Reilly well the fun thing about people is that people like to talk yeah and you will find out if someone's a fed because they're gonna they're going to talk especially if you're out in the mountain suffering [1:33:38] Cameron M like I we had a guy come out and we found out that he was military intelligence because he fucking [1:33:43] Dave Reilly told us and then as long as you're not doing anything illegal right or if they're like suggesting Episode 85 [1:33:51] Rebecca Hargraves that you do illegal things that might be a red flag yeah well he also then asked us if you know [1:33:57] Dave Reilly we wanted to have a class on how to commit felonies and get away with them and I was like hey maybe [1:34:05] Cameron M no yeah I was like um you need to leave yeah and he's like okay and I was like yeah no you no like [1:34:14] Dave Reilly okay ray ups GTFO but I was also like why would you say like why would you say that yeah like who would have like filter not working it's kind of like the the same thing with like a lot of like the Indians scams and I'm just like who the fuck is following like who's falling for this why did you do it even why did you even choose liberty sent $10 hey guys another great showing guest good reminder to dust off my bush crafting backpack pro tip spend the extra money to save weight titanium is better than steel feather better than cotton film etc every ounce adds up that is true uh from my boy scout days I remember that was big deal now here's the question that we have all been waiting for have you ridden a horse my guess you weren't lying I wasn't lying about this it's a thing have you written a horse yes I've written horse you have written a horse what kind of horse was it I've always did it have a saddle I was I was like five were you bear back I was you bear back you were five I just know that I did okay it was on a beach you have written a horse that sounds lovely you wrote a [1:35:21] Rebecca Hargraves horse on a beach yeah it was like a big family trip wow that sounds pleasant was it sunset I I know [1:35:27] Cameron M that it happened okay I'm gonna be honest with you I just know that I have that's fun that's [1:35:34] Dave Reilly this but I honestly like I wasn't sure that like that question was like you said that the question [1:35:38] Cameron M was going to happen I was like I was like oh yeah here it happens it happens um I mentioned no [1:35:44] Dave Reilly to write a horse I'm with book trackers uh we we I do remember that he gave his homework but I go through so many super chats I've forgotten what the homework was we're so popular send me an email and remind me what my homework is I feel like I'm back in school now uh because yeah that's kind of how I operated if I get a large piece of property though I do want mules okay yeah I think they're good workers uh like like Ryan uh because then they can pack and you can write it each time [1:36:11] Cameron M let's see I've heard they're more stubborn but like they're stronger than and they can go longer [1:36:15] Dave Reilly Episode 85 than horse scan um we have one over on Rebecca's channel and I think there was an older one that I cannot access anymore there was a super chat from a long time ago uh I don't know if you can pull that up uh but P N W at P N W R his recent Gen X rant Gen X has the highest debt cares for aging parents and growing kids are considered too old to hire paid into social security but will reap none we aren't boomers leave Gen X alone no Gen X is kind of a mixed bag man well they're so they might have missed that but I did have kind of like this like revelation of like and I'm sorry but like Gen X for the most part is kind of like irrelevant for the most part it's the fight between the zoomers millennials and the boomers well so the the thing is that like I do train with some Gen X guys but they're [1:37:11] Cameron M younger Gen X yeah so it's like I'm sorry but I just kind of view you as like older millennials yeah [1:37:17] Dave Reilly and then like the older Gen X they're just boomers yeah yeah so it's it's not like that I have anything against Gen Xers it's just kind of the disappeared generation yeah it's like you guys like for the most part you were just fine like you were there yeah so there is a game out of Gen X I was gonna say there is also there is a distinction among the boomers there are two kind of classes of boomer there's the older hippie woodstock boomers which absolutely stock and then there are the younger boomers that have kind of like you know woken up and you know they're aware I mean there are cool boomers yeah I like our boomers now the boomers that I don't like are like these pieces of shit I don't know if you guys saw there was these no kings protests over the weekend look look at these people did you see the one that was claiming to be there was one that was claiming to be a world war two vet and was saying that like I fought fascist back then and I'm fighting them now that doesn't that doesn't make sense pro how old [1:38:18] Rebecca Hargraves was he he claimed to be like 101 and I'm just like oh well you're just seeing I owe them yeah [1:38:25] Dave Reilly yeah so anyway mostly old people oh yeah mostly old people at this thing I think I saw a tv reports that we're even talking about yeah that was over on apple way well that's because they believe everything they see on the TV because you know a lot of boomers praise to you know pray to the TV the TV's their god yeah by the way we're not gonna talk about local politics we only missed one from my channel really what was that Chandler Lee do you see that one no I don't okay [1:38:58] Rebecca Hargraves blonde the story about your daughter and rug island warmed my racist little heart as a new father [1:39:03] Dave Reilly to a four month old do you have any advice for indoctrinating your children to be similarly racist [1:39:08] Rebecca Hargraves for their own safety I mean I I straight up tell my daughter like listen not all black people are bad [1:39:14] Dave Reilly but but they're they're just you're more likely to be a victim of violent crime if if there's a white person around and that's why we live in a predominantly white community okay the Indian thing might Episode 85 [1:39:25] Rebecca Hargraves have gone too far she did ask one little girl one time why she was Indian she just walks up to her and she goes why are you Indian and then okay so my daughters five we let her watch the temple of doom with Indiana Jones yes we close her I cover her eyes during all the the eating of the heart yes so I close her eyes during all that so we also like to watch this YouTube channel called the village [1:39:49] Dave Reilly cooking channel and it's these very lively Indian guys cooking organic food for the elders of their community do they pour all of the ingredients out on their hands before it goes in there but everything seems really clean and they're taking care of their own community and it's like you can't [1:40:05] Rebecca Hargraves understand what they're saying so it's it's clean content and she has an Indian perspective so [1:40:09] Dave Reilly last night she's like mom did the people from village cooking channel start their YouTube channel before [1:40:15] Rebecca Hargraves after they were in the temple of doom I know and so now my daughter's totally convinced that the Indians from the temple of doom are the Indians from the village cooking channel that didn't answer your question no I just I'm just honest with her I'm like listen this is why we live in a white community not all minorities are bad but they are self-interested and if things get hard if we don't have any money or we don't have any food they're all going to be on the same team and we're all going to be on the same team and that's just the way it is holy shit oh my gosh gold's going to hit 4400 gold is up 170 dollars [1:40:51] Dave Reilly today that's not good that's not good this is this is not good yeah do you remember what you said last night do you remember what you said last night I had a martini so I disavow everything that I said [1:41:03] Cameron M he was he was going off on how like Bitcoin is the future and to stop wasting your money with gold [1:41:08] Dave Reilly I did say to sell some gold and then he told me to sell some gold and I was like no no and you know [1:41:14] Rebecca Hargraves why would you do this we have sponsorships to uphold I said sell 5% of your gold and maybe [1:41:19] Dave Reilly rolling this is not financial advice he did he did he did well he was he was drunk listen he was silly this is this is like objectively not a good situation for gold to be going up 170 fucking dollars in a day it's not good that's bad and I need to direct you to atlas bullion dot com slash backlash if you need to get some gold because like where you should sell your Bitcoin and buy gold you could do that too do I get a discount you could do that I want to get some I'm pretty sure that if you called Kenzie and we're like hey Episode 85 I've got 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characters I think that that is actually important for your cognitive health no that's something I did a lot in college actually is uh just climbing a mountain and just reading nice like that's I do recommend [1:44:00] Rebecca Hargraves keeping a book with you like that's not so I know you're making a joke but I do agree no I'm that ass and you could find that book over at at all publishing dot com please visit them please [1:44:13] Dave Reilly patronize them they've got a lot of other really good books too they've got I'm working on this one right now stimulus is uh which is like a fiction book that they published they've got like a second imprint called jackalopill where they print fiction oh really yeah and it's like about like an underground goofy it's a clever name it's about like an underground pedophile network within the Pentagon that like a whistleblower finds it's fascinating it's and it's also kind of nice to read something that isn't just like here's how the Jews fucked over your society it's like oh okay this is like that should only be 90 percent it should only be like 90 percent but uh yes they've got a lot of really good things also intolerant interpretations very good book we had uh the author josh niel on the show a couple of months ago well worth the read analogue publishing dot com and of course once you've bought all of these books you need a backpack to put them in and you can get that backpack at odggsupply dot com uh they've got all this ape-approved gear tense thermals um so those uh those flex tern uh Gore-tech suspenders but you're just yours aren't these ones right yeah those ones um those are the cheapest wet weather pants [1:45:16] Cameron M Episode 85 you are going to find on the internet and on ironically when we were looking at the whole digging uh videos or photos that was that's actually what I wear that's what I recommend I keep a uh pair of those in the [1:45:26] Dave Reilly back of my car like at all times I don't know what it was with the uh with the german military but they just they make things I mean like it's like german supremacy I don't know what it is but uh yeah no uh for 20 bucks Gore-tech suspenders like you can't beat it they're unbelievably good yeah that [1:45:43] Cameron M that these guys too these uh ponchos yeah if you have uh suspender pants and then a poncho over with like you're just you're dry now yeah no and that's one of the biggest things I mean I remember [1:45:54] Dave Reilly from like being in boy scouts on this stuff staying dry is such a huge deal because if you are wet uh everything sucks 150 times more well so that's another reason that like I now keep a change of clothes [1:46:04] Cameron M on me like at all times and like I have a change of clothes in here yes and uh you know of course if [1:46:09] Rebecca Hargraves you get one of these ponchos you can do something fun like this and uh you can do some target practice [1:46:16] Dave Reilly shoot at the water that does look really fun yeah and and that gun by the way what was that is that [1:46:20] Rebecca Hargraves was a ruger that's the uh a ruger 1022 charger tactical uh so it breaks down into just this really [1:46:28] Dave Reilly small package and I found a cci and winchester make a suppressor 22 ammo and it is unbelievably quiet I mean like and I've never been out shooting with suppressed weapons before until yesterday and it's [1:46:45] Cameron M it's a whole different ballgame you don't act you don't need your pro you can just hang out and shoot and it's quiet yeah no it does like amazing the the pulling the trigger is quieter it's yeah [1:46:58] Dave Reilly pulling the louder sorry yeah the pulling of the trigger is louder than the actual bullet fly wow [1:47:03] Cameron M unbelievable I've never experienced anything like that yeah I know like we can tweak you out in the back Episode 85 [1:47:06] Dave Reilly yard right now and just shoot it and like no one would know yeah it doesn't I don't know it doesn't [1:47:11] Rebecca Hargraves how are they gonna know no one's gonna know like it's it doesn't even sound like an airgun it's [1:47:17] Dave Reilly just nothing right and that is another thing that we talked about that I want to put out there is airsoft it's fun and useful apparently yeah no airsoft in the in the modern age I mean like and we were talking about this too with like how much nerf has like advanced and it's just like what what even is this man it's like nerf guns are cool now they didn't used to be cool but yeah no airsoft for force on force training is huge and that's something that I preach and I probably should start preaching way more is that you know if if you expect that someday you're gonna be fighting your enemies how can you do that if you can't even fight your friends true you know so like even in mutual [1:47:55] Cameron M combat like when it comes to airsoft and just trying out tactics and just like you know splitting up [1:48:00] Dave Reilly your friend group of like four guys over four guys over here and just all right we're gonna try to take each other out and you just try things nice like you don't have to go on like hardcore tactics [1:48:09] Cameron M with it just try things not only that but I highly recommend you know just wrestling your friends [1:48:14] Dave Reilly yeah like like like on ironically it's like just just do things you can just you can just do things [1:48:21] Cameron M that's amazing but yeah like how are you gonna be able to fight your enemies if you can't fight [1:48:23] Dave Reilly friends I just I don't know how to preach on that anymore so make sure you are following PNW gorilla he is on x at PNW gorilla he is on youtube at PNW gorilla but most importantly you can go to our newest sponsor of the backlash you can go to odgsupply.com and get yourself outfitted get yourself prepared for whatever is coming because something is brewing oh yeah totally I can smell it [1:48:53] Rebecca Hargraves there and we're gonna talk about that on Wednesday Cameron will be back with us we have I have a [1:48:59] Dave Reilly crit in studio special guest I have the in studio week not as special as you though thank you so [1:49:05] Cameron M Episode 85 much for joining us I do want to like I want to not like trying to be weird but like if he lives close to me I want I want to know that because I'm like I'm like whoa is he is he in my area or is he [1:49:16] Dave Reilly like I'm like I thought he was Canadian is he Canadian I don't know I think I might have made that up [1:49:20] Cameron M I don't know if he's in my area I'm like I'm like hey what what's up do you like hang out do you want [1:49:25] Dave Reilly to wrestle you want to you want to rock and wrestle let's go let's go do you want to fight [1:49:31] Rebecca Hargraves yeah really well thank you for joining us find all of our links at the backlash.net we will

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