Episode 89 — Europe’s Revolt Begins in Ireland — Keith Woods Explains the Coming Backlash

Episode 89 Episode 89 — Keith Woods Episode 89 Episode 89 — Europe_s Revolt Begins in Ireland — Keith Woods Explains the Coming Backlash.mp4 [0:02:41] Rebecca Hargraves Welcome to the backlash. I am your host Rebecca Hargraves joined as always by Mr. Dave Riley. How you doing? Good. How are you? How am I I'm at a new clear level pissed off and I have to stop talking about Thomas Massie. I have to stop Talking about Thomas Massie. Yeah, we have other more important things. Yeah, like how was your Halloween? Oh, you have a good trick or treat? [0:03:05] Dave Reilly My husband took my daughter and I stayed in with my sick baby. Oh, yeah Sick. Oh, because your family gave up my family some discuss Dave calls me the other day or talk about something innocuous [0:03:16] Rebecca Hargraves And he's like, oh, we just have a little fever situation some respiratory stuff in the meantime my daughter's like burning up like laying on like I knew it was you It's just whooping cough. 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Thank you to Atlas Boolean premiere dealers of Golden Silver Ida Hotel [0:04:21] Rebecca Hargraves Hello, that is skincare without endocrine disruptors and analogue hill white positive publisher. We really appreciate it now To our guest Keith Woods is an Irish far right nationalist writer podcaster focusing on anti-immigration and racial nationalism. Thank you so much for joining us today. Keith [0:04:40] Cameron M Hey, thanks for having me on. It's good to be here. [0:04:42] Dave Reilly You've been doing great work. We've been following what's going on in Ireland with great attention. And it's been really uplifting to see. I loved your video that you did Outside of the migrant hotel with the flames and the background. We were joking that you actually started that fire for the for the clicks. I assume you did not Episode 89 [0:05:00] Rebecca Hargraves Yeah, maybe I should go on record and say I know to do with that fire. No, no, of course not. Um, so let's get ready. [0:05:07] Cameron M I was there to document the events. [0:05:10] Dave Reilly That's in his rallies. We're seeing Europeans rebel in droves. It feels like every week we're covering some sort of new protest in Europe. [0:05:21] Rebecca Hargraves But we want to talk about Ireland. What issues are specific to Ireland right now? [0:05:26] Dave Reilly And how does the Irish nationalist movement differentiate itself from other European movements? Well, I mean the the city west is a case in point of we've had these very high profile cases of violence from In this case in the silent secret that was supposed to have been deported months ago, but also legal immigrants as well. But this is something that has especially become noticeable in the last three, four years. There's been a few high profile cases [0:05:56] Cameron M That was the one that kicked off the huge riots and Dublin a couple of years ago when an Algerian migrant stabbed children outside of school and Dublin. There was a high profile case in county Sligo where most of them migrant beheaded to gay men in Sligo. Recently this one in city west [0:06:16] Dave Reilly Was a migrant that was actually ordered to be deported months ago. We have this really ridiculous lack system where there's like self deportation orders Enforced for people are supposed to deport themselves and if that you thought to They just hang around and write people I guess. So that's what happened [0:06:33] Cameron M He kidnapped a ten-year-old girl that was in state care [0:06:37] Dave Reilly And I think took her to the premises of this hotel, which is actually the biggest hotel in Ireland And it got totally taken over by the state in recent years to repurpose it specifically for asylum seekers because the numbers have just Exploded through the so-called I pass system. Do you know how many of that hotel houses? [0:07:00] Rebecca Hargraves Sorry, do you know how many of that hotel houses? [0:07:05] Cameron M Episode 89 I don't know the exact capacity, but it's in the you know, it's in the high thousands and it's the biggest hotel in Ireland and the numbers of [0:07:11] Dave Reilly Asylum seekers coming in used to be like 200 to a couple of thousands a year Since like post-COVID it's around it's over 10,000 a year now. It absolutely exploded [0:07:23] Cameron M And there's never really an explanation given for that you know, I hear this in the UK as well on political discourse [0:07:29] Rebecca Hargraves They say things like we've more conflicts now [0:07:32] Cameron M There's more war in the world Climate change. I mean, there's actually there's fewer conflicts now than there was like 20 30 years ago And the countries these people are coming from replaces like Algeria Nigeria, Georgia is a big one Albania places where there aren't conflicts [0:07:48] Dave Reilly So it's very clearly just being manipulated the system is being exploited by legal immigrants [0:07:54] Cameron M And that's absolutely exploded in recent years [0:07:57] Dave Reilly So I think that's that's one thing that's kind of specific to Ireland [0:08:00] Cameron M This is problem specifically with illegal immigration and with the exploitation of the asylum system [0:08:05] Dave Reilly But obviously legal immigration has absolutely exploded here as well Especially post-COVID We have been out in 3% a year to the population just with legal immigrants which like You know, do the math forgot for the US like what's that like that would be like 10 million a year for the US So it's absolutely insane numbers and yeah, it is creating a populace backlash Slow to organize politically, but it's just been such like revolutionary kind of chaotic change in such a few short years what they've done to Ireland Do you see Ireland as uniquely vulnerable because of its population size Yeah, I mean 5 million I mean it's it's so easy to [0:08:46] Cameron M Flip the demographics of a country like that like [0:08:49] Dave Reilly Episode 89 We've always seen you know the UK has so much further long in terms of you know They're getting the the wind rush generation of immigrants. So we're getting like Caribbean immigrants Like from the 1950s on Ireland was still very homogenous up to the 90s [0:09:03] Cameron M But now one in four people here are far and born [0:09:07] Dave Reilly um [0:09:08] Cameron M So that's that's a change that's happened really in like two decades and really especially in the last 10 15 years um [0:09:15] Dave Reilly And if you look at the projections in terms of the birth rate has fallen very quickly [0:09:19] Cameron M Uh to begin up to 2010s are not actually kind of stood out and having an above replacement birth rate despite being a very [0:09:25] Dave Reilly Developed western country. It was like 2.12.2 Now for natives. I think it's below 1.5 [0:09:33] Cameron M So very quickly it it really is within a couple of generations [0:09:36] Dave Reilly You can see how this weaponized mass migration can replace the population and on current projections. I think [0:09:43] Cameron M You know 2040s maybe 2050s. You could be looking at a majority minority Ireland, which is quite staggering [0:09:51] Rebecca Hargraves I know um we talk a lot on the show. We actually got into a dispute about this a few weeks ago because I said Something about the white Irish and he's like you don't have to say white. They're just Irish and so it's redundant I understand that I understand that but we're having this controversy that I'm sure you're following in the United States Not everything is about American politics. I hate to do this to our European guests [0:10:09] Cameron M Well American identity is very different. What is it American right there? That is like an open-ended question Episode 89 [0:10:15] Rebecca Hargraves So there's been this backlash of uh [0:10:18] Dave Reilly To Nick Fuentes. Yeah, I had to say um [0:10:22] Rebecca Hargraves To Nick Fuentes and what people are referring to as his big tent to conservatism. So um with reference to EMJ and the dumb ass thing that he said about an Nigerian being Irish [0:10:31] Dave Reilly What roles you believe that race and ethnicity play in defining Irish identity? [0:10:40] Cameron M Well, I mean the Irish are an ethnic group and even this division between race and ethnicity. I mean I've written about a bit about this I wrote an essay about this on how [0:10:50] Dave Reilly Irish nationalists traditionally conceived the identity Um because obviously you have a lot of like revision around these questions now especially for country like Ireland That is like really you know, it's whole foundation as an independent state is rooted in nationalism So you do get a lot of revision from people in power basically to say no [0:11:08] Cameron M You know, they just wanted they were like it was like this general kind of anti-colonial thing [0:11:12] Rebecca Hargraves It was a fight for freedom. It was a fight for like a republic for people to have equal rights like that [0:11:17] Dave Reilly That's what they were fighting for rather than anything particular [0:11:20] Cameron M And I kind of just went through um [0:11:22] Dave Reilly You know the history of statements from the most important leaders and Irish nationalism and the independence struggle Uh, where they define it in these terms that it's about the freedom for the Irish people the Irish race conceived as [0:11:35] Cameron M Distinct European people um, but this idea like even the division between race and ethnicity [0:11:41] Dave Reilly Episode 89 This is again, it's something I've written about like this is only sometimes really invented like [0:11:45] Cameron M post-World War 2 [0:11:46] Dave Reilly You know if you if you read stuff from before World War 2 you'll see and and right in the old time don't talk about like the Spanish race to French race So that was used um, the reason it was separated is they said okay Well, you have race fine. You have these big groups of people like white people black people [0:12:02] Rebecca Hargraves But ethnic groups that's that's like a cultural component. Okay, so the French [0:12:06] Dave Reilly Well, they're not just you know, people of common descent. There's a unique French culture [0:12:10] Cameron M And then gradually of course over decades kind of decouple cultural element [0:12:15] Dave Reilly From the racial element and say no, it's just the French culture Which I historically uh, it was seen as to the Irish race the Irish ethnic group And the nationalist struggle was about independence for that ethnic group um, you know Within that there was ideological difference right because again This is something you'll get from like modern kind of [0:12:33] Rebecca Hargraves Shen fan types is like Irish nationalism is inherently left-wing. It's inherently Republican [0:12:40] Dave Reilly It's this universal anti-colonial thing And again, this is something I've written about is like you had you had guys like John Mitchell was probably the main the most influential Nationalist thinker and the 19th century in Ireland. I mean he He moved to the Confederacy and his sons fought for the Confederacy and he wrote You wrote essays in favor of countless slavery, right? So this is it certainly wasn't some like universal anti-colonial thing [0:13:08] Cameron M And but yeah, you had people that were very left-wing economically as well like James Connolly [0:13:12] Dave Reilly But what united the whole uh, you know the whole tread of these people Was there's a distinct Irish people People have come and said with their ununique culture and traits and ways And they should have self-determination and independence and that's that's what united all of those strands So I'd say you know race ethnicity. It's really inseparable um, and I would even you know I would reject the idea that those are even separate things I agree. Where do you draw the line between um nationalism and Episode 89 [0:13:46] Rebecca Hargraves universalist religious doctrine Dave's over here cringing himself today. I'm not cringing myself. I'm like I'm busy like looking up like [0:13:53] Dave Reilly I'm trying to find a picture of Aime and Dave Valera and [0:13:57] Cameron M I don't know. I'm like big into the the Irish Nationalist. Oh, yeah [0:14:00] Dave Reilly Because I'm like half Irish, you know my last name is Riley my family came from county mail. I've been I've been talking about like rekindling the ancient order of hibernians like start smuggling money and arms to Ireland like it's like white Zionism like can we please regain Irish independence we fought for it and then like lost it within what 40 years [0:14:22] Rebecca Hargraves white Zionism. This is how I know you're a fed. I'm not a fed Sorry, keep going [0:14:27] Cameron M What was your question? I don't even remember what your question. Where do you draw the line between [0:14:31] Dave Reilly nationalism and universalist religious doctrine? Well, I mean, what do you mean draw the line? [0:14:39] Rebecca Hargraves I mean, I think that they are at odds. I think it's a it's a problem in Catholicism as we're seeing [0:14:44] Dave Reilly them as we're seeing as we're seeing with the emergence of niquentes and and big conservatism in relation to Catholicism and I think that we're all going to have the same [0:14:56] Rebecca Hargraves problems in western countries. So do you think that nationalism and Catholicism specifically [0:15:03] Cameron M are at odds? Well, I think Nick was maybe misunderstood a little bit. I thought I clipped [0:15:10] Dave Reilly it was going right. I don't actually think he was advocating my birthright to the citizenship. He's never supported that. So I think it was just a [0:15:17] Cameron M Episode 89 unfortunately titled clip from a long stream. So I don't think he's suddenly like abandoned [0:15:22] Dave Reilly what it entered you or something. But as far as the question of like compatibility, I mean, I don't really like to get into the the religious wars that happen on the right which just seem to it just seems to be an endless. But it's so fun. But no one ever seems to actually change their [0:15:38] Cameron M beliefs. You know, it's just kind of a lot of fighting without anything really. And you know, no one [0:15:42] Dave Reilly is really like discussing it from like philosophical priors. It's just like kind of out of context quotes and stuff from both sides. It never seems very productive to me. But I mean, what I do know is like historically at least Christians, Catholics were able to support strong nationalism for their own country. I mean, you look at something like the the reconquest in Spain where they're just like, you know, basically, I think we cleanse in millions of Muslims out of Spain. So it hasn't been a hindrance historically, obviously since the 20th century that has changed. And you know, [0:16:15] Rebecca Hargraves part of it is you can say that the church has always been heavily influenced by whatever [0:16:20] Cameron M the dominant political trends were of the time. And that's certainly true now in terms of its embrace of liberalism. But obviously, I mean, I think it's undeniable that, you know, out of Christianity, [0:16:32] Dave Reilly you get the idea of universal human dignity. You get the idea of universal human rights. And the way these things have been weaponized. I don't think those those things are possible without Christianity. But then that goes for kind of our whole moral universe within the West, right? That goes for like [0:16:50] Rebecca Hargraves pre-World War II racist West as well. But certainly currently, I mean, the Catholic Church is a big [0:16:58] Dave Reilly driver of the worst of these policies in terms of their support for these pro-immigration [0:17:04] Rebecca Hargraves NGOs in Europe and the US as well. But, you know, if there are Christians and Catholics that are [0:17:11] Dave Reilly that support nationalism, that's clear. And like I said, historically, they've been able to [0:17:15] Cameron M marry that with their faith. So I would much rather encourage those people than, you know, Episode 89 [0:17:22] Dave Reilly trying to convert the entire right to one metaphysical worldview or something. It just seems to me very productive for a political movement. Yeah, no, I would agree. I mean, like look at look at all the old Irish nationalists. I mean, Amon, Dave, Valera, Michael Collins, all these people were Catholic, you know? And by the way, I would take I would take a little bit of umbrage with your characterization of the reconquest is ethnic cleansing. It was a it was a holy crusade. It was a [0:17:50] Rebecca Hargraves holy thing that they did. Okay. Hey, I'm not. We agree on that. We agree. I mean, I guess my question, [0:17:57] Dave Reilly I, I'm seeing that we do as Christians, we extend basic human dignity to all people, the [0:18:03] Rebecca Hargraves equality of the soul. But for some reason, that translate and translates into equality of opportunity, which translates into multiculturalism within our own countries. And I am not really sure [0:18:16] Dave Reilly that we're going to be able to undo this. Is this a problem that you're seeing in the Irish nationalist movement? Um, less so here. I mean, the church really has a backseat here. I mean, I think they were [0:18:27] Cameron M so grove and so demoralized by the abuse scandals that came out in like the 90s and early 2000s, [0:18:34] Rebecca Hargraves that they really kind of stepped back from politics. And anytime they do try and enter [0:18:40] Dave Reilly fear in politics, like even in stuff like the abortion referendum, it's very kind of a limperist, they don't want to offend anyone. And they're not really a political force in terms of the way, you know, like I was in Italy recently and they were telling me about like all of these NGOs with funding from the Catholic church are like, you know, bringing forward lawsuits for illegal immigrants rights not to be deported and so on. They're not really politically active in [0:19:05] Cameron M that way either. Um, so I mean, yeah, it's significant in terms of what they've said of like the [0:19:11] Dave Reilly history of Irish identity certainly has been, uh, tied to religion, Catholicism more than most national identities. And, you know, there's still a great number of Catholics within the nationalist movement. Um, so yeah, in terms of the church directly interfered in politics here, not so much. Yeah. Oh, and I would imagine, you know, it's, this is something really that, you know, and of course I'm going to get out here and I'm going to do my day thing, right? And bitch about Vatican too. Oh my God. Okay. You've 30 seconds. Got me taught us humane and all of this stuff, but you can definitely see how the post 1960s Catholicism was like weaponized in South America for color revolutions with liberation theology. And, Episode 89 and it was deeply used to pacify any kind of European, um, resistance to globalism to the United Nations to this kind of, uh, this idea of like fraternal human brotherhood has been promoted by the church. And like all of this stuff was condemned as heretical by Pope Pius IX and it would have been like any Catholic prior to 1950 would have looked at you like you had three heads. Uh, if you tried, you know, shilling any of this kind of stuff. Um, man, I wanted, there's a, there's a lot of, we'll get to it. I've got a lot of different questions about like this idea of the, the colonization of Ireland, specifically by big tech. Um, and how that kind of came in to play with the abortion referendum. But, um, before we get to that, I also wanted to point out. Do you speak any gay luck? Uh, a little bit, a little bit. I mean, not not enough for each to, to, you know, uh, be converted, uh, conversational on a daily basis. So I, I couldn't say I'm proud of [0:20:55] Cameron M how much Irish I speak. No, so it's okay. I mean, it happened, right? I mean, we have this whole [0:21:00] Dave Reilly diaspora thing going on back and forth with the Irish and American and adopting English and all this. But it is really interesting when I was in the seminary, uh, one of my friends, Father O'Heart, uh, who I believe is back in Ireland. Uh, I can hook you two up if you want. Um, he's a great guy. But it was so interesting because he was teaching me about, uh, gay, like, and the language, um, and just to, to add another layer on top of this is, you know, you have the Irish people, the Irish religion, which was Catholicism, but then even the language, um, when you say hello in gay, like, it's Jesus be with you, the translation. And then if another person enters the chat, it's Jesus and Mary be with you. And if a third person comes and oh, Jesus, Mary and Joseph be with you. And then it's like a giant litany of the saints. And that's how the language of gay, like is constructed. It's like inseparable from the Christian Catholic religion, which is one of the reasons why I think there has been a push to kind of remove galec from the common speech and replace it with English. And to that extent, do you think the Irish have become white? I mean, it seems like mass attendance is down. I remember talking with Dave Colin during COVID and it was impossible to find an open church where he could go to confession. I remember working on it for like a week and I couldn't find a church in Ireland that was open. There was two and it was like a three or four hour drive. But do you think that there is a kind of element of the Irish becoming white? That is to say, derasinated, decoupled from their ancient culture, decoupled from their language and their religion and, um, rootless in that way. Do you think that that has kind of happened? But I mean, that was something post-independence that Irish speaking never became as prominent as [0:22:52] Cameron M as they expected it to be or wanted it to be. And, you know, people has generally found found English a more useful language and it only ever revived within pockets of Ireland. So that's not necessarily a modern change there. And that's something that historically happens [0:23:11] Dave Reilly as well. As you see this a lot, nationalist movements oftentimes are tied to religion and language because it's something that differentiates them from neighbors. Like in Poland as well, or I was recently called policies and it's quite central to their nationalism because of course they're up against the Soviet Union who is trying to completely wipe out religion in that country. But then it's typical that as countries get independence, like their sense of self, their sense of being a distinct people kind of is decoupled from some of those things. But as far as the decline in religion, I mean, that is true. But I mean, I'm kind of subscribed to the secularization thesis that I think when you get modern societies, this is kind of just what happens. Like when people have the choice of what to believe, you kind of see what we're seeing now, which is in some more like England, church attendance is absolutely rock bottom. And there's like an increase in belief in God among Gen Z. But you find it's very kind of like new age, kind of choose Episode 89 your own belief type thing, like makes with different superstitions. But I mean, I just, [0:24:14] Rebecca Hargraves I don't know any developed country that has a strong Christianity with strong church attendance. [0:24:21] Dave Reilly And I'm actually not really convinced that you can have developed modern post-industrial society [0:24:29] Cameron M that has strong Christian beliefs. It just seems to me that everywhere that happens, religious beliefs collapse. I think there's a lot of reasons for that. But typically, they have been things that were very [0:24:42] Dave Reilly community oriented community focused. And people grew up in small tighten communities where they didn't have a sense of the millions of metaphysical beliefs and religions that are on offer. And it's always been something that's very much taken for granted. It just seems to me a function of modernity, you know, this kind of individualized view of things that we have that people take a more critical view of these beliefs. I'm not sure what can really be done to reverse that on a political scale. I mean, obviously, culturally, Christians can can spread their beliefs and so on. But I don't really see, [0:25:18] Cameron M I don't really see that going in the opposite direction, to be honest. [0:25:21] Dave Reilly Americans forget that the Irish have this storied, rich, unique history. Because as Americans, [0:25:27] Rebecca Hargraves we're all some kind of European ad mixture. The best ad mixture, of course, is Irish and Italian. Worst. That's the worst. I don't remember who we had on. It was a European nationalist, but I was [0:25:40] Dave Reilly asking him about other European movements. And he was like, do you think that we all just like work [0:25:44] Rebecca Hargraves together? So I had some questions about that. I mean, in terms of European nationalist movements, is there a camaraderie? Are you guys working together? Is the Irish nationalist movement [0:25:56] Dave Reilly the standing alone based on your unique cultural and ethnic history? [0:26:04] Cameron M Yeah, there's camaraderie. I'll be going to the Warsaw Independence March in a couple of weeks away now. That's a great meeting point for national groups around Europe. There's over 100,000 [0:26:18] Dave Reilly Episode 89 people attend this and you get national groups from every country in Europe going there. [0:26:22] Cameron M And I've spoken to conferences. I attended a meeting in Italy recently alongside the Irish national [0:26:28] Dave Reilly party. So there's definitely camaraderie. But I think sometimes maybe Americans look at it and think, [0:26:34] Cameron M well, you need to unify politically. I hear people say this to me sometimes, they're like, you don't [0:26:39] Dave Reilly have time for this Irish nationalism, Portuguese nationalism, German nationalism. You guys all need to unite. It's like, okay, what does that actually mean? Because you can test elections nationally and the way you're going to appeal to people is always on the basis of national populism and national [0:26:55] Cameron M issues, basically. So yeah, well, there's camaraderie and there's a common struggle. There needs to be a common continent-wide attempt at remigration and there would have to be collaboration between [0:27:09] Dave Reilly national groups in terms of rolling back all of this kind of human rights infrastructure and some of the aspects of the EU that are set up to frustrate immigration policy. But I think like the unit where people organize what's going to be politically important, where support is going to be drawn from is still the individual nations and the individual national identities that are still there. [0:27:33] Cameron M It can still be tapped into. A European identity never really emerged the way some people [0:27:38] Dave Reilly called it would. Even the founders of the European Union, it's like, the EU has been around for what? Like, I mean, 60 years. Depends on when you think of it. Yeah, I mean, depends on when exactly you said really started or which treaty you know, when we really had something. But a few decades [0:27:53] Cameron M anyway, and still if you pull people every country in Europe, do they feel more European or more like [0:27:58] Dave Reilly Swedish or Danish or French, they say they're on country and that trend is not going in a different direction. So I'm very much a believer that the nation state, the national group is still the group that we're going to organize on the basis of. And yeah, I do, I mean, I see it as a common struggle. I do like I post about pan-European issues all the time. But I think sometimes people [0:28:21] Rebecca Hargraves Episode 89 get a bit carried away and they're like, you know, let's, let's build like a empire in Europe and [0:28:26] Dave Reilly and have some like pan-European movement or something. It just doesn't translate politically. Francis Yockey coming from the grave, you know, trying to like re-resurrect that whole like the fascist international or whatever. But to your point, you know, you guys have, and I'm going to fuck up the pronunciation of this. I know it. But the doll, right? The the the Doyle or I don't know how the how the hell to say. Yeah. So that's your parliament. That's your like Congress if you will. And that's the that's the arena where you're going to need to litigate remigration. That's where you're going to need to to enact laws to prevent the the ethnic replacement of the Irish people. And so, you know, getting the EU to then come in and tell Ireland what to do. Like that doesn't make sense, right? This idea of trying to, you know, have a pan-European movement and then use the EU to enact laws. I mean, that just seems tyrannical. It seems kind of counterintuitive to to a nationalist, right? I mean, like isn't the whole point is your country, your people, self-governing independent, you know, and then to to a certain extent where you can collaborate or lend assistance between nations, sure. Why not? But you need you need your own independence first. And to that end, my question is, can we get an overview of the political parties and like the political systems in Ireland? I know that traditionally speaking, the Irish nationalist movement and party was Sinn Fein. But they're gay now. They're like awful. They're pro-abortion, pro-tranny, pro-gay, pro-migration. I don't really understand how the hell that happened. But they've gone way off. Then what's the other one? You've got Finnegale, Finnefale, and then a kind of new resurgence of smaller nationalist groups. You've got the Irish national party, Salon the Hiron, and maybe like Klan Iron, who's a Justin Barrett, I think, runs that. But I don't even know if that's a political party or more of like a street movement. Can you give us a little bit of an overview of these different groups where they stand and what the political system is like? Yeah, I mean, it's not going to be super exciting because it's [0:30:50] Cameron M like there's so little difference between any of these parties. Anyway, but Irish politics is weird [0:30:55] Dave Reilly because there wasn't the strong ideological divide historically. In the UK, you have conservatives [0:31:01] Rebecca Hargraves on the right and the member on the left. And you have something like that in most European countries. [0:31:06] Dave Reilly You have like traditionally what would have been a Christian-democrat party on the right and then [0:31:11] Cameron M a more like social democratic party on the left. Ireland was different because the entire [0:31:16] Dave Reilly political system was based on a civil war divide basically, which is you had the after-the-war of independence, a civil war, and the people that were forward, the Anglo-Irish treaty [0:31:27] Cameron M Episode 89 became Finnegale, the people that were more hard-learned Republican against said became Finnefale, and there was these two gigantic parties that were like ideologically very fluid, [0:31:38] Dave Reilly and people struggled to kind of define them like they would say maybe Finnegale was like a little more center-right kind of looked after small business owners, Finnefale, maybe more populist, but historically it would have been conceived as two center-right or centrist parties. [0:31:53] Cameron M And so there was never a big left-wing party. You know, again, this is something [0:31:57] Dave Reilly I misunderstand it for people as they say like, oh, Sinn Fein, like fought for independence, and then they gave the country a way to Muslims, whatever. It's like, well, Sinn Fein have never actually been in government, and actually the left have never been in government, except for us, you know, small minority parties and coalitions, but it was, yeah, it was a large centrist, centrist, centrist-right parties, Finnefale, Finnegale, that embraced, I guess what you call a kind of [0:32:23] Rebecca Hargraves neoliberal economic doctrine in the 80s and 90s of, you know, attract capital, attract multinational [0:32:30] Cameron M violence capital, make Ireland competitive on the world stage to attract investment, [0:32:37] Dave Reilly and just gradually into 2000s, it just, you know, it adapted to the, this kind of pan-EU Germany of liberal rights, of LGBT stuff, of feminism, all that stuff, and it just came in with complete consensus in the regime media, among the established parties. And so that's kind of, there's like this dominant kind of progressive center of those two main parties, and then you have like a smattering of left-wing parties, the dominant one is Sinn Fein, and that's really the opposition. And fortunately, another thing that's kind of unique about Ireland is, like you said, there's still [0:33:11] Rebecca Hargraves a perception that Sinn Fein are nationalists, and that's actually not just outside Ireland. [0:33:17] Cameron M When they pulled people on their attitude to immigration, the people that most oppose [0:33:22] Dave Reilly immigration actually in terms of the main parties are supporters of Sinn Fein. So even though it's very leftist, even though it's very internationalist and would be just as bad on immigration, a lot of its supporters are people that still perceive it as a nationalist Republican party and assume that they would have a different immigration policy. Now, that's not the case for a lot of their supporters, and they've actually lost huge support in recent years. A few years ago, it looked like their leader, Marylyn Macdonald, was going to be our next T-shirt prime minister, and in the last four or five years, they've lost a lot of support mostly from what was traditionally Episode 89 [0:34:01] Rebecca Hargraves like a kind of urban, Dublin working class base, and those people almost entirely have abandoned [0:34:07] Dave Reilly the cause of immigration. So yeah, now you have groups like National Party, which is the one I would support, smattering of other groups. Again, there's a lot of kind of factionalism every boomer seems to want to make his own organization. That's kind of a problem. It's this factionalism, but yeah, that's kind of the base, I would say, from which national groups, like the National Party, are drawing basis of their movement now, is this frustrated urban community that would have supported Sinn Fein. I know very frustrated and are seeing the effects of this very directly in terms of how it's transformed Dublin in a place where the University of Dublin is already minority Irish. So yeah, what's lacking here obviously is the big populist party. It's the big nationalist party with parliamentary representation. I'm part of that is what we discussed earlier that this [0:35:00] Rebecca Hargraves came so late and happened so fast. We almost haven't had a chance to properly react to this [0:35:06] Dave Reilly way other countries have, and so the challenge right now is like trying to, okay, how do you build a serious electoral force when these other parties have like a century head start in you in terms [0:35:16] Rebecca Hargraves of building at local levels and media support and so on? Let's say the Irish, they meet critical mass in terms of nationalist worldview. Are you optimistic about the Irish ability to use intra-systemic means like existing government infrastructure to protect Ireland and institute remigration. In America, that just doesn't seem possible for us. It's just so bloated and it's just we just can't operate within the current system of government, but it seems like an Ireland, [0:35:49] Dave Reilly you might actually have a chance to be able to do that. I mean, I think anything is possible if you [0:35:56] Cameron M have to state, right? I mean, as much as we might see EU laws or human rights laws and so on as [0:36:02] Dave Reilly problematic, I mean, ultimately those things can be basically ignored or torn up. If you have [0:36:07] Cameron M the state on your side, you can implement these policies. The only barrier is, you know, the public [0:36:14] Dave Reilly opinion turned against you and then people within the establishment that are opposed to putting roadblocks in place, but like these are all things that there's some level of public support on which you can overcome that. You know, like if if you've 99% public support, you can pretty much establish a dictatorship regardless of the international human rights law or what it says in your constitution. So these are all things ultimately that it's still a question about building support. You know, before we start Episode 89 talking about like, you know, independence institutions or working inside the system or so on, you know, it's still there to be contested in the arena of politics. I mean, you see in the UK, I mean, the UK is in huge trouble, democratically, and I think you can I think you can have that conversation of like, is that even reversible at this point when you have [0:37:01] Cameron M a second-term generation immigrant? So it can certainly be slowed. Lots of people can be sent back, but in terms of people that have been there, you know, their grandparents in a reddit there, [0:37:09] Dave Reilly they're certainly very far along. But I mean, even in the UK, like I wouldn't have thought it was possible five years ago, even five, ten years ago. I would not have told it was possible that in the kind of [0:37:20] Rebecca Hargraves electoral system they have, which is first passed a post, which is designed basically to have a [0:37:25] Dave Reilly true parity system. But within a few years, you can have the conservative parity. It's like that, [0:37:31] Cameron M I think it's the oldest political parity in the world, effectively wiped out. And Labour are not far behind. If you look at recent Poland in the UK, if there was an election tomorrow, Nautilus Frazier's [0:37:41] Dave Reilly reform would get like 75% of the seats, and then the green parity would get like permanent 25. And basically these two centuries-old parties, queries in Labour would be wiped out. So, you know, [0:37:52] Cameron M the establishment is always aware that they're never far off that kind of reaction. Now, in the UK, they have this figure of frage that can step up, and he's nationally recognized. And like the kind of [0:38:03] Dave Reilly the low information voter that doesn't really follow this stuff, just thinks there's too many immigrants, [0:38:08] Cameron M and those frages like the vaguely anti-immigrant guy, that's someone for them to support. That's easy. They just cast a ballot, and that can like revolutionize a political system. It's much more difficult, of course, when you have to actually build up a parity, and when, you know, constituency by [0:38:23] Dave Reilly constituency, and you don't have that nationally recognized figure, and you have to do a true community work. But ultimately, like regardless of the, you know, we can discuss like what's possible, how many people can you send back? How realistic is it? How much would people, how much would nationalists be blocked out of government, even if they became the most popular parity? You know, ultimately, Episode 89 [0:38:44] Cameron M any of those problems get easier, and so many more possibilities open up the more people are on our [0:38:50] Dave Reilly side, the more people are organized politically, the more people are willing to stand up and speak these things and support us. So like regardless of what the long-range political amaz, we still need to do work of changing public opinion and getting people on our side. I think that's still ultimately the most effective thing, and what the future will hold in terms of political outcomes. [0:39:10] Rebecca Hargraves I mean, we know this can know for sure, right? Right, right. So how much resistance are you facing in terms of let's say middle class, the middle class Irish to the spread of, I don't want to say [0:39:22] Dave Reilly ethno-nationalism, let's just say nationalism. Yeah, I mean, again, that's, that's kind of the big barrier here is certainly you can see like the city-west thing, I mean, that's an organic protest where within a few hours of it being announced, you had 2,000 people in this small kind of out of the way area of Dublin to protest this, and you see this again and again, the way the work in class will rise up against this stuff. But yeah, I mean, ultimately the kingmaker's in western mass society is the middle class, and it can be very frustrated to deal with how it works in terms of these are people largely that the side of politics based on status and based on the sense of being a good person and having the educated opinions. And so it's quite, it's quite a different, you know, it's quite a different proposition in terms of how you reach them. And that's where I think, you know, our [0:40:20] Cameron M movements does need to professionalize more, like the last few years, you know, there's lots of outrageous stuff online, there's lots of kind of engagement bait and rage bait and sometimes kind of like a [0:40:32] Rebecca Hargraves trashy like Jerry Springer's type stuff seems to be all the rage. But yeah, if we want to, you know, [0:40:37] Dave Reilly we want to reach new audience, we want to reach serious people and we have to show that, you know, we have serious proposals to turn our countries around. But you know, it's at the end of the day, we can all blame ourselves either, I mean, it's tremendously frustrating to agree to which the middle class in Europe will tolerate this stuff. Like in the UK in last week, there's like seven or eight, like mass stabbing. Someone posted them today, you know, like the guy got stabbed walking his dog. Black guy in a train would attack people with a machete and stab 10 people, like this stuff is literally every day in the UK now. And there's unfortunately, like there's just a very large percentage of our people that any time this happens, they'll use it as a signal against, you know, their top concern is the racist and the ignorant bigots and they're talking about how we all came [0:41:26] Rebecca Hargraves out of Africa. I mean, it's just, it's like leftist mind virus. There's just a portion of our people [0:41:31] Cameron M Episode 89 that it's, you know, they will never drop the white savior. Is that unfortunately? [0:41:35] Dave Reilly It's just incredible. I mean, years ago, I remember thinking there will come, we will hit some sort of threshold where it'll be, we're crossing the Rubicon and everybody will be awakened to the multicultural [0:41:49] Rebecca Hargraves ism problems, the immigration problems, but people have pushed so far past what I thought that [0:41:53] Dave Reilly threshold would be that it's astounding to me. Were you going to ask him something? I'm sorry. I mean, no, I just don't get it. I don't get how the Irish are not figuring this out. And, you know, when you look historically too, it's like you got like the Molly McGuire's, you can look at even the Irish in America, specifically I'm thinking of like the coal miners in Pennsylvania or the golden silver miners in Wallace Idaho. You know, we kicked off a war that lasted 10 years because they tried to cut wages by 50 cents. And the Irish labor union in Wallace blew up a fucking mind. Yeah. You know, and it seems like every time the Irish get their backs up against a wall, they get incredibly violent, incredibly quickly. And I must say, like as an American, like, I know you might have to disavow all this. And I don't want to get you in trouble. But there is something that warms my heart when I see the Garda trucks burning. I like that. But what more is it going to take for the, I mean, it's such a small country. It's such a small population. You've already crossed this barrier. I mean, in my opinion, the barrier is somewhere around 13 to 14% of the population. Once it becomes 13 to 14% minority. And, you know, especially a unified minority, whether that be, you know, Muslim or but something else where they've got a language or culture and a religion, usually that's the death now. That's it. You know, it's you'll blink and then it's half and then [0:43:27] Cameron M you blink again. And they're right. And adding to that, not only what will it take, but is it enough [0:43:32] Rebecca Hargraves for the Irish middle class to just want to oppose immigration or do they need to go further to really institute meaningful change? Let me add on to that too. One big question. What's the what's the economy like? Right. Clearly you guys are not struggling economically because I feel like if [0:43:51] Dave Reilly people were like in America right now, we're dealing with the snap food stamp thing getting cut. And so people are, you know, the food lines are even up here in a majority white area. The food lines are getting longer. Everybody that I know that has a traditional job, you know, with the with the [0:44:08] Rebecca Hargraves W-2, they're struggling as well. Answer all that. Don't miss it. What is the economy like? Yeah, go. Okay, let me just, let me just need a minute to recover. The economy, I mean, it's a weird one [0:44:27] Cameron M to discuss the economy because like on paper, Ireland is one of the highest GDP per capita in the [0:44:33] Dave Reilly Episode 89 world. So you can get you can get this led into thinking everyone here is like as rich as UAE. But this is where like the kind of like this new global economics can get so misleading is like we have [0:44:45] Rebecca Hargraves this massive GDP and a huge portion of it is just multinational stuff operate here and have, you know, [0:44:53] Dave Reilly maybe majority non Irish employees and export to the tune of billions and that's added to our GDP, right? It's any economic activity. So the government, successive governments for decades leaned [0:45:04] Rebecca Hargraves in on the strategy of we'll have like low corporate tax, we'll appeal to like the apples and the [0:45:09] Dave Reilly Intel's and the Facebook's to set up shop here and loads of these companies have their head offices [0:45:14] Cameron M in Dublin. And it did boost the economy in many ways, right? It does, it does employ a lot of people, [0:45:20] Dave Reilly it does give us tax receipts and it juices the GDP. But then there's all sorts of ways that like aren't accounted for within those statistics that people's lives have been made worse, right? So we have one of the highest tax burdens anywhere in the OECD on just like average middle income earners, people buy huge amounts of tax to the huge costs of living here. It's one of the most expensive [0:45:44] Rebecca Hargraves countries in the world, especially for rent. There's a housing crisis. And a lot of these things, [0:45:50] Dave Reilly you know, the degree to which we've opened the country up to global financial speculation plays a role in that in terms of, you know, there's a housing crisis and obviously you have 100,000 immigrants coming every year and, you know, maybe 10 or 20% of that being built in houses. And you have, you know, [0:46:07] Rebecca Hargraves foreign hedge funds and speculators that just buy up entire estates of houses. So although like on [0:46:13] Cameron M paper, the country's quite wealthy. It's really concentrated in a kind of older upper middle class that has largely kind of shifted the economic burden on to younger people, kind of people my age and younger that would be trying to get a start now. And they can't get on the housing ladder. [0:46:30] Dave Reilly Ireland has one of the highest rates at which people move out of their parents' house. I think the Episode 89 [0:46:35] Cameron M average is like 29.30. And the only thing that's comparable is actually like the Balkans where it's not just part of the culture that people do until they get married. But that's purely because [0:46:44] Dave Reilly of a financial strain and an inability to find housing. So there's a huge cost of living. There's a huge tax burden. There's a regular tree burden on smaller businesses. Like I said, people struggled to get on the housing ladder at any age because of the financial crash that happened in 2008, 2009, we had a huge property bubble, which again, in terms of this neoliberal economic policy, [0:47:11] Cameron M we had governments that heavily deregulated the banks and the financial system. [0:47:16] Dave Reilly And this was a way to deliver quick GDP growth as well. The economy struggled in while you can just juice the property market. And for a while, it was like 25% or 30% of our economic public was this huge property bubble. And it's all about getting the kind of role, economic numbers up, which does help the most wealthy. But then when it came crashing down, it was a huge bank bailout. And the Irish people basically bailed out 84% of the European banking debt, which required an outside bailout, surrender sovereignty to the IMF, the ECB. And then another aspect of that is, well, okay, we had a property bubble, which was largely driven by speculative investment from financiers, driven by banks, reckless lending, small few property developers, which [0:48:08] Cameron M largely were protected by the state, actually. But one consequence is that now you have to have very large cash deposits, 15%, 20% in order to be able to access some mortgage. All of this came at once. [0:48:19] Rebecca Hargraves And I think it's a big reason for why the birth rate absolutely crashed, as you know, you need 20% [0:48:24] Dave Reilly of your mortgage. The economy was in terrible state, it was years of austerity, required a shift in a tax burden. It's very much a gerontocracy in terms of the old people. They don't have much to do, [0:48:38] Rebecca Hargraves they follow politics a lot, they protest a lot. They were totally protected from the austerity. And it was totally shifted in terms of higher taxes, lower spend on middle income, young people, [0:48:51] Dave Reilly people that are working to raise a family. And so all of these things have really, like, [0:48:55] Rebecca Hargraves compounded, just grew the average middle class work in professional. And again, this is just a kind of [0:49:02] Dave Reilly Episode 89 frustration of Western political systems. We have an awful lot of boomers. We have an awful lot of old people. And they just don't encounter these problems. We can talk about how bad things are, and how are people not waking up? But it's like, there are boomers that live in nice leafy suburbs in Dublin, and they encounter no diversity. And the immigration to them means lower wages, means more workers in the cafes and the restaurants are frequent, and more carers. And bringing in these floods of people, I mean, it is ultimately, it's juicing the property market, it's inflating the value of their assets, maybe they own a couple of homes. So there is a class of people in the West, and this applies to most countries in the West. Like, there's a class of boomers, homeowners, you know, worked when the country was nice and was genius, and they're largely avoiding the consequences of diversity and of the transformation of the economy in this way. And just passing all of the burden, all of the tax burden, all of the burden for any economic problems that's created, the burden of diversity and multiculturalism, they're just passing that on to the younger generations [0:50:12] Rebecca Hargraves through profit of these parties. You know, if you look at the election, who sent old people voting [0:50:18] Cameron M for the same couple of parties and young people are kind of checked out. Yeah, I mean, and it is [0:50:24] Dave Reilly different because you guys use the euro, right? Yeah. Right. And so there is a key difference for sure between like the Irish economy in America, where, you know, we are actively debasing our own currency, and I don't think the Irish have a money printer the way that we do, right? And but it does, it just, it's weird to me. It bothers me that like, you know, in America, for sure, there is something happening. There is like an awakening going on. People are starting to figure things out and speak up in a way that they haven't before. And we're a huge country of 300, you know, 325 million people. And it's like Ireland is the size of like Maine. Yeah. So I would imagine that social cohesion would be higher, that the conversation would be happening a lot quicker. But it, it seems like you guys are hitting like a brick wall. And it, you know, maybe it has to do with the social media algorithms. What, I mean, when you go on acts, I'm sure in Ireland, you're probably mostly inundated with the American shit, right? American in your shoes. Yeah, I'm sure you're so sick of it. And then you come on, we ask you a bunch of questions about America. Sorry. Sorry. [0:51:36] Rebecca Hargraves I suppose to Ireland. Um, I mean, things have changed quite a bit in recent years. I mean, like [0:51:43] Dave Reilly before 2020, like no one ever discussed immigration here at all. And it is, it is quite a big topic of discussion here now, at least. I mean, obviously like regime media, you have to use your people to make individual arguments. But it is a conversation that's kind of been forced upon them. And when you see opinion polls, uh, increasingly, it's the top issue for people or, you know, [0:52:04] Cameron M top two or three. So there has been quite a change. But it has been very much like organic ground up. [0:52:10] Dave Reilly Um, I do see more prominent voices. I mean, you guys, I'm sure you've seen like Mike on my Episode 89 [0:52:13] Cameron M character. He gets like brilliant views on it on his, on his videos, talking about the densets, [0:52:19] Dave Reilly diversity, and so on. So like this stuff is out there. And you can kind of sense it, but I know, like I've said before, like it's, it's in the WhatsApp chats. It's in the Facebook groups. Like people amongst themselves are talking about this. Um, but again, it's just the, it's, you know, again, it's the first thing with the, the middle class types where they will agree with a lot of this. [0:52:40] Cameron M And, you know, when they're again in polite company, it's kind of back to the back to the [0:52:46] Dave Reilly socially approved viewpoints. And, um, you know, when it comes time for the ballot box, it's typically [0:52:52] Cameron M a, some kind of more pressing economic concern that they think is more important than [0:52:57] Dave Reilly back to one of the two or three establishment parties. So the conversation is there and it is, it is changing. It's actually something that's debated now. But it's going to take a, like a larger dose of radicalism for people to see that it's, it's existential. Like it's, it's not just one topic. It's not just one pace of government incompetence or mismanagement among others. Like it's, it's really the root problem. Beyond immigration, which is obviously the largest problem in Ireland right now. And we've talked about the economic situation. What do you think is the other biggest threat to Irish sovereignty today? Um, well, I talked a bit about the economic system. I mean, the, I think it's absurd personally that you have any country where you allow foreigners to own land. [0:53:49] Cameron M I've always thought that's absurd. I mean, the, I think in, in London, no, like the, the majority [0:53:56] Dave Reilly group in ownership of property in London is Indians, like above even the English, the Katari royal family owns more London property than the British royals. Like all of this is, it's just absurd to me. And like Ireland is really, it's lost its economic sovereignty. I mean, they've mentioned like, it's a good thing that we can't debase her currency. Personally, I would have liked some debase. And I mean, the base of what happened in Ireland is, is like the opposite. It's like, you know, we were forced to take on banking debt [0:54:24] Rebecca Hargraves belonging to private speculators like firms like Goldman Sachs and private pension funds and so on, [0:54:31] Dave Reilly you know, our government guaranteed their, their, their credit to Irish banks and, [0:54:37] Cameron M Episode 89 and basically forced a taxpayer to pay all that. And so we were under like Christian austerity for [0:54:41] Dave Reilly years. And, and if we had monetary independence, in a case like that, you could have done what Iceland did when they had a financial crisis, which is you, you cheap in your currency and export your way out of the crisis and, and kind of liquidate some of the banking debt. We didn't have any monetary options like that because ECB policy is, is basically step with the Germans and the French to less agree. And so we had to run economic policies that are basically centered on, on keeping inflation down for the Germans. That's, that's their top economic concern. And Europe has had a lost decade, really, in terms of after the, a wait on nine financial crash. You had 10 years of austerity, of, of little to no growth of countries like Spain, Italy, [0:55:31] Cameron M with more than 50% youth unemployment. And I think these, like all of the national economies have [0:55:38] Dave Reilly really had their, their hands tied behind their back in terms of the kind of neoliberal [0:55:42] Cameron M economic policy of, of not really having the independence to, to print money or to have a national [0:55:49] Dave Reilly export plan or industrialization plan. Europe has totally fallen behind in innovation. I mean, the US has just totally opaced it since 2008. And a lot of it is, is that Europe is, is doubling [0:56:00] Rebecca Hargraves down on these, on these neoliberal economic policies. And it's just created stagnation. Europe is [0:56:06] Dave Reilly dying in many ways. But part of it is, is economic and, you know, the youth unemployment [0:56:12] Rebecca Hargraves and that feeds down into, into lower birth rates. So I think it's, it's a huge problem, the lack of, [0:56:17] Dave Reilly of, of monetary sovereignty on top of, of what mass immigration is, is due into our country as well. [0:56:25] Cameron M Yeah. And that goes for, I mean, that goes for many countries in Europe. [0:56:29] Dave Reilly Yeah. That's incredible. We do have a few questions for you. If you guys want to get any questions in [0:56:33] Rebecca Hargraves Episode 89 for Keith, the backlash.net slash super chat, or my YouTube channel, or at real backlash [0:56:39] Dave Reilly YouTube channel, or Rumble Rance, or, or, or our Bitcoin money. We have made it so easy for you to send, please throw some money at us. Send us your money. Send us your money. And questions for Keith. I guarantee that somebody has asked if you've ever written a horse. I was just about to get to that. From book track groups, he sent $10 on Rumble. Keith, have you ever written a horse? I bet he has. There's multiple parts this question. So we won't do what we just did. I'll break this one up. We'll make it really nice and simple. Have you ever written a horse? [0:57:08] Rebecca Hargraves I haven't written a horse. What? How? Why does he always ask this? I don't know. But it is a good question. [0:57:13] Dave Reilly It's unique. I think that it's, he thinks that it's a reflection on a man's character. [0:57:18] Rebecca Hargraves Odd. Okay. Well, that's cool. Guess I failed the test. How do people support you? What are your thoughts on [0:57:24] Dave Reilly the Peaky Blinders? Port Keith. You can support me. Go to KeithWoods.pub and you'll get all my, [0:57:33] Cameron M I published all my writings there. Any, any shows that go on as I'm saying. [0:57:37] Dave Reilly I've realized I forgot to post a show on there. So I guess I'll do that afterwards. Oh my god, look at this guy's face. Right. Oh, I'm so sorry. Let's go on with content. [0:57:46] Cameron M I don't, I don't scare anyone away with that. [0:57:49] Dave Reilly Rich. Take that off the front page. Yeah, we've got to we've got to update this. Yeah. Keith was a pub. I'm also involved in something exciting right now. we're launching a news aggregator which will cover all of Europe, it'll cover the US, [0:58:03] Cameron M it'll cover the world, but there's really nowhere to get, I think, like one centralized place for a nationalist, you know, populist themed news. I think probably most people like me just use [0:58:15] Dave Reilly Episode 89 X or telegram for news, but increasingly a lot of that is AI, there's a lot of slop on there, sometimes you can capture a lot of fake news. So we're building an aggregator, I think it's going to be something that's really needed and appreciated. It's just Europa, Europa.com. And if you visit it, [0:58:34] Cameron M you'll see there's a US section, a Europe section, a world section, it's still a little bit under construction, so it'll be more to come in that regard. But I think this is a project I'm very excited [0:58:43] Rebecca Hargraves about actually, because like I said, you've got Grudge Report, it's kind of center left now. [0:58:48] Dave Reilly There's a couple of like kind of MAGA themed aggregators, but nothing really in our circles. And with all of the chaos in turmoil, I think there's going to be in the next few years on an exciting political events. I think it's very important that we have one kind of central node that you know, you can get updates on whatever is unfold and then it'll be reliable news updates. That's awesome. Yeah, we've been noticing it, you know, Elon has been experimenting with the algorithm, and I think they changed it over to Groc a week or two ago, and it's just, you know, it's not been good. There's definitely like a disconnect with the algorithm where... Well, I'm noticing, I don't know if you guys noticed, I'm noticing people that I did follow that were okay accounts, and now they just post stuff that's obviously written by a chat GPT. [0:59:38] Cameron M A couple of channels, I would see news updates from them, and they'd be pretty good news updates. There's something happened to do a big tweet about it and have a few paragraphs. And now I read it, [0:59:47] Dave Reilly and it's just like, you know, there's the, you just, it's all these EM dashes, and it's like all of this weird eliteration. It's just like, this is clearly pasted as some chat GPT. That feels like half of my feed recently. Like, if you follow news at all, it's just a slap everywhere now. Right. What's the full picture issue with EM dashes? I love EM dashes. I use them all the time, and I don't copy pasta from chat GPT. But unless it's for the title of Versus. Well, actually, yeah, never mind. The titles and descriptions for, I think every single one of our shows has been creative. Hey, AI, because I've outsourced my creativity. But yeah, there is definitely like something going on with these algorithms. I mean, on the one hand, like, and we'll talk about this on Wednesday, this American Jewish committee thing that has happened. So it's like, we had the World Series, and normally, this is like the first year where [1:00:38] Rebecca Hargraves we haven't been taken over by sports law. At least my feed hasn't. I didn't even realize [1:00:44] Dave Reilly that the World Series was going on until it was over. But, you know, we had a massive push with this American Jewish committee conference, you know, Mark Levin going absolutely bash it and saying, and it seemed like the entire feed was just hitting that. That's what your feed is like. Mine is filled with AI content, but it's of children dying from cancer. Oh, dear God. Yeah, and it's like very convincing AI content. This is something that I talked with. Was it Voorhees? Eric Voorhees? Was that his name? Man, it's been a long time. He's talking about going back to the EMJ days. He was a Google whistleblower, and I remember him talking about how, oh, one day in the future, they're going to put us all in our own personalized bubble where you're just going to be presented with news specifically for Episode 89 you. That's exactly what is happening right now. Any AI is becoming very advanced in convincing. It's I've actually fallen for a few. Yeah, so you don't like I feel like it's like it's like a two-pronged assault. It's like these two things happen at same time where it's like on the one hand like 90% of the content is AI now and it got a bit more [1:01:51] Cameron M convincing. But then on the other hand, it's like 90% of people on the internet now are like [1:01:55] Rebecca Hargraves Indians and subcontinentals and like people that like really fall for AI. So it's like these [1:02:01] Dave Reilly two things have kind of just met at the same time to the point like you look like a band on YouTube. Like now I see like a fight like into YouTube. It doesn't bring up my descriptions or user history and so on. So you kind of see what it's like to be on like normal YouTube. And it's just yeah, it's like it's AI slop, but it's like not AI slop. That would be interesting or convincing. Right. Yeah, it's like 100 IQ Westerners. It's like it's like it's like essentially content meant for like Indians. It's like oh, of course, the convergence of those things. [1:02:32] Cameron M Of course, but you were secretly a millionaire. It's like the convergence of those things, [1:02:36] Dave Reilly which is Indians using AI. I cannot wait for there's supposed to be a new feature rolling out to Twitter that will show you what nation a Twitter account is based on. Oh, man, they'll just they'll just use VPN. I can't know they can't use VPN. Oh, really? No, because it's about it's a the account. Oh, it's it's 90% Indian, I'm sure. Oh yeah. And all of these the classical, you know, laser eyes, classical statue of David accounts, you know, it's going to be like, it's going to be [1:03:10] Rebecca Hargraves night of the long knives for the like Greek statue accounts. Yeah. I can't wait. I'm rubbing. No, [1:03:19] Dave Reilly okay. Anyway, booked records, send another $10. Keith, how are the churches? Do you have matchmakers in Ireland? Keep your hat sharp. Um, matchmakers. I don't know why. So there's there's like a matchmaker festival in a famous one in Ireland in a village called Lister in Verna. And I'm sorry to report. It was like one of the first villages that somehow got flooded with a Margaret Center a few years ago. So nowhere spared unfortunately. I think that's like rural County Claire. So, um, what was the last part of the question? Uh, keep your hat sharp. Yeah, it's a peaky blinders reference. You know, they put the razor blades in their, in their, uh, their Irish. Oh, that was a previous question asking me my thoughts on peaky blinders. I only watched a few episodes. I never really got into it. The bet, okay. So I guess I watched that in like was it 2018 or yeah, must have been 2018. I remember I was living alone in Kansas. And I just, uh, I'm not a, I don't like porn. I don't like looking at that shit. And so when the peaky blind, because there is a lot of that in peaky blinders. And so I guess when I was living alone, whenever that would happen, I'd like get up and I'd like make food and I'd kind of like leave the room. And so then, you know, when I got married, I was like, Hey, honey, we've got to watch this great show. It's the peaky blinders. You'll love it. And then it was like holy crap. There's like a lot of porn in this. Uh, and I never realized it. So you've got to be careful, uh, with the peaky blinders about that. But I believe it was Episode 89 season four when, um, they formed this alliance between the gang and Oswald Mosley. And it's kind of cool. You know, it's, it's kind of neat to see. I don't think I ever got that deep into that show. Mosley, you know, at a, at a house party, giving a speech about how England lives and marches on in like somebody's backyard under a tent. But they also make Mosley look like a total degenerate. Yeah. I'm sure that there was no propaganda. Yeah, it was propaganda. The, uh, oh, speaking of propaganda stick, uh, television shows, have you had a chance to watch Mussolini son of the century? No, no, I've heard makes things about that. I'm, yeah, I think [1:05:37] Cameron M I'm, I'm going to try and check that out. Someone's going to have to send me a link to it or something. I was that, when I was over in Italy, I was actually asking them about that. Like what, because it's [1:05:44] Dave Reilly originally an Italian show, right? And, uh, they're actually pretty positive on us. So I thought, okay, well, if he's like Italian nationalists, I think it's okay. I guess we'll give it a chance. Yeah. No, I mean, I think, you know, it was fairly historically accurate. You know, they, they do focus heavily on, uh, Mussolini's relationship with that Jewish woman who was kind of like cited as the, the, the Jewish mother of fashion, of Italian fascism. But that's true. That happened, you know, he did have a lot of mistresses. He wasn't the most upstanding saintly person. Uh, but, I'll show you. But the show is good. Uh, and it's funny too. You know, there's all these, it's very clearly got a bunch of liberal propaganda in it. There's this moment towards the end of the, of the series where Mussolini like breaks the fourth one. The whole thing, he breaks the fourth wall. It's kind of like his diary, you know, where he turns to the camera and bitches about the situation. But there is one part where he turns to the camera and he goes, make Italy great again. Oh, no. Very obvious. Very obviously like terrible liberal propaganda. But it's great. I liked it. I liked the show. I thought it was half decent. Um, while we're on it. I actually really liked [1:06:57] Cameron M Italy. If you want, if you want somewhere that's really, uh, really good to visit Florence. I really recommend it. It's like very, uh, you, you won't really notice apart from like the transition [1:07:08] Dave Reilly as well. There's no, there's not already noticeable diversity, but it's just, it's incredible. [1:07:12] Cameron M Like every street is like the, you know, the amount of history in that city is insane. So, [1:07:17] Dave Reilly especially, um, you know, maybe people that are watching this are that are into, uh, European classical history and so on, uh, Florence is an amazing place to visit. Also, [1:07:27] Cameron M something exciting about Italy. None of the trends I got around on time. I was going to ask, [1:07:31] Rebecca Hargraves did the trains do they still run on time or what? My guess is now. I guess not. I'm around on time. [1:07:36] Dave Reilly Episode 89 Oh, I was very disappointed with that. Uh, while we're on, uh, Italy for a moment because I am Irish and Italian, I am curious. What is going on with Casapound? Uh, are they still cooking? Um, what's the, what's the deal? Yeah, they're still around. Um, I, I haven't, uh, I haven't encountered the much with the group. I was over, uh, at their conference, uh, it's called Cassaghi, uh, which is kind [1:08:03] Cameron M of, I think it's a similar group. I guess to be friendly with those guys, but, um, you know, [1:08:08] Dave Reilly unfortunately, I guess I'm not the, I'm not the most educated personal in Casapound. Now, it's, it's okay. We, I've got a, we're planning a little family pilgrimage to Europe for next year, uh, into Geneva and France. And I really want to take two detours to Ireland and to Italy. Um, and so I'm going to have to like do some networking because I want to get an update. I have, some of my old friends were involved with Casapound and, you know, Dave's going to infiltrate all your groups. I'm not going to infiltrate them. I've got his tentacles and everything. I do. I am, I am in all of like, I am in all of the Irish nationalists like, not all of them, but I'm in some of the Irish nationalist group chats, you know, and I'm keeping tabs. I want to make sure that I'm in one. That is true. I am all the same. Yeah. Okay. That's good. Mechanized doom sent $20. In my opinion, the tech companies turning Ireland into a tax haven accelerated its decline. Big agree. Do you think Ireland has been colonized again by Apple and Google? Um, I actually think that's been overstayed [1:09:12] Cameron M a little bit. I actually wrote an article. It's not released yet because, uh, I submitted it to somewhere else to publish around and just my sub-site, but it's why Ireland is so left wing, uh, in terms of like the dynamics mostly of the people that dominate the media here and how concentrated the [1:09:29] Rebecca Hargraves domination is of this small stake class, of kind of upper middle class, like kind of set of double [1:09:35] Dave Reilly owners, like for kind of cosmopolitan class of people that always serve themselves as European [1:09:39] Cameron M routers than Irish. Um, but that's one of the things I actually covered in the article is, uh, this case, [1:09:48] Dave Reilly Emileek Jones made this case before John Waters has kind of made this case that the tech companies kind of top down, socially engineered Ireland. I just don't see it that way. I just don't see, I mean, of course, they are like quite liberal in their views, but in terms of like direct intervention, I mean, obviously there's the usual tech censorship, right? I was immediately banned off, of like talking about enough few other platforms, uh, banned from YouTube. But in terms of them directly interfering with policy and saying like, hey, you got to bring an abortion, you got to bring in gay marriage, you go to open the borders, it really hasn't happened that much. I mean, they give, you know, they give whatever they're like ESG fund and is and some of it makes its way to left wing organizations. But I really think it's, it's an internal problem in terms of the, the psyche of, of the Irish middle upper middle class and the people that traditionally dominated the media, financial sector, politics here. And I think it's, it's much more native problem in that regard than the kind of simple story of like, Googleification, Google and Episode 89 Facebook came here and made everyone gay. [1:10:49] Cameron M I think, I think by the time, you know, by the time they were doing anything socially, I think the, [1:10:55] Rebecca Hargraves we were all ready well into the end of that process. Yeah. How is John Waters doing these days? [1:11:03] Dave Reilly Uh, he seems to be alright. He's, he's, uh, he's earning mechanisms, rounds on, on the podcast from, from what I've seen. Oh, really? I'm going to have to have a chat with him at some point. Yeah, we'll have to, uh, we'll have to bring him on. He wrote that book, was it, give us back the old roads. Um, that was Jesus. Give us back the bad roads. Yeah. Great. Yeah. Uh, geez, it is amazing how time has fly since COVID. I feel like we, we all kind of stepped into a, a warp time warp or something like that. Uh, Ryan Hart sent $25. Thank you for the big super chat, buddy. It breaks my heart to see the Emerald Isle in the state that it's in. I hope the Irish find the courage to bring enough force to bear to salvage their nation before it's too late. It happens fast. Don't wait to become America. True. Was, do you have a comment on that? [1:11:53] Rebecca Hargraves Hey, you're great. We love Ryan Hart. Thank you. We love Ryan Hart. [1:11:57] Dave Reilly Truth, truth, nook. Booktrack grew since $10. Keith Irish Bitcoin or Goldbills could help it. How are [1:12:04] Rebecca Hargraves the pubs? Are they better or worse? What games do you like to play outside? Um, I think that's kind of [1:12:12] Cameron M said, Irish Goldbills. I don't think we're going to like bring down the financial system like [1:12:17] Dave Reilly trend, gold coins or something that, it's been like nonsense to me. Um, what was your apartment? What games so play outside? What games do you like to play outside? Stickball? [1:12:29] Rebecca Hargraves What? I don't know what stickball is. Are you sick? Like, you're like, people I used to play [1:12:33] Dave Reilly Harlan. I used to play soccer. Uh, those were the big three. I don't plan on unfortunately. [1:12:39] Rebecca Hargraves Rugby? There's no cricket culture in Ireland. I was, I was fired to fragile for rugby. I mean, [1:12:47] Dave Reilly Episode 89 look at me. I was even worse. Those guys are serious, but aren't you tall? Are you like six foot two? How tall are you? No, I'm like six, I'm six four. Six four. Whoa. Yeah. Well done. Very tall guy. Davis is five foot four. So I am not my mother. I doesn't really, I didn't help so much for rugby. [1:13:07] Cameron M You ever see the rugby players? They're like, they're doing rugby players like five nine and like [1:13:12] Dave Reilly this thick, you know, I'm like kind of the opposite bill of a rugby player. I am not five foot four. I am five foot nine. Maybe four foot eleven. My mother is four foot eleven. She's a little gal. She's like a ninja. I have one on YouTube too. Hold on, I got one. The wing at Hussar sent $20. Keith, have you ever trained Irish? Have you ever trained an Irish stick fighting? I have a black thorn shellayly that I train with here in case I ever get myself in trouble. Didn't they ban shellaylies? [1:13:42] Rebecca Hargraves Keith is like, what? What do you guys think about the Irish? We start talking about sticks. I know. Anybody have any pot of gold references? You want to throw a Keith while we're at me? [1:13:52] Dave Reilly Potatoes. My potato is in the gold. Yeah. Yeah. It's nice. It's quite quiet. It's like we're on this little island, riding horses, train gold coins, and stick fighting. It's like we think it's like [1:14:07] Rebecca Hargraves another like universe. Like watching porn. It's really not. No, I haven't trained and stick fighting. [1:14:18] Dave Reilly See, I wouldn't mind. I've thought about getting one of those canes that has like a built in 22 because we're American and we're all about guns over here. So okay. But yeah, shellaylies, go ahead. There was a lot of discourse about self-defense in the UK after that train attack [1:14:35] Cameron M because it is kind of insane. I can understand why Americans make fun of gerbians for not only guns, because there was something absurd about that guy who was on the train with a machete. It was just [1:14:46] Dave Reilly like a train full of people at both ends with no way to defend themselves. I think they were saying that the guy that actually held them off or disarmed them somewhat did it with a bottle of Jack Daniels apparently. I saw these debates were going on. People were telling girls, they were telling [1:15:04] Cameron M women, you can't carry masks or pepper sprays or in Ireland or UK. They were saying to do, I don't [1:15:11] Rebecca Hargraves know if you guys know what D.P. is. It's like the spray for muscle soreness. There's a lot of discourse on British Twitter, but are we going to fashion some kind of self-defense item? Episode 89 [1:15:25] Dave Reilly Look at muscle sprays and this kind of thing. I wish we could give them arms. [1:15:30] Rebecca Hargraves Do you remember that terrorist attack in England five years ago or something where the guy defended himself [1:15:36] Dave Reilly with a narwhal tusk? What? That's crazy. It was just peak of absurdity. A narwhal tusk. He had taken off of the wall of a pub and then he had to deal with that. You guys are going to have to get creative. This is one of the things that was in that Mussolini's son of the century. Many series, they banned guns and they banned carrying clubs so they started using dried fish, big ass dried fish, and then they would beat people with fish to death in Italy. They're spiky. At the time. That actually might work. Maybe you guys should get some like tuna. [1:16:14] Rebecca Hargraves Some big dried tuna. You can walk around. I'm not advocate and anything. I don't want any [1:16:21] Cameron M I don't want any like dried fish. I don't want any like crazy dried fish related terror incidents in [1:16:27] Dave Reilly Ireland. They're going to get you. They're going to be going around with shit. What's that? What's the dumb? What's the fish called that they put on pizza that sucks? Sardines. Sardines. And Chovies. And Chovies. There we go. Officer Russell sent $10. I don't need someone used it as a weapon. It would be a little out of place. Officer Russell sent $10 on entropy. Don't forget you can super chat on entropy. I don't meet monthly quotas by shooting grapes out of these huge nostrils. So I make something out of nothing by going after the people I swore to protect. I'm afraid of actual criminals but like to go off on power trips. So I got my budget agent wife who lets me freak a leak as Uncle Fester on her. [1:17:16] Rebecca Hargraves What? What the fuck? I don't understand any of this. I don't know. [1:17:19] Dave Reilly You people are weird. But thank you for the donation. Thank you. Are you Irish? I don't know. Is this common in Ireland? [1:17:27] Cameron M I didn't recall any of that nonsense. Me neither. [1:17:30] Dave Reilly Bizarre Robert the Pivotal sent $10. Keith it appears you guys over in Ireland have your own police negligence. Even agent provocateurs if white nationalists hypothetically have ready made plans for the next crisis. Which type of crisis can accelerationists leverage to rush hotels? By the way, Robert it's spelled A-C-C-E-L not E-X-E-L. I'm a grammar Nazi, okay. Yeah. I don't even understand a question on Episode 89 it. Sounds kind of fed posted. I'm not up to get [1:18:00] Rebecca Hargraves going to a racial dose. No, I don't think so. Fair enough. That's something that happens naturally. You don't need to plan. On my YouTube we have Pete Lecker I think. Here to support you guys and Keith I just like to recommend Keith's book. Which was a great analysis of current political sociological and demographic changes. Thank you so much. You want to shout out your book? [1:18:24] Dave Reilly Thank you. Sure, it's nationalism, the politics of identity. If you search, yeah, you can search out. You can just search my name on Amazon. For those that are interested in the Irish discussion as well, I released a collection of historical Irish nationalist writings. Partly to correct this thing I've been talking about where there is this kind of new revisionist view that they were all like, you know, globalists like Pairdwell or something. So I just actually made a compilation of historical rights. I was surprised that it had never really been done before. So there's an anthology of those as well. Irish nationalism, essential writings. And yet nationalism to politics identity is my collection of writings advocating for nationalism. Yeah, there it is. What is it? Irish nationalism, essential writings, volume one. Indeed. Highly recommended. Well, I think that we all caught up on all of our super chats. One last question, I guess for me, that's probably going [1:19:23] Rebecca Hargraves to get in trouble. I apologize. Stop trying to get Keith in trouble. Oh, no, no, hold on. We've got one [1:19:27] Dave Reilly from bone smasher who sent $20. The irony of last week's show is that Dave was dressed up as exactly what Cameron actually is. You said you don't know anything about his personal life. But he's been on for a year. He's running a one man show hard to fight the flag when you've got no one at home [1:19:43] Rebecca Hargraves saluting it glowy. If Cameron were a fed, I would never stop laughing. Also, we're not getting any fed [1:19:50] Dave Reilly money. We're not getting the fed money. But I think that there is a faction in the CIA that likes [1:19:54] Rebecca Hargraves what we do. And God bless him. Okay. We don't have good feds working for us. The white hats are in [1:20:00] Dave Reilly control. Trust the plan. William Lee. Okay. Okay. We have William Lee sent $10. I'm angry just because [1:20:08] Rebecca Hargraves my own Asian women want a white man instead of me. Rot row. Womp, womp, womp. Anyway, Keith, where can [1:20:15] Dave Reilly Episode 89 people find you? You have an excellent Twitter. You have a sub stack. Why don't you shout out all the links where folks can find you and learn more about Irish nationalism. Yeah. Like I said, Keith [1:20:26] Cameron M Woods dot pub. You'll get all my right. It's there. What you're looking at there is bio dot length slash Keith Woods. That is all my links. Exactly. And like I said, I think people will find it very useful if you go to Europa.com and book market. It's going to be our own nationalist news aggregator. And yeah, [1:20:44] Dave Reilly see if you find it useful. I think I think people will really really like the service there. Yeah, bio dot length slash Keith Woods. You'll find everything there. And yeah, thanks for having me on. Thank you, Keith. It was such a pleasure. We'll talk to you soon. All right. Take care. And we aren't done yet. We got another super chat. That was a cozy stream. It was cozy. I like Keith. He's very comfortable. Is that weird to say? A little gay. Little gay. I apologize. Are you sure you're not Mr. bone smasher? Bone smasher. Uh, no, I'm not bone smasher. Uh, Ryan Hart sent $10. Wait, don't go [1:21:19] Rebecca Hargraves yet. Oh, sorry. Okay. They don't have Patriot front and Ireland. So it's okay. Keith didn't need to [1:21:25] Dave Reilly hear that. We love you, Ryan. We love you. Been praying for you, bud. Um, what else do we got? Nothing over here. We should talk a little bit about our sponsors. Uh, one of them are sponsors or sponsors, one of them being Atlas bullion. Um, man, I was, I was trying to, you know, I go to the sauna every day, try to sweat out the toxins. It's very good for your insulin levels as well. If you stay in longer than 30 minutes, so I usually put on a non-political podcast when I'm in the sauna. I thought you were going to say a pink thong. No, no. Uh, and I like to listen to magic orange coin podcast, magic internet money podcast. And, uh, I was listening to this, this one from, was it, what Bitcoin did? And the entire podcast is about how fascism will win and how like America is going to become a fascist country. And I was like, excuse me, what fucking planet did I wake up on today? Uh, I was beside myself. Uh, but it is very clear that the economic situation in this country, we are running on E, the reverse repo markets are getting extremely fucked up. Uh, we are moving from quantitative tightening to quantitative easing, which is going to make inflation go bananas. We are going to hit the banana zone. And in a situation like that, you want to be holding hard assets. 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I think we're also going to have maybe our next meet-up will be a big Christmas party here in North Idaho. How does that sound? Do you guys want to come to a Christmas party? If you're in the area, please send us an email at info at thebacklash.net. We will be doing some rigorous vetting going forward. We'll take you out for a cup of coffee, get to know you, do a background check, get your social security number data birth, and run that through our computer system and, you know, pass it up to Cameron so he can have his friends and see IA. [1:26:00] Rebecca Hargraves Oh, man, I miss a super chat. I'm really sorry. Oh, what was the super chat? [1:26:03] Dave Reilly Alberto, this was for Keith. This super chat disappeared on my YouTube channel. I apologize. [1:26:08] Rebecca Hargraves Can you post episode on Spotify quicker to listen back? Please, question for Keith. Sorry. [1:26:13] Dave Reilly Yeah, we'll work on it. I'll get that up. I mean, I will get this episode up today. [1:26:17] Rebecca Hargraves I'm so sorry, Alberto. If you like, I can send that to him on Twitter, DMs, and then I can email his response to you. I'm really sorry. [1:26:25] Dave Reilly You can talk about it on Wednesday's show. Speaking of shows, I did release a special dark Dave edition of the Backlash last night, Dave after dark. But I think it was good. Keith's getting gay. I couldn't sleep on Saturday night. I was laying in bed. It was one o'clock in the morning. I was pissed because of this whole clock situation. It wasn't about Thomas Massey. No, it wasn't about Thomas. It's daylight savings time. See, we're going to have to go through another cycle of this. Isn't it ridiculous? We've got to go through another cycle. We've got to spring forward. But I swear to God, next year, can we please, can it be the last spring forward? We'll spring forward. And then just stay there forever. I really don't like how dark it gets dark so early now. It's like four o'clock and it's like midnight ounce. Yeah, it's a problem. But I did do a dark Dave episode of the Backlash last night. Episode 89 [1:27:23] Rebecca Hargraves You can find that on our YouTube, on our rumble, and on our ex. Let me know if I should be posting [1:27:31] Dave Reilly those to our Spotify and Apple podcasts as well because I'm not posting it there. Maybe I should be. I don't know. But it is doing very well. So thank you all for watching my solo rants. I do appreciate that. We'll be doing some more of those. And we will also be doing a little bit more shilling for Idaho Tele Company, the world's best soap providers, critically acclaimed everywhere from Nigeria to Beirut, Idaho Tele-Sope, made with CalFat and Lai. Wow, you are killing it with this promo. If you are sick of chemicals in your soap that you can't pronounce. We're lucky she is so permissive. If you don't like Johnson and Johnson and Proctor and Gamble, you hate giving your money to Jewish soap making companies. You can go to North Idaho Tele Company at IdahoTalo.com. They are preparing for a big Black Friday Christmas gifts for your family. They will come pre-wrapped, pre-packaged. All you got to do is buy it and then you can give it out to all your family and friends. And they will be clean and smelling very nice. Very nice. They've got soaps, balms and lip balm that have nutrients. Your body craves, that your body needs. So you can go to IdahoTalo.com. They've also got their fireside forest talo soap. On presale, they've got the U-Pick soap bundle, the soap of the month club. So you can always smell nice and smell nice. Just read it next time, dude. I'm just going to read the ad next time. No more improv. [1:29:21] Rebecca Hargraves Thank you so much for joining us. We are going to have an excellent show on Wednesday. The following my big show on Wednesday. Following on Monday, we have finally confirmed Miss Emily Eugus. [1:29:33] Dave Reilly So that's going to be a great episode. I can't stop. I can't stop. [1:29:38] Rebecca Hargraves It's the Will's Christmas episode show. I'm just in the grocery store. It do be like that, Miss Distance. So good. Her last episode dropped a day or two ago. It was fantastic. So check her [1:29:50] Dave Reilly out. We are going to force her to sing pistachios and peanuts. I'm not going to pistachios. Emily is a [1:29:59] Rebecca Hargraves dear friend of mine. I'm not going to humiliate her unless it benefits the show. In which case, she [1:30:04] Dave Reilly doesn't get enough super chance to sing. Thank you for joining us. Thank you, Mr. Keith Woods. [1:30:09] Rebecca Hargraves We will see you on Wednesday at real backlash on next. Follow us there. The real backlash. Wait, real backlash.net slash. The backlash.net slash. Where can you find all of our links? Scribe? Yes. The backlash.net slash subscribe. Thank you guys. Check us out there. We will see you on Episode 89 [1:30:26] Dave Reilly Wednesday. Bye-bye.