Episode 159 — The Great Awakening And The Battle For The Soul Of America w/ J.D. Hall

[0:00:00] Hello and welcome to The Backlash. I'm your host, David J. Reilly. Thank you so much for joining us today. Got a big show. Got a lot of great topics we're going to be covering with an amazing guest, J.D. Hall, who we'll be introducing in just a minute. [0:00:19] He's been a fan favorite. [0:00:20] Everybody loves it when he comes on the show. [0:00:22] So it'll be great to get some updates on him and what's going on [0:00:25] and the great battle between Christianity and Judaism [0:00:28] and the Judaizers in Christianity and all of that. [0:00:32] But before we get ahead of ourselves, [0:00:34] please make sure that you are smashing the like button on this video. [0:00:37] Make sure you're following the channel and all of our platforms. [0:00:41] We're on X at Real Backlash, our website, thebacklash.net. [0:00:46] new and improved, uh, with everything that at your fingertips, super easy to get to all the [0:00:52] different guests that we've had the different episodes. 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[0:03:38] He is absolutely fantastic. He has been around the block since we've seen him last, I think just a month ago. [0:03:46] he was on the Tucker Carlson podcast, which is absolutely amazing. [0:03:54] So JD, how have you been? [0:03:57] I've been good. Been doing very well. Thank you for asking. [0:04:01] It's good to be back with you. [0:04:03] Awesome. [0:04:06] Hold on a second. Damn it. I'm going to have to edit this. Where is. [0:04:09] That's okay. [0:04:10] Overlay for guest Dave. [0:04:12] I was distracted too, actually. [0:04:13] It's okay. [0:04:14] maybe I'll just pick it up. [0:04:21] Maybe I'll just pick it up with me introducing you. [0:04:29] So without any further ado, [0:04:31] we have got a wonderful guest that is making his third appearance here on The Backlash, [0:04:35] the one and only J.D. Hall. [0:04:38] And man, a lot's been going on since the last time you were on the program. [0:04:41] You've been making the rounds. [0:04:43] I saw that you were on the Tucker Carlson program about a month ago, speaking with the big shot up there in Maine about the origins of Christian Zionism and how it corrupted American Christianity. [0:04:57] And I've also seen that you've been very busy over at NXR Studios. [0:05:03] studios. Of course, this is one of Joel Webin's new content things. And you are right here in [0:05:10] the lineup amidst a whole crew of some really great content creators and Christian people. So [0:05:17] JD, how have you been? I didn't know I was there. So they were showing me that. Yeah, [0:05:22] it's going well. I am staying busy. I write three of the top three sub stacks on sub stacks. So, [0:05:31] I mean, that's in my opinion anyway. I don't know what other people think, [0:05:36] but Insight to Insight has grown a lot since last time I talked to you. I think the last time I [0:05:41] spoke to you, we just kind of got started. So it has been a good ride and people are reading it [0:05:49] and it pays the bills. So here I am. That's amazing. It is like fighting tooth and nail [0:05:58] to be able to make a living doing this kind of stuff. So God bless. That's amazing. Keeping the [0:06:02] lights on. Not so much over here at the Backlash. Send some super chats. I'm kidding. But yeah, [0:06:09] man, it's been amazing to see, you know, just in the past year, I feel like you've been a one-man [0:06:14] wrecking crew that has just kind of been bulldozing through evangelical Christianity, [0:06:20] exposing the hypocrisy, the lies, you know, and it's just been amazing to see. I saw also [0:06:26] just last week. [0:06:29] I don't know if I'll be able to pull it up, [0:06:31] but you did a debate with Dinesh D'Souza. [0:06:37] How do you think that way? [0:06:41] They've called me a wrecking ball for many years. [0:06:45] I entitled my writing course, [0:06:50] The Wrecking Ball, [0:06:50] The Wrecking Ball Writing Method, [0:06:52] because it's always been this simple strategy [0:06:55] that has gotten me by, and that is you look out at culture, and whatever the true thing is that is [0:07:02] not being said, that's the market for truth. Basically, it's supply-side economics applied [0:07:10] to epistemology, the study of truth. So what's true that's not being said, there will be a demand [0:07:17] for that truth because there is need for that truth. And the reason why it's not being said, [0:07:24] The reason why there is a supply shortage for that demand is because no doubt it's an unpopular thing to say. [0:07:31] So if you can take the heat, if you can take the criticism, if you don't mind having a few enemies, then you're going to get by because truth always has a market. [0:07:44] So I was, yeah, standing in line at the bank one day. [0:07:48] We had sold the farm and we're moving that day. [0:07:51] uh we bought a place uh way out in the woods in in the middle of nowhere where i wanted to be [0:07:57] we were already kind of in the middle of nowhere excuse me in the middle of nowhere but this is [0:08:02] like in the middle of nowhere in the woods so i'm at the bank and i'm taking out a big pile of cash [0:08:08] to pay movers and housekeepers and stuff and i look at my phone and i just see the word tucker [0:08:14] you know it's i you know how when you look at a text a word can pop out at you right i saw a [0:08:19] I didn't read it. I put it in my phone or I put it in my pocket. And I thought, I just knew intuitively, like, I bet they want me to go on Tucker. [0:08:31] And sure enough, that's what it was. And a lot of my subscribers and a few of my friends were like, yeah, I kind of figured that would happen. [0:08:40] And it's just because it seems like the thing that we would write about, talk about at Insight to Insight, Tucker would end up talking about. [0:08:51] Like it was maybe more than coincidental, not sure. [0:08:56] And then one day I saw his brother was defending me on X. [0:09:02] And I don't know his brother, but he was bodying people, man. [0:09:06] like buckley can body slam somebody in social media like uh he's he's a phenom and he was just [0:09:15] like laying these guys flat uh for dogging me and it turns out buckley likes my tweets you know so [0:09:23] he reads my stuff and that was the connection there so i got to go on to tucker and had no idea [0:09:31] what we would be discussing at all until I got to the studio. [0:09:38] And it's like, hey, what do you want to talk about? [0:09:43] And he said, well, you know, you're one of my favorite writers. [0:09:48] So whatever. [0:09:49] And I said, well, at Insight to Insight, what do you like the most? [0:09:53] What interests you the most? [0:09:56] And he says, I don't know what that is. [0:09:57] And I'm like, well, the insight to insight is my sub stack. [0:10:02] And he says, oh, I don't read that. [0:10:04] I just read your articles on X. [0:10:07] And I'm like, those aren't articles. [0:10:10] Those are tweets. [0:10:13] So maybe I should shorten the length of my tweets if he thinks those are articles. [0:10:20] But yeah, it was a really great experience. [0:10:22] I said, I want to talk about the gospel, but I'm sure you didn't have me, you know, [0:10:26] you didn't have me come just to talk about that. So let's just talk about Zionism. So, [0:10:31] you know, I had no idea what we would discuss until we sat down to discuss it. I'll say he [0:10:36] is one of the most genuinely decent human beings that I have ever met. And I've told some stories [0:10:44] about, not about Tucker, but about the town he lives in, his community. I had an opportunity to [0:10:51] talk to his community members, his neighbors, had an opportunity to talk to people that know him, [0:10:58] just like even from around town. And they could not speak any more highly of him. And I saw [0:11:06] when I visited his home, his hometown, why he is fighting so hard to save [0:11:16] America as he knows it. [0:11:19] And that is because you can tell [0:11:20] when you land in Portland, Maine, [0:11:22] and you start going out into the country [0:11:25] like everywhere else in America, [0:11:28] once you leave the city, [0:11:30] you can kind of feel [0:11:32] the darkness recede a little bit. [0:11:37] You know what I mean? [0:11:37] Oh, yeah. [0:11:38] You land in a city, [0:11:40] you get there at the airport, [0:11:41] and you start driving. [0:11:42] It doesn't matter. [0:11:43] It could be California, [0:11:44] and you're in Los Angeles and you're headed east. [0:11:49] It could be Dallas, Texas, and you're driving out. [0:11:53] It doesn't matter, but you feel like you're leaving behind [0:11:57] almost this third-world, crappy, decrepit, dystopian reality [0:12:04] that our cities have become in America. [0:12:08] And then the further out you go from the city, [0:12:11] the closer you're getting to the America that you and I know and love. [0:12:17] And you could feel that as you're driving up in the mountains to Tucker's place, [0:12:23] and it's looking more and more like Mayberry every mile. [0:12:28] And then I saw the little gas station. [0:12:31] I know that that has to be the one that he has talked about, [0:12:34] where an Indian or someone from the Middle East, wherever, Pakistan, [0:12:38] come and they put up a vape sign [0:12:45] and they start selling the knockoff drugs [0:12:48] and lotto and porn behind the counter [0:12:51] because it's sort of like a corrupting influence [0:12:59] on a place that almost has to be brought [0:13:02] from the outside in. [0:13:04] You know what I mean? [0:13:04] And you don't build that type of CD establishment in your own community. [0:13:10] You go to someone else's community and build that. [0:13:13] You know what I mean? [0:13:14] If you're putting up a strip club, you don't do that in your town. [0:13:17] You go to the next county and you build a strip club. [0:13:19] And so I saw sort of the Americana that Tucker Carlson wants to save. [0:13:27] And I feel like I understand him a little bit more seeing that. [0:13:32] Yeah. [0:13:33] And so I just, I just, I couldn't, I can't imagine a nicer guy having than having met [0:13:39] Tucker Carlson. [0:13:40] It's just a phenomenal person. [0:13:41] Yeah. [0:13:42] Yeah. [0:13:42] No, I mean, I definitely get that vibe from him. [0:13:44] I, uh, I haven't met him yet. [0:13:47] Maybe one of these days, you know, you're not the only one that's been, uh, experiencing [0:13:52] that. [0:13:52] I remember back in 20, 2021 and 2022, I would write articles, uh, and, you know, post them [0:14:00] online. [0:14:00] And all of a sudden it's like verbatim, the sentence that I wrote in my article is now coming out of Tucker Carlson's mouth. [0:14:08] And it's like someone likes me. [0:14:10] I think it might have been Blake Neff before he got the can. [0:14:14] But, you know, it's just crazy. [0:14:16] And so I think it was you. [0:14:17] There was a whole list of people that had been on this podcast and then they've matriculated their way up to Tucker. [0:14:23] So I'm waiting for the call, Tucker, anytime. [0:14:26] He's definitely, yeah, he's definitely the caricature of the friendly wasp, you know, the white Anglo-Saxon Protestant guy. [0:14:36] And what I really admire about him is, you know, he just lets his guests talk. [0:14:42] They're interesting people. [0:14:43] He wants to know what they have to say. [0:14:45] He always takes time for them to talk about faith, which is obviously that's important to me. [0:14:52] and I watch him get pummeled by the evangelical community. [0:14:58] I watch him get pummeled by the evangelical intelligentsia [0:15:01] and I don't want to say I feel sorry for him as though I pity him, [0:15:07] but I know that it's got to be hard to understand [0:15:11] unless you understand the workings of evangelicalism [0:15:15] as to how the hell did this happen. [0:15:18] I mean, like I understand the mechanizations of big evangelicalism because I've been tracking it for 15 years. [0:15:27] I understand how dark money works in the church. [0:15:31] I understand how associations and parachurch organizations work with NGOs and how government influence, even government influence of other countries trickles into the church. [0:15:45] I understand the theology behind dispensational Zionism and the corrupting influence that that [0:15:53] has had. But imagine that you're Tucker Carlson. You've only been reading the Bible seriously [0:15:59] for a couple years. You're reading it as God wrote it, which is pretty straightforward. [0:16:05] And you have these people calling themselves Christians, jumping down your throat, [0:16:10] alleging that you are the antichrist or that you work for satan because you are under the impression [0:16:16] that god's not a fan of genocide right i mean it's got to be terribly confusing for someone [0:16:22] that doesn't understand what happened in evangelicalism uh now i i don't mean to say [0:16:29] he doesn't understand but i'm sure that he has had a learning curve to figure out how this terrible [0:16:35] ungodly, unseemly demonic tradition wound up inside the evangelical church in this niche [0:16:45] within Protestant Christianity and has also swallowed up good portions of the Church of [0:16:53] Rome as well. Yeah. I'm going to try to pull it up here if I can get it, but there was a new [0:17:02] initiative to combat anti-Semitism at Steubenville. I don't know if you saw this. [0:17:11] Let's see. I can't talk and type at the same time. Yes, here it is. This just came out on July [0:17:15] 21st from EWTN. Coalition of Catholics Against Anti-Semitism expands to college campuses. [0:17:25] Franciscan University of Steubenville plants the flag as the first chapter. And so, of course, [0:17:31] this is all funded by Paul Singer, the Tikva Fund. I know that, what was it? Phylos Project [0:17:40] was involved with this as well. And so they're trying to weaponize, you know, the documents from [0:17:47] the Second Vatican Council, specifically Nostra Aetate. And it's just, you know, I think it's [0:17:55] kind of falling flat on its face. Clearly the young Catholics, they're not sitting back at [0:18:00] home reading Nostra Tate. They're listening to Nick Fuentes and you and other people. [0:18:06] Sometimes, yeah, sometimes I get Catholics, you know, bashing me pretty good because like, [0:18:12] why are you a Protestant when, you know, and they're blaming Protestantism for John Darby? [0:18:18] And it's like, well, John Darby had to leave the organized church, actually. It's not as though [0:18:25] he was inventing these doctrines inside a Protestant church. [0:18:30] He left the faith in order to pursue this novel eschatological vision. [0:18:36] And then I'll bring up Vatican II, 1965, the document that you referenced, [0:18:42] which basically created this. [0:18:45] First of all, it adopted some dispensational suppositions. [0:18:48] And from those dispensational suppositions, it created the Catholic Jewish interfaith movement that directly led to the Messianic Christian movement and the Christian cedar and all these things that started coming out of that particular branch of the dispensational family tree. [0:19:10] In fact, Rod Dreher, the infamously Eastern Orthodox thinker, for lack of a better word, Eastern Orthodoxy has been his personality. [0:19:22] I mean, it's a huge part of who he is, the Benedict Option fellow who apparently did not read his own book and decided to abandon his family and move to Europe. [0:19:33] He was on Jeremy Boring's Israeli infomercial last week bashing Tucker, bashing J. Vance, because he has been absolutely sold out to the Israel lobby. [0:19:49] He's a shill for Israel. [0:19:51] And the Eastern Orthodox have had a very stoward position on the issue of Judaism since the beginning, since the very, very beginning. [0:20:02] I did a republish, and I added some study helps and a newer translation of John Chrysostom's [0:20:13] Against the Jews, his seven-part homily on rabbinic Judaism. [0:20:21] I entitled it A Rubbish Heap of Harlots, which is how he referred to the synagogue. [0:20:27] And he is effectively the patriarch of the Eastern Church. [0:20:31] And since then, they've been strong on the issue. [0:20:34] You know, it was the Eastern Church that never adopted the Hebrew scriptures. [0:20:41] They stayed on the Latin Vulgate the whole time. [0:20:45] Excuse me, not the Latin Vulgate, on the Greek Septuagint the whole time. [0:20:49] Because they were skeptical of the Jewish influence on Jerome. [0:20:58] Turns out, they were right that whole time. [0:21:01] So each branch of historic Christendom has been infiltrated to some degree, some more than others, Protestants worse than all of them. [0:21:13] And it's a problem that has to be rooted out. [0:21:16] And we have to lay the axe to the root. [0:21:19] Amen. [0:21:19] Oh, yeah. [0:21:20] And there's a lot to cover here. [0:21:22] Just in the past couple of minutes, a lot of things have come up. [0:21:24] So first of all, for those that are unaware, we've covered it on this show before, but maybe there's some new people matriculating in. [0:21:31] Need to hear it again. [0:21:32] But the author of Nostra Aetate, this kind of revolutionary document on Catholic-Jewish relations that upended basically 2,000 years of tradition and church teaching, [0:21:44] and the modus vivendi between Christians and Jews, how we were able to live together. [0:21:49] The guy that overthrew all of that and wrote Nostra Aetate is a gentleman by the name of Gregory Baum, who is a Jewish, homosexual, bisexual, whatever, that was born Jewish, converted to Catholicism. [0:22:06] I guess he became a priest and then went in like a kamikaze, blew up the church's teaching on the Jews, created a whole new paradigm, Holocaust theology. [0:22:22] That was invented by this guy. [0:22:26] You can see here there's a whole article on it on Wikipedia that you can take a look at when you have the time. [0:22:32] But it's just amazing. [0:22:34] You know, here he is that he goes in, blows up the church, and then leaves the church, and now, you know, went on to lead his life exploring his sexuality in nonconformist ways. [0:22:49] As a strong supporter of gays, lesbians in the church, Baum had been aware since his adolescence. [0:22:55] And there's two ways of looking at that, which was, oh, that's a heck of a coincidence that he drugged the Catholic Church directly into downgrade and then he turned out to be a sodomite Jew. [0:23:07] Or you could say, you know, honestly, the most logical conclusion is that he was a subversive ideologue from jump. [0:23:17] Yep. [0:23:18] And because we were so conspiratorially adverse, we like to think everything is coincidence. [0:23:24] But I was looking at this not long ago thinking, I think the Jews sabotaged the Catholic Church, and I don't think that's a radical idea at all. [0:23:36] Not at all. And you know what? There is a, the former head of the DDF, so that's the dicastery for the doctrine of the faith, which is essentially the carry-on for what was the Inquisition became the DDF, right? [0:23:51] So there's like an unbroken line there all the way back to the Inquisition. [0:23:56] Well, back in, what year is this? [0:23:59] 1929, I believe. [0:24:01] There was a group formed by a Jewish person that came into the church, [0:24:07] and then all of a sudden, oh, we've got to change all of this stuff. [0:24:10] So they created this clerical association of the Friends of Israel, [0:24:13] which was supposedly set up to pray for the conversion of the Jews. [0:24:18] Well, what really happened is as soon as they got a critical mass, about 3,000 priests and 300 bishops on board, they put forward a plan to change the liturgy, the Good Friday liturgy, because in that liturgy, we say, hey, we pray for the perfidious Jews. [0:24:39] you know these are the people that turn their back on the savior we pray for them [0:24:44] to remove their blindness and come back come back to the messiah come back to jesus christ right [0:24:52] well that was offensive uh to these types of people so they wanted to change it and so [0:24:59] as soon as it came before the dicastery for the doctrine of the faith cardinal rafael mary [0:25:05] Daval shut the whole thing down. And it's amazing the quote that he gives here. He says, [0:25:12] quote, I would hope that these Amici-E Israel would not fall into a trap laid by the Jews [0:25:18] themselves who insinuate themselves throughout modern society and seek with whatever means to [0:25:24] minimize the memory of their history and to take advantage of the goodwill of Christians. [0:25:30] So they then went on to suppress that group. But clearly it it sparked right back up again, as they do. Right. They just as soon as you stamp one flame out, 10 more burst open with different names and different people. [0:25:46] But they're all trying to do the exact same thing. And it's amazing, too, like all of the interconnectedness of this. Right. [0:25:53] We were just talking about this new thing coming up at Steubenville, the Coalition of Catholics Against Anti-Semitism. [0:26:00] Well, you mentioned Rod Dreher, and I pulled up a podcast that he did. [0:26:05] Rod Dreher on the Americans' Right anti-Semitism problem. [0:26:10] Well, who's this? [0:26:11] Who is this that's producing this podcast? [0:26:15] Oh, the Tikva Fund. [0:26:17] once again. And the Tikva Fund, that's the same group right here that's funding this campus group. [0:26:25] So it is like this constellation, this web of all of these different nonprofits and NGOs that are [0:26:33] trying from every angle to get in there and Judaize the church. And it's not just Catholics, [0:26:40] it's Protestants too. And the Orthodox, you're right. You're right about the Orthodox. I got an [0:26:46] earful. Over the weekend, I had a visitor come to Mass, Brother Nathaniel Kappner. Apparently, [0:26:54] just within the last two weeks or so, he got excommunicated by the Russian Orthodox Church [0:27:01] because he speaks out against Judaism too much. And it's like, are you kidding me? The guy's [0:27:10] jewish he's a jewish convert to christianity he's looking at you see that the rest of his people [0:27:17] in every in every tradition um the the lutherans uh they've done the same thing towards luther [0:27:26] right like they're practically anathematizing the founder of their of their faith i don't mean [0:27:34] Jesus, I mean Lutheranism, you see Westminster Confession guys that are coming down heavily, [0:27:45] even at the synodical level, on people who believe the same as the divines, you know, where [0:27:52] we are not allowed to agree with people in our own faith who founded our faith and with the [0:28:02] Orthodox, as I said, Chrysostom was easily the most vehemently anti-Rabbinic church father of [0:28:12] all of them. And so here's the good news though, because yeah, you're noticing all of these [0:28:19] tentacles in every faith. It is absolutely incredible that a population of about [0:28:30] somewhere between 13 and 17 million people on this planet can control and have so much influence [0:28:39] over governments and the centers of influence culturally, financially, [0:28:49] all over the world. But the good news is in the United States, that is quickly becoming [0:28:59] the truth is becoming uncontainable. And we are seeing that right now as the population [0:29:07] is growing increasingly fed up with the propaganda. Anymore, if someone accuses someone [0:29:17] of anti-Semitism, it's quickly becoming a joke. Do you remember back, I'm going to say in 2017 [0:29:26] or so, 2016, it was still a big deal to be called a racist. If someone called you a racist in 2017, [0:29:37] you'd be like, you'd be sweating bullets. Like, oh my gosh, I hope that doesn't get out. People, [0:29:44] what will people think of me? I don't want anyone to think that. And you would do anything you could [0:29:49] to make sure no one called you a racist. [0:29:53] But then comes George Floyd and Black Lives Matter [0:29:58] and they start burning down the city. [0:30:00] It becomes such an overused canard, the accusation, [0:30:08] that it's not nearly as effective now as it once was. [0:30:11] And it was in 2017 that I was telling my listening audience, [0:30:16] do not take it seriously when someone calls you a racist [0:30:19] in fact, make fun of them. I told them, you know, if you write the word racist, put it in all caps [0:30:27] with like three or four exclamation points just to clarify that you're mocking them. Oh no, I'm [0:30:34] racist. You know, like that's how, oh, our town is racist. You have to turn it into a joke to [0:30:40] demonstrate your word is empty. It's hollow. It's vapid. We know it doesn't mean anything. We know [0:30:48] that it's fake. We know that it doesn't stick. Okay. So no one takes it seriously. I think you're [0:30:55] a racist. Am I, am I a racist? You have to give that word the respect that it deserves, which is [0:31:01] none. And we are quickly approaching that, that place in that same trajectory with antisemitism [0:31:09] where now, thank God I'm seeing others, not just me. I'm seeing other people, random people, [0:31:16] mock the accusation of anti-Semitism or put it in scare quotes. Oh, I'm an anti-Semite, [0:31:23] am I? Who cares? It doesn't mean anything. So it was David Ben-Gurion in 1948 that first suggested, [0:31:34] at least that I've been able to find, that anyone suggested that you use the term anti-Semitism [0:31:41] to refer to anti-Zionism. It was in 63 that that really picked up based off of a suggestion by the [0:31:50] then president of AIPAC. It was in 1967 at the Yom Kippur War that it practically, you know, [0:32:03] in the headlines of the newspapers, this anti-Semitism accusation on account of American [0:32:13] foreign policy. So they were tying the idea of anti-Semitism not to Aryan race theory, [0:32:19] not to behavioral, excuse me, biological determinism, not because of anything associated [0:32:25] with the nazi party but because of a foreign policy opinion so if you go to the website [0:32:34] of the international holocaust remembrance alliance or to the adl or apac or yad vashem [0:32:46] or any of the major jewish organizations yeah that's what i was going to point out [0:32:52] working definition of anti-Semitism is what it says. They've had that working definition since [0:33:00] 2008. All right. So they've not been able to define it in all this time. Carrie Perjean [0:33:08] Bowler, former Miss USA or whatever she was, she had that now infamous meeting with the [0:33:16] Religious Liberty Commission in Washington, D.C. Eric Metaxas, Seth Dillon was there. [0:33:25] Who were the other jackasses on that thing? Cardinal Dolan. Cardinal Dolan. [0:33:32] Cardinal Bishop Barron. The Attorney General for the state of Texas, I believe. Remember what [0:33:39] what they really kicked her off for is she had asked a question they didn't want to answer, [0:33:47] and that is, what is anti-Semitism? They were having essentially a meeting about anti-Semitism. [0:33:56] That's what the conversation was. That's what they were there to condemn. That was the topic. [0:34:01] And so she asked the question, what is it? [0:34:05] I'm Catholic. [0:34:06] Does that include me? [0:34:08] And they refused to answer that question. [0:34:12] You know, eventually she was kicked off. [0:34:14] Eric Metaxas launched this vicious attack on her for weeks and would not let up. [0:34:23] And to this day, we'll still not answer the question. [0:34:27] What is anti-Semitism? [0:34:28] So I have been trying to tell my followers and anyone else that will listen to me, it's not a sin. [0:34:36] So when someone accuses you of being an anti-Semite, it's no different than if they were to accuse you of being a Republican. [0:34:44] Right. [0:34:44] That's not a moral blot on me because anti-Semitism, first of all, you can define sin. [0:34:54] Like sin is very definable. [0:34:56] Sin is any violation of God's law. [0:34:58] sin is lawlessness, the scripture says. The law in question is the moral law of God. We call it [0:35:04] the Ten Commandments. Morality doesn't change because what makes something immoral is that it [0:35:10] is unlike the character and nature of God. God is immutable. Therefore, morality doesn't change. [0:35:17] Right and wrong is immutable. If there is a definition of a sin that changes every two weeks [0:35:24] based upon the geopolitical needs of a body politic somewhere on the globe, [0:35:29] right off the bat, you know that that's not a sin [0:35:32] because the definition of sin doesn't change. [0:35:35] Right. [0:35:36] So what? [0:35:38] And I was going to say, you know, it used to be that, you know, [0:35:42] if someone was an anti-Semite, it meant here's a person that hates Jews. [0:35:49] Today, an anti-Semite is a person that Jews hate. [0:35:54] And that's how it's been. And the reason we know this and we know what we for those of us that have been paying attention and aware of this, we know what anti-Semitism is. [0:36:05] It's a it's a word. It's a weapon. It's a label. And there is no there's no one else to give a better crystal clear definition and example of how it's used than the former Mossad agent, Viktor Ostrovsky, author of the book, By Means of Deception or The Other Side of Deception. [0:36:24] He gave an interview back in 1995, September 12th, 1995 on C-SPAN. [0:36:30] And let's take a listen to what he has to say. [0:36:34] And it would help. [0:36:36] It would help if the sound was routed properly. [0:36:40] They do because I used to ask them to do it. [0:36:44] I mean, when I was in the Mossad and we had a guy that gave us problems in the U.S. [0:36:48] And he was speaking out and he was talking like Pete talked once and said, [0:36:53] Israel is bombing Lebanon with cluster bombs. [0:36:56] We say, hey, who's that guy? [0:36:59] You know, Peek Makakhi, we used to call him. [0:37:03] Yeah, which is Peek the Cockroach. [0:37:06] Because he makes a lot of noise and you can't get rid of him. [0:37:10] So what you do is you get in touch [0:37:12] with a guy in the station in New York [0:37:16] or in the station in Washington. [0:37:17] And you say, tell the guys at Bnei Brea to label him. [0:37:23] And of course the campaign starts and before you know it, the guy's legal. [0:37:27] And he's an anti-Semite because that's what we say he is. And that's one stain you cannot wash. [0:37:35] Now, it shames me as a Jew to tell you that, but that's the fact and it's wrong. [0:37:42] There it is. So you call the guys down at B'nai B'rith. Hey, I'm having a problem with [0:37:48] so-and-so, label them. Go ahead, label them. And then they get labeled an anti-Semite and your life [0:37:54] gets systematically destroyed. Look what happened to Kanye West. How soon, how soon have we forgotten? [0:38:00] And until we start mocking that label, like we did with racist, because it's so overused, [0:38:08] it will continue to be that way. So as long as we are afraid of that term, [0:38:12] then it will still have impact. [0:38:15] We have to empty that term of its weight [0:38:18] or it will continue to hurt us [0:38:20] every time they hit us with it. [0:38:22] It needs to become to such an extent a joke [0:38:27] that it actually mocks and besmirches [0:38:31] the person that uses it. [0:38:33] You should be made fun of as a person [0:38:36] that uses the term anti-Semite [0:38:39] as someone that is foolish, [0:38:41] that is gullible. [0:38:43] And it's actually very dark. [0:38:45] You're a bad person if you label someone an anti-Semite [0:38:49] because you're trying to imply [0:38:52] that they're a Nazi at the heart of it. [0:38:56] When you label someone an anti-Semite, [0:38:59] that person doing the labeling [0:39:01] is presuming upon the hearers, [0:39:04] the people that it will affect, [0:39:06] that they're dumb [0:39:07] and that they think the term means [0:39:10] the person holds to Aryan race theory or biological determinism or that they want to put Jews in [0:39:17] camps. They want the mass extermination of Jews. They think that Hitler was a good guy. That's what [0:39:24] they hope the rest of the populace thinks, right? Now, if you press them on it, they'll say, well, [0:39:30] it just means that you hate Jews. Well, why didn't you use the label? You hate Jews. Why not use the [0:39:36] word hate. Why use that specific word? Because it's an association with the Third Reich. When [0:39:44] you label someone an anti-Semite, it's the same as labeling them a Nazi. And what you're trying [0:39:51] to do is destroy that person's reputation to ruin that person's life. Listen, wives have left their [0:40:00] husbands because they were labeled anti-Semite. Children, especially if they are brainwashed in [0:40:07] the academy or in the public schools, they will disown their own parents if they are [0:40:14] stained with that unmovable, as he said, you can't get that stain off, that immovable, [0:40:25] unwashable unatonable sin and so you're really trying to utterly destroy a person when you label [0:40:34] them with that which means you're a bad person it's kind of like if if if uh there's an individual [0:40:41] like president trump for example that they are trying their damnedest to paint as an anti-semite [0:40:50] or as a Nazi, they're asking for them to be assassinated. [0:40:55] Are they not? [0:40:56] Yes. [0:40:56] Are they not painting them with this label, [0:41:00] hoping that someone takes them seriously, [0:41:03] hoping that a mentally deranged young man would kill them, [0:41:08] thinking that they're doing something heroic, [0:41:11] picturing in their mind, [0:41:12] I'm just a modern day Dietrich Bonhoeffer. [0:41:16] I'm trying to... [0:41:17] So, um, it's not just, you're a joke for using the term. You are a bad and immoral person by using that term because it means you're trying to destroy someone for an opinion. And the opinion is probably not, they want to gas a bunch of Jews. [0:41:35] Right. And this has been something that I've been dealing with. You know this and the people that watch this show know this. We're going to have more on this as as it develops. But this woman, Nina Beasley, is like one of the worst people I have ever known in my life. [0:41:52] I foolishly used to be friends with her. She used to babysit my kids. And just a couple of weeks ago, she got in front of the entire county level Republican Party and slandered me for 30 minutes with these types of accusations. [0:42:11] and so I've actually got like an entire, [0:42:15] because she, and she slanders this show, right? [0:42:18] She slanders this show as a hate show, [0:42:20] as, you know, this is, they just, they support Hitler [0:42:23] and they talk about killing black people and blah, blah, blah. [0:42:26] And it's like, okay. [0:42:28] And so I actually, I did an analysis using AI [0:42:31] and I'll eventually do a live stream. [0:42:33] We'll go over this. [0:42:34] But it's like, what do we actually talk about here on this show? [0:42:38] Well, according to AI and the transcripts that she made, that she uses, 12% of the show is about the economy, right? [0:42:48] And when you go all the way down, you see that... [0:42:53] Hold on. Are you saying that this woman put your show into AI and got a transcript with by topic broken down? [0:43:04] Yes. They have a whole website. [0:43:06] They have a whole website. I'll pull it up. It's it's insane. Let's see. Truth. I don't even want to, like, give them the airtime. But this so they've made this website. Right. And then they went through my Twitter account and basically any person that would like or comment on any of my posts, they've been collecting and putting on this list, doxing them, calling their employers. [0:43:36] harassing them because they, I swear to God, may God strike me dead. And so they've got a whole [0:43:45] tab here called the backlash with the transcripts. They've transcribed every single show. [0:43:51] Where's the Jewish money funding this? Oh, well, well. It's somewhere. [0:43:56] So there's a couple of people involved in this and we've talked about them before. You can, [0:44:01] of course, go back on this program to the first and second times that JD has been on the show, [0:44:07] but we talked about, there was a guy that showed up here in North Idaho out of the blue, [0:44:14] out of nowhere. Yeah, I remember you talking about him. [0:44:16] From Booz Allen Hamilton. And it's like, so you're working a six-figure job in Crystal City, [0:44:23] Virginia. You spent 25 years working psyops with the Army. And then you just up and move [0:44:30] your family to North Idaho, where if you're Jewish, there's no synagogue up here. There's [0:44:35] no Jewish community up here for you to be a part of. So why did he move here? And then all of a [0:44:41] sudden, just so I can, just so I can understand the website, the, the, the photos on the website [0:44:48] are people who have interacted positively with your show. So then they dox them with a photo. [0:44:57] So yes. Yeah. Look, they need they need like an old fashioned hillbilly ass stomping is what they need. [0:45:05] Well, I disavow all forms of violence. But yeah, they'll they'll notice that, you know, like, for example, this guy, Dan Brannon. [0:45:13] Right. We tried to do a little community meetup here in November or October of last year. [0:45:19] We put it out there. Hey, everybody, we're going to a taco joint. Come out, get dinner. [0:45:23] We'll hang out, meet other like-minded people. [0:45:26] Dan Brandon was one of the people that showed up. [0:45:28] So they sent an operative into that little get-together [0:45:32] who took photos of everybody that was there, [0:45:36] and then they called the police on us. [0:45:38] And then they made this website, [0:45:41] and basically anybody that they got a photo of, they've doxed. [0:45:46] And then they've built little dossiers on all of these people, [0:45:49] doxing their businesses, [0:45:51] like posting all kinds of ridiculous stuff. See, look, Oh, Dan Bell was in a picture with Dave [0:45:58] Riley. Therefore Dan Bell deserves to be on an extremism list. And then they've got Idaho [0:46:04] extremist groups. I'm just trying to wrap my head around this. JD. And also preemptively, [0:46:10] I disavow everything that I, that should be disavowed in advance. I even disavow, disavow, [0:46:18] disavowing if I should. [0:46:21] I'm not sure what I should. [0:46:22] If I should disavow, what I do. [0:46:24] Oh my gosh. [0:46:24] The person putting together this website [0:46:28] where they're taking human beings [0:46:31] from their own community [0:46:32] and then plastering their faces up [0:46:37] to shame them [0:46:39] because they interact with your freedom of speech, [0:46:44] with their speech, [0:46:46] does that person live i've got two questions first of all does that person live in your community [0:46:52] yes okay second question i don't understand just explain it to me in as simple terms as possible [0:47:01] hear me out why hasn't their ass been kicked yet you know i don't comprehend it is all i'm saying [0:47:14] I don't understand. I'm not saying it should. I'm not saying it should. I'm saying anywhere I've [0:47:20] lived in red state America, that's a way that you get that you get your ass kicked. I don't [0:47:27] comprehend this. Well, so I mean, there's not computing. So one of the people involved with [0:47:33] this little project is a guy by the name of William Lee. I believe we've talked about him [0:47:38] on the show before. If not, well, congratulations, Will, you've made it on the show. He popped up [0:47:44] out of nowhere back around COVID, 21, 22, immediately insinuated himself in the political [0:47:51] landscape, volunteering for a PAC, got involved with that candlelight Christian fellowship church, [0:47:58] started a bunch of telegram chat groups. He's a web developer and he was spreading all kinds [0:48:06] of falsehoods about me. And one day I saw him actually at the cigar lounge and I took him out [0:48:13] back and I said, William, in any other age in America, I wouldn't be here talking to you. [0:48:20] I would be decking you in the face for what you have tried to do to me and my family. [0:48:29] And I gave him the opportunity to hash out whatever issue it was that he had with me right there. [0:48:35] But he fell silent. He had nothing to say. He could not bring himself to make any of these [0:48:42] accusations to my face. And so it's like, well, what am I going to do here? If I deck the guy, [0:48:49] um, I'm going to get charged. I'll get charged with, uh, assault or battery or whatever. [0:48:55] So I can't do that. And a lot of this does seem to be that they run, uh, let me see if I can find [0:49:02] it. Uh, they run an entire X account, uh, called not Dave Riley. And on it, it's, it's fit. It's [0:49:12] See, it's like a fake account. [0:49:14] They've put my house. [0:49:16] They put my fucking house. [0:49:18] Okay? [0:49:19] So congratulations, everybody. [0:49:21] Now you know where I live. [0:49:23] And they've posted my address. [0:49:26] They've posted where I live. [0:49:28] I have three children with one on the way. [0:49:31] They've taken quotes and clips out of context. [0:49:34] They call me a Hamas supporter. [0:49:36] This guy, Dustin Hurst, he's another one of these people [0:49:40] that's been involved with this thing with me. [0:49:43] And, you know, it's just, I don't really talk about it too much. [0:49:46] I don't talk about it because what's anybody going to do? [0:49:51] There's really nothing anybody can do for me. [0:49:53] These people are able to just lie about me. [0:49:56] They use anonymous accounts. [0:49:59] As soon as I figure out who one of them is, [0:50:01] they change the name of the account and start a new one. [0:50:04] It's like trying to nail jelly to a board. [0:50:06] and frankly it makes me sound I feel like I sound kind of crazy when I try to explain to people the [0:50:14] level of retaliation that I have had just for exercising my freedom of speech and so yeah [0:50:23] what do we do about it I don't know it does sound crazy it does sound crazy a little bit because [0:50:29] people don't have a frame of reference for understanding what's happening. So, [0:50:37] you know, like even from my perspective, I don't fully understand what you're saying. I mean, [0:50:42] I guess I am. I'm understanding it, but it seems really bizarre. So you do a podcast, [0:50:51] a webcast, and you build up an audience, and then you say things that Jews don't like. [0:50:57] And then these white people in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, of all places, and I'm familiar with Coeur d'Alene. You've got a large redneck population. [0:51:11] And we mean that in the best possible way. [0:51:14] Oh, yeah. Endearingly. I'm one of you. I don't mean that in a negative way at all. [0:51:18] So I guess to say, you're not Portland, you're not Seattle, you're not San Francisco, right? [0:51:25] You're not Austin, you're none of those things. [0:51:28] So it doesn't make sense that they would spend so much time and attention trying to take out one guy who is, no offense, not Tucker Carlson. [0:51:39] No. [0:51:39] Not with a huge, unbelievably huge footprint. [0:51:43] No. Marginal at best. [0:51:46] So that's bizarre. [0:51:47] Yeah. [0:51:47] It is bizarre. [0:51:48] and I was telling you this a little bit before we got started, but it's like, you know, the city of [0:51:53] Coeur d'Alene, they elected a new pro-gay mayor. He was endorsed by the local Zionist church, [0:52:00] Candlelight Christian Fellowship. He also, by the way, called for Israel to missile strike my house. [0:52:07] That's on Twitter. You can find the tweet where he was calling for Israel to bomb my house. [0:52:12] He also signed the pro-abortion initiative legislation. [0:52:18] And now that the evangelical Zionists got their guy in as mayor of Coeur d'Alene, they are running a $3.1 million deficit. [0:52:27] And they're going to be raising taxes on everybody. [0:52:29] And what do these Republicans involved that are with the Zionist church, what did they spend two hours at the last meeting talking about? Was it combating the shortfalls in taxes in Coeur d'Alene? Was it combating the LGBT agenda, which is now being spread by the mayor? [0:52:53] No. They spent two hours arguing about whether or not I should be allowed to march in the 4th of July parade with the Republican Party. They wasted over 500 man hours. There's 83 people that sit on the Central Committee. So every hour that they spend talking about a topic is 83 man hours. [0:53:21] It's just bizarre. [0:53:24] And they have a little group chat, and it's open to the public. [0:53:28] Anybody can go join. [0:53:29] It's called the Kootenai County Spectator Chat. [0:53:32] And more often than not, if you log in on a Sunday morning, are they talking about the gospel? [0:53:38] Are they talking about what happened at church that day? [0:53:41] Nope. [0:53:42] They're talking about Dave Riley. [0:53:44] it's [0:53:45] and this was actually a question that I wanted to ask you [0:53:49] because I feel like [0:53:51] this can't just be like [0:53:53] oh well APAC is [0:53:54] laundering some money somewhere to get [0:53:57] these guys to attack me [0:53:58] I don't think it's just that [0:53:59] I think that there is a [0:54:02] level of the demonic [0:54:04] actually that is active [0:54:07] in this because there's levels of [0:54:08] demonic activity right [0:54:10] possession is [0:54:12] the like ultimate level, but there are grades below possession. One of them being demonic [0:54:19] obsession. So I was curious if in your time dealing with this type of stuff, if you've ever [0:54:25] ran into this where people become obsessed and their whole life becomes obsessing about what [0:54:35] some internet personality says on their pod. I mean, it just, it doesn't, it's not healthy. [0:54:40] It can't be healthy, but is it demonic? [0:54:42] Most people that deal with the demonic and that end of the spiritual spectrum will opine and suggest that different geographical locations have different levels of demonic activity. [0:55:01] For example, probably the classic book that I could reference that most people will have heard of or have had a chance of reading would be Frank Peretti's This Present Darkness. [0:55:17] And in that series, well, it's not really a series. [0:55:21] He has, I think, three books that are very similarly written, but they're not like, it's not really a series. [0:55:29] this present darkness and then he had one piercing the darkness it's about a pastor in a small town [0:55:35] the first one i referenced is he's a pastor in a small town and for whatever reason there is [0:55:43] exceptional demonic activity in that community and um you know he the protagonist is you know [0:55:53] this this pastor and i think maybe there was a reporter involved or something it's all kind of [0:55:58] blurry. I was a kid when I read it. But the point is, um, there are definitely places on earth that [0:56:04] for whatever reason, um, there are, there's exceptional darkness there. And usually there, [0:56:11] there is a reason it could be an individual. It could be a cult. It could be a religion, [0:56:17] but what you are describing, to be honest, it does sound next level. I mean, I've been around [0:56:24] a long time. I've been in communities that I thought to myself, I feel, I think that this is [0:56:30] a real strong demonic. I think there's a demonic foothold here. I think it's a demonic stronghold. [0:56:38] I've, I've decided not to move to like a town where I thought that I, I felt that like there [0:56:45] was a lack of good churches and there was, you know, an exceptional number of, of bad things [0:56:52] going on in that community that are a little bit unexplained. But at the end of the day, [0:56:56] that's all on the other side of the veil. And we're looking through the mirror darkly. And [0:57:02] it's just not like God does not give us the eyes to see that stuff. It's not in our plane of [0:57:10] existence that we can see and comprehend and know. But I do know this, goodness and evil do not [0:57:19] like each other much. Okay. So it's just the way that it is. So if someone is trying to [0:57:25] bring light to the darkness, it's going to be resisted. The light came to the darkness and [0:57:31] the darkness esteemed it not because its deeds were evil. And so that's why they killed Christ. [0:57:36] I always kind of describe that principle of the light coming into the darkness and the darkness [0:57:45] esteeming it not to picture in your mind a 25 year old man child that should have grown up but [0:57:51] never did and he has a basement bedroom it's one o'clock in the afternoon and his mother you know [0:58:00] comes into his room and turns the light on to grab his underwear and his dirty laundry off the floor [0:58:06] so that she can be his maid and do his washing for him. [0:58:12] And he screams at her and curses and throws the pillow at her, [0:58:17] close the door, turn the light off because he doesn't want the light. [0:58:22] It's waking him up. [0:58:24] He doesn't want to see, first of all, how disgusting his room is. [0:58:28] He wants the curtains closed. [0:58:30] He wants the light off. [0:58:31] He wants to live in that because it's better than seeing how wicked the room is around him. [0:58:39] Well, societally, there is a lot of darkness in this world. [0:58:44] And there is a lot that can be explained in the light of Christ, in a biblical worldview, [0:58:50] in the truth that God gives us in his word and by his natural and general revelation. [0:58:59] and those who are of the darkness, [0:59:03] those who, as Jesus said, [0:59:04] you are of your father, the devil, [0:59:07] they hate the light. [0:59:08] They despise the light. [0:59:11] And so that frightens people. [0:59:12] But there's something else that often happens too. [0:59:15] And that is people are intimidated by [0:59:18] or afraid of the light, [0:59:20] not because they themselves are evil. [0:59:23] It's because ignorant is bliss. [0:59:26] Ignorance is bliss [0:59:27] and they don't want to know the truth. [0:59:30] It's frightening. [0:59:32] It's unsettling to them. [0:59:35] And so when they hear things [0:59:37] that they have not heard before [0:59:38] and they learn things [0:59:39] that they have not learned before, [0:59:42] it is frightening and it is off-putting. [0:59:46] It's just kind of like if you are, [0:59:48] if you pride yourself as being a truth teller, [0:59:52] you can't exactly walk up to a sheltered housewife [0:59:56] who has never read a book on a controversial topic. [1:00:05] She's not the type to listen to Alex Jones [1:00:07] and just go, hey, it was probably Israel [1:00:12] that knocked down the Twin Towers. [1:00:16] Like you can't just, you gotta, [1:00:19] they don't have a frame of reference for understanding that. [1:00:22] And if you were to say, sit down for 30 minutes [1:00:25] And let me tell you about the Jews. I mean, it'll be like drinking water out of a hydrant. So it's so deep. There's so much there that a common response that people have is fear. They're afraid. [1:00:40] Yeah. And that's, you know, at least politically speaking, you know, this has been something I've been telling people for a while, which is like, you know, and by the way, if you, if you haven't ever gone like door knocking, you need to figure that out. You know, that's a part of the Mr. Miyagi, uh, wax on wax off. Like what does door knocking really do? Is it going to like save America tomorrow? No, not really, but it'll teach you how to interact with other humans. It'll teach you how to, you know, make friends and influence people. [1:01:10] And it's like, so imagine you're going out door knocking. [1:01:13] Knock, knock. [1:01:14] Hi. [1:01:15] Do you know all of this bad stuff that the Jews are doing to our country? [1:01:19] Like, they're going to slam the door in your face. [1:01:21] And most people don't even need to know, frankly. [1:01:25] I think most people don't even need to know. [1:01:27] What you do need, though, is an elite group of people that are aware of the problems, [1:01:33] the national security implications of partnering with Israel, for example. [1:01:37] and you go out door knocking for Thomas Massey, right? [1:01:41] You give them a good candidate [1:01:44] and you don't even have to talk [1:01:46] about some of these uglier issues [1:01:49] that are deep and never ending. [1:01:52] And, you know, and especially today, [1:01:55] and this is something I wanted to talk about with you more, [1:01:57] you know, since your appearance on Tucker Carlson [1:02:01] and everything that's been going on, frankly, [1:02:04] since October 7th, [1:02:05] I do think that like a large swatch of the American people are becoming aware of this. [1:02:11] And it is evidenced by going out in the real world. [1:02:14] So this is a photograph from Coeur d'Alene two weeks ago. [1:02:20] And just driving down the road in a Subaru Outback, somebody decided to write on the back of their car, Talmud equals Zionism. [1:02:29] So it has broken containment. [1:02:32] And so what are you seeing on your end? [1:02:35] I know on our end, this church that we've talked about, Candlelight Christian Fellowship, I have heard from people who would know that they are down about 300, what do you call them, parishioners, participants, churchgoers. [1:02:52] They've lost about 300 since the last election. [1:02:56] So they are certainly seeing it in their pews. [1:03:01] What are you seeing, I guess, in your neck of the woods when it comes to this great awakening that seems to be happening? [1:03:08] Hey, David, I want you to ask me that question again in just a second. [1:03:13] I'm having connectivity issues. [1:03:15] Let me go yell at my kids real quick to get off the Internet. [1:03:18] OK. [1:03:19] See if that helps. [1:03:20] Sure. [1:03:20] Hold on. [1:03:21] Are you hearing me OK? [1:03:23] Because you're cutting out. [1:03:23] OK, I'm hearing you just fine. [1:03:30] The N word. [1:04:00] Thank you. [1:04:30] Oh. [1:04:54] Where'd you go? [1:04:55] What happened to... [1:04:56] I don't know where I went. [1:04:57] Your camera. [1:04:58] yeah your camera's doing like a weird following thing too um yeah it does that i don't know [1:05:05] it's a robot camera um i just bought it so it says i lost network connection [1:05:12] we're still let me go get my stuff hold on just a second yeah i've got several different uh [1:05:21] Hey, can you please put it on the right one? [1:05:28] One if it's better and keep losing connection. [1:05:32] Camera. [1:05:42] Just forget all the other networks. [1:06:06] Hey, did you do that? [1:06:07] Did you sign that there? [1:06:08] Yes. [1:06:09] Yes. [1:06:10] Yes. [1:06:11] Yes. [1:06:12] Yes. [1:06:15] Yes. [1:06:16] Yes. [1:06:17] Yes. [1:06:18] Yes. [1:06:19] Yes. [1:06:20] Yes. [1:06:21] Yes. [1:06:22] Yes. [1:06:23] Yes. [1:06:24] Yes. [1:06:25] Yes. [1:06:26] Yes. [1:06:27] Yes. [1:06:28] Yes. [1:06:29] Yes. [1:06:30] Yes. [1:06:31] Yes. [1:06:32] Yes. [1:06:33] Yes. [1:06:34] Yes. [1:06:35] Yes. [1:06:36] Yes. [1:06:37] Yes. [1:06:38] you [1:06:45] you [1:06:49] you [1:06:53] you [1:06:57] you [1:06:59] you [1:07:01] you [1:07:02] you [1:07:07] The speed should be better. [1:07:09] There's no reason your speed should be better. [1:07:11] I think it's all your Chrome tabs. [1:07:14] You have a ton of Chrome tabs. [1:07:19] So I'm testing around your phone [1:07:20] and see if I'm right. [1:07:27] I'll close them off. [1:07:31] Well, let me use this. [1:07:32] You got 10 megabits per second. [1:07:34] that should be more than enough [1:07:38] why isn't it going [1:07:40] I've got perfect audio and video on my end [1:07:44] I hate closing my tabs [1:07:50] yeah I've got like 100 open [1:07:54] yeah I know I've got like 100 open [1:07:56] ADD is a superpower [1:08:01] well I got a workflow [1:08:04] and so I have the tabs open that I use all the time. [1:08:08] Yeah. [1:08:08] Before you close, you can save all the open tabs [1:08:12] as a new folder of bookmarks [1:08:13] so that when you go and log in, [1:08:16] that's what I do for my stuff is I just... [1:08:18] Really? On Chrome? [1:08:20] Yeah. Well, I use Brave, [1:08:22] but it should be functionally the same on Chrome. [1:08:24] Basically, if you just open like a shit ton of tabs, [1:08:26] let's say 20 tabs, [1:08:27] you go into your bookmarks [1:08:29] and you should be able to have a way [1:08:31] to save all open tabs. [1:08:34] Yeah, it's called bookmark all tabs, [1:08:36] at least in Brave. [1:08:38] And it'll make a little folder [1:08:40] and then you can just click on the folder [1:08:41] and it'll pop all of the websites up. [1:08:46] So... [1:08:46] That's a neat little work hack. [1:08:49] Oh, yeah. [1:08:49] Dude, wait till you start figuring out AI. [1:08:52] I had a breakthrough with AI a couple weeks ago. [1:08:55] I've designed five websites in two weeks [1:08:58] and not little... [1:09:00] here's a couple photos like full-on back-end forums and encrypted messaging CRMs donations [1:09:09] stripe integrations bitcoin integrations it's it's crazy it ai really does unlock a lot of this [1:09:17] and the next the next step for me is going to be making a autonomous ai agent that i can treat [1:09:22] essentially as an employee and i'll be able to text message it leave it voicemails and be like [1:09:28] hey, I want an article written about this incident. [1:09:31] Here's five tweets and a press release about it. [1:09:34] Here's your take. [1:09:36] Go write the article and then send to me for approval. [1:09:39] And so that'll be cool. [1:09:40] I can't wait. [1:09:41] I can't wait to figure it out. [1:09:51] I cannot hear you now. [1:09:58] Okay. My bad. There we go. Uh, ask me that question again. Yeah. I will, I will approximate [1:10:10] the, uh, the question that I asked, um, because I'm not gonna be able to ask it the same way, [1:10:15] but I can, I can edit it so that I asked the question and then I can edit right to your [1:10:20] answer. And then I'm, I'm good for about 25, 30 more minutes. Okay. Yeah. We'll wrap it up. This [1:10:24] is like one of the last two uh questions that i kind of have top of mind but uh i mentioned you [1:10:31] know there is a great awakening it's kind of been happening since you've been on tucker i mean it's [1:10:35] really been happening since october 7th to the point that you know look this is cordelaine last [1:10:40] week there's a car driving around with talmud equals zionism uh on the back i can't figure out [1:10:46] david is that is that a pro talmud thing or a pro zionism uh or is that an anti-zionism i believe [1:10:53] this is an anti-Zionism thing. I would think it appears to be, or at least it appears to me that [1:11:00] way. And one of the other things is that this local Zionist church candlelight Christian [1:11:05] fellowship, I have it on good authority that 300 people have left the church since the last [1:11:11] election when they endorsed this pro-gay mayor guy. So I'm, I'm encountering signs of a great [1:11:19] awakening when I leave my house. What are you seeing on the ground in your area? [1:11:27] Yeah, people are absolutely starting to figure it out. I looked up polling this morning because [1:11:33] we know that Israel is incredibly unpopular with almost everyone but evangelicals. [1:11:42] Israel, and this is what the people need to understand who make fun of us as conspiracy theorists. [1:11:52] When I tell them about how their AI is manipulated by Project 545, when I explain to them that the Knesset has a $730 million allowance every year that's given to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to manipulate Americans with their active measures program, [1:12:10] When I tell them about the Unit 8200 commandos that are spying on Americans with all of their apps, then sending that money from their Silicon Valley businesses back to Israel because it's actually the Israeli government that owns those and has a significant amount of control over them. [1:12:33] And also they're collecting our private data for the state of Israel. [1:12:37] that all sounds very conspiratorial. So I explain it like this. Israel has one ally in the world, [1:12:47] and that's the United States. That's it. They will build relationships for a while with like [1:12:55] India right now. They're trying to foster that relationship, but they're going after India [1:13:02] as a plan B in case something happens in the United States because they realize how [1:13:07] close they are to not having us. [1:13:10] And as long as they maintain that one ally, [1:13:13] then they will not be wiped off the face of the planet by their neighbors. [1:13:19] You got to understand in 1973, in the Yom Kippur War, [1:13:25] they were very close to disappearing. [1:13:30] It was Golda Meir, I think, that said the third temple is falling. [1:13:37] Very, very concerned that Israel was about 24 hours away from being done as a nation. [1:13:49] And Nixon wasn't going to lift a finger. [1:13:53] Why would he? [1:13:54] You've got the Levant affair in 57. [1:13:59] You've got, or was it 53? [1:14:01] You've got the USS Liberty in 67. [1:14:09] And Israel is assassinating people all over Europe. [1:14:13] They are a terrorist state. [1:14:15] Why would Nixon give them a dime? [1:14:17] He gets a phone call. [1:14:19] The phone call is because Israel had just rolled out its nuclear weapons from the Demona lab. [1:14:29] it's basically a series of caves where their nuclear laboratory was it's the lab that jfk [1:14:37] was trying to uh and have inspections because he believed that they were trying to produce [1:14:44] nuclear weapons and then he died and no one else cared any longer about their nuclear program so [1:14:52] So they rolled nukes out of the cave in 73, out on the runway within sight of our American spy planes. [1:15:02] They knew what they were doing. [1:15:03] Nixon gets a call. [1:15:04] And we know from what Henry Kissinger later said in an interview, and he also wrote about it a little bit in his book, [1:15:15] that whatever that phone call was, it amounted to you help us or we will cause nuclear winter. [1:15:22] not that Israel was going to nuke the United States or nuke our allies, [1:15:29] but Israel was going to nuke the Middle East. [1:15:32] And because of the launch on warning doctrine, [1:15:38] because everyone had a hair trigger in the cold war, [1:15:42] the belief is even now today, [1:15:46] but especially back then that if one nuke goes up, [1:15:49] they all go right. [1:15:51] Like if you listen to Annie Jacobson describe this in her book, you know, the world can probably not survive a single nuclear bomb. [1:16:02] I don't mean in terms of a test, but I mean an active nuclear weapon used on a population of any size would set off a string of circumstances in which every nation is firing. [1:16:14] So essentially, what Israel did is say, you give us what we want or we will end human civilization as you know it. [1:16:25] So we picture in our mind the crazy Islamic extremist with a suicide belt. [1:16:32] Israel has a Jewish suicide belt, which is about 42 nuclear weapons that they've had pointed at our head since 1973, holding American foreign policy hostage. [1:16:48] After that phone call was over, Nixon launched Operation Nickelgrass, which was the largest airdrop supply drop in human history. [1:17:02] Even to this day, we've never had one bigger. [1:17:05] So whatever they said, Nixon kicked the tires and lit the fires, and we sent them everything that we possibly could. [1:17:14] And then they repelled their invaders. [1:17:17] They, you know, we save the day effectively. [1:17:21] So Israel understands that if America is not with them, they get wiped off the face of the planet. [1:17:29] Meanwhile, Israel's support in the United States is lower than it's been since Kennedy was president. [1:17:37] That support that's hanging on by a thread is hanging on by a thread by one demographic in the U.S. [1:17:46] and that demographic is American evangelicals. [1:17:50] So all of, and then that pressure is put onto our politicians [1:17:55] and those politicians are the ones that save Israel's butt [1:17:58] in the U.S. House and Senate. [1:18:00] Okay, so that's how that works. [1:18:02] So Israel is spending this huge amount of money, [1:18:06] but instead of trying to maintain [1:18:10] sort of a propagandic control of media [1:18:13] like the Soviet Union did over half the world, [1:18:15] Its influence is like a laser beam on the U.S., and in particular, evangelicals. [1:18:22] It's hitting them super, super hard. [1:18:26] Well, I look today at the stats. [1:18:30] It's 57% of American evangelicals support Israel. [1:18:37] Last year, this time, it was 68%. [1:18:41] Wow. [1:18:41] So that is a huge drop in support among American evangelicals. [1:18:49] They are five percentage, excuse me, eight percentage points away from even losing evangelicals. [1:18:57] What that means is for Israel, this is a literal existential crisis. [1:19:04] It's existential. [1:19:06] If they lose evangelicals, they lose America. [1:19:10] If they lose America, we might as well unplug the Iron Dome and ring the Arab dinner bell because there is nothing in the world that can hold that back. [1:19:21] Nothing. [1:19:23] The thought that Israel could repel the Arab world by themselves is such ridiculous fiction. [1:19:34] They absolutely wouldn't stand a chance. [1:19:38] I think they can hold them off for maybe days, but not much longer than that. [1:19:47] So they are desperate and they will do anything that they can. [1:19:52] They'll do anything they have to do to maintain that level of support in the United States because it is potentially an extinction level event if they lose that support. [1:20:05] Okay. Now, at the end of the day, it wouldn't be that big of a deal because Israelis have a higher percentage of passports than almost any nation on earth. [1:20:18] 50% of the people who migrate to Israel then immigrate out. [1:20:25] The Jews that move there don't even like living there. [1:20:28] Like, almost all of them have a different nation they could go to. [1:20:32] The idea that Israel is a sanctuary for Jews is one of those big lies that we have to debunk. [1:20:42] All right? [1:20:43] Like, there's never been a Jew in the United States who's moved to Israel for sanctuary. [1:20:51] But Israel is, I mean, look at the news. [1:20:54] It is one of the least safe places for Jews in the world. [1:20:58] Actually. [1:20:59] They're so much better off. [1:21:00] I was going to say, I can think of one. I can think of one. And that was Meyer Lansky, the Jewish gangster founder of the National Crime Syndicate Murder Incorporated. He fled the feds. He was in Florida. [1:21:18] There have been quite a few pedophiles who have fled to Israel. [1:21:22] And this is funny because I had not heard that story about the airlift. [1:21:27] The story that I heard, which is obviously a limited hangout, was that Nixon wanted Meyer Lansky back in the country to be tried for his crimes. [1:21:40] And that Golda Meir promised to send him back. [1:21:45] and that that was what got Nixon to do the airlift. [1:21:49] And that never really made sense to me. [1:21:52] I was like, it is such an outsized favor. [1:21:57] And so it's funny because Lansky did come back. [1:21:59] Golda Meir did send Lansky back. [1:22:01] But then when his cases went before the court, [1:22:04] it all got thrown out. [1:22:07] No evidence, no witnesses. [1:22:10] He watched that three. [1:22:11] So that is called the Samson, [1:22:12] that's called the Samson protocols. [1:22:14] I've written about that, but it was Seymour Hirsch [1:22:17] wrote the book on it. [1:22:19] And I'm a big fan of Hirsch. [1:22:23] And he's told us so many, [1:22:24] he's been the essential source on so many different things. [1:22:27] And the last one was who blew up the Nord Stream pipeline. [1:22:31] So I really have a tendency to believe what he says [1:22:35] because it's almost always right. [1:22:37] But anyways, that being the case, [1:22:40] because it's existential, [1:22:41] They will lie, cheat, or kill whoever they have to kill in order to maintain that level of support. [1:22:49] That's why in something like the Charlie Kirk assassination, when, you know, my mind did not immediately go to Israel. [1:22:58] I wasn't thinking Israel within the first few days. [1:23:01] But when you find out that he had told his friends and companions, his closest friends, who also were turning into his enemies because they were all in bed with Israel, Rob McCoy and those guys, that he had officially left the Israeli cause, the pro-Israel cause. [1:23:27] it's not out of the question that he would be assassinated because if there was anyone that [1:23:33] could make that eight percentage points drop that'd be charlie kirk someone like charlie kirk [1:23:39] saying i no longer support israel for i even if it wasn't that broad it's like i'm no longer [1:23:46] for more military aid to israel um that would have definitely i think the sway [1:23:55] necessary to move the needle that much, because the needle doesn't have to be moved much further [1:24:01] for them to lose it all. And so considering that he sent Netanyahu a letter stating, [1:24:10] here's why I'm about ready to leave the pro-Israel cause. Here's why you're losing people. Here's [1:24:15] why you're losing me. The chance that he was not being surveilled by Mossad is zero. [1:24:25] I guarantee you. [1:24:27] I mean, there's no one familiar with Mossad and how they operate that thinks that after that letter to Netanyahu, they would not be surveilling him. [1:24:35] He's sending these texts to Candace Owens about how frustrated he is with Israel and with his friends, who are most of them Israel influencers, about leaving the pro-Israel cause. [1:24:52] I'm not saying that they killed him. [1:24:53] I'm saying that you could see why they would certainly have motive. [1:24:57] So your answer is, you know, are people waking up? [1:25:02] They are because of those little things like that, where it might be the USS Liberty. [1:25:08] It might be the Levon affair that people don't know about. [1:25:12] But when they hear, for example, that in 1960 or 1957, or maybe it was 63, I get my dates [1:25:22] confused in the levon affair 57 it was um israel got caught trying to do a false flag to murder [1:25:31] american and british citizens in egypt to get us to fight their enemies for them and then in 2005 [1:25:39] after denying it all those years they gave medals of honor to the you know their terrorist [1:25:49] soldiers, the terrorists they hired to pull off this stunt, they gave them medals for their [1:25:57] bravery, admitting it, essentially. Then you've got Americans, as soon as they can swallow that [1:26:04] first truth nugget, they go, okay, maybe that's not that crazy. When you learn about the Gulf of [1:26:12] talking, doesn't that make even the most conspiratorial adverse person go, okay, maybe [1:26:21] I shouldn't trust my government and give them the benefit of the doubt, right? And so when you learn [1:26:28] that stuff, you get your foot in the door of truth, so to speak, with these people. And then [1:26:37] it begins to open their eyes. That's what's happening. It's the internet age. It's people [1:26:43] have access to truth that they have not always had. People are also becoming more savvy when it [1:26:51] comes to propaganda. You know, it wasn't but a couple years ago that if someone went to Wikipedia [1:26:59] and they see the USS Liberty is called a conspiracy theory, they believe it. [1:27:03] but a lot's changed in a few years. [1:27:06] And most of what changed it was COVID where on account of what happened with [1:27:12] COVID, [1:27:13] Americans are way more skeptical of the official narrative. [1:27:16] Now, [1:27:17] praise God, [1:27:18] that's a good thing. [1:27:19] And that skepticism is carried on to foreign policy. [1:27:22] It's carried on to what people think about Israel. [1:27:25] And the fact is once the truth gets out, [1:27:29] you can never put it back. [1:27:31] And, [1:27:32] and the truth is getting out. [1:27:33] So that's why you're seeing Israel try to foster that relationship with India. They need some kind of superpower, someone with a lot of people and a lot of money and a big military. And we laugh at India because it's India, but they're number four, right? When it comes to a military, they are number four and it's better than nothing. [1:27:54] So they're looking for a backup, but they will lose control over the U.S. kicking and screaming, and they will fight every bit of the way, making them give up power. [1:28:09] but I think I think we're seeing uh it happen I I really do and it it it does feel pretty hopeless [1:28:17] when you see how they took out Thomas Massey you know they he was one of the more popular [1:28:22] congressmen in the house and you've got Miriam Adelson you get one rich Jewish lady and she can [1:28:31] take out the most one of the most popular congressmen in the house but if there were two [1:28:37] or three or four of them, that's a big diversion of money. [1:28:42] You know what I mean? [1:28:43] Like the more targets they are, the harder it is to hit them. [1:28:48] So if there's one David Riley in Coeur d'Alene, what if there were two? [1:28:54] What if there were three? [1:28:56] And then all of a sudden they can't hit each of you that hard. [1:29:01] And so there's David and there's JD and there's other people out there online. [1:29:05] They can't stop them all. [1:29:07] If it was just Candace, they could stop her. [1:29:09] But it's Candace. [1:29:10] It's Tucker. [1:29:12] It's Sean. [1:29:12] It's Megan. [1:29:13] It's all these influencers. [1:29:15] It's even Piers Morgan. [1:29:16] Like, people are just saying enough with your crap. [1:29:19] Yeah. [1:29:19] And then they lose that influence. [1:29:22] Yeah. [1:29:23] No, I think you're right about that. [1:29:24] And it's going to be crazy. [1:29:25] People need to be aware that this is happening. [1:29:29] This is happening. [1:29:29] And as Israel gets back further and further into a corner, [1:29:34] They will act more and more erratic, irrationally, and they will become more dangerous. [1:29:41] And so that is important for people to know. [1:29:43] And I guess just, you know, I know that you're tight on time here, but just kind of in closing, [1:29:47] it is interesting, this cozying up of Israel to India. [1:29:52] And then all of a sudden, here's this Indian influencer, Dinesh D'Souza. [1:29:58] We haven't really had a chance to talk about this. [1:30:00] I stayed up late last night watching the debate and I was, I was blown away at how loud and angry [1:30:06] he got. I mean, he was yelling at you. He did not keep his cool at all. And frankly, he just sounded [1:30:14] like a broken record. It's like, you'd make a point about all of the gifts and blessings of God [1:30:20] that are promised to the seed of Abraham, which is Christ, which is his church. And he discards [1:30:28] everything and all he cares about is the land it's incredible uh if you haven't watched it go [1:30:33] watch go watch his interview but uh what are your thoughts about uh the exchange [1:30:38] oh and i lost your uh i lost your audio it's okay we'll we'll clip it there we go boom i was trying [1:30:49] to find a way to say this in the debate and i couldn't think of a tactful or diplomatic way [1:30:54] to say it, but there's this caricature of Jews in the Middle Ages as goblins, essentially [1:31:00] Gollum in the ring. [1:31:02] And when you read some literature from Europe in that era, and it's, it actually, they are [1:31:08] allegorical of Jews, the goblin thing. [1:31:11] They're saying it without saying it. [1:31:13] Rumpelstiltskin. [1:31:15] Yeah. [1:31:16] So, you know, Levin, Levin's the lump. [1:31:18] And that's why I said Nish had this Jewish mindset, because with the land that he kept coming back to over and over again, it was like Gollum and his precious and the ring. [1:31:33] It's like this Jew hoarding a trunk of gold, like, this is mine. [1:31:38] You can't have the land. [1:31:40] And you're like, you're going to go to hell. [1:31:42] And you're worried about land. [1:31:44] Let it go. [1:31:45] Like, what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? [1:31:49] And you're worried about land? [1:31:52] Are you kidding me? [1:31:53] It's not even good land, right? [1:31:56] It's not worth anything. [1:31:57] There's no natural resources. [1:31:59] There's no water. [1:32:01] It's a desert. [1:32:02] It is legitimately some of the most worthless land on earth. [1:32:10] Siberia is infinitely more valuable than the land under Israel. [1:32:16] And so it just shows you that a lot of times idolaters, [1:32:21] they are so blinded by idolatry, [1:32:25] they don't realize that their idol is really, it's broke. [1:32:28] It's poor, it's stupid, it's blind, it's deaf, it's dumb. [1:32:31] It's not worth anything. [1:32:32] You're fighting over this. [1:32:34] You can't even grow tomatoes. [1:32:36] What are you doing? [1:32:37] so after the debate a lot of people kind of turned on Dinesh dispensationalists like well he is he's [1:32:46] stupid you should pick a better debater next time he doesn't know his scripture at all you know he's [1:32:52] an amateur why did you pick Dinesh to debate of course I didn't pick him at all they asked me [1:32:57] but I'm trying to explain to the disbies it's not that he's a bad debater he's been known as a good [1:33:05] debater. He's this smart, intelligent guy. That's his thing. That's why he's famous. He's smart. [1:33:11] He's an intellectual, whatever. I'm not saying he's not. Not even a smart person can defend a [1:33:21] dumb idea. I would have ripped apart any dispensationalist, any, in that debate. It's [1:33:29] not because I'm smart. I raise chickens. I'm a hillbilly. I don't know anything. I don't even [1:33:34] know I was in the debate. I'm not the smartest or the brightest guy. It's that it's a bad idea. [1:33:41] And historically, like the one thing I do know about is polemics and the history of cults. [1:33:47] You know, I'm polemic Santa. I know all that stuff. I've written about it for 15 years. And [1:33:52] I'll tell you that fantastically bad ideas in a religious context, cults and sub-Christian [1:33:59] teaching, sub-Christian sects, they have a 200 to 230 year shelf life. They do not last but more [1:34:08] than 230 years. I can give you a list as long as my arm of false teachings that lasted about [1:34:17] two centuries and then they fizzled out. The reason why they take time is because these new ideas [1:34:23] take time for people to wrestle through the text and then also to find out the practical application [1:34:30] of the teaching, which is bound to be eventually negative. It leads to worse heresies. [1:34:38] It takes multiple generations to determine that the trajectory of that bad teaching is leading [1:34:48] further and further away from the truth. [1:34:50] It's like a plumb line. [1:34:52] You get two inches away from where the plumb line starts, it still looks straight. [1:34:56] But you get a mile down the road and it's way off. [1:35:00] So time has to pass before we have time to look at that and go, nope, dispensationalism [1:35:05] is retarded, it turns out, because we see what it leads to now. [1:35:10] Okay, so we are approaching the end date on dispensationalism. [1:35:18] It is a fantastically bad idea. [1:35:21] It's unscriptural. [1:35:22] It's not defendable. [1:35:24] It's schizophrenic. [1:35:26] It's two-faced. [1:35:27] It's contradictory. [1:35:30] It will not last. [1:35:32] And you can have someone that makes it look borderline respectable, [1:35:36] like Dr. John MacArthur, [1:35:39] but his kids are going to fall further from the, you know, [1:35:42] his kids as nuts are going to fall further from the tree. [1:35:47] and his great grandkids are going to be Hebrew roots, Judaizers that are trying to go back to [1:35:53] Judaism. Its trajectory is toxic. And so the difference between John Hagee and John MacArthur [1:36:01] is very small at the end of the day. And Christians are going to see the trivialness of it. And I [1:36:11] think that there will no doubt be skepticism when people hear me say that, oh, you think it's just [1:36:16] going to die out. I do. Because for all the reasons I've laid out, it's unbiblical. And I can [1:36:24] tell you some pretty notable heresies that we now look at and say, how could anyone have believed [1:36:32] those things? But at the time, in the day, there were a lot of people who believed those things. [1:36:39] It was even the majority view in some geographical regions, but eventually it was put through the sieve of time. It's been sifted out and found to be lacking. And dispensational Zionism doesn't have much longer, I don't think. [1:36:58] No, and especially not with your work and what you've been doing. Of course, you've got a book [1:37:04] out. I think you were just getting ready to publish this the last time you've been on the [1:37:08] show. It's been about six months, and here it is, The Hyphenated Heresy, Judeo-Christianity. [1:37:14] This is a book that you wrote together with Joel Webin over at NXR Studios. And I've been [1:37:21] recommending it to people. People have been reading it, hopefully. I don't know. Did it hit [1:37:26] number one in the religious topics? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, number one on Amazon, [1:37:33] for whatever that's worth. It was number one for about nine weeks. Wow. It was number one [1:37:38] for, I think, about six weeks in two different categories, both history and religion. [1:37:43] So it did very well. I have upcoming for release, A Century of Schofield. So it will be dealing [1:37:52] specifically with Darby and Schofield. [1:37:55] It will cover 100 years from Darby [1:37:57] to the Balfour Declaration. [1:37:59] Wow. [1:37:59] So I'm already releasing that [1:38:02] to the patron supporters who helped fund it. [1:38:06] I'm releasing every two weeks on my Buy Me Coffee page. [1:38:11] If you're listening and you didn't support it, [1:38:14] you're too late for that, [1:38:15] but it will be released in October. [1:38:19] And I would really encourage you to get that [1:38:21] to understand how dispensationalism developed as an idea and as a doctrine. [1:38:28] Yeah. [1:38:28] And, of course, you've also got, what is this, A Rubbish Heap of Harlots, which is the republishing [1:38:35] of the works of St. John Chrysostom. [1:38:37] You can follow J.D. on his X account at LostMyHats. [1:38:43] Of course, his website, insight2insight.substack.com. [1:38:49] of, and I think you run Protestia as well. That's your thing. No, I founded Protestia. I no longer, [1:38:57] yeah, I'm no longer with Protestia. Well, God bless those guys, but I don't do polemics, uh, [1:39:02] so much anymore. Got it. And then I think you are, uh, are you involved with the Christ is King [1:39:08] conference that's coming up that Joel's doing? I don't see your face up. Maybe not. Okay. No, [1:39:14] No, I'm not. I'm considering going, but I'm not speaking or anything like that. [1:39:20] No, maybe we'll get to meat in the flesh. I've been thinking about going, too. Let's see. Joel, [1:39:23] send me some tickets. I'd love to come out. But yeah, no, that's all been great. And of course, [1:39:29] you've got a lot of really great stuff over at Right Response. I was watching this just before [1:39:33] you came on. Can you call a Catholic a Christian? And it's like, I love what you've been doing [1:39:38] and what Joel has been doing with this idea of like creedal Christianity, [1:39:44] you know, going by like, well, do you affirm the Nicene Creed? [1:39:47] Do you affirm, you know, these types of, and it's like, [1:39:49] I feel like it kind of helps untie that knot, that, you know, [1:39:53] spaghetti of who is a Christian, who is, [1:39:56] and it kind of gives you these measuring sticks, I guess, [1:40:00] that you can kind of like measure up to and be like, well, if you, [1:40:03] if you believe this and this and this, well, yeah, you're a Christian. [1:40:06] So I like it. I think it's cool. [1:40:08] Yeah, on that particular issue, just to clarify, it's not as though we Protestants, Joel and myself, are changing our definition of, say, justification or generation, right? [1:40:23] Like, we're still going to be on the sola, you know, fide side of salvation. [1:40:28] But I think it's pretty stupid that when I was defending Carrie Prigine Bowler, I was being yelled at by Protestants for telling Eric Metaxas, hey, you're attacking a Christian on behalf of Jews. [1:40:46] You're cursing those who bless Christ and blessing those who curse Christ. [1:40:50] and I'm having people yell at me going, you can't call her a Christian because she's not, [1:40:55] you know, in the Protestant mindset of what salvation is and justification and regeneration, [1:41:03] not in that club. And we're saying, no, we can say that she is a Christian. That's not a statement [1:41:10] of soteriology, but it's a statement of identification because in Antioch, in the book [1:41:16] of Acts, it was the outsiders looking in that came up with that term Christian. And they're [1:41:23] saying they're a Christian because that's how they identify with that Jesus person. [1:41:27] And so my argument has been, that's how we're using this term. And here's the thing, David, [1:41:34] the people that complain over stuff like that are never the ones out there trying to make a [1:41:39] difference in this world whatsoever. They're having arguments about how many angels can dance [1:41:45] on the head of a pen. [1:41:47] Yeah. [1:41:48] Well, thank you again [1:41:49] for taking the time, [1:41:51] for being so generous with it. [1:41:52] It was great to have you. [1:41:53] We'll have you back again [1:41:54] in the future, I'm sure. [1:41:55] God bless and thanks again. [1:41:59] Awesome. [1:42:00] All right, we're out. [1:42:01] Thank you. [1:42:02] We are out. [1:42:03] Yeah. [1:42:04] Keep your head down. [1:42:05] Those people might try to hurt you. [1:42:07] Oh, I think. [1:42:08] Or get you to hurt them. [1:42:09] That's, yep. [1:42:09] I think that's, [1:42:10] they've been trying to provoke me [1:42:12] for a while. [1:42:13] And, you know, [1:42:14] God doesn't send us trials [1:42:17] you know he gives us the grace to [1:42:19] to see our way through I think so [1:42:21] a lot of praying [1:42:22] a lot of you know leaning into [1:42:25] the forgive you know [1:42:26] I might not forgive him but maybe [1:42:29] God can find a way to forgive him in the ultimate [1:42:31] grand scheme of things you know [1:42:32] you know with praying the rosary [1:42:34] right you have these mysteries that [1:42:36] you pray and you meditate on and [1:42:38] when you meditate on the [1:42:40] crucifixion you're praying [1:42:43] for the grace to be able to forgive your enemies, you know? And so I do really [1:42:48] lean into that because otherwise I'd go nuts. So. Right. Yeah. And that might be what they want. [1:42:55] Yep. Yep. All right. God bless. See you, man. Bless you. Take care. Bye. [1:43:03] Well, that was absolutely amazing. 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