Interview · February 2, 2026

Episode 113 — Inside The Deep State: FBI Entrapment, Fed Ops, & Epstein’s Network w/Radix Verum

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In this explosive episode of The Backlash, we’re joined by independent journalist and documentary filmmaker Radix Verum, director of Kidnap and Kill: An FBI Terror Plot. Radix breaks down her in-depth investigation into the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping case and why the evidence points to FBI entrapment, federal informants, and manufactured terror operations designed to shape public perception.

We dig into the long history of fed ops, PATCON-style infiltration, and the disturbing pattern behind so-called “domestic terror” plots — asking whether these cases are stopped crimes… or staged ones.

The conversation then turns to the newly released Epstein files, examining how Jeffrey Epstein maintained connections to powerful figures long after his crimes were public, including attempts to ingratiate himself with individuals in Trump’s political orbit. We analyze emails, invite lists, and DOJ documents to separate verified facts from narrative spin, and ask why Epstein’s network proved so resilient — and so protected.

From FBI entrapment to elite blackmail networks, this episode pulls back the curtain on how power really operates behind the scenes — and why so many scandals never seem to lead to accountability.

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Backlash — Episode 113 Episode 113 — Inside The Deep State FBI Entrapment, Fed Ops, & Epstein s Network w Radix Verum Backlash — Episode 113 Episode 113 Inside The Deep State_ FBI Entrapment, Fed Ops, & Epstein_s Network w_Radix Verum Time Transcript 0:03:05 REBECCA: welcome to the backlash I am your host Rebecca Hargraves joined us always by Mr. Dave Riley how you doing Dave I'm doing good How are you Dave just started smoking tobacco somebody asked me if you were smoking weed on camera no 0:03:16 DAVE: No, no, no, no, we just for degenerates 0:03:18 REBECCA: And he's gone like way too hard in typical Dave fashion into a hobby. Well, no, it's not just that though 0:03:24 DAVE: I've like I've only used like six of these in the past week Oh good. I'm like totally getting away from the fake nicotine stuff combustible nicotine is where the hell 0:03:35 That's you know Thank you for joining us 0:03:39 REBECCA: You can find us on X at real backlash our website the backlash net support us on subscribe star comm slash the backlash patreon comm slash the Backlash send your super chats that will be red live right here in my youtube channel or to the backlash net slash super chat or to our YouTube channel at real Backlash follow us on rumble That is backlash podcast find all of our links on the backlash net slash subscribe follow us on Instagram Tiktok because we know what's up with the kids We know what's up. Thanks so much for joining us today Thank you. Oh D gg supply if you want to go blanky mode gorilla mode there are your people above time coffee roasters That is small batch handcrafted white positive Coffee Idaho tallow skincare without endocrine disruptors and a low pill publishers of white positive Literature without further ado 0:04:32 REBECCA: Christina radix, how are you doing? I'm so pleased to be talking to you again It's been I think over a year since we last spoke but she is an independent Journalist currently directing a producing kidnap and kill an FBI terror plot her first documentary And she is still crowdfunding for this because I believe you're in the editing phase You still need support so if you can tell people where to find you will make sure to put those links below after the show That would be a great place to start 0:05:00 RADIX: Yes, our website which you can see there is just the letter K and K film Com you know instead of kidnapping kill calm because that would be a little weird You can find ways to support the documentary you can also find links to write to the guys I've got their mailing addresses. I know they love receiving letters, too That's always encouraging for them 0:05:29 REBECCA: So what inspired you for those of you that aren't familiar with your work Please refer to the previous episode that I did on my channel before we started the backlash where I interviewed radix and she went really in-depth About the process that she was going through what she knew about the victims of this of this hoax But let's start with what inspired you to do a deep dive into the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping Backlash — Episode 113 0:05:55 RADIX: specifically Well, I at the time that that the arrest happened. I had already been a researching Pat Kahn the FBI is sort of like co-intel pro aimed at right-wing Christians in the 90s and so you think of things like Ruby Ridge Waco, Oklahoma City I was looking into those things and then when the Whitmer thing happened that just to me was like, oh Yeah, like of course, they're still doing Pat Kahn and that is not as well known as co-intel pro We always see the leftist talking about how the FBI Targeted them and it was just them and we hear about co-intel pro a lot operation chaos, but very little about Pat Kahn and so I started covering the story and of course when the discovery started coming in it came out how many informants the FBI used to Frame these men it was a network of 12 informants to Undercover agents and so that kind of confirmed it to me even more and then watching the first federal trial play out That ending in two men being acquitted and then a mistrial on Adam and Barry the men they framed as ringleaders I reached out to Brandon one of the men that was acquitted just to interview him for my channel and because I wanted to talk to him and show him the articles I've been writing how I've been covering his story and From talking to him I realized there was so much that We didn't know that you wouldn't have known if you'd read every single court filing you went through all the discovery You listened in to the hearing every single day for two weeks. You wouldn't have known that information and so I just kind of felt like okay, you know, I want to tell this story in order to do that We're gonna have to make a documentary Because it's just so much information and so that was how I got into it 0:08:02 REBECCA: So without going through the whole thing again because we've done that on my channel Please go back and watch that video. It was very important What do you see is the most compelling evidence the single most compelling evidence of FBI involvement or entrapment in the Whitmer plot? 0:08:15 I 0:08:16 Don't even know that you can point to just one right? It's like the entire 0:08:21 RADIX: Every aspect of it is the FBI doing it Know There it's not really one thing you could point out I guess what you would what you could say Zooming out looking at the bigger picture was the fact that the FBI had infiltrated the Midwest militia scene in 2018 that they had put their informants and leadership positions of these groups that they Manufactured a three percenter national militia group from whole cloth and put a pedophile informant In charge of the Wisconsin chapter halfway through the Whitmer investigation 0:08:59 REBECCA: He announces that he has been made the national commander and other informants were posing as heads of state chapters for the FBI's National three percent for militia the fact that the FBI was administering Facebook pages for these militia groups across the Midwest 0:09:17 RADIX: Is a bit concerning the fact that they had a database of Americans based on Things people were saying online putting them into this database giving informants access to the database of Americans all of these things are entirely inappropriate and 0:09:34 Disturbing and just how they set the entire thing up and were able to not only arrest 0:09:41 RADIX: 14 men But five of them are still in prison right now two are at Florence Backlash — Episode 113 supermax 0:09:49 REBECCA: Right, and can you talk a little bit about where we are right now in the process? We spoke a little bit and you said that a Supreme Court appeal has been denied What standing are these especially these two in supermax? 0:10:02 RADIX: Are they in right now? Yeah, so Just to explain there were four trials associated with the Whitmer case There was the first federal trial the retrial of Adam and Barry in which they were convicted There was a lot of inappropriate things that happened at that that were worse than the first time where they weren't allowed to introduce evidence Then we had the Jackson County the first state trial then the Antrim County case 0:10:27 So that's four trials two federal two separate state trials and out of that 0:10:33 Five men in total were acquitted by two separate juries So two from the first federal trial and then the last three from Antrim County So unfortunately five were wrongfully convicted Adam and Barry are the ones from the federal case. So we have three state guys Joe Morrison Paul Beller and Pete Musico that are currently Imprisoned in Michigan that are appealing through the Michigan 0:11:01 Right now it's court of appeals, but it will probably go to the Michigan Supreme Court 0:11:06 Unfortunately, a lot of those judges were appointed by Whitmer. So there's not much hope for the state guys for their appeals 0:11:12 For Adam and Barry they lost their first appeal at the Sixth Circuit 0:11:18 So that was kind of it for them The only other thing they could do was petition the Supreme Court for a writ of certiori and the Supreme Court has just denied 0:11:28 that petition so they are completely Exhausted for the federal appeals and so right now Adam has 16 and a half years Barry has 19 and a half years and this is a foreign super max these men didn't do anything 0:11:45 RADIX: There was no violence The only person who was violent in the case was actually the FBI agent who tried to kill his wife, right? 0:11:56 REBECCA: And so that's crazy and so they could be there for over a decade in super max prison 0:12:03 RADIX: the only recourse these men have now is to Get a presidential pardon and so we are really hoping that the Trump administration is serious about what they say for helping Victims of weaponization and that they pardon these men and send them home to their families 0:12:22 REBECCA: Is there any evidence that this is on the Trump radar? 0:12:26 RADIX: Yes, so Several things the Trump's Harden attorney well one of them Ed Martin did mention in an interview with Briana Morello Months ago that this was something that they were looking into I know that they have their pardon petitions in and The media asked Trump about it He made a comment to the fact the effect that like it looks like those guys were railroaded We're looking at it and so that's kind of like where we're at right now That is apparently on their radar The pardon attorney has talked about it the president has talked about it. He's indicated He kind of knows that these men were Railroaded so I'm praying That these these guys are pardoned and sent home to their families berries got three daughters who need him and it's just Outrageous it's egregious especially when Backlash — Episode 113 we look at what's happening in Minneapolis, right? Where these leftist groups can organize? They can attempt to impede law enforcement officers in the middle of an operation. They can talk about their plans to literally like stop a federal law enforcement operation Interfere with it and they're not charged the way the Whitmer guys were for conspiring to do something 0:13:52 REBECCA: They're not charged with gang membership like the Whitmer guys were charged with and so you just see here like if you are you know a 0:14:03 RADIX: Libertarian or right wing guy That's pro to a you know heaven forbid during the lockdowns you want to train together and talk crap You know you go to jail on on all of these trumped up charges You've got the state and the feds coming after you but if you're a leftist You can do basically whatever you want You can even talk about it out in the open and there's gonna be no conspiracy charges no gang membership charges nothing 0:14:32 REBECCA: It's ridiculous. It's it should make everybody's blood boil the injustice of the situation But before we talk about Epstein, can you tell us if you've got a release date? And what the average individual can do to try to help these guys I know that their appeals are exhausted and it's looking it's looking bleak if you have to rely on the whims of Trump I think the situation is bleak But is there anything that that we can do as average citizens? And if you could tell us about a release date, that would be great 0:15:01 RADIX: You can help get the word out You know, I think that January 6th kind of took precedence right of people talking about Victims of like the FBI or weaponization Obviously, there were a lot more J6ers and those individuals have been pardoned They still have a lot to do to rebuild their lives, but the Whitmer case was kind of just completely Forgotten it was like there's nobody really speaking up for these men trying to get justice for them So, you know continuing to put their names out there and to say hey You know, we still need justice for these five guys something needs to be done. That is helpful Sharing links to our trailer is helpful 0:15:46 REBECCA: Just supporting the project as far as the release date very hard to say because we don't have the Financing right that like 0:15:57 RADIX: Anybody else would get for a project of what we're trying to do where we're trying to kind of compete with HBO Netflix quality high production level It's three of us working on it and we all have families kids other jobs So we kind of have to work on it as we have time, but also it costs a lot of money I have monthly costs associated with the Whitmer 0:16:23 REBECCA: Documentary just to have our website our storage for the massive amounts of footage and documents that we have 0:16:32 RADIX: So we're we're editing it right now. We're working on that I hate trying to give a date because 0:16:40 REBECCA: Something will probably happen and it it'll be delayed 0:16:44 RADIX: But we're we're hoping for May we want to kind of get this done by May It just requires Resources, you know, I'm not gonna get a grant from some NGO for my documentary Like there's no donor that's gonna step in and say hey, what do you need to get this done? Here's the the financing that you need So, you Backlash — Episode 113 know, it is very difficult and unfortunately, it's really hard to rely on Crowdfunding I've tried to do that and I was never able to meet even half of my goal That I needed to kind of complete it. So I've had to get creative and you know, I basically am paying for it myself at this point So that's that's the problem is that if we had the resources we could get it out much faster 0:17:35 REBECCA: We just don't so it takes longer for us to get it done and you know, we have I Wish we could get people that are on the right to be more interested in funding Projects like this to have a really high quality 0:17:51 RADIX: Well-made documentary about something like this you would think would be supported, but it's just not 0:17:58 REBECCA: So for the audience, please donate so that she can complete this product. I'm sure this is keeping you up at night Just knowing that they're in jail and that this case has lost interest and even on the right I'm not saying a lot of Interests in this case. So so please help these guys out go to kidnap and kill an FBI terror plot That is K and K film comm And donate as as much as you can because these guys just got railroaded and she's right. They didn't do anything There was no violence. Look at what the left gets away with and then these guys with kids They're going to spend a decade two decades in Maximum security prison. It's just it's just outrageous. It should make everybody super angry Do you want to talk about Epstein? I got so many questions 0:18:43 RADIX: Yeah, I'm always doing dogs and talking about Epstein I mean, I remember back in the day like 2017-2018-2019 a bunch of us were all online like anonymously researching Jeffrey Epstein and a lot of other things and we were called names 0:19:04 REBECCA: People were D platform. There were calls for censorship and lo and behold, you know, I know the indication is it's never Satisfying as I think it's going to be Because at the end of the day if you're vindicated on this you're like, yeah, but also the truth is really terrible So I can't exactly feel good about this, but let's start at the beginning So one of the things I can't wrap my head around is why they released especially this last Trunch of documents like why did they release it? I think it makes everybody look bad It shows that we he was connected to so many people. I found the letnik angle Particularly compelling. So so why do you think that they they did this? I know they did it on a Friday So that is is obvious because I thought it would just get buried But do you think that they just released so much stuff that they thought that we never could Sift through it. I mean, do they not understand the power of the internet? 0:20:00 RADIX: I think in a way Epstein has now become kind of like a spectacle 0:20:04 REBECCA: Yeah, I think that the way that they put this stuff out 0:20:08 RADIX: it is done to kind of maximize Anybody's idea of like what Epstein was really about what the main takeaways should be from that You can kind of find anything in those documents to support Whatever your idea. So you see the leftist, right? running around on Twitter saying that the entire right wing movement was seated by Jeffrey Epstein because he talked to moot the guy who created 4chan right before the pall board was created and and The failure of them to look at every other individual associated with Jeffrey Epstein other things He was talking about including the transformers situation is is like amusing but it is Backlash — Episode 113 That's how it is and so I part of me kind of thinks well It is going to keep people occupied and distracted and not looking at other things because they're going to be going through These emails and just looking for anything the other thing to this is a lot of information in there is is not verified like you've got reports that are coming in from like a public tip line anybody can do that anyone can make a Report or like file a complaint on the FBI website That doesn't necessarily make it true So the information has to be vetted and there's a lot of people who are like rushing online to 0:21:37 REBECCA: Make claims that they are presenting as factually correct that they have not taken the time to 0:21:44 RADIX: Verify right so part of me thinks that maybe it's kind of like to keep people distracted but then at the other side of it is like it is so bad for them, right like I still don't even see how distracting people really helps when now everybody knows What that all these people are friends we see how they're talking to each other they are Like laughing amongst themselves talking about how like income taxes are for the goyim and that like They have their tax for like how does this help them? 0:22:20 REBECCA: How does that benefit them the only thing that I can think of is that this is to obscure something considerably worse So they threw some meat at us to really hide The more grotesque Verified stuff and then they threw some stuff that was just so fantastical that you know it can't be true not that I would put cannibalizing ritualistic stuff I think it's possible. All right. I have all these claims. I read and I'm like maybe but like the stuff about George Bush when that stuff gets thrown in there it tends to muddy the waters and kind of create an air of Of why they should be discredited as a whole so I think there's a lot of that but what kind of Standards are you using to decide whether or not these claims against Trump specifically should be taken seriously? 0:23:10 RADIX: Well, first of all, I think that 0:23:13 REBECCA: What are the what's the real allegations, right? Where's the evidence for it? 0:23:20 RADIX: The problem with some of this stuff like I would say the Katie Johnson lawsuit 0:23:24 REBECCA: I'm sure you guys remember that from 2017 where allegations were made. There is no real way to 0:23:32 RADIX: Verify that that happened So it's an issue as far as like, how do you know for sure? I think the best way to kind of look at it is look at the emails right that Epstein was sending to other people where he was talking about Trump and how he was talking about him What does that reveal perhaps about the nature of their relationship? Because it doesn't appear to me that it was particularly friendly That's my read on it. I mean you look at him talking to Michael Wolf who wrote fire and fury in 2017 and There he's saying that Trump doesn't listen. So that makes him dangerous 0:24:17 REBECCA: Dangerous, okay. Well, what does that mean? Why would he be dangerous if you had for example? 0:24:25 RADIX: videos of him or pictures With would that not make him not danger Backlash — Episode 113 wouldn't that neutralize him as a somebody that you would see as dangerous I find that to be kind of strange 0:24:38 REBECCA: So my read on it is to going back to the history 0:24:44 RADIX: Look into organized crime. I think what we're dealing with is It's essentially the mafia and so like think of gangsters and how they operate 0:24:54 REBECCA: Right. All right. Yeah, absolutely. And I do think it's suspicious that Trump has so many advisors so many people close to him in the White House that are Majorly credibly implicated in these documents. I found the Lutnick claims to be particularly interesting. So in 2005 I heard this interview so I actually don't know where he said this but Lutnick said that he cut ties with Epstein in 2005 after Epstein was talking about like getting a good massage And there was some kind of sexual connotation Lutnik is all over these documents in direct communication and in social events with Epstein They have like 2012 emails and then they have emails in 2017 where they're because they were next door neighbors and their elite neighborhood They were discussing Opposing a construction problem near their homes talking about hanging out all sorts of stuff post 2005 where he made this this ridiculous claim. So I'm thinking like Why would Trump have all of these people that were implicated? So close to him There seems to be some element of like camaraderie or shared blackmail there There's this I feel like there's something there 0:26:10 RADIX: Yeah, well Howard Lutnick specifically I mean going back to 9-11 right who's Howard Lutnick He's canter Fitzgerald Was a business partner of Lucky Larry Silverstein Magically didn't show up to work on 9-11 to take his kid to school. His brother did die during 9-11 supposedly but this is somebody who ripped off the Families of Cantor Fitzgerald there were 650 I believe people who died from Cantor Fitzgerald in 9-11 There was a lawsuit against American Airlines. He took the settlement. He basically kept it for himself. So this is not a Good person a credible individual and it's like deeper than that not only was he Neighbors with Jeffrey Epstein like right next to each other at the New York property He got his property basically from Leslie Wexner and so did Jeffrey Epstein Leslie Wexner had Comet trust set up and they use that to purchase these properties and that's interesting just because of Comet ping pong like Trust Yeah, I mean to me it seems like these people like this are 0:27:35 REBECCA: unavoidable like it seems to permeate both sides of the spectrum 0:27:42 RADIX: At the highest levels of not just politics, but obviously finance the media In everywhere else. So, you know at a certain point. It's like can you even avoid? having these Individuals around you. How does this work? Who's even in charge like Jeffrey Epstein is laughing about the federal reserve in Emails with Steve Bannon where they're talking about how they use it as a tool. Yeah, and Kevin Warsh 0:28:09 REBECCA: Trump's federal reserve chair pick. He's on 2010 Epstein invite list, which you know I don't know if he was trying to entrap him or something like that But but he does appear there and Elon Musk who has famously now come out and said I never did anything I never never went to the island. He's all over here saying like can I come to the island? Can I 0:28:29 RADIX: St. James he's asking to go. He's obviously Knows what it's about Backlash — Episode 113 because he like specifies that and I don't want a relaxing island vacation 0:28:40 REBECCA: Like I want the wild party. Yeah. Yeah, so like really Perhaps he didn't do anything untoward, but it's because he wasn't really invited I mean who who has to invite themselves to the island, right? 0:28:55 RADIX: The other aspect to this right is Kimball Musk his brother the Texas rent restaurant here What was introduced to his wife? By Jeffrey Epstein like Epstein was like a matchmaker in set up Kimball with his current wife So that has been known for a while like that's not even new information And there was the private tour that Epstein was obviously given of SpaceX back in 2012 we've all seen the picture of Natalie or is it Nadia Marsinkova with the SpaceX shirt There's the picture of him in Gillain in which he claims he was photo bombed which is you know 0:29:41 REBECCA: It's possible that like he didn't really know her he was at this event and they just take a picture together 0:29:48 RADIX: Like that is possible, but when you look at the Issue of like his brother meeting his wife through Epstein I think that that's not credible anymore. And of course there was the Edge Foundation The Epstein was obviously at and so was Musk So, you know, I don't really buy I don't really buy his story there 0:30:11 REBECCA: I think perhaps the slow trickle of information and then inundating us with all of this information Was an attempt to control the narrative Based on the supposition that people are going to lose interest in the story and our other podcast co-host Cameron said that he keeps saying Like Epstein is is the story people are not going to forget about this But I think that people are short-sighted and they're kind of sick of the story I mean this has been happening for so long That I wonder if this is just their attempt to flood us with information and we won't be able to identify what is and is not credible So, how do you think that with Trump's there are thousands of references of him to him in in these in these emails? How do you think this is going to impact his public perception? Are people going to take this seriously because after Russia gate and all of these ridiculous claims that were made after him I I don't understand why he wouldn't just be like these are all one in the same That would be the good PR move if he's going to address it at all 0:31:10 RADIX: Yeah, I don't really know I I doubt it's going to affect anything because the way that we are the way the world is right now people have kind of Divided themselves up into teams and they don't really care What is happening if it's their side, you know, they will not look at or ignore Information if it causes them some kind of you know cognitive dissonance or conflict So I don't necessarily see that as being a big thing. Also, they've been you know, trying to Make the Epstein stuff about him specifically for years now 0:31:49 REBECCA: And they're dishonest in the way that they do it like they just totally ignore Bill Clinton and you know Bill Richardson and all these other Reed Hoffman like 0:32:02 RADIX: Democrat donors who are also implicated as well So I don't really I don't know 0:32:08 REBECCA: I don't really see it in facting anything that much like I don't think Backlash — Episode 113 they're gonna impeach anybody over this because How many people then would have to be impeached or fired? I mean, they're there's so many of them implicated, right? 0:32:26 RADIX: And I think that's kind of the problem 0:32:29 REBECCA: But if this word it heals a lot effectively this could this could bring down The entire bureaucratic structure, which I think would just be so wonderful, but it also is a barrier It's it prevents them from from really doing anything about it because everybody is implicated. I Can see you in the live chat 0:32:50 RADIX: You know their side the other side they go back and forth and Nothing is actually happening or changing At a structural level right with any of this nobody's getting arrested no co-conspirators have been arrested Leslie Wexner has not been indicted Len Dubin Eva Dubin none of these people are going to be Criminally investigated or criminally charged so at the end of the day I think they're putting it out there to kind of placate people and have people just arguing over this 0:33:25 REBECCA: Meanwhile, none of the people are going to be arrested who were involved in it and it is obviously 0:33:33 RADIX: bigger than child sex trafficking 0:33:37 REBECCA: It's obviously a espionage operation in Jeffrey Epstein's emails. You see him literally advising princes 0:33:47 RADIX: And like governments around the world all these high-profile people acting as sort of this go-between And I think that that is the the good takeaway from this is that now we can say for sure 0:34:02 REBECCA: We have proof to confirm things that we have been saying for a long time about these people 0:34:09 RADIX: But it's not going to really go anywhere. It's not going to change anything, you know 0:34:13 REBECCA: And just remember who is leading the FBI right now cash Patel who one of the first things 0:34:20 RADIX: He said when he was made director of the FBI was that Americans need to get serious and like prioritize Israel And you know prior to becoming the director of the FBI he was talking about Jeffrey Epstein 0:34:38 REBECCA: He said Epstein didn't kill himself so did Dan Boncino as soon as they got in there They changed their story, you know, they actually did interviews where they flat-out said he killed himself, you know 0:34:50 RADIX: And now and there were no co-conspirators Yeah, and of course, there's no no network no evidence that any of this was happening It just kind of is ridiculous So yeah, I don't I don't expect anything to actually come of this I don't think it's gonna change anything people are just gonna argue now for years like they were doing about The pizza gate stuff and they're not gonna come to any agreements. I don't think right 0:35:17 REBECCA: I mean we have to think what what is not present here? So we all know that he only one eight would it would be able to conduct this level of power on an international Government level I'm talking about Epstein if this was Fundamentally a blackmail operation, but what did we not see in these Backlash — Episode 113 documents? I didn't really see a lot of evidence of the kind of blackmail that would allow Epstein to amass That amount of power so something is missing here and that information we are never gonna get that's what they're hiding 0:35:50 RADIX: Yeah, of course, they're not going to put out any of the videos or any information about that But in the emails, I mean he does make some reference to Blackmail and he you know, there's in one of the emails He gives permission for somebody to kill somebody There are some things in there, but there's obviously a lot that is never going to come out What we have what has been released is like 0:36:23 REBECCA: Probably going to be it. Do you think he's still alive? I? 0:36:27 RADIX: Think it's quite possible that he is one of the other things that came out from this release was that the individual who made a post on 4chan ironically enough claiming to have worked at the MCC when Epstein was in there saying, you know 0:36:45 REBECCA: They brought up a wheelchair right before this happened and alluded to the fact that he thought they might have switched him out That individual has been identified as somebody who did in fact work at the MCC 0:36:56 RADIX: So that was not just somebody shitposting that was obviously somebody who worked there 0:37:01 REBECCA: So I think it lends some credence to the idea that maybe maybe they did do that 0:37:08 RADIX: And he also talks about Bill Barr who was head of the DOJ at the time that he supposedly Unalived himself 0:37:17 REBECCA: Bill Barr is mentioned in the emails and of course we know his father who worked at the Dalton school gave Jeffrey Epstein His first job as a math teacher 0:37:29 RADIX: It's so unreal Dave did you have any questions about this? I 0:37:34 DAVE: mean, I don't really have any questions about it, but it's He didn't get the power that he had from the blackmail stuff and and to go back a little bit like the Pat Khan stuff is 0:37:45 RADIX: deeply 0:37:46 DAVE: intertwined with the Epstein stuff because if you if you look at things like the octopus murders and The Iran contra deal That was all stuff that 0:37:56 RADIX: Epstein administered 0:37:57 DAVE: Which was all an outgrowth of operation underworld which started in the World War two where the OSS was partnering with Lucky Luchiano and Meyer Lansky the heads of the Jewish mafia to gain intelligence on Everything that was going on in Italy And so that kind of started this unholy alliance between the intelligence communities and The mafia and you had people like Louis Rosenstiel hanging out with J. Edgar Hoover at the Plaza Hotel Which Donald Trump eventually bought where they were all sucking each other off with? Cardinal what was the name Cardinal Francis Bellman? And you know, there's there's stuff coming to light and I'm getting shit on today, of course as always 0:38:43 RADIX: Why well? 0:38:46 DAVE: Epstein stayed in the Vatican for quite a period of time Oh, he was living with John Paul II in the Vatican according to his own Publicists and if you are Backlash — Episode 113 like looking at the thread here, you know, there's the photos of Epstein with John Paul II there are a lot of emails here between Epstein and Larry Summers About the Vatican Bank, which was used to wash all of the CIA's dirty money because the Vatican Bank is a 0:39:18 RADIX: Sovereign 0:39:19 DAVE: Institution in the way that the city of London or Washington DC is And so what happened was after World War two the Vatican was surrounded by communists because the good guys lost and The Pope pious the 12th was approached by the CIA For help which kicked off something called Operation Claudio Which was NATO and the CIA's operation to kind of thwart communism in Europe at the time there were operation Claudio was just what they called the operation in Italy, but there were These types of operations happening everywhere Poland Ukraine France And so with operation Claudio that intersects with Pat Kahn Because Richard Butler who was up here with the Aryan nations He was a CIA cultural attache that was finding and sourcing people to go train gorillas in places like Ukraine 0:40:13 REBECCA: And somebody made a Hollywood movie about this I would be like this is insane and it sounds crazy 0:40:20 DAVE: But this is this is what happened and so we have a mafia occupied government Jewish mafia and that's that's how this whole thing has been operating and You know it's it's insane to see all the people that are you know running cover for the Vatican instead of just owning it 0:40:43 RADIX: You know 0:40:44 DAVE: It's just incredible and I you know I did a show last week about like no strata and some of these documents of Vatican 2 They were written by a homosexual Jew named Gregory Baum and they don't want to admit that so anyway, yeah, it's It's all intertwined to me the other thing that's like super crazy about all this Epstein stuff is The way that they talk about the Goyim like I'm not gonna lie I almost crashed my car when I saw this one The Sultan wants to replace his bionic dick with the new Swiss version Once different surgeon Harry fish says you're joking. I hope Epstein says nope Goyim Mean it's fucking hysterical and of course if you look at the Google n-grams the The levels of noticing are off the charts 0:41:35 RADIX: People are googling the word Goyim 0:41:38 DAVE: Because that dude who has to Google that all over and the other thing that's really crazy that no one else is talking about is You know some of these exchanges Matt madras Virza. He was a cryptographer working at the MIT digital currency lab Was emailing Jeff Epstein about good places to find the Latin mass in Boston in an email titled for Steve So very very 0:42:02 RADIX: presumably 0:42:03 DAVE: Steve Bannon, I'm sure But but yeah, and there was another email here that is just fucking comical pardon my French Let me find it hold on 0:42:16 RADIX: Sorry people searching for That makes me furious. It's it's pretty funny. Damn it. Yeah, but if you're if you're googling go am then then you are so far behind You're so far behind us That but I guess it should be an encouraging Backlash — Episode 113 people are yeah, but there was this email here it is I found it 0:42:36 DAVE: So at my dinner table I asked why are the right wing guys so anti- semitic? 0:42:41 RADIX: One said 0:42:43 DAVE: Historically, we all know it's actually been the Jews behind the government's actually pulling the strings And I said like who and one pointed at me and they all started to roar with laughter me and One guy said how do you explain in only three days? There have been princes prime ministers and other ministers emissaries plus two presidents of world bodies 0:43:06 RADIX: guilty 0:43:07 DAVE: So funny wish you were here 0:43:09 RADIX: This this is and so with these Epstein files that are coming out 0:43:15 DAVE: You know you were mentioning that there are all of these like allegations of Trump doing things with little girls and you know 0:43:22 RADIX: He ran those pageants 0:43:24 DAVE: I'm sure that there's something going on there, but 0:43:27 RADIX: The distinction has to be drawn between 0:43:30 DAVE: The allegations that could be made by literally anybody like I could call the FBI and report somebody and that would show up in these things so the distinction between that and What Epstein is saying out of his own mouth in his own emails his correspondences with Peter teal with With Elon Musk that stuff is has way higher levels of credibility 0:43:54 RADIX: Then whatever else so and isn't this just the greatest example of Jewish hubris? 0:44:01 REBECCA: He's like I run the world 0:44:07 RADIX: Dude where's the Richard Spencer clip I mean 0:44:10 REBECCA: He just feels like he's ascended to some kind of godlike well he was he basically was 0:44:16 DAVE: You know he basically did rule the world and yeah, I mean it's People are fucking stupid Goyam aren't people he's right I mean like it's really hard to read these emails and and not be like yeah You know this guy's got a fucking point, you know like we've got all these low IQ anti-semiates running around talking about You know chemtrails and isn't that you know I'm sure that there is something to chemtrails But like is that really the most pressing issue? It's important of our you know, but yeah I mean we the people just get so distracted with all of this dumb irrelevant shit And you miss the forest for the for the trees. Yeah, yeah, this is Goyish behavior. We should not act like Goyam 0:44:55 REBECCA: We should well we we do I mean not me not us because because you're our guy Radix But we do act like Goyam all the time and we mentioned this earlier, but you've been you're an OG you're like us You've been around for a long time Watching people look at this story this massive international Jewish cabal That is laid out with tons of evidence this look at the story and be like How can you continue your fight for justice without just developing a feeling of apathy and wanting to Give up I mean you keep going you keep going even with the Whitmer thing You're like a dog with a bone and people don't care as much as Backlash — Episode 113 they should and you're gonna release this documentary if it kills you 0:45:43 RADIX: You know so like where do you find that? 0:45:45 REBECCA: How do you keep going in the face of so many stupid Goyam? I 0:45:49 RADIX: Think it's really important to not be so 0:45:56 REBECCA: Wrapped up into everything right because like you can spend all day doom scrolling and 0:46:03 RADIX: You know arguing with people online or just looking at the sheer idiocy of every other day It's a different story and then people forget about something five days later The to me I am very 0:46:18 REBECCA: Intentional about like how much I engage you have to sometimes unplug and this has been 0:46:25 RADIX: You know something I've learned over the years of like almost ten years 0:46:30 REBECCA: Maybe ten years now of being you know publicly on the internet is that I've watched many people 0:46:39 RADIX: Come and go right I've seen people Rise and then crash out 0:46:45 REBECCA: Literally because the internet makes people crazy and it makes people egotistical and There's a lot of like not good people in this space of you know I guess what a basil would call take sellers Yes, you have a lot of people that are attracted to that literally because of their narcissistic personalities and 0:47:08 RADIX: They enjoy like constant attention I am not one of those people. I very like carefully You know make sure I am taking enough time for my mental health and as a mom You know I think I just you know I like spending time with my family more than anything else and I think that has kind of kept me sane is that I don't I don't put all of my time into this 0:47:36 REBECCA: I work on projects that I'm passionate about things that matter to me and it might take me a longer time to get it out 0:47:43 RADIX: but I I think that you know, that's how I've kind of avoided some of the Insanity of what we see on the internet today and people that are put out there as Influencers so many of them turn out to be either You know their hucksters their grifters their narcissists 0:48:06 REBECCA: They've got a weird past their closeted homosexual. They're you know, you name it, right? 0:48:13 RADIX: That's kind of like what we're dealing with and so you have to navigate that and be aware I have a good understanding of like psychology and to just kind of you know, I stay in my lane 0:48:25 REBECCA: I do my thing. I don't try to put myself out there all the time I don't try to be an influencer if something matters to me 0:48:32 RADIX: I'll make a video about it if there's nothing I really want to say Hey, I might go a month without putting out a video and and you know, I'm not I Think that people kind of get the reason they forget about things and they act Stupid is because there's a drive to constantly comment on something or constantly Have an opinion about everything and 0:48:57 REBECCA: You know, it's taken me time as part of like a spiritual 0:49:02 RADIX: understanding of things that like Backlash — Episode 113 0:49:04 REBECCA: You don't have to have an opinion on everything or if you do you don't have to verbally say it like there's you know 0:49:11 RADIX: There is an aspect to silence that I think is important too for like maintaining humility and 0:49:20 REBECCA: Your mental health so that you can put your energy into things that matter and that's the other thing 0:49:28 RADIX: that I think where I differ is I Lot of people who are out there constantly putting themselves on the internet. They're not doing anything in real life They you know fire up a stream They'll talk into a camera and then that's it and For me like my work on the Whitmer case has gone You know beyond just journalism like I've actually gotten into my car and traveled and interviewed people in person And got their stories and you know recorded them in that that sense of making like an accurate historical record of things but I have also kind of stepped into the arena of advocacy advocating for the guys and like literally fighting to get Partens from them and having to engage With actual People in real life who can do real things whether that's lawyers Or people who are maybe in a position of power to help you like these are things that are boring that you don't get paid for but somebody has to do it and along the way 0:50:38 REBECCA: with the Whitmer thing specifically like these people have become like family to me and So I'm not I'm just the kind of person anyways. Maybe it's the Italian in me that I'm like a very loyal Um mobster person 0:50:54 RADIX: It's the German to half German half Italian I'm a very loyal person and if something matters to me I see it through and I'm trying to make sure it's done, right But that's kind of like I don't know how I guess I stay On to a topic and not let go and Epstein was one of the first things I was researching years ago I remember writing an article like in 2019 about this Ukrainian guy that he was get obviously getting children from and so, you know, you just have to Have to know what is important and what's not and be able to kind of like sift through the noise and Find the the important things 0:51:41 REBECCA: That matter and try to actually do something right not just talk about it endlessly but actually do something to maybe Help somebody, you know get people out of prison and that's a very hard thing to do once people have been convicted 0:51:56 RADIX: Getting them out is really difficult 0:51:58 REBECCA: And so that's kind of like my focus right now is just literally on getting this project done because I want the families to be able to watch 0:52:07 RADIX: This documentary I want the guys to know that it's out that their stories are out there You know, they've never had the chance to speak on their own They didn't most of them didn't testify at trial. They were told not to do that and they were given really bad legal advice 0:52:25 REBECCA: So, you know, you're doing amazing. I cannot wait to watch it 0:52:30 RADIX: It is overwhelming though. And so maybe maybe that's why I'm not like sucked into you know This constant like noise on the internet because I'm already overwhelmed enough as it is just with this one project 0:52:44 DAVE: Yeah, and especially to with like the Pat Khan stuff, I mean I have spent Backlash — Episode 113 Years going through the FBI declassified files trying to get to the bottom of things like the order or the area nations and It is such a twisted web That'll you know, even like not even looking at social media not even like literally just like going through declassified FBI files It's it's incredible. There is by the way, I want to point out What you know since we've been talking about Pat Khan, I do want to point people to Ken Silva JD cash. Oh, yeah, I don't know if you've ever talked with him But he's done some of the finest work when it comes to Demystifying Pat Khan. I think he did some work on the Whitmer case as well. He did I he's in my documentary 0:53:31 RADIX: I interviewed him specifically to talk about Pat Khan to talk about the Whitmer stuff. Of course he is He has Covered my documentary and he's given me a platform on headline when at any time I have any news about Whitmer I want to get anything out Ken is a fantastic researcher and I highly recommend people read his articles on Pat Khan because it is insane You think that you think you know You don't until you read this stuff You have no idea how how insane the government is how controlled things are the fact that they literally had a classified spy satellite spying on Elohim City Who they had like NSA CIA? Like you said, I ran Contra tied into that It's it's a crazy story and it really hasn't been told, you know, you look at like some of the things on These streaming platforms of like the the projects they've put out about like a Waco and it's it's all nonsense Like they never get into any of that information Like we were talking about and the serious Government fingerprints on everything or the fact that so many of these 0:54:51 REBECCA: Groups are created or led by the FBI like for example the American chapter of the order of nine angles the Temple of Blood run by Joshua Caleb Sutter an FBI informant since 0:55:06 RADIX: 2003 and the FBI is funding Martin at press and then you know, oh wow look at this 0:55:14 REBECCA: 764 stuff who could have seen that coming? I don't know you the FBI who like literally created it 0:55:23 RADIX: Right and then they'll go then they can now Surrested people like oh, you know, they've done something here. Look, they're foiling these plots that they're creating basically Yeah, it is 0:55:36 DAVE: I'm it is disturbing. I'm curious. Have you and we've got some super chats for you, too We've got a lot of questions for you But I was just kind of curious we've talked about it. We need to do it We need to do an episode about the Oklahoma City bombing and speaking of that. I was curious. Have you read? Dr. Wendy paintings stuff The specifically was an aberration in the heartland of the real and what what what is your what's your take on okc? 0:56:04 RADIX: Well, I think it was a federal operation That it comprised many things but obviously I don't believe Timothy McVeigh Herried that out. I think he was sheep dipped and I think there's a lot of questions about that the main question 0:56:22 REBECCA: I think that's very important is what happened to Kenneth Trent to do and getting justice for him I think there's questions about the area and Republican Army and the AR a and Whether that was literally put together by the government to rob banks to fund their Backlash — Episode 113 0:56:41 RADIX: operation 0:56:43 DAVE: And that's and that goes back to gladio not to you know get See once I start talking we were we were talking about this. We're both Italian so you know we can go off But that was the playbook that was the playbook of of the operation gladio In Italy what would happen is the CIA would finance right wing militias to go and rob Pornography stores and then they would give the money that they robbed and they would donate it to the Catholic Church And then the church would wash the money in the Vatican Bank and it seemed very similar to what was going on with Who was that guy he worked for like Lockheed Martin? Dr. William Luther Pierce right he had his Church of Cosmotheism The Aryan nations up here again another church You know with groups like the order that would go out rob pornography stores donated to a nonprofit wash the money And then it would come back and so it seems like there was a version of domestic gladio That was happening Yeah, the whole thing is still happening. It's still going on it's still it's still happening And it's very difficult to parse out who's a good guy. Who's a bad guy who's motivated. Oh, yeah, you know and why 0:57:54 RADIX: Holy shit, it's it's would you mind answering a few questions? I think we have some audience questions that came through Yeah, sure 0:58:02 DAVE: Let's see here 0:58:04 RADIX: And I just want to say by the way It is tragic that Jesse Trentadou has never gotten justice for his brother Kenneth who was murdered in Prison because most likely they must took him for Ryan Guthrie from the AR a and It he has been trying to get justice from the FBI There is a lawsuit that has been ongoing and pending since 2015 Trying to get documents some of the information that Jesse has gotten because he is a lawyer Is things like we've got information about the FBI sensitive informant program from him Wherein we learned that the FBI had recruited assets 0:58:49 REBECCA: In the news media there were actually people working for ABC NBC who were literally federal Informants and they also talk about in this sensitive informant program 0:59:02 RADIX: recruiting like clerks and People who work for judges and so it really makes you stop and think okay 0:59:10 REBECCA: We don't even have like a real justice system and I was a paralegal for ten years I like the way that it works is so corrupt and then you think to yourself like how can you have a trial Where there's allegations of FBI misconduct when potentially a judge or their clerk is a federal and an FBI paid asset It's insane. That's crazy 0:59:37 RADIX: And so yeah, we we need to get justice for Oklahoma City. We can't let that go either 0:59:43 REBECCA: There's there's been no accountability for that and it's been over 20 years And we can't of course let that happen with the Whitmer case which I I kind of just view is like a 0:59:55 RADIX: reverberation of Oklahoma City is just another Pat Khan Operation domestic radio, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, yeah 30 years by the way 30 years Backlash — Episode 113 1:00:07 DAVE: It's like something happened 1995 something happened like time stop covid and it's like a time warp I feel like I lost a decade there. I feel like most people do anyway 1:00:20 RADIX: Let's see. Let's see what we got Vlad sent ten dollars 1:00:24 DAVE: Is the guy that was in charge of the FBI shit still in the FBI the current admin should get rid of him So the I'm assuming that this is the guy in charge of the Whitmer kidnapping case. Is he still in the FBI? 1:00:39 RADIX: Well, there were three main handling agents Jason Chambers Hunrick Impola and Richard Trask Richard Trask was suspended when he tried to murder his wife And was removed from testifying at trial Jason Chambers, Hunrick Impola, they're still employed at the FBI and Unfortunately the guy who kind of was the head of the Detroit field office was a man named Steven Dentuono who kind of he kind of oversaw 1:01:14 REBECCA: But it was also being run from DC which he testified to in a closed- door setting in 2023 But Dentuono was one week after the Whitmer guys were arrested in October of 2020 They promoted him to be the assistant director of the DC field office 1:01:34 RADIX: So that he could oversee January 6 and another storming of the Capitol which they've tried ran in April so he left the FBI Dentuono after The Mar-a-Lago raid which he also participated in he became a consultant for KPMG I believe so I mean you could kind of say he was one of the main people in charge He left the FBI, but we still have Jason Chambers and Hunrick Impola at the FBI and they should have been fired a long time ago 1:02:07 DAVE: Meanwhile up here in court of land they're sacking our field agent for standing up for Patriot Front And you know they can they can get rid of anybody like that overnight, but you know and there was somebody else 1:02:18 RADIX: Was it involved with the wedge the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping? 1:02:21 DAVE: It might have been the guy that tried to kill his wife that was like going around the office with a bunch of dildos Did you remember about this? Sorry? I don't mean to be you know crass or whatever But I forget if that was the Whitmer kidnapping case or if that was no 1:02:34 RADIX: But it's it's funny though because I know exactly what you're talking about That was a guy from I think it may have been Las Vegas So he that information came out in a lawsuit Karen Veltrie filed She worked for the FBI where she made allegations of sexual 1:02:52 REBECCA: Harassment and misconduct and one of those was literally an agent who would get drunk and pass out in his FBI work Vehicle middle of the day and then one that was photographing himself with a rainbow color dildo in his office At his desk in sending these pictures to people 1:03:12 RADIX: So this is the caliber of your average FBI Agent Richard Trask 1:03:20 REBECCA: He tried to murder his wife after attending a swingers party in Kalamazoo 1:03:28 RADIX: Good day. Her tell 1:03:30 REBECCA: This is who the earth's sexual creditors and perverts That's who the average federal agent is at the FBI. So Trask was going to swingers parties, but it Backlash — Episode 113 wouldn't be surprising to me if he was running around with dildos, too 1:03:49 DAVE: Yeah, you know, and that's still one of the this is one of the the proudest moments I wrote a resolution that was passed by the Idaho GOP 1:04:00 RADIX: unanimously 1:04:01 DAVE: calling for the abolition of the FBI and it passed and of course nothing has happened nothing nothing ever changes 1:04:12 RADIX: But we did get a patent there was I'll tell you right 1:04:15 DAVE: Radix radix, I don't know how to say this we just recently in the Idaho GOP recently passed a resolution calling for Lawn Haroochee to be Prosecuted for the murder of Vicki and Sammy Weaver And calling for a full pardon For Randy Weaver, of course that whole thing was a total setup, but they were like literally talking about giving Lawn Haroochee the firing squad down in Boise a couple weeks ago. So 1:04:42 RADIX: Nice pretty based pretty based Philly sent $200 Super chat, thank you very much Philly 1:04:52 DAVE: When and how did your guest Radix Varum get into filmmaking and could she talk about previous and future projects? 1:05:01 RADIX: Yeah, so the Whitmer case is what got me into filmmaking. I had no interest really in being a filmmaker prior to 1:05:11 REBECCA: Covering that story and wanting it to be told in a proper way and then I got interested in it after I started working on it 1:05:19 RADIX: So there I don't really have any prior Documentaries that I can point to what I will recommend on my YouTube channel is my My series that I've done examining Gladio PTK MK Ultra with mass shooters I've got a video on Colin Vine on James Holmes on Sung heecho from Virginia Tech and You know, I think that's it's been a very interesting Series there Sandy Hook to Adam Lanza. So I would recommend that I have a playlist for it. You can watch that but there's a lot of like really Ski-zo Kinds of different things which playlist would this be a dark nights right there? Okay, very good night 1:06:11 DAVE: And yeah, you are just at Radix Varum on YouTube make sure you definitely go and subscribe to her Let us see over here. We've got $50 big super chat Thank you over on entropy. Is it working? It's not I might have it muted or whatever Anyway, so Cal Chad sent $50. Enjoy the show as always just wanted to share support for Rebecca in her positions that she shared with the Beardson guy white Christian men do not need to waste time with some multi racial coalition BS because it's good for the brand The nightclub was Babylonian trash and Browns can support but only our people can save us. Sorry. Thank you 1:06:49 REBECCA: I did my best to do with you that interview 1:06:52 DAVE: Did my best. All right, I'm just gonna wrap up the super chats for now Reinhardt sent $25 There is no such thing as low IQ anti-semitism any excuse to hate them as a good one any excuse to destroy them as a good one We can focus on sheep wrangling after the fact and he also sent Another $25 we're gonna have a talk on Wednesday 1:07:11 RADIX: Thank You Reinhardt. I totally agree. Thank you for the big super chats 1:07:16 DAVE: Radix, please tell everybody where they can find you and I'll bring it up Backlash — Episode 113 on the screen to the best of my ability 1:07:24 RADIX: So I am on Twitter at not Radix not RADIX That's kind of mostly where I post things is on Twitter I have a sub stack, but I don't write articles as much as I used to because Most of my time now is spent, you know on the documentary But I do have articles up there about the Whitmer case if people want to read those It's just I think radix verum dot sub stack dot com I have a YouTube channel just radix verum and I have I'm on rumble But I don't I don't really use rumble a lot because I'm not like I don't live stream I just kind of like record and edit videos and put them out So I do have a rumble But it's just exactly like a mirror of my YouTube channel for the most part and then I have Of course the documentary website, but we also have a YouTube channel just for the documentary and that is I think it's K&K 1:08:30 REBECCA: Film official. I've got some videos up there. You can watch our trailer 1:08:35 RADIX: You can see our extended promo, which is about five minutes. It just kind of gives you a Look at kind of like what the film looks at and so I Highly recommend you subscribe to the documentary YouTube channel because when we have news of a release date That's gonna that information will go up there And we also have a documentary Twitter as well 1:09:03 REBECCA: I think it's just K&K film so you can follow the documentary Twitter to get updates on it as well Nice. Thank you so much for joining us. Always a pleasure to speak with you Please like and subscribe do not forget to donate to K&K film comm slash donate Please please please help her finish this very important Documentary help these guys get pardoned and I hope to speak with you soon 1:09:30 RADIX: Thank you. Thanks for having me on I appreciate it. Bye. Bye. Yeah, we'll be in touch. I appreciate the support 1:09:36 DAVE: Of course anytime. 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They actually take it out in the field They go rucking they do all kinds of stuff and I think Alex the owner of od gg supplies is gonna be doing a Seminar in the coming days with RTTL oh cool, there's a big online conference for RTTL coming up. I think And he will be participating in that and so I think that brings us To all of our contractually obliged mentions. Thank you so much for joining us 1:15:28 REBECCA: We're gonna have a great show at the usual time on Wednesday because my children are no longer sick 1:15:33 RADIX: But hold on I've got two more things. Oh, okay one 1:15:35 DAVE: I've seen a lot of people in the comments section upset that I still have Christmas up in my house 1:15:41 RADIX: It's coming down today. It's coming down today 1:15:44 DAVE: Okay, Christmas decorations are supposed to go up on Christmas Eve And I put it up because everybody else had their Christmas. So I caved to the pressure and put it all up early But it's supposed to stay up until today, which is the feast of the purification of the blessed virgin Mary It is candle mess It's the day that Mary went to the temple to be purified when She started to suffer the pains of the crucifixion when Jesus Christ was only 40 days old and uh It's a very big. I've got to give a shameless plug to my other youtube channel Which I've never I think publicly taken 1:16:24 RADIX: credit for 1:16:26 DAVE: But if you are interested in finding out about this, please visit vokes katolica I have a whole playlist of conferences that I produced back in 2019 Called keto 2019 and in it it explains all of this about Candle mess the blessed virgin Mary suffering and all of that And also another big thing that I don't know if we'll talk about On wednesday But this is fucking huge news actually massive news. This is like once in a century news The society of st. Pius X has announced that they are going to be consecrating 1:17:04 RADIX: bishops on 1:17:06 DAVE: july 1st July 1st. Is that right? I don't know if it says But anyway, this is going to be huge huge 1:17:21 RADIX: massive 1:17:22 DAVE: ground shattering earth breaking Stuff There's probably going to be some excommunications going around. I'll probably wind up getting excommunicated. Oh But hey, it's all interlinked. It's all related. It's all 1:17:37 RADIX: together 1:17:37 DAVE: So maybe I'll have to do a day of after dark about it this week But uh, Backlash — Episode 113 we've been waiting on this since since I've been catholic actually Because we're down to two bishops. We need more. They're they're probably going to consecrate like 12 bishops 1:17:49 RADIX: You'll be okay. You're not going to get excommunicated. It's okay famous last words press X to doubt, but we'll see what happens 1:17:56 DAVE: Maybe the holy father will you know, uh, give his approval and everybody will be happy but, uh Crazy stuff. We'll we'll have to talk about it more. Maybe I'll just do it alone. But anyway, okay now i'm done 1:18:07 REBECCA: Thank you so much. We will see you on wednesday. Bye. Bye

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