Episode 105 — Feds, Gay Ops, and The American Regime: January 6th Revisited w/ Christian Secor

Episode 105 ? Feds, Gay Ops, and The American Regime_ January 6th Revisited w_ Christian Secor Episode 105 — Feds, Gay Ops, and The American Regime_ January 6th Revisited w_ ChrisDan Secor [0:00:01] Guest-1: Welcome to the Backlash, a weekly show about America's Awakening. I'm your host, David J. Reilly. [0:00:06] Dave: Rebecca is off today. Cameron's off today, too. I'm holding down the fort here alone at Backlash headquarters. Rebecca's been trapped in her car for more than an hour now. She's been trapped in the car for 24 hours. Her phone's dead. Nobody can get ahold of her, and Grock has turned her into an Asian. So we're unsure whether or not she'll ever be back. No, I'm kidding. But no, we'll be back on Wednesday, and Wednesday's going to be a really big show. Obviously, Rebecca will be here. Cameron will be here. 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He defiantly mocked the chair of Vice President Mike Pence, making him a high-level target for the feds. Ader being stalked by NPR and then abducted by a FBI SWAT team armed with armored cars and a helicopter, he spent the next four years in various forms of incarceraUon, including 19 months in federal prison. During this incarceraUon, he became a writer with Counter Currents magazine and is now a featured author at Analope Hill. His book, of course, is the American Regime, which you can get with our friends at Analope Hill. His wriUng focuses on squaring the circle of tradiUonalism and cyclical history and techno- futurism. So, ChrisUan, thank you so much for joining us today. Hey, Dave. It's good to be honest. My favorite podcast for poliUcs. [0:04:20] Cameron: Get out. There's no way. There's no way. The only podcast I listen to for poliUcs are this one and maybe Devin Stack every once in a while. And that's preNy much it. Oh, and the Counter Currents podcast, of course. PreNy good. Yeah. You know, we've been talking behind the scenes. We really do need to get Greg Johnson on here. [0:04:41] Dave: He's been around for a very long Ume, so I think it'd be good to talk with him. So the main reason, I'm sUll sick. Sorry about that. I've got a cough. The reason why we're talking today, of course, is because... Where's my... This is... See, this is what happens when you're trying to produce a show without a co-host to blah, blah, blah. The main reason we're talking today is because tomorrow is the fidh anniversary of January 6th. CBS News has put out a new arUcle about this. Five years later, a stubborn fight over the basic facts of the January 6th riot. Of course, CBS, which is now under control of the Jews, Barry Weiss, and all of these types of people. Who... Forget who bought that. It was a Paramount Plus. Oh, what's the guy's name? Larry Ellison, son David. Anyway, here they are wriUng this op-ed talking about a poisonous lingering resentment over the riot that Donald Trump and the administraUon have weaponized the Department of JusUce... Sorry, they... Accusing the Biden administraUon of weaponizing the Department of JusUce, obviously. And it says in the process, Trump and his surrogates of espoused arguments that are inconsistent with the facts of the case. So, you were there, right? And I don't think we've had anybody on the show yet to talk about January 6th. Tell us what happened. What did you see? Why did you go there? Can you walk us through what you saw that day? Yeah, so January 6th, it sprouted out of the stop of steel movement. [0:06:27] Cameron: And the stop of steel movement sprouted out of the curfew breakers movement, which was like a COVID-19 protest. And so there were a few protests before January 6th at DC. I think... I actually think I ran into you for like a split second in one of these in like November, October. I was like, hey, Dave Riley, what's up? Yeah, the million-maga march. Right. Yeah. So, there was that. And then I don't know if they had one. And I think people were planning on doing one for the inauguraUon. And then out of nowhere, everybody started saying January 6th. And it caught so much steam that everybody was like, okay, I guess it's on the 6th now. It's not on the 20th, which was in retrospect kind of weird because it came out of nowhere. Episode 105 So that kind of feeds into the conspiracy theory of like that op, which I don't know if it was being planned out that early could be. But there was some something weird about that. I didn't know anybody who was pushing going there on the 6th as opposed to the 20th unUl like basically everybody, every telegram chat was talking about going there on the 6th. So that was kind of weird. I went there the day before to go to the speech. And we didn't get in. We weren't really there to listen to Trump rant, to be honest. We were there to do a protest. And out of nowhere, I hear someone say like, there's already people at the Capitol. And so we rush over there and there's this whole chaos and commoUon of tear gas and rubber bullets. And I'm kind of like a thrill chaser. So I want to like push as close to the front lines as I could. And, you know, they say like, oh, you broke through these barricades and you pushed the police and you broke through into the Capitol. And none of that was true, but it's a kangaroo course. There's not really anything you could do. I didn't even see any barricades. Like someone pushed them to the side of way before. Police just backed off. So they were le_ng us climb up the steps into the Capitol. And then they literally opened the doors, which all video evidence of magically disappeared, I guess. Right. Yeah, we walked around the inside for a liNle bit. It was really cool. And then the police said, OK, this is going to be a legal assembly. So you guys have to leave and we led. And it all seemed normal unUl we got back to our hotel room. We turn on the TV and I went with a few friends. One of them actually went inside. We got lost and there was no cell recepUon. So I just found them on the other side of the Capitol where I got shot out. And yeah, we once we turn on the TV and our reacUon was just like, what? They're calling us terrorists. And at first, I don't think we understood the gravity of it because we're like, oh, well, we don't want to get fined. So we should probably leave DC and go to Virginia. Like that was our reacUon. We'd be facing 20 years in prison. And I flew home without a hitch. And then I got rolled up about a month later. And that basically begins the prisoner or poliUcal prisoner storyline. And so what was it? What was it like to get black bagged by the American government? I mean, is that basically what happened? Did they come to your house? Did they get you at work? [0:10:11] Dave: Tell us about that a liNle bit. Yeah. [0:10:14] Cameron: They came to my house in a very cliche 6 a.m. Don Raid, right? With a couple crazy armored cars. I don't think that the FBI has MRAPs. I think they're like Meerkat armored cars or something. It's like the same thing. Like if you've seen an MRAP, these are preNy serious like like a bear car armored cars and a helicopter. They surround my house with like 20 FBI agents with their like Mark 18s. I don't know if you've, I think you're in the guns. You've seen like the crazy like Daniel Defend or not Daniel Defend. So there's a Geisle rail FBI Mark 18s with like IR lasers and all of this crazy gizmos that I don't know if these people even knew how to use. Most of these people did not look like law enforcement. They looked like the lobby of a Starbucks, which a lot of people have noted the same thing. It seems like the FBI is like a mixed bag of like Stasi libtards and actual like former military law enforcement. That's incredible. [0:11:18] Dave: So, you know, I remember at the Ume that that was going on, I was over visiUng family over one town over. And as I was pulling up, I saw one of these raids happen because there was a lot of people that were involved from Idaho. Famously, of course, there was that old grandma, right? Maga granny Pam. Oh, right. Episode 105 [0:11:47] Cameron: The trader. Yeah. [0:11:49] Dave: And you know, she got sigh opt into this whole thing. Let me see if I could pull up the Maga granny just for those of you unaware. You know, she was so sad. How like easy it is to one shot boomers. Totally. [0:12:01] Guest-1: Totally. I mean, and she's now there's videos of so this woman was like iniUally like an Amon Bundy supporter. [0:12:08] Dave: She was pro Trump. She was pro freedom, pro liberty, all the stuff. And she goes to January 6. She filmed it. She got raided thrown in jail. I think she only spent like 60 days in jail, though. And when she came out, it was like she was a completely different person. She now goes to the Pride events in Boise. She is pro pedophilia. She is OK with the kids on stage dressed as women, twerking and taking dollar Ups. Totally one shot it. And there's no way to reason with her. I've spoken with her several Umes. She's gone. I don't know if they MK ultraed her or they just killed. I don't know, man, but it's crazy. Totally different person. But so anyway, I was driving over to see family. And as I'm like coming down the street, I look over and there was an M wrap. Three or four sheriff's cars, baNering ram. Everybody was in like camo and there was a black unmarked suburban. So it's like, OK, this is more than just the local sheriff. This is the feds coming in and taking somebody. And I watched them take him, put him in the truck and he was gone. My paranoia levels got to the point where like my wife and I wouldn't even talk. We were like, we had like a whiteboard and we were wriUng notes to each other on the whiteboard because we were afraid that like and I didn't even go. I for those of you who are aware, I went to CharloNesville. So I kind of saw this January 6 coming a mile away and it was like telling people to stay away from it because you never know these crowds of people, they can turn like that. You know, I filmed a lot of these riots that happened in 2018 in Portland and SeaNle and it's incredibly unpredictable, highly volaUle. And for anybody that's a part of this movement, whatever it is, America First, pro-liberty, pro-freedom, being in situaUons like that is just way too dangerous. You're going to get black bagged. You'll go to jail. So tell us about that. Tell us about so the FBI show up at your house, six o'clock raid, treat you like Roger Stone. They put you in jail. What happens next? Tell us about that. Yeah, so for about I think it was 3940 days I was kept preNy sure it was like an 8th Amendment violaUon just in solitary confinement with three hours outside of my cell a week for like four or five weeks, which was preNy insane. [0:14:55] Cameron: I was allowed to talk on the phone only during those hours. So I got like a few minutes like every other day. They just kept me in solitary confinement. No explanaUon why they wouldn't give me a razor, which was crazy. No explanaUon why I asked for one. They said, Oh yeah, we'll get you a razor. Never got it for me. I had to use some like weird chemical to shave my face, which caused like all of these like sores on my face for my bail hearing. The first bail hearing I wasn't given bail for because they said I was dangerous, I guess, even though I had no criminal history and was a college student. And the second Ume I got bail, but it was like $300,000, including bail and bond. I was a unemployed college student. So I don't know how that was legal, but that's what they gave to me. And of course, my family bailed me out. And then ader that, I was on house arrest for 18 months. And then ader that, I was in a regular federal prison for another 18 months. And then ader that, I finally was let out early because of Episode 105 ironically some of the programs that Trump insUtuted. And then I was in a halfway house and house arrest for like another six, seven months. That's incredible. Yeah, it was crazy. And this was for, and I feel like a lot of people forget just how crazy all of this was. I've got some footage here that I'll put on the screen. [0:16:46] Dave: You'll remember the American regime, right? Nancy Pelosi, Biden, they called January 6 the worst day in American history since Pearl Harbor. And what we just saw on the screen was these people that were let into the Capitol walking nicely and neatly between the velvet ropes. And I know a few people who were other people who were at January 6 that did not get the same treatment that you did. Notably, Idaho Senator Ben Taves and his wife, Alicia, they were there, but they weren't arrested. They're Zionists, of course. But the stories are all the same, that people showed up, the police removed the barricades, they opened the doors, they let people in, people were fairly respecPul, they complied with what the officers wanted. And then ader the fact, this whole thing was turned into a witch hunt. And there was a lot of other stuff that happened too. I don't know if I have the arUcle up. But the January 6 thing, what I do, it was the largest federal invesUgaUon in US history, which is just incredible to me. It was so wide-ranging. You know what's funny about that? I think they had 40% of all FBI assets working on that case. And I just saw a thing. I forget what it was, but it's like this hacker that goes ader child predators. He said that the FBI case on the enUre naUonal child grooming and sexual abuse case in the enUre country is like seven people. Geez. And they purposefully limited it. [0:18:41] Cameron: That's incredible. Which tells you everything you need to know about the American regime, right? Right. And we're going to get into your book a liNle bit more as we conUnue. One of the other things that I wanted to bring up with this whole thing in, I guess, kind of se_ng the record straight about January 6, that it was a narraUve operaUon. [0:19:00] Dave: This was not an insurrecUon. This was not the overthrow of the American government. This was a protest that was sancUoned by the President of the United States, who said that he would be there with you and we will peacefully and patrioUcally make our voices heard at the Capitol. And he iniUated the march. And what it was supposed to be, it was supposed to be a sit-in not to overthrow the government. All we were asking for is do an audit of the elecUon. [0:19:32] Cameron: Oh, whoops. We deleted all of the files. All right. Well, that's not good enough. So you're going to have to find the files. Oh, no, we'll just arrest all of you. [0:19:40] Rebecca: Unbelievable. That's what people forget is we weren't asking for a overthrow of the elecUon or the government or anything. [0:19:48] Cameron: We just wanted some proof that this elecUon actually went the way that it supposedly did. Right. Right. And I remember too, I was actually, I was here in Idaho. I gave a speech that day and I remember seeing on my phone as all this was going on. [0:20:04] Guest-1: You know, I thought that this was a fairly normal thing. And of course, the ledists do this all the Ume. We saw video ader video of ledists going into Capitol buildings doing sit-ins. Episode 105 [0:20:17] Dave: They've done it for the Gaza genocide. They've done it for when Trump was elected, you know, all the Ume. The led is able to go into these buildings. They can do sit-ins. They can do protests. And there's no issues whatsoever. But as soon as the right wing, MAGA, whatever that represented at the Ume, they come down like a ton of bricks. It mobilized 40% of the FBI. It's just incredible. Now, something else that happened that day that I think has been swept under the rug or that maybe people forget about was the operaUon with Parler that took place. Because at the Ume, Parler had become a really big app that people were using, right? TwiNer was censoring everybody. They had just removed the president from social media. And so people were using all of these alternaUve apps for organizing, for posUng content and whatnot. And Parler was basically the number one alternaUve to TwiNer at the Ume. And we now know that Parler exposed people's metadata and their user posts. And it was criUcal for tracking and idenUfying January 6th capital rioters, which is interesUng. You know, it's interesUng about that to get into the like the Psyops and Gayops. Yeah. So this chick who I knew, and it's about to be revealed, she was the assistant to the Jew who started Parler, right? [0:21:56] Cameron: Or was at least the CEO. She went on to be the press secretary, I think for the Department of Defense or the Navy. So who is this chick? Kingsley Wilson, who was my former fellow student at UCLA. And now she has basically taken on this grip of being like based in Redpiled, and she knows about the Zionists and about race. She would debate with me vigorously about warmongering and fighUng for the Zionists at UCLA. She was like the worst of the worst. And now I guess she's reinvented herself as based in Redpiled. She got into like an actual physical altercaUon with, what was it, Grayson? You know Grayson, right? What was his last name? I'm American Grayson. I forget what his real name is, but... I might know him on AXE or something. He's friends with my friend Ryan Sanchez. He's got a preNy big Telegram channel. Whatever the case. And this chick, number one, apparently she wasn't smart enough to get into UCLA. So how'd she get in? Well, her dad is a high up in the GOP and basically bought her way in. That's how she got to where she is now. So my theory on this is that her family connecUons were like, hey, the distance sphere is going to be the big thing, especially with young people. So the old grid that you're doing is not going to fly anymore. You have to adopt what the youngins are taking on, which are based in Redpiled, anU-Zionists. Not anU-Jew, just anU-Zionists, whatever that means. Right. Now, see, this is one of those moments when I wish Rebecca was here, [0:23:44] Dave: because we could get an in-depth commentary on this chick's eyebrows. They look fake. They look painted on. Not really sure what's going on here. Forehead looks a liNle proporUonally off. Maybe we could get Clavicular to do a raUng on this chick. But yeah, so I mean, Parler was being pushed at the Ume also by Yair Netanyahu, Bibi Netanyahu's son. I believe he also was promoUng the January 6th insurrecUon protest, whatever the fuck. Are you aware, because there's been a lot of talk behind the scenes about Israeli involvement in January 6th, not just the FBI, not just CIA, not just the American feds, but that there were potenUally Mossad assets there that day that were riling people up. Are you aware of any of those theories? Can you shed any light on that? Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. I've heard theories of like Ukrainian assets as well. I don't know if that's true or not. The boNom line, though, is it's preNy clear that the Israelis wanted Trump to win in 2016, Episode 105 [0:24:58] Cameron: and that's how he was able to win. They didn't want him to win because he was too hot in 2020, and so he lost. And then obviously in 2024, he won because the Israelis wanted him in power. Yeah, and it's so interesUng, too, with all of this that's going on in Venezuela. There's this narraUve out there that the reason Donald Trump kidnapped Maduro and did these strikes on Caracas was because of dominion or smartmaUc voUng machines [0:25:28] Dave: that Venezuela rigged our elecUons. Yeah, I think that's goofy. I've heard that, too, and I'm just like, I don't know, man, [0:25:38] Cameron: it's kind of like QAnon, you know, Jason Bourne, so I don't mind to that at all. Yeah, I don't know, man. I also, there was something about like Italian satellites, right, that got like hacked. [0:25:51] Dave: Bro, like the amount of slop that is out there that people are just uncriUcally eaUng up is... Yeah, it says brown-eyed curly-haired Italians with their big noses. Oh my gosh. But yeah, so Parler exposed everybody that was there. They got hacked. People got tracked down for that, thrown in jail, black-bagged. Now, are you aware, are there any J6 poliUcal prisoners that are sUll in jail, or have they all been freed at this point? So there's at least one guy who was taken in on a BS gun charge that only stemmed from the warrants from January 6th. [0:26:40] Cameron: I don't think that he's goNen a federal pardon on his gun charge, which I don't agree with any gun laws for law-abiding people, so I would count that. Yeah. Now, did you get... I know it's not... I guess I have to press a buNon here. Donald Trump, one of the very first things that he did the day ader he was inaugurated this go-around, [0:27:01] Dave: was supposedly granUng clemency to everybody that was involved in January 6th. Is that true? Did you get clemency? Did this work out for you? Yeah, it was a full and uncondiUonal pardon, which was honestly more than I was expecUng. [0:27:17] Cameron: I think there's four to eight people, including Enrique Tarrio, who didn't get a full pardon. I don't know if it was a lesser pardon or if it was some other type of clemency, but the numbers didn't align. There was a certain number of people who were officially J6ers, and it was off by a few. [0:27:44] Cameron: And I think Enrique Tarrio and... Who's the Oathkeeper guy with the eye patch? [0:27:52] Cameron: Randall? No, not Randalls. Yeah, let me look it up real quick. I forget what his name is, but I don't think he got full clemency either. Some of the super, super persecuted people who were facing insane burgos. Right, this guy, Stuart Rhodes? Yeah, I don't think that some of those people got full clemency. InteresUng. Yeah, that's crazy. [0:28:17] Dave: Look at this convicUve, sediUous conspiracy and obstrucUng a federal proceeding. And that's, I think, what Ues back to January 6th. That's unbelievable. Yeah, people who got those crazy get-no-charges didn't get full clemency. Episode 105 [0:28:37] Cameron: Everybody, I think, who got my charge, which was BS anyways, but it was obstrucUon of an official proceeding, those people got full clemency. InteresUng. Now, I wonder, like, does this apply to people that weren't ever charged? [0:28:51] Dave: Like, so if there was somebody that was at January 6th and they were never charged with being there, they're off the hook at this point. [0:28:58] Cameron: Yeah. Because, like, I've been keeping my mouth shut. There were some groipers who I had known, like, all the way back, like, a couple years, who the FBI was, like, totally off about them. They're like, we know, you know who these people are. Who are they? And they literally thought one of them was a woman, which is an L for that guy, because he was wearing, like, this big, kind of feminine in retrospect, which was funny. But yeah, I wouldn't get anybody up. Fuck the FBI. Yeah, no, fuck these people. [0:29:29] Dave: And so, now we have a new American regime, right? We have the Biden regime is out. The Trump regime is in. Kash Patel, Dan Bongino just, he just, I guess, reUred or resigned. He's going back to podcasUng. But remember, podcasts don't have any effect on poliUcs. They're just insignificant things that happen on the internet with no real-world value. That's why the deputy director of the FBI resigned to go start his podcast again. Sure. But what are your thoughts about this new FBI? What are your thoughts about Kash Patel and the way that they've been handling this, too? Because it seems like there was a limited hangout, right? Like, FBI director, excuse me, former FBI director Christopher Ray got up at the House Select hearings on January 6th and said that there were absolutely no FBI agents that were present during January 6th and then ader Kash Patel became director, he said that there was over 200 FBI agents that were there. But they weren't there insUgaUng anything bad. They were there as crowd control. Do we believe this? Has there been any change in the FBI? Do you think that Kash Patel is, frankly, any different than what we were seeing under the Biden administraUon? Yeah, Kash Patel is weird because I don't know if you remember during the Las Vegas shooUng [0:31:01] Cameron: that one cop who supposedly shot Paddock and then the next day he looked like he's seen a ghost and he doesn't want to talk. That kind of seems like what happened to Kash Patel. I don't know what MK Ultra techniques that they're using, but it was really weird. He went into the FBI saying that he would clear the swamp. He said, what was it? He wanted to turn the FBI headquarters, probably the ugliest building ever, by the way, into a museum of the deep state. He said that he was going to release all the obscene files. And literally he looks like they have him by the nuts. It's really weird. They're doing the very bare minimum, probably less than the bare minimum. It's nice that they admit that there was 200 FBI agents in the crowd. The crowd control excuse seems like BS. I can't imagine them using special agents as crowd control or protest. That seems weird. Yeah, I don't buy it at all. I've seen videos of basically people dressed as Trump supporters in the Capitol handing out baseball bats and clubs from a basement window to other Trump supporters, people dressed as Trump supporters, in the crowd before anybody had entered the Capitol. This is all in video and has been for at least four years. That's unbelievable. [0:32:32] Guest-1: Yeah, I remember seeing some of that stuff as it came out. Here's the quote from Cash Patel that FBI agents were sent into a crowd control mission ader the riot was Episode 105 declared by Metro police. This was a failure of corrupt leadership that lied to Congress and the American people. And of course, we also know now that the Capitol police and Nancy Pelosi [0:32:56] Dave: and these types of people, they had the opportunity to call up the NaUonal Guard, I think 20,000 troops. And they knew that there would be at least a quarter of a million people in D.C. that day. January 6th was promoted by official channels. It was officially promoted by the Trump campaign. It was officially promoted by all of these other nonprofits and prayer groups that got together. So they knew that people were coming and they chose instead to have a skeleton crew at the Capitol. And yeah, I just, I don't buy it. I don't buy that there weren't some sort of assets. You know, I know a priest actually, and again, you know, hoping that I'm not about to get a knock at the door here, but I know a priest that was at January 6th. And he told me that he saw the Capitol police open the gates, that he saw with his own eyes, AnUfa people that were there insUgaUng and engaging in some of these acUviUes like you were describing, riling people up, smashing windows, that these people were not real MAGA supporters. Also, DC is one of these ciUes like Portland where I mean, I know you've been to the a million MAGA march. [0:34:10] Cameron: You've seen the cops in D.C. Very weird demographics of people, a lot of dykes and weird-looking people. Blue AnUfa, blue AnUfa, we call them. [0:34:22] Dave: Right. And you know, especially ader being at CharloNesville and seeing what happened there, where the Virginia State police were, you know, they had baNalions of these people standing on either side of Lee Park, batons, riot shields, you know, helmets, full gear, and they were standing down the enUre Ume unUl they declared it an unlawful assembly, even though they had a permit for CharloNesville. And then when they finally did acUvate the Virginia State police, it was to push the alt-right into the crowd of AnUfa and force a confrontaUon. And it seems almost idenUcal to the playbook that was used to January 6th, except that there was no AnUfa there, you know, it was just an empty building. Yeah, there's a lot of classified tacUcs. [0:35:20] Cameron: I wonder if there literally is like an SOP for like taking one side over the other and what to do. Yeah, I mean, if only there was somebody in the FBI that could reveal this kind of stuff. [0:35:32] Dave: If only, you know, we got our guy elected president and, you know, we could get some disclosure on the kind of tacUcs that the American regime uses. Plus, I don't have any paUence for like that. Oh, what about the base people in the FBI? Where are the leaks? Right, they're not there. A couple of other angles of January 6th that I wanted to talk about with you is this one. Of course, this made news all around the world. Everybody knows that supposedly four police officers who responded to the Capitol aNack died. I guess this one is that four of them have died by suicide. But there was also a lot of talk about Officer Brian Sicknick, who allegedly was murdered by January 6th protesters. But I think a lot of people have it confused. Officer Sicknick died the day ader, number one. He did not die at the Capitol. He was not murdered by MAGA protesters, as far as I'm aware. I'm not enUrely sure what happened. I don't know, did he get hit in the head with like a fire exUnguisher or something? That's what they were trying to pin it on. Right, but I'm not enUrely sure if that's the case. Now, there is somebody that I'm aware of that did die at January 6th. And I've heard absolutely nobody naUonwide talk about him. And Episode 105 that is 50-year-old Ben Phillips from Bloomsburg, Pennsylvania. Ben Phillips was at January 6th. He was, I believe, on the steps. And he got tear-gassed by the police. [0:37:20] Guest-1: That's a picture of him. Ben Phillips, he created this weird thing called Trumparoo. [0:37:28] Dave: It was a liNle plush doll. Yeah, here you go, you can kind of see. It was like a plush doll kangaroo of Donald Trump with the goofy hair. Kind of cute, whatever. But he was there at January 6th. He got tear-gassed, and he died that day. So the Capitol police were killing people. And not just Ben Phillips, but we also had Ashley BabbiN, who got shot in the head by who? We sUll don't know, I think. It might have been that black guy, right? I think it was the black guy, Officer Burt. [0:38:08] Cameron: Yeah, okay. So it's just amazing to me how weird and how skew. [0:38:16] Dave: And I think most of the MAGA people get it, most of the Republican people get it. They understand that this whole thing was a narraUve operaUon that what happened and the reality of January 6th and what was presented in the media are two completely different things. But these Democrats, they sUll hold to it. I sUll see people like in Boise, Mayor McLean, they talk about January 6th and the insurrecUon all the Ume. They use it as a pretext. It's just astounding to me. So what did you learn about the American regime? What's your book about? Of course, your book is available at Antelope Hill Publishing called The American Regime. I think you iniUally published this pseudonymously or anonymously and then took credit for it ader the fact. But tell us what inspired the book, what it's about, and some of your thoughts. Yeah, so I've been a big reader for a long Ume. [0:39:18] Cameron: While I was at UCLA, I didn't get a lot of Ume to read stuff that wasn't in the curriculum. But it did kind of radicalize me to see how, for lack of a beNer term, ratchet the led was. And these were the people who controlled our country, even though Donald Trump was nominally in power and in California, the Democrats were always going to be in power. [0:39:44] Cameron: And when I got rolled up, it gave me a lot of Ume to do some research on what went wrong, why am I being held basically having my 8th Amendment rights revoked, what's going on here. And so I did kind of like a soul search on America. And the themes that I basically focused on were the history of America, what led up to this. And so I focused on, number one, America being a died-in-the-wool liberal country. Some people will fight me on that. The Founding Fathers, they can't. There's a liNle bit more nuance than to just say that they were like libtards. But they were liberal for their Ume. And so the led does have some validity to their argument [0:40:39] Cameron: that they're in the true tradiUon of America. And then I looked at the foundaUon myths of America. So what you find is the foundaUon myths of the United States, the themes basically degenerate. So at first you have kind of like a, maybe like a aristocraUc slash bourgeois naUonalism. [0:41:04] Cameron: And then at the Civil War, you get more of like, based on equality. And then you get the civil rights and World War II, and you get white guilt from the Holocaust, even Episode 105 though the U.S. didn't parUcipate in the Holocaust. And you get the civil rights, right, which is about not just equality, but equity. And what I found was we kind of are in the midst of a new cultural foundaUon myth, right, during the, not just the BLM, but it was like a second civil rights movement. People don't remember, they forget very quickly how insane 2020 and 2019 and 2021 were. It was preNy nuts. And I think that we kind of lost that culture war because there wasn't really a true answer to it, even with this Trump regime right now. Nothing's been rolled back really. We're ge_ng some deportaUons, but that's it. But all the cultural stuff that was avant-garde in 2020 is basically just like the new normal now. Yeah, it is really interesUng to be seeing a lot of these [0:42:19] Dave: talking heads that have adopted the talking points of Richard Spencer circa 2017. You know, not that it's a bad thing that they've adopted the talking points, but they've adopted them ader the fact once they've become meaningless. Right. You know, like a lot of the... The fact that they're allowed to talk about them [0:42:41] Cameron: makes you wonder if like the people in charge think they just have it on lock. Yeah. Well, and it's also just like a lot of [0:42:50] Dave: how do I say this politely? You catch my drid here where there's no change that's actually happening. I mean, we just saw today there's a video now circulaUng of Lindsey Graham and Donald Trump and Howard Lutnick on Air Force One talking about going into Cuba, talking about Iran. It seems like the neocons totally won. And they figured out that they can just go on TwiNer. They can go on Truth Social or even on mainstream media and parrot these talking points that the alt-right pioneered, you know, six, seven years ago. And it totally pacifies the MAGA base. They don't ask any quesUons. Oh, sorry. [0:43:37] Cameron: No, go ahead. So what's funny about that too is a large porUon of my book is examining power. And I come at it from like an NRX CurUs Jarvan, not worldview, but I basically give it like a, you know, devil's advocate of the NRX worldview. And at that Ume, you know, CurUs Jarvan, everybody knew that he was half Jewish, but he sUll said some interesUng things that seriously influenced the alt-right. And so I go through it and I say, yeah, there's a lot of truth here, but he's half Jewish and he's not talking about the elephants in the room. We'll come to find out a few years later, all of these tech guys are aping CurUs Jarvan and he's big with Barry Weises, two of the New York Times, right? They're like wriUng all these pup pieces about CurUs Jarvan. And does it translate into any wins for the alt-right? No, it's all, oh, actually, you can use CurUs Jarvan's philosophy of the Patchwork Society to create a techno feudalism where, you know, the right wing is basically just squashed, but it's okay, you just have to be a hobbit and let the dark elves read Jews do everything and you're gonna be okay, right? Don't ask us what our plans are. Just trust in CurUs Jarvan that you have a good representaUve with the tech overlords and just shut up. Wow. Yeah, I mean, it does seem like that. [0:45:10] Dave: And the pressure too, there's like a lot of pressure that's like building up on social media, on acts specifically, where if you're noUcing these things, if you're coming out and saying, hey, you know, I don't think that this Venezuela thing is really in our interest. The Iran stuff is obviously not in our interest and that whole sphere, the Bronze Age Barry Weis network, to quote our friend Basil, it acUvates and you get these people like, what's his name? CapUve Episode 105 Dreamer, Mr. Forehead, you know, coming out, aping all the talking points, pretending to be pro- Hitler, pro-Nazi, all of this stuff, and then just, you know, sucking up to the American regime, sucking up to the Zionist regime that controls America and basically saying that if you don't like what Donald Trump is doing, that you're brown, you're third-worldest, you are whatever, as opposed to actually like engaging with any of the discussion, with any of the talking points. It is ge_ng extremely sophisUcated, the gay ops, the talking points, these networks of influence. Well, that's another great example [0:46:26] Cameron: of like a suspected gay op on my part, because, you know, I don't know, I don't think that CapUve Dreamer gets paid any money. I just think he does it for the love of the game. And I don't think there's like any conspiracy of him working for these tech overlords or, you know, Neocons. I think that they just find people who just so happen like basically through evoluUonary pressure to say what they want and they allow those people to shine. And something that made me like weird about him, I used to really like his content just because I thought it was funny. And I posted a picture of like a bunch of books that I had read in House Arrest, and he comes at me and he's like, these don't have any creases on the spine. You didn't read these. And I'm like, why are you like shi_ng on people trying to actually study stuff? Right. Right? Like, shouldn't we be trying to actually have [0:47:24] Cameron: some kind of way to contend with the intellectual led? But now he just like comes at me, which I thought was really weird. And also like I was in House Arrest for 18 months. Like is it really that surprising that I would read a bunch of books? Were you not capable of reading a bunch of books? [0:47:43] Guest-1: You know, he tries to come off as like an intellectual or whatever. I'm not sure if he is capable of reading books, [0:47:50] Dave: but he is definitely capable of being in the group chats and parroUng the talking points that the bat sphere wants parroted. It's preNy funny. You know what I think is going to be the future [0:48:03] Cameron: of that sphere? I've already kind of heard it from someone who I consider a friend. So I'm not shooUng on him. I just, he's in tech. And so I kind of get a liNle bit of what they're thinking. I think that it's going to be like, oh, actually we the future of the white race is the Democrats because the Democrats are evil and Patrick Bateman and that's based. Well, didn't we get into this from the beginning because the led were evil and we didn't want to be evil but now being evil is like based on alpha. Yeah, it does seem like it does seem like there is [0:48:42] Dave: that angle being pushed. And you know, there's also another fed up that's being pushed right now that is deeply related to January 6th and I think we're going to go more into depth with this in the future and hopefully you've got something that you can help shed some light on this but that would be this character that has popped up out of nowhere. Kind of like this Nick Shirley guy, right? Who pops up out of nowhere exposing all of the fraud at the Somalian Daycares and there is fraud there. But you know, that was a story that came out in 2014 and it seems that this has been kosher approved. You've got the kosher stamp to hate Somalians now. Of course, that's all out of the media. That's gone. It's been obliterated now that Episode 105 we've gone into Venezuela. But this other op that seems to be going on is this guy Jake Lang. Jake Lang, you know, he's got that he was a January 6th poliUcal prisoner in his headline. He was arrested. He did go to jail. [0:49:39] Dave: But he's out here now. This is just from over the weekend. He led a march on APAC where, you know, he's saying we're outside of APAC headquarters in Washington DC. We demand APAC stop paying off our congressmen like a bunch of only fans prosUtutes. Talmudic Jewish lobbyists have opened our borders to every brown mongrel to replace white people in Europe and the USA. He's really leaning into the racism. He's really leaning into the hate, I guess, if you will. He's also been up in Dearborn, Michigan, sUrring up division between ChrisUans and Muslims. He's been trying to provoke the Islamic community, I think. He wants them to commit an act of terrorism. And of course, it's all come out since that this guy Jake Lang is literally a Zionist Jew. [0:50:36] Dave: Right. I mean, what are we doing here? We've got Jews leading protests against APAC and sUrring up division in Dearborn, Michigan and, you know, leaning into this white racism thing. Can you share some thoughts on this? Were you in jail with Jake Lang? Did you ever meet this guy while you were locked up? Can you shed some light? No, so he was in the DC Guth log, [0:51:01] Cameron: which was a different facility than where I was. But I know I had some mutuals who were in there with him and they had nothing but bad things to say about him. They said that he admiNed to being like former AnUfa. Apparently he's from like a well-connected Jewish family in the Northeast. Definitely gay op territory there. I would not touch him with a 40- foot pole. I think he, well, number one, he has like a huge following on TwiNer, like a naturally huge following, which is always a red flag. Some of these J6 accounts, you know, they have like hundreds of thousands to maybe even like millions of followers. Another one is... Oh, what is it? InsurrecUon Barbie. She has like over a million followers and she just like posts Hasbra all day. Yeah, InsurrecUon Barbie. I didn't know that... [0:51:53] Dave: So she was a January 6 person? Yeah, she actually apparently did a few months in prison. Oh, wow. Well, that's interesUng. Because, yeah, all I ever see, all I ever see about InsurrecUon Barbie, it's just like the most obvious Hasbra Israeli bullshit. Right. Going on and on about Iran, going on and on about Hezbollah and Hamas and October 7 and all this stuff. There's a tweet here from Gen X girl. She's been posUng some really good stuff, by the way. Who is InsurrecUon Barbie? Her name is Irina Pavchinskaya, Russian? Is she Russian? She played guilty to Felony Thed in 2017, disbarred in 2017, charged with fraud and forgery, then Felony Thed, then she comes out in 2022 as InsurrecUon Barbie on X, and she pedals, is prose real propaganda and has a million followers. It definitely seems like this is... that there is an operaUon going on to kind of co-opt whatever racist wing of MAGA is sUll out there and then give them... Because the Israelis want the aid to stop, by the way. If you're not aware, Bibi Netanyahu has come out and said things about the aid to Israel. Jonathan Pollard. You break memo. They want the aid to stop. [0:53:21] Cameron: They don't want to be beholden to the U.S. Correct. Episode 105 [0:53:24] Dave: Yeah, they don't like the strings aNached. And so now you've got people like Jake Lang coming out and protesUng outside of APAC, asking for an end to the aid and end to APAC and all of this stuff, which essenUally, the way that I see it is that Israel is creaUng a new empire, and they're using the muscle of the United States to do it. We've been seeing the Abraham Accords, we've been seeing the Isaac Accords in South America, the Venezuela stuff. There was all kinds of Freudian slips that were happening on television over the weekend, where people were saying that this is going to be great for the Israeli people. Oh, I mean the Venezuelans. Mike Huckabee came out and said it. There was even a memo, I believe, that was released by the White House, talking about how Venezuela's interacUon with Hezbollah and some of these other groups in the Middle East, that that was the reason why we did what we did. But it seems like they are construcUng a new empire and the moment that the United States cuts them loose, the moment that the Maga Patriots finally end aid to Israel, that Israel is then going to take a step forward on the world stage and have a global empire. Yeah, I don't even think that the idea [0:54:45] Cameron: of the Neo-Judean empire is even controversial at this point. I think it's actually kind of part of future U.S. foreign policy. If they want to be able to wrap up the Middle East [0:54:56] Guest-1: so they can focus on China, and Israel is going to be their liNle island. Yeah. Maybe not so liNle, though. [0:55:02] Cameron: Maybe kind of a big island in the Middle East. Well, yeah, and then when you add to that the Belt and Road IniUaUve, that, you know, [0:55:08] Dave: China is, if they're going to be moving anything from China to Africa or from Africa to China, a lot of that stuff is going to be able to, in the future, [0:55:17] Dave: go by way of railroad, by way of this Belt and Road that they're making. And Israel's going to middleman that. They're going to tax that. [0:55:25] Rebecca: They're going to make a lot of money. They have a very high birth rate, [0:55:29] Cameron: especially for a technologically advanced country. So they're basically gearing up for, like, a Libans-Rom expansion. Yeah. It definitely seems that that's the way that things are going. And also... One more thing about the gay ops, though, in, like, January 6th. So one thing that I learned that's really scary, honestly, is they have the feds. They have a technique where they can have, like, people infiltrate. And so they're feds, but they're confidenUal informants. But they're, like, so confidenUal that... So what they do is, let's say, some guy gets busted for, like, guns. Well, instead of charging them for the guns, they'll say, okay, you're facing 25 years in prison for NFA violaUons, but don't worry. We're not going to pursue that. What you're going to do is you're going to commit, oh, I don't know, obstrucUon of an official proceeding on January 6th, and you're going to go in and you're going to commit some crimes. And we're going to send you to prison, but you're not going to go to prison for 25 years. You're going to go to prison for three years. Sound like a good plan. And so there are potenUally people who seem totally legit because they actually want to prison, but who knows? InteresUng. Episode 105 [0:56:49] Dave: Yeah, I think that's totally possible. We have yet to do an episode on the Oklahoma City bombing. I'd really like to do that. I sUll need to finish Wendy PainUng's book, AberraUon and the Heartland of the Real, but she makes a very convincing case that Timothy McVeigh was... they call it sheep dipping. Basically, where you've got somebody that's in the military or the intelligence community that gets thrown out and in fact, they were not thrown out. That was cover. And they were sUll funcUoning on behalf of the American government, on behalf of the Army or the intelligence agencies. And it does seem like that's what was going on with Tim McVeigh. Obviously, if you buy the official narraUve [0:57:33] Cameron: on Oklahoma City, you don't have an internal dialogue, you know? Bro, it's... I want to like their sloppiest jobs is Oklahoma City bombing. Yeah, and that one cop just like, you know, shot himself two Umes in the back of the head, half a mile away from his car on the side of the road in the middle of the night. Right, right. That was the black cop, right? Yeah. I forget his name. There was another book about that. The Medusa Files, perhaps. [0:58:02] Dave: It was the one where I read about that. Anyway... Oh, and he moved over barbed wire, I think, too. Unbelievable. And, you know, this, of course, all harkens back. Here's a tweet from El Oso, Lopez Motor Cars. You know, back in the 1980s, we had people like James Mitchell Rosenberg, who went by the name Jimmy Anderson, who was leading, you know, I guess the ChrisUan Defense League, right? The guy comes out, he dresses like a Nazi. He sounds like a crazy right-wing extremist, but really he is on the payroll of the AnU-DefamaUon League. They're there to make white ChrisUan right-wing Americans look bad. And, you know, I think that we're seeing this playbook come back out again with people like Jake Lang and others. [0:58:50] Rebecca: So... Jack Ruby was another cheap-dipped guy, right? [0:58:54] Cameron: Jacob Rubinstein, the Israeli arms trafficker. Yeah, he was an Israeli arms trafficker. [0:59:00] Dave: He was involved with the mafia, the Jewish mafia, the Kosher Nostra. You know, that whole thing is preNy obvious, too. When you start ge_ng into, like, what was going on when he got put in jail, right? I forget what his name was. Jolly. What was his name? Jolly West, right? The guy that was the head of MKUltra came in to see him. Probably gave him some drugs and he went totally crazy. He was raving about how there's a second holocaust underway in America, and that he did what he did for the Jews, i.e. referring to the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald. So, yeah, it's totally... That whole saga is just... Man, it deserves an in-depth treatment. So, wrapping up, what are your thoughts about acUvism in 2026? What are your thoughts about community organizing? How should patrioUc Americans that love their country, that hate seeing what the regime has been doing, how would you... What kind of advice would you give to people who want to organize, who want to do something to push back? Is that far gone? Should you not even bother at this point and just focus on your family, your businesses, or is there a way forward for acUvism in 2026 moving forward? Yeah, so we were talking about this a liNle bit yesterday. I helped my friend, Ryan Sanchez, organize this Charlie Kirk vigil in HunUngton Beach, [1:00:38] Cameron: which was supposed to be a right-wing city. And it was something I'd never seen before. There were evangelicals who were going against us, supposedly evangelicals who Episode 105 were... We were saying we need to crush the led because they're violent and killing people. And these people, masquerading basically as moral facts, were saying, like, no, actually, we need to just be pacifist and be peaceful. It turns out these people were ge_ng whipped up, number one, by the... I don't think it was the Jewish Defense League, but it was like this... It was like this American-Israeli organizaUon in HunUngton. They actually declared HunUngton Beach to be a sister city of a city in Israel. And also, AnUfa, like, communist anarchist socialists were coming out from Detroit to influence the crowd dressed up as MAGA people and rousing them against the organizers. And obviously, there's nothing we can do. We can't push out people that have, like, MAGA hats. That would be, like, the weirdest opUcs ever, which obviously they knew. So ader that, I was just like, this is ge_ng, like, too weird. This is way above my pay grade. Someone way richer than me needs to, like, organize this stuff and make sure that, you know, they can't run gay ops by who knows who and who knows what. By the way, the HunUngton Beach City Council, they denounced the protest, or not protest, but vigil, the first vigil. Then they had a second vigil that was, like, very normie-coded that, like, accomplished absolutely nothing that obviously the city council were fine with. But the one that was actually aNempUng to organize young men in Orange County to potenUally, you know, do something good, like, you know, start businesses, create fraternal brotherhoods, that one, they unanimously denounced. And I think that the city council is actually, like, seven out of seven conservaUve, right? So that definitely black-pilled me on anything like that. So I would say at this point, there's not really much else we can do than build because we have a lot of smart people on our side, industrious people. And a lot of our guys are going to inherit a lot of wealth from delusional boomers. So, you know, that might not be the message that people are looking for. A lot of our guys are very energeUc and want to do something. So I would just say, you know, maybe, like, join an acUve club or Patriot Front or some other kind of aligned organizaUon and just meet people, hang out with people. You know, play pick-up basketball with fellow-minded people. Play a Dungeons & Dragons game. Like, there's so much you can do, you know, just to make that connecUon so that we can have, like, a union of people. Because if we're atomized, a lot of people, they'll say, like, oh, I've never met anybody who shares my views. And really, that's like the worst thing, because we're social creatures. If you aren't organized, you're basically useless. People will be like, oh, these anUfa guys, they're like a bunch of twigs and, you know, they're liNle trolls. I could take one easily. And it's like, well, they have the police and the state, and there's 50 of them, and there's like one of you. So it doesn't maNer how patheUc these people are, they're actually organized. And sure, that's facilitated by the state and by NGOs, but the point stands that if you're not organized, you're preNy well screwed in anything, not just in poliUcs and business and anything. Right. I mean, it definitely seems like they want young men, you know, [1:04:34] Dave: they want them wearing the Oculus glasses. [1:04:37] Dave: They want them scrolling TwiNer all the Ume, cha_ng with an AI sex bot instead of having a real girlfriend. They've put people into a digital cage where your emoUons, your thoughts, the things that, you know, come across your feed affect how you feel, as opposed to living in the real world. I mean, it is very, very matrix-esque in a way where when you unplug, you kind of get offline, you meet with other normal people, and you build stuff. Like, that's the way that it used to be. We used to have all of these different networks like the InternaUonal Order of Odd Fellows or the Ancient Order of Hibernians or, you know, all of these different Episode 105 church groups that would help people get networked. It would help people with their businesses. If they needed jobs, they could go to their community, meet other people, and they wouldn't be alone. And it does seem like that is kind of an undervalued asset at this Ume, you know, this type of real community organizing, real fraternal networks. I know that MetaPrime001 got to give him a big shout-out on TwiNer. That's his big thing, pushing for people to create these types of fraternal networks. There's also places, and we are very blessed here in Idaho. We've got like the Old State Saloon, a bar owned by a based guy where you can actually go drink beer and meet people in a social se_ng. And they even do, like, mixers and stuff like that. I think they've got a big meeUng tomorrow night. They're creaUng a new group for, like, invesUgaUng fraud in the state. So I've got to give them a big shout-out. We do have a couple of super chats for you. First up, let's see here. Hold on. [1:06:31] Dave: Yeah, it's a light show today, guys. Booktrack grooves. ChrisUan, have you ridden a horse? Never. How was the prison food? I was lucky in that the food wasn't that bad. [1:06:49] Cameron: Most prisons, though, it's horrible. And in the detenUon center, when I first got arrested, I lost, I think, like 15 pounds over the course of a month. That's how bad the food was. Jeez, that's unbelievable. [1:07:02] Dave: Now, are you able to engage in your Second Amendment right ader all of this? [1:07:08] Guest-1: Yes, as of the pardon. Faced. That's cool. [1:07:12] Dave: And Booktrack grooves has another quesUon. ChrisUan, what types of policies do you think would be helpful for you and for others? Do you think we need our tech guys? We definitely need our tech guys. [1:07:24] Cameron: You know, the end of my book is kind of a polemic against the techno feudalism that they're trying to insUtute. But I look at technology as a posiUve thing. I'm a techno opUmist. I like where some of the technology is going. You know, if you're a smart person, if you have an internal dialogue, if you have some self-control, you can use technology for really cool things and make a lot of money doing it. Drone technology, 3D prinUng technology, AI, I'm very opUmisUc about all that stuff. And I don't really understand people who are like super pessimisUc about that kind of thing. You know, it's made my life a lot beNer. Yeah, I mean, for sure, the ability to like get on an app like was it Replet? There's a whole bunch of them, not paid by Replet. [1:08:16] Dave: But if you want to give us money, we do need the money. No kidding. But like you can get on these different apps and it can help you code things. It can help you make apps, widgets, things on your computer that make life way easier. And it's kind of a new dawn. You know, there's a lot of people that... I remember even like five years ago, I had a bunch of coder friends and it was like, I don't know what I would do without them. And now that we have AI, it's like actually, yeah, we don't need coders anymore. We just need people with the idea. I mean, maybe you need someone to go through and work out the bugs and stuff like that, but it's going to be crazy. Anybody can be a Steve Jobs now. Episode 105 [1:08:57] Cameron: Maybe that's a liNle bit of exaggeraUon, but like maybe soon anybody can literally be a Steve Jobs. Yeah. But to say, do we need our tech guys? I think that's like to say yes is the ulUmate understatement because tech is basically our last gambit because we're not going to take the state and tech is going in a certain direcUon and it's a very easy to turn it in our direcUon and use tech to influence the culture [1:09:24] Guest-1: to the extent where it doesn't really maNer who's in charge. [1:09:28] Cameron: Like Democrat or Republican, you know, I believe that, you know, Bitcoin is going to be a serious factor in our economy. Democrat or Republican, I believe that AI is going to be a serious factor in our economy. So if we can control that stuff, it really doesn't maNer, you know, for lack of a beNer word, who the goyim basically want to put into power for their bread and circuses because all of the stuff that actually affects your life through technology will be controlled ideally by people that are friendly to us. Yeah. [1:10:01] Dave: And, you know, we've also seen stuff like Emily Eukes' Will Stansel show. I don't know if you've had a chance to see the Christmas special on that. I was dying laughing. It's absolutely hysterical. If you haven't seen that, you've got to see it. But there is like a wave that at least I'm seeing of creators, you know, people creaUng propaganda, using AI, making apps. I mean, there's been a lot of good stuff I've seen from Andrew Torba, you know, creaUng these different databases to be able to search for fraud, to be able to search for all these different handouts. I think they're even working on an app for people to be able to get government contracts, which is obviously an area where our people should be. We're really thinking about that type of thing, because the state isn't changing anyUme soon, clearly. And we've got to get with the program, [1:10:51] Guest-1: or we're going to get led behind. We've got a couple other super chats. I'm just going to read real quick before we let you go, and then I'll read some commercials. [1:10:58] Dave: Daniel Davis, 8607 sent $10 on YouTube. You guys are featured on YouTube's front page, just le_ng you know. Keep them coming. Thank you very much. $5 from Daniel Davis, 8607. Hello, everyone. Thanks for watching this. Thanks for watching this. I can't wait for the next one. Thanks for watching this of the 07 President Roseann Boyland, who was beat to death by the cops on video and was sUll being beaten ader she was dead. Cheese. [1:11:26] Cameron: I didn't even know about this. Yeah. That was one of the most gruesome videos of January 6. Cheese. I haven't even heard of this. [1:11:32] Guest-1: This is a number in. I think they blamed her death on, like, a drug overdose of like meth. something stupid like that. Oh, that's so tragic. Is there a full list of how many people died that day? I think it's like five. Geez, that's unbelievable. [1:11:53] Dave: It's absolute fucking shame. What happened? [1:11:56] Cameron: I have a list of all of them in like the very front of my book, of all the ones that I knew about. There might have been a couple since then that have come out, but I think it's at least five. Right. Episode 105 [1:12:06] Dave: And of course, we've got, it's just so frustraUng to see the, again, we'll deal with Venezuela on the Wednesday show, 6 PM Eastern, tune in for that. But it's like to see the narraUve around Venezuela, Maduro was a dictator. He did awful things to his people, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, what about the governor of Virginia in 2017? What about the mayor of DC during January 6th? What if Donald Trump sent a airlid over to Minnesota and picked up Tim Walls and threw him in prison for fraud? Yeah, the way that these those things are received, even by our guys, is really black polling, which is why I'm more [1:12:53] Guest-1: white-filled on the non-poliUcal soluUons like tech because I'm just, when I see people's reacUon to that, I'm like, man, this people is beyond saving if they think that this is gonna benefit them in any way. [1:13:06] Cameron: Right, right. I mean, you know, gonna go out on a limb here, [1:13:10] Dave: but in two years, I do not think that what we just did to Maduro is going to have any effect on the American way of life whatsoever. And by the way, the oil reserves that they have in Venezuela, number one, that's gonna take Ume to get up and running. Number two, our oil reserves in Alaska are much bigger than whatever was down in Venezuela. We are a net oil exporter. If we wanted to just give the world the middle finger when it comes to oil, natural gas, all this stuff, we could do that. We have enough to last three or 400 years here in the American heartland alone. So the people that are coping, you know, because Donald Trump is coming out and saying, oh, yeah, we're going there to take their oil, you know. Actually, no, I don't think it had to do with the oil either. I think it has to do with Israel. I think it has to do with perhaps this narraUve of closing the Straits of Hormuz, right? Because all of the markets are fake. All of the economic markets are fake. It's all about narraUve control. And so now that we've got Venezuela, if the Iranians did decide to close the Straits of Hormuz, it's like, oh, well, we got Venezuela and the markets go, hey, look at that, great. And they don't tank or whatever the case may be. So I think that there's a lot of bullshit floaUng around there. John- [1:14:32] Cameron: So Venezuela is kind of across from Nigeria, right? And didn't we also drop some bombs there? So I wonder if there's some kind of pipeline that they're trying to accomplish there. Yeah, oh yeah, it's very transparent. There's like nothing between Nigeria [1:14:47] Dave: and the Gulf of Mexico, but blue water. It's very transparent. John Chandler, 89, sent $20 on YouTube. Dave, I'm in the process of converUng to the church and learn about the fake sister Lucy conspiracy theory and was really blown away. I'm wondering if you can provide some insight on that. Thanks for the work you do, Rebecca and Cam. Yes, I'm gonna let ChrisUan go. I think we got one more super chat. I will discuss that for a bit. [1:15:13] Dave: Let's see here. [1:15:16] Dave: The wing at Hussar sent $10. I've not been familiar with ChrisUan's story, so I appreciate him being here today. [1:15:23] Dave: Yes, thank you. And ChrisUan, this is from John Becker, 2394, who sent $25, thank you for the big super chat. You menUoned only watching two or maybe three poliUcal Episode 105 shows. Wouldn't it be ideal to watch some more semi-independent ones, like Sean Ryan or whoever? Just for a broader awareness, keep it up, Dave, great job. [1:15:43] Dave: Yeah, I mean, do you wanna watch the former Blackwater CIA guy, the Sean Ryan show? [1:15:50] Dave: Sean Ryan? Yeah. I mean, I watched some clips. I think that's where I got the stat on the FBI not being serious about the sex trafficking. I don't really watch the show. [1:16:03] Cameron: I'll just look at clips that'll come on my feed. [1:16:09] Cameron: But honestly, I haven't really been in the polling poliUcs much at all. I've been locked in for 2026. I'm trying to get to a whole coin status, you know? Yeah, I know. It's like, Rebecca's not here. We can finally talk about Bitcoin. [1:16:21] Dave: And by the way, there's an angle on the Venezuela thing where people are talking about taking their gold. Well, yeah, sure. They've got like $3, $4 billion worth of gold. Are you aware of how much Bitcoin Venezuela has, ChrisUan? It was like $6 billion, right? $60 billion. [1:16:38] Dave: They have over 600,000 Bitcoin in a wallet [1:16:43] Dave: somewhere in Venezuela. There was a tweet about this. [1:16:46] Dave: Let me see if I can pull this up. We're gonna see the numbers on YouTube just plummeUng. Oh, they're going ader Bitcoin again. [1:16:54] Dave: But there was an interesUng post and like no one's talking about it. This is from some account on X, but Venezuela has over 600,000 Bitcoin. [1:17:06] Dave: It's almost as much as BlackRock and MicroStrategy. It's more than the United States government. So I mean, maybe the silver lining here is that if we confiscate their Bitcoin and turn it into the strategic Bitcoin reserve, maybe I'd be okay with that. But I need to address the Salvadoran quesUon. You know, there's a really interesUng thing too, right? Because I've been watching the rise of Naib Bekele, right? He's the son of PalesUnian refugees, but he's married to a Jewish woman from what I understand. And he is surrounded by Zionist interests to the point that you'll remember early on in the Trump administraUon, they were talking about taking these students that were wriUng pro-PalesUnian opinion pieces in their college newspapers, people like Mahmoud Khalil. They black-bagged him and were threatening to send him to Sikot, which is the big prison down there in El Salvador. [1:18:06] Dave: And also it kind of reinforces this weird alliance [1:18:12] Dave: of Catholic Zionists that we're seeing between the Opus Dei, who's taking money from the Tikva FoundaUon, Paul Singer, and all of these Zionist types down in D.C. And of course, that's aligned with Kevin Roberts from the Heritage FoundaUon, Leonard Leo from the Tenio Network. He's also, I think, involved with the Federalist Society, the people that choose the judges. Episode 105 [1:18:40] Dave: And so there is definitely something going on. These Catholics that should, Catholics should not be Zionists. That they are opposed to one another ideologically. [1:18:53] Dave: We believe that the church is the new Israel. It's what all of the documentaUon say, the church fathers, St. John Chrysostom, all the way back. [1:19:02] Dave: But there seems to be this kind of new wave of Catholic Zionists. And unfortunately, based Bitcoin Bro, dictator Naib Bekele, seems like he's in that camp. What are your thoughts on it? Yeah, it's really weird, [1:19:17] Cameron: especially with like tech people who aren't even Jewish. They're like, you know, a priori pro-Jewish and Israeli, even if they're not Jewish or even ChrisUan. Like Peter Thiel, there doesn't really seem to be any reason why he could or should be pro-Zionist of them has been business interests. [1:19:38] Cameron: Like you said, the Opus Dei people, which I think they're kind of like forward thinking Catholics. [1:19:45] Cameron: And of course they were, Opus Dei was founded [1:19:48] Dave: as a part of anU-communist resistance during the Spanish Civil War. So you'd think that they would be a liNle bit more aware, but you know, you can go all the way back and see Jose Maria Scriva, Saint Jose Maria Scriva, right? They abolish the devil's advocate to make him a saint, but he had very nice things to say about his Jewish friends, which is very weird. And of course, the Pope now, Pope Leo XIV, came out and said that we should be looking at Ukkun olam and taking lessons from that. [1:20:19] Dave: Tikkun olam, of course, is like this Jewish doctrine of healing the world, healing God, as if there was, as if God had some sort of a defect that there was something wrong with him that only the Jews can make right. [1:20:32] Dave: Very, very weird to see those words coming out of the Pope's mouth, but anyway. Well, I think if anything is clear from this administraUon, [1:20:41] Cameron: it's just that poliUcs is very weird to the point where, you know, the intricacies of it are, like I said, beyond my pay grade. Some of the like more macro meta stuff, I'll be happy to analyze, but these like weird Game of Thrones power struggles in DC and New York, it's too much for me, and I don't want to get suicided, so I'm not gonna delve too deep into it. True, yeah, I just, I have a, the switch doesn't work, [1:21:13] Dave: where I'm just like, I'm like a dog with a bone. I'm just like, fuck it, I'm going down and I don't care who gets in the way or who gets exposed, it's preNy funny. ChrisUan, tell people where they can find you, where they can find your work. I know you have an X account, but you said you deleted it, should people be, actually? Oh, that's not even my X account. That's the wrong one. I don't even know what that is. It's J6 ChrisUan. Well, that might be my, yeah, it's just J6 ChrisUan. Episode 105 [1:21:40] Cameron: On X? Yeah, that's the one. But are you even using it at this point? No, I haven't been using it for a few months just because the Zionists took over X and ruined my feed, and ader like a few weeks of that, I just got so frustrated, I deleted it. I was too lazy to mute everybody. [1:21:56] Cameron: And of course, you're also over at counter-currence.com. You do some wriUng over there and our friends over at Antelope Hill have his book, The American Regime. And if you use promo code backlash10, you'll get 10% off. So ChrisUan, thank you so much for joining us today. And one last thing on the American Regime, I believe that the second ediUon, which might be the first or second ediUon that Antelope Hill has ever come out with, that's coming out and it might be tomorrow. Nice, very cool. [1:22:31] Dave: So maybe hold off on buying it Ull tomorrow. We'll give you an update on that on Wednesday. But thank you so much for joining us. It's been a pleasure to talk to you today. Yeah, no problem, thanks for having me. Cheers. [1:22:43] Dave: All right, well, we got through that without blonde. [1:22:49] Guest-1: Very good. [1:22:51] Guest-1: Hold on, let me close that out. [1:22:53] Dave: Geez, doing these solo shows live. This is now the second Ume. [1:22:58] Dave: It's always nerve-wracking. It's nice to have someone there to talk while you're ge_ng all the tech worked out and all the different screens. Anyway, we've got to give a big shout out to our sponsors, Idaho Tallow Company. They've got soap and skincare products with endocrine disruptors. No, without endocrine disruptors. Geez, what am I doing here? They've got soap and skincare products without endocrine disruptors. No unnatural fragrances. They're all natural, holisUc oils. [1:23:33] Dave: I should really sUck to the script on this one. Anyway, you want soap and skincare that won't turn you gay, go to IdahoTallow.com. I know that they're gonna be doing free shipping on orders over $100 in the near future again here soon. So stay tuned for that. We've also got to give a big shout out to atlasbullion.com slash backlash. If you are concerned with the dollar, if you are concerned with hyperinflaUon, which it seems like it's around the corner, poking its head out, you might want to consider stacking gold and silver. And you can do that with our friends at atlasbullion. I actually, I put out a tweet the other day because there was all of this drama going on with Trax NYC. I don't know if you guys have seen that. He's this Jewish guy in the Diamond District of New York. And he has been raising hell on all of these other corrupt people in the Diamond District. A fight broke out. It's been going viral online. I don't know if you guys have seen this or not. But it was interesUng. I went on his website to see, okay, well, you sell gold and silver. What are we talking about here? And so on this Jewish guy's website, he's selling gold bullion, [1:24:53] Dave: a one ounce gold American eagle coin, and he's charging $6,470 for this bullion coin. Episode 105 [1:25:04] Dave: Now, if you visit our friends at atlasbullion for that exact same coin, you would be spending $4,502. So that's about a $2,000 markup. And he's the most honest Jew in the business. So listen, if you need to get gold and silver, visit our friends at atlasbullion, they're not gonna rip you off. Of course, Anna Lope Hill, I think we have shouted them out a lot. We've got above Ume coffee roasters [1:25:37] Dave: who is a big sponsor of the show. And thank you for that. They do small batch coffee, roasted by hand to order. It's not si_ng around on a shelf. It's not ge_ng any kind of, you know, that's a problem with some of the big coffee companies is they'll roast the coffee and then they'll put it on a shelf and it gets moldy. And you don't know, but you're drinking moldy coffee. That's one of the things that [1:26:04] Dave: above Ume coffee roasters does well is the hand-roasted small batch stuff so that you are ge_ng the freshest coffee. I've been drinking it throughout the show. It's absolutely fantasUc. Also got to give a big shout out to ODGG supply. ODGG supply is our preferred source for legit domesUc and foreign military surplus gear that's been proven in conflicts across the globe and ready for your next adventure. The guys at ODGG supply put the gear through its paces so you can count on quality. 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I've got some things that I'll read, but we got, he got me a pipe. Thank you for a pipe. And he got me a pipe case so I can put my fine tobacco products [1:27:42] Dave: in this nice liNle carrying case. So thank you for that, buddy. I will be using this later this week. We also got one of these DJI mics. So Rebecca and I, I think this summer we're gonna try to do some women on the street interviews. And now we're gonna be able to do that with some high quality mics so you can hear what people are saying. Thank you and clips for hanging things in the background. [1:28:10] Dave: These things, they're very necessary for like hanging green screens and doing all kinds of stuff like that. And he also sent us, oh my God, one of these huge lights. [1:28:22] Dave: So thank you very much, Jason. It's very much appreciated. We do sUll have a couple of items on our Amazon wish list, mostly like hard drives. But he said, Happy New Year. Reformed BapUsts are preNy based, but boy does their posiUon regarding God, AKA Tulip paint a hideous picture of God. Are you familiar with this and wish to opine? I don't know, I'm gonna have to Google that. I don't know about Tulip or what that means, but thank you. A pipe set for a Episode 105 modern defender while Rome fiddles enjoy a bowl of the great Spurgeon, a Protestant prince who knew true solace isn't found in sacraments but in scripture, smoke and a stout hearted faith. [1:29:02] Dave: Man, you goNa get up on GK Chesterton. GK Chesterton was a big pipe smoker too. Maybe that's a way that the Catholics and Protestants can come together is our mutual love of pipe smoking. And then he also sent a light stand. He said, for holding down the fort, you Catholics might have beNer aestheUcs, but we Southern BapUsts have the superior theology, even if our own house needs some cleaning. It's a privilege to stand with and support you from Jason. Thank you. And a belated Christmas present to assistant relaxaUon, I guess, Merry Christmas. Our savior is born from Jason. And, you know, speaking of Southern BapUsts, and of course, I'm doing that with the wrong thing on the screen. [1:29:43] Dave: Did you guys see it? I held it up, the light. There's the big light. [1:29:49] Dave: Woo! [1:29:51] Dave: There's a new book that has come out from JD Hall, who we've had on the show. I did a solo interview with him. Lost My Hats on TwiNer. And he just came out with a brand new book [1:30:06] Dave: for those of you in the Protestant sphere. [1:30:10] Dave: The book is called The Hyphenated Heresy, Judeo-ChrisUanity. It's co-wriNen with him and Joel Webin, who's been doing some fantasUc work. It's now the number two best seller in ChrisUan historical theology on Amazon. So we are gonna be working on ge_ng him back on the show for an interview about his new book. [1:30:35] Dave: Let's see, what else? What else are we missing? I think I saw another, somebody rated the stream. What does that mean? I don't know what that means, but thank you for raUng the stream, I guess. [1:30:50] Dave: I have no clue what this is, what is it? [1:30:55] Dave: And let's see, I think that covers all of the super chats that we've goNen so far. Thank you for your support. Yeah, there was a super chat earlier about Sister Lucy. [1:31:07] Dave: There is a website, if you're interested in it, SisterLucytruth.org. [1:31:14] Dave: There is a lot of evidence that the seer of FaUma, Sister Lucy, [1:31:20] Dave: was taken away and replaced with an imposter. [1:31:25] Dave: It's absolutely crazy, a guy named Dr. Pete Hoynowski [1:31:31] Dave: has done all of the work on this. He even got dental records, AI facial recogniUon sodware Episode 105 [1:31:39] Dave: on her face, and they've basically proven that whoever Sister Lucy was is not who was presented [1:31:47] Dave: ader 1960, that this woman disappeared and that the message of Our Lady of FaUma has been obscured. So maybe we'll have to get Pete Hoynowski on the show. He lives here in North Idaho, a friend of mine, so we could do that. But yeah, check out SisterLucytruth.org if you are looking for more informaUon on that. [1:32:09] Dave: And with that, I think that we've covered all of our contractual obligaUons. [1:32:17] Dave: Again, big shout out to ChrisUan for coming on the show and a big shout out to everybody who watched. [1:32:21] Guest-1: I know Blonde wasn't here. She is, like I said, for those of you wondering why I'm doing a solo show, [1:32:29] Guest-1: Rebecca has been stuck in her car for over a day. [1:32:34] Dave: Her kids will not let her leave, they've been napping, and then Grock turned her into an Asian. [1:32:39] Dave: So we'll see if she makes it back on Wednesday. No, I'm kidding, but thank you so much for watching. [1:32:46] Dave: We'll be back on Wednesday with a big interview with James Fishback and, of course, Cameron McGregor, and we will be discussing the Venezuela situaUon. It's absolutely crazy. It looks like we're gonna be hi_ng Cuba and Iran next, so stay tuned, make sure you like the video, subscribe, hit the noUficaUon bell, follow us on TikTok, Instagram, Apple podcasts, and we will see all of you on Wednesday. Bye-bye, thanks.