Episode 11 – January 6th, Birthright Citizenship, and the Fight for Nationalist Resistance

Resistance Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:00:00 ] Welcome to The Backlash, a weekly discussion about the past, present, and future of the Western world. I'm your host, Rebecca Hargraves. You may know me from my channel, Blonde in the Belly of the Beast. This is Dave Riley. Hey, Dave, how are you? How are you doing, Dave? David J. Reilly [ 00:00:14 ] I'm doing great today. Great. Thank you for having me on the show. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:00:17 ] You're welcome. David J. Reilly [ 00:00:18 ] It's a pleasure to be here. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:00:19 ] Vince, how are you? David J. Reilly [ 00:00:20 ] Pretty good. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:00:21 ] Not too bad. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:00:22 ] And Cameron, how are you doing? Cameron MacGregor [ 00:00:25 ] I don't have the flu, so I'm doing great. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:00:27 ] Yes, I feel like I just fell out of a garbage truck. But we're going to make the show happen anyway. Sorry I wasn't there on Monday. My kids, everybody's sick. My husband has the man flu. I'm actually worried my mom might die. David J. Reilly [ 00:00:41 ] Oh, no. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:00:42 ] Yeah, I called her yesterday. She was just like incredibly sick. What do you have? David J. Reilly [ 00:00:46 ] The flu. Just the flu? Like the regular flu? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:00:49 ] Yeah, it kills old people, you know. What? Yeah. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:00:52 ] Yeah, it's like something like 30 or 40,000 people die from the flu every year, right? Really? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:00:57 ] She'll be okay. Keep Mama Blonde in your heart. Don't they have vaccines? David J. Reilly [ 00:01:02 ] Don't they have flu vaccines? Don't get flu vaccines, by the way. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:01:06 ] We're going to be talking about that. We're going to be talking about the mRNA AI, Larry Ellison. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:01:13 ] It pains me to have to discuss so many topical things. David J. Reilly [ 00:01:17 ] Well, Donald Trump is president now. We are drinking out of the fire hose, okay? Do you remember what it was like eight years ago? It's like drinking out of a fire hose. It's crazy. You'll get like 19 blockbuster stories a day, all day, every day, for months on end with like zero reprieve. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:01:34 ] I know, but in my mind, the show was supposed to be about themes, broad themes. And so now I'm like talking about all this inauguration stuff and these hand gestures and Melania's friggin' hat. And I'm like, ugh. This is not what I wanted. It'll change. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:01:47 ] It'll change as time goes on. We're going to have guests on. We're going to have discussions. We’re going to have, you know, this is a less gay version of like, this is going to become the less gay version of all of the top political podcasts out there. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:02:02 ] How can that be possible? Because all of you guys are homosexuals. Whoa. David J. Reilly [ 00:02:06 ] As, as my children in the background are like eating dinner. It's not gay unless you push back. I thought it was if you close your eyes. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:02:15 ] Cam, you were in the Navy. Cam, you were in the Navy. How’s it going? Give us some insight. Don’t ask, don’t tell. That is the policy. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:02:24 ] Should we get right into it? Let’s get right into it. Let’s cover the boring stuff. So these Biden pardons, historic number of pardons, 8,047, I guess, or 8,064 clemency actions. I suppose that none of these were a real surprise. We've got Fauci, Milley. The ones with his family, though, I don't know. Were you guys expecting this? David J. Reilly [ 00:02:48 ] Absolutely. I was. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:02:49 ] It's extensive, though. Were you expecting all of these? Like, his brother, I was like, okay, I don't know. But there's no publicly apparent reason for the pardon of the four other family members. We know that his brother probably purged himself. What do you think about that, Cameron? Like, what do you think that they did or he's trying to prevent? Cameron MacGregor [ 00:03:10 ] Well, the Biden family is a crime family, just like the Clinton family. And I think there's a very real fear among Joe. And remember that going into politics in the United States has been a very lucrative proposition. So it means business deals of all kinds open up to you. It means untoward associations with lots of corrupt organizations, institutions. And Biden has availed himself of all of it, not just his son, but I think his whole family. He did. He took drastic measures to protect himself. Now, we'll have to see if that holds up. I mean, there's always there's always something that you miss, I suppose. But it's just it's confirmation that Biden is a crime family like the Clintons, the Bushes and all the rest. And I think it's an indictment of the entire political class. The sad thing is, I'm not I'm not sure Trump would have done anything anyway. Yeah. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:04:03 ] Yeah, that was going to be one of my questions, especially with Fauci. Are we just relieving Trump of responsibility to go after these people? And I don't really think that he would have done. What was he going to do to Fauci? David J. Reilly [ 00:04:14 ] Well, speaking of Fauci, is that real? The tweet that you sent earlier? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:04:21 ] I have no idea. David J. Reilly [ 00:04:22 ] I need to like I need to pull this up. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:04:23 ] I think right before we went live, I saw a tweet that said that Putin is going to let's see if we can yeah here hold on I it has millions of retweets but I don't that doesn't say anything about um there's no community notes on it. Vladimir Putin is reportedly seeking to have Anthony Fauci extradited to Russia to face COVID-era crimes against humanity charges as part of a deal in the war in Ukraine, this is huge! Vincent James Foxx [ 00:04:49 ] Hover over his profile, hover over his name, who is this guy? David J. Reilly [ 00:04:55 ] Nick V Uncensored podcast on Rumble from England. Maybe this is Tory disinformation. You know, I guess it could be. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:05:03 ] So I haven't confirmed this. I mean, this would be, of course, awesome. David J. Reilly [ 00:05:07 ] I mean, I doubt that it's real, but I doubt that it's real. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:05:11 ] I read that and I was like, that sounds like fake news. Cameron, what do you think? Do you think it's possible this is real? Vincent James Foxx [ 00:05:16 ] No. We wouldn't let him be extradited anyway. Yeah. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:05:21 ] Of course not. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:05:22 ] And let's be honest. Does anything ever happen to these people, like ever? The only thing that happens, like under the Trump administration, a lot of the people in the Trump administration were, you know, facing, you know, jail time or whatever. I could hear that. Sorry. Are we supposed to hear that? No. And we talked about this a few weeks ago, right? This was in order to scare these people into never associating with Trump again or to, you know, they arrested a lot of the Jay Sixers to scare Trump supporters. But that's, you know, that's pretty much it. We never see any politician really ever face the consequences. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:06:00 ] We elected Trump based on lock her up. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:06:03 ] Lock her up. Yeah. Well, I mean, he was elected on immigration, but yeah, that was one of the big things. Lock her up. We're going to arrest you. Never happened. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:06:11 ] That's why I voted for him. I wanted justice. I really thought it was going to happen back then. Retribution. Retribution. Yeah. Speaking of promises versus reality, let's play this clip. David J. Reilly [ 00:06:21 ] Yes. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:06:24 ] Oh, jeez. I teed you up, buddy. I know you did. SPEAKER_6 [ 00:06:27 ] We love this guy. He says, you're not going to be a dictator, are you? I said, no, no, no, other than day one. We're closing the border, and we're drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I'm not a dictator, okay? SPEAKER_10 [ 00:06:37 ] President Trump, there was a lot of concern about this during the campaign. The question that only works today, are you a dictator on day one? SPEAKER_11 [ 00:06:45 ] No, no. I can't imagine even being on it. David J. Reilly [ 00:06:54 ] Promise is made. I don't know. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:06:57 ] He did a lot. I got to say, credit where credit is due. Yeah, he did. Let's talk about these January 6th pardons. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:07:02 ] That's the big one for me. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:07:05 ] Let's play clip two. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:07:08 ] What do we got? Donald Trump signs. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:07:11 ] That second one. This one right here? There we go. David J. Reilly [ 00:07:13 ] There we go. SPEAKER_9 [ 00:07:13 ] Okay, yes, sir. First, we have a list of pardons and commutations relating to events that occurred on January 6th, 2021. SPEAKER_11 [ 00:07:27 ] Okay, and how many people is this? SPEAKER_9 [ 00:07:30 ] I think this order will apply to approximately 1,500 people, sir. SPEAKER_11 [ 00:07:34 ] So this is January 6th. These are the hostages. Approximately 1,500 for a pardon. SPEAKER_9 [ 00:07:42 ] Yes. SPEAKER_11 [ 00:07:43 ] Full pardon. SPEAKER_9 [ 00:07:46 ] Full pardon or commutation? SPEAKER_11 [ 00:07:48 ] Full pardon. We have about six commutations in there where we're doing further research. Nice to see you again. So this is a big one. Anything you want to explain about this? We hope they come out tonight, frankly. They're expecting it. Approximately 1 ,500 people. Six commutations. We're looking at different things, but the commutations would be the ones that we'll take a look and maybe it'll stay that way or it'll go to a full pardon. SPEAKER_9 [ 00:08:38 ] And the order does require the Bureau of Prisons to act immediately on receipt of the pardons and commutation orders. Sir, this is amazing. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:08:46 ] It's hard to not let that hit you right in the feels. Yeah. This second video, too, made my eyes well up with tears. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:08:54 ] Yeah, there's a guy who was walking out of prison, right? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:08:59 ] Mm-hmm. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:08:59 ] Is it this one? No. That's the same one. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:09:02 ] Dad and Daughter. It's the next one. January 6th holds. David J. Reilly [ 00:09:05 ] Hold on a second. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:09:11 ] What? Are my links getting messed up here? Something happened. Anyway, it was a feel-good video about a January 6th. His name escapes me, but he was holding his daughter, and his daughter was saying, Daddy's home. Oh, man. It's all right. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:09:25 ] We'll just have the link itself next time. Hold on a second. I'll pull it up. David J. Reilly [ 00:09:29 ] I've got it right up here. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:09:31 ] Did you retweet it? Yeah. Oh, there it is. Boom. SPEAKER_10 [ 00:09:34 ] Daddy's home. David J. Reilly [ 00:09:36 ] Oh, man. Daddy's home. That's awesome. That one hits you right in the feels. It hits you. It hits you right in the feels. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:09:46 ] He also pardoned Ross Ulbricht. Why did I say that? Ross Ulbricht. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:09:52 ] Ulbricht? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:09:53 ] Yep, founder of Silk Road. He got a life sentence, two life sentences. David J. Reilly [ 00:09:56 ] Two life sentences plus 30 years for crimes that he actually didn't commit as far as I'm aware. From what I understand, Ross Ulbricht, so like he made this decentralized. Uh, there's a website where anybody could sell anything and the currency that they used was Bitcoin. That's actually one of the ways I first heard about Bitcoin was from someone who was on Silk Road and um, they basically charged him with all of the crimes that the users of his platform committed which I thought was like the whole point of Section 230 to give the platform owner immunity from what the people on the platform do. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:10:33 ] And it was a corrupt judge, right? David J. Reilly [ 00:10:34 ] Yeah, it was a corrupt judge. I'm going to have to see if I can get it. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:10:38 ] I remember Nick first talking about this, like he was calling for him to be pardoned a long time ago. I think that's where I first heard of all this stuff. David J. Reilly [ 00:10:49 ] Yeah, that and like the Bitcoin community has been like really, really... Oof, really instrumental. So, this is the judge that actually sentenced him. What was her name? Catherine Forrest. And she sentenced him because he was white. We also had a tweet from Trump today. I called the mother of Ross Ulbricht to let her know that in honor of her and the libertarian movement, which supported me so strongly, it was my pleasure to have just signed a full and unconditional pardon of her son, Ross. The scum that worked to convict him were some of the same lunatics who were involved in the modern day weaponization of government against me. He was given two life sentences plus 40 years. Ridiculous. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:11:32 ] He was in jail for 12 years. Amen. David J. Reilly [ 00:11:34 ] Yes, he was. And then we've got this-it was the first photo of Ross being freed from prison. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:11:40 ] Oh, man. David J. Reilly [ 00:11:40 ] And let me see if I can pull up. This was the judge. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:11:46 ] Sentenced because he was white. The judge who sentenced him gave him life without parole because Ross is white. Catherine Forrest suggested that because of Ross's privilege, she was giving a much harsher sentence than she would give to a drug dealer from the Bronx. David J. Reilly [ 00:12:00 ] This is from the case. It says, there appears to be in some of these articles that were presented to the court some view that there is a moral ambiguity about some of the drug distribution. There is no moral ambiguity about it. It's just wrong. And that is what our democratic process had said, and that there is a way to change the law, but it is not doing what occurred. No drug dealer from the Bronx selling meth or heroin or crack has ever made these kinds of arguments to the court. It's a privileged argument. It's an argument from one of privilege. Do you have an early life check on this? We all know what it means when people start talking about privilege. They're talking about white privilege. Did you just keyword search Jewish? Yeah, any website, just keyword search, control F. Catherine got a big award from the Jewish Children's Museum, which is interesting. It's just interesting. It's interesting to point these connections out. And then, of course, you've got Donald Trump talking about how the same people persecuting Ross were the ones persecuting him. And then we see this woman. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:13:01 ] So, we all know who the main people were involved in the impeachment and all that in the Russiagate nonsense, all of it. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:13:09 ] Let's talk about how he failed. My favorite part. David J. Reilly [ 00:13:12 ] No blackfilling. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:13:14 ] We're going to do some blackfilling. All right. Everybody needs to come down. This is awesome. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:13:18 ] This is a big thing. The release of the political prisoners. I know. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:13:22 ] It might not be that good, though. We'll talk about it in a second. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:13:27 ] Oh, by the way, we have entropy. Entropy stream is up. We found the entropy super chats, and we're going to read those entropies at the end of this stream, the ones that we didn't get to because we couldn't figure out how to get it up. We got it up. Super chat the show. We're going to read all the super chats at the end of the stream. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:13:44 ] And then the two from last week that didn't come through? David J. Reilly [ 00:13:45 ] There was way more than, and it's actually interesting because I can't. This is one of the things that I was like as the intro was going, I was like, oh, no, because we had about 10 or 15 entropy super chats from last week. OK. And when we went live, all of the old ones disappeared. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:14:03 ] I have two. David J. Reilly [ 00:14:04 ] And now the new ones are coming in. I should have screenshotted them before because we're good from now on. We're going to read them. We can read them from now on. But it was a little bit of a learning curve getting that figured out. So anyway, where are we at? What story are we on now? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:14:21 ] Yeah, thanks, guys. Ruining my flow. Totally. To have an on-air tech meeting. What a nightmare. Okay, so he didn't free Snowden. Well, did he promise to free Snowden? But what he should have done also was pardoning the Whitmer kidnappers. Contrary to popular belief, there are some federal charges there. So check out Radix Verum on Twitter. She has been working on a documentary called Kidnap and Kill an FBI Terror Plot. I don't think that she would be mad at me for saying this. She's totally obsessed with this case because it's such a miscarriage of justice. So she's been talking about this a lot on Twitter. I know she needs another round of funding to finish her documentary. That's cool. She's great. So check out her Twitter. You can find out where to send money to the two guys that are still in there, Adam Fox and Barry Croft. Yeah, so check out Radix. He definitely should have done that. Chauvin, I don't know. Well, Chauvin, I mean, I guess we're kind of at the point now. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:15:18 ] Wait, hold on. The Whitmer kidnapping case is something I covered extensively. It's kind of, it's a crazy case because even like liberal news outlets were saying that that wouldn't have happened without the FBI being involved in it. Like BuzzFeed News did a whole piece on it. And they said that. This would have never went down unless the FBI was involved in this. And they said the FBI was involved even down to like purchasing the van. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:15:46 ] Oh, yeah. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:15:46 ] Purchasing the hotel rooms. There were FBI agents and FBI informants all involved. There were like 60% of the people involved were FBI agents or FBI informants. Wow. It's a crazy, crazy, crazy case. One of the main agents involved actually got arrested. And so he had to recuse himself from the case. He got arrested after, you know, this all went down. He got arrested for beating his wife after they went to a swingers party. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:16:11 ] Oh, great. They sound like upstanding citizens. Oh, wait, I heard about this. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:16:14 ] Yeah, you heard about that. I heard about this. David J. Reilly [ 00:16:16 ] Wasn't there somebody else that was, like, waving a dildo around the FBI office that was involved in the case? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:16:21 ] I thought this was a family show. David J. Reilly [ 00:16:22 ] It is, and the people doing that at the FBI should be fired so that I don't have to say it, okay? Vincent James Foxx [ 00:16:27 ] It is a family show. My theory is that, though, she probably did something with a black dude and he got pissed and then he beat her up and then he went to prison over this. I think that's what happened. Pure speculation. Pure speculation, but he beat her up directly after they got home from a swingers party. That's official news. That's incredible. David J. Reilly [ 00:16:47 ] And these are the people in our FBI. These are the people that are currently, like, you know, raising hell about Kash Patel. Like, oh, if you appoint, I just saw a tweet, like, if you appoint Kash Patel, it's going to destroy the FBI. And it's like, you know, maybe the FBI deserves to be destroyed at this point. I don't know. What do they even do? It hasn't worked for 75 years. They've basically been the law enforcement arm of the mafia. So maybe we don't need an FBI. Maybe we can just get rid of them. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:17:14 ] I know you guys are all excited about January 6th. I am excited about it too. This was a miscarriage of justice. I'm glad these guys are out. However, Blackpilled has brought up a very good point. Can you pull up this tweet? Vincent James Foxx [ 00:17:27 ] Devin Stack. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:17:28 ] He has. Is this even a good thing for morale? He says, it's actually not worth it. Nothing is more radicalizing than political prisoners. Ask Hitler or Nelson Mandela. I read that and I was like, ooh. Devin Stack with the hot take. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:17:43 ] I love Devin Stack, but that doesn't make any sense. Cameron, Cameron, what do you think? David J. Reilly [ 00:17:47 ] I don't understand the position. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:17:51 ] Cameron? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:17:52 ] Cameron. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:17:52 ] I didn't hear the question. What do you think about the J6ers being released? Cameron MacGregor [ 00:17:56 ] No, that wasn't the question. The question is: What do you think about this tweet about that? I think it's a great thing. I think it's a great thing. And I think Trump deserves full credit for this one. I was going to say so in just a moment. But I do think that. The main story is missed. And that is if the circumstances were switched, if these were Antifa people or folks on the left, BLM or something like that, that had been arrested, there would have been all manner of nonprofits, of the ACLU, of legal organizations of every kind that would have demanded their release, that would have raised money to get them out. For January 6th folks who've been rotting in there for years, years, and obviously it has been a miscarriage of justice and they have been asymmetrically targeted by the government, to whom could they turn? Well, there is nobody. Now, that's what the right wing lacks. That's why there is no organized right. A miscarriage of justice that it took a president to be elected to actually pardon these people. That is the truth, the true problem here. And I think that's instructive for anybody. That really cares about rebalancing the system, which is something that Trump talked about in his inaugural address. If you don't have those organizational structures in place and you're reliant upon the president to get elected to enact justice, that tells you everything you need to know about the structure of government and how biased it is against us. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:19:32 ] Yes, that's absolutely true. And then the left has the Innocence Project. And at the behest of Kim Kardashian, they're getting people off like Julius Jones, who obviously did it. And Rodney Reed, I think they're taking a look at the Scott Peterson case. It's like, oh, all these people did it. All right, can you guys focus on January 6th or something like that? So the institutional power is there if we can organize on the right and get some funding over there. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:19:55 ] Yeah, all of the inauguration protests, remember Trump's first inauguration? Do you guys remember? I was there. I was there. It was crazy. David J. Reilly [ 00:20:07 ] Yeah, I mean, I was at the Franklin Square riot. They were, like, burning cars. They were ripping up the bricks from the ground and throwing them at cops. They were using dumpsters as, like, shields so that they could, like, you know, do war with the cops. It was a war zone, 100%. I mean, I had, like, grenades, those flashbang grenades going off around me. I don't know if I ever released the video from that. I might just still have all that. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:20:32 ] Shuttershot was there. Remember Shuttershot 45? David J. Reilly [ 00:20:35 ] No. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:20:35 ] You don't remember Shutter Shop 45? No. He has a lot of footage on that. But yeah, I think there was a lot of people. Every single one of them had their charges dropped. They beat up Capitol Police, too. They went against them. There was a mob. I remember seeing this video. There was a mob of Antifa going up against a mob of Capitol Police, and they had flagpoles, and they were beating the Capitol Police with these flagpoles. And every single one of them had their charges dropped. Every single one. And there was, like, millions of dollars in damage. So, you know, this shouldn't even be a question. you know pardoning of these j6ers there should be more there should be more than 1500 i'm not exactly sure how many people exactly got arrested i'd like to know if was joe biggs one of these people that got pardoned he should be pardoned joe biggs got joe biggs got okay good uh the leader of the proud boys um enrique tarrio he got he got pardoned okay good yep uh the oath keepers guy he got he got out right what about uh nick uh what was his name nick he just had a kid He used to work for Milo, I think. Nick Sotor? I forget his last name. But yeah, this tweet from Blackpilled, I love Devin Stack. We should have him on the show. But the thing is that people are forgetting about these people who are locked away. People are forgetting about these people. And eventually, Pete, they would have been completely forgotten. So it's not really radicalizing anyone because as time passes, they're just going to be more and more and more forgotten. I'm glad that Trump released them. And this was one of the things that I was looking forward to in the Trump administration. I said, if he does this and he gets some handle on immigration, it will be a successful presidency. The president is not the guy that's going to give us everything. He's just not. A lot of this stuff that he's doing is going to be undone with the next Democrat president. A lot of the immigration stuff, we have to do it. It has to come from the ground up. A lot of people mistakenly look at a president as a person that's just going to save everyone and save all. That's not how it works here. No other president would have done this. If Marco Rubio got in there, he wouldn't have freed the J6ers. Nope. David J. Reilly [ 00:22:43 ] Ron DeSantis, he wouldn't have freed the JC & JD Vance and not only that but I think that like speaking to Devon's point, the idea of having these people like still locked away as as though that would somehow be radicalizing, I mean I think now the fact that they're out and that they can share their stories and that they can do a speaking tour that they can start a group, start a movement, whatever you know uh after the fact I think that is gonna be more radicalizing. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:23:10 ] This is a clear win for Trump. It pains me to disagree with Devin Stack, but Devin, you're wrong about this. Cameron MacGregor [ 00:23:15 ] Well, the radicalization. comes when people are fully disillusioned with the rule of law and the structure of government. In other words, when trust and faith in the system collapses. Sadly speaking, I think a lot of people are going to take the wrong lesson from this. They're going to say we elected Trump and he enacted justice. But that belies the systemic injustice that we're dealing with on the right and in general in the United States, which basically prioritizes or fetishizes giving special rights to minority groups based on their race or their gender, things of that nature over average white citizens, right? That is built into the legal framework. Donald Trump enacting this decree through presidential executive order does not change that. Only an organized resistance and a complete reorganization of the government can do that. That's what it's going to take. Radicalization is going to come. But it's going to come when that trust, that faith in the system breaks. Right now, it has been restored by Donald Trump. I suspect that when you get further damage to the economy and I think when people realize that one man can't fix everything, that's when you're going to get the realization that we need to actually take action. And we're going to get there. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:24:34 ] Right. And I think that he's done a lot of good stuff, that is it's. A win for all of us, it's all feel-good stuff, of course. January 6 is really important; the DEI stuff is important also, but that's more of a symbolic victory, I think. Like putting all DEI people federal employees on paid leave-I was like, 'All right, like that's great!' That makes me feel good. That's how I know that he's doing this for for the people. How much of an effect is that really going to have? Um, some of this foreign aid stuff was a little bit troubling; there were some... There was some pro-Israel executive orders for sure. David J. Reilly [ 00:25:10 ] There was four or five of them from what I remember hearing about. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:25:15 ] Right. So there's this freezing of foreign aid. I think that this got community noted at some point. Is there a tweet that comes up right after that? There we go. Yeah. This community notes is really funny. President Trump places freeze on all foreign aid for 90 days. The community note says Israel, Jordan, and Egypt may still receive foreign aid. They're included in long-term packages that date back decades and are in some cases governed by treaty obligations. That is true. Some of the biggest recipients of U. S. assistance, Israel, $3. 3 billion a year, Egypt, $1. 5 billion, and Jordan, 1. 7 billion a year, are unlikely to see dramatic reductions as those amounts are included in these long-term packages that date back. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:25:55 ] Do you know why Egypt and Jordan are the number two and number three spots? Because we pay them to keep the peace with Israel. So it's all foreign aid for Israel. It's all foreign aid for Israel, yeah. Basically, yeah. David J. Reilly [ 00:26:07 ] And so I think I'm not looking at a list. No, that's literally it. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:26:10 ] Like, I'm not even. David J. Reilly [ 00:26:11 ] No, yeah, 100%. Cameron MacGregor [ 00:26:13 ] That's true. That's true, Vince. But the second reason is because Egypt is an unstable country and you basically have to have a military authoritarian structure to keep it in place. Jordan's not all that different. But to your point, it is also a backdoor benefit to Israel. But that also tells you that if there's further destabilization in Gaza, that spreads to the West Bank. That further destabilizes Egypt. And if Egypt depends upon us to keep them in power through bribes, as you said, that tells you how delicate the situation is. In other words, they could go from an authoritarian military junta, which is basically what runs the country, to an Islamist Brotherhood revival very, very quickly. And just to be clear, I know this is a bit of a tangent, I think that's exactly what is going to happen. Interesting. David J. Reilly [ 00:27:04 ] Yeah, I mean, we've got one of these EOs that the President signed, lifted the sanctions that have been placed on the radical Kahanist right-wing settlers that were destabilizing the West Bank and obviously attempting to move into Gaza. And as I think I can't remember if it was a part of that EO or if it was a part of another one. But basically, they lifted the restriction on the United States sending one-ton aerial bombs to Israel. So we will now obviously be selling them some some big bombs. And then also in relationship with the lifting of the sanctions on the radical settlers, Trump placed sanctions on the ICC and the ICJ, the International Criminal Court and International Centre of Justice or whatever. Now, like I'm personally against both those as they're globalist organizations. Right. I mean, like imagine. Doing something completely legal in America, and then having the ICJ, like, coming in and being like, 'Hey, we're going to prosecute you for your speech, buddy.' Like, I don't like the ICC. I don't like the ICJ. And I think that a lot of people, frankly, are kind of coping a little bit with the cases that came down where Netanyahu and his clan was found guilty of genocide in Gaza, which is, like, obvious. But the real win would be having that happen in the Israeli courts, not happening, you know, from like a third party. Which would never happen. Globalist, you know, organization. So, I mean, like, it was funny. I was watching one of my favorite podcasts, this Rabbi David Bar Haim and Jonathan Pollard, the traitor. Yeah, I saw that. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:28:46 ] I saw that. David J. Reilly [ 00:28:46 ] And so I watched that like religiously to see what those guys are talking about. And they're on the one hand, like very enthused about the EOs that Trump has signed. But on the other hand, they're like not really pleased with what's going on. They confirmed in that that Donald Trump and Netanyahu are in fact at odds with one another. Trump does not like Netanyahu. I'll pull that clip out and post it on my Twitter later. But one of the interesting things is they were talking about what the solution for Gaza is. And it's sounding very much like we're going to be turning that into the Riviera of the Middle East. So we're going to be putting a big casino in Gaza. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:29:26 ] And look, we have a video along those lines, don't we? Do we? Vincent James Foxx [ 00:29:29 ] I'll have to. We need Indians to run it, though. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:29:31 ] Oh, actually, I don't know that we do. I saw a video of Trump talking about Gaza. Beautiful land. David J. Reilly [ 00:29:37 ] Well, we do. We do have this clip. And this is Donald Trump on Gaza and the ceasefire. SPEAKER_11 [ 00:29:43 ] You can keep the ceasefire in Gaza and conclude the three phases of this deal? SPEAKER_6 [ 00:29:49 ] The President, I'm not confident. That's not our war. It's their war. But — Ms., I apologize. The President, I'm not confident. But I think they're very weakened on the other side. SPEAKER_11 [ 00:29:56 ] The Press: Do you support the two-state solution? SPEAKER_6 [ 00:29:57 ] The President: Gaza — boy, I looked at a picture of Gaza. Gaza is like a massive demolition site. That place is — it's really got to be rebuilt in a different way. SPEAKER_11 [ 00:30:09 ] The Press: Do you plan to help rebuilding Gaza? SPEAKER_6 [ 00:30:11 ] The President: My mind. You know, Gaza is interesting. It's a phenomenal location. On the sea. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:30:18 ] It's just a real estate guy. SPEAKER_6 [ 00:30:20 ] Some beautiful things could be done with it, but it's very interesting. But some fantastic things could be done with Gaza. SPEAKER_11 [ 00:30:31 ] How do you see the future in governance for Gaza? SPEAKER_6 [ 00:30:35 ] Well, it depends. I can't imagine you could have, well, you certainly can't have the people that were there. Most of them are dead. Cameron MacGregor [ 00:30:50 ] This is just reprehensible. This is reprehensible. And Donald Trump should be ashamed of himself for saying what he did. There are tens of thousands of people that are dying, that are disfigured, children who've been killed. And the war that goes on goes on because we permit it to go on. And all he did was grant the Israeli government, his personal animus with Netanyahu aside, whatever arms, whatever military, political, diplomatic resources that the United States can muster at their disposal to continue to prosecute what is a genocide. And his comment on that is that it's good real estate. That maybe you could build a resort because it's beachfront property. That is asinine. And the sad thing is that, as Dave alluded to earlier, we didn't pull out of anything because of the interests of America, because this was an America first agenda. We did so in the name of a foreign power that's butchering two million people. Less than that now in Gaza, and that will almost certainly destabilize the region, as I alluded to a moment ago. This is a humanitarian disaster. And the fact that the president of the United States is supposed to represent us, would speak in such desensitized terms tells you everything you need to know about who's really driving his administration. David J. Reilly [ 00:32:21 ] Fair point. Very fair point. I think you're right. I think you're right. I don't think anything should be done with Gaza. And I think I said this on Twitter. I don't think anything should be done with Gaza without the consent of the Palestinians that live there. Of course. Like, obviously, like if Trump does want to go in with the Saudis or the Emiratis or whatever, and they want to like, you know, pour a bunch of money in and start developing it. That's fine by me as long as the Palestinians sign off on it. Because it's their country and they should have autonomy. They should be in control of their future. They have not been in control of their future for 75 years, much like the Americans haven't been in control of their destiny for the past 75 years. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:33:03 ] They're not going to be awarded national sovereignty under the Trump administration, though. And I think that that needs to be the focus of the inauguration. And what about this executive order he signed to deport students that supposedly support Hamas? David J. Reilly [ 00:33:16 ] Bro, what are you doing? This is ridiculous. Here, we got it up. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:33:21 ] Trump signs executive order permitting the deportation of foreign students who express support for organizations like Hamas or Hezbollah viewed as domestic terrorists. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:33:31 ] How about we just deport all foreign students? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:33:33 ] Yeah, why do we have any foreign students? Vincent James Foxx [ 00:33:35 ] Why do we even have foreign students? David J. Reilly [ 00:33:37 ] Right. And it's a good point, especially because the Trump administration has been on record talking about how they want to staple green cards to the backs of people's diplomas. And so what winds up inevitably happening with a system like that is that these colleges become these diploma mills and immigration mills where all of these, that's how they're going to funnel into the country. It's not going to stop immigration. It's just going to enrich the schools that participate in those programs that not only take the federal money, but then they take all of the egregious, egregious tuition fees and student loans. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:34:19 ] It's crazy. David J. Reilly [ 00:34:20 ] I mean, I remember when I was in college, it was $50,000 a semester. So like a hundred grand a year. And that was, you know, 15 years ago. So I'm sure it's only gotten worse. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:34:31 ] Well, a lot of the foreign students can pay cash, right? They can pay. And so a lot of these, actually the F-1 visas are sort of a bigger racket than the H-1B visas because there's like 500,000 F-1 visas every single year. And there's a lot of colleges that are just created on the foundation of this F-1 visa scam. So there's a couple of colleges that actually, I think the Barack Obama administration. I think their immigration agents raided, there was one college, this was back when it was the INS before ICE, and there was this one college that was basically, I think 50% of their students were on foreign visas, and they were paying cash, they were paying for the entire tuition, and they had to have employment under the student visa, and so they just worked at 7-Eleven. Most of them were Indians. And yeah, I mean, so there's I think it was Temple. I can't remember what the college was called or what the university was called. But a lot most of these students only went to class twice a day or twice a week. And they were and they were remote. They were going to they were going to school remotely. And so it's like a total, total scam, total racket. We shouldn't even have any of this. David J. Reilly [ 00:35:45 ] And so, again, this is this is what they want to do to students that criticize this. Yeah. Right. This is what Israel did to Gaza. So I'm going to zoom in a little bit. That's just incredible. Cameron MacGregor [ 00:36:01 ] Donald Trump proclaimed that he was a champion of free speech. He's talked about that before. And obviously he's not because this is the reason why these students are in trouble. Is because they are calling attention to what is almost certainly a genocide and a war that the United States is subsidizing on behalf of a foreign power to kill tens of thousands of people, as I said a moment ago. It’s not because the student The foreign student aid program or foreign students in general is out of control, though it certainly is. Vince is correct about that. But yet again, that has nothing to do with it. This is all about being subservient to a foreign power. So those of you out there that are that are fixated on the notion that Donald Trump is going to prioritize or reprioritize America's interests. It’s transparently clear that that is not the case. Yes. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:36:52 ] And this executive order on the students and free speech was totally eclipsed by what he did with TikTok, which was just an extension of the 75 days. And everybody's freaking out about that. I think that he very successfully garnered support within the youth and Gen Z. But it's not like that's going to be a free speech platform anyway. David J. Reilly [ 00:37:13 ] And there are already, I don't know if we have a link to it, but there are already. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:37:16 ] Free Palestine now banned from TikTok. Okay. David J. Reilly [ 00:37:18 ] Where is this? Vincent James Foxx [ 00:37:20 ] There was a, there was a, oh, there it is. David J. Reilly [ 00:37:27 ] So if you say 'Free Palestine', you will get banned or the comment removed from TikTok. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:37:33 ] It's now considered hate speech automatically removed. Wow. Look at that. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:37:38 ] That's amazing. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:37:39 ] Yep. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:37:40 ] I wonder what's going to happen after the 75 days if someone's going to be able to buy it. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:37:44 ] I bet Musk will. David J. Reilly [ 00:37:46 ] I think there have been several offers. I think even Rumble might have put in an offer. Where are they getting so much money from, Rumble? Rumble's getting it from Howard Lutnick through Tether, right? We talked about him on our last episode. Howard Lutnick, of course, was the CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald, who holds all of the treasuries for Tether and is also a major investor in a company called Satellogic, which is like a global worldwide spy satellite image thing. And what's interesting too is, and we might get to it later, some of the same ties. Between Howard Lutnick and Satellogic are also involved in a story that we're going to cover coming up about these mRNA vaccines. Oh, Oracle and Palantir. So we'll get to there later. But, you know, it's just I was going to say it's also. Cameron MacGregor [ 00:38:37 ] Don't forget Howard Lutnick's involvement in APAC, too. David J. Reilly [ 00:38:40 ] Well, and I was going to say, speaking of APAC. Don't forget. Speaking of APAC, you know, the guy that apparently got this ceasefire deal put together, Witkoff, right? He is now on the outs with the Israel lobby. They don't like him. They don't like the ceasefire. They don't like the hostage agreement. In fact, they're incredibly pissed about it. They think it's a massive L. And according to journalist J. Arthur Bloom, this is how the Israel lobby really works and why it should be subjected to existing U. S. laws and foreign influence, because Sagar and Jetty were talking about this whisper campaign that's spreading through D. C. against Steve Witkoff for negotiating the ceasefire deal. And I can confirm that, you know, they are not happy about this. Of course, they're not. They're definitely not happy. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:39:30 ] Because they just want to completely destroy Gaza and annex the land. David J. Reilly [ 00:39:34 ] There was something called the General's Plan, I think, that they came up with, and that included shutting off the water, shutting off the food supply, shutting off all aid, and then basically, like, starving everybody in Gaza to death. Like, I shit you not, that is exactly what their plan was, and they're upset that they weren't able to carry that out under the Biden administration. And now, with this ceasefire deal, They're stuck. They don't really, where can they go from here? Other than obviously sabotaging the ceasefire deal, which they'd already done for eight months. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:40:01 ] People don't understand the level of how crazy this is. In 1948, fewer people died in the Nakba than how many died during this. David J. Reilly [ 00:40:14 ] People don't even know what the Nakba is. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:40:15 ] We don't even call it a war. It's just a complete genocide. Yeah, people don't even know what the Nakba is. Right. David J. Reilly [ 00:40:20 ] People don’t know what the Holodomor is. I'm sure our astute audience does, in fact, know about the Holodomor and the Nakba and the major genocides that have taken place in the world over the past 150 years. This is their plan. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:40:33 ] And Syria is connected. They've been trying to get Syria for a long time. They weren't successful because Russia was protecting Syria. Now that Russia's weakened somewhat, they were able to get Syria. They tried to get Syria under the Barack Obama administration. They tried to get it under the Trump administration. David J. Reilly [ 00:40:50 ] Operation Timber Sycamore, right? Vincent James Foxx [ 00:40:51 ] There was a lot of these CIA operations. Yeah, they tried to fund the rebels to— overthrow Bashar al-Assad. Remember the chemical attack bullshit that they did? The white helmets. And Iraq was part of this. Afghanistan's part of this. We just talked about how Egypt and Jordan are part of this since the Six-Day War, even before that. Iran is the final boss. So here you go, Trump appointees who want to avoid a war with Iran. Iran is the final boss. This is the final piece to the puzzle. These were the countries that were listed on these memos that were going throughout Washington, D. C. back in the late 90s. We talked about the clean break memo, I think, a few weeks ago as well. This was the plan. And, of course, they're going to be upset about it because they're not able to complete this step to the plan. SPEAKER_11 [ 00:41:46 ] Right. David J. Reilly [ 00:41:46 ] And, in fact, I think that — Go ahead, Dave. Cameron MacGregor [ 00:41:49 ] I'm sorry. David J. Reilly [ 00:41:49 ] No, I was just going to say that I think they're starting to view Trump as a potential obstacle. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:41:54 ] To those goals, well, they did in 2016 for sure, yeah. The there was a revamp to the project for a new American century that was that they tried to do in 2017. Bill Crystal one of the main main seed funders of this was Paul Singer right and so they were trying to do like another project for a new American century which is where the Clean Break memo originates from and they said, I think there was there was an article from Vox or something where Bill Kristol said, we can't do this while Trump is in office. Like, it's not going to work. We have to put it on the back burner. Cameron MacGregor [ 00:42:28 ] Interesting. David J. Reilly [ 00:42:29 ] Sorry, Cam, did you have? Cameron MacGregor [ 00:42:31 ] Yeah, no, I was just going to say, look, this is not over, okay? So I'm not sure what the particulars were or are negotiated between Witkoff and the Netanyahu government. Remember, Netanyahu has some domestic trouble as well. He's facing some corruption charges. And so the war must go on. But the population in Israel, from what I gather, has rendered a judgment, and they want Gaza wiped or annexed. They want the population there killed or expelled. So this is going to resume. Now, Netanyahu has a history of pissing off American presidents. He did not get along with Barack Obama, for instance. Supposedly, according to Politico, there were shouting matches between Netanyahu and Biden, as an example. That doesn't matter because of AIPAC. That doesn't matter because of Howard Lutnick. That doesn't matter because of all of the oligarchs in the United States that wield tremendous power. So I say all that to say this. What has happened over the last few days, the supposed ceasefire is unsustainable. It will not hold up. The only break that the United States can make with Israel to stop all of this is to cease and desist from providing them with arms or military support. We have done neither. Until you see that, there will be no change in policy on their end at all. So regard this as a temporary reprieve. The other thing to note is that it may be the case that I think it is the case that the Israelis view Iran as the final boss. I think that's a good way to look at it, Vince. But it is not the final boss in reality. What is actually happening is a broader arrangement of Islamic countries that are rising against Israel and I mentioned this to you guys before: Turkey now being in Syria is basically an Islamist state adjacent to Israel. That was a strategic blunder on their part. And there's already friction between those two countries. There may also be some backroom deals between the Iranians and the Turks. Remember, the Turks are also close to the Russians who are signing some kind of military agreement with Iran. So not all is what it seems. However, what is absolutely certain is that Netanyahu. And the Mithrahi, the fundamentalists in Israel who are dominating Israeli politics right now, will not rest until Gaza is destroyed and the West Bank will be next. That's where we're headed. Trump will not stop that. SPEAKER_11 [ 00:44:57 ] That is bleak. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:45:00 ] Not good. Did you see Zelensky also call for U. S. troops to be alongside them on the front lines recently? Great. David J. Reilly [ 00:45:06 ] We can send the transgender out. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:45:07 ] Yeah, awesome. I like it. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:45:10 ] Take care of two problems at once. That's the only reason. I think it was the someone, was it the, I saw this on Twitter, I think it was the Iranian, some politician in Iran tweeted out that the only reason why, I mean, this is obvious, right? The only reason why Israel is lasting as long as it is is because of the U. S. giving them all of the weapons that we give them, right? So without the U. S. support, just like, with Ukraine, you know, there wouldn't be so many lives lost. So those lives are like on our backs, right? Those thousands of Palestinians are on us. The thousands of Russians and Ukrainians dead, they're on us. And that's, you know, that's the way to look at it. That's the way I look at it. Cameron MacGregor [ 00:45:58 ] This is the issue, right? And this is the epicenter of everything that we discussed. I mean, for those of you listening, this is why we called this show The Backlash. What is the real daylight between Biden and Trump? Well, maybe there is some on immigration. We'll have to see. Maybe there is some on the economy. We'll have to see. Where there is absolutely no daylight whatsoever is our relationship with Israel and our posture vis-a-vis the Russians and all the overseas enemies that the Zionists have so picked for us. That remains intact. So, what you get, more or less, is continuity. Now, why is that? Because what we're up against is machine politics, the machine politics of AIPAC. And as far as I can tell, all they really did was switch sides from the left to the right. So they have even more carte blanche as far as I'm concerned with the Trump administration than they did under Biden. David J. Reilly [ 00:46:53 ] Well, that's not good. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:46:56 ] He did do a few more things that I think were probably symbolic, although may have more. May have more meat on the bone than I'm anticipating. He withdrew from the World Health Organization. Well, this was part of an executive order. So I think that this was a nod to the people. I'm not really sure that this is going to have many implications. Nonetheless, I'm still happy about it. One of the things that he did do that made me very happy was the backpaying soldiers that were let go for not getting the vaccine. This is going to cost the federal government hundreds of millions of dollars. Good. Yeah. Good. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:47:32 ] Fire. Maybe they'll fire some more IRS agents or something. Yeah. Well, isn't he getting rid of the IRS altogether? David J. Reilly [ 00:47:38 ] We're replacing it with the ERS, the external revenue service. I don't know. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:47:42 ] Listen, if. It's not going to happen. But if it ever does happen where he gets rid of the income taxes, that would be awesome. David J. Reilly [ 00:47:48 ] I was going to say, there's like a lot of hopium going around. There's like a lot of like, oh, he's proposing this or he's proposing that. Just like, just remember, wait until it's signed. Wait until it's been delivered and keep his feet to the fire because he is, I mean, Trump is responsive to the base, it does seem like. I mean, like the Russell-Bricht pardon was way out there. The January 6th pardon, nobody else would have done that. And so I think that we do still have a certain amount of power. We have a lot of power. To pressure him, to be loud, to use our platforms when we can. But it's a mixed bag. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:48:24 ] I'd rather have a leader who was ideologically oriented and had a moral center, which he clearly lacks. He's a populist. His ego and his narcissism are controlled by whether or not the base likes and accepts him. Why did he do these things? Do I really believe that he did them because he believes that these were miscarriages of justice and he wants to do these things for the people? No, because of everything that we just talked about. With Gaza and Israel, because nothing else really matters to me right now. I understand that you guys want to take successes as they come, but there has to be a healthy balance with realism for what is to come or everybody is going to be crestfallen when he inevitably does not deliver, which is why I wanted to talk about this mRNA vaccine thing. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:49:07 ] Well, hold on, hold on. With the EO, what were you just talking about right now? The backpacking soldiers? Withdrew from the World Health Organization. The soldiers. Oh, yeah. So the thing is, is that with, man, I'm just, I totally just completely forgot what I was going to say. Never mind. Just move on. Just move on. Just move on. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:49:36 ] No, it's okay. This mRNA vaccine thing leads me to believe that there was, this is part of a broader. COVID-related scheme and that all of his overtures with Fauci, and all this other stuff is um a cover because he's going to get paid out for these future mRNA vaccine projects. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:49:57 ] This isn't tinfoil at all, oh hold on, hold on, I know I remember I was gonna say so the only reason do you remember when J6 first happened, when January 6th first happened? Everyone, all of the Republican politicians were totally like bashing them and like going along with the left, going along with it. So it was us. Right. It was us that that sort of like normalized this position of they should be released. Right. We sort of we fought and we never stopped fighting to normalize that position because it wasn't like no one. It was like totally unheard of when this first when this first happened. There was no Republican politicians that were ever talking about letting them out. They were all like, yeah, hang them, hang them, hang them. Well, it's because we had the moral courage to fight for this that it was normalized and that it got done. And it's the same thing we talk about on the show all the time. It's the moral courage, right? If you have the moral courage and you continue on with that moral courage, then you will eventually win that battle. We did it with abortion. With Roe versus Wade. That was the only thing that Republicans held on to was abortion. And then they got it done. They got a big win on that. Everything else they completely let go of. So it's those things that we believe or that you should believe as a conservative, as a Christian, that you should hold on to and you should fight for no matter how unpopular it becomes. Because eventually it will become the majority of opinion. And it will be normalized, and we will win. No, I agree. David J. Reilly [ 00:51:35 ] Look at what just happened. He banned the gay and the trans flags from being displayed on the buildings. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:51:43 ] Yeah, I don't know why he did it. He had the one flag policy executive order. I don't know what that was. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:51:47 ] That's purely a symbolic victory, though. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, the one thing that I'm not going to let go of is Zionism in. in the American government. And that is so baked into the cake that I just can't take any of these other wins. But that has to come from us. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:52:02 ] That has to come from the ground. Like, people have to start to-there's this theory. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:52:05 ] I've got high hope for Barron. Yeah, Barron Trump. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:52:08 ] There's this theory that, it's called the 10% theory, I think. I don't remember what the exact theory is called. But if 10% of the population believes something to be true, then eventually the majority of the population is eventually going to adopt that position. So if we just keep going, and as Cameron talks about all the time, as things begin to, as the dissolution continues and people have no faith left in the institutions at all, eventually this will happen. So we just have to keep fighting, keep pushing. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:52:45 ] Agreed. mRNA vaccine is a misnomer, though. I shouldn't say that. David J. Reilly [ 00:52:49 ] We have a video of Larry Ellison talking about this mRNA vaccine. Let's play that first. Let's get this up here. SPEAKER_2 [ 00:52:57 ] Once we gene sequence that cancer tumor, you can then vaccinate the person, design a vaccine for every individual person to vaccinate them against that cancer. And you can make that vaccine, that mRNA vaccine, you can make that robotically, again, using AI in about 48 hours. So, imagine early cancer detection, the development of a cancer vaccine for your particular cancer aimed at you, and have that vaccine available in 48 hours. This is the promise of AI and the promise of the future. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:53:35 ] Wow, what could possibly go wrong? What could possibly go wrong with that? I saw that and I was like, no! This is like a future that I'm in. Well, they're going to be misdiagnosing people with cancers that they don't have so that they have to adopt this mRNA vaccine. And they're going to make hundreds and hundreds of millions and billions of dollars. That's what's going to happen here. David J. Reilly [ 00:54:00 ] Now, of course, Larry Ellison, the guy who we just saw in that video. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:54:05 ] Well, there's something before this, though. David J. Reilly [ 00:54:07 ] Is there? Vincent James Foxx [ 00:54:08 ] Is there not? Larry Ellison, AI, mRNA vaccine. That was what we just watched. That was what we just watched. Okay, okay, yeah. David J. Reilly [ 00:54:18 ] And so Larry Ellison is a, you know, he is CIA. He is NSA. He runs Oracle, which is-I thought I had that up there, but I thought I put that in the thing. Oracle is the backbone, basically, of the NSA's-Spying software. And of course, he goes on. There's some videos where he's talked about the amount of intelligence that is gathered through like American Express and Visa and like where you spend all of your money. It's right there. Oh, is it? Oh, OK. So maybe there was a tweet from Vince. Oh, there we go. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:54:51 ] OK. OK. David J. Reilly [ 00:54:53 ] Yes. Vince, take it away. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:54:55 ] Yeah. Oracle started as a CIA project. It gets its name from the 1977 CIA operation with the same code name. And up until I think the early 2000s, Oracle's very first customer was the CIA. And it's the same story with Palantir. And this is Larry Ellison's Oracle. I think he was ousted from Oracle at first. I don't know if he's back actually with Oracle again, but I remember him being ousted from Oracle. These are the people that you do not want in your administration. You don't want them anywhere near your administration. You don't want them anywhere near the government. This is the CIA. This is the deep state that Trump promised to fight against. David J. Reilly [ 00:55:41 ] And it's worse than that because if this is the CIA, then let's see what the CIA is actually saying behind closed doors. Let's take a look. SPEAKER_2 [ 00:55:52 ] The renewal of the Jewish state is something that I think touches all of us. For 2,000 years, we were a stateless people. And now we have a country of our own, defended by all the brave men and women of the IDF. So anything we can do to support them, who devote their lives preserving the state of Israel, keeping the people safe. And allowing our state to continue sometimes in very, very difficult situations. I have been to Israel. I have been to the border. I have spent time with the people who govern the state of Israel. And I feel a deep emotional connection to the state of Israel and the Israeli people. SPEAKER_10 [ 00:56:42 ] You are an AIPAC person. What do you think about Israeli startups and AIPAC phenomena? SPEAKER_2 [ 00:56:48 ] Oh, well, you know, after Silicon Valley, there's an area, Herzliya has probably got more startups than any other place other than Silicon Valley in Northern California. So we've actually acquired a number of Israeli companies. We have two CEOs at Oracle. One's name is Safra Katz, and she was born in Israel. So, again, we love the country of Israel, and we'll do everything we can to support them. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:57:18 ] Are they trying to kill everybody? Is that what's happening here? Vincent James Foxx [ 00:57:21 ] I don't know what's going on here. David J. Reilly [ 00:57:23 ] The guy that runs the NSA and the CIA's backbone is also an AIPAC guy, as admitted in that video. And his sole focus seems to be on the renewal of Israel. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:57:36 ] And he wants us to take mRNA vaccines to cure cancer. Perpetuated by AI into the blood of every single person that we say has cancer. This is crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:57:48 ] I will say something, though. Actually, can you go back to that thread? I will say something, though. The AI in the medical industry is. Kind of a good thing. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:58:00 ] It could be. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:58:01 ] If you look at the rate at which they screw up in terms of detecting things and MRIs and CAT scans and x-rays and things like that, it's astronomical. It's very, very, very high. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:58:17 ] AI will be useful in robotic surgeries, too. There are a lot of applications for it. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:58:21 ] In fact, I think that when we talk about medical mistakes, medical— people that die because of medical mistakes. Medical malpractice. Medical, you know, it's like something like 200 ,000 people a year. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:58:35 ] Because of user error and things like that. Because of errors. Vincent James Foxx [ 00:58:38 ] Medical errors. That's the word I was looking for. That's the term I was looking for. Thank you. So AI in terms of, you know, having a second pair of eyes on MRIs and CAT scans and x-rays. That's a good thing. What he's talking about with mRNA vaccines and the fact that it's Oracle, that it's Oracle, it was created by the CIA. You can look this up. There's mainstream articles about this. It was created by the CIA. It's just like Palantir. They got their funding through In-Q-Tel, which is a CIA venture capital firm. And we have this guy. So somewhat close to the Trump administration, like this is not these are not the people that you want. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:59:23 ] Cameron, are we drawing conclusions where there are none? Cameron MacGregor [ 00:59:28 ] So I didn't catch that. I'm sorry. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:59:30 ] Are we drawing conclusions? Are we being tinfoil? Is there nothing here? Cameron MacGregor [ 00:59:33 ] Look, Dave's point. Dave's point is the right point. Right. It's not that any of these actions, executive orders. Well, some of these executive orders obviously are. are antithetical to the interests of the United States, obviously the ones that favor Israel. But it's not so much that artificial intelligence or that any of these companies involved in the government are bad. It's the people that are directly in charge. It's the elites. Look, the premise of Donald Trump as a transformative revolutionary candidate is that a system can save itself, that if you change the figurehead of a corrupt decadent backward institution or organization that all of a sudden everything will change. That's the mirage that Donald Trump represents. It's worth noting that right behind the president's during Trump's inaugural address sat Miriam Adelson. Right behind him. Miriam Adelson is probably the most important donor of the Trump administration re-election campaign. In other words, we have not had a turnover of government. It's continuity because the elites that dominated the Biden administration are basically the exact same elites that dominate Trump's administration. Again, this is where we're headed. Trump is just a mirage. He does not represent transformative change. To the extent that Trump is untoward, I don't think he is. I don't think Donald Trump is untoward. I think he is sincere. In some of these efforts, but Donald Trump is overwhelmed by a system that doesn't represent him, and it's noteworthy that if you go back and look at Donald Trump's speech, which I did, I went back and read through it, and it's very sort of confused and it doesn't have a clear sort of flow, which is reflective of Trump himself. He states at the outright he says the government is dysfunctional, can't handle basic crises. He says that in his speech. He's exactly right. And then he says, 'I'm going to use that very same government to solve all your problems and make America the greatest country in the world.' That doesn't make any sense. And that's the problem with Donald Trump. This is exactly what bedeviled him in his first term. He had to fight the government himself first before he could do anything else. As far as I can tell, Donald Trump has not learned that lesson whatsoever. All he's done is accepted that the elites are in control. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:01:53 ] Yeah, and I think that this is best evidenced in his immigration executive orders. I hate to dump on everybody. I know that we're experiencing a lot of hope. And by we, I mean you guys in the audience. Why? I mean, I'm hopeful for the reason that Cameron is hopeful. I have no hope in the Trump presidency. So nowhere have I seen people as delusional as I have with these immigration executive orders. Let's go through these a little bit if you want to pull up this link. Yeah. Excuse me. I have a link of executive orders. This one, yeah. Yeah, you got it from Axios. David J. Reilly [ 01:02:29 ] Boom. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:02:30 ] Okay, so Trump declares national emergency at Mexico border. Would you mind reading this? Sorry, I got a cough for a second. David J. Reilly [ 01:02:34 ] Yeah, not a problem. Trump declared a national emergency at the Mexico border. Trump designated certain international cartels and organizations such as Terran de Aragua and MS-13 as foreign terrorist organizations and announced his plans to invoke the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 against them. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:02:53 ] He's resettling the 16,000 Afghans, and then he's terminating all categorical parole programs that are contrary to the policies of the United States. Okay, he's also doing the Remain in Mexico policy, which we're familiar with. David J. Reilly [ 01:03:05 ] Um, from his previous term and then what everybody's talking about is Trump birthright citizenship executive order, we have a video um on this one, the mic it doesn't matter how much you turn away from the mic it still picks it up, I'm sorry, I know we need like a button and also I need you to cue up the next clip when the camera's on us not when it's on the uh, I'm sorry, it's okay, we're learning, and you're uh, you're dealing with. SPEAKER_9 [ 01:03:34 ] This next order relates to the definition of birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment of the United States. SPEAKER_6 [ 01:03:39 ] That's a good one. Birthright. That's a big one. David J. Reilly [ 01:03:43 ] What about that one? That one is likely to be. SPEAKER_6 [ 01:03:46 ] Could be. I think we have good ground, but you could be right. I mean, you'll find out. It's ridiculous. We're the only country in the world that does this with birthright, as you know. And it's just absolutely ridiculous. But, you know, we'll see. We think we have very good grounds. Certain people have wanted to do this for decades. SPEAKER_9 [ 01:04:11 ] Sir, this is a proclamation declaring a national emergency. All right. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:04:15 ] Okay, so this is immediately going to get knocked out. It already is. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:04:18 ] The courts are already challenging it. Yeah, they're already challenging it because of the Wong Kim Ark case. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:04:22 ] They started challenging it as soon as he finished signing it. Yeah, so I don't have a lot of hope for this. What I really am most worried about is that I'm not really sure that this matters because Trump has said so much stuff about legal immigration. We have this Kash Patel clip of, towards the end there, of the American dream belongs to the entire world. But first, Trump also was talking about there will be tons of legal workers coming for new jobs. It's next page. Next page. Sorry, buddy. In the green. SPEAKER_6 [ 01:05:04 ] I'm fine with legal immigration. I like it. We need people. And I'm absolutely fine with it. We want to have it. We need it because we're going to have a lot of companies coming in to avoid tariffs. You know, if you don't want tariffs, all you have to do is build your plant in the U. S. So we're going to have a lot of workers coming in. But we have to have legal. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:05:27 ] Yeah, I mean, I'm not super hopeful about this birthright citizenship thing. We're going to have all these legal immigrants, just a slew of them. And then this I found particularly distasteful. Kash Patel talking about the American dream belonging to the entire world. SPEAKER_7 [ 01:05:41 ] I am living the world's American dream. I am the son of lawful immigrants. We worked our tails off just like you all do. And I'm going to make you a deal. I promise you I will never quit on your children. I will never quit on their children because this American dream does not belong to me. It does not belong to them. This American dream belongs to the world. Belongs to the whole world. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:06:02 ] It belongs to the whole world. So, OK, we're going to deport. How many Mexicans a day? 300 a day? David J. Reilly [ 01:06:09 ] We had 308 yesterday, I believe, that were deported. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:06:14 ] Arrested is different, right? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:06:16 ] Yeah, but there's a Vince tweet on this. 300 a day, scroll up. David J. Reilly [ 01:06:20 ] Is there? Vincent James Foxx [ 01:06:21 ] Yep. Oh, there we go. David J. Reilly [ 01:06:23 ] We did the math. We did the math. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:06:25 ] We did the math. David J. Reilly [ 01:06:25 ] And it's not going to happen. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:06:27 ] And he got banned by the calculator. Six million divided by 91 years. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:06:32 ] If we're deporting 308, it'll take 91 years to deport even just the 10 million that crossed under. Joe Biden and 300 a day is kind of like they were arrested. Right. So it's like a lot of people say Barack Obama deported more people than anyone. But really, when you look into it and I looked into this, I did a whole show about this. A lot of them were didn't even lead to ERO removals. They didn't even lead to the removal of these people. So there's a difference between an arrest and an actual removal of the person. And so to to deport even the 10 million that crossed under Biden, it would take you would have to have a lot more than 300 a day. I didn't do the math on this. But they say that it's logistically impossible. They say it's impossible. We can't deport all these people. Of course they can't. We can't do this with this many agents. The Germans figured out a way to cremate 6 million people with only two crematoriums in two years. You would think that tech would be better. And I'm not saying we should cremate them. I'm just saying somehow they figured out how to. Gas and cremate. Six million people. With two crematoriums. It's a tragedy. You would think that we can deport 10 million. We can't deport 10 million people. That was 100 years ago. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:07:47 ] We need to deport 40 million people. David J. Reilly [ 01:07:49 ] There are, well, so I've been hearing the numbers all over the place, right? Like there was, I remember like, was it 15, 20 years ago? It was 20 million. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:07:57 ] It was 11 million from like 1990 to 2018. They still say 11 million. David J. Reilly [ 01:08:02 ] They still officially say, I think, 11 million. And then we had Trump come out and say like 20 million. And then we had other people come out and say 40 million. I've been seeing tweets that it's 80 million. I don't know how many million it is, but at least 10 million of these people have got to go. At the very least. And we've got 6,000 Customs Border Patrol agents or ICE agents. How many do you think we need? 6,000. Well, I think we need at least 100,000 agents. I think we need at least 100,000. That would be so awesome. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:08:35 ] What do the American people want, though? David J. Reilly [ 01:08:37 ] There is a way. Ah, it doesn't show it. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:08:42 ] Actually, you know, Harrison Smith had a really good idea. I don't know if you saw his clip on this. No. Harrison Smith. No, I didn't. He said, if you just, you tell him, you basically make an announcement. You say, we'll give you free trips back to your home country. Like, all expenses paid. We'll put you on good flights. You know, we'll pay for your hotels or whatever back there. And take these flights. If you don't, we're going to put you in work camps. Okay. I love it. And it's just an announcement. It doesn't cost anything. Right, right. You can just say that. I mean, the flights. David J. Reilly [ 01:09:14 ] You can just say things, you know. Just say things. You can just say things. But what I was going to point out is that there may be a mechanism that I want all of the people that watch this show to take under consideration, bring it home with you, and that is ICE's 287G program. And this is a way for people to get your local sheriff, your local law enforcement. To create a mutual operating agreement with ICE and your local sheriff's department can actually start that process of deporting them, of housing these illegal aliens and getting the ball rolling, right? So if we only have 6,000 ICE agents, if we can start relying on like the sheriffs to start picking up some of that workload. Well, then all of a sudden, you know, we don't need to, you know, radically expand funding for ICE. You know, we can just rely on the local and state law enforcement. So the 287(g) program is something that should be looked into because even in Idaho, I was seeing Senator Brian Lenny. Did you hear about this? Senator Brian Lenny's family was hit by a car while they were driving by an illegal alien. The Idaho State Police let the illegal alien go. No driver's license, no registration, no insurance, and they let him go after he hit this family. So my point is that this is something that everybody can do. We can all write an email to our sheriff, place a phone call, put some pressure. You know, promise some campaign donations. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:10:54 ] Email your whole state legislature. Yeah. David J. Reilly [ 01:10:56 ] Do it all in one email. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:10:57 ] Because there is widespread support for this policy. Yes, there is. Let's bring up. Yeah. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:11:02 ] Is it like 50-something percent or. SPEAKER_1 [ 01:11:04 ] We have a video on this. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:11:05 ] Don't step on my transitions, Vince. SPEAKER_1 [ 01:11:07 ] Oh, sorry. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:11:07 ] I will cough all over you. David J. Reilly [ 01:11:09 ] Oh, boy. SPEAKER_1 [ 01:11:10 ] Legally. And so I think the American people are going to give Donald Trump the benefit of the doubt to do what he wants to do, at least if you believe these blunt questions. So we have slightly different questions, but these were all taken within the last month. And there's real uniformity here. That's what I really think you see. You see real uniformity. Deported all immigrants who are here illegally, 55% of the New York Times. Marquette, 64%. CBS News, 57%. ABC News with a slightly different question, 56%. So what you're seeing essentially here is a very clear indication that a majority of Americans, in fact, when they're asked this blunt question, which I believe gets at the underlying feelings, do in fact want to deport all immigrants. Who are here illegally. There's no arguing with these different numbers because they're all essentially the same across four different pollsters. SPEAKER_9 [ 01:11:53 ] So if they say yes today-ish, how has that changed over time? SPEAKER_1 [ 01:11:58 ] Yeah, this is where I think you get very interesting. And so we'll take a look at that ABC News question in particular because you can really see. That there's been a massive shift from when Trump was first getting into office eight years ago, right? Deport all undocumented immigrants. You go back to 2015, I'm going to come to your side of the screen; it was 42%. Hello. Go to 2016, it was 36%. Look at where we are now. This was taken at the end of last year, 56%. This is 20 points higher than it was just before Trump got into office the first time. Feelings towards immigration in this country, feelings towards undocumented immigrants and deporting all of them have become considerably more hawkish. And I think that gives Donald Trump much more leverage to go with the American people and sort of have these hawkish, some might say harsh, different rhetoric and also issue-based sort of going after immigrants who are here illegally. And so I think the American people are going to give Donald Trump the benefit of the doubt to do what he wants to do. David J. Reilly [ 01:12:55 ] Thanks, buddy. Yeah. Can I point out that that was CNN? Yeah. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:12:59 ] That was CNN. SPEAKER_9 [ 01:13:00 ] There's no way it's that low. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:13:02 ] Cam. So just give me a moment to speak about this, because this this entire issue is a demonstration of the stupidity of Donald Trump, a man who, just for the record, I think is seemingly. Unqualified to be president, and he's not qualified to be president because he's just not very smart; he doesn't have executive capability; I don't think he ever has; he's a marketing guy who thinks that making declarative statements is how you run a government, obviously it doesn't. And so the executive orders they sound great, what do they actually achieve in terms of implementation? Not very much. There is a very specific program that he should have set in motion on day one, of course. He didn't do that. The first thing he needs to do is declare the Insurrection Act. The Insurrection Act gives him broad powers to harness the power of the U. S. military to basically supersede domestic law and expel people. Now, he took steps to doing that. He said there's a state of emergency on the border, but that's not the same as the Insurrection Act. And my understanding is that in 90 days, he's going to be given a report from the director of Homeland Security about our progress. Why are you waiting 90 days? Why would you even do that? Declare the Insurrection Act. The next thing he could do is impose strict fines, potentially jail time for hiring illegal immigrants in the private sector, attack the corporations that hire these people, attack the public school system that gives them free education, free lunch, whatever. OK, we know that the public school system is flooded with illegal immigrants in California, Texas, other states like that. In addition to that, he can expand the meaning of criminality for non-citizens. So for minor infractions, he can force them to repatriate. Now, the other thing that he could do, and a lot of what I'm saying, by the way, is based on a proposal for remigration that was written by a guy named Martin Sellner in Austria, who briefed the Freedom Party, the right-wing party in Austria, on a plan for how to actually repatriate large numbers. Of refugees, asylum seekers, and other non-Austrians or Germans in the country. And they have a lot, too. In addition to the steps that I met, do a trade deal or negotiate some kind of an agreement with a foreign power. Give them some goodies in exchange for repatriation. OK, Trump says he's a dealmaker. He could absolutely do that. Do we have things that other countries want? Absolutely. OK, he's got to build the wall. All of that should fall under the rubric of the Insurrection Act. Now, this is very important. In order to do any of that, you've got to clean up the government. So you've got to go into ICE. You've got to go into DHS. You've got to go into the FBI. And you've got to fire everybody and replace them with your people who are going to implement this program. I have seen no evidence that any of this will be done. Instead, he's going to rinse and repeat what he did when he was president, which means everything gets bottled up in the courts and nothing. This is the problem with Donald Trump. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:16:08 ] I know you're right. I just don't want to hear it. I still don't want to hear it, you know? How does this make you feel, Vince? Vincent James Foxx [ 01:16:16 ] Talking about deal-making, I saw something on Twitter where he made some deal with India that they were like, 'Okay, we'll take back our illegal aliens.' Are illegal aliens that you have there that are Indian, but you have to give us grace on the H-1B visa applicants or something like that. I saw something somewhere about that. But, you know, if you were to deport like tens of millions of people, just like 10 million people, I would be fine with like trading the, you know, 30,000, whatever, H-1B or whatever. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:16:48 ] Cameron, what kind of deals do you mean? Cameron MacGregor [ 01:16:52 ] Well, he could give economic assistance, right? There's any number of things. He could give certain technology, maybe military equipment. I don't know. But there's any number of things that countries overseas want from us. We negotiate with foreign powers all the time. Now, obviously, you're not going to be able to do that with a crime state like Mexico. But we have immigrants from all over the world. All over the world. OK, and I'm not even being creative. There are any number of ways to do this. But acting like this is a regular declarative statement that you make and all of a sudden everything gets fixed, which is the reflexive position of Donald Trump. That's not going to fix anything. OK, he's got to have a program in place that drives this and implements this into reality. Again, where is it? Why wait on the Insurrection Act? Why not appoint a special military officer that's in charge of all of this? What's the timetable to build the wall? How much money is going to be allocated for that? Who's in charge of it? Do we have civil engineers do it? Do we have the Seabees build it? These are questions that should have been answered months ago when Trump was preparing to come in. Where is it? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:18:07 ] Why do you believe he is not doing this? Cameron MacGregor [ 01:18:10 ] Because I think that Donald Trump lacks the executive capacity to do any any of the things that I mentioned. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:18:16 ] But he certainly knows he can do this. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:18:18 ] He's an old man. OK, I think he's very fragile. I don't think he is somebody that understands or commands the details. When I think of Donald Trump, I think of a guy who walks into a restaurant, looks at the menu and says, 'Oh, this is great.' He never goes back into the kitchen to see how the food is prepared. That's Donald Trump. He thinks that he's going to change the intelligence agencies by appointing Tulsi Gabbard? Is he out of his mind? These are institutions that have rotted to the core for decades. You're going to have to reorganize the entire intelligence apparatus in the United States. He thinks that he can issue a decree through an executive order, and all of a sudden, abracadabra, it'll all get fixed. This is exactly how he was in his first term. The man has learned nothing. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:19:02 ] But there must be somebody in some sort of advisory role that's telling him that he can do these things, that it's possible to actually achieve it. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:19:08 ] That's the problem. The problem is that it's fine that he's not a politician. It's fine that he doesn't know how to govern, I guess. It's fine that he was a real estate agent or whatever, not a real estate agent, but a real estate mogul guy or whatever. He's not a politician. It's okay. Delegate, make sure that you have a machine around you that are of people that are going to do the things that you promised to the people. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:19:32 ] And he was always a poor judge of character. That's the problem. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:19:35 ] He delegates to the wrong people. If you delegated these things to the right people, the people that actually want to get things done, these things done, then it would be fine. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:19:43 ] Right. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:19:44 ] That paired with the other thing, Rebecca, too, is and again, you know, I know these things are a bit hard to believe because you might think, oh, well, this is sort of common sense. But if you read his inauguration address, you go back and watch the speech. It was just a stream of consciousness, of ridiculous promises, of self-aggrandizement, of I'm going to do A through Z. What it lacked, you know, and I went back and I looked at FDR's inaugural address in 1932, and I looked at Lincoln's in 1860, 1861 when he became president, and I looked at his second inaugural address. Lincoln's inaugural address was about slavery and secession. That's what it was about, okay? FDR's in 1932 was about the state of the economy, the crisis that we're in. Trump's was a jumbled mess. Now, there was a lot of good stuff in there for sure. But we need a program. We need focus. We need disciplined leadership. Trump is none of those things. And I think that is self-evident. Just listen to the man talk. David J. Reilly [ 01:20:49 ] I will say that it's interesting. There's this, you know, you were talking about not being a good judge of character and, you know, getting the team on board behind him. And I saw this exchange on Twitter unfold between OpenAI and Elon Musk, where they had announced this AI project that we've been talking about with Larry Ellison, right? And SoftBank had come out and said that they were going to give $500 billion or whatever. And Elon Musk comes out moments after they just had this big to-do in the White House, and he starts undercutting the president, saying, oh, yeah, they don't actually have any money. SoftBank has well under $10 billion secured. And then Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI, fires back. And it's like, none of these guys, I don't like any of these guys. I don't like Sam Altman. I don't know how I feel about Elon Musk after what happened with the immigration debacle. And now they're fighting with one another, like right under Donald Trump's nose. Like that's really-About how much money they-Yeah, I mean, it's like, that's not really a way to serve the president. I mean, you're kind of like outshining this guy. I mean, like, what if you like tank this guy's deal? Now, then again, maybe the deal deserves to be tanked. You know, maybe Elon is actually doing a solid thing trying to chase these guys out. I don't know. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:22:04 ] Well, it massively undermines confidence because it's obvious that nobody has any idea what's going on. David J. Reilly [ 01:22:09 ] Clearly. Yeah. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:22:10 ] Clearly. David J. Reilly [ 01:22:11 ] Cameron, you're right. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:22:12 ] This is hard to believe. Even somebody who has had their worldview totally shaken in the last 10 to 20 years, I still have a hard time believing that government officials that have been working there and these bureaucrats just don't really understand how things work. I would imagine the audience is having a similar problem, thinking that these people are incompetent or ignorant of the inner workings of the federal government. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:22:36 ] Look, you just have to remember that getting elected president is a Goliath effort. OK, I mean, my guess is that 80 percent of the time Donald Trump, Donald Trump spent thinking about anything. It was about winning the election. And again, if you go back to his speech. There's a sense of victory in Donald Trump, a sense of jubilee. I did it. I crossed the finish line. That's not true. The war has just begun. OK, nothing has been resolved. It's great that he was reelected. I'm glad that the January 6th people are out. But that's the nature of the political world that is America. You spend so much time, you're so exhausted by the process of getting elected, which requires you to raise money, requires you to curry favor, so forth and so on, that the actual process of governing is a wholly different animal. Never mind all of the invisible problems that we can't see. My issue with Donald Trump is as follows: He needs a program; he needs focus; he needs to focus on two or three things that he wants to achieve, not 50. And that has always bedeviled him. Never mind the fact, and bear bear in mind that this this problem has never been solved either. The Republican Party doesn't represent MAGA. It never has. So there'll be a lot of opposition to what he wants to do in his own party. David J. Reilly [ 01:23:58 ] Forget about the left, right, and you know, it is that brings up an interesting point, too, because I think Nick was talking about this on his show last night. You know, we don't have as much time as people may think that we do. Right. I mean, like we've got basically this first year. And then as soon as the second year comes around, everybody's going to be thinking about re-election. And they're going to be like, 'I don't really want to rock the boat too much. I kind of want to just do the normal thing. I want to go kiss some babies. I want to go campaign. I want to go do that.' And so, like if you know, in the second year, there's like a massive omnibus spending bill that, like, absolutely needs to be tanked. They're not going to take it; they're going to sign it. So, effectively, we have got one year where Donald Trump can make change happen. We've got one year where we can have a big impact. And it's not a comfortable majority, by the way, in the House. It's actually one of the most narrow majorities that I think we've ever seen in Congress. It's like only two or three votes, I think, on the Republican side over the Democrats right now, that we currently have. Plus, it doesn't matter. You got Murkowski, you got Collins. Right. We've got a bunch of traitors in Congress that don't put America first, that don't have American interests at heart, that care about their money, that care about emoluments and, you know, whatever. So, you know, I guess my point is like, you know. I mean, I've I've been toggling back and forth between white pilled and black pilled, you know, because you see some stuff that gives you hope. And I think that there's room for for hope, but not like an unreasonable level of of hope. I mean, like, I think we've basically got one year to see what Trump can get done. And if he is not at 80 percent by the end of his first year, that last 20% is never going to happen. And if we're at 20% at the end of the first year, it's never going to happen. Well, Cameron's right. He's an old man. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:25:51 ] He's not incentivized to do this. David J. Reilly [ 01:25:52 ] It's not even a matter of him being an old man. It's a matter of like, oh, if you look at the history of elections and Congress, whenever a Republican wins the presidency, the House and Senate usually flip to the other party. That's like. Almost every time, nine times out of ten, that's exactly what happens. So, like, we should be playing the game right now as though we're going to lose the House and Senate in the next go-around. And, frankly, I think that if they legislated like that, if they legislated with that in mind, like, hey, we've really only got, like, one year to get this done, I actually think that most of these people would get reelected, frankly. I think that a lot of the Republicans, people like Jim Risch, if they like were really radical about the Trump agenda and making sure that that got passed and that these promises were kept, I think that they would pick up seats in the House. I think they would pick up seats in the Senate. But if they're trying to play moderate and if they're trying to, like, you know, do business as usual, frankly, I think MAGA is going to turn on them. I think there will be a backlash in two years. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:26:50 ] You're still talking about using the system to fix the problems, though. Yeah, well, whatever. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:26:54 ] People are getting more radical, though. That's true. People are. I mean, you know, the extreme position is no longer, you know, that extreme anymore. I mean, you just saw what the immigration, the majority of Americans are fine with deporting all illegal immigrants. Like, that's crazy. David J. Reilly [ 01:27:09 ] In 2020, I was like, 2016 to 2020, I was like advocating for a net zero immigration policy. So as long as we're like deporting as many illegals as legals were bringing in, that's kind of where I was at. And I think most Americans were at a similar point where we were okay saying not a total ban, but like a net zero policy where we're not adding more migrants to the country. Now, it's like you need to, for every one immigrant you bring in, you need to send like 10,000 out for every one we bring in. It's no longer net zero. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:27:47 ] I never thought, and I don't think today that Donald Trump is some kind of puzzle, right? A lot of people think that the man is unpredictable. I don't think he's unpredictable at all. I think he is consistently unreliable. He's consistently undisciplined, okay? A couple things that he said in his speech are clear reflections of that, all right? He said, for example, he said, many people thought it was impossible for me to stage such a historical political comeback. But as you see today, here I am. And the American people have spoken. Okay, then he said the entire nation is rapidly unifying behind our agenda with dramatic increases in support from virtually every element of our society. And then he goes into talk about Hispanics and Africans, etc., etc. He left Whites out of that, by the way. He says national unity is now returning to America, and confidence and pride are soaring like never before. Now look right! Inaugural addresses are famous for flowery rhetoric like that. OK, but that's what Trump really believes. He thinks that this is his moment. He thinks that the country is sort of congealing behind him. The opposite is the case. The country is divided racially. The country is divided politically. Every effort on the part of the left to sabotage, undermine, and destroy his government will be taken legal and illegal, just as it was during his last term. Donald Trump doesn't understand that. He's never been one who understands context. For him, everything is about what he expresses. It's this sort of outward sensation for him, right? In other words, it's whatever the narrative is that he frames in his mind. It's never the context around him. The context around him is as follows: His government is facing a fiscal crisis immediately. He left that out of his inaugural address, all right? They have a debt crisis that they have to deal with. He didn't address the debt at all – not in six months, not in a year, not in two years. Today, alright? We have an immigration crisis, obviously. He mentioned something about that. Obviously, we'll have to see what happens. The third issue is we have very serious tensions with the Russians and a potential war in the Middle East on behalf of Israel. He's not taking steps to deescalate those. OK, so my point is that the context of his administration, the political context that he's in is completely different from what he thinks he's in. He thinks he's won. He thinks that this is sort of his swan song. It isn't. This is the beginning of Trump War 2. 0. That's what this is. And I don't think he understands that. David J. Reilly [ 01:30:27 ] You know, it is interesting to see what's going to happen with the Russia thing, because I guess I heard that Trump was going to have some sort of a call with Putin and ask Putin for some sort of concessions, which I don't think Putin will give. No. Which means that Trump is going to turn right around and say, we're going to smash the hell out of you. And then we're at war with Russia? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:30:47 ] No. Putin is a measured man. He's not reactionary. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:30:53 ] He rides bears. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:30:55 ] He does. David J. Reilly [ 01:30:56 ] True. But I mean, I'm concerned about that. I am concerned about the way that he's going to handle the Russia thing. You know, I'm kind of concerned about this, the Middle East thing, because when you listen to what the Israelis themselves are saying, they're saying it's not over. It's not over. They're viewing the ceasefire as like a very, very temporary pause. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:31:16 ] So is Trump. Yeah. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:31:17 ] Yeah. Look, he said in his speech, basically. He said, 'I'm going to direct members of my government to fix the inflation problem.' Well, Donald, that's not how inflation works. OK, that that is an existential crisis that average Americans face. They can't afford groceries. All right. That should be number one on his list. The fiscal crisis should be number two. The immigration crisis should be number three. Even even in that short paragraph, what am I doing? I'm sort of creating priorities. That's not something that Trump excels at. He's a man who fires a million bullets in all directions. And guys, I think it's going to destroy the man. I really do. What do you guys want to get to quickly before we go to Super Chats? David J. Reilly [ 01:32:00 ] By the way, Super Chats, you can go to the backlash dot net slash super chat and you can choose between powerchat . live, Entropy Stream, and Streamlabs. So if you'd like to ask some questions of our wonderful friend Cameron or any of these hosts that you see with us, we would love to take your questions and answers, yada, yada. Oh, I mean, there's a lot of stuff that we haven't gotten to yet. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:32:28 ] Do you want to do some of what the right is spurging out about, looking into, with the hand gestures and such? Vincent James Foxx [ 01:32:35 ] Let's take a look at this. Might as well. Might as well. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:32:40 ] Yeah, people were freaking out about this. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:32:43 ] Eric Trump was doing the Andrew Tate thing. The Illuminati hands. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:32:48 ] We've got speculation about Melania's outfit, which I also did. Oh, look at his face. Like a Kushner's face. Kushner's face. David J. Reilly [ 01:32:57 ] Yeah, not Eric. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:32:58 ] No. Oh, good Lord. David J. Reilly [ 01:33:00 ] Glad we're never going to be, God, we're never going to be free of the Illuminati. Are you kidding me? These people. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:33:06 ] That's like an Andrew Tate thing. No, it's not even an Andrew Tate thing. David J. Reilly [ 01:33:09 ] I used to do this when I was having corporate videos or whatever. No, not like that. You teach him to kind of like hold your hands like this. If you don't know what, if you're like doing public speaking and you don't really know what to do with your hands. Hands above the waist. Don't put them in your pockets. Right. Don't fidget with stuff. Usually just kind of like fold your hands or do something like this or like that or whatever. I don't think it's like. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:33:31 ] This is obviously meaningless. A symbol. I think it's totally meaningless. I'm always disappointed to see people on the right spurging out about this stuff and assigning all this meaning because it makes us lose credibility as a movement. However, I did do this with Melania's outfit. David J. Reilly [ 01:33:41 ] Okay. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:33:42 ] Because I have an interesting fashion. David J. Reilly [ 01:33:44 ] I will say that the handshakes are real. The Masonic handshakes are real. Whatever. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:33:49 ] You cannot tell me that this doesn't have Hugo Boss vibes, this outfit. This is a severe look. David J. Reilly [ 01:33:56 ] Yeah. She looks good, though. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:33:59 ] I don't know. It just looked weird to me. People were saying it was like Vendetta. V for Vendetta? Yeah. Do I have? David J. Reilly [ 01:34:05 ] I think I've got a, I put it in there. Yeah, here it is. I mean, it kind of does. I got to be honest. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:34:15 ] Yeah, you're not wrong. And then we've got Barron, who has clearly been taking notes from his father. I think that he is teeing up a career. I know he said he's going into real estate. I think he's teeing up for a career in politics. He's not going to be the white nationalist authoritarian that we're looking for, but a girl can hope, right? Vincent James Foxx [ 01:34:35 ] There's this video. He was raised online. Who knows? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:34:39 ] I know. He's a 410 guy, isn't he? David J. Reilly [ 01:34:42 ] A very tall son named Baron. This isn't the video that I wanted to pull up, though. There was this video of, like, Elon. Here it is. It was Elon Musk, and he's, like, standing behind Baron, like, freaking out. Look at this. They're clapping or whatever. SPEAKER_10 [ 01:35:00 ] And he's there, like. David J. Reilly [ 01:35:03 ] You know, this is so gay. Why do I have to do this? And of course, you see Elon Musk, Howard Lutnick over here. Is that Doug Burgum there behind? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:35:12 ] Can't tell. I think so. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:35:15 ] That's funny. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:35:16 ] And then, of course, everybody's talking about this Elon Musk hailgate, which it's obvious that this was just a Spurg salute. Yeah, the guy just doesn't have very good control over his body. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:35:25 ] Have you guys looked into the. Oh, there it is. Yeah. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:35:31 ] It's really Hitler, you know. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:35:33 ] I didn't see the full context clip before that one. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:35:35 ] He said something about his heart. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:35:36 ] He said something about my heart goes out to you. Yeah, so that makes a lot more sense. A lot of people are sharing that. But I don't know. It's dumb. David J. Reilly [ 01:35:45 ] But it’s concerning because, like, the ADL rushed to his defense immediately. That's weird. That's very strange. There's this, you know, this is a delicate moment. It's a new day, and yet so many are on edge. Our politics are inflamed, and social media only adds to that anxiety. It seems that Elon Musk made an awkward hand gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute. But again, we appreciate that the people are on edge. And it’s like, you know, if this was literally six months ago, they would have been calling for a boycott, economically terrorizing him. They would have been threatening all of his companies, you know. And of course, the usual suspects are immediately coming out to defend Elon Musk, you know. Kind of tipping their hat. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:36:31 ] Ben Shapiro. Tipping their hand. David J. Reilly [ 01:36:32 ] I apologize. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:36:34 ] Tipping their cap. David J. Reilly [ 01:36:35 ] You know, like, look at this. Elon Musk is not an anti-Semite. Here I am taking him to Auschwitz. Okay. I'm with Fuentes, though. That was, like, really Hillary. And then there was the rabbi. Did you see the rabbi Shmuley? Oh, no, I haven't seen this. SPEAKER_8 [ 01:36:50 ] As much as I, of course, hate anti-Semitism, racism, bigotry, but I hate false claims of anti-Semitism. What is being claimed against Elon Musk, one of the greatest friends in the world of global jewelry and the state of Israel, did a Nazi salute. Wait, that exists? Global jewelry. I was there in the room at the Capital One Arena. We're not listening to the whole thing. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:37:12 ] Are we going to find out in years to come that he's actually just AI, like an AI representation of the most grotesque Jew, the most evil Jew on the planet? Jeez. David J. Reilly [ 01:37:25 ] That's pretty crazy. But I mean, you know, it begs the question, right? Like this globalist, evil, anti-American, anti-free speech group, the Anti-Defamation League, has done a 180. They've gone from calling for Donald Trump to be banned from Twitter, which they did on January 6th, by the way, to now. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:37:51 ] hopping up at the beck and call to defend elon to defend trump what does that tell you that they move with the powers that be they're nimble well or i think it tells you that it tells you that they're captured they've been completely assimilated yeah i mean it's it's the fact that they're not using this to attack the trump administration should concern trump supporters it should yeah it definitely should um cameron do you have anything to add before we go to super chats no i think vince got it Vince and Dave got it. David J. Reilly [ 01:38:22 ] Well, do we want to go to Super Chats? Good job, fellas. We can go to Super Chats. Let's do it. There's a couple stories that I wanted to give a big shout out to Jim Risch, Senator Jim Risch, for ending the Lava Ridge Wind Project here in Idaho. I will pull that up real quick. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:38:37 ] Yeah, tell us what that is. David J. Reilly [ 01:38:38 ] So basically there was a bunch of BLM land in southern Idaho that they were attempting to get all these wind farms put into. And the people were against it. The state of Idaho was against it. The legislators were. Everybody was against it. And the Bureau of Land Management was going to still cram it down our throats. And so Jim Risch worked with the Donald Trump team and had an EO passed, which is basically going to ban it. It's not going to happen. Great. So that's a victory. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:39:06 ] They're an eyesore and terribly inefficient. David J. Reilly [ 01:39:08 ] And while we're kind of looking at some local stuff, I also wanted to bring up there's something very troubling going on in Montana right now. There is a piece of legislation that has been introduced that is basically a direct attack on the Catholic Church. It would compel priests to break the seal of confession, which is not legal. In what instance? Well, it basically says— it would make them like what is it called mandated reporters or whatever, so if they hear about a crime in the confessional, it would mandate that they have to then go to the authorities and rat out the person that they oh, that's lame, yeah that destroys the Catholic faith, it makes the entire faith like not work. Um, and the person that introduced this bill if i can bring it up is a Jewish representative I know in Montana; I knew it named is it Cora Newman? Yeah, Cora Newman, she's a representative in Montana. She's worked with a bunch of extremely bad groups, the Montana Human Rights Network, for example. And usually it's just... Anyway, so she is. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:40:16 ] That's Casey. We got to have him on the show. Yeah, we've got to have Casey. David J. Reilly [ 01:40:19 ] Casey, by the way, just got banned on Twitter. What? Yeah, he's locked out for reporting on this story, I believe. But yeah, so this it's anti-Catholic legislation that does need to get that needs to get quashed. So if you live in Montana, make sure that you contact your representatives and tell them that you really don't like what you're seeing happening in the legislature. That would be nice. Catholics everywhere will thank you for that. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:40:47 ] On that note, get your last-minute super chats into the backlash dot net slash super chat. And I will start with this one that's left over from entropy. If you did not have your Super Chat read or your Entropy Chat read last week, please send it to me on Twitter through DMs. My DMs are open, @blondes_tweets, and we will read it on the next show. I don't know what happened. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:41:08 ] Dave has a bunch of screenshots from Entropy. I didn't take the screenshot. No, we had it up. Oh, what was that? What I was just looking at when I came here. David J. Reilly [ 01:41:15 ] When we first opened it up, all the Super Chats from the last stream were loaded up in there. And I thought that we could read them out on the show. But then as we opened our new live stream, it wiped out the previous Super Chats. If we didn't get your Super Chat right, just send it again. Or you can send an email to [info@thebacklash. net](mailto:info@thebacklash. net). Or go to thebacklash. net, and we have a contact form on there. You can get in touch with us. You can send us a message. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:41:45 ] Any of those ways, we will make sure to read it on a subsequent show. So I do have one from last week from Howard. The real question I had was in regard to Israel, Jewish power losing influence and control in America. If this does continue to the point they're not able to do so as they please and fully breaks down, how do you see all that playing out? More 9-11-styled events, more Las Vegas mass shooting events, random bombings. I can't see them losing their power quietly. And I've always thought it will become bloody considering how much they hate white people so much. So I wanted to hear your take on that. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:42:18 ] Sorry. I was just trying to get Dave to switch to that new camera he's got because it's freaking cool. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:42:23 ] Oh, I just saw you doing like a really lewd gesture. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:42:27 ] Sorry. I was doing this. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:42:30 ] I wasn't doing this. He's doing the Elon Musk. Let's do the Elon Musk. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:42:36 ] Yeah, it's terrible. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:42:37 ] I'm not sure I fully understood the question, but I, you know, look, my sense is that what's happening in Gaza is a big deal. And that's why I castigated Trump the way that I did. It is a genocide. It is a crime against humanity, what's happening over there. And it's exposed this untoward relationship between Israel and the United States. I mean, it really has. It's put a spotlight on it. That, I think, has eroded trust and confidence that the U. S. government and our support for the state of Israel is above board. I really, I think, it has made a serious dent. Obviously, it hasn't changed anything. OK, what will change something? I think that this coming war between Israel and Iran is going to involve the United States. I think we will suffer casualties. I think it will do real damage to the United States when that happens. That will, I think, wake up the rest of the country about this pernicious relationship between Israel and the United States through AIPAC. That further exposes the machine politics that our politicians are hostage to. OK, that's how things change. But unfortunately, there's going to be a lot of collateral damage, probably, for American armed services, never mind what potentially could happen here at home through domestic terrorism. We'll have to see. But I think that is going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back. That's not going to change everything overnight. But in addition to what I just mentioned, which is sort of unveiling this festering corruption that's completely captured our government, to use Dave's term, is we need a new movement. We need a new party, right? It's what I talk about all the time. Until you have a political organization of sorts that directly challenges that head on in ways that Donald Trump refuses to do, obviously, then nothing will change. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:44:35 ] I agree. He sent some other comments, but I don't think that that's what he sent on entropy. So thank you, Howard, for that. We really appreciate it. David J. Reilly [ 01:44:43 ] We're going to start over here, I guess, on a power chat. And of course, you can get your last-minute ones in at the backlash dot net slash super chat. Phil Biz sent $25. The birthright citizenship issue won't be resolved until the Supreme Court determines the historical intent of, quote, subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Until then, the argument goes on. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:45:03 ] Remember that whole argument back in 2018? Subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Everyone was arguing over that language. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:45:11 ] Yep. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:45:11 ] I don’t remember that, actually. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:45:13 ] I do. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:45:13 ] Cam looks like he knows about this. Can you give us some insight? Say that again, Vince? What do you think about his point about the Supreme Court? Like the Supreme Court will need to take up this case, which I don't know if they ever will, but take up this case, or maybe Trump will somehow get them to do this, take up this case over this language of the amendment, subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:45:42 ] I can't speak to the specific language, but, you know, Ann Coulter's talked about birthright citizenship for a long time. And obviously it's been hijacked, right? It was passed so that we could confer legal status on former slaves. That's the genesis of that amendment. And I'm sure at the time that made sense. But it has since been a Trojan horse to demographically destroy the United States. And it's got to be overhauled. And Trump is absolutely right. Most countries in the world do not have anything like that. This is crucial. My view is simple. I think this is going to be the last thing that will probably change as a consequence of any shift towards the nationalist right. I think it's coming, but it's not a change that we're going to lead with. It will be the result of a complete overhaul of the legacy structure. David J. Reilly [ 01:46:34 ] All right. Emma sent $10. Chat specifically for Dave today. Uh-oh. I hope you had lots of family and friend support this week after what happened. I'm sure you're a resilient guy, but betrayal like that can really sting. God bless. Thank you very much. As a matter of fact, the support has been actually kind of overwhelming. I've been fielding phone calls from like monks, priests, other journalists and activists and authors literally all week long. So it is very nice to know that I'm not on the retarded side of that particular issue. Hello. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:47:10 ] You are a grifting fed though. David J. Reilly [ 01:47:12 ] I'm not a grifting fed. I didn't blackmail him. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:47:15 ] He has blackmailed me to doing the Nazi salute many, many times. David J. Reilly [ 01:47:19 ] Oh really? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:47:19 ] Yeah. No, you just held a gun to my head and made me do a Nazi salute. Yeah. He's got it on video. David J. Reilly [ 01:47:24 ] You know, I have this thing about me where if I tell you to do a Nazi salute, like the person loses all free will and they're compelled to, to act. They have no more free will. So like if I, if I tell you to do something like watch out because you're going to be like sleepwalking and like doing, actions that aren't so anyway thank you very much Emma for for the support it has been kind of weird and bizarre and like I don't think people normally get attacked by their former employers in in a way that is nearly as public as the way that this was but we're moving on we're moving forward we're not looking back. Vessel sent $5. Sorry, last week's Super Chat read, racism was a character count fail. My point is that racism originally meant one who doesn't assimilate to the homogeneic white American culture, while today it means one who does precisely that. Interesting. Oh, yeah, that's right. There was this weird Super Chat. Oh, we couldn't understand. We couldn't understand what he was saying. Okay. Thank you very much for the follow-up. I do appreciate it. Vessel also sent another $5 saying, also, any pointers for an aspiring creative writer? What stories does our movement need to be contributed to art and culture? As a writer myself, I would say write every day. Just write about something every day. Keep a journal. Maybe start a sub-stack. But like the easiest way to write a book is to just write a series of articles, you know, exploring a particular topic. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:48:54 ] People on the right do not want to read fiction. David J. Reilly [ 01:48:56 ] No, I don't think people on the right want to read fiction. And frankly, usually whenever right wingers do come up with fiction, it turns into like the Turner Diaries. And it's like. Kind of icky, it's just like The Camp of the Saints was fiction, but Camp of the Saints was good, but that was also like written from a very culturally sound perspective, uh, from the viewpoint of a French Catholic that was like watching the country be de-Christianized before his face, you know. And I think that I think that that was a really, really good book and I recommend everybody read it, but yeah, it's crazy when it was written, it was like the 70s, 1974? Vincent James Foxx [ 01:49:37 ] Yeah, it's crazy if you read that. David J. Reilly [ 01:49:39 ] I paid $300 for my copy, by the way. Oh, I had that. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:49:41 ] I got that for $15 way back when. $15? Now it's banned. It's banned from Amazon. It's banned everywhere. You can't find it anywhere. David J. Reilly [ 01:49:47 ] It was because Steve Bannon came out and said everybody needs to read it. And frankly, you know. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:49:52 ] Oh my gosh, the hardcover book is $2,000 on Amazon. David J. Reilly [ 01:49:55 ] There you go. Yeah. Yeah. No, it is. That's not even the hardcover. Something that I had actually discussed with some people was the idea of actually turning Camp of the Saints into a movie. I think nowadays with the technology that we have. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:50:08 ] Just go to the border and there's your movie. David J. Reilly [ 01:50:12 ] It's true. But no, I mean, with the green screen technology, with the Unreal Engine rendering, with like, you know, LED screen walls and AI, somebody could definitely turn the Camp of the Saints into like a real movie for, I think, under a couple hundred thousand dollars. They did it already. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:50:29 ] It's World War Z. Have you ever seen it? True, true. Where the zombies are piling up above the. Was the wall in Israel, though? I don't know. Was it really? David J. Reilly [ 01:50:37 ] I thought that, like, the movie, like, ends with, like, who was it? Brad Pitt. Like, I remember, like, the scene where they're in the helicopter, like, mowing down, like, shooting all the zombies, climbing the wall. I thought that was Israel, but maybe. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:50:50 ] Maybe it was the Western Wall. Who knows? David J. Reilly [ 01:50:52 ] Aquarium Groiper sent $5. Yo. Yo. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:50:55 ] We love Aquarium Groiper. David J. Reilly [ 01:50:57 ] We love the Groipers. They're great people. Unban them, by the way. Big Mad Lad sent $5. Blonde looks like a beautiful Aryan queen. Love the braids. The simping will continue until Cameron runs for office. Hail the backlash, hailer people. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:51:12 ] You should see what she looks like in person. You wouldn't say that. Terrible. David J. Reilly [ 01:51:17 ] Disaster. Keep it real, Vince. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:51:20 ] Keep it real. David J. Reilly [ 01:51:22 ] Warlock Wisdom sent $10. I'm just here for the brooding Scotsman. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:51:27 ] Yes, many such cases. I think that was a glaze for you. We need a mute button on our mics for when we need to cough. David J. Reilly [ 01:51:33 ] Just tell me. I need to cough. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:51:36 ] What? Oh, I muted you. What's that? You guys have a problem? Too late now. Read that super chat again. Sorry. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:51:43 ] I'm just going to cough in Vince's face for disparaging my IRL. I don't even know which cup is mine. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:51:48 ] I've been wanting to get tea this entire time and I don't know which cup is mine. You're going to die. You're going to get strep throat. It's going to be awesome. I hope so. Which one? David J. Reilly [ 01:51:57 ] Warlock Wisdom, by the way, no to witchcraft. That's bad. Sent $10. I'm just here for the brooding Scotsman. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:52:05 ] What is that? That's Cameron. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:52:07 ] That's Cameron. Who's that guy? That was a big glaze. I'm all smiles over here. Look at this. Look at that. All smiles. Beautiful. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:52:14 ] Beautiful. Got him to smile a couple of times. That's good. No witchcraft. There's a lot of witchcraft in Spokane. There's a lot of witchcraft in North Island. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:52:20 ] Did you polish off the tea? You son of a. David J. Reilly [ 01:52:24 ] We should do an episode on that. Actually, be kind of fun because it's filled with sediment. The Satanic Panic in the 1970s and 80s up here, up in Spirit Lake and Rathdrum, it was pretty serious. And there was actually a lot of really weird child trafficking that was going on back then, too. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:52:43 ] Well, the Satanic Panic was about that, right? Yeah, well, there was the Franklin scandal. David J. Reilly [ 01:52:49 ] But that was weird. That was real. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:52:51 ] No, no, no. David J. Reilly [ 01:52:52 ] It was real, and it was happening here in Kootenai County. In North Idaho, around the same time that the Posse Comitatus was getting started in the 1970s. And no one has ever really explored that before. I think it's worth it. It's kind of interesting. Okay, Anonymous sent $5. In regards to EMJ, I hope you guys know better than to allow Fed-friendly objects and assets on your property or within your possession. Leave that to the Feds like that old guy cries as they strike you indeed. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:53:24 ] What? Fed-friendly objects? What is he talking about? David J. Reilly [ 01:53:27 ] I think he's talking about G-U-N-S. Oh, got it. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:53:32 ] Everybody out here says that. David J. Reilly [ 01:53:33 ] And I don't understand. I mean, he has a thing with, like, just call the police if you're in trouble. And it's like, the police would take 15 minutes to get to my house. If somebody breaks down my front door, I've got to be able to neutralize that immediately. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:53:46 ] I'm not saying this out of malice, but do you think it's possible he has dementia? David J. Reilly [ 01:53:49 ] No, I don't think he has dementia. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:53:51 ] Because his rant about us seemed completely unhinged. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:53:54 ] Yeah, it was. It was not based in reality. After you were so nice, too, in that one. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:54:00 ] Vince even clipped it out and played nice little gay music. He was so nice. David J. Reilly [ 01:54:04 ] Yeah, I don't think that he watched the whole clip, and I think his assistant, Mike Pajakis, who actually did blackmail him over Indiana labor laws, which not many people know about, I think that he's got a sore spot and doesn't like me. Allegedly. Allegedly. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:54:20 ] Reportedly. Yeah, I mean, Dave was so nice. I mean, there was this one clip we have up on the Backlash Twitter account. By the way, you should go follow the Backlash. Real Backlash. Real Backlash on Twitter, where Dave was reminiscing about the days where he would go to work with Elon Musk. With E. Michael Jones. He would ride on a tandem bike with E. Michael Jones in the back. And E. Michael Jones would have like a basket, like a picnic basket he would be carrying in one hand and the other hand would be wrapped around David's torso. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:54:54 ] And then they'd fill it with apples. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:54:56 ] Apple picking is a big thing in Indiana. And he was talking about in the last episode, and I think this is what E. Michael Jones was so mad about because he exposed this. Where E. Michael Jones would actually cut the crust off of his peanut butter and jelly sandwiches before putting it into the picnic basket. The picnic basket? Yeah, and they would go to the park and sit on the lawn and have a picnic, and then they would go to work. I'm not even joking. This sounds like a joke. This is literally what he said last time. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:55:23 ] Dave would make sure his little bow tie's on straight. David J. Reilly [ 01:55:26 ] Yeah, I actually would do that, make sure his collar was all set up. Anyway, you can go back and watch old episodes of The Backlash at thebacklash. net. Our old episodes there and be sure to follow us on Rumble, YouTube, Twitter; we've got all of the links at the very bottom of the website in the footer, so go to thebacklash. net. And then he lied, and then he lied about you. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:55:46 ] He did lie about me. Well, now that everyone knows, you might as well play that clip that you made, that compilation. David J. Reilly [ 01:55:52 ] No, I don't want to. I want this to be done, and we can all just move forward with our lives. He can be wrong about that one issue, and then we can be right about it, and that's fine. Anyway, Reinhardt sent $10. Thank you, Reinhardt. I love Devin Stack, but this is such a retarded take. Because if it was having any effect at all, it wasn't having enough to justify letting them rot in prison. I think that's true, too. And again, I think that them being out, like at the Old State Saloon down in Boise, they're going to do a whole week of January 6th pardon celebrations bringing up. All of these people that were pardoned and just released from jail, they're going to bring them up. They're going to go on stage and they're going to share their stories. And frankly, I think that is going to be more radicalizing than like, oh, yeah, that guy's still in jail. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:56:37 ] So there's a this is this is actually, I think, an interesting topic, though, because I only saw the tweet because you guys sent it to me because I'm such a boomer. I don't even read Twitter. But the question is a good one. And that is, what is it? That's going to radicalize people? What does it take to get people really upset? I mention this in part because a couple of years ago, you guys probably remember there were these mass riots in France against Macron. And the cover story for that was because Macron was instituting pension reform. So he was going to raise the retirement age. But actually, my sources told me the reason why people got so pissed was because Larry Fink and BlackRock were in talks with the French government to manage their pension system. All right. And that the French population actually found out and they started burning shit down. Now, that's France. We're the United States. But The question is a good one. What is it going to take? That same question was asked when Donald Trump was prosecuted. Right. When all of a sudden he ended up in court and people said, well, if he gets arrested, if he gets jailed, are Americans going to come into the streets? I was somebody who said, 'no', I didn't think so, because I didn't think Donald Trump really is that legitimate, sincere leader that would provoke people to a kind of backlash like that. But I could be wrong. That being said. We're going to find out, okay? As things become unhinged, we're going to find out where that line is. And just to be clear, I think it's the housing market. I think if the housing market really broke, I think that would get Americans into the street. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:58:12 ] Yeah, that would be awesome. I hope, because then we can afford houses. No, you know what would bring down the housing cost? Wait, hold up, hold up. Are we down? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:58:23 ] Dave has accidentally pressed the stop streaming button. I just removed it. We're trying to figure out if we’re still streaming. David J. Reilly [ 01:58:29 ] So I can’t fat-finger it anymore. We’re definitely still streaming. I just think it’s. On Twitter, probably a new stream. And on YouTube, I don’t know. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:58:37 ] No, on YouTube, I’m still going. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:58:38 ] No, YouTube usually continues the last stream if that happens. We’re fine. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:58:44 ] We’re good. Sounds fine. Everything’s cool. David J. Reilly [ 01:58:46 ] It was only for a split second, so I think we’re still up. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:58:49 ] Anyway, so he was saying he thinks if the housing market crashes, that that is going to be the catalyst. David J. Reilly [ 01:58:55 ] I think between that and a food crisis, I think three meals. three meals away from revolution is a, have you seen what's happened with eggs recently? Vincent James Foxx [ 01:59:05 ] They're, they're way up. What's going on? I go into the grocery store and they're the whole, I took a picture of the whole fricking, is that what it is? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:59:12 ] I think they had to kill a whole bunch of birds. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:59:14 ] They had to call. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:59:15 ] Well, they, they had to, I don't think they actually had to. David J. Reilly [ 01:59:17 ] I know my chickens have not been laying nearly as many eggs as they were, but I think that there's other, other issues there that are perfectly within my control. Vincent James Foxx [ 01:59:25 ] The whole shelf was empty. There was one dozen of eggs left and it was like, $12 and I had to buy it because we needed eggs. Oh my gosh. That's crazy. David J. Reilly [ 01:59:34 ] That's awful. I should just come over to your house and steal your eggs. Muff Muffington sent $10. Hi Cameron, I've been enjoying your sub stack and YouTube videos. They're incredibly insightful. Do you offer one-on-one consulting sessions on geopolitics? I'd love to book some time and can pay you a few hundred dollars an hour for your expertise. Thanks. Wow. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:59:54 ] Okay. Yeah, that's interesting. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:59:55 ] He's like, I guess I do that now. Okay. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:59:57 ] Yeah, just contact me on Substack. David J. Reilly [ 02:00:01 ] Contact him on Substack. All right. I love Substack. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:00:04 ] Substack is like you can-it's like a mass emailing system where you can just like red pill a shit ton of people and not get spammed. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:00:15 ] Right. Vince, do you-because you used to put out good stuff on Daily Veracity. Do you still use that or do you have a Substack? Vincent James Foxx [ 02:00:22 ] I've been moving it all over to Substack. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:00:25 ] Yeah, you should do that. All you guys should. I have a Substack. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:00:28 ] I just don't know what it's called. David J. Reilly [ 02:00:29 ] I've got like 300 or 400 articles that I would have to... You have one, right? Cameron MacGregor [ 02:00:33 ] Dave, you have a Substack? David J. Reilly [ 02:00:34 ] I have one. I don't think I use it very often just because... Anyway. I use mine a lot. It's hard, yeah. Yeah, I haven't been writing much anyway since I started writing about the corruption in the FBI. It's like, oh. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:00:45 ] Well, you know, the solution to that is to write every day. David J. Reilly [ 02:00:47 ] It is. The solution is to write every day. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:00:49 ] My beef with EMJ. There you go. Yeah, how about that? Maybe. Part one. David J. Reilly [ 02:00:56 ] Reinhart sent $10. People need to understand that we are never getting mass deportations. We never were. There are about 80 million illegals and 6,000 enforcement agents in ICE. That's 50,000 per day that we need to deport. We arrested 308. It's not happening. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:01:13 ] Yeah, so we're going to get more immigration than people are deported because if we're getting thousands of whatever. Right, if we're doing H-1B, F-1, whatever. David J. Reilly [ 02:01:22 ] Legal immigration. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:01:23 ] And people need to realize that it's the legal immigration, it's the legal immigration that's the biggest part of the problem. Right. Right. If we have, you know, 40 million illegals here or whatever, 100 million people, 100, more than 100 million people have, we've increased the population by more than 100 million people because of legal immigration, legal immigration. Without that legal immigration for the past 40, 45 years, we would be at 200 million people in our population. So it's the legal immigration that's the biggest part of the problem. The illegal immigration, of course, is a big problem. If they were to deport these 1. 5 million criminal illegal aliens, okay, great start. How quickly can you get that done? Then that shows us if this is actually feasible or not. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:02:15 ] Well, it is feasible, and you guys have heard me talk about this. It is absolutely feasible, but you have to have a programmatic, a systematic approach to doing it. You can't just sign an executive order. Basically, you're creating a whole supply chain to repatriate people from the United States outside of the country. It could absolutely be done. However, and sorry to give you how the movie is going to end for the Trump administration, but no, it's not going to happen with Donald Trump. We're going to have to go into a kind of state of exception. We're going to have to see a breakdown of law and order. And I suspect that's coming. And when that comes, then you're going to see mass repatriation voluntarily. That's coming. It is absolutely coming. There is a racial crisis in the United States. You know, again, this is something I just don't think Donald Trump really understands. And if you read his comments, it suggests he's living in some kind of parallel delusional universe. We are a divided nation. Those divisions don't really matter when you have a kind of stability or prosperity economically. If that breaks down, all of a sudden, all bets are off. And I think that's exactly where we're headed. Fair point. David J. Reilly [ 02:03:29 ] Just a guy sent $50. Cameron, Trump just signed an EO to remove the United States from the WHO. Is there any possibility of removing the United States from the United Nations? Cameron MacGregor [ 02:03:41 ] Yeah, we could. Absolutely. We could pull out. We also give the UN money. Look, we're a sovereign nation. We don't have to participate in any of that. But again, this goes back to Rebecca's point, right? Are we doing these things? Actually, I guess it was Dave's point, too. Are we doing these things because of MAGA? Are we doing these things because of 'America First'? Or are we doing them as some kind of a caveat for Israel? That's the issue. But of course we can do those things. Of course we can exit the United Nations. I'm not sure it's in our interest to do so, by the way. I'm not sure it's in our interest necessarily to categorically pull out of all of this. I'm not sure it's in our interest to be confrontational with powers around the world, OK, which is something that Donald Trump seems to sort of flirt with from time to time. Whatever we do, we should do it because it's in our national interest, not for some foreign power. David J. Reilly [ 02:04:37 ] And that's that's really interesting that you bring that up, because this podcast I was watching earlier today with Jonathan Pollard and Rabbi David Bar Haim. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:04:47 ] You just like to say Bar Haim. David J. Reilly [ 02:04:49 ] I love saying that. It's great. Mahon Shiloh is the name of their channel on YouTube, if you want to watch. But they were talking about Trump withdrawing from the United Nations and setting up a parallel anti-United Nations that would also, you know, feature Israel and all the other ostensibly, is their word, democratic nations. Not actually democratic. Ostensibly democratic, um, and yeah, I'm, I agree with Cameron. I'm not sure that leaving the United Nations isn't our, um, because we, we control the United Nations; like, single-handedly control the United Nations. Our veto is what stopped, uh, You know, it's what allowed the genocide in Gaza to continue, right? We continually veto every resolution about Israel, every resolution about the war in Gaza, veto, veto every single time. And it doesn't matter what, you know, the 198 other members of that body are all voting to end the genocide and we veto it along with Israel, and boom, it's done. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:05:55 ] So that's why they like I was just going to say that's why on that podcast they're in favor of ending the United Nations and creating a new United Nations. Correct. Because the United Nations is constantly like coming after them for the shit that they're doing. David J. Reilly [ 02:06:08 ] Right. And so that's where I think Cameron is very astute to point out that if it is, in fact, in our interest to leave the United Nations, we should. I think in the 1960s or 70s and 80s. You can see like the radical right in America was extremely anti-United Nations. And I think that they were for good reason at that time. I'm not entirely sure if we're still in that kind of a world. You know, we've had the United Nations around now for however many years at this point. I mean, it's obviously been, what, 40 years since the Ruby Ridge incident. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:06:40 ] So I do think things have changed to a certain degree, and I'm not entirely sure that letting go – The issues that bedevil the United States are all internal, okay? I mean, I'm not a huge fan of the UN necessarily, but that has little to do with our major existential problems at home. The other thing is that we've got to really cease and desist from the idea that the rest of the world— um, and, and ourselves live in a zero-sum game, you know. The world is very complicated. Our relationship with Iran, our relationship with Russia, our relationship with China, our relationship with the United Kingdom— um, in many respects should be myopic. Right? So we should have interests but not necessarily permanent friends. Instead, we've adopted a very different policy which basically is you're either with us or you're against us right? This is the Bush doctrine. That has not endeared us to large sections of the world, okay? And that's not in our interest, again, as Americans, in terms of trade, in terms of commerce, in terms of avoiding conflict. Trump seems to be sensible in the sense that he will sort of prosecute these relationships as one-offs, but he's got a lot of people in his administration that don't agree with that. And as we've established, right, it's continuity of government in terms of who's actually staffing. A lot of his administration. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:08:08 ] You mentioned Ruby Ridge, and I think you were talking about guns earlier too because it was a super chat, and it made me think about this thing that I just learned. I didn't know this before, but the big joke all around the country was like, oh, never buy a sawed-off shotgun from a random person. That originally comes from Ruby Ridge. That does come from Ruby Ridge. And I just learned that the other day. Really? Yeah. David J. Reilly [ 02:08:29 ] Man, that's incredible. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:08:30 ] Because he was the one who they were pursuing weapons charges against him because he bought a sawed-off shotgun. No, no, no. David J. Reilly [ 02:08:35 ] It was much worse than that. Basically, a BATF agent approached Randy Weaver. Randy had just finished running for sheriff of Boundary County. He was running on an anti-corruption platform. He was taking shots at the mafia-controlled Idaho State Police and the local sheriff at the time. And the ATF and the FBI did not like that nearly at all. And so from 1988 until 1993, they doggedly pursued him and tried to get him to commit crimes. And at a certain point, I think it was in 1991, the economic blockade against Randy Weaver and his family became so severe that he literally had no other choice to put food on his table than to. to do the illegal sawed-off shotgun thing because they were, like, going to starve. And so a federal informant brings him two shotguns and asks for them to be sawed off. He sawed them off, charged, I think, $300 a gun, and gave them back to the feds. That was clearly entrapment that would never have held up in court, and then they tried to use that against him to get him to turn into an informant. Up here. And so anyway, the rest is history. But yeah, that's where that comes from. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:09:50 ] That's interesting, because that ties into that Wounded Knee case. David J. Reilly [ 02:09:52 ] We are we are getting close, though. I mean, like there are rumblings. I've been seeing our local representative, Russ Fulcher, in the Congress calling for the ATF to be abolished. This is becoming a mainstream thing. And so, you know, I would like to see the ATF go bye bye. It'd be kind of fun to, you know, go back to the old days before 1986. Take your pew-pews out in a very responsible way, not in an insurrection, not against the government. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:10:21 ] And not in a sexual way either. Not in a sexual way. David J. Reilly [ 02:10:24 ] No, like you go out and you teach your kids how to, you know, go hunting. You teach them how to defend themselves. It's like a very normal, everybody in North Idaho does it. If you go shopping in North Idaho. like 50% of the people that you see are going to have guns on their arms. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:10:40 ] Yeah, open carry, yeah. David J. Reilly [ 02:10:41 ] It is an open carry state. As a matter of fact, just yesterday, a tranny went and testified down in the Boise capital with an AK-47 strapped on her back. His or her? It's back, whatever. Because we are one of the, we are one of the. Hey, you gotta laugh. Hey, you gotta laugh. Let's go. But we are one of the few, we are one of the few states. We are one of the few states where you can actually carry a firearm in the Capitol building during session, provided you check in with the ISP and prove that the chamber is empty, that the ammo, the whatever. Do that gesture more too. The clips, the clips, right? The clips, the magazines. You got to keep your magazines separate. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:11:25 ] I just wanted to point out to the audience, because I know a lot of you are really concerned about this, but to our human resource representatives, is Vincent James Foxx. So if we've said anything untoward or offensive. Please send him a comment, and he'll get back to you. David J. Reilly [ 02:11:42 ] Direct that to Vince, our HR director. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:11:44 ] We'll handle it. David J. Reilly [ 02:11:45 ] Beethoven sent $10. I love regurgitating Cam's monologues to my friends and sounding smart. France's government is collapsing due to U. S. monetary issues. I'm a genius now, and I don't even have to do the reading. We all do that. Yes, this is why you should tune in. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:12:02 ] As one Vince James has said to me many times, Cameron, where's the video version of the book that you recommended? David J. Reilly [ 02:12:10 ] Where's the audio version? Vincent James Foxx [ 02:12:12 ] I've said that many times. He sent me books, pictures of books, pictures of pages of books. Where's the movie? And I say, where is the audio book? You're like a Marvel brain, though. David J. Reilly [ 02:12:24 ] You do. We've all got some degree of brain. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:12:27 ] I was a little concerned, though, when you asked the question about Curious George. I don't know if there is a movie version. I need a YouTube short on that. David J. Reilly [ 02:12:35 ] I don't know. I've been reading the If You Give a Mouse a Cookie. I've been reading that book over and over for the past couple weeks. I should get some new reading in the hopper. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:12:45 ] Don't start reading your kid Dog Man. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:12:48 ] Isn't that a furry book? Dog Man? Oh my gosh. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:12:51 ] No, but he is surgically, maybe. I don't know. Cat Dog? No, Dog Man. David J. Reilly [ 02:12:58 ] That's weird. It's a weird kid's book. I don't like that. I like normal kids' books, like the Brothers Grimm, like the scary. Books about, like, eating children alive. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:13:06 ] I think that would traumatize Emmeline. David J. Reilly [ 02:13:09 ] Look at the Germans. They're fine. They turned out fine. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:13:11 ] Did they? German fairy tales are good. David J. Reilly [ 02:13:12 ] What about Where the Wild Things Are? Remember that? Yeah, she liked that. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:13:16 ] I thought she was ready for Finding Nemo, and she's been talking about how traumatizing it was in her sleep the last few nights. Yeah. David J. Reilly [ 02:13:23 ] We showed my four-year-old the Twin Towers the other day. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:13:26 ] Yeah, no. David J. Reilly [ 02:13:26 ] Yeah, she's fine with it. She's like, oh, those are the bad guys. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:13:28 ] Are you kidding me? My son's generation is like, it's like a meme. 9-11 is, like, a meme to them now. Yeah. They just, like, joke about it. Yeah, they have no, like, there's no anything. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:13:41 ] Is my 4-year-old ready for 9/11? David J. Reilly [ 02:13:44 ] I don’t think so. We’re going to keep the 9-11 stuff until they’re much, much older. But, you know, like Lord of the Rings. I don’t know. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:13:51 ] I think that’s our parenting rep. Yeah. So Vince is H. R. Dave’s parenting. There we go. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:13:56 ] We grew up with Goosebumps where the wild things are. Scary stories. Never. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:14:01 ] Rotten dot com. Totally unrestricted Internet access at age 10. Well, I don’t know about that. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:14:06 ] Are you afraid of the dark? Yeah. Are you afraid of the dark? Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:14:09 ] You’re telling me you weren’t using the internet to look at like suicide pictures and stuff when you were 10? Vincent James Foxx [ 02:14:13 ] No, we didn’t really have it. Like only like the rich people had the computers. Wow. But you're younger, right? I'm 37. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:14:20 ] Whoa. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:14:21 ] So you're just only a year younger than me. But yeah. What the fuck? I didn't have like internet access until like. Teens, like later teens. David J. Reilly [ 02:14:31 ] I had internet access in the late 90s. And we had the first internet computer. The first internet computer. Oh, my God. It was 1995. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:14:40 ] You just made a noise when I said I'm 37. You just said the first internet computer. David J. Reilly [ 02:14:45 ] The first internet. Interwebs and the interwebs. I'm turning 36 on Friday, too, by the way. We got to go get cigars. Yeah, okay. How old are you? Vincent James Foxx [ 02:14:55 ] 38. Oh. I'm the youngest one on the show? Wow. Yeah, you are the youngest one. No, but the thing is, only the rich people had computers when I was a kid. The better off people had computers. Yeah. And it was really crazy when you would go into one of your friend's houses and they would have the Gateway computer with the cow print on it. Yeah, I remember that. It's like, oh, fuck, you got a Gateway computer? David J. Reilly [ 02:15:15 ] Yeah. I still remember using the old big floppy disk to play like Math Blaster and whatever games those were. I'm dating myself. We're all dating ourselves. We should be more appealing to Zoomers. Muff Muffington sent $5. Thanks, Mr. Muff. Trump might have to crank up the money printer, weakening the dollar. This could create a chance to ride a market blow off top like 20/21. Take advantage while you can. You'll need all the funds possible to weather the challenges of the coming years. I agree with Muff Muffington. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:15:45 ] Don't start talking about Bitcoin. David J. Reilly [ 02:15:46 ] Kim, what do you think about that? Cameron MacGregor [ 02:15:49 ] Yeah, so this is a good question. This is topical. So I actually was just at a conference, a gold conference, and a lot of people there are very bullish, as I'm sure Dave is, and they could be right. There's no question that the federal government is going to print money. We know that. The danger to me, the existential crisis that the Trump administration faces, as I said before, is the fiscal deterioration of the U. S. budget. It's the bond market. As we speak, the U. K. bond market-they sell gilts; we have U. S. Treasury bonds, and they call them gilts. I think they're the yield. So, the interest rate on their 10-year gilt is about 5 percent. Now, that doesn't sound like a lot. But when you have trillions in our case in debt, it's massive. And that means that interest payments are becoming as big as defense budgets. Once you get into that scenario, then all of a sudden, all kinds of bizarre things start to happen. An example of this is if you go back to September 2024, the Fed basically dropped the Fed funds rate, and they have two or three drops since. And interest rates in the bond market, historically, they will fall with the Fed funds rate. The opposite happened this time. So interest rates on the national debt went straight up, as they have in the UK as well. This is an existential crisis. And the UK, I think, is going to, the government is going to collapse there. I know that sounds uh draconian it sounds uh apocalyptic i'm telling you guys the PM over there is in big trouble I'm in Canada right now the Canadian government is in big trouble the US. A government too, Trump thinks that he's going to to sort of resurrect us through tariffs. I don't think it's going to go that way. I say all that to say this: Yeah, they're going to put money. That doesn't necessarily mean, however, that the stock market is going to go through the roof or that Bitcoin will go through the roof. It could mean exactly the opposite. I'm not saying that with certainty. I don't know. I'm just saying we're in a very dangerous environment now. And as I said, I don't think the Trump administration and Donald Trump really understands that. I really don't. They don't seem to treat this with the seriousness that they should. David J. Reilly [ 02:18:05 ] You know, it is maybe. Cam can speak to this, or maybe we're spending too much time on a $5 super chat, but look at what killed the Habsburg Empire. It wasn't war. It wasn't any of that stuff. It was compound interest. Compound interest killed the Habsburg Empire, and they owned all of the gold mines in the West. And it became to the point where the interest payments on the loans that they had taken out became more than the gold that they could even produce, as rapidly as they could. You know, ultimately what led to the collapse of the Habsburgs. And that's the situation that we're quickly approaching here. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:18:42 ] Yeah, that's exactly right, Dave. And look, you go back to the 18th century in France, right before the revolution. There's a good book, actually, that I'm reading now, which is all about inflation in the lead up to that revolution. And they had a guy named John Law, who was a swindler. He was a Ponzi schemer. He was a Bernie Madoff. And he basically persuaded Louis XV that you could print money. And it worked for a while. It did. And then the public started to ask questions. And they actually, this is true if you want to look it up, they hired actors and paraded them down the streets of Paris to convince the French population that they had found a new mine. In the French colonies, and that that new mine was going to backstop the currency. It was all a lie. It was a fraud. But it bought them a little bit more time. As Dave said, we are in exactly that same position. And the External Revenue Service is not quite the theatrics of a new mine, but it's not that far off either. We're close. We're close to the edge of a financial Vesuvius, a financial volcano. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:19:48 ] That is very, very good. That's a clip. David J. Reilly [ 02:19:51 ] That is a clip. Now we've got another clip, maybe, maybe not. I don't know, but this is a, this is probably the most important $10 super chat that I've ever seen. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:20:00 ] Oh no, is this about Bitcoin? David J. Reilly [ 02:20:02 ] No, it's way, way more interesting than that. From DSM URL, speaking of H1Bs, I was the last American engineer at Rumble. They fired all. What? I was specifically fired because I was American and told so. I wrote locals . com. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:20:21 ] Holy shit. If you're willing to say that in a super chat, are you under NDA? Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:20:27 ] I'm sure he hasn't signed an NDA. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:20:29 ] Come on our show. Come on the show. David J. Reilly [ 02:20:31 ] We'll have you on. We'll do a special Twitter stream. We'll do a special live stream with you, DSM URL. Please get in touch with us. DM me or Dave. DM any of us. I think we all have open DMs. Info at thebacklash .net. We would love to hear about your story because that that's concerning, I've been, I'm a shareholder of Rumble, I own we love Rumble, I own 100 shares, it's not that much, I know, but like you know, uh, their commitment to free speech has seemed important, but not at the expense of American jobs, that's not good, no um, that's crazy, so D'SM URL please get in touch with us, I'd like to hear more about your story, yeah, it is concerning, especially because the Trump administration has been taken over by the tech bros. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:21:18 ] Right. And they have no qualms, as Trump hinted a moment ago or the clip that you played earlier at about hiring foreign workers to to come into the United States. So this is a crisis that we're facing. These are middle-class jobs. This guy, who worked at Rumble, probably had a good salary, had healthcare, and it's gone. And no one cares. No one cares. I care. We care. We care. Incredible. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:21:47 ] It's even worse than just the tech bros taking over and, like, the immigration thing. Like, they're legit. Like, they have legit ties to, like, we just saw with Oracle. With Larry Ellison. Larry Ellison. Alex Karp, who said that he created software to single-handedly defeat the far-right rise in Europe. These are the people that are now basically controlling the AFD and all these nationalist parties. It's way worse than people think. No, it is. It is. David J. Reilly [ 02:22:20 ] Buff Muffington sent another five dollars. Trump should target Customs and Border Patrol funding to dismantle NPR and affiliates, defund activist nonprofits, and cut academia's influence. These institutions fuel an ecosystem of neo-Bolsheviks working to undermine Heritage America. Time to disrupt their stronghold. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:22:39 ] So they should not defund NPR. And here's why. Rebecca is incredulous every time I talk about how clownishly stupid everybody in the D.C. Zip code is for all for those of you who are equally dubious about that, about my claims, my rather voracious claims on that point. Just listen to NPR. OK, I think the last segment I heard and I periodically do listen to it because I live I live in the D. C. area some part of the year. And it's just sort of the default channel that comes on in the car sometimes. Their last segment, I think, was about QAnon and how QAnon is taking over the Trump administration. So that's what you're dealing with in D. C. And it is absolutely a mirror into the clownish stupidity of the D. C. elite. David J. Reilly [ 02:23:32 ] Now, it's interesting. So your position is not to defund NPR. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:23:37 ] To keep it going somewhat. I'm being somewhat. No, I get it. David J. Reilly [ 02:23:40 ] I was just going to say, because I passed a resolution at the GOP state convention in the 2022. I wrote a whole resolution calling for NPR to be defunded in Idaho and it passed. And so that is the will of the Idaho Republican Party to destroy and defund NPR. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:24:00 ] their moat, their, what is the, who listens to NPR? Yeah. It's like, what, what is the, how is this even like at the top of your list of things to, I'm talking about like boomers conservatives now, right? Like, why is this even a thing that. Yeah. Like, let's talk about other things. Let's talk about immigration. You can't walk and chew gum at the same time, right? David J. Reilly [ 02:24:21 ] But, you know. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:24:22 ] I can't. It's like Trump saying, 'no, there's only two genders.' It's like, really? Yeah, we know. Are we still on this? Are we talking about this? Like, let's talk about the 10 million people that crossed in the past two years. Let's talk about, let's take care of them. David J. Reilly [ 02:24:37 ] It's kind of sad that doing the bare minimum. Really riles everyone up like they're winning. And it's like, this is the bare minimum. This is the problem. This is the minimum amount of what should be done. We're on our last page of these. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:24:53 ] Well, NPR covers Black Girl Magic a lot, so it would be a real tragedy if they cut that program. David J. Reilly [ 02:25:01 ] Black Girl Magic. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:25:03 ] I'm totally serious, Vince. Look it up. Black girl magic? Have you never heard of this? No, what is black girl magic? Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:25:10 ] It's like their racial consciousness about how being a black woman has some kind of inherent magic. It's black girl magic. They say it about stuff all the time. I did a bad job explaining that, but Beyoncé, he's black girl magic. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:25:25 ] Yeah, Vince, you look like you might be an authority on black girl magic. I have black girl magic. I'm surprised you don't know anything about it. As the HR rep, you should be intimately familiar with that topic. We might have to get a new HR rep, folks. David J. Reilly [ 02:25:37 ] I think as long as Vince self-identifies as a 300-pound black woman, we're fine. Well, he is. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:25:41 ] There was a movie that was coming out that reminds me of this. I have to see if I can find it. I need to bring my AI. David J. Reilly [ 02:25:48 ] We're going to get your laptop in. Thanks. By the way, this past week we had somebody send in some gear that we need to help make the show even better. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:25:57 ] That is so awesome. David J. Reilly [ 02:25:58 ] So this was like nearly a thousand dollar piece of equipment. We've got another piece, I believe, coming from the guy. I put my own money in to get some more equipment. So we should be able to get all three cameras going, two laptops minimum, plus room to expand for guests. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:26:13 ] I have it on good authority that this is the first episode where the audio has been perfect. David J. Reilly [ 02:26:17 ] The audio is perfect, but I fat-fingered the stream button. It's okay. We're moving forward. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:26:22 ] Your set looks great, Dave. Thank you. I like the new camera. Yeah. The new angle. The new angle is good with cam. David J. Reilly [ 02:26:30 ] We can all look at cam. It's great. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:26:33 ] I don't know. Hey, guys, I'm going to have to drop off. All right, we'll see you, Cam. Take care. I don't know if that other thing is coming, but it says it's purchased on the Amazon wish list. We do have an Amazon wish list up at thebacklash. net. Cameron's right. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:26:49 ] We are going to have to hustle through these because I have to pee so bad. David J. Reilly [ 02:26:52 ] Hold on a second. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:26:53 ] Why did I drink all that tea? David J. Reilly [ 02:26:54 ] Now I've got this goofy thing that's going to be on the camera. What? Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:26:58 ] What did I ever do to you, Vince, besides getting you sick right now? Vincent James Foxx [ 02:27:02 ] I hope you didn't. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:27:03 ] I for sure did. I will kill you. I drank out of your cup a bunch. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:27:07 ] Geez. No, you didn't. I've been watching this. Really? Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:27:11 ] Because you said you lost track of it. David J. Reilly [ 02:27:13 ] You should check the rim for lipstick. Anonymous sent $5. We're thinking about this the wrong way. The question is, what is the cost to get Cam next to Trump? Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:27:20 ] Oh, yeah. David J. Reilly [ 02:27:21 ] Yeah. True. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:27:22 ] Wouldn't that be something? David J. Reilly [ 02:27:23 ] Vegas 96 sent $25. Thank you, Vegas. Sup, guys. Great show. Greetings to the best streamer, Vince. Are you guys black-pilled or white-pilled about Idaho politics going the way of Boise? Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:27:36 ] I'm gray-pilled. I'm black-pilled about it, yeah. Boise's crazy. Boise is crazy. There's been some stuff going on. David J. Reilly [ 02:27:42 ] There's this fight that's been happening now between the Idaho Freedom Caucus and the State Freedom Caucus Network. And maybe we can actually have an episode about that. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:27:51 ] Wait, hang on. Hang on. Isn't there a mayor? The mayor is like gay, right? David J. Reilly [ 02:27:58 ] Laurie McLean, she's Jewish too. She's gay and Jewish. Yeah. Of Boise. So that just tells you how she is. She's like an ADL person. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:28:05 ] I don't know if she's gay, but she wore these gay socks in this Pride parade. She goes to Pride parades. Okay, so the fact that that's happening in Boise just goes to tell you, just shows you, like, which way Boise is going. David J. Reilly [ 02:28:15 ] People need to show up. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:28:17 ] Anyway. David J. Reilly [ 02:28:17 ] People need to show up for local politics. Warlock Wisdom sent $5. Liz Truss said in an interview that she tried to bring in reforms but had a metaphorical gun put to her head preventing her. Are all Western governments compromised? Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:28:29 ] Yes. David J. Reilly [ 02:28:31 ] Basically, yeah. Yeah. We haven't really seen an independent anything in a while. Big Mad Lad sent $5 for Cameron. We'll read this again when he's here next week. Cameron, would you ever consider running for office? You're a great natural leader with all the right opinions. We need politicians like you. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:28:46 ] That's true. That's true. Totally. We need the elite. We need people to go to college. We need people like Cameron who are going to be on our side. David J. Reilly [ 02:28:53 ] True. Mermaid Marie sent $25. Got to give a tip. Thanks for showing up, Rebecca, but sorry, you're sick. Been looking forward to the show. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:29:01 ] Appreciate it. David J. Reilly [ 02:29:02 ] And let's see, we've got, how do I trigger this? Do I get to trigger this? Well, anyway. Are you allowed to say Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:29:10 ] 'trigger' without being called an insurrectionist? David J. Reilly [ 02:29:12 ] I don't know. Soaker City sent $5 on entropy. The Russian Ministry of Defense has accused Bill Gates of bioterrorism, intending to cause population reduction. Massive implications. What is that playing there? Vincent James Foxx [ 02:29:25 ] What is that? Look, it's playing a Trump clip while we read the Super Chat. David J. Reilly [ 02:29:29 ] It's playing the old stream because I fat-fingered it. Oh, I see. And we had that one from Streamlight. That's it. We're all caught up. We got all of them. We are all there. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:29:42 ] Thank you guys so much. So I have it on good authority that we're going to be launching some merch soon. Yes. And some products that we have been working on. I have a prototype in my purse right now. And that we are going to have a very special in-studio guest next week. Wow. Can you really call him a guest? David J. Reilly [ 02:30:01 ] Next week. Next week. I believe so. Really? Vincent James Foxx [ 02:30:04 ] Yeah. Okay. You better be. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:30:07 ] You better not go anywhere, buddy. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:30:09 ] I thought we were going to have Alex Rosen on. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:30:10 ] Oh, yeah, that's right. He's not going to be in studio. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:30:12 ] Not in studio, though, but he'll be on. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:30:14 ] Okay, well. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:30:15 ] We can bring him on. Yeah, we can bring him on. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:30:17 ] You're supposed to pick him up from the airport, so you need to get on the Telegram chat, okay? Vincent James Foxx [ 02:30:21 ] Yes. Oh, is that happening next week? That's next week. Oh, okay. Whoops. Wait, I can't pick. Who put me in charge of picking them up from the airport? You volunteered for it. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:30:32 ] This week on The Backlash. Vincent James Foxx [ 02:30:34 ] Thank you. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:30:35 ] We really appreciate it. Check us out on X at Real Backlash. You can send your super chats to thebacklash. net/ super chat or / donate. What else? Is there anything else? Send us a Bitcoin. David J. Reilly [ 02:30:46 ] Send us a Bitcoin. Go to our website, thebacklash. net. We have a Bitcoin fundraiser. We can accept your Bitcoin there, and we would use it very wisely, not spend it, get a loan with it. So anyway. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:31:01 ] I didn't agree to any of this. David J. Reilly [ 02:31:02 ] Me neither. 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