Interview · January 27, 2026

Episode 111 — The Illusion of Normal: Pete Quiñones on Power, Collapse, and Cultural Revolt

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In this episode of The Backlash, Rebecca Hargraves is joined by Pete Quiñones for a hard, unsparing conversation about why so many Americans insist on pretending everything is fine while the country visibly comes apart.

We dig into the illusion of normalcy, the impossible demands being placed on ICE, and why institutional failure isn’t a bug—it’s a feature. Pete breaks down what should have happened on day one of Trump’s presidency, why meaningful accountability was never on the table, and how the system relies on controlled failure to prevent any real alternative from gaining power.

From there, we zoom out: where power actually resides in a diffused, managerial regime; whether there is a “head of the snake”; and how one fights a system designed to be nowhere and everywhere at once. We also explore what a genuine cultural revolt would look like, who should be involved, and in what capacity—along with the emergence of racial consciousness and whether it can serve as a genuine “white pill” rather than another dead end.

This is a sober, strategic discussion about collapse, reform, and the narrowing window between being conquered and choosing to radically change course.

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Backlash — Episode 111 n Episode 111 — The Illusion of Normal Pete Quin ones on Power, Collapse, and Cultural Revolt Backlash — Episode 111 0:02:30 Rebecca I am your host Rebecca Hargraves, joined as always by Mr. Dave Riley. How are you doing? I'm doing good, how are you? Why didn't you tell me you were wearing a suit, I wouldn't be dressed in a costume all afternoon. I don't know. 0:02:57 Dave gonna wear like a this or like a hoodie and I felt like Pete deserved better. 0:03:02 Rebecca Oh come on. Don't throw me under the bus like that. You can find us on X at real backlash our website the backlash.net support us on subscribe star.com slash the backlash patreon.com slash the backlash. Why did I make this so hard? We shouldn't have named the show this. Send your super chats that will be read live at the end of our show to the backlash.net slash super chat or right here on my YouTube channel or on our YouTube channel. Please sub on there. We're gonna start exclusively streaming on our YouTube channel at real backlash in a few months. You can find us on rumble that is backlash podcast. Find all of our links at the backlash.net slash subscribe. We got a tick talk for the young kids. 0:03:44 Dave We got it. There's an Instagram. There's a new one called like upscroll. Have you 0:03:48 Rebecca heard about this? Just another thing. Okay. I know it's too much. Thank you so much for joining us today. A big thank you to our sponsors that is OD G G supply. If you want to go blanket mode, if you if you want to go gorilla mode, they are your folks above time coffee roasters that is small batch handcrafted white positive coffee. Anilop Hill. I messed this up already. No, I messed it up. Uh, publishers of white positive literature and North Idaho tallow, uh, skincare without endocrine disruptors. Without further ado, we have one of our favorite guests back on the show. He always has interesting things to say. Mr. Pete Kenyona's host of the Pete Kenyona's show. Hello, Pete. How you doing? Hey, how are you doing? Well, we're doing well. I just finished, um, your latest stream with stormer and the name escapes me. Why don't I write this down? 0:04:49 Dave Stormy, stormy, stormer, stormer. We talked daily. It was so good. I have so 0:04:57 Rebecca many questions about it. You guys talk about the breakdown of society about, um, the inability of people to, to see the truth because of their fear. You cover so many topics. I have so many questions about it. Um, if you're amenable to, to answering them, um, the first question I have, so I wanted to have a little discussion around why people are choosing to act like things in this country aren't so bad. I mean, I understand this allegiance to, to Trump. I understand that psychologically because people have given up so much to support Trump. And it's very difficult to be like, I was wrong. I lost all these personal relationships for a guy that has that did not pull through. And in general, I think people don't like to admit that they were wrong about something. But, um, I'm saying a lot of other people that are just saying, well, Backlash — Episode 111 things aren't that bad. I mean, they're just constantly white pilling. I've, even though the reality of the situation is obviously to anybody that's paying attention is much more bleak. So could you talk a little bit about the psychology of these people that are completely unwilling to recognize the reality of our situation in America? 0:06:06 Dave I think a lot of the younger people are not falling for that. I think a lot of the older people who, you know, lived through George W. Bush and lived through Obama and have never really seen a win in their life are willing to look at something like Venezuela. Oh, we went in, went out. We arrested a communist because, you know, we're still fighting the Cold War. In the Communist Party of Venezuela hates the guy. So I mean, I don't know. They want to, they're so desperate for a win that they're willing to accept anything. And it doesn't improve their, their life. Getting Greenland wouldn't improve their life. It will improve Ronald Lauder's wife a life. It's what we, what we're seeing is we're seeing a gigantic distraction. We're seeing, look, we can do these things overseas and we can talk shit on world leaders, but home. Well, you just lost Virginia. And in my opinion, the GOP gave Virginia to the, to the Lib Tard Reich and allowed them to do everything that they're doing. There's no reason that you run a Jamaican black woman in Virginia. Otherwise, someone who was, who denounced Charlottesville to the point where she was for getting rid of the Confederate statues, but that's your, that's who you want. People who have a, albeit maybe, just a little bit of a growing white consciousness. That you want them to vote for her. You want them to get excited for her. You know, they just, I think they did that on purpose, that it was suicide. So Virginia now belongs to, it did that on the regime that's existed for, you know, 100 years. Minnesota obviously does. The only answer to Minnesota is martial law, arresting every politician, burning the flag, declaring year zero and starting all over again. It's the only answer to it. Right. It's not, you know, sending ICE into arrest violent criminals is a very violent illegal. This is a very good, you know, that's a good thing to do. But as somebody who is very well read on the Waco, you, the feds do not do well if they don't have local law enforcement support. It's just, it's almost impossible. You can see there are cities around the country right now where ICE is, and they're moving people out very peacefully and very calmly because they have the help of local law enforcement. And they also don't have a regime of, that has been built in Minnesota, which basically allows the governor to take the side of, you know, the worst people in society, tax feeders, 65 IQ tax feeders, the lieutenant governor who is running signal groups to help orchestrate, you know, ICE block or whatever this is. And, you know, you had a Minnesota politician, state politician get assassinated last year, who just happened to be the one person in the state who was speaking up against, you know, what was going on in the state. 0:09:53 Rebecca Right. And I think she knew, I think she made some comments that her life was in danger and that she was worried she was going to get killed. And the person that ended up killing her targeted some other similar politicians as well. But she knew what she was in for. I mean, I don't think we're going to be able to fight this through the system. And I hear you talk a lot about that. And I know that you've said that ICE is up against something. It's just impossible for them to achieve. So what Trump, what should have, what should Trump have done on day one of his Backlash — Episode 111 presidency to prevent something like this from happening? Because I think that we're seeing all this messy behavior with ICE because they did not get ahead of the situation and they're fighting 0:10:35 Dave a losing battle. Well, the only way that Trump could have achieved what he needed to achieve on day one was to basically become a dictator. And he wasn't going to do that. He wants to be liked too much. In my opinion, he wants 0:10:51 Cameron people, even he wants his enemies to like him too. He seems to be that kind of 0:10:57 Dave person. Really, when you look at like the structure of corruption that has been built in a place like Minnesota, it's on par with what the regime tells you the Victorian Newlands tell you that Russia is probably even more so because Tim Walson, Lieutenant Governor, I think Flanagan and all these people, they wouldn't be so bold in what they're doing. If they, and they wouldn't be like, no, screw you, Trump. If they didn't have people in Washington, DC, in the deep state, administrative state, whatever you want to call it, who are backing them, who are going to make sure that the money keeps flowing to them and is going to make sure that the National Guard is going to hand out donuts and coffee to the protesters and not come in and help ICE. You have an immigration problem that can only be solved by making the conditions on the ground so uncomfortable for people that they self-deport. You basically have to cut everything off, cut off their support networks. You have to make NGOs illegal. You have things that... What? My bad, my bad. I was playing a clip of showing them handing out the donuts. I didn't have them muted. My apologies. Yeah. No, no. And the things that you have to do are year zero kind of things where you break everything and you start all over again. And there is just not the will of anybody to do that. And the people who do have the will to do that and talk about it and articulate it, I think, in an educated way, are going to be purposely shut out of government. And I think that Virginia is like a prime example of it. And I think the GOP is basically committing suicide. 0:13:16 Rebecca In your discussion... Oh, my apologies. 0:13:20 Dave Yeah. I think Virginia shows that... I mean, there's no way they didn't know that they weren't going to get elected. They knew who Spanberger was. I mean, they run that woman in the GOP against a known... Someone who works for the CIA, they know exactly who she is. So there's no way... This is conquest third law. Your organization has to be infiltrated by people who are against you, working against you. And I think that's what the administration is. I think there are people very close to Trump. I think that the Zionists, since October 7th, watching the anti-Zionists and what they call anti-Semitic attitudes growing and finding out that there are people in the Heritage Foundation and there are people in the administration who... One of the big things on the hill right now is 0:14:21 Cameron Backlash — Episode 111 like every office trying to find out who's a secret griper and get rid of them. 0:14:26 Dave And I think they figured out that there's no breaks on this train when it comes to noticing. So the one thing that they're going to do is that they're going to be like, okay, so the GOP is the one place where they'll... They have a chance to be hired and infiltrate. Then we need to destroy it. Oh, yeah. This is the... I was going to say, this is the chick that... Zionists and Jews don't care whether they rule from the right or the left. They don't, indeed. It's all about... It's all about Jewish interest. And so you destroy... I mean, the best case scenario is for them is you get someone like Mitt Romney or a George W. Bushite back in there, which would be to me like a Ronda Sanchez type or someone like that. Or you just destroy it completely and you're like, okay, so we just rule from the left now. And I don't... This is what I'm seeing when everybody else is like, look at all the amazing things Trump is doing. Well, I mean, if I'm sitting here with an arterial spray is coming out of my leg, out of my thigh, and you hand me a bandaid, well, that's not going to help. So this isn't like... You're not going to stop this cancer by treatment, a little bit of a treatment here and a little bit of treatment there. You have to attack it head-on. And that's not going to happen. 0:16:04 Rebecca One of the people that you were interviewing, I'm not sure which one, said that we need to give the youth the language and the ability to air their grievances if we want to prevent violence. And I was just thinking, that ship has sailed. I don't know how we could possibly do that, because in many ways, although we didn't realize it, that's what we were all trying to do for a while. We were trying to give them the ability to fight these things on the ground level where they could. I mean, do you see a reality where there's not a violent outcome? 0:16:40 Dave There's violent. The violence already started. Yeah, absolutely. The violence started five years ago. The violence started 10 years ago. I mean, really, you can go back to the Michael Brown shooting in Missouri. And they've just built upon that and built upon that. Then 2020, people forget that... I can't remember if their number is 38 or 40. American citizens were murdered in the streets during the George Floyd riots. Nobody wants to talk about that. And now you basically have... What I assume are... I mean, I know the guy who got killed this past weekend looks like the happy merchant. So, I mean, I'm not kind of... It's so bad. Look at this. I did an interview yesterday and I was like, oh yeah. Well, I guess ICE is like killing Jews in the streets of Minneapolis. Now, apparently he's Italian, allegedly. There's no way. He looks like he's straight out of Hobart HQ. Come on. He looks like an anti-Semitic propaganda cartoon. Look at that guy's face. I mean, Julia Stryker couldn't have drawn that. But what you'd have is you have, especially when it comes to Minnesota, if you have Native Minnesota and is out there protesting, then I mean, you have heritage American whites out there protesting. I mean, what the hell is going on here? How do you solve that problem? How do you change these people's minds? You don't. The problem is that everybody thinks that, oh, we'll just unleash law enforcement. We'll just unleash the feds. Well, I just wish... The rot is existential and it's foundational. People in... There is a class of people in this Backlash — Episode 111 country that could be as high as 25 to 30% who are radical leftists. They are on the level of Bolsheviks. Oh, yeah. If you're not willing to... I mean, I don't give a fuck about Ukraine or Russia or what's happening in Nigeria or especially that piece of shit country in the Middle East. We have states here that are lost. Virginia is lost. Minnesota is lost. California is lost. Texas is being overrun by Pajits. Oh, yeah. I mean, and you're... Oh, well, hey, we got Maduro. We got... Because Maduro was a bad guy, probably was. Most world leaders are. Most world leaders are. I know he was no friends of the Jews, but that probably has absolutely nothing to do with it. But I'll say that and people are like, well, we have to worry about overseas too. I'm like, you don't understand what's happening here. I mean, I live in Alabama. I know this wasn't a big deal because it's not... That shit's not going to happen here. But in Birmingham, Alabama the other day, Jewish voices for peace were protesting. And it looked... I mean, the first guy looked like a Julius Stryker painting. The second person was trans and then they brought a BLM person up there. They live streamed it. The comments were all laughing at them, telling them fuck around and find out because that's the way Alabama is. But I mean, you... Texas? Texas has probably one of the worst state governments on the planet. Wheels, their governor has... How many times has he visited India 0:20:48 Rebecca to talk about trade? Good lord. Seven, eight. State government too. That's so outlandish. For the audience, I wanted to say something really quick, but I agree that 25 to 30% are probably akin to Bolsheviks in the United States. But in 1917, Bolsheviks started around 24,000 members in February. They only grew to 200 to 350,000 by the October Revolution. So this represented a tiny fraction of the population of over 150 million. And look... Less than 1%. Yeah, look what they were able to accomplish. Jews were 2% of the population, but they were 50% of the Bolsheviks. And look at what a huge problem this is going to be in terms of numbers in the United States. You're right. I think people have no idea what's going on domestically. And I mean, interrupt. Go 0:21:36 Dave ahead. And it's going on in Boise too. It's going on in Boise too. Here's just to reinforce what Pete was saying. There's a reason why Tolugu is one of the fastest growing languages in Texas. Oh my gosh. Greg Abbott has proven he's more loyal to India than to Texans. You know, hello. Look at those numbers. You've got 39,000 Tolugu speakers in Texas. And of course, where's ICE in Texas? Right. ICE isn't in Texas. They're in fucking Minnesota. Hello. 0:22:08 Rebecca Man, I don't even know where this is. Speakers of Tolugu. And just to point out... Oh, it's the 0:22:17 Dave Southern Pacific. We had this bill here in Idaho last year. I was on the phone like right before we went live. We had this bill in Idaho last year that banned the trans progress flag. We banned gay flags from city property. So our Bolshevik Jewish mayor, Lauren McLean in Boise made the trans progress pride flag an official city flag. Okay. And so they kept it up. They were able to skirt the law by changing the Backlash — Episode 111 definition of the trans progress pride flag to, oh, this is our city flag now. Oh yeah. So our base legislators were like, all right, you want to play like that? Fine. Fuck you. We're going to ban city flags altogether. We're just going to get rid of them. And so now we've got Republican representatives Bruce Skog and Joe Alfieri. And I helped get Joe Alfieri elected, by the way. He would not have his seat if I didn't run for governor in 22. They voted against this new bill that would have finally banned gay flags from city property. And he said that he was supporting Representative Skog's motion. Okay. Well, who's Representative Skog? Oh, he's one of the guys that flew over to Israel and planted the Idaho flag in Gaza. And he's like over there, kissing the wall, sucking up to all of these. Yeah. And this is Idaho, Idaho government. 0:23:55 Rebecca Can you imagine how bad it is in other states? And you talked about this a little bit on your last stream, but there are legal presidents galore. If you're not willing to observe the law, then the law doesn't offer anybody any legal protections. And I think that we can look at ICE and we can all say that there's not going to be a systemic solution here. And it's becoming increasingly frustrating to try to describe this to the average American, which is why you talk about vanguardism all the time, which is one of my favorite things about you, Pete. How do you see this emerging over the next few years? Well, I mean, I think the midterms and not even because 0:24:35 Dave Trump has done a bad job just from history that the Republicans are going to lose the midterms. Now, there could be a gigantic get out to vote with MAGA and everything, but honestly, I don't know how a lot of people who voted for Trump feel other than like the people who are hyper online, but that's not the majority of people. We already know that the majority of people don't even vote in the midterm. So if Trump loses, if the Republican party loses control of the house, then you're going to see just stalemate for two years of more impeachment kind of things. And they're not passing any laws any way now, which of course is just lets you know that they're not serious. Everything's being done by executive order, and executive order can be turned over by the next administration. And also executive orders need to be enforced. Laws need to be enforced. It's tired to say, just enforce the laws on the books now, but that's exactly what should be done. Like I said before, we're in an existential crisis. The foundation of who we are as a people has been cracked. I mean, I would be like, I don't care about Maduro. This is retarded. We have our problems here. And then guys on our side, guys who are purely J-Pill, like 100% J-Pill would be like, oh, so you like Maduro now? So you like Communists? It's like, you're acting like a Jew. You're arguing like a Jew. It's the same thing when you're like, you know, oh, fuck Israel and everything. Oh, so you like Hamas. Now you're arguing like a Jew. It's the whole thing about how you'll have these fucking retards be like, we just need to kick every Jew out of the country. I'm like, and what do you think would change? Listen to the way you argue. Listen to the way the financial system works. Look at the way everything works. It's been completely Judaized. You don't understand that from a fundamental level, it's broken. We've been subverted. And you're not, and you're not, most people aren't willing to go through the pain that it would take to fix that because it will be painful. Yeah, may, there may be currency crisis. There may be Backlash — Episode 111 real estate crisis. There may be, if any of these people who talk shit online own a house or own anything. The point about vanguardism is that these people who just talk shit and don't really understand how deep the rot is, how fundamentally fucked we are. They shouldn't have a say. When you're trying to rebuild something, you don't want people who argue, are you like Jews to be in the conversation? You want people who can look and be like, don't feel like they have to be like, oh yeah, Trump did something really cool. We got a commie and everything. A commie, yeah. Soviet Union fell over 30 years ago. Can we stop talking about commies? Communist dictators. 0:28:20 Rebecca Yeah, absolutely. 0:28:22 Dave I was going to say, speaking of arguing like a Jew, we have this interesting article that came out. I don't think you've seen this yet. It came from the New York Times yesterday. Yeah, yesterday. Look at this. Minneapolis and Gaza now share the same violent language. It's funny because we've been seeing people that are talking about, oh, ISIS. ISIS trained by the IDF. ISIS is Zionist paramilitary organization being used by Trump. You would think that New York Times running an article about how Minneapolis and Gaza now share the same violent language. You immediately think, ah, I know where they're going with this. But when you read the article, Hamas and ICE share one very visible trait that I never thought I'd see in the United States. All of their foot soldiers wear masks. 0:29:20 Rebecca They're really grasping at straws here. 0:29:23 Dave We've got like, and this comes down to who's the mayor of Minneapolis, right? He's this Jewish guy. So you've got New York Times running these pieces to radicalize Jews against ICE by comparing them to Hamas. And that's happening on the right. And then on the left, you've got these people, oh yeah, ICE is just like the IDF. What the fuck? 0:29:51 Rebecca Well, everybody wants to use a current timeline to support their niche political ideology. That's probably what's going on. Geez, that's hilarious. How do they manage to do that? 0:30:05 Dave I mean, looking at the present through the president's eyes only, I mean, you saw that at the beginning of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Oh, this came out of nowhere. Putin woke up one day and he had sand in his vagina and he just decided to invade Ukraine. You have to look at everything from a historical standpoint. And that's why the problem, the answer is the solutions are not as easy as people think. Well, ICE can just go in there and use force and they can do this. They just, people need to get out of the way. No, actually, there are a lot of cities where ICE is not having to use force at all because they have the help of local law Backlash — Episode 111 enforcement and state law enforcement. Now, if, you know, these protesters are insane, first of all, I mean, I don't, I'm not going to celebrate the death of my enemy because I'm not a Jew. I'm not, you know, I don't need to make T-shirts, you know, T-shirts like the IDF. I don't need to make memes and stuff because I'm not a Jew. And as far as I know, you know, white people, historically white people respected their enemies even in defeat, even after they defeated them. Jews are the ones that mock and, you know, wear T-shirts about how we shot a pregnant woman. We killed a pregnant woman. So we got two for one. And so, you know, if that's what you're doing, if you're out there mocking these people who, you know, even though they're really shitty people, you know, like Mike Shelby says all the time, hey, at least they're out there doing, you know, it's kind of brave for them to go up against armed people. You know, whatever you think of these people, I think they're some of the worst people. And I would deport every single one of them into the middle of the sun, but, you know, you have to look and go, I mean, what they believe is fucked up. But at least they're acting upon acting upon it and they're willing to die. And, you know, if they're willing to die, you know, not gonna, you know, not gonna mock them in death. I suppose, I mean, that's not sorry. 0:32:24 Rebecca That this is such a character flaw, though, because I firmly believe that we're not supposed to be so deeply engaged in political hysteria. People are supposed to be living their average, mundane lives, and they're supposed to be happy with them. People don't need to have all of these insane convictions. You're supposed to have 100 people that you know, and you care about. That's it. You're not supposed to give a shit about Gaza and all this other stuff. I mean, the idea that, that so many people in this country have, have these totally dysfunctional beliefs that they're willing to die for. I mean, that really is a sign of the times. Can't people just be average for heaven's sakes? Well, it's, it's that heat map, right? 0:33:04 Dave There are the people, you know, people with a more traditional kind of thinking concentrate more on the people who are closest to them and then the people who've completely lost the plot and accepted progressivism and regime, regime politics and religion. Yeah, yeah, quite proud of that. It's, you know, the average person is not supposed to think about politics. The average person shouldn't think about politics. You know, but Francis Parker Yawkey wrote in 1948 that we, you know, we live in the age of absolute politics where politics has become insinuated into every nook and cranny of our life. Not a direct quote. Most people should be, you know, I mean, I live, I should be working on cars in my freaking garage. You know, I should be like rebuilding old cars and, you know, building rifles and things that I like to do. I just feel compelled to talk about these things. But, you know, also there are people on the other side of me, completely opposite of me who feel like they need to be out there and fighting for people who hate them. I mean, the irony of this whole thing is you have two people dead in Minneapolis, one who had her hand blown off yesterday or this morning. I can't remember. Yeah, I just saw that. You know, I think, I guess she tried to pick up a flashbang and well, flashbang. Now you're, good luck wiping your ass for the rest of your life. These people, the people that they're out there defending hate them and only see them as tax cattle. Keep paying taxes. You dumb white, you dumb white mother fuckers so that we Backlash — Episode 111 don't have to work and we can, you know, we can go about, you know, leering how to lease you more. It's remarkable. I mean, these, my buddy Stormy said, had a tweet a couple weeks ago where he said that if George Washington was walking in America and saw a Somali, he would have cleaved them in the head with an axe and ran to the nearest church and told the pastor that he saw a demon. There's no reason these people should be here. 0:35:46 Rebecca Yeah, definitely. 0:35:47 Dave And you have people whose families may have been here for two, three, 400 years who are out there defending them who are out there like willing to lay down their lives for them, willing to take their, I mean, you, I know you've seen these women who are like, put their kids in strollers to go out there and they're using their kids as shields. You want to talk about the frigging, the heat where that lands on the heat map. That woman should have her children taken away for sure. They'd be safer in a fucking circus. They'd be safer with carnies. I mean, I, people just do not, that's why the whole, you know, oh, well, you know, you just have to get behind Trump. Trump wants to do the right thing. Even if I believed that Trump wants to save the country and do the right thing, he can't. He can't. 0:36:48 Rebecca He doesn't have the power. And that's what is emerging as, as the truth now to, to even normies, that the power is so massively decentralized, but this poses a problem for us that are trying to oppose power because where is power? What, what do you think the head of the snake is? I mean, I don't think that there really is one. I think that there's like a major corporate aspect to this. I think that there's a Jewish power. That's, that's what we talk about predominantly. But it's not the president. 0:37:18 Dave Yeah. No, I mean, there is no head of the snake. You know, I, I can't remember who I, who I was talking with when I said this recently, but you know, thinking about rebel like armed revolution is not, well, it's retarded for a bunch of reasons. But the biggest reason is, is like, where would you even start? There's no head of the snake. That's why we were better. That's why humanity and Europe was better off under kings because you knew whose head to cut off when things got bad. That doesn't, that doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, absolutely. Everything is, you know, people talk about how this is like, oh, this is the most, you know, the most organized, the biggest power, the most powerful government in the world, centralized power. It's not, it's not centralized at all. It's disparate. It's all over the place. You know, you could shut down the state department and the government could keep going. Really? I mean, but yeah, and I would say, well, what you do is you got to get rid of the treasury and you got to get rid of the federal reserve. That would do it. Well, I mean, they'll just have something up, something else to replace it because people will demand it because that would hurt. That would cause pain and people would demand we need something. We need a way to, it's a transact. And people don't realize that what you were talking about, Rebecca, is that it's like Backlash — Episode 111 100 people to 150 people. And that's who you should know. And that's who you should be tied, you know, tied to if you're at all. Because once you get past 150 people, it gets harder and harder to organize. And that's why the Bolsheviks were able to take over, despite being, you know, 12,000, you know, is because they had a small core group of Vanguard that was able to organize. Everybody's like, oh, we just have to wake up the normies. Well, I mean, you know, even Tom Metzger said back in the 80s, if you wake up the normies, what the fuck do you do with them? You can't organize 100 million people. Most people can't, most people, we found out real quick when, when high school started going to five and 6,000 people in the 1960s, that you couldn't organize that, that they, that it was out of control, that you were going to have riots, you were going to have rapes, you were going to have overdoses. You can't organize that, especially in a society that's multiracial. Oh, of course. Yeah. But that's the solution, right? 0:39:55 Rebecca There's too many interest groups fighting. The emergence of a racial consciousness will force people to divest in the political system, which is happening organically, as we all see that the power structure is, is massively diversified. So maybe that should be the entirety of our focus. 0:40:18 Dave Yeah. And our focus should be our history too. And I'm not even talking about the country's history. I'm talking about your family history. I mean, that's another thing that, that they had to destroy. I mean, anybody who's studied the authoritarian personality knows that they just said, well, I mean, if you have tight knit families, especially white tight knit families, they're going to become fascists. That's how you get fascism. That's how people do a fascism is by having family and go in a church and not, and, you know, hating child molesters. They literally had a fucking sentence in there about, oh, if you ever want to, if your opinion is, is that child, people who heard a child should be punished above and beyond the law, you could be a fascist. I'm like, why don't you, you know, why don't you just call that the Leo Frank rule? Considering who wrote, considering who wrote the authoritarian personality. Right. I mean, we're, it's foundational. That's why you basically have to start over. And that's why when people are like, oh, why are you talking about philosophy? Why are you talking about history? Why aren't you, it's like, because if you don't know your history and you don't know what you believe, what are you building? You're just building something that is going, if you don't have a solid foundation, it can be subverted like, you know, like the greatest subverters of all time, they've been able to subvert. Yeah, absolutely. Not only the United States, but all of Europe as well. 0:41:53 Rebecca Right. I also heard you talking about how this is really a white pill. I mean, we get this all the time. Like you're, you're blackpilling. You, you, you can't, you can't exist in this space if you're just going to issue black pills all the time. But I mean, isn't it a white pill that we're even discussing it? We haven't phoned it in and like we're getting wasted all the time or whatever hedonism that we would want to engage in if we didn't care about the movement and about the people. So what, why, why, why do you think that this is, this is a white pill? The emergence of something new? Backlash — Episode 111 0:42:25 Dave If I was blackpilled, I would leave the country. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I mean, I can leave the country. I mean, I can, I know people who, I used to run ads for a guy who helps people leave the country, leave the country and set up elsewhere. I could just contact him and he could set me up somewhere else. Yep. But you know, it's like, I mean, I'm, is there a chance that I'm, you know, that, that violence could take me someday? Sure. But I mean, I'm not going to go anywhere because I don't, after October, October 7th was the thing that made me insanely whitepilled. The response to it, watching people wake up, watching people contact me and go, I stopped listening to your podcast because you were talking about the Jews all the time and I just thought it was like really rude. And it's like, well, now I'm listening again. And it's, and it's, here's one thing I know. We, we talk about a Vanguard and Vanguard is very important to talk about. But also if you know anything about the history when you've been subverted by these people, you know that it's not only a Vanguard that wakes up to it and decides, okay, we got to do something about it. The general populace amongst itself decides, yeah, we, there's something really wrong here. And they stop doing business with them. They'll stop doing, you know, I mean, I don't want it to come to that. You know, I want, you know, I want every Jew to become a Catholic, but that's not, I don't think that's in the cards. But the, the fact that not only by, by the masses waking up, that also wakes up other people, that wakes up people who have the power, have the money and can exercise the kind of influence to fight back against this, to fight back against them. I mean, I, I think it's very clear that someone like, you know, you know, Colonel Douglas McGregor, you know, very well respected throughout, throughout the country by him talking about the things he talks about, that's really important. And I think that Tucker Carlson, even if he's not willing to throw Romans and, and, and talk about 1488, anybody who suggests that that's what he should be doing, you really should go to Canada and seek healthcare there. Because you don't really understand how any of this works and you're not in the game at all. Now Tucker Carlson talking about, you know, Israel and also, you know, how much he concentrates publicly recently and in private, I know, going to the White House and telling the president that the anti-white hatred in this country has to be addressed. That they are, these people are going to kill us. There are, there are people out there who have influence who, if they start to act, and they start to apply pressure, we can see things move in a different direction. But it's going to take time. I mean, the first revolution in Russia was 1905. They tried to, they tried to institute the revolution to take over Russia in 1905. It took them another 12 years before they could do it. Now, it may have, it probably would have taken much longer if it wasn't, but World War I had worn the country down so much that it was, it, it was opportune at the time. Another thing is people just have to be patient. Wars like this are not one overnight. This is just intergenerational. And you know, there's one of the things that, one of the things I'm telling people like in the old glory club is your sons. Right now, you need to be training them so that on the day they turn 18, they join the old glory club and they know what it's all about. Because that's, that's what the fight is. So that's what the fight is. People have become so Jewish where they want everything right now, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, that they don't realize that this fight is probably not going to be one in their lifetime. And they, and once, you know, once you get to be as old as I am, you're like, okay, well, I mean, I'm Backlash — Episode 111 probably not going to live to see the day, but at least I can try to leave something behind that will help, you know, some kind of legacy that will, will help people in the future in this fight. But I mean, for people to think, oh, we need, this needs to be solved now, we're all going to be killed. Well, I mean, if you think that maybe a bunch of us will be. But that's just, that's just a march. That's just a march of history. I think that people get discouraged. If you're talking about it, then you have to accept the fact that you're a partisan and that that 0:47:43 Rebecca might happen to you. Yeah, people get discouraged because we're all so involved in the media cycle, which turns over so quickly. I mean, nobody's talking about Charlie Kirk anymore. When was that September? That was one of the biggest stories that's happened in our, in our life. That was the death of MAGA. That was the death of MAGA. Absolutely. Absolutely. But if people are flaming out, they can just pass the torch. It's okay to flame out. One of the things that I keep 0:48:07 Dave thinking about and reading about is the, the reconquista in Spain, that took 750 years. You know, that's one of the reasons why I'm so, you know, big on Catholicism, because it's transcendental. It's eternal. It's eternal. It doesn't change from age to age or from, you know, generation to generation. And it gives you, it changes a little bit when, when you get infiltrated. Well, you know, when, when you get infiltrated, but before that anyway, before 1965, before Vatican II, it didn't change. And it gave people this thing to fight for that they were willing to lay down their lives for. And it eventually brought Spain victory. And it was that same sentiment that was reawakened in the Spanish Civil War with the, the Racquet army and the Carlists and all of this. Picture, the picture over my right shoulder is the surrender to Isabella and Ferdinand of the Caliphate. Based. Yeah. It's, but yeah, it's going to be intergenerational. And that's, you know, we have to build something now. It's, it's incrementalism, you know, people, people, they want to go vote. They want to vote for Donald Trump or a strong man that's going to fix everything. And they don't worry about what they themselves have to do to build, to educate, to create a culture that will not let this type of thing happen again. To reject vice. Yeah. And hedonism and soft. Yeah. Well, what did, what did Cornelio Coderano say? That Jews dwell in the swamp of our sins. Oh, wow. So, you know, maybe start by draining that swamp. Pete, we do have a 0:49:58 Rebecca few audience questions. Would you, we do? Sure. I think we do. I saw some come through. You got some ding dongs. Pete is right. This is from FM 5, 20, 80. Pete is right about what it'll take to write the ship. He asked her back. I ran, I ran into you at the Leonardo D'Augno show. Oh, and hunting to beach last year and I didn't realize it. Sorry. Should have said hi. Pete is right. This is why we have Pete on because he has a very concise way. A lot of people don't have this holistic view of, of modern events because they don't have historical context and you do. And that's why I think your voice is so, is so important. We didn't have anything come through on 0:50:38 Dave Backlash — Episode 111 entropy. No, but we do have some, there was one from Danny Montana, who sent us a super chat on the 14th and I missed it and I apologize. He emailed me about this. This was originally to me, you and Cameron, but we'll sub, we'll sub Pete in on this. Hi, Rebecca, Dave and Pete. I want your opinion. I live in Dallas, Fort Worth, Texas, where immigration is surged and changed the area. A white majority community sounds appealing despite trade-offs. Is Texas a lost cause or would moving to a like-minded area better protect my family? This is a perfect question for Pete. Yes. It's a really difficult question because when you move, especially, I mean, if you're not from that place, you know, if you're not from Dallas originally and you really have no roots there, then, you know, you could think about moving someplace else, but I mean, if you're, if you're a sixth generation or seventh generation somewhere, telling somebody to move that, that, that's really hard, Ben. The worst thing, one of the worst things that's happened in this country is people have just become so deracinated. You know, we've been taught that, you know, you want to live in a certain area and people, you know, if you, if you live where your, where your ancestors are from, maybe your ancestors are for some place that is considered to be redneck or something like that, you know, and then, you know, the property's been paid for, you know, generations ago. So now you have a chance to sell it for and make insane amount of money and move somewhere else. And that is just, that's not something that our ancestors did. They stayed in one place and they built and, you know, it was just known that you were going to be there. The one thing I like about my town, the town I live in and I'm going to die in is that the people here who, when they get a little bit of money, they buy more land here. So they're not going anywhere. So I would say if you're from originally from Dallas, Fort Worth area, and that's where your ancestors, you know, that's where your ancestors are buried. It's hard for me to tell you to, to go someplace else. But if, you know, you're just, you know, if you're one of those people who's become deracinated much like myself from where, from where I grew up, where, you know, it's impossible to live anymore, then, you know, think about it. I mean, I, I don't want to recommend Alabama because I don't want more people coming. I want our guys coming here, of course, if our guys wanted to move here, that would be wonderful. But there are a lot of states that will be on their radar last. And hopefully, you know, what you can do is, is if you can build something somewhere that, you know, they're not going to concentrate on until later, then we can work on defeating them before they get here. That's, that's about it. Mississippi is a great state where you can land, if, you know, if you work remote, I mean, especially with Starlink now and everything, you can pretty much live anywhere. And there are some places that these people, you know, they're not going to be able to touch until like you're full on star skynet and groans are just, you know, patrolling every inch of the sky. But, yeah, it's hard for me to tell someone to move from where their ancestors are from. But if, if not, and, you know, figure out someplace where, you know, people just aren't, people aren't putting, I mean, rural Arkansas and places like that are really, you know, really still untouched. But, you know, there's going to come a day where they'll, they'll start looking. They will. They'll, they'll train their eyes upon it. But until then, all you can do is live and thrive. And I know a lot of people, I have to assume that a lot of the people online who are, you know, just the real black pillars, and they've just completely given up. And I just, I can't see it. I grew up in that kind of environment where you're just, there's going to be a nuclear war anytime, you're Backlash — Episode 111 going to be dead, why try and everything, you know? So, yeah. You know, this is kind of something I wanted to talk about. At some point, I'll probably do a Dave after dark about it, maybe this week, maybe not, maybe I'll just get it all out here. I don't know. But like, you know, there's been a lot of talk about the movement, the movement, what about the movement, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, there's no such thing. Number one, yeah, there's no such thing. But number two, if you do want to talk about the movement, there's a name for it. It's called white flight. That was the movement. It was the breakup of our ethnic neighborhoods in Philadelphia, New York, Boston. It was the movement of people out of their ethnic neighborhoods and then into the suburbs. And then from one suburb to another as capitalism, turns people into these nameless, faceless economic units of input and output that are completely interchangeable with one another. And it's like, you know, my, moving to Idaho was like my 28th move. I'm not kidding. And like when I was a kid, we moved every three or four years, you know, Columbus, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Indiana, New York, Pennsylvania, just every three or four years, the big corporations are like, all right, you're out. You're not taking the payola money, old man. You're moved out. And so for someone like that, for someone that is deracinated, for somebody that engaged in the movement, the white flight movement, then I think, yeah, taking a hard look at, okay, where are we going to go? And of course, I mean, I live in North Idaho, I'm going to be, I want to do like real estate videos with you this summer. Like, because we're not realtors, and we're not like actually we could make like racist real estate commercials. At a certain point, though, you get to a place where you're like, I can't move anymore. True. And you know, Alex, our friend from ODGG supply, PNW Gorilla. He's doing that. You know, Southern Seattle area. He's like, Nope, I'm not. That's it. I'm making a stand here. And God bless him. And God bless anybody that does that. But you know, there are things being built here in North Idaho. And throughout the Pacific Northwest, small little hamlets, little towns, places like Kettle Falls up in up in northern, north, north, north of Washington. Don't talk about it publicly. Yeah, well, smart. I mean, I just don't talk about it publicly. It's, you know, I mean, I've met Peter Steary from Return to the Land and everything. And I love what they're doing. I love every minute of every every bit of it. But, you know, you want to do that without without anybody finding out about it. Yeah. You just just just be, you know, it was like that. I know like 10 years ago, this black town that popped up in like Georgia. And people still talk about, Oh, how come they can have a, they don't have it sounded anymore. It didn't work out. But, but yeah, I mean, people talk, I guess that's one of the problems is that when you talk about the things that we do or that I do, I'll use myself just as an example. People are, Oh, well, what are you doing? I'm not going to tell you. I'm just not going to tell you publicly. I'm not going to tell you on the phone. I'm not going to tell you over the internet. I need to know who you are. I need to build social capital with you. Then I need, then, you know, we can talk. We can talk about the things that we're doing, but otherwise it's just way too easy to be infiltrated. And, you know, for people to come in and do everything they can to derail whatever kind of momentum you have. And, you know, it's, it's hard enough to keep momentum when you're doing things and you, you know, there are so many obstacles in your way that you don't need to talk about it on Twitter. You don't need to talk about it on social media. You know, you don't even really need to talk about it in a signal chat. You talk about it when you Backlash — Episode 111 and your friends get together and, you know, you 0:59:45 Rebecca IRL, yep. 0:59:46 Dave Put the, put the phone, you know, leave the phones and you go and take a walk. That's, that's what's important. Not that you're talking about anything illegal. You're just talking about things that you don't want people to know what you're doing because we live in a world that not only do your enemies, your outright enemies want to destroy you, but ask anybody who's been in this quote unquote movement for a long time. Dark Enlightenment is probably, you know, we call them the historian of the movement. Anytime anyone's been doxxed, anyone's, it's always come from the inside. 1:00:25 Rebecca Oh yeah. 1:00:26 Dave It's always from the inside. So you really have to, you know, Thomas 777 talks about this all the time. The reason why he travels so much is so that he can get to know people in real life and build social capital. And, you know, that's why it was great meeting you in Oregon, Dave, you know, we got to talk face to face and I got to talk to a bunch of people face to face. I hadn't met there before. And, you know, when you talk to somebody and you can look into their eyes and you can study their body language and, you know, you can get to know them and you can, you know, I think most good people can tell whether somebody's trustworthy right off, 1:01:06 Cameron you know, within the first couple of minutes. 1:01:09 Dave Totally. And yeah. So I think that's important. You know, the people who want you to scream on a stream or you know, post on Twitter, Oh, well, what are you doing? You're, you're, you're out here. You're out here criticizing Trump for all the great things he's doing. What are you doing? I'm doing nothing. Just ignore me. Yeah. 1:01:31 Rebecca Up to nothing. 1:01:34 Dave We got a $10 Super Chat from Antwash Enjoyer. A nice surprise on a frozen Monday. Pete, it's Bean Mack. Oh, hey, what's up, Bean? I really, really enjoyed the last old glory club stream with Tim Kelly. Dave, you would make a great guest. Is that the Tim Kelly from our interesting times? Yep. Yeah. We had him on. We do a pony express radio on every Thursday night. And we were doing current events and we wanted to break it up a little bit and change it up in the new year. So I just looked at the date. It was January 22nd. And I looked at historically what had happened on January 22nd. And January 22nd was when the court decided on Roe v. Wade originally in, in the 1970s. I think it was 1972 or 73. And we thought Backlash — Episode 111 we'd do a, an episode, a stream on, you know, Roe v. Wade and the Dobs decision and just what abortion has done to this, this country. And, you know, it was funny, we were in the chat and like at the same, like people were like, who should we have on to talk about that? We need to guess. And I'm like, Tim Kelly is the only guy I want on to talk about that. So yeah, I just asked him, Tim, I've been on his show a bunch of times. He's been on my show a bunch of times. And he's one of the, he's one of the best people out there. Yeah. I mean, he's a friend of mine said that I think gave Tim Kelly one of the best compliments. She said, all those years I was listening to Alex Jones and watching Alex Jones, if I had just been listening to Tim Kelly. I think all of us regret our time with Alex Jones. Tim's a real OG. And yeah, we, but speaking of dark enlightenment, I've been, I've been talking, I was just on a podcast, we've recorded the podcast. Jesus, like two weeks ago now, it's like they do one podcast a month and I'm like, so like instant gratification. Like let's, where is it? Are you posting it? Fundamental principles. Yes. Yeah. And so that's, yeah. And you know, it's, it was such a pleasure talking with him. And is it Patrick? I think his co-host. Yeah, Patrick. Man, we like went for like an hour and a half and it's just like, holy, like we could be here for five or six hours, you know, like, so we're gonna have to, I was talking about bringing him on. He's an expert on the housing crisis. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. His whole thing is infrastructure. Yep. He's been studying infrastructure for years. Oh, we should talk about that. Like he's, like, if you want to talk about like the infrastructure of like that mid-century German regime, I mean, he's got that, he knows the whole history, like the Autobahn and everything, you know, all the names and how it was built and what the, he knows his infrastructure history as far as, you know, modern infrastructure, the modern state. Yeah. No. So that, I think that would make a really, really good discussion. Let me, let me just check entropy. Nothing, nothing. Nobody on entropy today. They don't like my black pillow. It's like, I'm not good for super chats. That's okay. Oh, it's fine. We appreciate you coming on. I don't care about the super chats. I don't, I don't care. It's fine. My feelings aren't hurt at all. 1:04:48 Rebecca Thank you so much for coming on Pete. Can you tell people where to find you? 1:04:51 Dave Sure. Peaking Yenna show. I'm still on all the podcatchers. You can find me on, on Twitter, X, whatever people are calling it. And, you know, pizzaabstack.com. And, you know, check, I'm, I'm going to probably do every other week now on Pony Express radio on Thursday nights on the old glory clubs, YouTube channel at eight Eastern. And we stream there every week. And we also have a Monday night stream called American spirits where basically trying to answer the question of what is an American historically. And then our chapters have their own stream on Wednesday night called chapter house where we highlight one chapter a week and they come on and they talk about the things that are happening in their states and their areas. So 1:05:44 Rebecca you'll do a great work with the old channel gets a lot of, a lot of work going on there. 1:05:50 Dave Backlash — Episode 111 Yeah, definitely follow the old glory club. And have you finished? I know that you were doing, it was a 200 years together. You were reading souls in Easton's 200 years together, which still soon probably got about 20 to 25 episodes left. It's like you're going to be doing this for the rest of your life. I've been doing it for five years. So that's really great. Well, thank you so much. 1:06:11 Rebecca So check out our guest P. Can you guys, we will talk to you soon. Thanks again. 1:06:15 Dave Thank you. Take care. 1:06:16 Rebecca Bye bye. 1:06:16 Dave Bye bye. 1:06:19 Rebecca Academic agent just posted our interview and he has me bleeped for an entire 10 minutes of just bleeping. So please check it out because these, you know, now that I'm really J-woke, I developed this total inability to read a room. 1:06:39 Dave Really? 1:06:40 Rebecca Well, I just, I just went in there guns blazing. Thought I was being normal. 1:06:44 Dave And well, that's just that you are being normal. 1:06:47 Rebecca I just went too hard and they're not ready for it, man. 1:06:50 Dave That's, see, that's so weird for me because it, maybe I guess I live in a bubble and antisemitism. 1:06:56 Rebecca Well, I called that, what is her name? Renee Good. I called her a race trader and people just lost their shit in the comment section. 1:07:03 Dave Really? George Floyd. 1:07:04 Rebecca Yeah. So it's not that. So if you guys want to go support me in those comment section, where is that comment section? That comment section academic agent, his most recent video. Backlash — Episode 111 1:07:14 Dave Academic, no, academic agent. 1:07:16 Rebecca No, academic agent. 1:07:17 Dave Academic agent. Let's see. Where is it? 1:07:20 Rebecca It's that one. What's the current state of Trump? 1:07:23 Dave Is it? Oh, this is it. 1:07:24 Rebecca Trump mega ice. 1:07:26 Dave Right here. 1:07:27 Rebecca Right there. 1:07:28 Dave Oh yeah. Look at that. 1:07:30 Rebecca Just absolutely blasted in the comment section. 1:07:33 Dave Hold on. Let me, let's look. Let's take a quick. 1:07:36 Rebecca Go most recent. 1:07:37 Dave Somebody replaced the fire alarm battery. Six million beats. Is there an unbleaped version? No point of having the discussion with this amount of it's all about the bleeps for a while. She's speaking in Morse code. 1:07:52 Rebecca A nice, sensible, leftist conversation somebody says. 1:07:57 Dave Bro, I can't wait to watch this. That's so funny. 1:08:00 Rebecca I don't, I just can't read a room anymore. I don't know what is wrong with me. I just like see someone in the street. I'm like, have you heard about the juice? Like I Backlash — Episode 111 can't, I can't stop myself. Anyway, so go check it out. I thought it was a good interview, but now I'm getting all insecure about it. 1:08:14 Dave You know, when we were talking with Pete, he was talking about like, you know, maybe we should like kill the federal reserve. Have you seen, have you seen? I've seen. 1:08:24 Rebecca What is a silver? 1:08:25 Dave Bro, look at this. 1:08:26 Rebecca What is it? 1:08:27 Dave That's that silver. 1:08:28 Rebecca Oh, is it silver? 1:08:29 Dave That's the charge. 1:08:29 Rebecca I was like, is that silver or is it like ass coin? 1:08:32 Dave No, that is not, this is not fart coin. That's not ass coin. 1:08:36 Rebecca Quase coin. 1:08:37 Dave That's silver, which is absolutely blowing, blowing up. It's currently at $107.62 an ounce gold finally broke. The $5,000 an ounce barrier. We've got to, we've got to get you guys over to atlasbullion.com slash backlash. This debasement of the American currency, the debasement of the dollar, it's, it's not over. It's not ending anytime soon. If you haven't noticed, Donald Trump is not saving his money in dollars. Okay. He's, he's got all of his money offshore in Qatar, in Bitcoin, stable coins, all of this other stuff, gold, silver. They're debasing the dollar because in order to bring manufacturing back, we need to make it cheaper here. So if you think that the golden silver run is over, you've missed the boat. It's not ever going to be over. 1:09:34 Rebecca It's not ever going to be over. Yeah. 1:09:36 Dave Backlash — Episode 111 They've got an infinite money printer. So please go to atlasbullion.com slash backlash, start saving for the future. Gold and silver best prices on the internet. They actually have inventory, although it is, it is starting to get tight. They have a little notice that golden silver inventory is getting tight, but they still have it. You can still call and arrange some purchases atlasbullion.com slash backlash. We've also got to give a big shout out to our sponsor and to Lowe Hill Publishing. 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It was- it's one of those things where it was like, I'm thinking, oh, this is the rise of the right by the SS. This is going to be like the history of like, you know, AH coming to power. It wasn't? No, it was like the equivalent of Tucker Carlson's interview with Putin, where he's like, hey, so what happened in Ukraine? Velta Kater, it all started in 800 BC in the Little Ice Age, and that's what this book is Backlash — Episode 111 like. It literally starts in like the Ice Age and then traces the German nation from zero, negative zero, up through the like- I'm sitting there like at the 1000s, right? It's like- and the year is like 1075, and I'm like, I'm like a quarter of the way through this book. 1:12:32 Rebecca From when they were chasing pigs through the forest? 1:12:34 Dave Yes, exactly. 1:12:35 Rebecca The old E. Michael Jones throwback. 1:12:37 Dave Exactly. 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So if you if you were holding off because the shipping is like eight bucks or whatever it is, you can also buy it with Bitcoin. Idaho TALO dot com. 1:16:48 Rebecca Oh, Reinhardt's that one in. They aren't spending money on the right at all. I can't. I'm so blind. 1:16:55 Dave Yeah, he said they aren't spending money on the right at all. They are funding the left and funding the government. Curiously, the right never seems to get any of this government or NGO funding. Well, I mean, when I say the right, I mean, like ostensibly, they're funding the right because they're funding ICE and ICE represents the right. ICE are Nazis, you know, blah, blah, blah. The actual right is indeed not getting funding from the government, although I wish we were. But no, the actual right is not getting funding from the government. What is getting funding is Palantir, Andoril, all of Peter Teal's companies, they're getting money. ICE is Backlash — Episode 111 getting money. And the leftists are all getting money through their Somali daycare scams and all of these goofy health care, Medicaid bullshit companies that they're spinning up in these corporate warehouses. And of course, the left, they know what to do with money when they get it. 1:17:56 Rebecca Oh, yeah. 1:17:57 Dave They know how to launder that. They know how to put that in the pipeline, you know, like that crazy bitch. Remember that got arrested and dragged out of that town hall a year ago? 1:18:06 Rebecca Yes. 1:18:06 Dave She raised $300,000. 1:18:07 Rebecca $300,000, that is right. 1:18:09 Dave And where do you think that money is? That money is definitely it's being deployed in Idaho Indivisible and all of this other bullshit. These there was a protest on Sunday, an anti ICE protest in Coeur d'Alene. I don't know if you saw that. Yeah. Anyway, it's all fake and gay. Stay away from everything's fake and gay. 1:18:33 Rebecca That's the takeaway from the backlash. We're going to have a great show on Wednesday. 1:18:36 Dave Yes, we are. What are we talking about? 1:18:39 Rebecca Ice. We're just going to talk about ice the whole time. 1:18:42 Dave Send us an email at info at the backlash. We're probably missing something. I mean, Japan's government collapsed on Friday. They disbanded the public. 1:18:49 Rebecca We're going to talk about that. 1:18:51 Dave Gold, silver, ice, Mexico. There's that new national security document, which is basically toilet paper. 1:19:00 Rebecca Backlash — Episode 111 The omnibus bill. 1:19:02 Dave Oh, yeah. Are we going to get a government shutdown by the end of the week? 1:19:05 Rebecca Who gives a shit? Watch the backlash on Wednesday. 1:19:09 Dave We'll find out what we're talking about 30 minutes before we go live. 1:19:12 Rebecca No, that is not true. I'm working on the outlines for like days ahead. No way. I reject that characterization. It was good to see you. We'll see you on Wednesday.

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