Interview · August 24, 2026

Episode 164 — Return to the Land? What Native History Can Teach White America W/ @LaNativePatriot

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Episode 164 of The Backlash features @LaNativePatriot, a Native American conservative influencer and self-described Christian American Supremacist with more than 230,000 followers. As co-creator of The Patriots Pray and a board member of Save Native Souls, he advocates preserving Native American names, imagery, history, and identity as essential parts of the broader American inheritance.

In this episode, we examine the complicated history between Native and white Americans—and ask a deliberately provocative question: Should white Americans respond to displacement and demographic change by adopting a reservation mentality of their own?

We also discuss the return-to-the-land movement, tribal identity, spirituality and Christianity, the H-1B-driven influx of workers from India, the future of the American Right, and what Native history can teach Americans about preserving their people, culture, and homeland.

Finally, we explore the relationship between men and women, the replacement of justice with “social justice,” and @LaNativePatriot’s argument that civilization begins to collapse when women abandon their complementary role within the family.

This is a wide-ranging conversation about faith, family, ancestry, land, loyalty, and the struggle to preserve a distinctly American civilization.

Follow on X: https://x.com/LaNativePatriot

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[0:04:15] Co-creator. [0:04:16] co-creator of the Patriot Prayer Network, your board member of Save Native Souls, which is a [0:04:21] group that wants to preserve Native American names, imagery, history. And he is a self-described [0:04:29] Christian American supremacist with over a quarter of a million followers on X. [0:04:34] Maurice, thank you for joining us. Hopefully I didn't just dox it. [0:04:37] Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it. No, you nailed it. It is Save Our Native Souls. [0:04:42] its sons. [0:04:45] And yeah, it's a 501c4 [0:04:47] that was started fairly recently. [0:04:49] And preserving [0:04:50] Native American imagery history [0:04:52] has been kind of an important mission [0:04:54] for me because [0:04:56] of the way that the communists [0:04:59] and the left have basically tried [0:05:00] to separate [0:05:02] Native Americans from Americans themselves. [0:05:04] I know that we were a separate people, [0:05:06] but I'll tell you what, there's never been a war [0:05:08] that America has fought since its inception [0:05:11] that hasn't been [0:05:12] fought side by side with Native Americans. [0:05:15] So the white man and the Native Americans [0:05:17] have always worked together. [0:05:18] Now, you have to think, [0:05:19] sometimes it was against other Natives. [0:05:21] But, you know, that's kind of to the side point by now. [0:05:25] You know, we made it to this point. [0:05:26] We're all here together. [0:05:27] And Native American history is American history. [0:05:31] And, you know, we're a culture that basically, [0:05:34] from America's inception, [0:05:37] have worked together to some extent [0:05:39] to help create this great nation. [0:05:41] So I'm fully assimilated in that way, Christian American supremacist. [0:05:48] And as you would like, you know, I am pro-white. [0:05:52] I'm half white and half native. [0:05:54] So a lot of people get really confused when I advocate for white people themselves. [0:05:59] I'm like, well, I think of my mom. [0:06:00] I think of my grandma. [0:06:01] I think of my sister and, you know, the many white people in my family that don't deserve this kind of treatment. [0:06:09] And I advocate for their future as well. [0:06:13] So that's all. [0:06:14] You know, we do need allies, right? [0:06:17] What is that? [0:06:17] The left has, you know, allies and all of this. [0:06:20] It's good for us to have some allies, too. [0:06:23] Now, I totally blanked on this. [0:06:27] I should have been back in the intro. [0:06:29] I hate to skip around. [0:06:30] But for those that are joining live, just FYI, immediately after this stream, I will be headed over to the Kootenai County Fair. [0:06:37] over to the Kootenai County Republican Party tent. [0:06:42] I'll be hanging out there this evening, [0:06:45] and it'll be a very interesting time. [0:06:48] So come on down to the Republican Party tent. [0:06:50] We're going to have some interesting conversations. [0:06:52] I think it'll be good. [0:06:53] But anyway, sorry, I forgot about that at the top of the show. [0:06:57] But yeah, you know, the Native American history thing, [0:07:00] it's something that I've been studying about and thinking about [0:07:05] and reading more about ever since I moved here to the Pacific Northwest. [0:07:09] You know, we've got the whole area, right? [0:07:12] The Kootenai County, that's named after the Kootenai Indians. [0:07:16] There was the Coeur d'Alene tribe, [0:07:19] but I don't think that was the name that they gave themselves. [0:07:22] I think it was like Skitumich or something like that. [0:07:25] But, you know, the left has this thing that they do, [0:07:30] and they kind of pit Native Americans against white people, right? [0:07:34] You know, we're colonizers, this, that, the other thing. [0:07:37] But like, when you dig into the history, at least of this area of Kootenai County, it wasn't like that at all. [0:07:45] There wasn't like a war up here. [0:07:47] We weren't at odds with one another. [0:07:49] As a matter of fact, it's a really interesting part of history. [0:07:53] There's this prophecy, I guess, that came from a guy named Chief Circling Raven, who had a vision that men in black robes would come to teach about the Great Spirit. [0:08:09] And for 150 years, I guess this was in 1660, and for like 150 years, the Coeur d'Alene tribe knew of this prophecy. [0:08:18] They knew about this vision, and they passed it on from generation to generation. [0:08:22] And then all of a sudden, the black robes, the Jesuits, right, they started popping up here in the Pacific Northwest. [0:08:30] And the Coeur d'Alene tribe sent a messenger out to, I think, St. Louis. [0:08:35] And this guy named Father Pierre de Smet came out. [0:08:40] And basically the first day that he came out, the entire tribe got baptized in one day. [0:08:46] They converted to Catholicism. [0:08:48] They built the very first building in the state of Idaho, which is the Cataldo Mission. [0:08:54] And so, you know, it's like, I don't think that the left's history on this thing is correct. [0:09:00] Give me your impression about this story that is being told to people about, you know, the conquest of the natives and all that. [0:09:10] Is that really, how accurate is that? [0:09:14] There's some truth to it. [0:09:15] there were a lot of tribes, especially in the middle of the country, [0:09:19] that were at odds with the settlers at the time. [0:09:25] Many of them fought to the death. [0:09:26] I mean, you look up the dog soldiers, fierce warriors, terrifying people. [0:09:33] But they didn't want to assimilate. [0:09:37] And it was either a fight or assimilate. [0:09:40] And a lot of tribes chose reservations. [0:09:43] up here in the Pacific Northwest. [0:09:45] I live in Washington state. [0:09:46] So even a little bit further west than you, [0:09:49] I mean, Washington didn't become a state [0:09:52] until the early 1900s. [0:09:54] And it wasn't like our tribe had this great war [0:09:58] with the settlers that were coming. [0:10:01] It's like, no, they were already here. [0:10:02] I mean, it was so far. [0:10:06] The country was mostly taken over at that point. [0:10:09] And so we didn't have this genocide that the story is always told that Native Americans were just completely genocided and treated poorly. [0:10:21] It's like, yeah, there were some treaties that were not good. [0:10:24] And in all reality, if you are going to conquer a people, I think Native Americans got the best that it could have been. [0:10:33] Right. [0:10:34] They were able to set up treaties for reservations where they had the opportunity to preserve their culture. [0:10:43] Although you look over 100 years in the future now and reservations have not really preserved the culture at all. [0:10:52] It's kind of been a detriment in a lot of ways to the Native Americans. [0:10:57] But at least we're still around. [0:11:00] You know, we're a very, very small minority. But yeah, I mean, overall, I think that there was a lot more cooperation than hatred and genocide that, you know, it's always easy to point out like, oh, this one general hated Native Americans. [0:11:18] And then you just kind of assume that that was like the modern mindset of the people at the time that wanted to just take out all the natives. [0:11:26] It's like, no, they were just different people. [0:11:28] And they were both not really comfortable with each other because of the lifestyles that they led. [0:11:34] Native Americans, for thousands of years, you know, it was war, slavery, enslavement. [0:11:42] enslavement and i mean it the way that native americans lived the tribal nature that they [0:11:47] lived in was not going to excel in the way that that we've gotten to this point so of course when [0:11:53] the settlers came over it's my view that uh it was kind of like a kick in the butt and it was like [0:11:59] either you you guys have to not just be rival tribal factions and either congregate together [0:12:08] against the white man or you, you go with the white man and, uh, and create something else. [0:12:14] And that's what we did. And for the most part, and, uh, and I think it worked out for the best. [0:12:19] Interesting. Yeah, no, I, I, I think I would tend to agree. Uh, now what, uh, just out of curiosity, [0:12:25] what is your, cause you're Christian, what, uh, what, what the nomination? [0:12:29] uh you know i that is something i'm still working towards um because i well let's see [0:12:40] and we don't have to put you on the spot i'm actually i'm actually fairly recently is when [0:12:46] i decided to to call myself a christian okay um but i i don't i don't attend church um [0:12:56] and it's mostly because of a lot of the churches around me are very very weak and i've kind of had [0:13:02] to come to this a lot of this on my own um along with my wife and and we've decided that that this [0:13:08] is the pathway that we're going to go uh because it's the closest thing that i've found to the [0:13:12] truth um but i wouldn't i wouldn't feel comfortable saying that i am um with a certain denomination [0:13:18] It's just I have read the Bible and have tried to understand it as much as I could. [0:13:26] And like I said, it is the closest thing that I've found to the truth. [0:13:30] So that's where I'm at in my journey, even though it's been several years. [0:13:35] I was going to say, that's totally cool. [0:13:37] I mean, like, no pressure. [0:13:39] You need to become Catholic. [0:13:40] No pressure at all. [0:13:41] But no, it is interesting, you know, because I never really thought about Native American history before. [0:13:47] It wasn't until I became Catholic, actually, and the area that I was living in at the time, which is like between Pennsylvania and Connecticut, we had a big pilgrimage that we would do every year to a place called Ariesville, New York. [0:14:03] And in Ariesville, that's when the first Jesuit missionaries came over. [0:14:10] And they came over. [0:14:12] They learned the language. [0:14:14] They were able to translate. [0:14:15] and it's super interesting, right? [0:14:18] Because like Squanto was Catholic, actually. [0:14:21] The guy that did the very first Thanksgiving. [0:14:25] And that was the effect of these French Jesuit priests [0:14:29] that came over. [0:14:30] There were eight martyrs. [0:14:32] I'm not gonna do their names [0:14:34] because I'm gonna totally botch it. [0:14:35] They were French. [0:14:36] But I do know a little bit about Father Isaac Jogues [0:14:39] and Rene Goupil was another one down here. [0:14:43] and man these guys came over [0:14:45] and were [0:14:47] they were kidnapped they were [0:14:49] tortured some of them were like [0:14:51] skinned alive and roasted over the fire [0:14:53] they let one go he [0:14:55] went back to France and was like [0:14:57] these people need us send me back [0:14:59] send me back and so he wound up going [0:15:01] back and then he was I think either [0:15:03] crucified or like I said skinned [0:15:05] alive but [0:15:07] the amount of grace [0:15:09] that was purchased by [0:15:11] the Jesuit martyrs [0:15:13] of Osernan or Ariesville, New York, [0:15:16] is truly incredible. [0:15:18] There's a, I'll actually put it in the live chat [0:15:19] for anybody that wants to read up on it. [0:15:22] There is a great article from Catholicism.org, [0:15:26] the eight North American martyrs. [0:15:28] But yeah, man, they came in [0:15:30] and they were like absolutely shit on by the natives. [0:15:34] But thanks to their influence, [0:15:37] actually a very large swatch of Native Americans converted. [0:15:41] And then of course, [0:15:42] that's what led to a lot of the cooperation between the natives and the French, right? [0:15:48] There's like the French and Indian war, right? And so this was the English versus the French. [0:15:54] And it's like, well, wait, why are the Indians with these guys? And it was because they were [0:15:57] Catholic. So it's just really interesting. And then there's another one that you should be aware [0:16:04] of, uh, St. Kateri Takawitha. This one's, this one's great. And I, it's weird. I've got a lot [0:16:12] of like white friends that are named Kateri after her. Uh, but she's known as the Lily of the Mohawks. [0:16:19] Um, and so she, she converted to Catholicism in her youth. Um, she got baptized at the age of 20 [0:16:25] and then, uh, I believe she was martyred, uh, as well. So, uh, she was just recently canonized [0:16:31] actually in 2012. So yeah, there's like a whole, oopsie daisy, a whole article on her, but it's, [0:16:38] it's, it's really interesting. And especially when it comes to this area where I live, you know, [0:16:44] because the leftists are, they've got their mitts on it and it's, it's not because they care about [0:16:50] the natives. It's not because they care about preserving their culture or anything. It's because [0:16:53] they run the gambling ring, you know, they've got legalized gambling. And so these libtards are just [0:17:01] using him as a cash cow and it's like dude this is crazy that's that's for sure i will say uh [0:17:10] that i i haven't really bought into catholicism very much because to me it feels like there's been [0:17:18] uh there's too much man-made tradition built onto it and if if i'm to go from the perspective of [0:17:26] reading the Bible and figuring out what it's trying to convey to me. If I were to ever attempt [0:17:33] to convert to Catholicism, there is a lot of man-made traditions that I would have to [0:17:38] learn and keep up with. And so I haven't gone down that route. But, you know, I do my best to [0:17:46] read the scripture and then try and derive what I can from that. [0:17:51] So no, certainly. I was even going to say, you know, there is just there is such a level of I mean, and you can see it in the old Greek philosophers, too. [0:18:03] You know, you can look at the world around you and learn a lot about God just by looking at the way the stars move, looking at the way the sun comes up every day. [0:18:12] You know, there is a natural order of things. There is a natural world. And we are increasingly getting away from that with AI and these algorithms, the screens, the cell phones. [0:18:25] we're getting further and further away from having to abide by the natural order to the point that, you know, transgenderism, all of this stuff, that the idea that you can that you were born in the wrong body, that God made a mistake and like some doctor is going to like fix it. [0:18:44] It's just out of control, absolutely out of control. [0:18:48] And so from your point of view, where are we civilizationally? [0:18:54] Well, what's your what's your take on America 2026? [0:19:01] We're on the brink of collapse. [0:19:02] And I say that not lightly because coming into the political realm, starting a podcast and starting a podcast network, actually traveling, doing everything that I've done so far. [0:19:20] I was very, very optimistic that I could encourage marriage, having kids, and traditional values. [0:19:31] And I saw Trump as maybe someone who was breaking the mold of the neocons in the way we were going. [0:19:39] But I've kind of turned around on that in a lot of ways because if you do, like if you look at it just strictly statistically, [0:19:47] from when Trump came in in January of 2017, [0:19:51] out of the last 10 years, [0:19:55] our national debt has doubled. [0:19:58] And I see that as robbing our future [0:20:01] or robbing the wealth from our children. [0:20:04] That's the only way that I can describe it [0:20:06] is that in order to save or make life [0:20:10] a little bit more convenient for us, [0:20:11] we are robbing the wealth of our children. [0:20:13] and it, along with getting entangled in foreign wars [0:20:18] and things of that nature. [0:20:21] And I will say that hearing so many stories [0:20:25] and talking to thousands of young men about marriage, [0:20:30] because like I said, my main focus from the onset [0:20:33] was to promote marriage and it was to promote, [0:20:36] you know, having kids, building a legacy and that. [0:20:39] Man, it is a complicated world out there. [0:20:43] And it made me think of, I think his name was Augustus in Rome in the early couple hundreds BC, where their population was on the verge of collapse. [0:20:57] And what he did to help fix that was to basically incentivize birth rates. [0:21:05] You would get a bunch of benefits off tax if you had one kid, you'd get more if you had two, you'd get even more if you had three. [0:21:11] and so it made me realize okay this is not a new problem all right so so what was the outcome of [0:21:18] that and the outcome was that they weren't having roman children right they were it just by having [0:21:25] children doesn't make roman children so in america right now you know you look at the youth and what [0:21:31] they're um what they're attracted to like my most of my audience is my age or older and i'm 35 years [0:21:40] old, or I'm 34 turning 35 soon. [0:21:43] Happy birthday. [0:21:44] Early. [0:21:45] Yeah. [0:21:46] Thank you. [0:21:47] But most of my audience is older, and I have a very, very hard time reaching the youth. [0:21:52] And so if I encourage so many people to just have kids, and if you're not going to have [0:21:59] a stable foundation based in Christianity and being the leader of your spouse and all [0:22:05] of you following God, making a covenant between you, your wife, and God, before you have children, [0:22:12] then we're not going to be making American children. We're going to be making more NPCs [0:22:16] for the machine and more people that are just going to root for the destruction of this country [0:22:22] rather than, I guess, the benefit of it. And so I've kind of shifted as of late, just a little [0:22:29] bit because I'm still somewhat optimistic because it doesn't take many strong people [0:22:36] to change a population. [0:22:38] There has to be enough. [0:22:41] So my original message was the tribe of patriots. [0:22:46] That's my brand. [0:22:47] That's what I, you know, you should find your tribe, create your tribe. [0:22:51] And I honestly am kind of rolling back then believing that that may be the way to go. [0:22:55] it's to find your community find find who you can connect with you know with you and your wife if [0:23:04] you find another couple and then they can find another couple and and you guys can get together [0:23:08] and maybe you can change your own community and then it's like start small and then expand out [0:23:13] but make sure that your foundation at home is right yeah and before you you try and just and [0:23:20] fix everything in the world because man it is it is rough out there you know hearing hearing [0:23:25] single people talk about their dating life. It sounds miserable. Oh yeah. I would not, [0:23:32] I would not want to go back. That's for sure. You know, my, my wife and I, we've been, [0:23:37] how long have we been married? I think six going on seven years. We've got three kids, [0:23:42] one on the way. Um, and of course they remember you, they met you, excuse me at that, uh, that [0:23:47] hetero awesome fest. And so they're of course always very interested. Who are you talking with [0:23:51] today? Who are you talking with? And I'm like, you remember the native American guy from, [0:23:55] down in Boise. They're like, yeah, anyway, but no, you're, you're, you're totally right. [0:24:00] You're totally right about this, finding your own tribe and starting local. And of course the, [0:24:05] the family is the basic building block of society. Without families, we don't have anything. We don't [0:24:12] have a country, we don't have government, we don't have trade even, you know, it's so important [0:24:20] uh, in commerce, uh, even, you know, like, you know, when you think about like, uh, [0:24:26] wages, for example, you know, you, you're working at some factory, uh, you're married to a woman, [0:24:33] you have two, three kids. And then all of a sudden the woman's like, Hey, uh, honey, um, [0:24:38] we need better shoes. Uh, it's getting a little cramped in here. You're, you're going to need to [0:24:43] ask your boss for a raise, you know, and then, uh, and then all the women get together, you know, [0:24:49] all the wives of the factory workers and they all collectively start bitching at their husbands and [0:24:53] the husbands go and they bitch at the factory owner they want to raise. And, and so, yeah, [0:24:59] I mean, the family is, it's the most important unit of society. And when it, when it gets [0:25:04] diseased, when it, when that whole structure starts to fail, uh, yeah, we, we've got problems. [0:25:11] Um, and it's, and you're right. It's, it's not, it's not new. There's, and I forget who I was [0:25:17] talking with about this, but within the past couple of weeks, you know, there's all of these [0:25:22] new, they're supposedly Christian, you know, I'm thinking of like, you know, the United Methodists, [0:25:29] for example, going to dump on them a little bit, but it's like, they always reach back to the Old [0:25:35] Testament, to Leviticus or Deuteronomy for why homosexuality is bad or a sin. And it's like, [0:25:44] well actually we don't need to look to the old testament right because the the argument is that [0:25:50] well that was the old testament and now we've got a new law we've got a new covenant so the old one's [0:25:56] out and the new one is love it's all just love your neighbor and it's like okay well that's not [0:26:03] really that's there kind of but when you look at romans 1 the very first chapter uh romans 1 it [0:26:10] says, you know, blah, blah, blah. They knew who God was, but they decided to turn their back on [0:26:16] him anyway. And for this cause, God delivered them up to shameful affections. For the women [0:26:21] have changed the natural use into that which is against nature. And in like manner, the men, [0:26:28] also leaving the natural use of the woman, have burned in their lusts one towards another, [0:26:34] men with men, working that which is filthy and receiving in themselves recompense, [0:26:39] which is due to their error. And then it goes on and it lists all of what they're filled with. [0:26:45] Iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness, full of envy, murderers, contention, [0:26:50] deceit, malignity, whispers, detractors, hateful of God, inventors of evil things, [0:26:55] disobedient to parents, and on and on. Proud. Hold on. It said proud there. Yes. That's actually [0:27:00] super important in what you're describing because almost every mass shooter or [0:27:07] or terrorists that has been of the trans ideology or of the leftist ideology in general, [0:27:14] they subscribe to the pride. [0:27:17] And that is one of the, it is the deadliest of the seven sins. [0:27:21] And we've kind of thrown that to the wayside as a culture, [0:27:24] believing that it's just, you know, oh no, they're just proud to be who they are. [0:27:28] It's like, no, no, no. [0:27:29] There is a slippery slope attached when you celebrate pride in that way. [0:27:38] And it's gone so far now to where there, I mean, obviously in there it said hateful of God. [0:27:45] Being a transgender in itself is hateful of God because you believe that God is the one that made the mistake and you, man, are one to fix that mistake. [0:27:56] that God, so you're starting from the basis that you are already better than God and that you know [0:28:03] better and that your decision, your life from here on out is going to be fixing God's mistake [0:28:10] that he made in you. And so all, I mean, it's, it's very, I feel like that the word pride there [0:28:17] is, is very, very important to, to point out with what they, with what is celebrated in today's [0:28:24] culture. Oh yeah. And it's son of a, what, what the, hold on a second. My bad. I'm hitting the [0:28:32] wrong buttons. Um, you're right about this and it's not just, so they're the left, they're [0:28:41] celebrating pride. Right. And at first it was, well, you just need to like, let us love who we [0:28:47] love. But in today's culture, in 2026, it's to the point where it's compulsory that we also have [0:28:55] to celebrate it with them. We can't just tolerate their existence. We have to celebrate their error, [0:29:03] their sin with them. It's crazy. You can't even just passively allow it. And I think the people [0:29:13] like in that are coming to Idaho anyway, um, that are coming from California, you know, [0:29:17] they got tricked by it back in 2009. They thought, Oh, well, if we just let them do their thing, [0:29:24] they'll leave us alone. And it's like, uh, they can't because their lives are so disordered [0:29:30] that any reflection of truth, beauty, goodness, it, it pricks their conscience. They're reminded [0:29:39] of how far outside of the natural order they are leading their lives. [0:29:44] So they have to destroy it. [0:29:46] And of course, with leftism, you know, one of their chief goals is the destruction of [0:29:50] the family. [0:29:51] And that's just not going to work. [0:29:53] Although they don't know it. [0:29:55] Some do. [0:29:56] They don't. [0:29:57] Some do. [0:29:58] But most of the left, I would say, decide that their selfishness, that their desires, [0:30:06] their low impulsive pleasures are what's important and the side effect of that is the destruction of [0:30:12] the family and even though they don't realize it and that's that's the biggest trickery from [0:30:17] the left in that way is convincing the young people that like you just saw with aoc right [0:30:22] she's like freezing her eggs she's like 36 most of her eggs first of all are already gone like [0:30:27] most of the viable eggs already so she's like saving the remnants of what she has um which [0:30:33] the chances of that actually succeeding are slim to none. [0:30:37] Doesn't matter how much money she has, [0:30:39] but that story itself is going to be giving young women more hope that like, [0:30:44] oh, I could just freeze my eggs. [0:30:46] It does like our technology is so good. [0:30:48] I can get around what God designed me to do and what God wanted me to do. [0:30:52] I can put that off until later. [0:30:54] And many of these women don't understand that for one, [0:30:58] that doesn't really work all that often. [0:31:00] And it's a very low percentage when it actually does work, let alone from a 36-year-old. [0:31:07] Oh, yeah. [0:31:07] I mean, it's like 80% of viable eggs by the time you're 36 are already gone. [0:31:13] She's 36. [0:31:15] Yeah, she's 36, I believe. [0:31:17] I could be wrong, but she's at least 36. [0:31:20] Yeah, look at that. [0:31:20] Yeah, she's 36. [0:31:22] It was crazy. [0:31:22] You know, I went to college in Boston, and I think I was at a party that she was at back in the day. [0:31:29] Oh, gosh. [0:31:30] So it's, you know, and she was a bartender up there. [0:31:33] It's, it's crazy. [0:31:34] It's crazy. [0:31:35] She came out of nowhere. [0:31:37] Small world. [0:31:37] Yeah, it is. [0:31:38] Well, she was hired. [0:31:39] She was hired. [0:31:40] And this is, this is one thing you learn. [0:31:42] Actually, this is a big thing that I've learned. [0:31:45] While kind of being around the political crowd is that there are a lot of selected people. [0:31:52] and I've kind of understood a little bit how you become selected, [0:31:59] which is kind of why I'm still to the point where like, [0:32:03] you know, I changed tires for 16 years and now I quit that job [0:32:06] and I'm doing like general construction work right now. [0:32:10] So we're still like, you know, poor. [0:32:13] We're not rich, right? [0:32:15] But I'm only poor financially. [0:32:17] My personal life is going great. [0:32:19] I love my wife and my kids and like all that's good. [0:32:22] As long as the bills are paid, we're good. [0:32:25] But I have noticed and I've seen people in the way that they get selected. [0:32:30] I've turned down a lot of money over the past couple of years. [0:32:36] Because it seems like there's always something that comes with it. [0:32:42] It's always like they just want a little piece of your soul. [0:32:46] And then a little piece of your soul. [0:32:48] But if you keep doing that or if you give in, you're opening the door to do it again. [0:32:54] And I'm just so unwilling to do that that I would rather just stay this lower middle class redneck out in the middle of the woods. [0:33:04] And I love doing events. [0:33:06] I love going out and meeting people. [0:33:07] I love doing what I do. [0:33:10] But I like it where I'm at. [0:33:14] And as long as I don't have to sell my soul, I think I'll be good with Jesus when I meet him. [0:33:21] Amen. [0:33:21] So. [0:33:22] Amen. [0:33:22] Oh, yeah. [0:33:23] No, it's particularly insidious in the influencer sphere, especially, you know, these young kids. [0:33:29] They'll maybe make like one viral video, you know, we'll go out. [0:33:34] And then all of a sudden they're getting approached by all of these different organizations. [0:33:38] And, hey, why don't you come take a trip? [0:33:40] Trip to Israel. [0:33:42] And, you know, we'll pay for everything. [0:33:44] and we'll hook you up with money. [0:33:46] And, you know, and before you know it, [0:33:49] you know, they're Matt Walsh or Michael Knowles [0:33:51] and they're kind of trapped, you know, [0:33:53] working for Ben Shapiro. [0:33:55] Now, to go back to this idea of finding your tribe, [0:34:00] like I subscribe to this so wholeheartedly, you know, [0:34:05] because so much of what we're inundated with, [0:34:09] you know, and this show has kind of taken a turn, [0:34:12] you know, over the last six months, [0:34:13] since I've been solo or whatever, [0:34:15] where it's like, you know, [0:34:17] keeping up with all of the news [0:34:19] that we're flooded with on a daily basis [0:34:22] is just this constant barrage of negativity, [0:34:27] doomerism, the world is going to end. [0:34:29] And I mean, you know, the bond market is blowing up. [0:34:33] The economy is teetering on the edge of collapse. [0:34:37] That is absolutely true. [0:34:39] but what can we really do about it? And the answer is not much actually. So, you know, [0:34:49] taking, you know, taking the information and being aware of where we are situated, [0:34:54] but then to, to focus on what we actually have some level of control over. And that is at, [0:35:03] at the local level, it's at the family level. And then it's at the local level and something [0:35:06] we've been doing up here, which has been really good over the weekend, for example, [0:35:11] been hosting these monthly bonfires here in North Idaho. And it's been growing. It's growing. [0:35:20] I'm pretty happy with it. We had about 35 people at the one on Saturday. And we're going to be [0:35:26] doing more of these. So by the way, if you live in this area, Spokane, Coeur d'Alene, North Idaho, [0:35:31] whatever, and you want to find other based red-pilled people, shoot me a DM, shoot me an [0:35:36] email, info at thebacklash.net, and we'll get you hooked in. But we do, we need to rebuild social [0:35:43] fabric. And this is something else that I've been seeing. Alex at ODGG Supply, he's been doing this [0:35:50] too, these little weekend rucks up in the mountains. What are your thoughts on this kind of [0:35:56] movement of re you know getting out from behind the screens rebuilding social fabric getting to [0:36:03] actually know your neighbor uh what have what are your thoughts and what have you learned since [0:36:06] you've been doing that well i'll tell you what i think that with with all of the national news [0:36:13] especially most of it being international uh with trump restarting the wars overseas [0:36:17] um i would say that securing your foundations is probably the best thing that you can do [0:36:24] And that doesn't mean just ensuring that your relationship is good with your wife. It means it's good with Jesus. It means it's good with your friends. It means that, and not just relationships, but also building skills, learning new skills, figuring out what you can do to better yourself, your family, your future. [0:36:45] because we are going to come across hard times. [0:36:49] Like you said, our economy is like on the brink. [0:36:51] It's been on the brink for like 15 years. [0:36:53] We should have had a depression by now. [0:36:55] We haven't. [0:36:56] So when it does hit, it's going to be bad. [0:36:58] And you better be ready for them to also throw another COVID in the mix [0:37:02] right when the economy crashes. [0:37:04] They're just going to toss something like that in there. [0:37:06] So it's going to be a double whammy where we have a crashing economy [0:37:09] with this new COVID variant or something along those lines. [0:37:14] some kind of emergency to where it's just a double whammy [0:37:18] and we are going to be hit so hard [0:37:20] that if you don't have that foundation, [0:37:24] if you don't have that adaptability, [0:37:25] if you don't have the open mind enough [0:37:28] to adapt to the situation and overcome it, [0:37:31] if you're sedentary, if you just think that, [0:37:34] ah, we'll work it out, it'll be all right. [0:37:36] Well, we'll be okay, I'll put it off till later. [0:37:39] It's like, no, what you should be doing now [0:37:41] is making sure that your tribe, [0:37:43] that because, I mean, you cannot by yourself, [0:37:46] you cannot learn how to do everything. [0:37:49] You can't learn how to grow your own food [0:37:51] and be a medical expert [0:37:53] and also learn how to fix cars [0:37:55] and also be the best carpenter [0:37:57] and also and, and, and, right? [0:38:00] You just can't do that, you know? [0:38:02] But you find a tribe of people [0:38:03] and what's that old saying? [0:38:05] It's a... [0:38:06] Many hands make light work. [0:38:08] Jack, no, it's a jack of all trades. [0:38:11] But master of none. [0:38:12] But a master of one. [0:38:13] Right? No, it's jack of all trades, but a master of none. That's the... [0:38:17] I think the original one was the jack of all trades, but a master of one. [0:38:23] And I would agree with you that the more popular thing is a master of none. [0:38:29] But you should, whatever your specialty is, you should get good at that. [0:38:33] And your tribe should be surrounded with those people that are a jack of all trades, but a master of one. [0:38:40] right there that they have a particular unique skill and um yeah let's see starting the 1600s [0:38:51] compliment a person master of none added later as a criticism for lacking deep focus yeah so you're [0:38:56] right you're right it was a master of one that's how it started and then it shifted interesting [0:39:01] yeah and so that's that's what i've um kind of decided to be is like i want to be like a swiss [0:39:08] army knife, but I want my blade to be the sharpest blade around. Right. Or I want my corkscrew to be [0:39:13] the sharpest one around. Yeah. Like there's so many things in the Swiss army knife that, that [0:39:16] are, that are really good. But, uh, like PNW Gorilla, I live only a couple minutes from him. [0:39:22] And so we, we hang out fairly frequently. Uh, but he is, he is a genius in certain areas, [0:39:27] you know, but then there's other areas where he's just like, not about it, you know, but I, [0:39:32] I could help out with those things. Then I have other friends that are the same way. [0:39:35] they're really good at certain things and it's not like i'm just i'm i'm like recruiting it's [0:39:41] not like i'm catching my friends like pokemon or something you know like oh this one has that [0:39:46] specialty and that one has that specialty but no we have these things in common and it's mutually [0:39:51] beneficial you know like i needed to uh wire my generator into my house i had no idea how to do [0:39:57] that and i was like no i'm just gonna wing it but i called up my electrician buddy and i was like hey [0:40:00] guide me through this. [0:40:03] Because he's a master. He's a journeyman [0:40:05] electrician. He's been doing it [0:40:06] for 15 years. He's great at it. [0:40:09] And so when he came over [0:40:10] and he just [0:40:12] did probably most of the work [0:40:15] but I learned how to do it [0:40:17] and I could do it now. [0:40:18] One of those things, it's mutually beneficial. [0:40:21] You should be acquiring [0:40:23] skills. You should be building [0:40:25] real relationships with people [0:40:27] and that bonfire that you have, [0:40:28] dude, that's as Native American as it gets. That's amazing to see. I love it. [0:40:34] That's so great. [0:40:36] We'll have to get you out sometime. And yeah, what you're describing, that's another thing [0:40:41] that we've got going on in this year. And of course, it's not just here, it's nationwide, [0:40:45] but that is this, it's a new thing, the Catholic land movement just popped up basically after COVID. [0:40:50] We've got a chapter up here in North Idaho where they get together and they do the skills sharing. [0:40:57] Let's see, where's the rabbit butchering? [0:40:59] Here we go. [0:41:00] But, you know, how to butcher rabbits, how to bake bread, how to, you know, this past [0:41:07] Saturday, actually, before the bonfire, everybody was out helping. [0:41:11] There's a local monastery of nuns and their greenhouse or whatever got torn apart. [0:41:20] Here, come on, load. [0:41:21] Where's my internet? [0:41:22] The greenhouse got torn apart after a really bad windstorm. [0:41:27] And so this past weekend, everybody got together and, you know, started helping rebuild the greenhouses and stuff like that. [0:41:34] So, yeah, there is there is a lot of that going on. [0:41:36] I think we're going to start seeing other groups, you know, not just specifically Catholic, but getting into that. [0:41:44] Because, yeah, I mean, when I when we moved up here to North Idaho, it's like, all right, well, I'm going to start prepping. [0:41:49] and it was like literally day one. [0:41:52] And I'm looking around, I'm reading, [0:41:54] I'm like, holy shit, [0:41:56] the learning curve on all of this [0:41:59] is just so out of control. [0:42:01] I mean, you know, give it eight hours [0:42:03] just thinking it through [0:42:05] and you're going to realize [0:42:06] I'm not going to be able to do this on my own. [0:42:08] Actually, I need neighbors. [0:42:11] I need a friend network that I can lean on. [0:42:15] And it also is very helpful [0:42:16] when it comes to cancellation. [0:42:18] You know, I feel like I feel like the CIA definitely promoted a version of rugged individualism throughout the 50s and 60s as a way to combat the collectivism of communism. [0:42:38] Americanism? [0:42:39] Of the left. [0:42:40] Oh, OK. [0:42:41] And and that's like true. [0:42:43] Like it's in the it's in the it's in the reading. [0:42:45] OK, so it wasn't like a malevolent thing. [0:42:47] It's like they were actually trying to combat communism. [0:42:50] They were combating communism by promoting rugged individualism, but they hyped it up and they made it so hyper individualistic that now it's like, and I deal with this all the time, trying to network with boomers. [0:43:03] And it's like the moment that things aren't going their way, the moment that, you know, somebody has just a slightly different idea, like they're out, you know, it's like, well, if you want to do it that way, fine, you can do that. [0:43:16] And I'm over here, bud. And it's like, whoa, whoa. Like we we do have to work together, you know, like. [0:43:25] And so there is there is kind of a strain of that individualism that I think it's it's kind of gotten out of hand. [0:43:33] And I think that the younger generations are figuring that out. The the millennials, the Zoomers, they're looking at things like the housing market, the jobs market. [0:43:42] And they're like, yeah, I can't, I can't do this on my own. [0:43:45] I need to find other people. [0:43:47] Yeah. [0:43:48] But there's no way. [0:43:49] But also you don't want to submit to the idea that you have to have your wife work full time, right? [0:43:54] Like, okay, there's, there's, there's two types of women of, of working women. [0:43:58] And this is actually a big part of the destruction of nuclear family and why our country has turned to shit is because, or excuse me, can I cuss on this? [0:44:05] Absolutely. [0:44:06] Absolutely. [0:44:06] No, I'm kidding. [0:44:08] Okay. [0:44:09] All right. [0:44:09] Part of the reason why our country has turned to shit is because they turned women into factory workers. [0:44:15] And instead of women being man's helper, like they were godly designed to do, they became competition for men. [0:44:24] Now, inherently, you would think that, like, okay, why is competing with men a bad thing? [0:44:29] And, you know, in very few instances, it's not. [0:44:32] It's not for an exception to the rule. [0:44:34] It's not bad for a woman to compete with men if that is like, you know, her specialty, right? [0:44:41] But the problem when you vastly change the entire culture for women to be in constant competition with men is that the role of the helper is no longer there. [0:44:53] And so men don't have their helper. And so instead of having or seeking a monogamous long-term marriage relationship to build a family and legacy with, they resort to impulsive pleasures because it is very, very tempting to just seek out multiple women. [0:45:12] And when you have 10% of women at viable ages for bearing children, when they're on OnlyFans, and then that 80% of the other women have a body count that's in the double or triple digits, it destroys the culture. [0:45:33] so I don't think it was necessarily [0:45:36] a bad thing to allow [0:45:38] women to be able to compete with men [0:45:40] but it was a bad thing [0:45:42] that [0:45:43] so many women decided [0:45:46] that it was [0:45:47] that became their new role [0:45:49] they didn't become mothers and nurturers [0:45:52] they stepped away from a lot of [0:45:55] their godly [0:45:57] roles in order to try [0:45:59] and compete with men [0:46:00] men already compete with men [0:46:02] This is already what we're doing. We can't create children. Women are the only ones that can create [0:46:08] children. That's it. And so when that role is suddenly vacated to compete with men, you are [0:46:15] destroying the family just de facto because there's nobody else that can do it. And so women [0:46:23] are these special creatures that we've decided that like, okay, go compete in this other field. [0:46:28] It's like if you're a football player and all of a sudden it's like, well, we can all be basketball players now, so let's go play basketball. [0:46:37] And so everybody leaves football. [0:46:38] Well, there's not going to be any football players left. [0:46:41] It's just if I'm trying to make like a very lame in terms analogy for it. [0:46:48] But, you know, in all reality, women don't realize how special they actually are. [0:46:55] And with their urge to compete with men, especially in like body counts and the workplace and things like that, like they are destroying themselves. [0:47:05] They're destroying the family unit and they're destroying the future of this country. [0:47:08] And in a lot of ways, it's because men have allowed and incentivized it by saying that women should be competing with men, even though a role that can only be filled by women is being vacated by them doing this. [0:47:25] to what? To earn money? To become the next Chelsea Handler? Good job. She's like 50 years old, [0:47:32] single, masturbating to herself on a weekend. It's like, that sounds horrible. You know what's [0:47:38] awesome? You know what's really awesome is waking up with my son running and launching. I took a [0:47:44] nap the other day and you know how I woke up? My son jumped on the side of the couch and he [0:47:50] He climbed up on the side of the couch and he launched himself onto my chest. [0:47:54] That's how I woke up because I just like fell asleep on the couch and I was just like. [0:48:00] And if you don't have kids, you don't understand. [0:48:04] That is an amazing thing. [0:48:05] It's an incredible thing. [0:48:07] I don't wake up lonely. [0:48:08] I don't wake up like, you know, there's a lot of worries that I have in this world. [0:48:11] But having kids is like the best thing that you can possibly do. [0:48:14] Yeah. And and we've just we vacated that idea for the for the pursuit of like. [0:48:21] Yeah, I mean, men haven't helped either people like Andrew Tate and and his brother, you know, they're like, get money, get laid, die. [0:48:31] Very those people. No, it's very, very nihilistic. [0:48:35] And yeah, you know, and this has been something I've been thinking about a lot. [0:48:39] And, you know, I don't know if it's maybe I'll do a podcast about it at some point or whatever. [0:48:43] but it's like having kids is the antidote to selfishness, uh, in, in a very large way, [0:48:51] you know, it's, um, you know, and I, sometimes we don't realize how selfish we are. Uh, but you [0:48:58] know, all of a sudden you get two or three little kids and, you know, you, you got to take care of [0:49:03] me. Have you eaten your food? Have you, you know, made sure that you've, you know, cleaned up your [0:49:08] room or whatever it is, you know, but it takes the focus off of you. And it also is kind of an, [0:49:15] not only the antidote for selfishness, but for hope, you know, because it's like, I look at my [0:49:20] kids and it's like, no, I need to do something to help build a better future. And I refuse to [0:49:27] believe that we can't because they have to have a good future. And so damn it, I'm going to do [0:49:34] whatever, whatever I can. And so it kind of gives me hope, um, you know, for, for the future. [0:49:40] Whereas if I was, you know, single and alone living in some, some city, I'd probably, you [0:49:45] know, be pretty depressed. Um, but yeah. And that's what radicalized me is realizing that [0:49:51] like, Hey, what the hell? Like they're, you know, my kids aren't going to be able to buy a house. [0:49:56] If you guys keep doing this, if you guys keep spending money like this, there's no way we're [0:50:00] going to be able to, my kids are going to be able to do what I have. And what I have is a $250,000 [0:50:06] double wide that shouldn't be $250,000, but now it was worth almost half a million dollars for [0:50:12] some stupid reason. It's a double wide manufactured home with a garage. There's no reason why it [0:50:18] should be half a million dollars, but it was, it's the, it's the, uh, exponential devaluation [0:50:26] of our dollar that is destroying everything. And that really radicalized me understanding that [0:50:30] Like you guys are screwing over my kids and I hate this. [0:50:34] I can't stand it. [0:50:35] Oh yeah. [0:50:36] Now I was going to ask what was, [0:50:37] what was it that activated you to start doing podcasts and the Patriot [0:50:42] Prayer Network? [0:50:43] Was it, [0:50:43] was it COVID? [0:50:47] I would say it was the reaction to COVID. [0:50:49] Sure. [0:50:50] Um, [0:50:50] because before the mandates and everything came down, [0:50:55] I was very nervous about COVID. [0:50:57] I saw what was happening over in China. [0:50:59] I saw their propaganda videos of the people just falling over and passing out in the streets. [0:51:03] I was like calculating the exponential growth of this virus, how it could overwhelm our system. [0:51:10] But as soon as our governor came out and said, we have to lock down, and they wanted to shut down business for two weeks, that's when I was like, no, I'm not doing that. [0:51:23] I'm not doing that. [0:51:24] And that's when I turned against almost everything we're saying the entire time. [0:51:29] But what really demoralized me and being a nobody with no followers or anything like that, you know, I didn't even really have social media at the time, was the many men that I looked up to and respected who folded to the mandates, who just decided that it wasn't worth fighting for. [0:51:51] And I heard every excuse in the book and I kind of come, came to the realization that [0:51:57] like, you know what, maybe I should stand up and start speaking out because all these, [0:52:05] all these men that I, you know, that cherished freedom is what I thought they, they enjoyed, [0:52:10] you know, they, they had the strong spirit. [0:52:13] It turns out they didn't. [0:52:14] And so I was like, you know what, maybe I have to do that because I think that there's [0:52:18] more people out in the country like me that are just as confused as to what the what is actually [0:52:25] happening why did 2200 restaurants in washington states have to close their doors forever because [0:52:33] daddy government said so they their businesses their lifelong businesses got completely ruined [0:52:39] because daddy government was like this cold is too intense you have to close your doors you have to [0:52:45] spend all this money and all this extra bullshit, which came out later as completely bullshit. [0:52:50] The whole six foot thing, the whole outside is actually inside. If it's outside, you know, [0:52:55] the entire, all of it was bullshit. They just, they made it up. And, and at the time I was like [0:53:03] screaming, but I didn't have any following. I had, I had nothing, you know, it's just like that. [0:53:07] Why is everybody doing this? Right. So I decided to speak up and then there was, uh, you know, [0:53:13] a couple of different opportunities to kind of present itself that, um, it seemed like it was [0:53:19] good to, to defend people who are willing to stand against tyranny, be it social or governmental. [0:53:26] So, yeah. And I like those people. So, and I try to back them. [0:53:31] No, that's, that's great. That's, that's amazing. Um, now we do have, we're coming up, [0:53:36] geez, that's incredible how quickly time flies. We're coming up already on, uh, on an hour. I [0:53:42] don't know how much time you have. I do want to be respectful of it, but there were two other things, [0:53:46] at least, that I wanted to get into you or get into with you here. [0:53:53] Whoa, I'm a married man. [0:53:54] Hello, hello. Speaking of traditional family values, no, I'm kidding. But no, there is, [0:54:01] you know, something that's kind of going on, obviously, with white people, right? And over [0:54:06] the past decade, it's become very clear with cultural Marxism, with, you know, affirmative [0:54:12] action and everything that's been going on in the liberal establishment education system, [0:54:17] you know, white people have been vilified. [0:54:20] We've been persecuted. [0:54:22] We have been systematically excluded from jobs. [0:54:25] Of course, now we've got this H-1B thing that's going on, which black, white, Native [0:54:31] American, doesn't matter. [0:54:32] We've got Jeets coming in and taking over. [0:54:36] Of course, Micron down in Boise is going nuts. [0:54:41] We'll get into that in a different episode. [0:54:44] They're claiming they're going to make 17,000 jobs, and it's like, dude, no. [0:54:48] Like, you're going to hire a couple of Mexican contractors, and then all of this staff that you're going to bring on is, you know, going to be Indian. [0:54:57] But with that, you know, people have been waking up and they've been realizing that their neighborhoods are gone. [0:55:05] You know, we had white flight out of the cities, of course, you know, back in the 60s and 70s, forced integration. [0:55:12] And it's like, you know, where are we going to be able to have our own thing, you know? [0:55:16] And that's kind of becoming pervasive. [0:55:19] And there's a couple of different groups that have been popping up. [0:55:22] One of them is this group called Return to the Land with this guy, Arvel, who has been a guest on this podcast. That's not it. But there's some developments that are going on with RTTL in that they are getting sued. [0:55:41] They're getting sued by the federal government. [0:55:44] They're getting sued by other people that feel excluded from whatever trailer park they're building down there in Arkansas. [0:55:52] And, you know, it's really wild. [0:55:56] So I was actually – I was talking over the weekend with a guy from Housing and Urban Development. [0:56:01] I don't know how the hell I made that connection. [0:56:03] But, you know, that's the branch of government that's, you know, working on subsidized housing and low income housing and all of this type of stuff. [0:56:13] Well, they're in the process of now getting sued, right? [0:56:18] RTTL announced a couple days ago that they are suing the government. [0:56:24] Come on. [0:56:25] There we go. [0:56:25] Suing the government. [0:56:26] So they're, of course, suing HUD. [0:56:28] and you know it just you got some questions about this you know are they kind of doing [0:56:37] like reservations like it it feels kind of defeatist this idea of like well we're just [0:56:45] going to like go out into the middle of nowhere and make an all-white community and [0:56:50] abandoning the cities abandoning the institutions I feel like it's a reservation mentality [0:56:57] Have you heard of these guys? [0:56:59] What are your thoughts on? [0:57:00] I mean, like, I'm not opposed to the idea of white people being able to freely associate [0:57:05] or build their own associations, build their own neighborhoods. [0:57:09] I think that's fine. [0:57:11] But is it bigger than that? [0:57:14] Do you know what I mean? [0:57:16] Well, I have heard of them. [0:57:19] And it's not necessarily a bad idea. [0:57:22] In the same way that I thought reservations themselves weren't a bad idea. [0:57:26] But if you look at reservations today and how much culture they preserved, it is little to none. [0:57:34] The cultural preservation that reservations have provided is almost nothing. [0:57:40] What ends up inevitably happening is there becomes a victim mentality that, you know, the rest of the world is why you're here and this is why your life sucks. [0:57:48] Also, we have this socialist ideal to where we're going to help out our own, you know. [0:57:53] And if you look at the reservations when they have free health care, very cheap housing, and then a lot of drugs, what ends up happening, the end result of all those good intentions is drunk Indians and drug addicted Indians and then gangs. [0:58:10] That's what happens. [0:58:11] And there's, I mean, there's almost no exception to these reservations. [0:58:15] They've been impoverished despite getting, if you look at like the last couple of years, the Native American federally recognized reservations get about $33 billion per year. [0:58:29] Okay. [0:58:30] It's not, yeah, it's $33 billion annually. [0:58:33] If that's not paying their dues for what they were owed for whatever treaty or whatever was broken, they've already received more than that. [0:58:42] It's $33 billion annually. [0:58:44] It's insane. [0:58:45] They get a ton of money. There's no reason why they should have that much poverty, that much drunkenness, that much druggy drug problems and gang violence. There's no reason for it. The reason is, is because they've created sedentary people that don't want to go out and get some. [0:59:05] So my advice to white people in this way would be to not concede to an area that will inevitably be impoverished, but it is to reclaim ground from these communists. [0:59:22] A big part of that is reconquering your white women. [0:59:27] Your white women have been conquered. [0:59:29] Your white women have been poisoned. [0:59:30] And it is insane to see the amount of insanity coming from liberal white women. [0:59:38] There needs to be more liberal white women converted to being traditional housewives. [0:59:44] That needs to be the first step of what is to be conquered next. [0:59:47] It doesn't need to be some podunk land out in Arkansas or Arizona or wherever you want to build these reservations. [0:59:54] You need to reconquer your women. [0:59:57] turn them into pro-white pro uh america very patriotic god-fearing traditional women that [1:00:06] would be the first step and it is like it is overlooked because they're like oh women are [1:00:11] it's like yeah because like start fixing that don't let them be whores anymore you know and [1:00:17] you yourself stop being a man whore and and find a woman and and make her your wife i don't know [1:00:24] Like that's the way to fix the future. [1:00:26] And I'm, [1:00:27] I'm being dead serious on this. [1:00:29] We need more white women to be traditional housewives. [1:00:33] We need them to be fierce fighters. [1:00:35] Like if you look at the movie, [1:00:36] what is this movie? [1:00:39] It's one of my favorite movies. [1:00:41] It's a Christmas movie. [1:00:42] It's a wonderful life. [1:00:43] Yes. [1:00:44] Right. [1:00:45] It's wonderful. [1:00:46] That's such a beautiful movie, [1:00:47] but you can see like the woman in it. [1:00:51] Nobody would ever say that that woman is not a hard-ass worker. [1:00:56] She basically rebuilt that entire house. [1:00:59] She took care of all the kids. [1:01:00] She cooked all the food. [1:01:02] She took care of her husband. [1:01:03] She rallied all the people to save her husband's life. [1:01:07] If you don't think women can be fucking powerful as stay-at-home moms, [1:01:11] just watch that movie and understand that women have the power to do everything. [1:01:15] And when we allow our women to be stupid, dumbass, polyamorous communists, then this is what we get in the country. [1:01:24] This is what we get. [1:01:26] So if we just segregate ourselves into these little reservations, white people are going to be screwed. [1:01:32] And I don't want to see that. [1:01:33] I love white people. [1:01:35] Half my family is white. [1:01:36] And everything that was built around me was by white people. [1:01:41] I like that. [1:01:42] I like this country. [1:01:43] I want to see it thrive and continue, but y'all need to, you really need to get on saving your white women. [1:01:50] I'll tell you what. [1:01:51] Oh, no, I think you're, I think you're spot on. [1:01:54] And, you know, there's, there's an angle of this and maybe I don't know the right way to approach it, but it's like, you know, as people are kind of waking up to this cultural Marxism thing, the kind of, you know, systemic assault on, on, you know, European American identity or whatever, whatever you want to call it. [1:02:13] you know, the, the core, the core thing, and, and we talked about it in Rome. We're talking [1:02:21] about it here on the reservations. There's a core spiritual need that, that there is that [1:02:27] everybody has. And without that, like, look at how the, the native reservations have gone. [1:02:32] Right. I mean, they're, they're just as, you know, NPC as, as the rest of us. And it's because [1:02:40] they don't have this like structural foundational, um, tradition, spiritual tradition that's holding [1:02:49] people together. That's holding the culture together. Uh, you know, [1:02:54] no, they get money as long as they're obedient to the government. Right. Right. They just get money. [1:02:59] And this is, so I, I did some, uh, I did some grok math recently. Where, where did it go? Did [1:03:04] I, uh, X out of it, but I did grok math and I guess it's, uh, it's actually not that much, [1:03:09] once you, I guess depending on how, [1:03:13] let me pull this back up. [1:03:14] Where is it? [1:03:15] It says, I asked, [1:03:17] so it says that there's 7.7 to 9.7 million natives [1:03:21] or people in the United States [1:03:23] who identify as American Indian. [1:03:24] Now, of course, that probably includes Elizabeth Warren, [1:03:28] you know, so I don't know if that's really accurate, [1:03:33] but, you know, if you gave $33 billion, [1:03:35] That would, I think, total about $4,300 per person per year, which actually isn't that much. [1:03:43] But I don't know if these numbers are really true. [1:03:47] See, the smaller figure would be $8,900 each. [1:03:52] But there is something going on. [1:03:54] There is some level of mismanagement that's happening. [1:03:56] Ask Grok this. [1:03:59] Say, how much money do federally recognized Native American tribes receive annually? [1:04:03] And I think I, last time I researched this, it was around $33 billion per year. [1:04:11] And so you're, what you searched up was the Native American people. [1:04:15] Like what do they receive from the federal government? [1:04:17] It's not the people, it's the tribes. [1:04:19] And they use that to funnel money back to Democrats who are giving them all these grants [1:04:26] to get cheaper, you know, ways to build casinos or whatever the heck they do with the tribes. [1:04:32] It's just many governments that are completely corrupt for the most part. [1:04:37] I'm sure that there's some good being done, but they get free health care. [1:04:40] They get free, you know, I mean, their hunting licenses are different. [1:04:46] They live by a completely different set of rules. [1:04:49] But a lot of this money that is given to the tribes are not, it's not like it's given to the natives. [1:04:56] It's not that some tribes give a good amount of money per month. [1:05:00] some tribes, I know the Puyallup tribe near me, [1:05:04] I think they give like two or $4,000 per month to their people. [1:05:09] Federally recognized tribes, there's about 575 of them. [1:05:14] They don't receive a single uniform annual payment. [1:05:17] Instead, they collectively benefit from tens of billions of dollars [1:05:20] in federal funding each year through many programs, blah, blah, blah, [1:05:23] overall scale. [1:05:25] Yeah, $32 to $37.5 billion total goes to the tribes. [1:05:31] Fiscal year 2025 was $34 billion. [1:05:36] Includes discretionary appropriations, mandatory funding, multi-year infrastructure, climate investments. [1:05:42] What's climate invest—what is that, you know? [1:05:45] What is this? [1:05:47] It's obedience. [1:05:48] Yes. [1:05:48] It's obedience. [1:05:49] it's it's when they're obedient to what the government wants they get money and they funnel [1:05:54] it right back into their parties it is just a slush fund it is most of it is like the same way [1:06:00] unions have gone where the yeah union members get paid more but most or a significant portion of the [1:06:06] money is funneled right back into the democrat party or right back into the republican party [1:06:11] whoever gave it to them it doesn't matter they're the same thing it's funneled right back into the [1:06:15] government instead of them actually using it to benefit their own people. A lot of it is just, [1:06:21] it's a reoccurring cycle. Yes. Oh yeah. I was going to say there was, um, I think it was [1:06:27] on the Idaho Tribune a while ago. I'm probably not going to find the right article here. Um, [1:06:34] but there was this big, big to do here in North Idaho a couple of years ago with North Idaho [1:06:42] College. And they were basically what happened, you know, the college shut down with the masks and [1:06:48] the COVID jab and the mandates and all of that type of stuff. And that, that activated the [1:06:53] conservatives, the conservatives, I think it was in 2022, they won a majority on this local community [1:06:58] college board. And then the guns came out and there were all these different groups, save NIC [1:07:04] and blah, blah, blah, that, you know, all came out of the woodwork basically to reclaim the college [1:07:09] and put it back into the hands of the liberals. [1:07:12] And I remember when I was doing some research, [1:07:15] I was writing some articles on this, [1:07:16] and it came out that the biggest donor [1:07:19] to this liberal group was the Coeur d'Alene tribe. [1:07:24] And it's like, what the heck is going on? [1:07:28] And then, of course, there's this big alliance [1:07:32] that happened specifically here in Coeur d'Alene [1:07:35] between the tribe, the city, the college, and the Southern Poverty Law Center, right? Because [1:07:43] there was this big fight with the Aryan nations. And so that was the side that they fell on. [1:07:51] Now, there is an interesting story, a couple of other interesting stories, actually. Let me pull [1:07:57] one up. Let me see. I need to work on being able to talk and type at the same time. Now, [1:08:04] Now, yeah, so when it comes to some very interesting Native American history here in the Pacific Northwest, the first one that we'll talk about is Al Capone's older brother, James Vincenzo Capone. [1:08:20] Now, James Vincenzo Capone was a very patriotic young guy. He didn't get mixed up in the underworld and in the crime and all of that that was going on with his brother Al. [1:08:37] No, he joined the army. [1:08:39] I think he went off to fight in World War I. [1:08:41] And then when he came back, he decided to get a job working for the federal government. [1:08:48] And it's really interesting. [1:08:51] So he went by a fake name. [1:08:53] So if you try to Google his Wikipedia, James Vincenzo Capone doesn't really pop up. [1:08:58] But Richard James Hart does. [1:09:00] That was his fake name, which he stole from an actor. [1:09:07] He came from Salerno, Italy. [1:09:09] Couldn't really speak English that well. [1:09:12] So what he did was he pretended to be a Native American. [1:09:17] And in 1926, he became a special agent for the Bureau of Indian Affairs. [1:09:25] Okay? [1:09:26] And so what's really interesting is while he was an agent with the Bureau of Indian Affairs, [1:09:33] he also became a prohibition agent. [1:09:36] And as you can see here, he was credited with the arrest of at least 20 killers in the area, and he pursued Indian lawbreakers hunting down moonshiners and destroying their stills. [1:09:48] He spent some time as a law enforcement officer in the Coeur d'Alene Reservation here in Plummer, Idaho. [1:09:54] Wait, so this is an anti-Dukes of Hazzard kind of guy? I don't like him. [1:09:59] What is this? [1:10:00] So, you know, mea culpa, I didn't watch Dukes of Hazzard, so I don't understand. [1:10:07] I don't understand the direction. [1:10:10] But you live in Idaho. You're supposed to be redneck. [1:10:12] Yeah, I am a redneck. That's true. I mean, go look at my front yard. [1:10:15] I've got chickens and everything running around. It's crazy. [1:10:19] But yeah, so you've got this guy, James Capone, speaks crappy English. [1:10:25] You know, he becomes a fake Native American with the Bureau of Indian Affairs. [1:10:31] And, of course, this leads to something that I've been wanting to develop and research more. [1:10:36] But, you know, I don't think that he was up here to actually get rid of alcohol. [1:10:43] He was here to ensure that the Chicago product made it out to Seattle. [1:10:49] And so this was like a drug trafficking corridor, essentially. [1:10:53] And he was their enforcement guy. [1:10:55] which is, I think, super interesting. And we'll definitely dive deeper into that because once you [1:11:02] do dig into the history of it, you realize that actually Al Capone was kind of involved in [1:11:09] mining in Idaho. He was using the mines to launder funds and money, which people don't [1:11:16] really know about. It's very fascinating history. But another kind of fascinating history up here, [1:11:22] and I don't know if you know about it or not, but it is Chief Red Cloud. Are you aware of [1:11:28] Chief Red Cloud Elwood Towner? You ever hear of this guy? Nope, I don't think so. Oh, wow. Well, [1:11:35] he's certainly an interesting fella. We've got a nice picture of him here as he was addressing [1:11:44] the German-American Bund in the 1930s and 40s. He was a lawyer, actually, I think, based out of [1:11:52] Portland, Oregon. There's like a couple of, there's a couple of articles about this guy, [1:11:57] the strange case of the Northwest Native American Nazi. But it's, it's really weird. But he, he was, [1:12:05] he was like very involved with the, the, the Native American, I think it was called the [1:12:12] freedom movement. Man, I should have done some more research into this. [1:12:17] Yeah. Look at the values of those movements though. The values of those movements, [1:12:21] like what they espouse and what their, what their goals were. [1:12:24] It's not like they were evil. [1:12:26] They're not like cleanse the world of the dirty Jews. [1:12:29] No, they had preserved nationalism. [1:12:33] They, they wanted people to be more patriotic in a lot of ways. [1:12:36] Like I see the flag that you have in the background. [1:12:38] I know what that flag is. [1:12:39] Oh yeah. [1:12:39] Yeah. [1:12:39] I have, I have the AI version right behind me. [1:12:42] Yeah. [1:12:43] Yeah. [1:12:43] It's the native Americans beware of foreign influence. [1:12:46] Oh yeah, absolutely. [1:12:47] Oh yeah. [1:12:48] Like that, that kind of idea is now turned into, you know, what is perceived as, as Nazism. And I don't think that a lot of these movements that were happening in America that were adopting that Nazi idea were as evil as they said, like, you just see that and you're like, oh, oh, no, oh, they were gonna, they were gonna attack the Jews here. [1:13:10] and it's like, no, no, no. [1:13:12] There was a strong message being sent [1:13:15] that never was able to flesh itself out. [1:13:20] Instead, like if you look at the, [1:13:23] like what we learned from World War II, [1:13:27] I think the main thing that we should have learned [1:13:30] as a country is to never side with the communist. [1:13:33] And that's it. [1:13:35] You know, I talk about this with people all the time [1:13:38] And it's like, we're against communism, right? We're against Bolshevism, right? Then why did we enter an alliance with communist Bolsheviks? What were we doing? Were we really on the right side? [1:13:54] Now, I don't want to I don't want to dig too deep into, you know, revisionism here necessarily. [1:14:01] But, you know, it's with a lot of these these young people, too, you know, especially today, you know, because you got these freaks that are running around. [1:14:11] Oh, we're getting a resurgence of Nazism in the country and blah, blah, anti-Semitism and blah, blah, blah, blah. [1:14:16] And it's just like, actually, no, you know, I don't think people are actually national socialist. [1:14:24] And furthermore, and there's a guy named American Reform, and we're going to have him back on the channel. [1:14:30] And we've done a lot of like looking at this stuff. [1:14:33] But it's like, you know, when the Catholic Church condemned Nazism, they were condemning some very specific things. [1:14:42] They were imprisoning priests. [1:14:44] They were preventing people from sending their kids off to get a Catholic education. [1:14:50] You know, they had this conception of the state, you know, with Hitler Youth and all of this stuff. [1:14:54] They wound up abolishing all of the Catholic youth groups. [1:14:57] And that was wrong. [1:14:59] And they broke the Concordat. [1:15:00] And they were condemned for that. [1:15:02] But there was a lot of stuff that they did right, actually, when it comes to, you know, the men would go out and earn the household. [1:15:10] You can look at – you were talking about incentivizing having children. [1:15:15] There was a program where if you got married, you would be eligible to get like a loan of 1,000 or 100,000 Deutschmarks. [1:15:24] And for every child that you had, 20,000 Deutschmarks would be written off the debt. [1:15:29] So basically like you could get married, get a loan, buy a house, and then if you have five kids, the mortgage on the house will be paid off and you're free and clear. [1:15:38] Um, and so, you know, there is some, some interesting stuff and I focus more, I guess, [1:15:44] on like Spain during that period of time, because Spain really got it right in that [1:15:50] they never even entered world war II, you know, and they were, um, they were able to [1:15:55] create a state that had Jesus Christ as the foundation, as the bond between all of the [1:16:02] different, you know, subcultures in Spain. And on Wednesday this week, actually, my podcast with [1:16:10] brother Andre Marie that's coming up, we talk a lot about the Spanish Carlist movement, which was [1:16:16] really good and should be a model, frankly, for where we are here in America, you know, going [1:16:22] forward. But yeah, no, it's interesting. And it's like, you know, you get lied to about so much of [1:16:27] this stuff that there's this kind of natural reaction in the other way. And so like, yeah, [1:16:34] Nazism is like actually not the best thing in the world. Like Hitler fucked up. And so like, [1:16:41] you know, and man, people are constantly coming at me. You're a Nazi. You're not. It's like, [1:16:46] actually, no, I'm not. But the key critique is that, you know, in Germany at that time, [1:16:53] It was 75% Protestant and 25% Catholic. [1:16:56] And you're dealing with this Bolshevik threat that just demolishes culture. [1:17:02] It demolishes countries. [1:17:04] It just chews people up and spits them out. [1:17:06] And in the face of this threat rising in the East, you know, the Germans needed to push [1:17:13] back on it. [1:17:13] And there was very little unity in Germany. [1:17:16] There was a lot of division based on class. [1:17:19] There was division based on your religion. [1:17:21] And so in order to get some unity back, they made the focal point the German people themselves. [1:17:31] And it worked. [1:17:32] It did work for them. [1:17:33] But I also would argue that it was not sufficient. [1:17:38] They lost. [1:17:39] And I think it's because they didn't make Jesus the center and the point of unity for all of the German people. [1:17:45] Of course, they couldn't do that because there was, you know, all of this tension between Catholicism and Protestantism and all of that. [1:17:51] That would actually be something fascinating to kind of go back and see. [1:17:57] It's like, if Jesus was the center of the Germans, [1:18:03] what could they have done to not just preserve their culture, [1:18:08] but to mitigate the aggressiveness that they decided to use towards the rest of the world? [1:18:17] Because that was a lot of, and I feel like communists really, [1:18:21] Like, you know how, okay, I'll use another layman's terminology. [1:18:28] You know how in football, when there's an initial interaction, and then the reaction is the one that gets caught by the ref? [1:18:36] I feel like the communists are really good at that. [1:18:42] Provoking. [1:18:42] That skill. [1:18:44] Yeah. [1:18:45] Like making everybody think that the reaction is what the problem actually is. [1:18:50] It was never the initial aggression. It was the reaction to it. So if you see, like a lot of what the Germans were doing at the time was literally trying to save their country. It was what they did to save their country. That's what was evil. [1:19:12] right that's that's what was made completely evil um and a lot of it was built on a lot of [1:19:18] propaganda and uh you know i mean there's there i there's no way that i would be able to describe [1:19:24] everything that happened uh that led to that but i can see it's like i mean everybody here [1:19:32] likes the story of marvin hemeyer right the the uh bulldozer guy yeah sure killdozer yeah killdozer [1:19:41] It's because he was a guy trying to do the right thing, but was never really allowed to do so. [1:19:49] And so he ended up doing something incredibly destructive. [1:19:53] And I almost feel like that's the way the German people went. [1:19:58] It's like they were never allowed to preserve their culture. [1:20:02] It wasn't allowed by the rest of the world. [1:20:05] And then in order to, they just ended up just going all the way. [1:20:11] instead of like, I don't know what they could have possibly done to actually stop that train, [1:20:18] but it seemed like there was an inevitable route that they were set on as soon as they stood up [1:20:23] and said no once. When white people chimp out. What's that? I said when white people chimp out. [1:20:32] yeah exactly yeah but but i mean really that that's it's and i mean it's possible i could [1:20:41] be wrong my my understanding of world war ii is has has shifted drastically over the past couple [1:20:46] years from what i learned in like school um to what you actually see like okay well what were [1:20:52] the german people going through okay what were the deals that they tried to make with them uh at [1:20:56] the time what what actually happened what treaties came out with the with the jewish people at the [1:21:01] time what did they try to do to prevent uh you know any of this actually going to a world war [1:21:08] and then once you start asking those questions and you see like okay well well like what were [1:21:12] they what were they supposed to do it's like but are you supposed to just suffer because of what [1:21:20] happened in world war one it's like they they it's just like the german people they just get [1:21:24] to suffer now yeah that's just what they get to do and and it's like why um so uh you know if you [1:21:31] if you ask those questions and you come at it from, [1:21:34] from a stance of not just that everything you learned was correct, [1:21:38] but, [1:21:40] but actually trying to like put yourself in those shoes, [1:21:43] then you kind of come out with a, [1:21:45] with a different outcome. [1:21:46] And it almost, [1:21:47] it like the best analogy I can use is that Marvin Hemeyer analogy. [1:21:51] It's just like, [1:21:52] they just decided one day it's like, [1:21:54] fine, [1:21:54] I tried everything. [1:21:55] And so we're just going to go this way. [1:21:57] Now, [1:21:58] does it mean that it's good? [1:22:00] No, [1:22:00] you know, [1:22:00] probably not. [1:22:01] it's not the best route to go. [1:22:03] You know, [1:22:03] like that's not the best route to go out is to, [1:22:06] uh, [1:22:06] you know, [1:22:06] drive up is to build this incredible killdozer, [1:22:09] drive it through town and then take your own life. [1:22:11] Like that's not the best route to go. [1:22:14] Right. [1:22:14] Probably. [1:22:15] But, [1:22:16] uh, [1:22:16] but, [1:22:16] but it's also understandable. [1:22:18] And I wish that they would just teach history in a way that you could [1:22:21] actually understand why that happened. [1:22:23] Like why it came to be, [1:22:25] uh, [1:22:25] in that way, [1:22:26] because we've been so propagandized to think that it was just like, [1:22:29] he was just this guy that just hated the Jews and wanted them all exterminated. And that was his [1:22:34] only goal. And he hated the rest of the world because they didn't hate the Jews as much. And [1:22:38] it's like, well, that's, you know, that's not the whole story, you know, kind of leaving some [1:22:43] key components out there. Oh yeah. And it is, it is super important. And I'll, we'll get into this [1:22:49] when I read the ads at the end of the show, which is fast approaching. Um, but you know, uh, [1:22:54] Antelope Hill Publishing has a lot of great books that will help you get some, some of that [1:22:58] perspective, but it's, it's true. I mean, you know, there's that meme that's been going around [1:23:03] why America, right. Uh, which is, uh, you know, hearkening back to Weimar Germany. This is, [1:23:09] you know, when, when Germany was, uh, in, in, in the wreckage of world war one, [1:23:14] they owed all of these countries, uh, money. The treaty of Versailles was bleeding the German [1:23:20] people dry. They were unable to pay their debts. Uh, and all of a sudden people started to realize, [1:23:25] Wait a minute. Who runs the banks? Who runs the media? Who's pushing? You know, who's Magnus Hirschfeld at the Institute for Sexual Research pushing, you know, the first transgender surgeries and and all of this stuff? [1:23:38] And all of a sudden, you know, there's this consciousness that arises. [1:23:41] And, you know, this is a very similar space as to where we are now. [1:23:47] And that's why I think it is important for especially Christians to talk about this stuff and to dig into it, to not be afraid of going into the history. [1:23:56] Because, you know, we, you know, there is a rising sentiment among people that hate Jews. [1:24:03] It's true. [1:24:04] That's out there. [1:24:05] Now, I will make a distinction here that, like, you know, criticizing Jews isn't the same as wanting them to die, which is, of course, what they've hit me with over the years. [1:24:15] You know, oh, he hates the Jews. [1:24:16] He wants them all to die. [1:24:17] It's like, no, I just noticed a couple of things and we should probably talk about it. [1:24:23] But, you know, I tweeted this out over the weekend and I got some pushback on it. [1:24:27] But, you know, it's true. [1:24:29] We are called to love our enemies. [1:24:32] Right. [1:24:32] We are called to love them. [1:24:33] And with whatever it is that we're doing, whether it's American nationalism, America first, you know, reclaiming our sovereignty back. [1:24:44] This is all, at least from my perspective, and I was explaining this to an Antifa person that, you know, I was friends with when I was in college. [1:24:53] And they looked me up and they were like, holy shit, you're a Nazi now. [1:24:55] And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. [1:24:56] Like, chill. [1:24:58] Like, I love my family. [1:25:01] I love my children. [1:25:02] I love my parents. [1:25:03] their heritage, our story. I love this country. And everything that I'm trying to do here is [1:25:12] based on love. It really is not to be like a hippie freak about it, but it's true, you know? [1:25:18] And I feel like we need to make sure that we don't lose sight of that, that we are doing this out of [1:25:24] love. And it's like, I love my enemies even. And it's like, it is not an act of love to allow, [1:25:31] for example, a, like a black person that's a murderer, it is not an act of love to release [1:25:38] them from jail so that they can go around killing more people. It is not an act of love to allow [1:25:44] Jews to commit the sin of usury that will send their souls to hell. It's, it's not love to let [1:25:51] them do that or to push pornography or whatever. So what we do should be based on love. We need to [1:25:57] love our enemies. And the moment that, um, the regime, right. Uh, if they're going to keep [1:26:06] voices like yours or mine, or if they're going to, if they're going to come after us, well, [1:26:10] guess what's left a bunch of radical people that actually are going to like line y'all up against [1:26:14] the wall. Like, so we need to be able to be open to have those kinds of difficult conversations. [1:26:21] but hopefully, you know, at the end, something true, something based on love will, will win in [1:26:29] the end. I don't know. We'll see. Yeah. They've tried to, I've, you know, they tried to cancel [1:26:33] me a couple of times. It's like, what are you going to do? I'll go find another manual labor [1:26:37] job that, you know, I, I don't live out of my means. I live in a very modest house, you know, [1:26:43] it's like, and even if I, even if I lost this house, I'd be able to get a trailer and live on [1:26:49] a property. There's nothing that could possibly happen that would disincentivize what I'm doing [1:26:58] or what I'm saying. The material possessions that I have, that's all that they are. They're [1:27:04] just material possessions. And it's not like I have a ton. So I'm not really worried about it. [1:27:09] And I've also not sold my soul to get a bunch more of those material possessions. So it's like, [1:27:15] You're not going to tempt me in that way to sell my soul. [1:27:18] And also, you can try and take whatever I got. [1:27:21] First of all, it's not much. [1:27:23] Second of all, I'm going to defend what I got. [1:27:26] So, you know, I mean, you talk about radical people. [1:27:30] Like, I don't come across as very... [1:27:31] Well, actually, I don't know. [1:27:32] I mean, there's some people that say that I'm fairly radical. [1:27:36] But I feel like I've always considered myself like a well-armed hippie. [1:27:42] You know? [1:27:42] Like, I want peace and love and everything. [1:27:44] but I'm also well-armed and ready to defend myself and my family and my [1:27:49] community and my country. So. [1:27:52] Oh yeah. No, I, and, and you have to be, you know, it's like, listen, [1:27:55] we have free speech. We're here to use it. [1:27:57] And the moment that somebody decides that, you know, [1:28:00] the time for speech is over, well then, okay, fine. Come at me, bro. [1:28:04] Like come at me. I'm ready for it. I'm ready. [1:28:08] Uh, but yeah, Maurice, thank you so much for joining me today. [1:28:10] We're going to, we're definitely going to have to have you back and we're [1:28:12] going to, we're going to dig into some other topics in the future. And, uh, maybe one of [1:28:17] these days I'll even, uh, meet up with you guys, uh, for a rock or something. And you guys can [1:28:21] make fun of how woefully out of shape I am. Uh, but, uh, if you want to give a, I'm only in like, [1:28:28] I'm in, I'm in decent shape, right? Like, uh, you know, I, I, it's hard keeping up with Alex. [1:28:34] Alex is, he's a, he's a wild man. He can do a lot. He's got like retard maxing, uh, to the limit, [1:28:41] you know, retard strength. He's got like a retard maxed business. He just, you know, [1:28:46] makes money. It's man, that guy, you know, I love him. I love him. Uh, we're going to have to have [1:28:51] him back on the show too. Maybe, maybe one of these days I'll drive out and the three of us [1:28:55] can just like hike up in the woods, bring a camera and just go nuts and, uh, have a crazy [1:29:00] podcast. But, uh, if you want to just plug, uh, plug your stuff, I mean, uh, you can follow [1:29:05] Maurice over at X at, and by the way, what is this? [1:29:10] La, La Native Patriot. [1:29:12] Yeah, I'm a quarter French. [1:29:14] I couldn't put, so with the amount of characters, I couldn't put the, so I put La Native Patriot. [1:29:20] Okay. [1:29:21] Okay. [1:29:21] It makes sense. [1:29:22] I was, I was like, wait, did he used to live in LA or something? [1:29:25] What's, what's going on here? [1:29:26] Okay. [1:29:26] But you can follow him on X at La Native Patriot. [1:29:30] Of course, his website, thepatriotsprayer.com. [1:29:34] That is this network of podcasts. [1:29:36] There's a whole bunch of them. [1:29:38] And you can, let's see, if we go to shows or hosts, maybe hosts. [1:29:42] Let's see who's all here. [1:29:43] Eddie Smith, Lynn Scott, you, a bunch of other people. [1:29:48] This is great. [1:29:49] So how often do you guys do shows on there? [1:29:52] Is it like there's a show every day or? [1:29:55] Yeah. [1:29:56] Well, there used to be a little bit more with my transitioning of jobs. [1:30:01] It's slowed down a little bit, but I do plan. [1:30:03] I mean, obviously we're going to get back to it. It's, it's slow season during politics. [1:30:07] So it's not like I'm dying to get back into it, but, uh, yeah, yeah, it'll, it'll start kicking [1:30:12] up again. Usually Eddie and I do a podcast every about twice a week or so. Nice. Nice. That's [1:30:19] awesome. And then, and then, yeah, some, some other podcasters will do it every day for every [1:30:23] couple of days. It just depends. That's awesome. Yeah. It is the, uh, it is the slow season for [1:30:27] podcasts. Anyway, the summertime people are out, they're living their life. They're at the beach, [1:30:31] They're getting some sun. They're not sitting at home, you know, smashing the play button on YouTube. [1:30:38] And, of course, you are a board member of SaveOurNativeSouls.org. [1:30:43] So if anybody, yeah, I guess if there are any other Native Americans watching the show that I'm unaware of, go hit these guys up. [1:30:50] It sounds like a good deal, you know, fighting to preserve your history, your heritage. [1:30:55] and that's an ad-battle thing. [1:30:57] I will say that this is important [1:30:59] for white people as well because [1:31:00] when they replace the Native Americans, you know [1:31:03] who's going to take that spot? It's going to be Islam. [1:31:05] It's going to be Muslims. [1:31:07] That's what's actually been happening [1:31:09] is like you can see in Minnesota, they replaced [1:31:11] the state flag with a Muslim flag [1:31:13] or the Somali, [1:31:15] whatever it is. [1:31:17] There's a lot of Muslims [1:31:19] taking out Native Americans. [1:31:22] A lot of the imagery is being [1:31:23] completely erased and it's being [1:31:25] replaced by Islam. It's not good. So, yeah, so it's important. It's important to recognize, [1:31:33] you know, Native Americans did help build this country. Granted, it's not like they were the [1:31:38] sole, you know, people always get upset at me for saying something like that. I'm like, yeah, [1:31:43] you know, point to a war where there wasn't Native Americans fighting alongside the white man. [1:31:47] You can't do it. All right, then we help build it. You're welcome. [1:31:50] no that's great but yeah it's better than islam i'll tell you that amen amen absolutely pass the [1:31:57] ammunition brother i mean come on but uh but yeah well thank you so much for being generous with [1:32:02] your time we'll definitely have you back on i'm gonna do some ad reads we won't make you sit [1:32:07] through that but uh but thank you very much and everybody make sure you go follow him your takes [1:32:11] on twitter are great too so thank you for having me on i really appreciate it god bless you guys [1:32:16] Take care. All right. Sweet. That was great. Love it. Love it. And so, yeah, we do have to [1:32:24] get educated. We do have to learn about history and some of the hard history that [1:32:29] Maurice and I were talking about. You can start diving in, dipping your tippy toes [1:32:35] into some of the stuff at Antelope Hill Publishing. 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[1:35:04] You know, we're both friends with Alex over at ODGG Supply, [1:35:06] and they have everything that you need to be prepared for whatever the heck is coming. [1:35:11] And like Maurice was saying, there is something coming, some sort of emergency, some sort of crisis that we are being pushed towards, whether that's a false flag, whether that's another COVID, whether it's, you know, something else that's going to be coming at us. [1:35:29] There will be another crisis. [1:35:30] There will be another crisis. [1:35:32] It is coming around the corner. [1:35:33] We don't know when. [1:35:34] We don't know how. [1:35:35] But you do need to be prepared. [1:35:37] This is like the old Boy Scout motto, right? [1:35:38] You know, be prepared. [1:35:39] And so you can get prepared at odggsupply.com. [1:35:44] They've got everything you need to hit the gun range, [1:35:48] to be self-sufficient out there in like a tent, [1:35:52] you know, water bottles, canteens, [1:35:55] magazine holsters, backpacks. [1:35:59] They've got it all. [1:36:00] So visit odggsupply.com and use promo code Backlash14. [1:36:06] You'll get 14% off your order. [1:36:08] and yeah, these guys are great too. [1:36:10] These Philby assault packs. [1:36:13] Love them. [1:36:13] This is my everyday carry, you know. [1:36:17] You got a little area. [1:36:18] You can keep some books in here [1:36:21] and maybe we'll talk about this book in just a second [1:36:24] but you know, you can keep your books, [1:36:26] keep your guns, [1:36:28] you know, it all fits right in there. [1:36:32] So definitely please visit ODGG Supply [1:36:36] and that does remind me, [1:36:38] That does remind me. [1:36:39] There is a new book out, everybody. [1:36:40] A couple. [1:36:42] You need to go buy books. [1:36:43] Number one, actually, is The Nuremberg System. [1:36:49] I just ordered my copy over the weekend, and it should be arriving soon. [1:36:53] But we had a guest on the show a couple weeks ago, Thomas Sear. [1:36:58] And he wrote this book, The Nuremberg System, [1:37:01] The Conceptual Basis of World Order from 1933 to Present. [1:37:06] I'm actually gonna give you guys a link here in the chat. [1:37:13] If you are in the live chat, use my link. [1:37:19] I will get like a, what does it say? [1:37:21] Four and a half percent commission. [1:37:23] So if you are planning on buying a copy of the Nuremberg system, [1:37:28] let me put a little thing in here. [1:37:34] The Nuremberg system. [1:37:36] fantastic book. I'm sure I haven't read it yet, but I will be working on that as soon as it arrives. [1:37:42] And we will be having Thomas back to talk more about his book, which is fantastic. But also, [1:37:51] there's another book that we got to talk about, and I'm working my way through this one. [1:37:55] Know Thy Enemy, Answering the Jewish Question by Father James Maudsley. Of course, Father Maudsley [1:38:02] is a old friend of the show, and we've had him on several times. We're going to have him back, [1:38:09] but this is the first of a three-part series, if you can see there. Know Thy Enemy is book one. [1:38:19] Their Murderous Lies is book two, and book three will be Know How to Fight. [1:38:26] and so this is going to be invaluable for those of you that are Catholic, that are aware of what's [1:38:33] going on with our history, our culture, with the media, with the banks, with the wars, you know, [1:38:40] we've got to keep an eye on it. So check that book out as well. Know Thy Enemy. I believe it's up on [1:38:47] Amazon. I could be wrong. So there's all of that. We've also got a shout out Idaho Tallow Company. [1:38:59] Use promo code for life. You'll get 10% off. I'm not belaboring the point. Use the soap, [1:39:04] idiot. Buy the soap, smear the soap on you, put it in your hair. I mean, I think my hair looks [1:39:11] pretty good. I mean, I need a haircut, obviously. I need a haircut, but the pomade holds it all [1:39:18] together, you know? And yeah. I will belabor the point a little bit more, though, with Atlas [1:39:25] Bullion. We have been seeing the bond market blowing up. It's not good. Things are getting [1:39:32] crazy. I'm not going to say that the end of the financial system is happening in two weeks. We [1:39:37] don't know that. Nobody knows that. But all of the pieces of the puzzle are falling into place. [1:39:45] And we can see very clearly how the United States dollar backed by U.S. Treasuries is losing its [1:39:52] place of primacy, not only in the world, but like who at this point in their right mind is buying [1:39:58] a 30-year debt instrument from the United States government. Do you believe if you were to, [1:40:04] if you had a billion dollars, would you loan that to the federal government for 3% interest [1:40:12] for 30 years? Or are you going to go buy Bitcoin or gold and silver? Right? It's not, it's not [1:40:22] going to, it's not going to work. And so, uh, there is a lot going on with that. We're going [1:40:27] to probably do a special economics issue or episode coming up here. Um, but it is not looking good. [1:40:33] I hope you've been buying the dip [1:40:36] if you had [1:40:38] been listening to this show [1:40:40] if you have been [1:40:41] then you could have been [1:40:43] signed up to stack precious metals [1:40:45] automatically [1:40:46] they have gold and silver subscriptions [1:40:48] at Atlas Bullion [1:40:49] that allow you to buy [1:40:51] as low as $55 a month [1:40:53] just automatically stacking gold and silver [1:40:56] making your own pile [1:40:58] and it's real metal [1:40:59] you can hold it in your hands [1:41:01] it's not just some digital token [1:41:03] It's not, you know, uh, in some vault in your IRA. It's not like an ETF. It's real gold and [1:41:12] silver that you can use, uh, in the event of a crisis. You could actually go like I have right [1:41:18] here. Look at these. I was showing a friend I was cleaning around the house. Uh, and I found these [1:41:24] always check, always check your, uh, can I get it to focus? Yeah, there you go. Look at that. [1:41:30] That's a little, that's a dime. That's a 1964 dime. Found it in the change dish. And listen, [1:41:40] it's, it sounds different. I don't know if you can, it's not really making the sound. [1:41:50] Yeah. Anyway, it's not making the right sound, but do you know how much these are worth? So this [1:41:57] is a dime. It's a 1964 dime. That's worth $5. $5 now. One dime. It's incredible. You know, [1:42:09] obviously a quarter, that would be worth about $12.50 right now if you had a pre-1964 quarter. [1:42:18] So that shows you that saving in precious metals works when it comes to preserving your wealth. [1:42:26] You know, buying gold or buying silver, it's not going to make you rich. [1:42:31] You're not going to get rich by buying gold and silver, but it will help prevent you from becoming poor. [1:42:41] If you have a quarter of a million dollars in the bank earning 3% to 4% interest per year, in 25 years, that quarter of a million dollars is going to be like $50,000. [1:43:01] dollars. Is that making sense? I don't know if I'm explaining it that way, but if you are saving [1:43:08] your dollars to give to the next generation and you are keeping it in dollars at the bank, [1:43:15] it will be worth less and less. It will not stretch as far. You will not be able to buy [1:43:20] as nice things. You know, in, in 20 years, uh, $10 might buy you, um, a half a dozen eggs. [1:43:29] God knows. God knows. We don't really know. I'm also not giving financial advice. [1:43:35] And my wife is texting me. It's true. I'm going to be late. I'm going to be late. I have a very [1:43:41] important date at the Kootenai County Fairgrounds. So if you are watching this show, you can come [1:43:48] with me and you'll see a world of pure imagination. Fuck. I'm awful. This sucks. I'm terrible. [1:43:57] but where is it? [1:43:59] Why isn't it [1:44:00] why isn't it popping up [1:44:03] on my [1:44:04] what the [1:44:06] is it delete? There it is. Okay, yeah. [1:44:09] So anyway, I was supposed to be there at 6 o'clock [1:44:11] Oops, 6.50 [1:44:13] but I will be headed over [1:44:15] to the Kootenai County Fairgrounds right now [1:44:17] to the booth with the KCRCC [1:44:19] We've got to help tell people [1:44:21] about Proposition 1 [1:44:22] It's evil. It's bad [1:44:25] We've got to stop Prop 1. [1:44:28] We've got to stop Prop 1. [1:44:30] Can we get this? [1:44:32] Can we meme this? [1:44:33] Somebody's going to put something else horrible there, I'm sure. [1:44:37] But I'm going to go over to the fairgrounds, do a little evangelizing. [1:44:42] So if anybody is in the area, the immediate area, come on down to the fair. [1:44:47] We'll say hi. [1:44:47] I'll be over at the KCRCC booth. [1:44:49] And for those of you that were seeing what we were doing over the weekend, of course, that is these bonfires, which have been absolutely fantastic. [1:45:03] You can meet your mutuals at the North Idaho Monthly Bonfire. [1:45:08] If you're interested in showing up and meeting your neighbors, DM me. [1:45:12] Shoot me a DM. [1:45:13] Shoot me an email. [1:45:13] Info at thebacklash.net. [1:45:15] That's all I've got for you tonight. [1:45:17] We will be back on Wednesday. [1:45:19] with Brother Andre Marie, [1:45:22] and then we will be taking a week off. [1:45:24] So we'll be back very soon. [1:45:27] But yeah, Brother Andre Marie this Wednesday, [1:45:30] same time, same place. [1:45:32] God bless you. [1:45:33] Bye-bye. [1:45:49] Thank you. [1:46:19] Thank you. [1:46:49] Thank you. [1:47:19] Thank you. [1:47:49] you

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