Interview · September 4, 2026

Episode 167 — Gold & Silver Labor Day Sale + Book Giveaway Winner Announced!

Show notes

The value of the dollar continues to decline—but gold and silver remain real, physical wealth that cannot be printed into oblivion.

In this special episode of The Backlash, Kenzie Riley from Atlas Bullion joins us to announce their special Labor Day precious-metals sale. We’ll discuss the current gold and silver markets, why more Americans are moving their savings into tangible assets, and how you can take advantage of Atlas Bullion’s limited-time Labor Day deals.

We’ll also announce the winner of our book giveaway, who will receive a copy of Action by Jean Ousset!

Support The Backlash while protecting your wealth by visiting our friends at Atlas Bullion:

https://atlasbullion.com/atlas-labor-day-sale/

Smash the like button, subscribe, and share this special episode with someone who needs to start thinking seriously about protecting his financial future.

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[0:00:00] Hello and welcome to The Backlash with a very special Friday episode. I'm your host David J. Reilly. Thank you so much for joining us this evening, this afternoon, wherever you are in the world. [0:00:12] Before we get into it, please make sure that you're following us on all of our platforms and smashing that like button. [0:00:18] We are over on X at Real Backlash. Of course, our website, thebacklash.net. You can support us at subscribestart.com slash thebacklash, patreon.com slash thebacklash. [0:00:29] and of course you can support us on our website thebacklash.net support if you [0:00:36] want to buy stuff off of my amazon wishlist i don't know why you would do that but you could [0:00:41] you could also you know donate some shekels with your card uh but uh anyway uh thank you so much [0:00:49] for joining us we've got a couple of uh housekeeping things i guess uh to deal with [0:00:55] Number one would be we've got this book giveaway that we're doing, Action by John Usse. [0:01:01] We opened up a little giveaway for this on the Wednesday episode. [0:01:07] And several of you guys have signed up, guys and girls, have signed up to win that book. [0:01:13] So we're going to be taking a look at who the big winner is. [0:01:19] And before we do that, though, we do have a very special guest joining us on the line. [0:01:25] And that is Kenzie from our friends at atlasbullion.com. [0:01:30] They're doing a special Labor Day weekend sale. [0:01:32] So I figured we would take the opportunity to chat with Kenzie and see what's going on. [0:01:39] Kenzie, what's going on? [0:01:42] What's going on with the markets? [0:01:48] Oh, no. [0:01:50] What happened? [0:01:52] Oh, man. [0:01:53] No, sorry. [0:01:53] Oh, there we go. [0:01:54] I had to run away from my chicken. [0:01:56] We've been having issues with what you call it. [0:02:01] Yeah, technical, whatever issues with my stupid Starlink. [0:02:06] Elon Musk, of course, is price gouging me. [0:02:10] So anyway, we're there. [0:02:11] We're here. [0:02:12] We can hear you. [0:02:14] We can't see you and that's okay. [0:02:16] But yeah, Kenzie, tell us what's going on. [0:02:18] First of all, what's been going on in the markets from your perspective? [0:02:22] You're obviously a little bit more in touch with gold and silver than I am. [0:02:27] But how have things been looking lately? [0:02:32] Honestly, a little bit better. [0:02:34] And people aren't going to want to hear that. [0:02:36] But sudden drops and sudden rises was, you know, that's not super great for your blood pressure when you're in this industry. [0:02:44] No, no. [0:02:46] It's not good for those those stress levels. [0:02:49] But it is actually kind of nice to see that markets have, I don't want to scare people by saying stagnated, but they've definitely calmed down a bit. [0:02:59] Even when we get big news, I think that people have kind of wised up to some of the news that we might hear on the media that kind of jump scares folks into the markets. [0:03:09] And that's never the time to get in. [0:03:12] I mean, honestly, right now, while consolidation is kind of happening at this, this might be the [0:03:18] better opportunity versus wait for the news to rise and then FOMO, don't FOMO into anything. [0:03:26] Right. Yeah. I've got the, like the six month chart. I guess I'll put up like the one year [0:03:30] chart and you can kind of see, uh, in, this is silver that I'm looking at here. And you know, [0:03:36] there was this obvious, we all kind of went through it, that massive parabolic rise where [0:03:40] It went up 180% in a couple of months. [0:03:45] We're down from all-time highs. [0:03:49] It was at 115. [0:03:50] We're down about 40%. [0:03:52] It's currently, what's the price at? [0:03:56] $66.82 on silver. [0:04:00] Similar thing happened with gold. [0:04:02] We're down only 15% from all-time highs with gold. [0:04:07] But yeah, man, that was absolutely insane. [0:04:10] I've never seen anything like that's not supposed like I'm, you know, being into like Bitcoin and all that type of stuff. [0:04:16] You know, seeing those massive parabolic rises, that's like normal, but not in gold and silver at all. [0:04:22] Not in gold and silver. No, no. [0:04:25] Do we have any idea of why that was? [0:04:29] Was that just was that China just hitting the smash by? [0:04:31] well i wouldn't i wouldn't blame that on just china we actually did on on and i'm just a small [0:04:41] dealer compared to what's out there right on that level of things we did have a really hard time [0:04:49] acquiring the metals especially silver when you combine that with what our normal market is [0:04:57] with literally countries, not just China, [0:05:01] but you combine all of these things together [0:05:03] while people are also doing short plays [0:05:05] and different long plays in paper markets, [0:05:10] everything actually got, [0:05:11] that really put us through the ringer. [0:05:15] You know what? [0:05:16] I'm glad that it happened though [0:05:17] because it really showed where some areas [0:05:20] we might could lag in and could do better. [0:05:24] It exposed some of that just for me. [0:05:26] So I'm happy that we went through it. It was effing terrible. I don't know if I can say the F word. It was terrible, but, you know, things things did work out in the end. But no, it was just it was the mix of countries buying people playing paper markets. [0:05:41] and then the everyday person like myself who you know i i just stack on the regular it's if i have [0:05:49] a little bit extra left over each month that little bit extra is going into some metals and [0:05:55] that really made it hard for the average stacker because it did you know i kept buying all the way [0:06:00] up i do dollar cost average i don't really look at the price too hard but i know whenever i'm [0:06:06] buying silver, whether it's for my personal or inventory, my heart started racing a little bit [0:06:12] once we're getting over a hundred, that did not feel great. Yeah, no, I definitely, I paused. I [0:06:18] kind of stopped buying once it hit like 70 or 80 or whatever it was. Um, but at the same time, [0:06:25] I'm still in it. Uh, I'm still in it. And, uh, the, the advice is to, to, to dollar cost average. [0:06:32] anyway. That's my advice. Uh, of course I eat crayons for breakfast. So don't, you know, [0:06:37] this is not financial advice. This is not legal advice or anything like that. Um, but yeah, I mean, [0:06:43] like when I saw, when I saw this area of the market where it was, you know, cresting over [0:06:48] $70 an ounce, I'm like, ah, right. I'm going to kind of pause a little bit. Um, but it has been [0:06:54] right there, like right before the peak too, when you're just waiting on, on all that wholesale [0:07:00] inventory to arrive and it hasn't made it to you because of their delays on a wholesale level. And [0:07:05] then it's just tanking as you have, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars of inventory [0:07:10] on the way. That's a real great feeling. Nice. I bet. But, uh, but yeah, so you've got a, uh, [0:07:17] a little Labor Day sale that, uh, you're kicking off. Tell us about, uh, what the deal is with that. [0:07:25] So most of the items on that, we tried to include something for everyone. [0:07:29] Most of the time, if Atlas is going to have a sale, it's going to be on one or two particular products, right? [0:07:35] And it does not include all four categories of the precious metals. [0:07:39] This time around, I wanted to pick some of the most popular pieces that people buy, whether it's gold, silver, platinum, or palladium. [0:07:47] And yes, we do have palladium in stock at the moment. [0:07:51] There's not a lot, but there is something there for everyone. [0:07:54] if you can find a lower price online from any legitimate dealer, I will do my best to match it. [0:08:02] But I, I kind of doubt that you're going to find a better price anywhere on the web right now. [0:08:09] Yeah. I mean, it's even every now and again, I'll like check Costco too. And it's the premiums at [0:08:15] Costco are, are kind of nuts as well. So now I, I guess what would you be recommending somebody [0:08:23] that like, let's say that they haven't, uh, they haven't really got into this. They haven't started [0:08:27] stacking, uh, but maybe they're, they've been made aware of it because of the, the massive [0:08:33] parabolic rise. Where would you start? Somewhere that I would start would have to either be, [0:08:41] I will say that maples are my favorite thing as far as a coin to stack. So we do have, I believe, [0:08:46] 2026 silver maples on there. We've got the 2026 eagles on there. But if you're brand new into [0:08:54] everything, honestly, those cold silver dollars, believe it or not, I mean, those are not your [0:08:59] pretty pieces, right? But you're buying just strictly for the weight. And most of the time, [0:09:06] I can promise, I'll say about 95% of the time when you're buying a bag of these or you want [0:09:11] to get a couple in hand. We're not selling you slicks. You know, we don't, I don't necessarily [0:09:16] like to put that in there, but cold just means this is not a pretty coin. It's kind of been [0:09:22] around the block a couple of times. She might have a couple of dings and nicks in her, you know, [0:09:26] they're, they're not perfect, but instead of paying that full, you know, normal retail price [0:09:33] for that pretty BU piece or Morgan, or even an AU prices are significantly different. So [0:09:40] So my favorite thing has to be maples. [0:09:44] I'm a big stacker myself of coal, silver dollars. [0:09:48] It's just it makes the most sense if you're just trying to stack purely for weight and something that's a little bit more recognizable out there. [0:09:55] Yeah. [0:09:56] As far as gold goes, people will be really surprised because typically the smaller the gold, the higher the premium. [0:10:03] But you all saw how quickly markets can move. [0:10:06] I've always been a really big kind of fractional gold stacker. [0:10:10] I typically don't stack anything over one tenth ounce of gold. [0:10:14] I'm a big gram stacker myself. [0:10:16] I know that sounds crazy, but I just, I love grams. [0:10:20] It's easy whenever I want to go and sell, you know, talking to us as well, [0:10:26] even when people want to sell us grams, [0:10:28] I guess I should show it in that kind of perspective. [0:10:31] I can give you a higher premium on that than I can the one ounce or greater stuff. [0:10:37] So typically, yeah, you're going to pay a little higher premium, but you actually get the chance to get some of that back if you were to sell back to us. [0:10:45] Nice. [0:10:46] Yeah, I was going to say, I'm holding up one of these. [0:10:49] This is a half gram, I think. [0:10:53] Yeah, that one might be half gram. [0:10:55] Yeah, it's a half gram. [0:10:56] And I do have one of these that I got from you way back in the day. [0:11:01] This is one of these Geiger. [0:11:03] It comes in like a little box or whatever. [0:11:05] I don't know if you guys can see it. [0:11:07] But that's a one gram piece of gold, which is pretty cool. [0:11:12] Man, Geiger has been so hard to source lately. [0:11:14] Oh, you want to buy it? [0:11:16] You want to buy it? [0:11:17] I might. [0:11:18] Yeah, I might. [0:11:20] But yeah, I mean, it is interesting, especially like from that like survivalist angle or like [0:11:25] if you're expecting the markets to totally crash in two weeks, you know, the idea that [0:11:30] you've got something kind of small that you could use to barter or whatever. [0:11:34] I think one gram on your website now is at least these Pamp and the Volcombe bars. [0:11:39] Those are like 166 bucks. [0:11:41] It's crazy how tiny that is. [0:11:45] And for it to be worth that much money. [0:11:47] But it just goes to show you the inflation is so bad. [0:11:52] You know, and I've also got one of these. [0:11:55] Check these out. [0:11:55] These are cool. [0:11:56] I don't know if you have any of these for sale. [0:11:57] but this is an old, uh, it's a 1914, uh, Indian head, whatever. [0:12:05] But I think, what did this used to be worth? [0:12:06] This was like, uh, two and a half dollars. [0:12:09] This used to be worth like two and a half dollars. [0:12:12] I think it's worth like 600 bucks now. [0:12:15] Something like that. [0:12:16] Five, 600 bucks. [0:12:17] Yeah. [0:12:18] Depending on condition. [0:12:19] I think that you're somewhere between 600 and if you're not getting super collector, [0:12:23] you know, there are some people out there, 700 plus, but. [0:12:26] Yeah. [0:12:26] um i think that we actually have some in i don't have my laptop next to me but i think that we do [0:12:32] actually have some in stock for pre-33 gold nice yeah i see i'm a big fan of like the um the the [0:12:40] pre-33 gold the pre real money the pre-60 and i've actually found a couple of these i don't know if [0:12:46] i'm gonna these are like super tiny um but this is like a little dime i don't know if it's gonna [0:12:51] focus. Yeah, that's a dime. And I found it just cleaning out a change dish in my car a couple of [0:12:57] weeks ago. And I was like, oh, I'm like, nice. That's a good. It's like five bucks. These dimes [0:13:04] used to be 10 cents. It looks like a dime. Yeah, there you go. I mean, you can kind of see it. [0:13:10] It looks like a dime, but it's actually worth five bucks. And that's just how bad the market [0:13:17] and the inflation has been since we've decoupled from the gold standard. [0:13:22] And what was it? [0:13:23] 1971. [0:13:25] It's unbelievable. [0:13:26] Losing over 98% of its value. [0:13:29] The dollar has. [0:13:30] And you know what? [0:13:30] It can lose another 90% of its value from where it's at right now. [0:13:35] Let's not freak everybody out that bad. [0:13:38] I mean, [0:13:39] I really hope that that day does not happen, [0:13:41] but it's not impossible. [0:13:45] That's great. [0:13:46] You know, that's when we have to start talking about, just look back at what happened in Argentina, Sri Lanka, Venezuela, where in real time. [0:13:56] Oh, yeah, real time. [0:13:58] Sorry, this is just hitting me. [0:14:00] My Walmart finally decided to put all of those digital price tags in. [0:14:04] They're not doing that for our convenience. [0:14:06] It is. It is. They literally put that roadmap out after Venezuela when you have people traveling from home to the grocery store and prices are changing so rapidly that, you know, they're having to actually do math on the spot as far as like at the groceries. [0:14:23] You had people actually using gold in the grocery store, gold shavings. [0:14:27] Wow. [0:14:28] Just to be able to buy food. [0:14:30] That's crazy. [0:14:31] Now, I don't think I don't think that's I don't necessarily think that's in the cards are really hope for our country. [0:14:39] I've been hearing some rumblings that, you know, it's possible that we're going to see some stuff kicking off over in. [0:14:47] Was it England, England, France? [0:14:50] And then there was a third, a third Japan that, you know, if we start to see something kind of happening, it's going to be England, France or Japan. [0:15:01] And not necessarily the U.S. that's going to go kind of nuts. [0:15:06] But for sure, I mean, we've been seeing inflation expectations. [0:15:10] I think there was a big meeting with the Fed Chair Jerome Powell. [0:15:16] He was getting together with Scott Bessent. [0:15:18] Of course, they're trying to figure out how to fix this problem. [0:15:23] Because we're at, what, 140% debt to GDP right now? [0:15:28] Is that right? [0:15:28] Yeah. [0:15:29] Let me actually Google that. [0:15:31] What is U.S. debt to GDP right now? [0:15:37] 125 percent. [0:15:39] That is so not good. [0:15:42] 125 percent debt to GDP ratio, according to Google, AI or whatever. [0:15:49] But there's only so much, you know, plugging the holes that they can do here before the chickens come home to roost. [0:15:57] So I don't think that we're going to I don't think we're going to see like a collapse or anything in like the next little bit. [0:16:02] But I do think it's a good time to start, like I said, dollar cost averaging, just picking up a couple of pieces here and there. [0:16:09] And it's especially for people that have a time horizon of longer than a couple of years. [0:16:15] Like when I'm buying something like this is one of those Canadian maple leaves. [0:16:21] It's a one ounce of silver. [0:16:23] Or, you know, when I'm when I'm buying stuff like this, I'm buying it for my my my grandkids so that I have something to pass along to them, because it's like, yeah, I mean, I don't know what the market's going to do in six months. [0:16:37] I don't know what it's going to do tomorrow. [0:16:38] But in I don't care what it's going to do in six months. [0:16:41] I don't care what it's going to do in six years. [0:16:43] What I know is I have my own insurance policy, but then like you just mentioned, if I can continue to grow that insurance policy, be my own bank, be my own lender, if I can continue to do that until I have kids, hopefully ingrain into them to do the same thing. [0:17:02] And they, I don't know what life looks like for my great grandchildren, right? [0:17:06] Like when that day comes, um, if we just look at where gold and silver is now, that is the [0:17:13] whole point on trying to build something more generational and an economy that's only getting [0:17:17] tougher and tougher for people that are out there. [0:17:20] Yeah, no, it's, it's true. [0:17:22] And so, yeah, looking at, uh, can we get this thing to switch over? [0:17:25] No tech issues today. [0:17:28] What's going on? [0:17:29] Where's my, oh, there it is. [0:17:31] I'm like, where's my pointer? [0:17:33] I can't even find my pointer. [0:17:34] But yeah, it looks like you've got some platinum up as well. [0:17:38] One-tenth ounce platinum. [0:17:40] So that'd be like a dime-sized coin over here for $2.90. [0:17:45] A half ounce platinum. [0:17:47] One ounce palladium. [0:17:49] And so explain what's the, because I've never bought platinum or palladium. [0:17:52] What's the play with those? [0:17:53] What's the thought behind that stuff? [0:17:57] if you actually go and look at how much platinum but definitely palladium exist in the entire [0:18:05] world uh both of these plays here you could fit them in like your standard living room [0:18:12] there's not a lot of it out there then so when people also ask like you know why are [0:18:17] premiums so insane on platinum or palladium it is because it is the most difficult metal to work [0:18:25] with, but it's also the most important metal that we have. So if you're big into nuclear energy or [0:18:31] something like that, you have to have platinum and palladium, this very finite resource that is out [0:18:36] there. It is incredibly small, right? And normally once it's used, it's a very special thing for us [0:18:46] to be able to get it in a coin or a bar because most of it is heavy industrial use. A good bit [0:18:54] It gets used in jewelry, but it's normally not pure. [0:18:57] It's like a mix to harden whatever metal you're using. [0:19:01] They are both very hard metals, also kind of fragile in a different way, but incredibly, incredibly dense. [0:19:10] I do not own enough platinum and palladium myself. [0:19:14] I'll be the first to admit that. [0:19:16] I don't own enough of it. [0:19:17] if we went full Weimar [0:19:20] which I think that [0:19:21] all of us hope that that never happens [0:19:24] in the US but if you go full Weimar [0:19:26] platinum and palladium will flip gold [0:19:28] and be worth more [0:19:30] more than gold is per ounce [0:19:32] if we were to end up in that situation [0:19:34] I was going to say I don't have [0:19:36] oh go ahead [0:19:37] no you go ahead [0:19:40] no no I was going to say well [0:19:41] let me see if I can find plat [0:19:43] plat plat plat [0:19:45] I can spell [0:19:47] uh you'll you didn't hear enough crayons today dave come on no i haven't i'm spelling it correctly [0:19:55] i just don't there it is okay um let me add this to my list i guess uh because let me see it probably [0:20:04] went to the bottom right did it yeah okay let me pull this up uh because usually like you know [0:20:09] platinum is just from a meme perspective, right? Like you have, you know, uh, what is it like [0:20:17] bronze, silver, gold, and platinum, right? Like your Amex platinum card, right? Like that's always [0:20:25] kind of been more, it's been the top metal, like over gold for a very, very long time. [0:20:31] But for some reason, gold is now, yeah, gold is, you know, 4,000, essentially 4,500 an ounce. [0:20:40] But platinum is only 1,800. [0:20:43] So there's kind of a flippening that happened. [0:20:45] And I guess it's the idea that one day platinum is going to right itself and it'll eventually overtake gold again. [0:20:58] Hello. [0:21:01] we've been dealing with internet. [0:21:03] There we go. [0:21:04] I can hear you now. [0:21:05] Go ahead. [0:21:09] My bad, Dave. [0:21:10] Didn't mean to mess up your screen there. [0:21:12] It's okay. [0:21:13] No, I was going to blame Elon Musk on it anyway. [0:21:16] But I guess was the idea that platinum is going to go back to its place above gold [0:21:21] at some point in the future? [0:21:23] Is that the idea? [0:21:24] That is the idea. [0:21:26] But if and when that happens, like unless you are an incredibly knowledgeable person, this is why I myself don't have enough of it. [0:21:35] But I also don't know if I would literally have the time to react to that when that market actually takes place. [0:21:43] It happens so quickly because platinum will come back down when and if that day comes. [0:21:49] And the flippening will just be a very quick blip. [0:21:52] Like if we look at a big timeline, it's going to look like a blip on the map. [0:21:57] But when it decides to explode, it just does insane shit. [0:22:02] And I'm sorry to put it that way, but mathematically, it's insane. [0:22:06] When platinum decides to wake up and you wake up the white metals, it's a scary thing that happens in history. [0:22:14] Yeah, I mean, here, this is the 10-year chart. [0:22:16] And you can see platinum is just hovering around $900,000. [0:22:21] It just stays dazzling. [0:22:21] It's quiet. [0:22:21] boom it just popped up that is at 180 percent gain between 2025 and this year 2026 so yeah i [0:22:34] guess it's the kind of thing you just you buy it you sit on it and then eventually it pops [0:22:39] look at that one dang well what year was that that was that was the 2008 crisis [0:22:46] but uh yeah well anyway um so are you doing anything with the premiums on your sale as [0:22:53] you said something and i don't want to get it wrong but did you say that you're doing half [0:22:58] half premiums because like usually everything there and that's why it has a special page i [0:23:04] cannot trust the way that um so all we're trying to mark off is that premium right can't always [0:23:11] trust the website to do that quite the right way so everything on this page i just went into the [0:23:17] back end and lowered the price basically as much as we can you know i still have to be able to pay [0:23:24] shipping insurance everything else on it so we have lowered everything as much as we can on this list [0:23:32] and i don't i really don't think that there's a another place out there um that's even close to [0:23:40] what we're doing. I mean, I'm not going to name any of the big names, but think about, you know, [0:23:45] the big four or five that are out there that everyone knows it is significantly cheaper than [0:23:50] even the so-called claiming to be the cheapest online or best value. Uh, it's, it's, it's under [0:23:57] them. Yeah, no, it totally makes sense. Well, I just put the link, uh, it's atlasbullion.com [0:24:03] slash atlas-labor-day-sale. [0:24:09] So it's a little bit of a mouthful. [0:24:12] It's in the show description below. [0:24:14] It's in the live chat. [0:24:16] So if you've been thinking about starting to stack a little bit of precious metals, [0:24:21] this weekend could be a great time for you to take that first dip into it. [0:24:27] For sure. [0:24:28] And this will run until Monday evening. [0:24:30] um and i mean i'm kind of hoping that people actually put the the site through the ringer [0:24:36] i've made a couple of updates i've never been able to do a sale this big just due to some of [0:24:43] the lag that we've had but i've been hammering things out for the last four days gave the site [0:24:48] a little bit more horsepower and um i think it's gonna i think it's gonna hold up good i mean maybe [0:24:54] you guys can just take advantage of me and you get the best deal that you've ever had in your life [0:24:59] and I'll just have to eat it. [0:25:01] But that's cool too. [0:25:02] Is that F4 gang? [0:25:04] Just hit the refresh button on the site [0:25:06] over and over again until it breaks. [0:25:08] Right, right. [0:25:09] But all right. [0:25:10] Dave, do people also know about some of the, [0:25:13] you know, you've let me know [0:25:14] about some other things going on in your life [0:25:16] where it might be kind of helpful to, [0:25:19] you know, you're helping yourself [0:25:21] by getting the medals, [0:25:22] but you actually can really help support Dave as well. [0:25:26] I don't know how much the chat knows [0:25:27] about some of the things going on in your personal though. [0:25:30] Oh yeah. [0:25:31] Well, I have not talked that I am getting sued. [0:25:35] And I, uh, I think the chat knows about it. [0:25:37] Your help. [0:25:38] They need all of our help. [0:25:40] Me and Gavin McInnes are getting sued right now, uh, for the episode that we did about [0:25:46] the Southern poverty law center, uh, a couple of months ago. [0:25:49] Uh, but we're gonna, we're gonna keep that a little bit of a mystery for now. [0:25:53] I'm not going to talk too much about it with an ongoing litigation, but it is true. [0:25:59] It would be very helpful if people decided to dump money on me. [0:26:03] I have legal bills that I have to pay, but fuck these people. [0:26:08] You know, pardon my French, but, you know, we do free speech here. [0:26:12] We have opinions here. [0:26:15] And, you know, the lawsuit is a it's a slap lawsuit. [0:26:19] It's a what is it? [0:26:20] a strategic lawsuit against public participation. So basically, you know, I had a guest on the show [0:26:26] that said something, uh, and it's his opinion and they're suing me, uh, over it for platforming [0:26:34] Gavin, which is just absolutely ridiculous. Uh, so anyway, uh, yeah, the legal bills are already [0:26:40] up. Like, I think it's 50, 50 K, um, which is just ridiculous. Uh, so ridiculous, but yeah, [0:26:49] Well, I'll clue people into that a little bit more as it goes along. [0:26:55] But yeah, so when you do, when you make purchases for gold and silver with Atlas Bullion, [0:27:00] I do get a very tiny like 1% or 2% kickback on that. [0:27:05] So I do appreciate that. [0:27:07] And of course, your grandkids, that's the big thing is that your grandkids will appreciate it. [0:27:13] Because I know so many people that, you know, their parents are good boomers [0:27:18] and they kept their money in the bank. [0:27:21] And, you know, the way that the inflation has been going, [0:27:24] especially with the Iran war, but all of this, [0:27:26] it's just if you're saving your money in dollars in the bank, [0:27:29] you are kneecapping yourself. [0:27:33] You're already losing. [0:27:34] Yeah, I mean, interest rates are negative, essentially. [0:27:37] When you compare it to inflation, [0:27:38] if you're getting 3% interest at the bank [0:27:41] by keeping your money in the bank, [0:27:43] but if inflation is 4%, [0:27:45] then the real rate, you're actually losing 1%. [0:27:49] So real rates are negative. [0:27:53] If that makes any level of sense, [0:27:56] I think people are smart enough to figure that out. [0:27:58] But yeah, so if you're saving in dollars, [0:28:02] you're doing it wrong, frankly. [0:28:05] And you should be picking up some of this stuff, [0:28:08] some gold, some silver, put it away, [0:28:12] keep it on hand that way. [0:28:14] I mean, because also, and we've talked about this before, Kenzie, where it's like the government is not about to go door to door shaking people down for their gold and silver. [0:28:25] I mean, what would be more likely is if there was some sort of financial crisis, they would go and raid the IRAs. [0:28:32] They would raid the centralized holders of gold and silver. [0:28:37] They're not – I mean, they can't deport people for God's sakes. [0:28:40] They can't deport illegal aliens. [0:28:43] So what are they going to do? [0:28:43] They're going to deploy the army to go door to door and be like, hey, give me all your gold and silver. [0:28:48] That's just that's just not going to happen. [0:28:51] So I think that it is resources were spread too thin. [0:28:55] And, you know, it's it's not like we're only stacking gold and silver over here. [0:29:00] I mean, we got some zinc plated brass. [0:29:02] Oh, that's good stuff, too. [0:29:04] Yeah. I was going to say a little bit of lead, some freedom seeds for the pew pew. [0:29:09] Freedom seeds. Yeah. [0:29:10] I remember when they were saying that on Facebook, you could get like to platform for, uh, for even mentioning that kind of stuff. [0:29:18] Yeah. Maybe I shouldn't have said that. [0:29:20] Oh, it's fine. I'm on borrowed time. [0:29:22] Gold guns and you should be fine. [0:29:24] God at the, at the top of all of that. And you should be fine. [0:29:28] God, gold and guns. [0:29:30] Uh, all right. Well, thank you so much for joining us. [0:29:34] I won't keep you any longer, but please go check out atlasbullion.com. [0:29:38] the main link is atlasbullion.com [0:29:40] slash backlash but of course if you want to get [0:29:42] access to the [0:29:44] sale their Labor Day sale [0:29:46] you've got to use there's a special link in the show [0:29:48] description below it's in the live chat [0:29:50] so [0:29:51] yeah somebody said hold on who is this Alex [0:29:54] Alex [0:29:57] Tremo del [0:29:58] Norte 1905 [0:30:00] Sue what Jew filed that [0:30:02] lawsuit yeah well [0:30:04] Oh, man, I want to dish all the details because it's just so ridiculous. [0:30:12] But it is a person, the person that is suing me and Gavin McInnes is very well known to those of us in the dissident sphere. [0:30:22] He's been around for a long time. [0:30:25] And a lot of people have said a lot worse things about him than we did. [0:30:28] I didn't even say anything. [0:30:29] I just had Gavin on the show and Gavin said something that he took offense to. [0:30:35] And so anyway, we'll we'll have more details on that as the whole thing progresses. [0:30:40] But anyway, Kenzie, thank you so much for joining us. [0:30:43] We're going to let you go and we're going to go ahead and reveal the winner of the book [0:30:49] action. [0:30:50] But any any closing thoughts, any closing wisdom about gold and silver? [0:30:56] No, y'all just y'all have a safe Labor Day weekend. [0:30:59] everybody enjoy yourselves and um yeah if you if you want to help out dave we've got a pretty nice [0:31:05] sale going so i'll catch you next time very good well thank you so much for joining us that was [0:31:11] great yeah she just texted me like a little bit ago she's like i'm doing a big labor day sale [0:31:16] and i'm like well screw it let's just do a live show i've got to do a book giveaway anyway [0:31:20] and so uh we do have a winner for the book giveaway and i wish i had a drum roll i don't [0:31:27] have a drum roll. I do have like, I have a rim shot. That's, that's about as close as I can get, [0:31:36] uh, to a drum roll over here. Maybe I need to update the, uh, the sound effects list. [0:31:41] Uh, but we, uh, we are giving away a copy of this book action by John Ouse. Uh, you can go [0:31:47] on our website and, and by the way, uh, we are going to be, I don't know how to put it, um, [0:31:55] partnering. It's not really good. It's not really partnering, but on the affiliates page, [0:32:03] you will notice that there is a new affiliate and that is IHS Press. Those guys are really good. [0:32:12] They're awesome. John Sharp, of course, is the publisher of IHS Press. We are currently working [0:32:20] on booking him on the show and not just once. I think he's going to become like a regular guest. [0:32:25] he's been in the scene for a very very long time as a kind of dissident you know catholic that has [0:32:34] been bringing some of this stuff to the forefront keeping books published that otherwise the powers [0:32:41] that be want to see fade away and so the winner of action is going to be our friend Joshua [0:32:52] and so we will let him know in the email. [0:32:58] We got all your emails, [0:32:59] so we will be sending out an email to everybody, [0:33:03] letting them know. [0:33:04] I don't want to dox the guy's last name, [0:33:06] but Joshua, congratulations. [0:33:08] You're the winner of Action, [0:33:10] and we're going to be doing some more of these giveaways [0:33:13] in the future too. [0:33:15] I've got a copy back here of The Culture of Critique. [0:33:18] It's an extra copy, [0:33:19] So we'll be giving that away in a couple of weeks. [0:33:23] But yeah, so that kind of does it. [0:33:26] That takes care of some of the housekeeping. [0:33:29] Of course, there's a bunch of news. [0:33:31] You'll know maybe that the Lindsay Clancy trial was officially declared a mistrial today. [0:33:38] So that's a good thing. [0:33:41] The state is basically going to get a second chance to try this crazy woman for murder. [0:33:47] She strangled her three children, cut her wrists, and then jumped out the window and is claiming insanity or something like that. [0:33:54] I am just defaulting to she's guilty because she's a crazy woman. [0:34:01] And, you know, I don't think that there's any excuse here. [0:34:07] You know, we live in this society. [0:34:09] We've got, you know, abortion that's happening all the time. [0:34:12] People are murdering their children left and right. [0:34:14] and what really is the difference [0:34:17] between abortion and strangling your three-year-old? [0:34:19] Anyway, it's the same thing. [0:34:20] You're still murdering your own child [0:34:22] and so one is legal, one is not [0:34:24] and it's very clear that, [0:34:27] I've even seen people have arguments [0:34:30] about being able to abort children [0:34:33] that are before the age of reason. [0:34:38] You know what I mean? [0:34:39] So let's, ah, I just missed a call from a priest. [0:34:42] Oops. [0:34:42] so anyway uh lindsey clancy trial uh there's a brief update on that um and yeah uh there's a lot [0:34:51] of stuff going on by the way uh labor day weekend this is a huge weekend for us here in idaho [0:34:56] especially north idaho because uh we have something called paul bunion days are you aware [0:35:02] of this if you aren't aware of this and if you live in the area paul bunion days in saint mary's [0:35:09] Idaho, you've got to check it out. If you have the opportunity, if you live in Spokane or just [0:35:15] anywhere, even within like a four hour drive of North Idaho, go check out Paul Bunyan Days. [0:35:21] You can get there at stmaryspaulbunyandays.com. I'll put this in the live chat too. Why not? [0:35:28] But it is, it's like going to white Mecca. It's like going to white Mecca in St. Mary's, Idaho. [0:35:36] They've got, you know, rides for the kids to go on like a little roller coaster, a Ferris wheel. [0:35:41] They've got delicious food vendors. [0:35:46] You know, there's a little you can go for a swim in the St. Joe River while you're down there. [0:35:50] But lots of friendly people. [0:35:53] And it's a town that's just kind of tucked away in the hills. [0:35:57] You know, very white. [0:35:59] Lots of white people doing white people things like climbing telephone poles. [0:36:05] There's like a big contest for who can climb the telephone pole the fastest. [0:36:09] There's a lumberjack competition who can chop down the tree faster. [0:36:13] And so it's always I remember the first time that I went back in like was it 21, 2020 or 2021. [0:36:20] It was like going to the land before time or something. [0:36:24] It's like, what is happening here? [0:36:26] It's like white people in their natural habitat doing white people things. [0:36:30] So it's always a lot of fun. [0:36:32] Uh, so that's the St. Mary's Paul Bunyan days, which is going to be happening, uh, through the [0:36:37] seventh. Today is the first day. Uh, it'll be going on, uh, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Uh, so like I [0:36:44] said, if you're in the area, you can go check that out. Then, uh, there's a lot of other stuff going [0:36:49] on as well. Uh, and, uh, here it is. Uh, the other big event that, uh, I think you guys should be [0:36:57] aware of coming up this month is the Michaelmas festival that is happening in Post Falls, Idaho, [0:37:04] September 19th, 2026. Uh, that will be going on over at, uh, Chase and Bodine roads in Post Falls. [0:37:12] Uh, there's going to be a lot of, uh, European heritage going on, a lot of different booths [0:37:18] representing, you know, France, Germany, England with different kinds of cuisine and, you know, [0:37:24] beer in the German booth. Uh, there will of course be cigars, uh, going around a petting zoo [0:37:31] for kids, traditional music, folk songs, uh, and on and on it goes. Uh, and so that is the [0:37:37] Michaelmas festival, uh, that is going to be happening. Oh, there's a dunk tank too. Maybe, [0:37:43] maybe they'll put me in the dunk tank. I don't know. Uh, but that'll be a lot of fun. Um, [0:37:48] You can get more information, if you like, at michaelmassfestival.protonmail.com. [0:37:57] And I will have more information on that for you. [0:38:01] And, of course, if you want to know, like, precisely where it is, shoot me a DM, shoot me an email, info at thebacklash.net. [0:38:08] And we will make sure that you know where to go to get to this joint. [0:38:13] But that's going to be a lot of fun. [0:38:14] Then the following Saturday, the 26th, we're going to be hosting the North Idaho Bonfire Night. [0:38:21] And so that is always a great time to get together with other people in the area, meet your neighbors, meet other young people and old people that are engaged in building the culture here in North Idaho, that are engaged in building the future. [0:38:37] so if you want to meet some mutuals [0:38:40] meet some people that [0:38:42] you know could help expand your friend circle [0:38:45] again shoot me an email at info at the backlash dot net [0:38:48] we'll get you the directions [0:38:50] the location the time and all of that [0:38:52] that'll be on the 26th of September [0:38:54] and what else [0:38:57] I think that kind of covers it [0:39:00] for the most part [0:39:01] but thank you for tuning in [0:39:03] please make sure that you check out atlasbullion.com [0:39:06] for their big Labor Day weekend medal sale [0:39:11] that's going to be going on through Monday evening. [0:39:14] And otherwise, we will be back on Monday, on Labor Day. [0:39:18] I guess I should have thought about that, [0:39:20] but we'll be back on Monday with Kyle Serafin, [0:39:24] the FBI whistleblower that blew the lid [0:39:27] on the anti-Catholic secret investigation [0:39:31] into traditional Catholics, you know, the Richmond memo. [0:39:35] And of course, this has blown up and become a huge deal, a big scandal nationwide as people are realizing that the FBI has been weaponized against Christians. [0:39:46] So we'll be talking with Kyle on Monday. [0:39:50] And then on Wednesday, we will be chatting with the one and only Father James Maudsley about his brand new book, Know Thy Enemy, answering the Jewish question. [0:40:00] This is the first of a three-part series that he has written. [0:40:05] Uh, and so we will be getting to the bottom of that. We will be discussing all of that and a lot [0:40:12] more. Uh, and so, yeah. And then, uh, I guess we may as well go down the list again, just to, [0:40:17] to give people a taste. We've got a lot of really, really solid interviews coming up, uh, on the, [0:40:24] uh, let's see here on, Ooh, well, first of all, on Labor Day on this coming Monday, [0:40:30] I'm going to be going on Austin Lostro's show. [0:40:35] Do you guys know this guy? [0:40:37] Austin Lostro. [0:40:38] Let me pull him up. [0:40:40] Austin Lostro. [0:40:44] He's got a podcast. [0:40:46] He broadcasts live at Monday through Friday at 9 a.m. [0:40:51] So I will be going on his show on Monday morning. [0:40:57] He's, of course, very energetic. [0:41:00] And so we'll be doing that. Then we'll be doing Kyle, Father Maudsley on Wednesday. And then we've got another interview with the Right Wing Coalition on Friday evening. I'll be on their show on Friday. [0:41:18] Then on Monday the 14th, Dale Alquist, the president and head of the G.K. Chesterton Society. [0:41:26] We will be talking with him. [0:41:28] And then on Wednesday the 16th, we'll be talking with Pastor Chuck Baldwin from Liberty Fellowship out there in Kalispell, Montana. [0:41:38] And then on the 23rd, we're going to be talking with Denise Dijon. [0:41:45] She is a healthcare professional, and we will be talking about Goyslop. [0:41:50] We'll be talking about what's going on with people's health [0:41:53] and how the medical system is just totally rigged [0:41:57] to make a permanent group of people that are addicted to pharmaceuticals [0:42:02] and what it is that we can all do in our lives individually [0:42:05] to kind of steer clear of the hospital system and to eat healthy [0:42:09] and to do things that are actually good for ourselves. [0:42:13] And then on the 28th of September, we will be having the one and only Dalton Clodfelter. [0:42:20] He's written a new book recently, and so he'll be coming on to talk about that. [0:42:26] So with that, I think we are going to call it. [0:42:29] I just want to double check the chat. [0:42:33] We've got a bunch of guys that tuned in. [0:42:35] And thank you for tuning in. [0:42:37] It was last minute, but the militia guy was here. [0:42:43] interesting interesting he says uh the militia guy is saying metals is not the solution the [0:42:50] judaics control gold and silver grain-based currency is the solution that's very interesting [0:42:56] of course uh there's been a lot of different ideas grain-based currency i know henry ford [0:43:01] wanted an energy-based currency uh so that would be super interesting um oh bummer dadski asked if [0:43:10] we can have Kenzie go over the subscription models. Um, I think as far as the subscription [0:43:17] models go, I mean, I I've, I've done it once. And so basically like, I know with Atlas bullion or [0:43:22] whatever, it's like when you, when you sign up, uh, for let's go here, uh, let's go here. Yeah. [0:43:29] When you, when you sign up for one of these tiers, right. Um, like let's say the gold [0:43:37] subscription, right? So this little piece right here, that's a, that's a half gram. Uh, and so [0:43:43] a full gram, where did, where was that? I had that over here. So like, this is about $200 worth of [0:43:52] gold, two tiny little pieces, you know, uh, this piece is worth about 160 bucks and this one's [0:44:00] worth about 75 or 80 bucks. So, you know, when you sign up, uh, to do their precious metals [0:44:06] automatic stacking thing. They'll, they'll have different combinations of stuff like this. [0:44:12] If you're on the lower end, of course, if you're on the higher end, like, you know, [0:44:16] let me see, like this guy right here, that's a, that's one of the old St. Gowden's pieces. [0:44:27] And so that's worth like four grand or 4,200 or something like that. You know what I mean? So [0:44:32] But depending on which tier that you sign up for, [0:44:35] that depends on how much they're able to give you. [0:44:39] And of course, it is better to buy bigger usually. [0:44:44] If you're going to buy an ounce of gold in like grams, [0:44:50] you'll wind up spending like an extra thousand dollars [0:44:52] just to have it in the smaller denominations. [0:44:56] So bigger is better actually. [0:45:00] But yeah, I don't know if that kind of answers your question. [0:45:02] Of course, Dadsky, if you want, you can always call Kenzie at Atlas Bullion. [0:45:09] Their website makes it very easy. [0:45:11] You can just click the button and they'll open your phone or Skype or whatever. [0:45:17] And you can send them text messages. [0:45:19] You can send them emails. [0:45:20] They're pretty good at getting back to people, hopefully. [0:45:23] So, yeah, there's that. [0:45:26] The militia guy said that he read John Usai's action years ago. [0:45:30] but after 30 years, my conclusion is that men in WASP America reject Catholic action and they are comfortable being slaves. [0:45:36] Trad clergy failed to preach the duty of laymen in Catholic action. [0:45:40] Yes, and that is a big problem. [0:45:42] And that's what we're going to be talking about with John Sharp. [0:45:44] And he might be coming on the show on the 23rd. [0:45:48] Let me see. [0:45:49] Or 21st. [0:45:50] 21st. [0:45:51] So we're still kind of working that out. [0:45:53] But yeah, the men need to stand up and start doing our own thing. [0:46:00] We shouldn't be asking the priest for permission to do things that would restore the kingship of Christ. [0:46:08] And yeah, let's see, what else here? [0:46:10] Alex El Norte, whatever, says that we need to be diversified across the different fronts of the struggle, [0:46:16] legal, homestead, etc., and ready to do everything that we can to be successful in each one of those. [0:46:21] Absolutely, totally agree. [0:46:23] Well, thank you all for joining us today. [0:46:26] No doomerism. [0:46:28] No more doomerism. [0:46:29] We're going to build. [0:46:30] We're going to build things that are going to be around for our kids and our grandkids. [0:46:33] So anyway, make sure that you tune in this Monday. [0:46:35] Kyle Serafin will be on the show 2 p.m. Eastern time. [0:46:39] Sorry, 5 p.m. Eastern, 2 p.m. Pacific. [0:46:42] And we'll see you then. [0:46:43] So thank you and God bless. [0:46:44] Have a wonderful Labor Day weekend. [0:46:46] I hope you spend it with your kids and your family and have a great time. [0:46:50] Bye-bye. [0:46:53] Thank you. [0:47:23] Thank you. [0:47:53] Thank you. [0:48:23] Thank you. [0:48:53] We'll see you next time. [0:49:23] Thank you.

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