Episode 175 — KING OR CHAOS: A Blueprint for the Post-Democratic West W/ Dalton Clodfelter

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[0:05:24] And so, without any further ado, [0:05:26] speaking of the kingship of Christ and Catholic social teaching, [0:05:29] Our guest today just wrote a brand new book. [0:05:33] It's available on Amazon. [0:05:34] It's called King or Chaos. [0:05:36] We've got the one and only Dalton Cloudfilter. [0:05:40] How are you doing, buddy? [0:05:41] Wow. [0:05:42] It's such a great opportunity to be here with you, David. [0:05:45] Well, thank you. [0:05:46] You are a legend to me, certainly. [0:05:53] Dude, it's crazy. [0:05:55] It's been a while. [0:05:56] You should be king. [0:05:56] We should make you the monarch of the country. [0:05:59] And I'm sure everything would be fixed. [0:06:01] I promise. [0:06:03] Well, you know, we would, uh, we would get some, we would get some work done. [0:06:07] I just, you know, rub my hands a little bit. [0:06:09] Uh, I don't know, man. [0:06:10] Like, I just feel like, you know, governor of Idaho would be nice. [0:06:15] You know, I would settle for governor of Idaho. [0:06:18] Uh, but Hey, I mean, you know, if, uh, you know, unlike George Washington, if somebody [0:06:22] offered me to be King, I'd probably say, yeah, actually I would do it. [0:06:26] Well, you know, it's funny you say that. George Washington, so in my book, I actually have to make this correction to people. I claim that George Washington was offered the opportunity to be king, but in reality, he was offered an opportunity to serve a life term. [0:06:46] At the time, this essentially is the role of a sovereign executive monarch, right? Because of the limitations that have been placed on the presidency over the course of many years have altered its relevancy and true power within our political structure. [0:07:05] But George Washington only declined this. This is like, you know, because of his address that he gave when he was resigning, you know, for lack of a better term, or not seeking reelection or what have you. He sort of impresses the importance of, you know, we need to express to the people that we're trustworthy, that we believe in this system, etc., etc. [0:07:27] In his private diaries and in his notes, however, he was more so just done with public service. [0:07:36] It was 20 years of fighting a revolution and establishing a new country and dealing with very passionate people of different opinions. [0:07:52] And he was just sort of done. [0:07:53] He was 60 something odd years old and he decided to let the reins be passed on to someone else. [0:08:01] But really, I think George Washington, even even as is particularly towards the end of his relevancy, you know, public front facing, you know, authority. [0:08:12] He was leaning towards the Hamiltonian federalist agenda because he perceived the Jeffersonians to be very anti-American and trying to undermine the system that they had created together. [0:08:28] And I just find that to be a remarkable note because Washington knew, and all of these guys knew, that the system would inevitably become something perverted. [0:08:39] and they said this in you know countless different ways saying that we needed to [0:08:45] potentially fight a revolution every 20 years to ensure liberty uh is is uh you know remains [0:08:53] and and like we like are we doing that have we done that no question no we have not and you know [0:09:02] it's funny you know when you do go back and you you read some of the federalist papers when you [0:09:06] when you read some of the stuff that our founding fathers wrote, [0:09:10] it's all kind of like laid out. [0:09:13] Like they knew what would happen. [0:09:14] You know, who was it? [0:09:15] Was it John Adams that said that the Constitution is wholly inadequate [0:09:20] for people that aren't moral or religious, right? [0:09:24] You know, you've got that one quote about this idea [0:09:28] that they would have to fight a revolution every 20 years or so. [0:09:32] And it's, you know, look at what's going on. [0:09:36] And so, like, I think that's one of the central parts of your book. [0:09:39] You know, a lot of people, I think, are looking around at the system today. [0:09:43] They're looking at what's going on, the Epstein class. [0:09:46] They're looking at the corruption. [0:09:48] You know, this Trump presidency is, I think, hands down, I don't think anybody can really argue, [0:09:54] it is the most overtly corrupt administration in American history. [0:09:59] um people have this idea or opinion that oh well you know democracy isn't isn't working anymore [0:10:10] like you know we kind of went off the tracks but uh yeah are we actually just seeing the system [0:10:15] functioning right yes yeah this is this is normal behavior actually this is this is what normal [0:10:22] looks like in a liberal post-enlightenment society that people are acting exactly how [0:10:29] you should expect them to act. This is not, this should not be surprising. And, you know, [0:10:35] you look at a great example of this that I recently noted, because I was curious, the last [0:10:40] time I heard of the, of any, you know, congressional approval rating, you know, as it is in its [0:10:47] entirety, the institutional approval rating, you know, I remember hearing 6% when I started getting [0:10:54] into politics and, you know, became interested as a young teenager. And, you know, what conclusions [0:11:00] actually do you derive at when you hear, okay, Congress has a 5% to 10% approval rating, [0:11:09] but they have a 98% re-election rate. And, you know, 95% of the races that are won, [0:11:18] give or take, between the House and the Senate are won based on who spends the most money. [0:11:23] You know, do you feel represented? Do you feel that the system is is, you know, adequately representing the constituency that it claims to be representing? [0:11:33] Everyone can acknowledge these truths. People know that the system is broken. [0:11:37] People people understand that they that they that the politicians lie to them. [0:11:42] If you ask any American who has the greatest system of governance in the world, they would say, well, it's America. [0:11:47] It's the founding documents. It's the Constitution. It's the Bill of Rights. [0:11:51] And usually what they're talking about, right, is what you view as the founding of the country, not what it is today. They're simply looking at the documents as they were written during that time. [0:12:04] And, you know, now it's totally different. It's been changed with amendments, with, you know, just simple bureaucratic overreach, with a lack of policing, the government itself not policing itself properly, or taking into a complete disregard for the established order. [0:12:27] these things happen. And then if you ask, well, do you trust the politicians? Do you trust the [0:12:34] bureaucracy? Do you trust the expert class, the academics, the people running the social media [0:12:39] platforms, the people in tech? They all say no, but all of these people are the ones that are [0:12:44] actually in control. Dr. Fauci was the one who made the decisions, and Dr. Fauci is the one [0:12:52] who they put in charge of, you know, virology in this country. But Dr. Fauci is incentivized to [0:12:58] create a pathogen that kills 20 million people to ensure that his lab stays open. And these are the [0:13:06] people that are unelected, and they run our society. They tell us what we should do. They [0:13:12] tell the government how to invest its money. They tell the government how to act if something does [0:13:17] occur within their realm of expertise. So, you know, you people need to realize that not only [0:13:24] is our government being ran by corruption through through money lobbying, super PACs, [0:13:30] you know, and so on. I think most people understand that they also need to understand [0:13:34] that it's a little bit more baked in the cake. It's a little bit more tangible than than just [0:13:42] money. It is an expert class of people that can be named. They have names. They have credentials. [0:13:47] and they have institutions that create more of them, [0:13:51] which would be the academic institutions. [0:13:54] So it's very unfortunate that a, you know, [0:14:00] would you consider yourself a right-winger? [0:14:03] I would assume so, just like for, generally speaking, a right-winger. [0:14:08] Yeah, and it's, you know, there's a lot of debate anymore about that. [0:14:12] Like, you know, my buddy John Sharp, [0:14:14] who we just had on the show a couple days ago, [0:14:17] a couple weeks ago, I can't remember. [0:14:18] You know, he views it as like, [0:14:20] oh, we're above, we're outside the right-left paradigm. [0:14:23] And to a certain extent, yeah, I agree with that. [0:14:27] But yeah, I would be a right-winger. [0:14:30] Yeah, because we have to like think about [0:14:32] these things historically. [0:14:34] And there is a left and a right really in America. [0:14:38] That's my belief. [0:14:39] Yeah. [0:14:40] So I'm with you. [0:14:41] I do understand where they're coming from. [0:14:43] I think the issues are sort of derived from something that is a little bit larger, a little bit grander than just like the DSA or the Republican Party. [0:14:55] It's something very expansive that encompasses all of these groups together, and they are the ultimate enemy. [0:15:00] But I do consider myself someone who believes in order, who believes in hierarchy, who believes in authority, who adheres to a particular set of rules and behaviors. [0:15:16] And these things are usually defined by my faith and Catholic natural law and so on and so forth. [0:15:26] So, you know, when you say, what is a right winger? Well, it's someone who who who believes in authority, hierarchy, order and and these sorts of these sorts of ideas. [0:15:35] These people, these right wingers, and this is why it's unfortunate. People need to really hammer. You need to hammer this home with everyone. [0:15:42] These people are not going to ever revolt. These people are never going to fight against their government. [0:15:48] these people are never going to take up arms as much as so many republicans or right-wingers [0:15:53] believe that it's boogaloo time that we need to fight back against this tyrannical regime [0:15:59] well it hasn't happened and it won't happen and the longer the time goes on there's less of a [0:16:06] chance of it happening people have only become more docile since 2001 when you could argue that [0:16:12] the surveillance state was unacceptably large and that people's privacy was truly being violated. [0:16:20] And now that's only expanded. So this idea of revolt, this idea of changing the system with [0:16:26] pitchforks and the common folk rising up is just out of question. And it always has been out of [0:16:34] question for right-wingers because the right wing is fundamentally different than the left. [0:16:40] Every single revolution throughout history was fought on behalf of liberal idealism, not conservative right wing, you know, order. [0:16:50] Right. [0:16:50] Right. [0:16:51] Anyone revolting against King George was a liberal. [0:16:55] Yes. [0:16:56] That's I mean, you really have to look at it that way. [0:16:58] And the question then becomes, well, okay, how do you establish order and hierarchy and reestablish moral virtues within this seemingly constantly devolving, constantly eroding establishment? [0:17:16] establishment. And that's when you need to, as the greatest sin that the Republicans, that the [0:17:26] con inc people ever did to people in my generation was telling them not to go to school. It was [0:17:32] telling them not to seek higher education. And it was so devastating for me when I came to this [0:17:38] conclusion many years ago. I remember calling my dad and having a conversation about it. They [0:17:42] always encouraged me to go to school, but I was listening to people and God rest his soul, [0:17:47] but it's true. I was listening to people like Charlie Kirk. I was listening to people that [0:17:51] said you didn't need to go to, to high, it's a seek out higher education. What they're, [0:17:56] what they're, what they're not telling young men is it's not about the accreditation. It's not [0:18:00] about the paper that you get at the end of your, your, at the end of graduation. It is about the [0:18:06] network that you're able to build within these institutions, these people that are running the [0:18:11] country, these people that you want to fight against, these people that you believe need to [0:18:17] be essentially removed from power. I mean, these people are going to Yale and they're meeting their [0:18:22] friends and those friends help them secure later positions down the line. This is our vice president [0:18:27] is the vice president because he met Peter Thiel at Yale. And that's, I mean, that's really how the [0:18:35] system is gamed. So we need to be encouraging that. Yeah, no, I was going to ask, you know, [0:18:39] a couple uh uh color color questions i don't know uh how old are you i'm 26 26 god i feel old now i [0:18:50] feel old it's crazy how old are you uh 37 uh i'm 37 yeah i know i'm on uh you know it was kind of [0:18:58] weird we um a couple months ago vince james actually just he just turned uh 40 and so we [0:19:04] a little birthday party for him and we're just all sitting there and it's like, oh my God, [0:19:08] we're old. We're all like so old. No, but, um, but yeah, I mean, there's definitely something, [0:19:15] something going on with the younger people. And that's one of the reasons why I wanted to have [0:19:19] you on. Um, you know, it is, it is important. Uh, and speaking of younger people, I don't know [0:19:25] if you can hear my, uh, my son in the background throwing a fit. It's time to go, uh, run some [0:19:30] errands and I don't think he wants to leave. Anyway, but it is important that we're kind of [0:19:35] keeping an eye on the young people, where they're at, how they're feeling. You know, unfortunately, [0:19:41] it's mostly boomers that are in control. They've got the power. I think over 50% of all of the [0:19:48] wealth in America is currently controlled by the boomers. But fundamentally, it isn't their [0:19:56] country. It's not for them. It's for the ones that are coming up behind them. It's for the [0:20:02] younger people, you know, uh, and we are kind of at this inflection point, um, of history that [0:20:08] where it almost seems like there's like a 500 year turning that's happening right now. This kind of, [0:20:14] um, these different elements that are coming together, uh, not only religious, uh, ideas, [0:20:22] people are, you know, coming back to religiosity. They're coming to the Catholic church. People are [0:20:29] becoming illiberal, but then there's also these factors such as AI and the industrial revolution [0:20:35] and de-industrialization that are all kind of coming home to roost at the same time. And I think, [0:20:42] I think that it is a really wild inflection point. Now, but you see, this is, this is the [0:20:47] rejection that both sides, like the left and the right, you know, used to, I guess you could [0:20:53] perceive the left as being, you know, anti-government in a way, you know, very anti-establishment. [0:21:00] It was like that for a very long time. Now you see, you know, with these younger, the younger [0:21:06] generation on both sides is basically saying, no, we want big government. We want authority. [0:21:12] This liberal democracy stuff is not working. It's coming from all sides. [0:21:15] the tech right understands this in their own way. [0:21:19] And, you know, I understand it in my own way, [0:21:23] as I'm sure you do. [0:21:24] And the left, the DSA, they also understand it. [0:21:28] And one of these groups is going to come out victorious [0:21:31] in this sort of, this game of power. [0:21:35] And to obtain power, to secure power, [0:21:38] you need to be playing a game of conquering, [0:21:42] not of survival. [0:21:43] And it seems that the right for many decades has solely been playing the game based on its survivability, backpedaling on issues that they once seemingly held near and dear, and being the party of wanting to be left alone, which really doesn't make any sense. [0:22:03] If one if the other half of the country is not leaving you alone and will not leave you alone and does not want to leave you alone, then why exactly should you want to leave them alone? [0:22:13] Why should you give them that that that courtesy? [0:22:16] I mean, these people should be punished and they should have. [0:22:20] I mean, we have to handle that. [0:22:22] So like this is this is sort of the dichotomy. [0:22:26] There is an ultimate enemy, right, that that sort of is overlooking the left and the right and understands that there are benefits between people being, you know, solely voting down the ballot Republican. [0:22:39] And then there's people that will be diehard liberal Democrats, whatever that means anymore. [0:22:45] But and they're not playing the party game, but the party game does exist. [0:22:49] And and I think that people need to really operate within their lanes. [0:22:54] if you're not in tech, then you really need to be battling what you can, which would really be, [0:23:04] unless you're someone of an elite class, or maybe you've worked in the academia world, [0:23:12] or you've gone through the tech apparatus and you've made yourself known, you need to be handling [0:23:17] things on a local level. You need to be worried about what's happening on the day-to-day within [0:23:22] your life, what you can control and what your family, you know, what's impacting your family [0:23:26] directly. Oh, I love to hear you say that. That's a, that's a beat that I've been on for a while. [0:23:32] You know, it's like, you know, if I've said it once, I've said it a hundred times on this show, [0:23:35] if you're spending 80% of your time, you know, I guess of your time thinking about politics, [0:23:41] you're spending 80% of that, you know, complaining about Israel, the Jews, the war in Iran or [0:23:48] something like this. Uh, and then you don't know who your city counselors are. You don't know who [0:23:53] your mayor is. You don't know what precinct you live in. You don't know who your state representatives [0:23:58] are, you know, like what are you even doing at that point? You know, you're playing with dolls. [0:24:05] You are, uh, people, and it's a distraction. It's, it is giving people the ability that they think [0:24:11] that they're doing something. I listened to these Twitter spaces or these conversations taking place [0:24:16] And they all, you know, they all seemingly have the answer. They all know what needs to be done. They all can identify these problems and these big ideas and their conspiracy theories about whatever. I don't care if people want to have conspiracy. I really don't. But if you want to have conspiracy theories, I mean, you know, it's like anything else. Moderation, please. [0:24:35] And it's also, you know, moderation needs to be considered when you're discussing these big political ideas or, you know, this political idealism that's circulating. [0:24:45] I mean, you need to sort of realize that these things are out of your hands and what you can do is done locally. [0:24:53] It's done within your family and your community. [0:24:56] Yes. [0:24:56] And not only that, but by distracting yourself, it's not just to keep you docile. [0:25:02] It is to give you the feeling of doing something. [0:25:06] If you ask anyone who spends all day on a Twitter space what exactly they're accomplishing, they say, oh, well, I'm disseminating information to the people that need to hear it. [0:25:14] Well, what are those people really going to do? [0:25:16] Have they ever risen up? [0:25:18] Have they ever? [0:25:18] You know, we certainly many of us can acknowledge that there's clearly there was clearly at the bare minimum a blackmail operation involving teenage girls that that involves many politicians, many people of elite status, you know, within all types of different fields. [0:25:36] But and you would think that would be enough for people to get angry to get right, their pitchforks. [0:25:40] But they don't do that. And they never will do that. [0:25:43] It doesn't matter if Donald Trump himself was was directly involved in child sex trafficking. [0:25:48] These people would rather spend all day talking about it than than trying to fix the problem or telling people what they really need to be doing, which is changing the structure. [0:25:58] Oh, yeah. And by the way, just brief, shameless plug for my own show, which you're tuned into, of course. [0:26:05] This Wednesday, we're going to be having Garrett Ziegler on the show. [0:26:11] Some of you might be aware of him. [0:26:13] He was a Trump staffer. [0:26:15] He worked in the administration the first go around. [0:26:17] He also founded a, it's basically like a PI company, but it's called Marco Polo 501c3. [0:26:28] These are the guys that actually disseminated the contents of the Hunter Biden laptop. [0:26:35] You know, he got a copy of it. [0:26:37] He went through, he made this giant book called the Report on the Biden Laptop. [0:26:41] but he's got like a whole bunch of different open source, uh, tools that can be used to start [0:26:47] digging into like judges and police chiefs, city council people, whatever. Uh, so we're having him [0:26:54] on this Wednesday to talk about that because yeah, it's like, you got a bunch of, you know, [0:26:59] people that are on X and they're, they're talking with chat GPT and they think that they're like [0:27:05] solving the Epstein crisis. They think that they're like doing research into Epstein's crimes. [0:27:11] And it's like, you're, you're just, you're in an AI psychosis. You've been like talking with [0:27:16] Grok too much. Um, and yeah, you know, you're not, you're not doing anything now, just as a brief [0:27:22] diversion, uh, because I, I have a ADD and I'm all over the place, uh, but you said, [0:27:29] you said a couple of keywords, uh, you know, in a certain order. And all of a sudden that got, [0:27:35] that got me triggered to thinking about something that's unfolding today. You know, you talked about [0:27:39] conspiracy theorizing and blackmail. And there is something unfolding in that space. And that would [0:27:47] be this new report from esoteric shaggyism who came through. He just got unbanned on X a couple [0:27:58] of days ago, and he did an incredible deep dive into Candace Owens' background, into her links [0:28:07] and associations and through some of these open source tools found that Candace Owens actually [0:28:14] was running some accounts on some lesbian hookup websites, which is kind of wild. [0:28:24] And not only that, but just like highlighting the very obvious thing. [0:28:30] like for, for those of you that are aware of, you know, we were sister shows in a way. [0:28:37] We have the same sponsor, of course, Idaho Tallow, but the Benny Basil show, I don't know if you guys [0:28:42] know about Benny and Basil, but Basil has this big thing about media market literacy [0:28:48] where you can basically just kind of like look at a show, look at their sponsors, [0:28:52] and you can kind of follow the money. And because I don't watch Candace Owens, [0:28:57] I was completely unaware, but Oracle was a huge sponsor of the Candace Owens show. [0:29:04] And of course, Oracle is owned by Larry Ellison, who is one of the top five most wealthy people in the world. [0:29:11] He's like one of the most influential Jews in the world. [0:29:16] He donated a whole lot of money to Benjamin Netanyahu, got him his, what is it, his lawyer for this big corruption trial that's going on over there in Israel. [0:29:27] And so this guy, Larry Ellison, oh, and by the way, there was also this big merger between Paramount Plus and CBS with Barry Weiss and all these people. [0:29:36] So why is it that Larry Ellison is sponsoring Candace Owens' show? [0:29:42] It's like— [0:29:43] It's always—these things are always very interesting when you start following the money, when you start—or following even just understanding where people are. [0:29:52] I mean, that's like a big part of this, too. [0:29:54] the money is incredibly interesting because it's a very direct transaction, right? It's something [0:30:01] that's easily identifiable. You can say, okay, so this person was given money by this person. [0:30:06] So therefore it's going to be at bare minimum, even if nothing was ever discussed, you know, [0:30:11] behind closed doors, at bare minimum, this is allowing or essentially forcing them into a [0:30:19] position where, okay, that person cannot be critiqued by the person taking the money. [0:30:24] So if someone exists right on YouTube, for example, and, you know, Tim Pool, I don't hate him or [0:30:29] anything, but we, you know, you needn't be honest about someone like Tim Pool or like Glenn Beck, [0:30:35] who I really don't like, but you do need to understand these people are on platforms that [0:30:40] in the past have banned people for speaking out against the established order. And yes, [0:30:47] they've also taken money from people who are within the established order. So how far can [0:30:53] they ever really go? How much honesty can they really give you? You know, how real can they ever [0:30:58] be if they're existing on platforms that at the drop of a hat could ban the speech of anything [0:31:05] they really wanted, whether it was the COVID stuff, you know, that was very notable at one time, [0:31:10] or if it becomes, you know, race stuff at some point or anything. [0:31:15] I mean, you have to play within these guardrails. [0:31:19] I just sort of think, okay, that's like, that just is just untrustworthy. [0:31:24] Like, at the bare minimum, we need to be looking into that. [0:31:27] Oh, yeah, we do need to be looking into that. [0:31:29] And, you know, somebody was critiquing me or criticizing me for posting [0:31:35] or reposting this big report on Candace. [0:31:38] and like, don't you know that, you know, this is, what is it when you actually reveal somebody's [0:31:43] sin? It's detraction, I think, right? Columny is when you're saying something about somebody that [0:31:50] didn't actually happen. When you're saying something that did happen, that's detraction. [0:31:55] But, you know, have we forgotten? Have we forgotten already, you know, Milo Yiannopoulos [0:32:02] out here. So what if Milo had access to this information about Candace Owens and, you know, [0:32:09] maybe he's dangling it over her head and getting her to say certain things that could be detrimental [0:32:14] to her listeners or the movement or whatever it is that, you know, you want to say. And so it is [0:32:21] important, I think, to be aware of all of this stuff, you know. And by the way, also, just, [0:32:26] you know, as far as I'm concerned, Chuck Johnson W. Once again, he was out here like years ago [0:32:32] calling us that, you know, Candace Owens was a rug muncher and that George Farmer was gay [0:32:38] and that the whole thing was just an arranged marriage. And, you know, I think that might be [0:32:43] true. So anyway, definitely go check out this. All of all. Yeah. I mean, Eso Shaggy is fantastic. [0:32:50] One of the greatest researchers on the platform. He has my full endorsement. One of the best things [0:32:55] about information like this coming out is you get a better idea as to how everything works, [0:33:02] not just within the media and the media market, as, you know, Basil is a great friend of mine. [0:33:07] So is Benny. I love those guys. They also full endorsement for me. But but this is also how [0:33:12] politics functions. This is how Congress works. And and it's it's very interesting to see it play [0:33:19] out because I think it does open up, it allows for us to understand better how exactly the system [0:33:28] has been so broken and where it starts to break and why people are given certain opportunities [0:33:35] over others or why certain people are, you know, sort of, you know, outcasted or put off of certain [0:33:43] platforms told not to engage with, you know, early on because they're not, maybe they're not [0:33:48] willing to play the game, maybe there's not anything on them that could be used as blackmail. [0:33:53] So they're deemed as as being a liability in that sense. Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot there. [0:33:59] So if Candace Owens was being blackmailed by somebody like, you know, Milo Yiannopoulos or anyone, [0:34:06] that person, if you're being blackmailed, ultimately, you can't be trusted. You know, [0:34:13] it's a really terrible situation. I'm sure I would hate to be blackmailed with anything. [0:34:18] But it does make me or anyone, you know, being blackmailed, untrustworthy. [0:34:24] Yeah. Oh, yeah. And speaking of Donald Trump. No, I'm just kidding. But but but it is very clear. [0:34:31] And so I want your thoughts on this. You know, unfortunately, I haven't had a chance to read your book. [0:34:35] I've got so much on my reading list. It's incredible. But I have skimmed it. [0:34:40] And so we are, like I said, we're at this kind of 500-year intersection of social unrest, upheaval of forth turning. [0:34:50] You know, the social contract, if you will, in our society is gone. [0:34:57] It's up. [0:34:58] It clearly is not being held up by basically any party, right? [0:35:04] You know, especially with the U.S. dollar. [0:35:06] You know, when they took us off the gold standard in 1971, [0:35:10] they promised, oh, don't worry, we're not going to start printing money. [0:35:13] We're not going to start, you know, doing inflation [0:35:15] and printing more than is there. [0:35:17] And, well, that obviously was a lie. [0:35:20] And they have, and you can look. [0:35:22] And I think it's just even since 2020, according to CPI, [0:35:28] we've lost about 25% of purchasing power with the dollar. [0:35:31] So if you're saving your money in dollars, you're getting robbed. [0:35:36] And so when it comes to the monetary order, when it comes to this idea of like, oh, well, [0:35:41] if you work hard and save, you'll get ahead in society. [0:35:44] You'll have a better life for your kids. [0:35:46] It's just like, OK, so all of that's been a lie. [0:35:49] People are becoming red pilled, if you will, on how democracy works through the Epstein [0:35:56] thing, seeing how he kind of traversed in all these different circles and blackmailed [0:36:03] people and people giving one another favors and all of that. And so, you know, I don't know if [0:36:10] there's going to be some sort of uprising or an upheaval or maybe a financial collapse, but [0:36:15] it's very clear that something could change at this point. You know, whether that be through [0:36:23] like some sort of international default, if we start defaulting on our bonds or on our money [0:36:29] or in our promises or whatever, [0:36:32] there could be an opportunity for something to change there. [0:36:35] And I guess in your book, [0:36:36] you're kind of arguing for a return to a structure [0:36:40] more like a king. [0:36:43] What are your thoughts on, I guess, Nayib Bukele [0:36:47] and how he's doing things down in El Salvador? [0:36:51] Would that be kind of in line or flesh out, [0:36:55] you know, like let's put on the LARP hat [0:36:57] and let's flesh out how we get from point A to B. [0:36:59] Well, there are some great examples actually to draw from, including him. [0:37:05] I mean, yes, this person basically has to go into the broken system, not necessarily by playing the game, but by kind of bypassing the game. [0:37:16] I would say a better but very flawed example would be JD Vance, who has been handpicked from a very young age. [0:37:25] um the problem with jd vance is you know i he he sort of uh he's not an ideologue in the same way [0:37:35] that someone like peter teal is so people speculate that all the time that you know is peter teal [0:37:42] really behind someone like jd vance's ideology or is or is peter teal going to get what he wants [0:37:47] uh you know through someone like jd vance i would say no i'd say jd vance is much more [0:37:53] ideologically in line and has, has, uh, has benefited from his relationship with Elon Musk [0:37:59] more than he has someone like Peter Thiel. Peter Thiel is, uh, far more interesting. Actually, [0:38:06] I may get some flack from this from some people, but I think Peter Thiel is like actually preferable [0:38:11] to, to someone like Elon. I know that may sound crazy. Um, why, what, what, what particularly? [0:38:17] Well, because he believes in a, ultimately, like a tech, monarchical, corporate state. So a top-down authority figure. Maybe some of your listeners might be familiar with Curtis Jarvin, Minch's mold bug. [0:38:36] And, you know, I sort of view that as, yes, it's the antithesis to what I believe in fundamentally because people are not numbers on a screen. [0:38:45] People are not measured by GDP or graphs. [0:38:49] But at the same time, that is a more preferable system largely because it doesn't have the ingrained or fundamental disease that liberal democracy has or that anything sort of close to it would have, which would be like an aristocracy, right? [0:39:11] Which is kind of what we had during the founding of the country. [0:39:16] You had rich, white, men of interest, landowners voting. [0:39:22] And what did they end up voting for? [0:39:23] Well, over time, they began to vote for a more liberal society, one that advocated on behalf of the underclass, the underprivileged, what have you. [0:39:34] Women get the right to vote. Immigrants start to come in. Blacks get the right to vote. [0:39:39] And it becomes a more muddied system of government that allows for more and more corruption. The expansion of the bureaucracy, all of these agencies that are, you can sort of find this in the medical field, right? The doctors that, the cancer conspiracy theory, which is why would they ever find the cure for cancer if it's how they make all their money is by treating it, right? [0:40:05] So how do you fix Congress or these bureaucratic agencies if they've literally been built to fix a problem that they can essentially claim to be unfixable? [0:40:18] They can only treat the symptoms of the problem. [0:40:22] So someone like J.D. Vance is kind of a good example. [0:40:25] And Peter Thiel, while I disagree with him in some very fundamental ways, I think that he would prefer a monologue. [0:40:35] And I would, too. I would I would rather be ruled by a monarch. Now, with that being with that being said, however, you need to people need to understand how the system works, which is an ego capture dynamic. [0:40:49] And this is something that I write in my book. So is is a politician that is telling the truth is a politician that is being clear and honest and truthful from the get go that is running a campaign? [0:41:01] Is he going to win? Is he more likely to win the campaign over someone who is more entertaining, more theatrical and lying? [0:41:09] You know, you look at Donald Trump in 2016, his claims were that he was going to build the border wall, that Hillary Clinton would be arrested and behind bars, that the swamp would be drained, which is a pretty remarkable and general statement. [0:41:23] Like, what does that mean? You know, for me, that means we go in and we lock the doors to the FBI and the CIA one morning before they go into work. [0:41:31] And we say, you're all fired. Have a great life. But for Donald Trump, I guess that means, you know, we replace some of the department heads, which fundamentally does not change how corrupt and broken these institutions really are. [0:41:48] So who wins the elections? Who gets the upper hand in democracy? It is people that are able to lie to you or capable of lying or want to lie to you. And the people that are thrown down by the wayside are those that are being maybe honest, that are boring, you know, conceptually or something. And those people are quickly forgotten. [0:42:11] And this is all propaganda. So and this is why money gets into politics. How much can someone fundraise is based on how much entertainment essentially they provide their constituency. [0:42:22] Donald Trump began to take super PAC money in his 2016 campaign campaign after very early on claiming he never wanted to take super PAC money, that he was the only guy who was not involved with special interest groups. [0:42:37] Well, look what happened in 2020. [0:42:38] Not only was he taking super PAC money, but he aligned himself with the enemy, ultimately, in big tech, who had been against him the entire time. [0:42:46] So, you know, they realized that there was money to be made, that alliances need to be developed, and they found their end. [0:42:52] And now Donald Trump is not just a shell of what he once was, because I now, looking back, don't view him as an ideological leader of change. [0:43:01] But I do think that at the time, he meant a lot. [0:43:04] He thought he meant a lot of what he wanted. [0:43:07] You know, I think he really was kind of is a populist. [0:43:10] But but really, it's become more about, you know, him making money and getting out once [0:43:16] he's once he's done, he'll be done. [0:43:18] So, you know, what do we need to answer your question? [0:43:22] What does it look like to to win? [0:43:24] Well, it takes a few things. [0:43:26] And as far as, you know, real politics goes with Congress and a Senate, requires five. [0:43:34] Requires five House reps or five senators that are ideologically aligned with something like I believe in or something like you believe in that are willing to grind the system to a halt, to shut down the government, to have leverage over the executive in power, whether that be a Democrat or a Republican that's working against our interests. [0:43:52] And that shows legitimacy. [0:43:53] The second phase of this is the most important, which is having someone who is capable of running for the executive. [0:44:04] And once he gets into that executive seat, he simply pulls an FDR and says that he's unilaterally going to take control of the federal government and Congress no longer matters. [0:44:17] Once you do something like that, once you lock the doors to the CIA, to the FBI, replace everyone involved and, you know, change the system from within in its totality, that is the only way that this ever succeeds or creates. [0:44:31] You need to fundamentally disregard Congress and the judiciary, which Donald Trump could do, by the way. [0:44:36] But he does not want to out of probably fear, I would assume, or bribery. [0:44:43] Yeah, yeah. God knows what's driving him at this point. [0:44:45] I mean, I do think that a lot of it is greed. [0:44:48] You know, you can look at all of the stuff going on with World Liberty Financial, which [0:44:52] is his son's little like crypto bank or whatever. [0:44:57] You know, they're doing all kinds of crazy deals, creating their own U.S. dollar stable [0:45:04] coin. [0:45:05] They're laying the infrastructure for that and making gobs of money. [0:45:09] I mean, you know, there's that, remember the Trump coin, Melania coin, they just scammed [0:45:13] a bunch of money. [0:45:14] Just off. [0:45:15] I mean, how was that not covered? [0:45:17] Oh my gosh. [0:45:18] I don't know. [0:45:19] That is one of the most ridiculous things that's ever happened in this country. [0:45:23] Yes. [0:45:24] Yeah. [0:45:24] And the media was totally silent on it. [0:45:26] I think I was one of maybe like 10 people on X that was calling that out as it was happening. [0:45:33] You know, that happened the day before he got sworn in and I tweeted about it and everybody [0:45:38] was just like, oh, shut up, man. [0:45:40] He hasn't even been sworn in yet. [0:45:41] And I'm like, yeah, that's what makes this even worse. [0:45:43] like what are you talking about you know like yeah this coin you know it's like a hundred dollars a [0:45:49] coin and now it's like worth like two dollars it's like you just scammed your most loyal supporters [0:45:54] you just straight up took their money and he's already a billionaire like what are we doing well [0:45:59] look at what happened in 2020 so 2020 was sort of the the the natural conclusion of the commoners [0:46:07] rising up because they they believe the system was broken and cheating donald trump out of office [0:46:12] Right. So what did they do? They took over the Capitol. They took over the halls of, you know, at least perceived front facing power. And they said, we want Donald Trump to come back and claim the throne of power. [0:46:25] And and Donald Trump in that moment could have turned around and waltzed inside and said, yeah, we're not leaving. This is it. I'm king. [0:46:38] And if he was truly an ideological leader, someone who was motivated by honesty and truth and justice and all of these things that many for sure thought in 2016, then that would have been a very grand, incredible moment in history. [0:46:56] and unfortunately all it resulted in was his constituency, [0:47:01] his base being brutalized by the Democrat, liberal, leftist, [0:47:07] you know, Department of Justice and FBI [0:47:11] and, you know, all the other intelligence agencies involved in that. [0:47:14] So, you know, we could have, [0:47:16] and that's basically what the crypto coin represents in my mind [0:47:19] is a continuation of this betrayal. [0:47:22] The 2020 election, he turned his back on the people [0:47:26] that believed in him, that wanted him to do the right thing. [0:47:29] And he left them out to dry. [0:47:31] He rug-pulled them then. [0:47:33] And of course, he rug-pulled them on a Trump coin. [0:47:36] I mean, why wouldn't he at that point? [0:47:38] No, absolutely. [0:47:39] And I was going to say, you know, just to kind of back... [0:47:42] Oops, why am I there? [0:47:43] There we go. [0:47:44] Just to kind of like back you up on, you know, some of these claims. [0:47:46] This is, of course, stuff that we've been talking about on the show for a while now. [0:47:50] Some polling that came out. [0:47:52] This is a New York Times poll that was conducted during June of this year. [0:47:58] And of course, you know, you're going to look at these figures and it does make sense when you're looking at them, why it's skewed the way that it's skewed. [0:48:07] You know, you can see the institutions that Republicans nominally have control of, Republicans have higher confidence in. [0:48:15] Institutions that Democrats have more control over, they have more, quote, confidence in. [0:48:21] But overall, something both of them agree on here, like look at the approval or confidence level that they have in Congress, right? [0:48:31] I mean it's through the floor. [0:48:34] Four, 10 percent of Republicans have a high confidence in Congress, five percent of Democrats, you know, other things. [0:48:43] But they're reelected 98 percent of the time, so they must have a high approval, right? [0:48:48] It's incredible. [0:48:49] And then, you know, the criminal justice system, both Democrats and Republicans don't have a high level of trust in that. [0:48:57] You know, higher education, of course, Democrats have a higher trust in that. [0:49:01] But, you know, just generally speaking, like we don't have high levels of confidence in any of these institutions. [0:49:08] And like the bar is so low. [0:49:11] You know, up here we have this guy who just became mayor of Post Falls. [0:49:17] let me pull him up on the screen real quick [0:49:20] Mayor Randy Westland [0:49:22] Westland [0:49:24] come on you [0:49:25] there we go [0:49:27] and so like you know he got into office [0:49:29] very recently [0:49:30] and younger guy [0:49:33] but he's doing things [0:49:36] that are just like very obvious [0:49:38] you know he's being open [0:49:39] he's being transparent [0:49:41] you can comment on [0:49:43] his posts on Xer [0:49:45] on Facebook and he'll like actually respond to you. Um, you know, but he's done things like, [0:49:52] for example, he signed this, uh, letter or agreement with, uh, ICE, right. Uh, the two, [0:50:00] two 87 G program or whatever it is. Um, I'm not gonna be able to, yeah, here it is. Uh, [0:50:04] the two 87 G program, right. He's the only mayor in the entire state of Idaho that has signed on [0:50:11] with ice. And so now we actually have local police, uh, you know, post falls police that [0:50:16] will just drive up to a construction site and start carting, uh, workers be like, Hey, [0:50:21] which, which, which, it's a shame that no one else is really getting on board with this. [0:50:27] This is the, this is the issue that there is no reason why in a nation, uh, you know, as important [0:50:34] And, you know, to the world, I mean, it should be having to deal with a national security threat, the scale at which, you know, is within, you know, 10 million, 15, maybe 20 million people being here illegally. [0:50:53] That is a crime. If Donald Trump was an ideologue, if Donald Trump really wanted to do the right thing, he would send in ICE to these places where their sanctuary cities headed up by corrupt left wing governors and mayors. [0:51:09] And he would simply say, hey, listen, if you don't let us do our job, then you are going to be arrested for posing a national security arrest. [0:51:20] And you will simply be stripped of your, you know, your your your power. [0:51:26] You'll be stripped from your mayoral office or your governor's mansion or whatever. [0:51:31] And there's no reason why these people should have any leverage over an executive that desires to fix the country and its problems. [0:51:41] And you think that people, oftentimes you see people after something is done or once polling is out. [0:51:48] In fact, you could lie to a lot of people if you wanted to just by polling. [0:51:52] People tend to change their minds if they see something. [0:51:57] So gay marriage, for example. [0:51:59] Right. Gay marriage is a great example of this because gay marriage was not really very popular in the United States on the local level or on the state level. [0:52:11] But after it had passed through the Supreme Court, all of a sudden, you know, gay marriage skyrockets in popularity. [0:52:18] And it's like, well, so if this is how it works, then we really shouldn't be worrying so much about what is deemed popular in the moment. [0:52:29] We shouldn't be holding ourselves in this sort of stagnant stage of progress when it comes to, you know, doing mass deportations. [0:52:40] If really what the outcome will be later on down the line after all these people are out, the approval for this will be massive. [0:52:48] People will be much happier once these people are gone. [0:52:50] It doesn't the immediate reaction does not matter. [0:52:53] We just can't publicize or, you know, promote, you know, people going into people's homes to send them back wherever they belong. [0:53:01] I mean, it's very, it's very clear that the way that they went about doing that, uh, you know, [0:53:07] the, the raids or whatever that happened in Minnesota, um, it's very, very obvious that [0:53:12] that was totally mishandled, like gloating the way that they were, the hype edits of the, [0:53:18] they were kind of good. Um, that, that was clearly like, not, not the right way to go about it, [0:53:23] but like, for sure. I mean, if, if we actually had mass deportations, you would be seeing, uh, [0:53:29] things like in-state budgets, right? [0:53:32] I mean, I think Vince James had actually calculated [0:53:36] how much we're spending about a trillion dollars a year [0:53:40] to educate non-citizens in this country. [0:53:43] Yes, they're a net negative. [0:53:45] We would be saving that money. [0:53:48] If we had mass deportations, [0:53:50] we would also not have the inflated housing crisis [0:53:55] with the price of housing, the cost of housing that we have. [0:53:59] If the government didn't have to borrow all of this money to pay for all of these welfare programs and we could actually like pay down the national debt and deal with inflation in like some sane way, it would become incredibly popular once people figured out, oh, hey, that's what's going on. [0:54:17] Oh, okay. Now I, now I get it, you know? Um, and there is a lot about that with governance where [0:54:24] when you just, when you do a thing and then you promote it and you back it up with state [0:54:29] propaganda, it will become popular. Right. And so I think that that also just, it speaks to [0:54:35] this, this whole idea of, you know, well, there was a saying, how much money, how much money, [0:54:43] right. Does, does the Republican party, I don't even know the answer to this, but it just got me [0:54:47] thinking, how much money does the Republican Party, the RNC, you know, these super PACs, [0:54:52] how much money do they make off of running candidates? How much money do they make during [0:54:56] the election cycle? I think that would be a very interesting number to find out because [0:55:00] what that would represent is, okay, this is, again, this is an industry that is based on a [0:55:06] problem that they're, you know, supposedly wanting to solve. But if the Republicans got what they [0:55:14] wanted tomorrow if a sovereign executive stood up and said, I'm king, I'm going to do it all. [0:55:20] And the left cannot stop me. And, you know, the Republican Party has no power over me. I'm just [0:55:26] going to get all the illegals out tomorrow. And we're just going to do it. I mean, you know, [0:55:30] the political industry, the political economy goes totally under and the political economy [0:55:37] doesn't function in a way that benefits the people it supposedly represents, right? It's [0:55:42] solely there to benefit the people involved in politics or involved in uh campaign finance and [0:55:49] these sorts of things so once you actually solve the issue this is why it's a you know it's [0:55:55] incredibly important that we realize that we are playing a a two two uh this is a multi-faceted [0:56:03] game where we are fighting against the democrats and in a sense because leftist ideology is totally [0:56:09] antithetical to us. But we're also fighting a battle against the Republicans when they have [0:56:15] failed since the inception of the party to become more radical and to solve the issues that they've [0:56:21] been voted in for. If you look at every single political campaign ad, you know, going back [0:56:26] since its inception, you'll see that they were actually running on all the same ideas and [0:56:32] concepts that we're talking about today. And, you know, even if you look at what people are [0:56:38] running on in your local community, you'd probably be very, you would be very shocked that everyone [0:56:45] in that party is running on the same promises. And they're all accusing each other of doing the [0:56:50] same things. Here in Florida, it's very common for Republicans to be accusing each other of not [0:56:55] being from here. But most people aren't from here because they've moved away from California. [0:57:00] So everyone's accusing each other of this. Everyone's promising to do what? To end money [0:57:05] politics to stop stock trading in Congress. When has that ever happened? It's been something [0:57:11] that's been discussed for a very long time. Oh, I mean, even none of it's ever been. Yeah, [0:57:17] I was going to say even the slogan, make America great again. You know, that was Arthur Finkelstein [0:57:23] came up with that for Ronald Reagan back in the 80s, you know, and it's like we've reached a [0:57:29] stasis point where at least for the past 40 years, there's been no progress at all. Not, [0:57:35] and I'm not, you know, I'm not a progressive or whatever, like in that kind of pejorative sense, [0:57:40] but like, we should be making some progress here with the fight, you know? And it's almost like, [0:57:45] like with, with Republicans and abortion, for example, like, you know, Roe versus Wade getting [0:57:50] overturned was like a bad thing actually for Republicans because now they can't promise that [0:57:57] to their people anymore. [0:57:58] Like, oh, you know, we're going to get rid of abortion. [0:58:01] And it's like, okay, well, now they got rid of abortion. [0:58:03] Okay, now please like close the border. [0:58:05] Oh, shit. [0:58:06] We have to do something now, you know. [0:58:09] And you can see this as well with like talk radio hosts. [0:58:13] You know, Rush Limbaugh's highest ratings [0:58:16] that he would get on the air [0:58:18] were during years of Democrat presidencies. [0:58:22] So it almost kind of like gave him this excuse [0:58:25] to get on the air and complain, you know, and that raked in the listeners, it raked in views, [0:58:33] and he, you know, raked in a lot of money with advertising and whatnot. [0:58:37] It's an industry, and it's an industry just like the, as I described, it's an industry just like [0:58:43] virology became an industry under Fauci. You know, he's incentivized to create a problem, [0:58:49] so what does he do? He takes a bunch of bats, and they find a virus, and they say, let's see [0:58:55] how this would affect people. Let's create a virus that can infect people at an incredible rate and [0:59:01] be devastating to a population for, for what reason exactly other than to secure government [0:59:06] grants and its continued existence. This is what the Republican party does on a daily, [0:59:11] on a daily basis, just on, on, you know, policy promises. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's a, it's, it's [0:59:20] incredible. And something has got to give at some point here, you know, it's gonna, you know, again, [0:59:24] I don't know the future. [0:59:26] I don't know what's going to happen next. [0:59:28] Nobody does, obviously. [0:59:29] Not even your favorite influencer [0:59:31] who's promising that there's going to be [0:59:33] an economic collapse in just two weeks. [0:59:35] Although there very well may be an economic collapse. [0:59:38] I did a podcast earlier today with Saif Adinamu [0:59:41] that will be coming out in the next couple of weeks. [0:59:44] He's like actually like an economist. [0:59:46] He's one of the advisors to President Bukele [0:59:50] down there in El Salvador. [0:59:51] and he is pretty keen on the idea that, you know, [0:59:55] something bad is going to happen and God knows. [0:59:58] But, you know, we need to be thinking differently. [1:00:02] We need to be thinking differently about politics, [1:00:04] about how we're going to actually solve these problems [1:00:06] and actually just solving the problems. [1:00:09] I feel like that's what most of us on the younger side of things want. [1:00:12] You know, we just, we're done with the theater. [1:00:14] We're done with the talking points. [1:00:16] We just want someone to stand up and do it. [1:00:19] And I think that's a lot of what the book is. [1:00:21] Exactly. Right. Like do like what what do we want them to do? What did we want Trump to do in 2016? [1:00:26] We wanted him to break the law. That's what we wanted. We wanted him to bypass Congress. [1:00:33] We wanted him to to bypass the judiciary to get things done. Yeah. Do we care if it's if it's legal to arrest Hillary Clinton, to arrest and punish Dr. [1:00:44] Fauci? Do we think it's like to close the border? Do we care if it's done legislatively and properly? [1:00:53] Why should we? The Democrats don't care when they get in office, right? They stomp all over the [1:00:59] Constitution. We're fighting an enemy that doesn't care about the founding documents at all. [1:01:05] All we need to do from this moment forward is realize that these documents, these founding [1:01:09] the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, everything from 1776 that we love and hold dear to our [1:01:15] hearts as Americans. These are beautiful works of art created by a people of a different time. [1:01:21] And if we want to secure a future for Americans that is actually a future worth living, [1:01:30] then you need to say, all right, we're willing to play this game. We're willing to break the law. [1:01:35] We're willing to assert ourselves and dominate our enemies. [1:01:41] Yeah. [1:01:42] No, I think that's what we're all kind of waiting for. [1:01:45] You know, we're all kind of waiting for that moment. [1:01:47] You know, you mentioned at the beginning of the program, you know, this idea that all of these liberal revolutions that have happened throughout history, you know, they've all—that every revolution throughout history has been liberal in one way or the other. [1:02:02] And, you know, even in Spain, right, during the Spanish Civil War, it wasn't the fascists, it wasn't the right wing that actually kicked that whole thing off. That was a reaction to what the left had already done. And they, the left, had already created this revolutionary environment. And the right basically, you know, rose up to put that down. [1:02:24] um and so yeah i mean i think you're right you know i i don't see uh joe joe q boomer coming out [1:02:30] and rising up i just don't think that that's gonna happen we need a i mean listen i i'm not a big [1:02:36] hitler fan if i'm being completely honest i like his aura you know he had great uniforms but but [1:02:43] truly what i mean hitler was an elected man yeah and or you know and and the nazis were elected i [1:02:51] think in the 30 percents so something around 32 35 i can't remember exactly but these people [1:02:57] were were you know they they adhered to authority they adhered to order they adhered to a lot of [1:03:04] the same like foundational uh broad or overly general uh ideas that that that you or i would [1:03:11] would agree with you know uh not i'm not a national socialist or a fascist i think you know these [1:03:17] terms, these, oh, I'm a fascist, I'm a third positionist, I'm a communist even, I'm a capitalist, [1:03:24] these notions are antiquated. And they are something of a particular time that really [1:03:31] was a very small part of history. We need to think beyond that. You know, what did Aristotle say? [1:03:38] The three forms of government were, you know, how did he understand power and these structures? It [1:03:44] was an oligarchy it was a uh it was populism and it was uh a monarch and and we just need to say [1:03:53] okay well i don't care you know what do i sound like a fascist because i want a king you know [1:03:59] it's not it's it's it's then you just have like a narrow-minded world view and understanding of [1:04:05] history you're like your understanding of history is from 1930 onward um and like people being [1:04:11] concerned by the idea of an authority, which I hear all the time from a lot of, you know, [1:04:15] older conservatives or older Republicans, they say, well, what about, you know, how great our [1:04:21] democracy was in the beginning? It's like, first of all, that doesn't exist anymore. [1:04:25] And second of all, all throughout world history, a monarchy has been the most stable, [1:04:32] functioning form of government that the world has ever seen. It has brought about some of the [1:04:37] greatest technological cultural innovations that the world has ever seen liberal post-enlightenment [1:04:43] representative government has done the opposite ever since its inception ever every nation that [1:04:49] has adopted these ideas has devolved in the exact same way so people need to really we need to hammer [1:04:55] that home with people look at the western world look at the state of these countries that that [1:04:59] are convinced for whatever reason that they're being represented or that being represented is [1:05:04] a good thing, just take a look at history and you need to realize that's just not true. [1:05:10] Take a look at the modern age and notice, hey, maybe this isn't working because look [1:05:15] at how America is doing. [1:05:17] Look at how Canada is doing. [1:05:18] Look at France. [1:05:19] Look at the UK. [1:05:21] Look at all of these places that have adopted these ideals. [1:05:23] And you will quickly find that we are all experiencing the same internal de-evolution [1:05:29] and self-induced suicide, [1:05:34] where we could be a properly governed country [1:05:40] with expediency and rapid response. [1:05:44] There's no reason why we should be basing everything [1:05:47] on election cycles for whatever reason. [1:05:50] Why does it make sense that things have to change [1:05:53] every two, four, six years or eight years or whatever? [1:05:57] that doesn't make any sense to me it's incredibly destabilizing if we had if we had no money in [1:06:05] politics if we had no political parties the king could say well let's try out universal health care [1:06:10] and just see how it works for 10 years okay it's not working or maybe we can tweak it here this [1:06:16] gives someone an opportunity to really try things without being beholden to party lines we often [1:06:22] And the Republicans versus the Democrats, they get so – it's like sports, right? [1:06:28] They're so loyal to their team or to their side that they would never vote on anything remotely resembling the other side or everything that the other side is doing is bad. [1:06:38] Well, under a king, a king can simply take a look at the way the country is being ran and say this needs to change. [1:06:44] and it's not about left or right dynamics [1:06:47] or what's going to be popular within, you know, [1:06:50] your super PAC, you know, your super PAC supporters. [1:06:55] Yeah, no, I think so, I think so. [1:06:57] And so, yeah, let's, you know, [1:06:59] you've got your new book out, King or Chaos. [1:07:03] It's got, is it eight main chapters here? [1:07:06] You kind of like lay everything out. [1:07:09] And, you know, at the very least, [1:07:10] I think that it at least, [1:07:11] it begins to kind of kick off a discussion or a thought process about governance, about what it is [1:07:19] that we're actually trying to do here. What is the political system for? What is our government for? [1:07:25] Because right now it seems like it's mostly just about ensuring that it continues to exist and that [1:07:32] it continues to blow off money in their own little economy in D.C. with these consultants. And it's [1:07:39] like, you know, there's, you know, however many million, 350 other million people that live in [1:07:45] this country that, uh, you know, uh, we're out here too, you know? And so, um, you know, uh, [1:07:51] check out his book. It's available on Amazon. Uh, we do have a link for you in the show description [1:07:57] below. Uh, it, uh, it'll kick off, uh, hopefully a good conversation. Uh, some interesting thoughts [1:08:04] about it. Make sure that you follow Dalton. Oh, I wasn't even showing it. What the heck? I thought [1:08:08] I was showing it on the screen. My bad. Here it is. King or Chaos over on Amazon. We've got a link [1:08:13] for you in the show description below. He's on X at AF Dalton Claude. Looks like you also just [1:08:22] started up a sub stack, maybe, you know, the person. Well, it's sort of a conglomerate of a [1:08:27] bunch of people that I really like, a bunch of writers that are posting, you know, on what used [1:08:32] to be just my sub stack, building a little bit of a team. And I have some ideas in the future about [1:08:37] where that's going to go, but, uh, pretty cool. Pretty cool project. Very cool. We'll make sure [1:08:42] that you give them a follow Dalton. Thank you so much for coming on the show today. It's been great [1:08:46] to have you. We'll have to have you back in the future. Thank you, man. I really appreciate it. [1:08:50] Yeah. God bless, man. God bless. Well, that was awesome. You know, we need to be thinking about [1:08:56] these things a little differently. We need to think outside the box, you know, uh, and it's [1:09:01] so amazing too, just that so many of these different critiques have been leveled so long [1:09:08] ago and nothing has been done. It is like one of the most frustrating things to be historically [1:09:14] literate in the political space. You know, there's this book, I just finished reading it actually, [1:09:21] The Party System by Hilaire Belloc and Cecil Chesterton. This is of course published by our [1:09:27] new friends, our new sponsors at IHS Press. You know, this book, I mean, go pick it up. It's not [1:09:36] that expensive. I think it's like 15, 20 bucks, something like that. And it goes through from the [1:09:42] perspective of Hilary Belloc and Cecil Chesterton writing in England at the time of, I think it was [1:09:48] like 19, the teens or the twenties. Uh, it was very early on has a forward by none other than [1:09:57] Ron Paul actually, or a preface, uh, by Ron Paul. Uh, and you can, you can read it and it's like, [1:10:04] man, the critiques that they're making of the party system in England, uh, at, at that time, [1:10:11] they are 100%. You could just transpose those arguments to today. It's the same problem. It's [1:10:17] the same issues, money and politics, how the politicians have bought off all of the newspapers. [1:10:22] Of course, now these politicians are buying off the media outlets, the TV, Paramount Plus, and [1:10:29] these different AI things. This is something else that we were talking about at the bonfire over [1:10:36] the weekend. I've been seeing ads for like ChatGPT. They're going to start selling ads on AI. [1:10:44] So like you're going to go in and type up a prompt, you know, and start having a back and forth with an AI to solve some problem or whatever. [1:10:53] And then what? Like you're going to get like an advertisement for Walmart. [1:10:57] Like, oh, yeah, there's a product at Walmart that does exactly this. [1:11:00] Just go pick it up. You know, do you want me to order it to your house automatically? [1:11:04] Like, dude, you know, all of these great things, these great tools that are that are invented, like just getting eaten up by capitalism. [1:11:13] the worst kind of capitalism, of course. Um, and so, yeah, check this book out, man, [1:11:20] the party system. I think, uh, I think that will also get your noggin jogging a little bit. In [1:11:25] addition to Dalton's book, um, there's a, there's a bunch of other ones, uh, that are absolutely [1:11:30] great in here. Uh, another one being, uh, Oh, what was it? It was a Chesterton book. [1:11:35] and I'm forgetting what it is. [1:11:40] But anyway, [1:11:42] is it going to pop out at me? [1:11:48] Anyway, not the Guild State. [1:11:51] The Outline of Sanity. [1:11:52] There it is. [1:11:53] The Outline of Sanity by Chesterton. [1:11:56] Of course, it's one of his fantastic books, [1:12:00] but you can find all of them at ihspress.com. 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[1:14:01] There were YouTubers and podcasters [1:14:04] with very big audiences, I might add, [1:14:07] that are attending this thing now. [1:14:09] We've got some venture capitalists, [1:14:10] some investment bankers. [1:14:12] There's all kinds of people [1:14:14] that live up here in North Idaho, [1:14:16] And we're trying to find all of them that have this kind of same way of seeing the world. [1:14:23] We want to put Christ first. [1:14:26] We want Christ the King to reign over society. [1:14:30] We care more about the quality of life. [1:14:33] We care about a world where our kids will be able to save their souls as opposed to just making the most money, etc., etc., [1:14:43] which is where I think a lot of Republicans are stuck. [1:14:46] And, you know, so it's important. It's important. Like I, like I outlined at the beginning of the [1:14:52] show, I think we're going to be heading into an age of post social media, an age where, you know, [1:14:58] the group chat is going to be private and invite only, and it's going to matter who, you know, [1:15:04] Dalton kind of hinted at this as well, you know, and I found out about this too. You know, when I [1:15:10] was at college, I went to Berkeley college of music in Boston. And it's like, you're sitting [1:15:14] there paying $50,000 or whatever the tuition was, um, to, to learn how to make music. Right. And [1:15:21] then you, you look out and all of these people are getting record deals. They're getting, uh, [1:15:26] promotion. They're, they're getting booked on tours and none of it had to do with how they did [1:15:31] in school. It didn't have to do with the grades that they got. It didn't have to do with whether [1:15:36] they graduated or not. It had to do with their networks. It had to do with who they knew who was [1:15:42] in their network. And so you need to be cultivating your own network and you can do this wherever you [1:15:48] are. I mean, if you don't live in North Idaho and you can't make it out to one of our bonfires, [1:15:52] you can start one yourself. Start one wherever you live in your community. Start a book club, [1:15:57] a meetup, some sort of way of getting to know other people in your area that are [1:16:02] seeing the way that the world is going and that you don't like it. And so you want to try to [1:16:08] fight back in whatever way possible. There's also, by the way, an interesting event that I [1:16:14] wanted to highlight, two interesting events that are coming up. One of them is, of course, [1:16:22] we outlined it here on the program. Let me go to the page, thebacklash.net. See, this is where the [1:16:30] The website is handy, but there is an event going on this weekend, October 3rd, down in [1:16:40] Portland, Oregon. [1:16:42] It's called the Oregon Event. [1:16:44] And this is a group, a network of people that live in Oregon and Washington. [1:16:49] They live under the oppression of like liberal hegemony out there. [1:16:54] And they are all coming together, meeting one another, forming relationships, building [1:17:00] bonds with one another. And eventually, hopefully that will go on to be businesses. It'll be [1:17:05] economic networks and eventually political power. So hopefully these guys one day will be able to [1:17:12] kind of reclaim Oregon, reclaim Portland. But it starts small. It starts with just a couple [1:17:18] hundred people getting together. And so that's going to be happening this weekend, October 3rd. [1:17:24] Um, I will be out there, uh, as well as obviously the big names, the big speakers that are coming [1:17:30] out. [1:17:30] Jared Taylor is going to be speaking. [1:17:32] Peter Brimelow will be speaking. [1:17:34] Uh, there's a bunch of other people. [1:17:36] I think, uh, dark enlightenment will be coming out. [1:17:38] Probably Pete Quinones. [1:17:40] Uh, there's a few other names that I saw getting kicked around. [1:17:44] Alex, uh, by the way, from ODGG supply is going to be out there too. [1:17:48] Uh, so that's the Oregon event. [1:17:50] That's going to be happening this Saturday. [1:17:53] If you happen to be in the Pacific Northwest and you can make the drive down, they might still be selling tickets at theoregonevent.com. [1:18:01] You can, of course, find that link on our website. [1:18:06] That was episode 170. [1:18:09] And, of course, if you haven't listened to it, you can go back and listen to episode 170 where we talked to Leif, the founder of the Oregon event. [1:18:17] And so that's going on. [1:18:18] Also, for those of you that are still listening, still watching, where did it go? [1:18:22] Um, there's an event going on at the old state saloon, uh, that you should be thinking about [1:18:28] going to. [1:18:29] If you're in the Boise area, uh, the sons of Liberty foundation is going to be hosting [1:18:34] an event at the old state saloon, October 10th at 6 30 PM. [1:18:40] Uh, so if you live in the Boise area and you watch this show and you're, you know, equally [1:18:46] not happy with the direction that things are going in Idaho, uh, you know, with like Brad [1:18:52] little or piece of crap governor, uh, who does not govern in the benefit of the people, but of the [1:18:58] corporations in the state of Idaho, right? You got a problem with that. Uh, then you need to be [1:19:02] networking and finding other people. And so a great place to start will be this event at the [1:19:07] old state saloon, October 10th. Uh, as of right now, it's looking like I'll actually be there too. [1:19:13] So if you want to get to see me, uh, we can have a chat, get to talk. I don't know why anybody would [1:19:19] want to see me, but if you wanted to, I'll be down there at this event at the Old State Saloon. [1:19:25] So mark your calendars and make sure that you're following Mark at the Old State Saloon for updates [1:19:31] there. You know, yeah, let's see. And like I said, speaking of Alex at ODGG Supply, he's going to be [1:19:40] at this Oregon event. And, you know, this is why we've got to support our friends companies like [1:19:47] ODGG, which is the Pacific Northwest's premier dealer of military surplus and survival equipment, [1:19:55] whether you're going blankie mode or bug out mode, these guys have got you covered. [1:20:00] Like they've got antennas for your ham radios. They've got gun accessories, cases, thermal [1:20:07] underwear, tents, sleeping bags, all kinds of stuff. And so when you're thinking about social [1:20:14] disorder and the kinds of things that we've seen in this country from like the summer of love [1:20:21] to God knows what's next. I've been seeing rumors about martial law. Again, not trying to freak [1:20:28] anybody out. You know, the odds are kind of low that any of these big social calamities happen, [1:20:33] but they always could. And so you need to be prepared. Make sure that you've got a nice bug [1:20:39] out kit, make sure that you've got some medical equipment, you know, a tourniquet, some quick [1:20:44] clot, band-aids, you know, and that stuff, that even works out just if you're like a dad, if you're, [1:20:50] if you're a family guy, uh, you know, one of the kids falls down, bonks his head, you've got [1:20:55] medical equipment there that you can tap into. So being prepared, you know, it doesn't just have [1:21:01] to be for like the zombie apocalypse, man. 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Make [1:22:50] sure that you've got that on your calendars as well. Make sure that you are planning on voting. [1:22:55] listen, I know that the midterms are coming up [1:22:59] and most people that watch this show especially [1:23:02] are very disenchanted with where politics are going [1:23:07] but even if you don't want to vote [1:23:11] for whatever piece of crap Republican is in office [1:23:16] where you live, go anyway, pick up a ballot [1:23:20] and even if you don't vote for anyone [1:23:23] and you just turn in a blank ballot. Do it anyway. Why? Well, number one, it'll cause bizarre [1:23:31] anomalies in the vote counting system that nobody will know how to explain. Number two, [1:23:37] there's likely going to be other local elections that are tacked on to this midterm. Mayor, [1:23:45] governor, state representatives, state legislature. And so you should be engaging at the local level. [1:23:53] So take a look, make sure that you make a plan, go vote. [1:23:58] It's not going to change the world. [1:23:59] It's not the most important election of our lifetime, [1:24:02] but it is important that you participate locally. [1:24:05] So make a plan. [1:24:07] And if you're in Idaho, definitely do so [1:24:11] because we don't want abortion to be legal in this state. [1:24:14] We want this state to be as uninhabitable for liberals as humanly possible. [1:24:20] We don't want them to be comfortable here. [1:24:22] We don't want them to move out here and get their friends to move out here and then do to Idaho what they've done to Portland and Seattle, right? [1:24:31] And so making sure that abortion stays illegal is a huge thing for the state of Idaho. [1:24:39] So definitely, definitely make sure that you vote there. [1:24:44] Also, atlusbullion.com, we've got a bunch of episodes coming up about the economy. [1:24:49] I mean, like I said earlier today, I did an episode with Saifeddin Amu. [1:24:55] Have you guys heard of this guy? [1:24:58] He is incredibly interesting. [1:25:00] He's actually a Palestinian. [1:25:02] So we spent some time talking a little bit about that from his perspective. [1:25:06] He's, of course, the author of The Bitcoin Standard. [1:25:10] So that interview will be coming out very soon. [1:25:13] We talk about the bond crisis in this country. [1:25:17] We went through what's going on in Argentina with Javier Malay. [1:25:23] And we talked about just the money system and how awful it is. [1:25:28] So make sure that you are subscribed because we're going to have a lot of really great content coming out for you in the very near future. [1:25:36] But also, if you like the content, if you like what we're doing, one way to support it is to opt out of the dollar system by using gold and silver. [1:25:46] Gold is now, that's a good price. [1:25:48] That's a good time to buy. [1:25:49] $4,132 an ounce for gold. [1:25:53] $60 an ounce for silver. [1:25:55] Could be a good time to dollar cost average [1:25:57] and pick up a little stack [1:25:59] and just keep adding to it bit by bit as time goes on. [1:26:04] Of course, with our friends at Atlas Bullion, [1:26:06] you can get signed up for their subscriptions [1:26:08] as low as $55 a month for their silver subscription, [1:26:12] $200 a month for gold. [1:26:13] and you can start diversifying. [1:26:17] You can start buying assets that will appreciate in value [1:26:21] as the government prints more money. [1:26:23] So think about protecting your wealth [1:26:25] and think about what you are going to be handing on [1:26:29] to your kids and your grandkids [1:26:31] because the dollar is certainly not the best way to save. [1:26:35] And you can do that at atlasbullion.com slash backlash. [1:26:40] What else? [1:26:41] Oh, that reminds me. [1:26:44] I feel bad for leaving this to the very end, [1:26:47] but I got a letter. [1:26:50] And of course, you can get our address [1:26:53] in the show notes below. [1:26:56] If you would like to send us a letter, [1:26:59] you can do that at P.O. Box 853, [1:27:03] Post Falls, Idaho, 83877. [1:27:08] I love hearing from you guys. [1:27:09] and so we got a letter here from our friend grace and race who says dave i pray this finds you [1:27:18] and yours in the best of health and spirits i am loving what does this say [1:27:24] dude this is awful i can't read cursive [1:27:30] i'm loving life i think and all things uh or i'm doing fine i take it back okay [1:27:39] Let me start over again. I pray that this finds you and yours in the best of health and spirits. I'm doing fine, all things considered. I hope that you find the enclosed white money to help keep the lights on. Thank you very much. He sent $100. I do appreciate that. [1:27:56] So the best commentary that I have found on the American founding is on YouTube, quote, a Catholic critique of the American founding by Dr. Jeffrey Bond on a channel called J-O-B-O-W, W, two W's there. [1:28:15] Dr. Bond shows how the founders envisioned a system that would reduce any reliance on virtuous men. [1:28:26] This is accomplished by increasing the number of factions competing against each other, which is what we are seeing today. [1:28:34] Highly recommended. [1:28:36] Thank you for the shout out, Grace and Race. [1:28:38] Well, thank you for the letter, man. [1:28:40] Let me see if I can pull this up for everybody. [1:28:43] May as well get everybody looking at some of the same stuff here. [1:28:48] So he said this was on YouTube, and it's called A Catholic Critique. [1:28:52] A Catholic Critique of the American Founding Dr. J-E-F-F-R-E-Y Bond. [1:29:04] And I assume that this will come. [1:29:06] Yeah, there it is. [1:29:07] So A Catholic Critique of the American Founding by Dr. Jeffrey Bond. [1:29:12] I will go ahead and throw that in the show chat for those of you that have stuck around. [1:29:20] It'll be interesting. [1:29:21] We can all watch it together and have a more, we can have a good conversation about this in the future. [1:29:27] But thank you very much for sending that. [1:29:29] And again, if anybody wants to send some snail mail, you can do that at P.O. Box 853 Post Falls, Idaho 83877. [1:29:36] and by the way, Grace and Race, that $100 that you sent, [1:29:41] I actually used $50 of it to buy some more firewood for the bonfire. [1:29:45] So thank you for that. [1:29:46] Wouldn't have been able to have the bonfire if it weren't for you. [1:29:50] So thank you again for supporting that. [1:29:53] And thank you all for tuning in. [1:29:55] This was an absolutely fantastic show. [1:29:58] Thank you to Dalton for coming on and being generous with his time. [1:30:01] We've got a lot of other really great stuff that's coming up. [1:30:05] I think I actually put out like a big promo tweet a couple of days ago because we also hit some milestones here at the Backlash. [1:30:19] We broke a quarter of a million views over on YouTube, and we've been seeing a huge uptick in numbers there. [1:30:25] That's pretty nice. [1:30:27] Massive spike over here in viewership, so thank you all for tuning in and sharing with your family and your friends. [1:30:34] Make sure that you're also hitting the like button. [1:30:37] But yeah, so we just had Dalton Clodfelter on the show. [1:30:41] Next up, Garrett Ziegler. [1:30:43] He's going to be coming on the show this Wednesday. [1:30:46] Going to be talking about his new initiative, looking at the judicial system. [1:30:51] Saifeddin Amu as well. [1:30:53] And Eric Kaysen. [1:30:55] He's, dude, he's nuts. [1:30:56] He's great. [1:30:57] Eric is like an anarcho philosopher, crypto bro, cypherpunk, and he's now developing a kind of like home AI system. [1:31:09] It's called like Vora, Vora.io. [1:31:13] It's basically going to be like a AI computer that lives in your home that will be loyal to you, right? [1:31:22] the world's most loyal AI system, basically the whole idea being that these AI systems [1:31:27] aren't loyal to anybody and they're owned by these big, you know, mega capitalists and they [1:31:34] warp and distort these AIs to say things that they want them to say. And so this will be kind [1:31:41] of an interesting experiment. The idea of having your own AI that you can train on your data and [1:31:50] basically become like a real, uh, AI assistant for you. That'll be loyal to you. Uh, but anyway, [1:31:56] Eric has a bunch of other like really interesting ideas. Uh, you know, he's been warning about a [1:32:02] digital nine 11 that's coming potentially, uh, you know, maybe a giant hack of the banking system or [1:32:09] some, some way or some sort of catalyzing event that will give the power structure, the, um, [1:32:19] the, uh, the, the reason to crack down on self-hosted AI, right? Just like the way that [1:32:28] 9-11 brought about the Patriot Act and mass surveillance. He thinks that there's going to [1:32:33] be some sort of catalyzing event, like a digital 9-11, uh, that will serve as the excuse to get [1:32:40] rid of AI, uh, for we, the people. Uh, so that'll be a really, really interesting conversation. [1:32:47] We're going to be taping that one on actually this Friday, I think. [1:32:53] And so, yeah, we've also got a really interesting interview coming up in mid-October, [1:33:02] I think October 12th, with Emily from Volo Match, [1:33:07] a intentional Catholic matchmaking service. [1:33:11] So, you know, people are trying to get away from all of the swiping, [1:33:16] Swipe left if you like me or swipe right and all this crap and getting back to like real connections. [1:33:22] So that's this group called Valomatch. [1:33:25] And we'll be doing an interview with them about courtship and dating and marriage and all of that because that's very important. [1:33:32] We need to get married. [1:33:33] We need to have kids. [1:33:34] We need to raise up the next generation to take up the fight for Christ the King. [1:33:39] So mark your calendars. [1:33:42] I think it'll be very good. [1:33:44] but anyway that'll do it for me today [1:33:47] I think we've covered almost everything [1:33:49] that we possibly could of course we'll be back [1:33:51] on Wednesday with [1:33:52] Garrett Ziegler [1:33:54] and you know [1:33:56] some updates on all of the other situations [1:33:59] that we're keeping an eye on thank you so much [1:34:01] for tuning in today it's been a pleasure [1:34:02] make sure that you're following [1:34:04] make sure that you're hitting the like button [1:34:06] God bless all of you and [1:34:08] we'll see you this Wednesday [1:34:10] have a good one [1:34:14] Thank you. [1:34:44] Thank you. [1:35:14] Thank you. [1:35:44] Thank you. [1:36:14] We'll see you next time. [1:36:44] Thank you.