Interview · July 1, 2025

Episode 52 — Zionism, Bitcoin, & Medical Deep State — A Savage Awakening w/ Dr. Jack Kruse

In this explosive two-hour episode of The Backlash, hosts Rebecca Hargraves and Dave Reilly are joined by neurosurgeon-turned-Bitcoin-maximalist Dr. Jack Kruse for a savage deep dive into the collapse of modern civilization—and the decentralized lifeboats that could save us.Broadcasting from El Salvador, Dr. Kruse delivers a no-holds-barred indictment of the medical-industrial complex, Zionist infiltration of finance and tech, and the fragility of American domestic life. From the hidden dangers of blue light and mitochondrial disease to the captured state of U.S. politics and the truth about Jack Mallers, Michael Saylor, and the Peter Thiel network, this episode peels back the curtain on the global struggle between freedom and control.Whether you’re a health skeptic, a fiat slave, or a freedom maximalist, this episode will either wake you up—or wreck your illusions.Listen on Spotify:Listen on Apple Podcasts:

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Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse The Backlash-ep52- Zionism, Bitcoin, & the Medical Deep State – A Savage Awakening w Dr. Jack Kruse Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:01:06 ] you Good morning, listeners. Thank you for joining us early today. This is The Backlash. You can find us on X at Real Backlash. Our website is thebacklash. net. Support us on subscribestar. com/slash/ thebacklash, patreon. com/slash/ thebacklash. Send your super chats that will be read live at the end of the show to thebacklash. net/super-chat. Subscribe to us on our platform so that we can start exclusively streaming from there. We are on Rumble at Backlash Podcast. YouTube at Real Backlash. I think that's everything. Thank you so much for joining us today. David J. Reilly [ 00:03:12 ] Good morning. How are you? Crazy day yesterday. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:03:15 ] It was crazy in Coeur d'Alene yesterday. We're going to talk about that a little bit at the end of the show so that we don't waste Dr. Cruz's time. Very true. But it was just a strange and bizarre day yesterday. David J. Reilly [ 00:03:25 ] An ambush. Somebody lit a fire to draw in the fire department, and then opened fire on them, wounding several, killing two. Yes, just absolutely insane. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:03:36 ] That I was seeing ash just on my car, and there was a plume of smoke that just rolled past my front door, and I was like, am I going to get killed by a sniper, or is it going to be the fire? And then I just fell asleep. David J. Reilly [ 00:03:51 ] And I'm here, so it's fine. We will discuss that later on The Backlash. But first, we do have to thank our sponsor, North Idaho Tallow Company. If you're tired of skincare packed with chemicals that you can't pronounce, at North Idaho Tallow Company, we keep it simple with grass-fed tallow, time-tested ingredients, and zero junk. Our grass-fed tallow soaps, balms, and lip balms are packed with bioavailable nutrients that your skin actually needs. Just rugged, reliable skincare that works. So please go to IdahoTallow. com. If you use promo code 'hetero', today is the last day of the big promotion for Hetero Awesomeness Festival. You will get 5% off of your order. 20% of the profits go to Mark Fitzpatrick at the Old State Saloon to help with their heterosexual awesomeness festival. And they also have really cool things like this tote bag and t-shirts. Aw, cute. So anyway, that's it. I did it as quick as I could. guest who is joining us today from El Salvador is Dr. Jack Cruz, a neurosurgeon, a health educator, and the founder of the Cruz Longevity Center in Destin, Florida. Renowned for his pioneering work in quantum biology, circadian biology, and evolutionary medicine, he emphasizes the critical role of light, water, and magnetism in optimizing health and longevity. Over the past several years, Dr. Cruz has shifted from conventional centralized medicine to advocate for decentralized health and biohacking. Aligning lifestyle with natural rhythms to reverse chronic diseases, his blog is jackcruise. com; he has over 250,000 monthly visitors. He is on X at. I did have it up. Yes, he is on X at. Dr. Jack Cruz, thank you so much for joining us today, Dr. Cruz. Thank you. Glad to be here. Amazing. So where do we even begin? Rebecca Hargraves The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse [ 00:06:06 ] I know I have all these questions about light, but you have all these questions about Bitcoin and the Holocaust. We were struggling to name this episode because we have a lot of unfocused questions. Where do you want to begin, Dave? David J. Reilly [ 00:06:19 ] I think you should begin with his expertise talking about light because this has been fascinating to see. Sure, sure. Coming out on X. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:06:27 ] I've been watching some of your interviews. I guess I want to start with blue light because we have over at The Backlash so much exposure to blue light. I have some blue light glasses, but outside of that, I mean, I'm not really doing very much to protect myself. blue light makes us dumb. If we could start there, if you could talk a little bit about blue light and why it's affecting us negatively, how it's affecting us negatively, that would be a great start. Jack Kruse [ 00:06:53 ] Modern life has replaced the sun with blue light. Technology fundamentally brings you inside. The effect of blue light is multifocal and varied. What does it do? It increases your blood sugar and your insulin without you eating food. It also destroys your DHA levels that come from seafood. On your inner mitochondrial, I should say your outer mitochondrial membrane and all the membranes in you so that you can't accurately tell time. It affects your melatonin level, which also affects your ability to tell time, also hinders your ability to fight inflammation. And it actually causes you to get older, where it affects your ability to think. Um, when dopamine and melatonin are impacted by blue light, there's a central retinal pathway in your eye that goes into your brain. It has no synapses. It goes to two places. One I've already covered, which is the suprachiasmatic nucleus, which is the clock that controls everything in your body. But the second relay center is the habenular nucleus, which controls your frontal lobes. And that's how you get dumbed down. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:08:04 ] Could you talk a little bit about light stability issues and how people that are from northern latitudes, like me, not like you with your Italian blood, how we can deal with that? I've heard you talk about embracing cold and waking up to see the sunrise. It's light here until 9:30 now. David J. Reilly [ 00:08:28 ] And it gets light at like 4:30 in the morning. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:08:30 ] Right, right, right. So do we just soak it up while we can in the summer? And then embrace the cold in the winter? Or do you think that we desperately need to get out of this climate for about three months a year? Jack Kruse [ 00:08:42 ] Well, I mean, it depends. In the old days, it was easy to overcome light stability problems because people would get up and go to bed with the light cycles. These days, that doesn't happen. So, the answer. Especially if you have a mitochondrial disease. You're probably better off going to a light-stable area. For those who don't know, light stability is built inside the tropics. We're not at 20° North or 20° South, which are the Tropic of Capricorn and Tropic of Cancer; you only lose about 30 to The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse 45 minutes as you get to the summer or winter solstice. So that builds the stability. Anything above that, you're obviously losing more light. Why is that important? Because when you have light stability, you're able to build a much easier template for your circadian life. So this is the reason why. Uh, many of the autoimmune conditions that you hear about, like MS, ALS, things like that are much more prominent outside the tropics. Uh, it's also the reason why SAD, which you know was probably popularized through the rock movement with Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain, and the rest of them that killed themselves. Most people, I think, know that SAD is a huge problem at high latitudes, so much so that places like Scandinavia are now putting mirrors in their downtown towns to shine light into them to try to give people more light at the winter solstice, you know, around December 20th, 21st. And when you begin to understand that and you understand that technology, which we've embraced tremendously since 1960, has brought this blue light inside. It's also brought us inside. Then you have to make a determination. I would say if you don't have any significant mitochondrial injuries or mitochondrial illness, you could probably stay where you are and use the old school way of doing it. Like the Sherpas did-embrace the cold, and the light changes as long as you're living in nature. But most of you don't do that. And when you, you're okay to lie to me, you're okay to lie to people on Twitter, but you should never lie to yourself. And if you lie to yourself, ultimately you're going to wind up with the mitochondrial problem. And mitochondrial problems, they're fixable, but for some people, they're very difficult to fix. And they become much more difficult if you have an uncoupled haplotype and you live in a place where there's no light stability. Why? Because most people are not willing to do the things that nature requires them to do. David J. Reilly [ 00:11:26 ] Right. I've actually, I heard at your Bitcoin Prague talk, you were recommending that people switch to candlelight again. Yeah. For the infrared benefits. Jack Kruse [ 00:11:36 ] That would be a big hack for people that live at high latitude. And that one is kind of easy. I will tell you, it's a little bit more difficult. In a place like El Salvador, because we don't have candles. And this brings up a very interesting kind of point. I've mentioned to my members that if you have a significant mitochondrial disease, like say ALS, they don't even have handicap cars and wheelchairs for you. Why? Because no one gets ALS there. And this is like a shocking revelation. You know, for people who live in Minneapolis or Toronto or Vancouver, because people are used to seeing people, you know, with MS, depression, SAD, things like that. The diseases that people get. Inside the tropics are radically different than the diseases that you see in modern America or modern Europe. And that has implications. You know, for people. And I think just getting that realization that every single disease is reversible, but not every patient is because they're not willing to understand that they are thread in the fabric of nature if you're if you think that you're somehow different than the wolves in Yellowstone Park? You're out of your fucking mind. David J. Reilly [ 00:13:00 ] Thank you. You want me to ask a question? Oh, no, no, no. I was going to say keep drilling down because I mean, I want it. I mean, is it true? I remember listening to a podcast. I can't remember who you were talking to. I know that you were just on with our friend Elijah Schaefer. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:13:17 ] Oh, yeah. David J. Reilly The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse [ 00:13:17 ] By the way, which blew my mind because I'm like, 'Thank God we're finally starting to integrate the nationalist community and the Bitcoin community and this like health, you know, health-conscious aspect that's been all interconnected.' Well, it's starting to get interconnected. This has been. Jack Kruse [ 00:13:33 ] Yeah, I would agree with that. I think it's just starting. I don't think it is interconnected. I think Bitcoiners are some of the most disconnected people on the planet. They get it on the money side, but they don't get it on the health side. And that's why I went to Prague last year and used three specific guys, three of their heroes – uh, used a hardware guy, software guy, and a bitcoin um cypherpunk, Hal Finney. I said, what good is it, you know, being a billionaire, you know, at 60 years old if you're dead? And, you know, it brings up kind of an interesting topic that's current events because he just did a pretty controversial interview. When Peter Thiel was asked a question, Peter Thiel happens to be. You know, one of those I wouldn't call him a cyberpunk, but I would call him a technologist; he's a transhumanist and he is cut uh from the same cloth as the three guys that I used last year, which was Jobs, Paul Allen, and Hal Finney. And what people don't really understand is Teal is the opposite of those three guys where he has always been focused on longevity, but his focus in on longevity has been through what I would call the dark side of centralized medicine, which is. The side that I think is dominated by people like Uberman, Peter Attia. Um, Ray Kurzweil and you know when you really nail it down. These are all people that came from a guy's mindset named Brock Pierce; Brock Pierce was a Bitcoin futurist and he was a founder of Tether. And blockchain capital, he's actually pretty tied in with Adam Back. And a lot of Bitcoiners don't know, you know, this story. And Block Pierce, the reason why this is critical for bitcoiners and you know, the technologists to understand because you have to know the history: he attended uh, a group called Mindshift, and he was Jeffrey Epstein's initial advisor on all things crypto. And when you actually know this history, you begin to go, 'Wait a minute. Is this how the bankers, the technologists, the transhumanists...' The Bitcoiners kind of all um came together between you know 96 and 2008 in this what I would like to call you know a spaghetti sauce pot. And then eventually out of that chaos, some order came and then you started to see sides. Um, manifest the problem is since so many people don't really understand truly how decentralized health and wealth are fundamentally linked and tied to the major players that are involved. You know, right now in politics, I think there's a lot of misconceptions. You know, in fact, I've said this many other podcasts-that many people listen to what Whitney Webb says and her partner Godwin and take it as gospel. And I don't. I don't think they've got the diagnosis down at all. They've got a lot right, but not all of it right. And most of the stuff they have wrong is when they understand what the two sides are. Like I've tried to give people the history. Um, with a guy named Bull Warg, a death metal guy, and then I gave more with Breed Love about the history of pre-Bitcoin with Meyerslansky with the Israelis, how the bankers first got informed that fiat money had to be blown up and why they had to come to CBDC. Most Bitcoiners, though, their focus, and you really heard this at Jack Mulder's redo video in Prague. And, in case people don't know, that video was redone. His investors in 21 didn't like the first iteration of the talk, which was done on the first day of the event, which I found kind of interesting. Really? David J. Reilly [ 00:17:47 ] Because I remember watching that. He name-dropped the Rothschilds in his, but was that the second version of the video or was that the original? That was the original. Jack Kruse [ 00:17:57 ] So they made him cut that out? Yeah, well, it was a little bit more consequential than you want to know. Oh, boy! This is what I wanted to talk about. The event wasn't well attended day one because, you know, that's industry day. David J. Reilly The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse [ 00:18:14 ] Yes. Jack Kruse [ 00:18:15 ] But obviously the people that are involved in 21 are all industry people and they're tied to this kind of the story that we're. You know, forming right now, and I thought the talk that Jack gave the first day was was spot on; it was actually very accurate. But the people who are behind this Bitcoin holding company didn't like it too much. From what I understand, Jack was already outside of Prague; he was gone. And they brought him back on the last day. He was the last person that spoke on the final day. Because his people wanted him to give a different version of the talk. And the version of the talk that you heard – obviously – it resonates with me and my tribe. Why? Because, really what Jack was talking about was time and decentralized time. But what he did is he took apart a lot of the stuff. That I'm sharing with you in the beginning about how this all started, how Epstein, Thiel, Elon Musk are tied with Adam Back that maybe Adam Back and Michael Saylor aren’t. Who we really think, and that we as decentralized savages have to look at the history of events as they unfold. It doesn't mean these people are nefarious or bad. And I'm speaking specifically about Sailor and Back but I need you to know how they're linked to this whole story so that When you understand like the change that Saylor made a year ago at Bitcoin Prime, Bitcoin Prague, when he said that, you know. Bitcoin doesn't really need to be a money. It doesn't have to be. Um, you know, custodied by the individual. It can be custodyed by banks and that we should consider leverage. Realize he's talking now as a CEO of strategy. Because he's got 550,000 Bitcoin. That is not who your audience is made of. Your audience is made of savages, just like my tribe is made of savages, where a loyalty title has to be protected. And Bitcoin should be thought of as money, not just the time value of money, not like digital gold. And when you really parse the story out, why he's beginning to say some of the stuff, it takes you all the way back, you know, to this beginning part of the story at the MindShift conference. And I don't believe people know how MIT Media Labs was tied into this story, how OpenEye Media and OpenAI were involved in this. Mozilla was interested in it, so was Microsoft. And the people that were involved, you know, like Reed Hoffman, the PayPal Mafia guys, the Peter Teals-these guys are all linked together at this time. And what's happened since then, they've all fractured apart. Now they all have their own, how shall I say, Bitcoin DNA code. And I guess what I want Bitcoiners to understand is I want you to know who your friends and your enemies are. Uh, remember my day job is as a neurosurgeon-the one thing I can tell you that I'm expert at is making diagnoses. You give me the thermodynamic givens and I'll go back and do a deep dive on the history, and begin to put it together. And come on podcasts when I'm asked the appropriate questions and tell you what I think you need to be aware of going forward. And ultimately, my two cents on the Bitcoin side is pretty simple: I'm trying to create decentralized savers so that they can create generational wealth, so they can change their light stability. They can build a citadel to save the normies in their life that are fucking idiots that they decide to save down the road. And the mindset that's being built right now in these Bitcoin holding companies. While I think it's good. If you're a company or you're a shareholder of these companies, if you're an individual decentralized savage, many of the things that are being talked about in their talks, in their podcasts. They are not. How shall I say part of your DNA? That is their zip code. Their zip code will benefit you, but make no mistake – that you need to capture a lawyer title with self-custody. If you're a Bitcoiner who listens to this and think that putting your money with Fidelity, Schwab, Goldman Sachs is a good idea like Michael Saylor has been kind of telling us now for 13 months, in my opinion, you're a fucking idiot. David J. Reilly [ 00:23:13 ] Amen. Now, Dr. Cruz, one of the things that I wanted to point out, because I don't get to talk about Bitcoin on this podcast very much, our audience sometimes is a little bristly when I start to open my mouth. Rebecca Hargraves The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse [ 00:23:26 ] That is the understatement of the century. David J. Reilly [ 00:23:28 ] Especially my co-host. Do we have any non-Bitcoiners over here? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:23:33 ] I used to have Bitcoin. In my defense, I sold my Bitcoin so that I could buy my house, my family home. Stupid, idiot. Mortgage-free. No-coiner. And I have no debt. Well, I would say. No debt. Let me interject. Jack Kruse [ 00:23:45 ] Let me interject here because this is important. Do I think? Like what I talked about at Bitcoin Prague this year, because I know you guys haven't heard it yet. I haven't released. David J. Reilly [ 00:23:57 ] I don't think it's been released. There's a pirated version that I was able to dig up on the Internet because I'm like, I cannot talk to Uncle Jack unless I've listened to his conference. Sorry. Jack Kruse [ 00:24:06 ] I think any time you sell your Bitcoin, as long as you're using it to put time in your bank account, it's a good thing. So that being said, if you're putting time. Back into your bank account um in your citadel I'm okay with that now. The interesting thing is, you guys started this podcast with some bullshit going on in your fucking locale; I don't even know about it, but I could give two fucks about it. But that really goes to this issue: it tells me that her purchase was not wise, why because uh, if you are in a place where you can actively be shot in fact, if I'm not mistaken, verbatim she said, 'I laid down with my gun and waited to see what was going to happen.' Let me explain something to you: That is fragility. That is not anti-fragility. And you need to realize that if you could be taken out because your local environment isn't safe, then you have to question. You know, your decision was selling my Bitcoin, wise or not. And this is, you know, you guys are laughing about this, but you notice I'm not laughing. I'm being very, very serious about this. That one of the big things about a loyal title is that you need to protect your time. And when you get in front of that mirror. And you're lying to everybody else and lying to the people on the podcast, realize to yourself, say, 'Am I really doing the right thing by me and the people who rely on me to do this?' Because I'm going to tell you, for me, this was a huge big deal because in the beginning I thought I was going to go to Florida. Then I thought I was going to go to Mexico. And then what eventually happened? I settled on the most unsafe country in the world. And if you think about that for a minute, you go, God, that sounds totally crazy. But what did I do? I put my decentralized thinking hat on and realized what Bukele was really doing. And what happened after? And people don't remember this history. Bitcoin became legal tender in El Salvador because of Jack Miller's and Bukele's efforts, before the exception regime comes in, before he takes the bad hombres out. So realize what that means to me as a diagnostician: Kelly, the politician, is doing something so unlike a politician. He's returning freedom back to his people. Then what does he do? Literally, backs it up within four to six weeks of putting the exception regime and that is what you guys all know as 'CCT' -putting the bad guys away. Literally, El Salvador goes from the most unsafe country in the world to the safest country in the world literally in two to three months. So, of course I'm down there when all this is going on, and I look at my son, I look at my nurse. And she even says to me, 'This place is better than Mexico, isn't it?' I'm like, 'Yeah.' And I said, 'This is a change. This is something I got to put.' Into you know my diagnostic equation, and what did I do? I literally pulled the trigger, And bought a piece of property there immediately. Now, did I build out on it, this, and that? No, because I was still concerned. Was the timing right? Was I too early? Do I need to see this develop? I did. And then when I saw The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse everything developed, I did something even more crazy. I actually bought a citadel, a true citadel. And I still have the original piece of property that I bought. My family now has this whole thing built out; the normies and the friends around me. I brought them there, and I told them, 'I said, This right here. I think for the next 20 years, we're safe.' I don't believe that we're safe. In the Citadel that I had built in the United States. In fact, all the Citadels in Florida sold and bought Bitcoin with it. The Citadel in Louisiana also on the market, ready to be sold. Um, I am no longer of the belief after what's gone on with Bobby Kennedy and Maha. That I think the United States is safe at all. I I view the United States as safe for maybe five or 10 years, but it's eventually going to wind up just like continental Europe. Uh, Canada and Australia, why because the government is doing very much opposite what Boukale did, they are stealing your time through every single aspect that they can, and this highlights the reason why I kind of rebuked your co-host. She experienced it last night, yeah, and the thing is if she doesn't make an accurate diagnosis about this, she's telling me early that she's got little kids running around, I gotta be honest with you, um. She's going to be one of those ladies on X, that's crying because somebody put a bullet in her kid's head. And you know what? I'm going to fucking write the tweet and say compliance. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:29:21 ] is a boomerang and you just got hit because you know what you fucking lie to yourself and you need to realize this is too much truth for a woman he's absolutely can i ask you a controversial question you need to hear it um i'm just going to get ahead of the audience because i know this is what people want me to ask so we have a lot of white nationalists in the audience that absolutely under no circumstances would move to a country where they were a visible minority so they're fucking idiots too Well, is there any place that they could go? Jack Kruse [ 00:29:52 ] Let me tell you why they're idiots. Let me break you at your fucking premise. Because this question has no face validity. Do you remember in 1770? Who were the white nationalists then? Those were the fucking people that came over from Britain that told the king, fuck you. We're going to worship God the way we want. We're not going to pay taxes. They were the foreigners in the land, but why was it okay at our genesis? And you're fucking telling me in 2025 that it's not. Maybe you're the one with the problem. Maybe your audience is the one with the problem. Because guess what? What's going on in the government right now is far worse than what went on in 1770 through 1774. And if you argue that point, I will fucking deconstruct your argument from the get-go. David J. Reilly [ 00:30:37 ] Based. All right, so let me intervene here. Because I've got some questions, and you've covered so much ground already, and I honestly don't even know where to begin. The first question that I have, because I love what Nayib Bukele has done. I've been following him on X ever since he came to power. He's the son of Palestinian refugees, right? Correct me if I'm wrong. It's true, and he's married to a Christian. Yes, and when you look at his government, the government buildings, he's got pictures of Catholic priests. You know, he always gives glory to God. I'm a Catholic. We're both Catholic. And so, you know, that's important. My condolences. It's okay. I totally understand where you're coming from. We've had our fair share of problems, CIA getting involved, you know, all of this liberation theology, the whole thing. But with what has been going on with Seacott, obviously great thing for the people of El Salvador, but there have been a lot of things that I've kind of noticed, like Donald Trump, for example, you know, deporting this guy, Mahmoud Khalil, or at least attempting to deport him for speaking out on what is happening in Gaza. And the talk of the town was that he was going to get deported to Sicily. I've got a friend, an Iranian Jew, who has been, you know, begging me to be careful because he thinks I'm going to get deported to Sicily. And there are some significant ties between the new state that Bukele has been building Israel. So can you help enlighten us and our audience? Is there any connection or chance that El Salvador is being turned into essentially an Israeli penal colony? Is Nayib Bukele captured by the Zionists? The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse Jack Kruse [ 00:32:30 ] No, not even close. In fact, I would tell you it's much more likely the other side of the equation, that his closest ties right now are probably to Trump's administration. But I will warn you, this is very recent. However, the big tie is to Qatar. Qatar and Turkey have huge impacts. Prior to Bukele, Communist China was big through FMLN in El Salvador. Uh, what did uh Bukele do? For those of your audience who don't know, one of the baller moves he did was a big, huge um metal statue in El Salvador that three and a half years ago, but Kelly melted down to make um new hubcaps for the roads, and he said that's that's what I feel about communism, and that we need to return freedom back to people. Israel has really nothing to do with local politics at all. There are a lot of Jews that are in El Salvador, but they were here prior to Bukele ever coming to power. The Jews that are in El Salvador now are secular Jews. They're not Zionists. Remember, one needs to separate the Jews from the Zionists, because if you don't do that. I believe that you're making a diagnostic error. Because the Zionists are linked through the Balfour Declaration, are tied to the bankers. And remember that El Salvador doesn't have a central bank. They actually use American money. And this is the reason why the Bitcoin story is so powerful because Bukele is the first leader that brought Bitcoin onto the scene. Why did he do that? He's actually done what Trump is telling you and your audience that he's trying to do. He's trying to protect the U. S. treasury market to make sure that the hegemony of the U. S. dollar lost another 50 to 75 years. Bukele did the same thing. Bitcoin was. the, how shall we say, insurance policy for Salvadorians that didn't own any Bitcoin at the time. Why? Because think about it. If American money goes boom, any dollarized economy goes big time boom. And the difference is cats like you and your co-host. Uh, if the Raw Charles and Rockefellers win, you'll get a CBDC so they'll just convert all your American money to the Bis money. You think that's going to happen in El Salvador? The answer is no, so he has to have this backdrop. And that's the reason why I started the podcast with you from a diagnostic standpoint to understand what it meant for a politician to give his people freedom and money. Why? Because, in Bitcoin parlance, you heard it in Prague, you fix the money, you fix the world. And most Bitcoiners believe that. We clearly know that Bukele is a Bitcoiner. We know his whole family is Bitcoiners. We know that he's got five brothers. We don't think even if Bukele leaves, that situation is changing in El Salvador. We've got 50 to 70 years. The flip side is you two who live in the United States. You tell me what your future looks like after Trump. I don't think it looks very good at all. David J. Reilly [ 00:35:50 ] No, no. I mean, like, if history is any indication, right, like, what always happens? The pendulum swings the other way. We've got the House, the Senate. We've got the Supreme Court and the presidency. I mean, we have. I mean, obviously, like, we've discussed on this program before. Who is 'we'? Yeah, who is 'we'? I mean, like, you look at the Supreme Court. You've got a bunch of people. Jack Kruse [ 00:36:10 ] Well, you should say 'we' for this particular podcast; it's about you to define 'we', we are Freedom Maximus. That means you could be left, you could be right, you could be center, but you are Freedom Maximus. What we now have, both on the right and the left in the United States, are people who are not freedom maximus. For example, Trump and the technocrats, they are freedom maximus for money, but not for surveillance. Therefore, they're not our friends. The left, is not free for money or for freedom at all they are they are very interested in king charles viewpoint of putting us back to feudalism in the dark ages where we are slaves on the plantation we're going to have nicer malls we're going to have starbucks we're going to have netflix but you're effectively a slave of the state and you will be controlled through a social credit score through passports through vaccinations through centralized institutions throughout. So we rejected that changed. The problem is Trump. Put J. D. Vance in as his vice president, which he needed to do because of what the Zionists tried to do to him at Butler. If he kept with, let's just say, a random person, he had to put somebody in worse than him; let's just put it that way, I don't want to get too deep into some of the stuff that I know, but he did this as The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse survival of the fittest. If you put somebody in worse than you at vice president, that means that you're not going to get taken out in your four years. J. D. Vance is far worse than Trump for the ideology of the World Economic Forum, the royal family, and the bankers. the the thing that you have to realize he's placed there by peter thiel right elon musk and you can see That that group is now fractured. David J. Reilly [ 00:38:14 ] Yes. Jack Kruse [ 00:38:14 ] The teleologic fight that's going on right now in Washington, D . C. that we're all seeing unfold is the technocrat transhumanists believe that they have a better way to control 360 million people than the Rothschilds and Rockefellers through money. And that is the battle being waged in the United States. And ultimately, I don't believe that battle will be won or lost in Trump's term. But what Freedom Maximus, both on the right and left and the center, have to hope for is unlike your co-host again, you have to have Bitcoin. If you don't have Bitcoin, then you've lost a loyalty title to your life under the left, right or center. Why? Because effectively you are in medieval Europe again. And that's the key. And that's the reason why I said to you what I said about Saylor. Remember, if you do a good job and say save 20 to 30 to 50 Bitcoin and then turn around and give it to Fidelity, as Saylor tells you to do, you've just made a fucking catastrophic mistake. Why? Lutnik and his buddy Bessette will make sure that they capture your Bitcoin for the United States. Right. And that is the key, that's the key diagnosis that I need my audience to get. I really could care less about anybody else's opinion. Okay. I really don't. I'm past that point. I'm done with the politics. I tried to get in and play the good fight the last three years. And I realize. Right now, because of my experience, that the only answer is a loyal title for Freedom Maximus. And anybody who wants to argue with me about that, I'm going to default to what Satoshi Nakamoto said. I don't have fucking time to argue with your idiocy. Okay? It's just that simple. And I need you to understand: freedom is the only thing we should all care about. And if your freedom was under attack last night, where you are, you have a duty to yourself and your family to look in the mirror and say, 'Have I made an accurate diagnosis?' Did I spend my Bitcoin on the wisest asset that I could have? That's all you have to do. And then start journaling; a time journal and say, 'How can I do better going forward as the government changes?' Because there's going to be way more government changes in the next 10 or 20 years than you've seen since 1971. Why? Because we're into that spiral. That is the reason why you are going to see some of the most crazy shit you've ever seen in your life. If you think things are crazy now. Strap on because it’s one fluo is the cuckoo's nest that’s coming to the United States; what do you think is the timeline on this? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:41:09 ] Excuse me, Five years. Jack Kruse [ 00:41:12 ] To be honest with you, I just did a podcast with another guy. I think his name is William James or something. William John. And what I said to him really blew his mind. I did another one with Sean Newman, who’s a Canadian guy from Alberta, and they’re talking about secession. I told him, as I’m going to tell you, that Canada’s already toast. You had so many chances not to get Carney, but you let Vancouver and Quebec dictate the choices of your country. The United States had the same effect with Kamala and Biden and Trump. We made the decision, but that decision is only going to give you probably Trump's term. So I really believe that Americans have between four and 10 years. If you're making a really good diagnosis. I would not hedge my bets past four years, because we all know that Trump is a one-termer. We've already seen that Elon has bailed. Elon, to his credit, showed us all how they're stealing from us. And basically, Mike Johnson, Trump, and all the people in Congress are basically telling you, 'fuck you.' They just raised the debt ceiling. Yeah. And you're in a debt spiral. I The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse mean, when somebody like your audience really says that Bitcoin doesn't matter. I mean, that that tells me that's a that's a group of fucking idiots. I'm sorry. No, I don't know any other better way to put it, because this this is so obvious now. It's the nose on your face. And I understand that it's really hard for Americans. to really truly get That we are where we are right now, but fuck we are. And we did it to ourselves because we kept electing. accomplices to the crime. And I'm just sorry. You have to call a spade a spade. And you have to remember I made this diagnosis not right now I left the United States four and a half years ago, before this shit really hit the fan. Why? Because I realized that I was going to have to rely on people like you and your audience. Yeah. Sorry. Like I'm not gonna let my wife sit in the house with a gun worried about you know some psyops going on in my town that's not happening on my watch, yeah just simple as that true now. David J. Reilly [ 00:43:42 ] Let me see. God, I've got so much. You might just have to get up and go. I'm kidding. Jack Kruse [ 00:43:50 ] I don't think she needs to get up and go. I think she needs a mirror. I think she needs a mirror. Now, the truth is, the truth is she represents, I hate to say this. Because this is the punch in the mouth for America. I gave the punch in the mouth to the Europeans. I gave the punch in the mouth to the Canadians. But listen, my tribe is the Americans. And there's too many fucking people out there right now that are trying to tell you, especially in MAGA, oh, well, he's playing 4D chess when everybody else is playing checkers. That's total fucking bullshit. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:44:21 ] We would never on this show. David J. Reilly [ 00:44:22 ] No, we are extreme. But just so you're aware, I'm sure that you are not sitting in El Salvador like watching episodes of The Backlash. So we are extremely critical of the Trump administration, extremely critical of Peter Thiel. You know, I do think that our audience has had a lot of bad experiences with so-called crypto, and they haven't figured out that there's a difference between Bitcoin and crypto. Yeah, exactly. Jack Kruse [ 00:44:47 ] Crypto, crypto, crypto. Let me just explain something to you. Maybe this will make it clear. Crypto is the zeitgeist. Bitcoin is the Jews. David J. Reilly [ 00:44:55 ] There we go. Okay, so that's one of my questions that was down. Now, the first person that I ever heard talk about Bitcoin was Max Keiser. I used to be an avid listener, you're looking at the chat and freaking out. Jack Kruse [ 00:45:08 ] He's my neighbor in El Salvador. David J. Reilly [ 00:45:11 ] So this is the question because I saw at, I was at the Bitcoin conference here in Las Vegas, which was basically a shitcoin conference, which kind of sucked, but it is what it is. I get it. My question The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse is about his presentation with Mayor Mizrahi, the mayor of Panama. He is, I believe, a Zionist. If you look here, he's got one of these Israeli dog tags on. And so, you know, Max was also very involved with our friend Howard Lutnick. Howard Lutnick, I believe, purchased his patents, which allowed Max to retire. I've seen Max be extremely critical. Jack Kruse [ 00:45:54 ] Have you ever talked to Max, though, about Lutnick? David J. Reilly [ 00:45:55 ] I would love to talk; we have been trying to get a hold of him. Jack Kruse [ 00:45:59 ] I can arrange it, but I can tell you right now, Max is probably more out on Lutnick than I am. Why? Because Max and I have sat in El Salvador and talked about how Lutnick was involved in 9/11, how the airline stocks, who was tied to the brokerages. That was Lutnick. I'm just going to tell you right now: that you need to understand when you're a Bitcoiner that you have to make the accurate diagnosis. I'm gonna tell you something else that's crazy. This will probably shock some people in your audience. Not all Zionists are out on Bitcoin. Some of the Zionists are hedging their bets. I'll give you a perfect example. Group a16z, right? They're there; they're filled with Zionists, but guess what: they own crypto and they own Bitcoin. Why? Because you have to remember something you guys have forgotten-a very key metric that I shared with Rebuff: the Zionists now know that the system that they built since the Napoleonic Wars is now hackable by the people who were in Meyer Lansky's folks. And Meyer Lansky, also a Jew, but hated the Rothschilds because of what he found out the Rothschilds did in the Transfer Agreement. They are now mortal enemies. So if you don't think some of the people in the desert that support the Balfour Declaration aren't hedging their bets, remember: these are the smartest fucking traders in the world. Then, dude, you've lost the plot here. That's why Wall Street, guys like Lutnick, yes, they're betting on it. What's Lutnick's game plan now? Besson's game plan. Let's get all the 'normies' like your friend next to you back on the Bitcoin train, and then we'll figure out how to steal it from her later; the goal is. Okay. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:47:46 ] I would hardly call myself a normie here. You're not a normie. Jack Kruse [ 00:47:49 ] You are a normie. You don't have any Bitcoin. I'm sorry. I mean, it's very, very cut and dry. I mean, you have to realize where you are. Let me paint the picture for you because I don't think you're getting it. You're on the beginning of a debt cycle that began. With the tarp bailout, okay, so you're now almost 15 years into it. You have no bitcoin throughout this whole time. You could have bought bitcoin for hundreds of dollars, and now you're gonna have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars. Okay, um, you're 37 trillion dollars in debt now, at the beginning of this, you were only like three or four trillion dollars in debt. So realize that these people who put you in debt would have already made you rich. That's the point that your co-host was just making to me about Max. Why is Max okay with Lutnik and the guy from Panama behind him because they've made fucking Max fabulously wealthy. Max has you money now; he can go buy Panama if he wants, truth be told. So, you have to realize that Max isn't in this just for himself. He's a 65-year-old gentleman who actually is more concerned about you than you're concerned about yourself, if you want to know the truth. And that's why he spent the last 15 years on his podcast with Stacey trying to get people to understand that your outcard, your Willy Wonka gold ticket, wasn't fucking gold. It's made out of Bitcoin. Why? Because it takes you away from the state. Because the state does nothing in your interest at all, especially when you're in a debt spiral. The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse David J. Reilly [ 00:49:29 ] Right. And when you look at, you know, who owns the gold, it's the central bankers. Jack Kruse [ 00:49:35 ] Correct. It's all the guys that are Rothschild and Rockefeller guys. It's obvious. David J. Reilly [ 00:49:38 ] Right. Right. Jack Kruse [ 00:49:39 ] So, you know, those are the Peter Schiff people of the world. David J. Reilly [ 00:49:44 ] Oh, you know, you are not happy. This is fine. This is totally fine. But yeah. So can you talk a little bit about because there is this issue and you were alluding to it earlier. Jack Mallers, the CEO of 21 Capital. Strike, which is one of the best Bitcoin apps that I use it like literally every day. So do we in El Salvador. Yeah, the ability to convert dollars to lightning, you know, without having to worry about paying taxes to like byproduct. Idaho Tallow Company, by the way, our sponsor does accept Bitcoin on their website. But you're seeing very clearly this movement of people like Lutnik, of people like these Zionist types moving in on people like Michael; Michael Saylor and people like Jack. I don't know about Jack Dorsey. I'd love to hear more about this, but I mean, like, it seems like Jack, Jack Dorsey is as pure as. Jack Kruse [ 00:50:42 ] as you can be in the Bitcoin space. You may not know this. He's not only a member of mine, but he's a client; yes. He's the guy that got me into Bitcoin. I will tell you that he told my members, I've been telling people the story on the podcast. We did have a chat about it back at Bitcoin Miami 2021. But he's the one that told me he was selling Twitter nine months before he did to Elon Musk. For the reasons that maybe your co-host would be interested in. If you look at the last Jason Bourne movie, that was a direct affront from Hollywood by the Zionists. To tell Dorsey that you're going to give us a backdoor to your software on Twitter and through Block, if you don't we're going to take you out. So the little Indian guy that was in the movie was Jack Dorsey, and that's when Dorsey realized I've got to get out of this game. One thing that you need to do if you're a diagnostician: I remember, I told you this isn't a right or left thing; it's a Bitcoin freedom maximus thing that Jack has always been Bitcoin, never been crypto ever. So that is his DNA. And you may not like the fact that he swings a little bit left on certain things. But when it comes to freedom, Jack is more about freedom than people who are probably in your audience. And I know they're not going to like that. But remember, Jack owns billions of dollars of Bitcoin; when your co-host owns fucking nothing. So I'm going to tell you, the way I'm reading the tea leaves, The people that own the hardest, best money are the people that are about freedom. And you can see that I'm not backing away from this at all, even in this podcast, because this is the message that people need to get, that if you're truly for freedom, like the people that wrote the Declaration of Independence, they're Bitcoiners, okay? They are Bitcoiners. They believe in a loyal title. Ever since the Declaration of Independence was written, the United States, we the people, have been losing ground. And today, the people that still don't own Bitcoin. Those are the people that helped us lose all that ground. And I give two fucks about them until they become part of our tribe and understand really what we're fighting for. We are fighting for the ideas that were written in the Declaration of Independence. That is what Bitcoin is about. That's not what the crypto bros are about. It's not what Peter Thiel is about. But I'm talking about the people that truly understand the ethos of Bitcoin and The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse realize that some of our enemies do own Bitcoin because they understand how powerful an asset it is. And they've got to hedge their bets. So if you think that you can parse out your friends and your enemies just by what they own, wrong answer. David J. Reilly [ 00:53:37 ] Right. Now, I will say, in Blonde's defense, in Blonde's defense, because of this show, a little bit of Bitcoin. We've got an app that we developed to take Super Chats. You can do that, by the way, at thebacklash. net/slash/ Super Chat if you have any questions for Dr. Cruz and you can pay for it with Bitcoin on this app. You can find it on the Support the Show Super Chat. It's the green one. I'm trying to give her a pass. I'm trying to, like, mend the rift a little bit here. Jack Kruse [ 00:54:11 ] You know what the answer is here? The answer is 'embrace the suck.' You know why? Because when you embrace the suck, this is what builds wisdom. This is what the people in your audience that are going to get my message loud and clear. I want to make you very, very curious to why I'm saying what I'm saying. I want you to vehemently disagree with me. Why? Because I know that when you look at the argument, I know where you're going to come out if you're a freedom maximalist. But guess what? The universe has to punch you in the mouth to get you to move off your mark. And right now, when you live in a place where people potentially could shoot you and you have no Bitcoin, that means that the universe has to punch you in the mouth for you to wake up. Why? Because we're already too far into this. The last thing I want to see is people in the audience turn into Sean Newman, where it's already past the point of them doing anything. You just basically hired a big globalist to run your country, and you're relying on people in Alberta that are going to save you? That's fucking psychotic. It's time to bail. It's time to take your assets. Because the one thing, the lesson that we learned from Venezuela, when Maduro took over and nationalized everything. They ruined the fucking country. But what did they do? They left the oil in the ground. So that means somewhere down the road, the true Venezuelans who have Bitcoin will be able to come back in. And harvest that wealth that's still there. And the same thing is going to happen to Australia. Same thing is going to happen to continental Europe. Same thing is going to happen in Canada. And I hate to say this. I think the same thing is going to happen to where you live in the United States. And I don't think it's going to happen under Trump's regime, because I truly believe Trump does love the country. But I think the problems are so deep that we are going to have to have a revolution with the technocrats and transhumanists within the next 20, 30, 40 years. And the lesson of the American Revolution. Is this what would happen if we were able to fight the best army in the world when farmers put pitchforks down and pointed muskets at the king? Well, guess what-they're going to come and take our guns away very shortly. And they're going to try really hard. But if you have enough Bitcoin, you'll be able to have an arsenal that we will be able to fight even the best army. And do I believe that people in the military are going to realize that they're not going to shoot at their own people? That's why I told Marty Ben on his podcast not too long ago that Bitcoiners and citadels all over the country-Just because we're not in the same country doesn't mean we're linked. Why? Freedom Maximus. Are linked by the ideas in the Declaration of Independence. You don't even have to be an American to get this. Everybody wants freedom. If you want to talk to the people that understand the value of freedom, I wish both of you would have been in Prague with me. Why? Forming this communist bloc country. It's the freest part of Europe. Why? Because they know what centralization brings. So I'm not worried about that part of Europe, but I'm worried about the part of Europe that was free from, I don't know, 1774 all the way to now, because right now they're embracing what the USSR did. You know, to the Eastern Bloc countries. And the same thing is beginning to happen in the United States. That's what California is. That's what Illinois is. That's what New York is. And that's what Texas is becoming. Like I'm having this active argument with Mary Talley Bowden. She's sitting there trying to fight, and I'm like, 'Do you realize that your governor is part of the World Economic Forum? Why hasn't he helped you?' Now you know the reason why. Well, what does that tell you? It's time to fight differently. In other words, what did Paul Revere and the The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse Minutemen do? They didn't fight like the Redcoats did. They fought differently. And what I'm saying to you two is: we are going to fight differently too. Bitcoin is not for war. But when you own Bitcoin, you effectively make war almost impossible. And that's really a very different idea than what I'm sharing with you. I'm sure there's a lot of people in the audience think that I'm telling you to go out and buy a tank and nuclear weapons and all that and we'll fight them this way. No, that's not the battle that I think that's going to be fought in the next 20, 30, 40 years. We're going to take apart – The surveillance state, just the same way, and we're going to use our wealth to do it. David J. Reilly [ 00:58:43 ] Now, it's been very interesting watching what's going on in Iran with this Iran-Israeli war. When Trump went along with the Zionists and bombed Natanz and Ifsahan, their nuclear enrichment facilities, we saw a 25% dip in the Bitcoin hash rate, thumbs up yeah you know why because you made the accurate diagnosis i'm very happy to see the last two podcasts that I've done that haven't gone live yet. Jack Kruse [ 00:59:18 ] The normies believed that this was about nuclear war. You just made the accurate diagnosis, and I hope your co-host understands how powerful this statement is. The real issue that Iran was doing, they've made the same diagnosis that I just shared with you. If we own enough Bitcoin, we become really difficult for Israel and the United States. Why? Because that is a loyalty title. They will be able to use the wealth. Normally, people in the Middle East think the wealth is in the oil. What is Iran effectively telling you? We know that Bitcoin is more valuable than the oil in the ground. Coin but that's effectively what the the bunker buster bomb told us like nobody expected; what's the idea that is in the crypto space right now: That mining in Bitcoin is too centralized. Well, you just found out that mining in Iran is a pretty big fucking deal. Yeah. Okay? So, guess what that tells you? If you are truly decentralized, that the story that you're being told through CNBC, through crypto media, it's not. what you thought. And I can tell you, there's still stuff going on in China. There's still stuff going on in the United States. I am not worried about centralization and mining. Why? Because let me tell you what the reality is. The reality is that anybody who has an issue where Rockefeller, Rothschild banking control is buying Bitcoin. You tried to tell me earlier-that the central bank countries are all loading up on gold. You're right. That's team Rockefeller and Rothschild. But you know, just as I know, that Iran isn't on that team. But guess what team they're on? They're on the side of freedom because they're trying to get rid of the scourge that is the Zionists. Well, here's the interesting part. Just because we don't have a lot in common with the imams of Iran, we don't think they're good people. You don't think that a bad person could still want the best money that money can buy to protect their sovereignty? Then you're different than me. And that tells me that you're not making the correct diagnosis. But I love the fact that you brought this to your audience, because guess what? That's the single number one fact. If you want to know why Trump, I think, backed away and pissed off Bibi. It's because he saw that same effect that you just mentioned. David J. Reilly [ 01:02:02 ] Interesting. Yeah, I mean, this is with this. We've been talking a lot on the show. Something that I harp on constantly is this thing, this idea of the curse of the eighth decade, that the Jews have never had a country for longer than 80 years. And the way that we are seeing things line up, we're starting to see things like their weapons, right, of, let's say, Holocaust guilt. You made a tweet, newsflash, the Holocaust is not as big as claimed. The math just does not fit. And The New York Times articles that use six million predated World War II, right? So this was propaganda and the propaganda isn't working the way that it used to. And so I think we're seeing these kinds of escalations. We're seeing this war with Iran and it is having a major. Jack Kruse The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse [ 01:02:49 ] Well, do you understand where the. You understand, like, the recent history? Because I don't know. I don't follow you guys that well on X. But I want you to know this part of the diagnosis. Do you understand why Bibi started the Gaza war? It's because the Jews, the secular Jews in Israel, were going to bring them up on corruption charges. Like, Bibi's on borrowed time. Without this war, Bibi's in jail. And Trump knows that. David J. Reilly [ 01:03:17 ] Right. Jack Kruse [ 01:03:17 ] So Trump doesn't want to give this guy any more oxygen than he has to because guess what? When this issue with Iran and Israel over when the the stuff going on Gaza is BB's hail Mary, okay then the people of Israel. There's plenty of Jews that I know, some of my good friends, they are fed up with how the Zionists have used them as a human shield. I think that the sovereign people of Israel have the same right to make the same decision that the people in Iran did. And I think they're going to opt also for Bitcoin. And remember, we all know who made Israel, the Rothschilds. That's why Tel Aviv has Rothschild Boulevard running right down the middle of it. But even there, they're telling you. They aren't sick and tired of the same old, same old. So I just think it's really disingenuous when people jump on one side or the other and they don't really think about all the data that's really out there, and put it into their data banks, and understand. In every country, every state. There's good and bad, but we hope – that there's more good than bad once the dust settles. And as I told you at the beginning of this podcast, that's part of the reason I moved to El Salvador. Why? Because I knew that there was only 1% bad guys. The rest of the country was good. I don't know that anymore about the United States. Why? They just let, there was already probably 10 or 20 million assholes in the country. And then Biden and Kamala let 20 million more in. So. If you want to know the reason why things are going on where it's going on in your guy's town. The CIA and FBI are no longer pointing their weapons at Central America or Europe. They're pointing them at the US taxpayer. You are now their enemy. And for you not to realize that. And spend your Bitcoin to buy a citadel in the place that's now the shooting gallery; I mean, look at Chicago. Look at what just happened in LA. Why is Soros able to do the things that he's doing? Have you not heard what Bukele said about Soros at the beginning of this year? He said, 'Look, this guy was a fucking cancer.' We got rid of him; he told Trump's people that in CPAC. But guess what? Soros is still running the DNC game in the United States, and you have normies in the United States going, 'Oh, we're okay. We're okay.' No, you're not. This is the definition, my friend, of Stockholm Syndrome. And if there's people in your audience that haven't, I am the guy willing to come on and bitch slap the snot out of them to wake them up. Not because I don't like them. I mean, I don't have to like you for you to get the diagnosis I want you to understand. Your freedom is at fucking risk. You're this close away from Venezuela. You're this close away from what happened in 1774. If Paul Revere and those guys don't put the pitchfork down and start shooting at the fucking king, that's where we're at. And what's the weapon? What's the weapon that we fight back with? The orange coin, Bitcoin. More of us own that, we become ungovernable. David J. Reilly [ 01:06:36 ] Yeah. No, I think you're right about that. We do have some audience questions for you. This one comes to us from Book Track Grooves on Rumble. Dr. Cruz, are you a Christian? And if so, do you have a favorite passage? What are your thoughts on bricks? Was it a right move for Russia to make? Jack Kruse The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse [ 01:06:54 ] Yes, Briggs was absolutely the right move, but Russia also. We'll be a big Bitcoin country in the future. Russia's not our enemy. General Groves is the one that pitted them as the enemy after World War II. And that was a whole psyops of the industrial-military complex. Yes, I am a Christian. I also grew up Catholic. My favorite part of the Bible is Genesis 1:1 through 1:15. Let there be light. I believe God told you the answer. He never gave you the recipe. My job on the planet is to give you the recipe. David J. Reilly [ 01:07:28 ] Right. Because like you were talking about with this whole mitochondria stuff is super important. One of my favorite parts is when they talk about throwing all the gold and the silver out of their windows because it's not going to be useful because everyone's going to be on Bitcoin. Jack Kruse [ 01:07:41 ] Well, guess what? That was Jesus actually being a Jew and not a Zionist. There you go. David J. Reilly [ 01:07:47 ] Let's see here. We've got one from Deep State who sent $10. Tell Cruz Trump and his dad have been in bed with the hardcore Jewish mafia from the beginning. Of course we know that. Jack Kruse [ 01:07:58 ] I mean, dude, Who doesn't know that? I mean, literally, when your audience tells me that, it tells me they don't fucking get it. If you don't think that I don't know this, I grew up in New York City, okay? I grew up in Queens. Trump is from Queens. How did fucking Trump get into Manhattan? The Jews helped him, no question about it. Most of those Jews were Zionists. Waldenburg Park, I saw it being built. But you have to realize something. You tell this deep state fucking asshole this. Do you know who Trump's best friend was when he was a Democrat? John F. Kennedy Jr. You know who he is? The fucking son of the guy they killed. And you know what Trump told JFK Jr? When I become president someday, I'm going to tell the world who fucking killed your dad. And guess what he did the first, I don't know, 25 days. The CIA and the Jews killed your fucking dad. He just effectively told the world that. So just because you started off and your father was a schmuck and you were a schmuck and you wanted to get in. to new york real estate doesn't mean that you're 100 bad this is the idea that you can't make an accurate diagnosis. It means that your genesis is who you're going to fucking become. Let me just tell you something. Things change. The environment changes. Like when people get a low-grade glioma, do you tell them, 'Hey, it's low grade. You're not going to have to worry about it.' But if you stay in the wrong environment long enough, it's going to become a GBM. It's going to kill you like it killed Ted Kennedy and John McCain. That's that's the fucking level of idiocy in that talk. And I know you guys aren't going to call it out because they're part of your audience. But I'm going to call it out because guess what? These podcasts that I do, this is about us getting our freedom back. And if people believe this level of thinking is going to do it, then we are fucked. David J. Reilly [ 01:09:53 ] True. Now, if you want, here's another one for you to go off on from Book Track Grooves on Rumble. Dr. Cruz, Bitcoin is connected. This is just wait for it. Bitcoin is connected to electricity. Do you think people should learn how to build steam engines? Are you concerned of an EMP power outage? Jack Kruse [ 01:10:13 ] Yeah, actually I've talked about this multiple times-that's part of the reason the architects that are tied to bitcoin; um and you may not know this, but I think this is actually a good question. Unlike the last question, 13% of the Bitcoin network is underground. So even if we get hit with a The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse Carrington-like event, things will be bad um for bitcoin. But let me flip this question around for YouTube. Tell me how you think it's going to be for the banks when you have no electricity. David J. Reilly [ 01:10:43 ] Right. Jack Kruse [ 01:10:44 ] How's it going to work out for your co-host? She's going to be able to go in and get some money and buy Vienna sausages? I don't think so. No. But guess what? If she's got a phone, and she's got a DC battery power, she's gonna be able to show people that she's got bitcoin that she can technically transact with, and then guess what? She's gonna pull out a paper and a pen. And you're going to go back to where it was in Little House on the Prairie days, where I'll buy a case of your Vienna sausages. And when the power comes back on, I'll give you the sats that you need for this. Everybody wants to think because Bitcoin is tied to electricity and it's a decentralized network that somehow this is a fatal flaw. They don't realize that the banks use 500 times more energy, more energy inefficient, and the money is failing with inflation. Just so we're clear, from 1913 to today, $1 is now worth $0. 01. David J. Reilly [ 01:11:42 ] True. Jack Kruse [ 01:11:44 ] Let me ask you a question, hold on I'm not done yet-tell me what did Bitcoin start with at the white paper and what is it today? David J. Reilly [ 01:11:53 ] Zero. And it's now at $107,000. Jack Kruse [ 01:11:55 ] Alright, so. Remember what I told you before about being a diagnostician? This is how you turn people into first principle thinkers. Now, you may not like the way I do it because I'm a Cervic. I'm fucking hot under the collar. But when I see people who can't fucking think, I am going to punch them straight in the mouth. Why? Because I believe that 90% of the audience out there who can't think they are capable of thinking but no one-No one has woke them up. They don't realize how they've been stolen from by the government, from their parents, from the bank, from the education system, from centralized medicine. And it's our duty as patriots to come out and tell people the way in which you're thinking about this is crazy. And if you continue on this path. You are going to be a slave on that plantation. David J. Reilly [ 01:12:50 ] We have another question. This is from jridge30, who sent $10 on Rumble. What does Dr. Jack think about Catherine Austin Fitz? She believes Bitcoin can be controlled and is guiding us toward a CBDC. Jack Kruse [ 01:13:02 ] Yeah, uh, Catherine Austin Fitz is very much like uh the people that I talked to before; she's got a lot right and a lot wrong but remember who where she came from, the Bush administration. She was a HUD developer. What good things did she do? She outed the 21 million or 21 trillion theft that The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse Skidmore talked about, who's the MSU accountant. She's pointed out that money's being stolen. Many people have heard my podcast with Breedlove. I told you how they're tapering the Ponzi scheme. That's part of the story. But let's be very clear. The same way I went after your co-host is the same way I go after Kathleen Austin Fitz. She thinks Bitcoin's no good. Well, guess what? Then I can't fucking give her any oxygen. Why? Because what is she going to do? She's going to keep you on fiat. She's going to keep you in the bond market. She's going to keep you on the BIS plan. Well, dude, tell me what her plan is. Because she has none. So I'm out on that. David J. Reilly [ 01:14:00 ] Yep. No, I think; I mean, she read Roger Ver's book? Jack Kruse [ 01:14:04 ] And I think Roger Ver is a fucking idiot too. David J. Reilly [ 01:14:06 ] Yeah. Yeah. Jack Kruse [ 01:14:07 ] It's another guy that, you know, thought, that the consensus in bitcoin like his consensus was Satoshi's vision, well what is the what is the normies in bitcoin um told you about Roger's view of the world? They've literally, from 2017 to right now, completely rejected it. SPEAKER_6 [ 01:14:31 ] True. Jack Kruse [ 01:14:31 ] These are the smartest people in the world who own Bitcoin, who are free to maximize said, Roger, we don't see Bitcoin the way you do. Therefore, you can stick with your hard fork. And I'm going to ask you now as the host of this show, can you tell me? Because hopefully you own Bitcoin at that time. What did you get from the hard fork of Roger Ver's version of Bitcoin? David J. Reilly [ 01:14:54 ] Jack shit, I mean thank you, thank you, that's that's it, but guess what? Jack Kruse [ 01:14:59 ] You made the diagnosis. But see here's the thing: I say this to your audience because I want them to understand why I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't want you to think these are Jack Cruz's opinions. These are first-principle ideas. I want to show you why I think the way I think. And then you can criticize me. I'm okay; I'm a big boy. I don't. Don't worry about the criticism; what I care about is I care about your freedom more than you care about your freedom, That's the way I look at this. David J. Reilly [ 01:15:31 ] We have another one from Tiger Shark who sent $50. Thank you very much. Who controls Bitcoin? No one knows, but likely central banks. It's a speculative asset until the rug pull and El Salvador may be a safe haven until Bukele is removed by the powers that be. Jack, agree on most, but I think you've bet the farm on the wrong horses. Great chat. The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse Jack Kruse [ 01:15:54 ] Yeah, I would say, you know, have fun staying poor, you know? I think that the people who uh made or control Bitcoin are me and everybody who has some of it in their own wallet-we, we are Bitcoin; the people are Bitcoin. We've voted for our own freedom, so if you somehow think that some other central entity is better than us, the decentralized savages. I have no problem with your decision, but you also have to realize that I'm going to come on podcasts like this and I'm going to fucking rip your carotid arteries out. David J. Reilly [ 01:16:31 ] Let's see here. We've got one over on Entropy from Barefoot in the Kitchen. For Dr. Jack, is there a link between blue light and the rise of ADHD? It seems as if every other person these days seems to have it now. What do you recommend for those struggling with ADHD? Jack Kruse [ 01:16:46 ] Fabulous question. Yes, the link is a guy named John Ott. He did something called the Sarasota School Experiment. Believe it or not, you can still search it on Wikipedia. Who was he? He was a time-lapse photographer of Disney. For those of you probably too young to remember, they had some original Disney stuff in the 60s and 70s that showed flowers blooming. And what he started to do from that experience is he started to turn the camera on all things that were living, not just flowers. And one of the most interesting experiments that he ever did was he went into Sarasota, Florida. He relocated, started a light bulb factory down there. But he got the permission from the Sarasota school board to go in. And he filmed kids that had their windows down, the shades down with the lights on. And you could see the kids all acting bizarrely. And this is in 1976, 77. The second party turns the cameras off, opens the windows up, opens the shade up, and turns the lights out. All the kids' behavior normalizes. Why don't many of your audience members know about this? Do you know who canceled John Ott and all this research? Big Pharma, specifically Pfizer and GE. Why? Because they made light bulbs. And what was that transition happening in 70s? We were moving from incandescent lights to LEDs with the story that we were saving electricity. But what we really were doing, this was the original genesis of what MKUltra found out, that if you put people in blue light, you make them controllable. David J. Reilly [ 01:18:20 ] Wow, yeah, no, I've heard you talk about that. whole Wi-Fi thing. But Dr. Cruz, I believe that concludes the questions that we have from the audience for you. The rest of it is mostly super chats berating me. Good. So we're not going to bother you with that. We'll work through some of those. But I wanted to thank you so much for coming on. It's been a pleasure. And if it is at all possible, I would like to bring Max on because I've got some questions. Jack Kruse [ 01:18:56 ] I'll let him listen to this. If he liked what he heard, even if maybe if he didn't like what he didn't hear, I think Max and I are kind of cut from the same cloth that we're trying to get people to open their mouths. I'm a little bit more forceful than Max is. Max is more of a showman. I just don't have time for bad thinking because I don't think we have as much time left as everybody else thinks. David J. Reilly [ 01:19:20 ] Yeah, no, I think that we're headed for some bad shit in this country and we need to be prepared. So thank you so much for joining us today, Dr. Cruz. Rebecca Hargraves The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse [ 01:19:27 ] Thank you. All right. David J. Reilly [ 01:19:28 ] Take care. Bye-bye. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:19:30 ] Alright, there we go. Are you fucking kidding me, Dave? What? David J. Reilly [ 01:19:39 ] I haven't spoken in 20 minutes. I was like, 'I'm not even.' Alright. Now we're going to go through all the mean comments that you sent. So hold on a second. Let me go back to the beginning. Mermaid Marie sent $50. I tuned in to see if the smoke did damage to Rebecca's hair. Alas, she is perfect. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:20:00 ] Thank you so much. $50? Thank you. David J. Reilly [ 01:20:02 ] Yes. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:20:04 ] Off most about that interview was that he was acting like I thought that Iran; I couldn’t even get a word in edgewise by the way, like, like I was acting or he was saying that I’m a normie, like I was acting like this Iran thing was um, we we had no idea that this wasn’t because of nuclear weapons, we did a whole fucking show on that, I know a whole show on that, um, don't take it personal, how can I not take that personally? He wouldn't even say my name. David J. Reilly [ 01:20:28 ] Right. He did call you the co-host. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:20:29 ] I've never been so insulted on my own platform ever before in my life. David J. Reilly [ 01:20:33 ] Max, if you're listening to this, no more Bitcoin guests. We can just do the interview one-on-one on my Twitter. Oh, yeah. It'll be fine. That'll be fine. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:20:42 ] That's exactly what's going to happen. David J. Reilly [ 01:20:43 ] Fucking serious. We had one from Book Track Grooves. What are your thoughts on how to get calcium, bone broth, and whole milk? I have heard people take pills for calcium and they have more heart disease. But yeah, we didn’t read that one. We read that one. Reinhardt sent $10. Thank you, Reinhardt. With all due respect, where is this magical sanctuary that you can't be shot within, you idiot? The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:21:11 ] I know, I just reject this idea that El Salvador is safer than Coeur d'Alene. Also, he has no racial consciousness. I should have all said this to him, but I just didn't have the balls. I just didn't feel like dealing with it. So I said nothing. And I sat here literally biting my tongue. David J. Reilly [ 01:21:26 ] I saw that. Hey, listen. You get to pick. You've already picked all of the guests for July. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:21:34 ] That's true. I think we have one week open. David J. Reilly [ 01:21:36 ] Yeah, true. I'll have to get a Bitcoin round. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. We read that one. Let me go here, Page three, Fatto Thornton. Shadow Sorcerer with a lisp. Could you please read gods of the copy book hearings on stream? What? Let me read that again. Shadow Sorcerer with a Lisp, could you please read 'Gods of the Copybook Headings' on stream? Well, thank you for the big $50 super chat. I have no earthly fucking clue what that means. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:22:12 ] Let me read it again. David J. Reilly [ 01:22:13 ] Shadow Sorcerer with a lisp. Could you please read 'Gods of the Copybook Headings' on stream? I guess is that the chapters of? God's of the Copybook. Are we going to sit here and Google this? Yes. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:22:28 ] The 'Gods of the Copybook Headings' is a poem by Rudyard Kipling. Ah, okay. David J. Reilly [ 01:22:34 ] Got it. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:22:35 ] We can do that. David J. Reilly [ 01:22:35 ] Yeah, if you want to pull it up. Your prose is much better than mine. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:22:39 ] Oh, you're going to kiss my ass now, are you? David J. Reilly [ 01:22:42 ] I feel so bad about this because this is going to, see, Max is going to hate me now. I've like looked up to Max Keiser. That's why you feel bad? I feel so bad because I've looked up to Max Keiser The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse for like 10 years ever since he brought Jamie Dimon on his show. He's like ripping up dollar bills. He's fucking fantastic. And now he's going to, you know, see me reading all of these awful things about Dr. Cruise. And anyway. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:23:03 ] The problem here is that we're insulting Dr. Cruise too much. That's the problem. That's your takeaway from this. David J. Reilly [ 01:23:11 ] Reinhardt sent $25. That's about enough of CPT Boomer. I gave him a good, honest listen, and he's been disrespectful, condescending, and couldn't even be bothered to put on a fucking shirt. And ultimately, he's a coward and a traitor that fled his home. Thank you for the big super chat, Reinhardt. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:23:26 ] I tried to ask him about the racial consciousness thing, and I just was going to get attacked, so I just – It's okay. David J. Reilly [ 01:23:33 ] Reinhart sent $10. With enough Bitcoin, you can defeat the US government. We've reached full schizo levels of boomer delusion. Thank you for the super chat, Reinhart. Uh, we did the electricity one, J Ridge 30, Catherine Austin Fitz. We did that one. Reinhardt, send $10. Day of the Pillow. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:24:13 ] Okay, the thing about, we've talked before, like my family, we've talked about retreating to a different country, but I will not move anywhere where I'm a visible minority. I won't do it. I want to live amongst white people. Also, El Salvador could destabilize. Pretty much at any time. I understand that it's a chaotic situation in the United States, but that is not really an option. For us. David J. Reilly [ 01:24:37 ] I do think that it's going to get worse here. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:24:39 ] Of course it's going to get worse here. David J. Reilly [ 01:24:41 ] I've liked, I think I've said this before that I've liked honestly looked into the Shared Values Passport with Russia. Yeah. Like, not that Russia is the best place in the world either, but it's going to get bad. But their government could also murder you too. Why can't we all be nice? I think that like, you know, we should prepare gold, silver, Bitcoin, lead. These are all essentials if you are trying to prepare for what's coming in the future. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:25:04 ] That was a really bad way to convince people to buy Bitcoin. David J. Reilly The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse [ 01:25:08 ] He wanted to punch you in the face. So it's okay. Fourth from the sun. Sent $10. Going to have to skip over the libertarian garbage on the replay. Sorry, not sorry. We learned in COVID that the masses won't rise up and people don't want freedom; they want security and free stuff. Your stuff. Whatever, man. Yeah. I mean, and, but I mean, Dr. Cruz does have a good point about COVID that it was basically targeted to like kill boomers and prevent them from being able to like take out their IRAs. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:25:40 ] Fine. Okay. But I think the point about freedom is it's a good one. People do not want freedom. It comes with a level of responsibility that the average person cannot withstand. And if I'm being totally truthful, freedom isn't my number one goal here. I mean, I would choose tyranny if it made a functional society. Right. Every time. But I am a woman, so. David J. Reilly [ 01:26:04 ] You are a woman. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:26:05 ] And an e-girl. I will, I'm, I'm at my, I'm having the worst day. This is just the worst. Oh, no. David J. Reilly [ 01:26:13 ] Reinhardt sent $10. Run away. Abandon all. Drop your weapons and flee before it's too late. Come seek refuge in this temporary safety of the brown shithole that will revert to the mean as soon as Bukele leaves power. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:26:24 ] Yeah, I mean, how, he says he's got 20 years in, 70. David J. Reilly [ 01:26:28 ] He said 70. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:26:29 ] In El Salvador? David J. Reilly [ 01:26:30 ] Yeah, 50 to 70 is what he said. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:26:32 ] How could you possibly know that? David J. Reilly [ 01:26:35 ] I think that. If they killed Bukele, it's going to be fucked pretty quickly. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:26:42 ] Okay, it took two to three months to get to the state of safety. Let's say that it takes a third of the time to revert back to chaos, that's a month. The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse David J. Reilly [ 01:26:52 ] Well, look, I don't know. I don't know about El Salvador. I mean, I've got people on both sides that, you know, some people say that El Salvador is awesome and based and wonderful. And then I've got other people that are warning me that it's turning into an Israeli penal colony and that you've got all of these Jews running all over the place, like Howard Lutnick, like Mayor Mizrahi. And, you know, so I don't know. I was trying to get to the bottom of it here with a couple of those questions. Let's pray that Max Keiser comes on because we could ask Max about this. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:27:23 ] Mrs. Reinhart just texted me and she said, 'You okay, boo?' Most of this is just allergies from the smoke. David J. Reilly [ 01:27:30 ] Stop simping for her, for God's sake! I will say, though, that I think this interview did beat the Basil interview as far as donations are concerned. So, you know, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. There is a silent majority that loved him. No, I'm kidding. The deep state sent $20. Trump didn't call out Mossad and the CIA. Even recently, he was buddy-buddy with Epstein. He's an ultra-Zionist. Also, why is Cruz? Fact. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:27:58 ] We were not going to ask him that. David J. Reilly [ 01:27:59 ] We weren't going to ask him that. Also, I couldn't see his body, so I can't make that determination. He was not wearing a shirt, by the way, because he is soaking up the sun, which helps fix your mitochondria. So please, everybody, when you're done with this stream, log off, go outside, get some sun, get some red light, and get healthy. I mean, you've got to watch his 21 biohack tips or whatever from Prague. It was really good. organized effort believing hard enough if we all just own enough Bitcoin and collectively without any leadership or organization overthrow this organized system is foolish. Listen. I'm not gonna, I want to go off on that one but I'm not going to Because Rebecca will kill me. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:28:44 ] I truly will. David J. Reilly [ 01:28:46 ] He's right, though. We're in a death spiral. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:28:48 ] Oh, I know. But how many times has Cameron said that? A pet peeve of mine is being presented information not only as though I'm not well-versed on it, but as though I have no knowledge on it. And we've talked about all these things ad nauseum on our show. True. But what's he supposed to do? Your co-host. He's supposed to give me the benefit of the doubt about being knowledgeable on these talking points, which I am; true. David J. Reilly The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse [ 01:29:15 ] I'm sorry that your feelings are hurt. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:29:17 ] don't even give me that okay it is not my feelings this is a platform that we have created and i would and i would never go on somebody else's platform and be disrespectful to the host i think it's crass i would never do that you are right about that i would just i would just trust that they had some knowledge But based on me having no Bitcoin and for what it's worth, one lone shooter does not does not. David J. Reilly [ 01:29:42 ] That is like so outside of the norm. And we're going to get into that in a little bit. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:29:46 ] Because this is these are white people that I live amongst. I have a sense of community here. I do not regret moving here. And in no in no world situation am I moving to a brown country. I mean, it's just not going to fucking happen. David J. Reilly [ 01:29:59 ] We're going to talk. We'll talk about the shooter thing in a bit, because I mean, like that is not something that can be planned for or accounted for. And Coeur d'Alene is not like living in Chicago or New York where you can get hit by a straight bullet or something like that. This was so far outside. That was exactly what he said, too. I know, I know. It was so far outside of the norm of what's going on. And I think that there's some fishy shit about what happened yesterday. Deep State sent $10. If he wants to punch me in the mouth, I'll gladly arrange a ring match. Oh, the suspect here? That guy doesn't look white. That ain't the suspect. Really? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:30:29 ] That's what one person tweeted at me. David J. Reilly [ 01:30:32 ] Please text that to me because I was trying to find that information literally just came out before we went on the air. So please send that to me at 7:26 a. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:30:41 ] m.? I don't know. People are saying, 'I don't know where you found this.' David J. Reilly [ 01:30:44 ] Anonymous sent $10. Imagine being Dave and thinking, 'I should bring on a fat boomer to lecture us about worship of money and berate Rebecca the whole time.' I think our viewers will like this. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:30:54 ] Exactly. David J. Reilly [ 01:30:55 ] Thank you, Anonymous. Fourth from the Sunset, $5. The libertarian mindset of an unorganized popular uprising is visually represented in a video of 100 kids versus three professional The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse soccer players in Japan. The kids lose easily to a superior strategy, an organized strategy, and teamwork. Yeah, no qualms there. By the way, I did not think that he would be coming on and berating Rebecca, to be quite honest. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:31:20 ] To be fair, I have heard from people. Somebody messaged me and they were like, 'if you come in unprepared, He will eviscerate you.' So we did a lot of preparation for the podcast. We did. But I didn't expect to be reached with such antagonism. I never would have told him that I no longer have Bitcoin. If I knew that that was going to be the response. David J. Reilly [ 01:31:35 ] Yeah, true. That was my fault. I outed you on that. I apologize. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:31:39 ] I would have said the same thing. David J. Reilly [ 01:31:41 ] But technically we do have Bitcoin because you can donate to The Backlash at thebacklash. net/slash/ donate and we accept Bitcoin. We do have a little bit of a Bitcoin treasury. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:31:49 ] To be fair, I think that our audience does enjoy it when we have some antagonistic interviewers. I do think so. Or interviewees. David J. Reilly [ 01:31:57 ] Yeah, it's fun. I'm having fun. I'm having a great time. Wonderful. It's called infotainment. Anyway, BoJack420 sent $5. Hope y'all are safe from the fires. Yes. We also got Kassler777. Been following Jack Cruz's teachings for six months. Scientifically fascinating. Great guests, Backlash. Totally mixed bag. Cannot trust the chat. Yes, you can't. In any way. BookTrackRoofs sent $10 on Rumble. Dave, I got X now. I'll try to DM you. Blonde, did you check out my music? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:32:34 ] What? No. I don't think so. David J. Reilly [ 01:32:37 ] BookTrackRoofs, please tag me in a post. If you can't DM me, tag me in a post. Say, hey, this is BookTrackRoofs. And then we can start a conversation on X. We asked that. We asked that. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:32:50 ] Tell Dave that future guests have to be 60 or younger. David J. Reilly [ 01:32:53 ] 60 or younger. Rebecca Hargraves The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse [ 01:32:55 ] Okay. David J. Reilly [ 01:32:57 ] Let me just check our Bitcoin server and see if we got anything there. Ah, we did. We got a $10 donation. Thank you very much. And of course, here it is. Oh, wrong one. This one. This is from Anonymous. Please, no to Max. He is just as much of a self-righteous narcissistic charlatan. Okay, fine. I mean, if you don't want to have Max on the show. Your $10 really fucking convinces me. Good Lord, don't insult the audience. Sorry. Thank you for the big Bitcoin super chat. We appreciate it. And then we have somebody who said this Bitcoin is for Blonde. Dave, no more Boomer race traders. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:33:41 ] That's fair. David J. Reilly [ 01:33:42 ] We have another Bitcoin super chat. Look at that. Yeah. See, this is what I'm talking about, blonde. You just trust the plan. Okay. Trust the plan. Say 'Goosefraba' a little bit. This one coming from anonymous. When lightning support is provided, we will be getting lightning support on the crypto super chat server. As soon as I can figure out how to hook it up with my Zeus wallet. So that'll be fun. Okay, now that all those super chats are over, we're going to give you a second chance to send even more super chats, and you can tell us how much you either loved or hated Dr. Cruz. But first, we have to talk about our sponsors, which is also going to get us in hot water with the Bitcoin community, because one of our sponsors is our dearly beloved Atlas Bullion. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:34:29 ] I just reject that buying gold is a bad idea. David J. Reilly [ 01:34:32 ] I think it's a good idea. I think that having a little bit of gold, a little bit of silver, a little bit of Bitcoin, a lot of lead, these are good things to have. So, atlasbullion. com slash backlash. If you would like to protect your wealth, protect your work, protect your money, and time, one of the ways that you can do that is by buying gold and silver. They have monthly silver subscriptions, gold subscriptions with plans as low as $55 a month. Month all the way up to ten thousand dollars a month if you have that kind of money to burn. We would appreciate it uh if you if you bought gold and silver from Atlas Bullion. They also have a way to roll over your IRA and 401(k). Uh, so if you would like to buy gold and silver, you can do so. You can go to the backlash. net and under our affiliate links, it's the very first one, Gold and Silver. And uh, anything that you buy from Atlas Bullion will go to subsidize this podcast. We also have partnerships with River Bitcoin. If you are convinced by Dr. Cruz that Bitcoin is the right way to go, it is, by the way. Buy some fucking Bitcoin, idiots! You can do that under our affiliate links with River Bitcoin. And if you would like to protect your Bitcoin once you own it, you can get a Blockstream Jade Plus. We also get, I think, 10% commission on every Bitcoin wallet that we sell. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:35:55 ] Sorry, I'm just trying to find out if this is the real shooter. David J. 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Help us help our people. Excuse me. By checking out companies that share our values and work to preserve the birthright of our history, visit AntelopeHillPublishing. com. And don't forget, for any Bitcoiners that are still with us in here, I don't know if there are. I think that we've scared them off by now. But North Idaho Tallow Company does have a Bitcoin shop with BTC Pay Server. And if you want to buy some skin products or soaps, or whatever you can avoid paying shipping by paying with bitcoin on uh IdahoTallow. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:37:59 ] com, soon. The interview was disaster. David J. Reilly [ 01:38:04 ] Wonderful. This is great. Well, Hey, look, I got two out of three, three out of four of the interviews this month were really good. No, it's okay. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:38:15 ] I should have pushed back and not just said a bunch of stuff after he was offline. That's kind of a bullshit thing to do. But I am a weak woman, and I just didn't feel like getting into some kind of argument. I just didn't feel like it today. Yeah. No, it's okay. David J. Reilly [ 01:38:27 ] Now, listen, we do have to cover this before we go. There was some crazy fucking shit that happened. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:38:33 ] I can't find any confirmation that this is the shooter. I mean, Wes Roley seems to be what Twitter is saying. He's from Arizona. He does not really look white. David J. Reilly [ 01:38:43 ] Okay, hold on a second here. So first of all, this is the view. This was the view from like my backyard yesterday, right? We saw this plume of smoke going up and it's like, okay, what the heck is going on out yonder? Hold on, let me. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:38:58 ] I don't want to self-docs, but you can find my. David J. Reilly [ 01:39:01 ] It doesn't matter. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:39:02 ] It doesn't matter because you can find my information if you look for it. So close to my house that my street was blocked off, right? You were within the lockdown zone and I had a The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse shelter-in-place order, yes, and at the time my husband wasn't home so I was just home alone with the baby, right. So I was really worried; I was like, 'Is the fire gonna... I was actually more worried about the fire. David J. Reilly [ 01:39:27 ] So what happened was there were shots fired with firefighters down on Canfield Avenue, uh, crews were evacuating and law enforcement avoiding the area last night. So this was like early on, but basically what happened is if you look here, um, the fire was intentionally set to draw in firefighters, the firefighters are then pinned down and being shot at by this crazy arson ambush person. The day progressed and many, many of these firefighters got hit. Two of them tragically died. And, you know, this was developing into what would have been like a multi-day issue. Later in the evening, the sheriff announced that the person was found dead with a gun and that the threat was over. And this is the most kind of recent thing that has come out, that the sniper who lured hundreds of firefighters into a deadly ambush last night has been named as somebody named Wes Rowley. Now, I don't know about that. But it is interesting, right? There's a lot of people also on Twitter that are pointing out that our sheriff was trained by Mossad. Yes. And that is true, but I like Sheriff Norris. If I said that he was a friend of mine, that would probably get him into trouble, so I won't say that. But. I think he's done a wonderful job as sheriff. He stood up against the COVID shit. He's kept our county safe. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:41:15 ] Assad, though. David J. Reilly [ 01:41:17 ] Ooh. Is that standard? They train every fucking buddy. The ADL trains everybody in the FBI and the police chiefs of every police department. That looks AI. That looks fake. Yeah, but this doesn't look fake. Can you please DM that to me so I can show our audience what we're looking at here? Sure. This is not so. Let's see. Is it in the group chat? No. No, it's not in the group chat. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:41:46 ] I will do that now. David J. Reilly [ 01:41:48 ] What, on Telegram? Oh, okay. So anyway, now the thing that's crazy about this whole thing is that yesterday what we were hearing about the situation is that there was multiple shooters. Multiple shooters. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:42:01 ] That's why I was worried. David J. Reilly [ 01:42:02 ] And then all of a sudden the police come out and say, 'We got him.' There was one guy. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:42:08 ] There was one guy, right. David J. Reilly The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse [ 01:42:09 ] Now, putting my evil hat on, putting on my conspiracy theory hat, what are the odds? That you know, jeepers. What are the odds that like, I don't know, some foreign agency or like some sort of like, you know, evil intelligence group actually did have an ambush with a bunch of people. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:42:34 ] Right. David J. Reilly [ 01:42:35 ] And then dumped a dead body of somebody that's like a right-wing extremist. Right. And then they get to go, 'Oh, see, look, you know, this was a white supremacist terrorism, bro.' Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:42:45 ] Does that kid look white to you? SPEAKER_3 [ 01:42:47 ] This kid? Really? David J. Reilly [ 01:42:48 ] This is who they say did it? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:42:50 ] He's 20. And I assume that picture was from when he was younger. Bro, I don't buy it. And he's from Arizona. David J. Reilly [ 01:42:57 ] They said that he was in camouflage. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:43:00 ] They said they were in camouflage, that they were spotted in camouflage. David J. Reilly [ 01:43:04 ] But that was early reporting. This is breaking. Idaho shooter's name is Wes Rowley. Early reports suggest both parents were massive Trump supporters. I had to guess this is classic rebellion against conservative parents. Just a nut job extremist. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:43:18 ] I hate this lone wolf stuff. Also, why is it taking so long to get the identity out? This happened. David J. Reilly [ 01:43:24 ] Well, maybe his face was blown off. Now, there is also something that bears or is worth, you know, talking about here. And that is this: absolute crock of shit. Right. Some Jewish account called pamphlets was out immediately, like, as this was happening, before the guy was killed, before anybody had any information about this, saying, 'Breaking,' Aryan Nations and Idaho Neo-Nazi group claimed responsibility for the terrorist attack that killed two firefighters. Excuse me, but the Aryan The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse Nations hasn't existed in over 20 fucking years. They aren't up here. There aren't, in fact, a bunch of, like, white supremacists, hiding behind every blade of grass. It's not, yeah. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:44:15 ] They got driven out of North Idaho. I don't think any of them still exist anymore. David J. Reilly [ 01:44:19 ] No, they don't. They don't. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:44:20 ] You know, they're in Mississippi now. David J. Reilly [ 01:44:22 ] Ah. Yeah. I thought that was Texas. Is it? Let's blame Texas. Fine. But yeah, this was some images from the scene yesterday. You can see the massive police response. Hundreds and hundreds of police. I took my daughter to that park. I used to play frisbee golf there. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:44:37 ] Oh, yeah. They have a pickleball court. SPEAKER_3 [ 01:44:40 ] But yeah, look at this crap. The Aryan Nation is a white supremacist, neo-Nazi, Christian identity-based organization that has been headquartered in North Idaho for several decades. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:44:49 ] These people must not actually think that the Aryan Nation still exists here. Everybody knows it doesn't. David J. Reilly [ 01:44:53 ] Well, here's what you get, right, when you're a little bit more discerning on X. I'm actually Jewish. What a surprise. What a giant surprise that the person pushing this disinformation is Jewish. Oh, also, Laura Loomer was out yesterday saying that this was Iranian sleeper cells. That is so retarded. So retarded. Yeah, it was talking about how like, oh, there's an ISIS cell in Coeur d'Alene, you know, and it's like, actually, let me pull up the tweet. Laura Loomer. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:45:26 ] Little Miss Wet Bread with her. David J. Reilly [ 01:45:28 ] Bro, she is nuts. Yeah, here it is, right? Uh, this post is unavailable whatever, but she was out with this thing: Team with Islamic State ties accused of planning attack on Coeur d'Alene churches. That was FBI nonsense. This was the FBI. And we've got reporting on that from Idaho Tribune actually right right here on that exact post. This young man was groomed by the FBI. This is not credible reporting, Laura Loomer. And you can see: That the FBI's confidential human source gave this guy, Alex Mercurio, the ISIS flag that was found at his home. They groomed him as a 16-year-old into pledging his allegiance to ISIS. So, no, I'm sorry. There is no fucking Iranian sleeper cell in North Idaho The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse that is committing goofy atrocities against, like, firefighters. No, why? Why would they do that? What the fuck is wrong with you people? Please don't be so stupid. So, anyway, it was an exceptional 12 hours here in North Idaho. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:46:31 ] It was just so bizarre. David J. Reilly [ 01:46:32 ] Yeah. You know, this crazy fucker, whoever it was, or fuckers. You know, and you were showing me people that were talking about like van fulls of people, suspicious people. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:46:45 ] But we get that every year. David J. Reilly [ 01:46:47 ] Yeah. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:46:47 ] We get migrants. So I think that that's almost certainly unrelated. It was just migrants. David J. Reilly [ 01:46:52 ] That might have been migrants. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:46:53 ] We get Guatemalan migrants that are like dropped off in vans at the Home Depot. Yeah. And then they're here for June and July every single year. David J. Reilly [ 01:47:01 ] Yeah. But yeah. So anyway, if you go on my Twitter, if you are interested in hearing more about this whole thing, Twitter space for a long time yesterday uh reporting as it happened and so you're you're gonna have the best coverage of this whole thing uh through diligent denizen on X, it's on my feed a lot of history a lot of really interesting stuff. Yeah, here's some more pictures of where this happened. Canfield Mountain. Over by Coeur d'Alene, there were helicopters. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:47:34 ] It's so bizarre to see this. When you texted me yesterday, I was like, 'What?' And then I started hearing sirens, and then there's a chopper over my house. David J. Reilly [ 01:47:42 ] Yep. Did you hear the F-15? Yeah. There was like an F-15 doing circles. I think that was unrelated, though. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:47:48 ] And then everything was just filled with smoke. The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse David J. Reilly [ 01:47:50 ] Yeah. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:47:51 ] And then I'm getting a shelter-in-place order as I see my neighborhood just get filled up with smoke, and I'm like, 'What?' I didn't know what to do. I literally asked Twitter. David J. Reilly [ 01:47:59 ] What do I do? What do I do? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:48:01 ] Because my husband wasn't home and he was unreachable. David J. Reilly [ 01:48:03 ] You don't like walking around your house with a gun on all the time? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:48:07 ] No. David J. Reilly [ 01:48:07 ] Why not? Because I'm a woman with young children. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:48:11 ] You get a little gun. I don't know, man. You just get a little one, a pink one. They sell pink ones at the gun store. I will agree with Dr. Cruz on this. What situation are we living in when like a mom of young children has to be strapped inside her house that is so fucked up? David J. Reilly [ 01:48:25 ] Yeah. But again, this is not like Chicago. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:48:31 ] Norm, that's the normal uh thing yeah, but I don't want to be in that situation and I don't have the firearms training to make the risk assessment worth it for me to think. It's more likely that I have a negligent discharge or my kid gets the gun than it is that somebody breaks into my house, see? David J. Reilly [ 01:48:47 ] And this is why we need the audience's help; we need you to send us 15 bitcoin, yeah, really, so we can buy this can bug out when the Mossad agents come. Speaking of Mossad agents coming, we have some interesting stuff here too. Where is it? Everybody enjoying looking at all my bookmarks? It is kind of weird, right, that this IDF agent Amir Sarfati just arrived in Coeur d'Alene yesterday. People are pointing that out on the internet. It's just a weird, bizarre, interesting thing that you've got this-I'm sure the left is going to spin this. IDF agent coming to visit all the Zionist churches in Coeur d'Alene at the same exact time that all of this pops off. But I will say, like I said, to Jake Shields and Sam Parker and everybody who might be watching, yeah, our sheriff was trained by the Mossad, but-But he is pro-gun. He is pro-freedom. He has done an exceptional job over the past five or six The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse years. Wonderful sheriff. 10 out of 10 would vote for him again. And I think that he was honest, open, transparent, and forthright about the situation as it was happening. So I couldn't have asked for anything more. He did a great job. Thank you for keeping us safe. Sheriff Norris, I do appreciate it. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:50:19 ] I don't know about that. It remains to be seen, Sheriff Norris. David J. Reilly [ 01:50:23 ] I'm sucking up to him. Why? Why not? He's the sheriff. He's the only thing that stands between me and like the FBI kicking down my door. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:50:32 ] I need to know more about him before I kiss his ass. Also, I don't really want to kiss anybody's ass. David J. Reilly [ 01:50:36 ] Yeah. Today doesn't seem like a good day for you to be kissing people's asses. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:50:39 ] I am just deflated. David J. Reilly [ 01:50:41 ] I'm so sorry. I didn't. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:50:42 ] No, it's okay. You know, some of us pick guests and I pick guests sometimes. You pick guests sometimes. I just didn't expect to be. It was such boomer-tard stuff. David J. Reilly [ 01:50:53 ] Punched in the face. But he's right about Bitcoin. He's not right. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:50:57 ] He's not right about being out of debt. What do you mean? I freed myself from debt slavery with my Bitcoin. That counts for something. True, I am 37. I have a young family and I carry zero debt, nothing. I don't have a mortgage. I don't have credit cards. I've got no debt. David J. Reilly [ 01:51:16 ] This is where I would like tactically disagree. And I think Cameron might too, because owning a home is a liability, not an asset, right? Like your house wants to return to dust. You have to expend money and energy to keep it from deteriorating. The second law of thermodynamics is happening. So if we have dollars that are being printed ad infinitum they're devaluing and debasing constantly. Why would I want to pay off the house when I could hold an asset that is guaranteed basically to go up forever? I would rather take the 3% loan And then use that money to buy Bitcoin. No, the loan would have been 7%. Oh, well, that sucks. Rebecca Hargraves The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse [ 01:51:57 ] I've got 3%. Bitcoin is not guaranteed to go up in perpetuity. Yes, it is. No, there's absolutely no. It's mathematically certain. There is no investment that is guaranteed to go up in perpetuity that's retarded. Like that is like finance 101. David J. Reilly [ 01:52:12 ] No, no, no. It's like mathematically certain. If you have an asset, I mean, just like gold, as they print more money, gold becomes 1%. Worth more and more. Really, it might be staying the same. But denominated in dollars, the amount of dollars it takes to equal an ounce of gold keeps going up. Now, the difference between gold and Bitcoin is that we don't actually know how much gold there is in the world. There could be a fuckton more or a vein of gold that they find somewhere that winds up doubling or tripling the supply of gold or maybe a meteorite or something like that. With Bitcoin, you know that there's only 21 million of them. It's the only thing that is like infinitely scarce. That we actually know the entire quantity of and the way that it's being released over time with the inflation rate that it has, which is currently below 1% or at 1%. If they keep printing dollars, Bitcoin will be worth more in the future. It's a mathematical certainty. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:53:10 ] But it has no innate value. David J. Reilly [ 01:53:12 ] It does, as money. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:53:14 ] Yes, but it has no innate value above what fiat currency does, except for it is tradable in a more fractional way. David J. Reilly [ 01:53:22 ] Which means that it's more valuable than fiat. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:53:25 ] Yeah, but I'm saying that it doesn't have, it's not like it's gold-backed currency. It doesn't have the same kind of value. David J. Reilly [ 01:53:31 ] But that's the thing. The difference, that's why it makes it like such a pure monetary play. Because some people will think that my shiny gold rock is worth more than you think, right? Because of this whole intrinsic value bullshit. There is none of that with Bitcoin. It is pure monetary, purely as a money. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:53:49 ] If I acquire some Bitcoin. will you shut up about it yeah okay all right i'm in all right because the intrinsic value of bitcoin Is that you shut up then. SPEAKER_5 [ 01:54:00 ] Okay. The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:54:00 ] I'm in. All right. We've made an agreement. High five. There was something else I was going to say about this. I can't remember. David J. Reilly [ 01:54:06 ] Damn. We got some more super chats in that meantime. Anonymous sent $5. Whites are the Israelites. Once I realized this, everything else made sense. It's why the fake Jews hate them so much. Also, Rebecca is a natural blonde. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:54:18 ] I am a natural blonde, but I do get balayage. David J. Reilly [ 01:54:22 ] What the hell is that? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:54:23 ] So I dye my hair, but I'm also a natural blonde-lift to a nine. David J. Reilly [ 01:54:30 ] My wife is gray. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:54:32 ] That's okay. David J. Reilly [ 01:54:33 ] I know. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:54:33 ] That's good. I got a lot of grays, too. You just can't tell. David J. Reilly [ 01:54:36 ] I'm starting to get grays. I just found my first gray in my beard. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:54:38 ] Sorry about that. David J. Reilly [ 01:54:39 ] Thunderstorm, $0. 09, $2. So Bitcoin hates blonde. Thanks for the info. Kill Bitcoin. Thunderstorm nine also sent five dollars. Did anybody see Dave Portnoy get slapped with a slice of pizza? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:54:55 ] No, I watched it like five times yesterday. The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse David J. Reilly [ 01:54:58 ] Wait, how do I find this? What do I search? Dave Portnoy pizza... Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:55:02 ] uh, yeah, a lot of things might come up, but he gets slapped right in the face by a little Mexican guy with a piece of pizza. David J. Reilly [ 01:55:07 ] There it is, there it is! Hold on, let's see... Is he like bickering at him? Hold on a second. Hold on a second. SPEAKER_5 [ 01:55:31 ] Oh! One more guy named Andy. F**k you. Oh, s**t yeah, nice to meet you. What are you doing here? Okay. SPEAKER_4 [ 01:55:49 ] Oh, my God. The Dave Portnoy crash-out is real. It's so good, yeah. Holy s**t, this guy is off his rocker. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:55:58 ] See, it proves that money isn't everything, right? He's a billionaire, but he has no logos. He's devoid of humanity, and he's the laughingstock of Gen Z. And his life just sucks. David J. Reilly [ 01:56:12 ] Yeah. He did sh**tcoin. He didn't Bitcoin. He passed it up. Everybody told him to buy, and he didn't. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:56:19 ] But he's a multi-billionaire who gives a sh*t. David J. Reilly [ 01:56:21 ] Yeah, I hope he becomes like a multi-***king billionaire. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:56:24 ] Yeah, but what I wanted to say to Jack Cruz, but I wasn't going to. David J. Reilly [ 01:56:27 ] Holy sh**, I'm so stupid. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:56:28 ] Money is not everything either. Money isn't everything. It can help you buy freedom. It can sustain your family. But if you are living in a country where you can get attacked by brown hordes or, God forbid, Your children miscegenate. It's like, what does it matter if I'm super rich? Who gives a sh*t? David J. Reilly The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse [ 01:56:51 ] What I will say, and maybe we can talk about this with Cameron sometime, is that, like, I think that a lot of what happened, like why white nationalism exists and, like, the whole radical right wing in America exists from like a historical perspective. I do think that it goes back to 1971. I mean you can see like the Kootenai County Posse Comitatus started in 1974 as a response to what was happening. With the fucking economy they started, they took us off the gold standard; they started printing money and everything goes up divorce goes up, uh, fucking crime goes up, um, the savings went down. This website's really fascinating it's WTF happened in 1971. And so anyway, I do think that if we fix the money, we do fix the world. The ends aren't the money or being rich or any of that. To me, the ends are like not having my time stolen by rich finance Jews on Wall Street. Yeah, I'm with you there. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:58:01 ] But in in horseshoe theory and typical horseshoe theory, then everything becomes about the money. And is there anything more Jewish than that? David J. Reilly [ 01:58:10 ] Well, yeah. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:58:11 ] There are virtues and ancestry that need to be protected that are just more. And if the way to do that is through money, then all right, I'm in. But we can't lose sight of why we need the money. The reason that we need the money is to protect our land, ourselves, and our descendants. Yeah. And if it just becomes about money, then we are no better. Then the Jews. David J. Reilly [ 01:58:34 ] True. But I think that's what Cruz was talking about with this whole title thing. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:58:37 ] Was it Cruz? Was it? Bruh. David J. Reilly [ 01:58:40 ] Pick a fight with him when he's on the air. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:58:42 ] No way. He was just going to attack me. David J. Reilly [ 01:58:44 ] We're going to have a cage match between Blonde and Dr. Jack Cruz with baby oil. It is going to be pay-per-view only on our Patreon. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:58:53 ] Yeah, I would never. David J. Reilly The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse [ 01:58:55 ] I wouldn't do that for 50 million. That's equivalent to5 million dollars. Yeah. Canada Boy sent $40. You can ask Shiloh for help buying the missile base. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:59:04 ] Good, and she did exactly what she should do with the money, which is take it, fall off the map. David J. Reilly [ 01:59:11 ] Yeah, she should disappear. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:59:12 ] She has. What is she up to? I have no clue. She didn't use it to become a public figure. She's like, thanks. Peace. David J. Reilly [ 01:59:19 ] Peace out. Good for you, Shiloh. Bitcoin price moons, but the number no longer conveys value. Silver and gold don't have that problem. Sure. And if you want to buy silver and gold, you can do that at atlasbullion. com/slashbacklash. I think that was. you That was an episode, all right. That was an episode. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:59:55 ] Yeah, I'm going to go home, and I think I'm going to cry today. David J. Reilly [ 01:59:58 ] Oh, no. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:59:59 ] No, it's okay. You know, like once a month, I need to just have a good cry. David J. Reilly [ 02:00:03 ] Yeah, it's okay. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:00:04 ] And today's the day. David J. Reilly [ 02:00:06 ] So anyway, thank you for our guest, Dr. Jack Cruz, from coming on, and for our sponsors for making this show possible. Who is our guest next week? Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:00:17 ] We have Zach Logos on the 7th. David J. Reilly [ 02:00:19 ] Zach Logos is coming and joining us on the 7th. The Backlash - Episode 52-Zionism, Bitcoin, & The Medical Deep State wJack Kruse Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:00:24 ] We have Phil Turney, I believe, on the 14th. David J. Reilly [ 02:00:26 ] I thought you said it was Johannes from South Africa. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:00:28 ] Johannes from South Africa on the 14th. Correct. We have Phil Turney coming up and we have Arvel. So I have booked all of them. David J. Reilly [ 02:00:36 ] Coming on the 21st and then on the 28th would maybe be Phil Turney. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:00:41 ] Okay. David J. Reilly [ 02:00:41 ] If that gets hammered down. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:00:43 ] Let me text him right now. David J. Reilly [ 02:00:46 ] More Dave picks, more Dave picks happening, I guess, in August. There are quite a few people that I have in mind. Okay. So it'll be interesting. This back and forth, we're working on it. And of course, we'll be back on Wednesday with our normal show with Cameron McGregor. To talk about what the fuck is happening in the world right now. We will see you guys. It's all getting crazy. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:01:10 ] On Wednesday. Bye bye. David J. Reilly [ 02:01:12 ] Thanks.

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