Episode 56 — From Apartheid to Anarchy: The Untold Story of White South Africa w/ Johannes

Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes The Backlash-ep56- From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:02:45 ] Welcome to The Backlash. You can find us on X at realbacklash. com or realbacklash, our website, thebacklash. net. Support us on Subscribestar slash The Backlash, patreon. com slash The Backlash. Send your super chats and questions for our guests that will be read live at the end of our show to thebacklash. net slash super chat. Subscribe to us on YouTube, on our other platforms. We are at realbacklash on YouTube, on Rumble. Backlash podcast. Did I get everything? David J. Reilly [ 00:03:17 ] I think you did. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:03:18 ] I think I did. We had a rush start today, so I'm going to apologize to our audience. I just walked in the door. David J. Reilly [ 00:03:24 ] Somebody was a little late today. I was a little late to work. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:03:27 ] Thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you to our sponsors. We will talk about them at the end of the show. Atlas Bullion, Idaho Tallow, Antelope Hill, and without further ado, let's introduce our guests. This has been a long time in the making. Oh, no. Oh, my own voice. What a nightmare. The sound of listening to your own voice. It's just repellent. I don't know what it is. So squeaky. Johanna Sagenbach, he is a pro-white-boer activist, farmer. He does excellent work. Thank you so much for joining us. Johannes [ 00:04:03 ] Thank you very much. Good evening Rebecca, good evening Dave. Good morning. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:04:08 ] Oh, yeah. What time is it there? Yeah. Johannes [ 00:04:11 ] Good morning, I guess. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:04:14 ] We really appreciate you taking the time to talk to us and to update our audience on the situation in South Africa. There has not been a lot of chatter about it in the last. Oh, I don't know. When did Trump come out with all this stuff? It was two months ago. David J. Reilly [ 00:04:28 ] Yeah. Vince was still on the show. They were like playing Vince James's videos in the White House. Rebecca Hargraves The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes [ 00:04:37 ] I'm down here and I don't want people to forget what's going on. You need support and people need to know what you were dealing with. So let's just jump right into it. How do you define? Freedom for the Boer in the modern context of South Africa what does that look like to you? Johannes [ 00:04:57 ] In the modern context, I think we need to redefine the context first before we can define freedom. Because in the modern context, I don't believe that freedom is obtainable. I don't think that we can have freedom as the poor people in a multiracial country in which we are forced to basically share. A country with different people groups-there are 11 official languages and 11 could you say official recognized ethnicities, then, in this country, and that does not account for all the different peoples that are coming here as migrants, and they also get, you know, whole mystery dirt access to the human rights and the country's Constitution, and all of that stuff. So I don't think that we can really end this current state of South Africa have freedom as the Boer people. But what freedom for the Boer people would be is if we had the right to govern ourselves under the laws, under our own governing principles, in our own country, with a border, with our own military, with our own economy, in which we are not, in which we are completely autonomous from other countries. This would be freedom. And yes, I do believe that it is absolutely obtainable. In fact, I do not believe it's obtainable. I think it is our destiny. But the world has got a ways to go before that happens. But I think that the Boer people will be a spiritual predecessor to the rest of the white world or European world, if you want to. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:06:51 ] Can you talk a little bit about government policies like land reform and how that is fostering such a hostile environment for white farmers in particular in South Africa? Johannes [ 00:07:05 ] Oh, absolutely. But I think If we're going to talk about that, I'd have to start off with the history of South Africa. The whole debate on land ownership in South Africa is extremely nuanced but it's also very important and I feel that oftentimes it's over complicated to dissuade people from partaking in the conversation. Because there are really powerful people that want access to our minerals and access to our geographic location. So, there's obviously a lot of vested interest in keeping South Africa out of the hands of the Boer people or the Afrikaner people, however you'd like to define that. Um. I'll begin by saying how we got here. So basically the Portuguese circumvented the southernmost point of Africa in 1488. And a couple of years after that, the Dutch arrived in 1652. Now, almost immediately they started settling and cultivating the land and developing. They ran into a couple of nomad tribes here in South Africa and skirmishes did break out but to the effect where it was actually very one-sided. There was also I believe five to six instances of smallpox breaking out that almost nearly wiped out all of the Khoi Nson populations which were considered to be the natives of this country. Now. There were a lot of battles fought here for the control of the colony between the Dutch and the English, and while all of this took place or transpired, an entire different subculture was starting to form in its own right, which is known as the Afrikaner people, or as they then referred to themselves, the Freeburgers, people that had been set free from servitude of the Dutch East Indian Company. These people gradually moved in into the interior of the country where they encountered different peoples and had skirmishes. And they settled and built the country up until the English arrived here, along with you know, the people that have complete control of the diamond trade, which is actually, you know, the Oppenheimers in South Africa till this day. The Oppenheimers being Jewish family that came here before the turn of the century that completely monopolized the diamond trade. And to this day, if you were to find diamonds on your farm, a piece of privately owned farm or land, and you were to take that diamond, then you would actually be arrested by the state for stealing from a private company, which is the De Beers company. So, yes, I know that must be quite a shocking thing to hear for the Americans since, you know, you guys are allowed to drill oil and, you know, to. basically have access to gold that you would find on your private The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes property but here in south africa it doesn't work that way if you do that then you would be stealing from a private company and i want to emphasize that a private company that has absolutely got total control over the or authority over the state what about other resources the state oh it goes for all other resources basically um in 1906 1969 no 1996 sorry i think 1996 and 1993 they changed the constitution to where the farmers and the private individual only owns the top soil in south africa oh my god he's the top soil belongs to the government and the government belongs to the special interest groups the international finance fan financiers or you know Well, if you discovered resources, why would you even tell anybody? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:11:32 ] Do they do searches of property to see if you've discovered these resources? Johannes [ 00:11:37 ] Well, that's that's the thing so in South Africa they are finding all different tricks and maneuvers to excavate or not excavate but rather to survey if there is possibility of minerals and if they find minerals on your farm they can then expropriate it right now under the current law they can expropriate it if it is deemed to be in the good of the public oh my lord and the community the surrounding community but they want to push it to the point where they can expropriate it without compensation now it is well worth noting that this has got nothing to do with black grievances and everything to do with the mining companies why do I say that Because at the onset of the first Anglo-Boer War, the Boers obviously by the grace of God and by the you know by the efforts and their further they beat back the English and they formed that they unified a lot of the different because at that time there were many many different republics because we were still in an era of discovery, an era of conquest, where we were still you know becoming a people so to speak We had the Free State Republic, the Republic of Stalaland, we had the Republic of Transvaal, Natalia, and then there was the Cape Colony. But I'm not naming all the little different republics because a lot of people now say, You have to name all of them. But no, I'm only mentioning the major ones. Now, after the first Anglo-Boer War, they merged. A lot of the major ones into what is known as the Boer Republics, which is where the name the Boerevol or the Boer Nation is derived from, you know, and also which you'll hear it in stuff such as the Anglo-Boer War, the First and Second Anglo-Boer War, and the Great Boer Generals, you know. So, in the Second Anglo-Boer War, we did unfortunately lost because Lord Kitchener implemented what is known as the Scorched Earth Policy, forcing Boer women and children and put them into concentration camps to demoralize the men from waging the guerrilla war against the English. Now, there's obviously a lot more to say about that, and you can go into a lot more detail on that, but I'm just going to paint a broad brush and give you a broad perspective. Now, why do I say that having this historical context is very important? Because the Boers, when they went into the inland, large majority of this country's interior for themselves, and had independent states which they governed over. They fought to secure borders, driving from their land, from their republics, the black inhabitants, and making it white countries. As white as what England would have been in the 1800s, or Europe would have been, or America would have been in the 1800s, to give you the historical context. Now, after we lost the Second Anglo-World War, Unfortunately, when we signed the peace treaty, Lord Alfred Milner, and it is quoted in this book written by Dr. Mike Petui, it is called '1902 to 1994', which is just the pursuit and the struggle of our people in that time period, 1902 to 1994. And it says there in 1902, Alfred Milner said, It is no longer a war with bullets. This is after the peace treaty was signed. It is no longer a war with bullets, but it remains a war still. So they were fully, fully vested in, fighting a war against the Boers even after we had signed a peace treaty with them. Then Alfred Milner did something that totally changed the political landscape of South Africa, even till this day, and that makes it almost impossible for people to understand the complexities of this country and the apartheid policy, etc. He went and he started the Union of South Africa in 1910. The different borders that my people fought to secure between them and the blacks and merged us into one big country known as the Union of South Africa. That is where the apartheid movement was birthed. As a peaceful thing, to repatriate all the The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes people that had been forcibly, and I do say forcibly because they shot the Boers in the streets when they opposed this in riots and in marches. They shot them, simply, to ensure that this becomes a multiracial country. Now, what he then cleverly did is in 1911, he did the first census. And why that is significant is because in 1911, prior to 1911, in prior to the Anglo-Boer War and the scorched earth policy, 90% of the rural countryside was inhabited by my people. And 90% of the population, rather, inhabited rural countryside. So for every 10 people that there were, 9 people stayed in the countryside. Now, after the scorched earth policy, when they took the census in 1911, that changed that figure for the white population specifically, as is recorded. Changed to 48%. So now half of the people stayed in the metros and half of the people stayed in the rural countryside. Now this is significant. Because That's the war that I believe that Alfred Milner was alluding to when he said, it's no longer a war of the bullets, but it remains a war still. And I'll get into that now. And I apologize for the tirade, but I'll finish off now. Why it was so significant that they did the census in 1911 is because it created a false impression that the different people that were now being forced to live together inside this new concept, which is known as the Union of South Africa, had any bearing to the country and that they were a part of the country. So now all of a sudden South Africa had a majority black population, which was historically never the case. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:18:36 ] Right. I mean, I'm sure you know, but when we talk about apartheid in America, that the general understanding of apartheid is that it was just systematic oppression of the blacks so that the white people could gain more farmland. But that's not at all the case. And I think it was keeping some balance in terms of racial animus. Johannes [ 00:18:58 ] Oh, so the racial animosity was an all-time low with apartheid. But like I said, the apartheid policy was an attempt to repatriate all of the people that were forced together under the Union of South Africa. They wanted to return them to their homelands. Explicitly what the apartheid government was, and they wanted to do it in a peaceful manner right now obviously they would advertise it as the, you know, um systematic oppression of black people obviously they would do that because it creates a narrative onset for them by which they can disown us of this country in its entirety. And if they can do that to South Africa, then they can do it to Europe, which is why you see the same thing playing off in Europe and America right now. Thousands and thousands and thousands and millions and millions upon millions of non-white immigrants are flooding your countries. And they are going to be given birthright citizenship. And at a point in time, they can have your one man, one vote system voting system. And they will simply outnumber you and you won't be able to have your country anymore. So that's the same methodology that was used. David J. Reilly [ 00:20:21 ] Now, Johannes, I've got a couple of questions here. So the apartheid state of South Africa was established in 1948. Is that about the right time? I mean, according to whatever this is, that's about 1947, 1948. Johannes [ 00:20:38 ] 1948 that's when they officially won right right but there was there was small imp thanks to the works of general jrbm james barry munich hartsock which was a great general that fought the struggle on the political field for the were people and their recognition alone for a very long time and then he was joined by great men such as df malan And. and then he was succeeded by Later on, people like Hendrik Verwoerd. Now, officially, we gained power back from the English in 1948. Partially. Not only, but partially. But yeah, that is when apartheid officially started up until 1994. But. I want to talk a bit about the undoing of a potter. So You guys know that the ANC is the revolutionary party that The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes abolished, that fought for the abolition of apartheid, right? But the ANC was founded by Jewish people. In fact, Nelson Mandela, you guys know him as this heroic freedom fighter that fought for equality for all and freedom for all, right? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:22:09 ] I mean, not us, but generally. Johannes [ 00:22:13 ] Generally, the world was sold this lie, but Nelson Mandela was actually introduced into politics by a man known as, well, okay, you guys already know it. What am I doing here? Okay, awesome. This is amazing. This is amazing that you guys already know this. But actually, Nelson Mandela was introduced by a half-caste man known as Walter Sisulu. He was, I believe, to be the son, the best son of a Jew, which is what gave him access to, you know, the white side and the black side more easily. And he was also a lawyer. So he introduced Nelson Mandela to Lazar Sidelsky, a lawyer, and Nat Bregman, a comedian and radio personality. Okay? And from there he was encouraged or enticed to start the ANC Youth League in 1943. Now, this ANC Youth League went on to commit terrible atrocities and murder campaigns against the white South Africans. And the ANC got its freedom charter. And this freedom charter, which you can go look up yourself, is the basis on which expropriation without compensation ** is bold**. The idea that the land shall be owned by all. The idea that there will be no restriction to access to land. People can walk on your land as they see fit. Now, this Freedom Charter was drafted in 1955, in July, I believe. June 19**55**, yeah. By five individuals. Lionel Barry Rush. Lionel. Berenstain. Ethel Drist, Ru First, Alan Lipman, and Beata Lipman. Now, Beata Lipman was the one that originally wrote this manifesto, right, or this Freedom Charter. All of these individuals are Jewish. And all of these individuals came here after the Boers lost the Anglo-Boer War to the English. So they are all immigrants from Eastern Europe, barring Beata Lippmann, which was a German Jewess that came to South Africa. And it is they that gave the blacks in Kliptown, Soweto, in a meeting where there were 3,000 blacks present, they gave them this Freedom Charter. That headed organizations such as the Black Sash, which was a revolutionary women's organization to champion black people's rights. You had Jewish singers in South Africa such as Johnny Clegg, Jewish singers such as Bruce Springsteen singing about the freedom of the blacks. All the while, in the Rivonia trials, there is audio of Nelson Mandela in which he basically admits that he is a tourist in this country and that he is, know basically an immigrant to south africa so in his own words he admits that he is an immigrant to this country you know so if people were to if the veil were to drop then people would see the exact and expressed similarities between germany of 1994 Germany of the 1930s and 1940s and South Africa and apartheid South Africa it was very similar in ideology and it was very similar in the rebuke that it received from the rest of the world. It was also the same perpetrators that caused the downfall of both of those two countries. Every single time. Both of those ideologies. David J. Reilly [ 00:25:54 ] Now, I think so. Hold on, my switcher. Why aren't you working? Come here. Come here, Mr. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:26:01 ] Oh, it's so interesting to hear this backstory because somehow without actually knowing, we knew that Jews were somehow responsible for this. David J. Reilly [ 00:26:09 ] Yeah. Oh, no. What is going on? Is everything OK? No, I'm loading. It's got the spinning wheel of death. Ah, there we go. We're back. Hopefully we didn't drop off too much. So, I mean, this is The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes interesting stuff. I mean, Vince used to talk about this, right? Like the the Jewish involvement with like the ANC, the Communist Party that's been involved in South Africa. But what I don't think a lot of people know is on the exact opposite side, we also had a lot of Jewish involvement. As a matter of fact, according to this Haaretz article, South Africa's apartheid regime saved Israel's defense industry. Whoa. In the 1980s, Israel's defense industry was cash-starved until it struck a secret, unprecedented $1 billion deal with South Africa. 7 billion deal to sell South Africa 60 Kfir combat planes. And then there was also This interesting article from Jacobin. Now, of course, Jacobin is like a revolutionary left-wing magazine, you know, to take it all with a grain of salt or whatever. But it says Israel and apartheid South Africa were the closest of friends. By Mr. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:27:14 ] Lowenstein. David J. Reilly [ 00:27:15 ] Of course. Right. But so what is the truth of this? Because like when we're when we're talking about South Africa and the beginning of the apartheid regime there in 1948, that's the same year that Israel was founded. So can you tell us about this relationship between the Boers or the white South Africans and Israel? Was there a connection on that side as well? Oh, there was undoubtedly. Johannes [ 00:27:46 ] There was undoubtedly. Even if you look at the South African Defense Force, the military fatigues like this, right? It was taken from the Israeli Defense Force. He was inspired from the IDF. But! Bye. It is well worth noting that by the admission of the Jews themselves, that apartheid South Africa between the periods of 1948 and 1966 was very anti-Semitic and very unwelcoming to Jews. It is only after the onset of the Bush War or the border war, rather, the border war, that South Africa became And that they got into all of these deals with the Israelis. Now, do you want to know why that is? Yes. Because not less than two weeks after Hendrik Verwoerd announced that we will be going into the border war with the communists. They are in kill. And there is a great Russian general. His name was Karl von Clausewitz. David J. Reilly [ 00:29:04 ] Yep. Johannes [ 00:29:05 ] Now, von Clausewitz, he was a great Russian general. And he said, 'War? Is the natural continuation of politics through other means.' Now, Lenin inverted that statement by saying, 'Politics is the natural continuation of war through other means.' So in order for them. To implement their revolutionary politics in South Africa and wage their war on the political field, they had to get rid of Hendrik French Vervoort. Because if Hendrik French Vervoort had been at the helm of leadership when he was in control of the military and when the war transpired, you would have seen the ideology of apartheid come to its right. You know, but because they took him out, the people that succeeded Eric Ferenc Verwoerd, John Vorster, immediately made a loan from the International Monetary Fund under the guiding hand of Henry Kissinger. Which is why, after Verwoerd was killed, Henry Kissinger infiltrated the South African government and basically got all of our politicians to dismantle apart, one law at a time, from 1966 till 1994. And they are still doing it till this day. Because the biggest fear that these Jews have is that they go at a pace in which it elicits a response from the white population of South Africa and there is a violent uprising; they do not fear a black revolution in this country, they fear a white revolution because they can contain a black revolution within two weeks but a white revolution will upset something in the rest of the world that they will never be able to contain again. So The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes unfortunately. Apartheid and the ideology of apartheid died. With the death of Hendrik Fransch Verhoogt. David J. Reilly [ 00:31:16 ] How do you spell his name? Johannes [ 00:31:17 ] I want to look him up. So Hendrik French Verwoerd, you spell following H-E-N-D-R-I And then you can just say F and then or space F and then space again and then V E R V O E R D. David J. Reilly [ 00:31:42 ] Never would have gotten that on your own. David J. Reilly [ 00:31:44 ] I would never have been able to figure that one out. Johannes [ 00:31:49 ] This guy studied in Germany in the 1930s or 1920s. during the time period where Hitler they came to power or was on the rise. Which is interesting and the apartheid ideology is extremely close to the national so in fact it is everything uh it is all but national socialism um it is so close it just that the explicit racial component in it you know that legislated Uh, uh separation you know, interesting. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:32:34 ] Follow-ups? Just every time. David J. Reilly [ 00:32:37 ] Yeah, it's just fascinating to see that it's the kosher sandwich again, both sides-ism again, where you see, and it's much the same as what we're seeing today, where it's like, oh, you want to be a nationalist? Congrats, you need to be a Zionist too. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:32:53 ] It is somewhat reassuring to me that they're always using the same playbook. We can predict their behavior a little bit. This seems like pretty standard Jewish treachery. A little bit about the farming community and farm murders. Do you believe, of course, that the primary motive behind farmer murder seems to be racial animus? But can you elaborate a little bit on the motivation? I mean, how much of it has to do with what seems to be from our end, a complete lack of consequences for those that are committing farm murders? Johannes [ 00:33:29 ] So obviously it's not just one thing. It's many different things. Um. but i forgot something pretty substantial okay okay so i'm gonna interject and answer your question now by saying today's the 14th Um, 14th of July, which is the day on which our leader Paul Greer died. And this is what everybody can take note of, or everybody can heed. When the English were going to attack the Boers, everybody dissuaded Paul Greer from going into a war with them. And Paul Greer had one answer for them. He said: It is a coward. It is a fool. That would face a lion wielding only a knife. But it is also a coward that would turn his back and run. So, I would like that to set the tone for the rest of the conversation. It is a fool that would fight the lion wielding only a knife, but it is a coward that would turn his back to run. No. The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes There's many different contributing factors to why farm murders happen. And our enemies would like us to believe that it is because farmers are isolated. They claim that the blacks they are easy targets and that the blacks do it to rob them, but the reality is it is a war; it is an anti-personnel terror campaign. And it has been going on ever since Nelson Mandela started his little revolution. You know? And. The reason I say that is because when they attack farmers, they make sure to brutalize them and to torture them. But they also make sure to keep a witness alive, so that can bear witness to what they saw. It is rare that they would wipe out an entire family. Now, what does that imply? That implies that they want the story of farm murders to be told among the community and to be known. And on an international level, they deny it. They say, 'oh no, there's no such thing that's happening.' So now, what does it do? It. This heartens white South Africans because we feel that we are facing the world. We are not facing blacks in South Africa because if we speak up, my family, my friends, my loved ones, all of them actively discourage me from doing what I do. Because of the possible backlash because of the possibility of violence being visited upon us, okay, so we in a state of inaction from our perspective, facing this thing alone. It is denied on a national and all too often international level, but in reality, they kill us and they always leave somebody to tell the tale, and what that causes is people to leave their farms, which is exactly what the mining companies want. They want Africa because, on our continent, there are minerals. South Africa is the most mineral-rich country in the entire world. We can be completely autonomous. We do not need one single country to sustain ourselves, drive industry, flourish as a nation. As is perfectly exemplified by the boom that apartheid government experienced when we had all the sanctions during the Apartheid era. So that is what I believe the farm murder scare campaign is. It is to get white people to move from the rural countryside and to move into the farms, which is also now why it's not working. And I'm going to tell you guys something that's going to shock you now. So, Donald Trump in 2017 sent Mike Pompeo and John Sullivan to South Africa. After the situation got hot surrounding expropriation without compensation. And he made a tweet and said, 'We're going to investigate to see what the hell is going on in South Africa.' I don't know if you remember that. Now, when Sullivan and Pompeo came to South Africa, they met with no one other than Rulf Meyer. Rulf Meyer being the head negotiator. At the Gurdesan negotiations, which to this day, nobody knows what was negotiated at the Gurdesan. And basically how we lost our country was like this. The government, the Nationalist Party government said to the people, listen. We want your permission and mandate to negotiate. Not to give blacks voting rights, nothing like that, just to negotiate. And then people said, yes, you've got the vote to negotiate. And they took that and then gave the country away, gave power to the ANC. And it almost sparked. On several instances a coup d'état and violent uprising by the white people, but that's history in itself. You know it's gonna I don't want to divert too much, but That guy that instigated that treachery, that instigated that and headed those negotiations of which not the blacks, not the white people know what was negotiated. That guy was the guy that met Pompeo and Sullivan. And he was the guy, again, that spoke on behalf of the Boers. And after they left, The rhetoric surrounding expropriation without compensation changed and they said that all the agricultural unions started saying we're going to start implementing. Black economic empowerment in the agricultural sector where if you want access to water, you need to be a BE partner. Where if you want access to the markets, access to the harbors as a former, you need to be black economically empowered, which means 51% of your company has to be signed away to a black partner. What then happens? That black partner will be beholden to some rich duo capitalist and what's going to happen then? That's lost your form and expropriation has commenced, you know? So their biggest hurdle is that they want to implement economic expropriation without compensation, but in a way that doesn't elicit a violent response from white people, to be blunt. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:40:34 ] Do you think that it's fair to say that there has been increased international attention on racial hostilities between blacks and whites in South Africa to obfuscate from the Jewish subversion that's really at the helm? Johannes The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes [ 00:40:51 ] Can you repeat that question again? Because I was too focused on answering the question. I really want to make sure I understand the question. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:40:58 ] Do you think it's fair to say that there is a newfound international attention on racial hostilities between black people and white people in South Africa now so that they can obfuscate from the larger issue, which is Jewish subversion? David J. Reilly [ 00:41:16 ] Thank you. Johannes [ 00:41:17 ] Yes, that is a tricky one because there is obviously a lot of attention that is now being brought to Sorry. Oh, no. David J. Reilly [ 00:41:28 ] Sorry. David J. Reilly [ 00:41:28 ] We got a super chat that was really funny. David J. Reilly [ 00:41:32 ] Yes, sir. Johannes [ 00:41:34 ] It's very distracting when the chat gets funny. David J. Reilly [ 00:41:37 ] By the way, send in your super chats if you've got any questions for Johannes at thebacklash. net/super-chat. Thank you. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:41:45 ] You guys are bastards. Johannes [ 00:41:47 ] So basically, yes, I do think that the attention on the racial animosity and what happens when you force diversity together. There's a lot of attention that's coming to that. There's unfortunately also subversion. A very well-fished Jewish billionaire from South Africa, but that is also an international citizen, Rob Hershoff. which is family, by the way, supposedly. according to a guy named william petter owns nine percent of the entire economy of south africa Right? When after Trump and Pompeo came here and we received the first, you know, international news cycle with the expropriation stuff, Rob Ashcroft came to South Africa, and I can only assume that it is him that instigated it, but started a campaign known as Stop the Farmers. Thereby taking away from the fact that it was a racial question and obfuscating it into actually farms and fruit production are under attack. And all of the shepherd's boy, kosher organizations, agricultural unions and stuff like that started a slogan, no farmer, no food. The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes Therefore, taking away the focus point that our country was stolen from us. And putting it on to we as white farmers are the food source, are a food source for blacks. Our highest calling as white South Africans, as the Boer people, the people that fought and struggled through countless wars to come here and to have our own freedom and our own country under which we govern ourselves. Actually, we are just a food source for black people. And that's why black people shouldn't kill us, because if they kill us, then they'll starve of hunger. So that is what happened after Robert Ashcroft came here. And then they announced the government of national unity. And their entire plan is to make a federalized South Africa in which, you know, there will be one overarching government and the private sector will start taking over state-owned enterprises, and start governing as effective government. And everybody will be represented. So the biggest danger here is that. I don't think that they necessarily want to cover up their involvement in apartheid because they also brag about how they brought it to a fall. I think what they want to do is they want to keep our political focus on what caused the problem in the first place. They want to tell us, no, no, no, we need unity now. We do not need to fight. They want to use this racial animosity as a foundation to preach peace. To say, no, you know, you guys, we shouldn't fight. If we fight, then the Zionists win. That's what they want. They want white people and black people to fight with each other. Come on, guys, can't you see? We should just unify. and fight them when in actual fact if you really want to fight them then you've got to You've got to have rawua, you know, you've got to have white people and black people saying, hey, you know, we don't like your smell. That's just how it goes. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:45:27 ] Right. It seems fairly obvious that if white farmers are ousted from their land, that there will be some sort of mass starvation event, which, I mean, that should be a deterrent, obviously. Do you think that what would happen if white farmers emigrated on a mass scale? What would be the broader picture for South Africans? Johannes [ 00:45:52 ] I think that that is a very, very white thing of you to say. And I think that this propaganda, that the propaganda that they have. for us today is tailor-made to catch us like a little fly in a spider web. I can assure you, if white people leave South Africa, there will not be a mass starving event. David J. Reilly [ 00:46:13 ] Really? Johannes [ 00:46:14 ] Because why do I say this? Yes, because Zimbabwe, Zimbabwe, or what is today known as Zimbabwe, which was previously Rhodesia. Just probably 15 years ago, I had a mass starving event. Do you want to know what happened? They loaded all the trucks, train trucks that they can, and they took Maize's meal away from it, and the starving event was averted within weeks. So, if the white farmers were to relinquish their claim on South Africa and leave, I can promise you that they will give the opportunity to some or other capitalist faction somewhere in the world and say, 'Hey, you want to make money? There's some black people that want some food to eat.' Do you want to send them food? And why are they going to want to? Now you're going to ask, why would they want to feed blacks in Africa? Well, simple. Because I believe that if you look at the thousands of NGOs that are stopping starvation in Africa, that there is a devious plan with it. I don't believe that it is just there for humanitarian aid. I think that it is to prop up black population. And at some point, And people may call me a conspiracy theorist now, but I think at some point if they then, but I'd rather refer to myself as a strategist here. So if they cause a famine event, a mass starvation event. and I hurdled him to Europe. then the europeans are in big okay oh yeah so We can already see Europe being flooded by blacks and there's not any starvation, taking any real big, large scale starvation in Europe. So what I think is that if The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes the white farmers were to leave South Africa, they would quite easily, quite easily assert dominance in this country. The white farmers in South Africa are the biggest. spoke in their will you know the biggest Um. obstacle in their way because we are here We say this is our country and we don't want to leave. That's constantly why they get our politicians and our talking heads to try and convince us of a different destiny, like providing food for the people that are killing us or sharing a country with people that are not even native to this country. So our political focus is constantly being undermined and distracted. What we need now is we need political focus. We need to say, listen. We are a people. First and foremost, we are people. and if we are people that means that we need a place in which we reside it's like a house your family rebecca let's say your name is rebecca and your surname is blonde Rebecca, the Rebecca blonde family. can only be a family. If it has a horse, in which it can live in which it can thrive under its values and can take care of itself. But right now, what is happening is Rebecca Blond's house is being subdivided and given out to people that have come to visit. Your house, your five rooms, you only have one room and they're telling you, be a gracious host, Rebecca. These people have come a long way. If you stop feeding these people that now illegally occupy your house, Rebecca, that refuse to pay for your house, Rebecca, then they're going to die. Instead of letting them die, Rebecca, you need to ensure that you keep feeding them. Add no personal gain to yourself and only personal detriment. So that is exactly in the simplest way that I can describe what is happening in South Africa, what is happening here. And yes, it is a model to rule the world. This is what they want to see done in every single white country. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:50:41 ] Good Lord. Do you have hope for Arania? Johannes [ 00:50:44 ] No, I do not have hope for Iran. Listen, I'll tell you why. Because Rania wants to have peaceful coexistence, which is what Henrik Verwoerd wanted. Hendrik Verwoerdt built hospitals, universities, schools and neighbourhoods for the blacks. Do you know what they paid him with? They killed him. Thank you. These people understand one thing. And that is false. They do not understand respect. They do not understand mutual recognition. They understand folks. And if our approach them is, 'hey, let's be nice to each other.' Then they see it as weakness. And I see it as the going. To do with us what they want to. So, Rania will continue to exist. As long as the white people surrounding Iran exists, if that makes sense. David J. Reilly [ 00:51:53 ] Man, I was pretty much wrong about everything that I thought about this situation. David J. Reilly [ 00:51:57 ] Do you think that it's primarily because I just did a search or whatever on grok, you know, and it looks like, you know, the defense-related precious minerals that are in South Africa, I mean, you've got uranium, lithium, gold, chromium, manganese, platinum. Do you think that this is actually, like, primarily about these minerals? Or do you think it's like the race thing is just kind of an aside or is it primarily about the control over the resources? Johannes [ 00:52:31 ] It's about the control of the resources and the geographic um location of South Africa so there's a sea route you know that comes that goes past the Southern Cape which is very important. And then obviously it's about the minerals. Now the race thing. Is being used to draw away from the fact that this country is our country so now the focus is between you know this racial animosity and trying to give us They're trying to give us some things to solve that can't be solved. Now this is a very old trick of The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes theirs. And it can be best seen in the whole transgender question. They will tell you, how are we going to work on an operation that successfully turns a man into a woman? It can't be done. But they want to occupy our life force, our energy, and our way of thinking into solving unsolvable questions, which is exactly what the racial dispute in South Africa is. Rather than how do we advocate for ourselves, you know so now that we're trying to fix something that cannot be fixed, right? The way that there isn't racial animosity is if there isn't different races living together or being forced to live together. That's very simple. That's very simple. You know, it's not something that is hard to deduce. It's not something that you need some high IQ guy to explain to you. You've got black people, that are attacking white people and you remove the black people from access to the white people, then there are no more black people attacking white people. You think it's simple, right? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:54:29 ] Oh, I didn't realize. Pause. No, it is simple. I mean, that's why the apartheid state was so effective. We do have a few questions that came in for you. David J. Reilly [ 00:54:37 ] I've got one more. Send in your super chats to backlash. net slash super chat. If you've got any questions for Johannes or if you'd like to comment on what blonde is wearing or anything like that. Come on. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:54:48 ] It's a normal dress. David J. Reilly [ 00:54:50 ] Oh, geez. What happened here? Okay. Are we good? You people. It's weird. It's like I look away from the computer. It freezes. I look back and it unfreezes. It's AI. What do you think about what we're seeing, I guess, in like the global stage? So we've got in America, some of the most wealthy, powerful people with access to the government; in charge of defense technology companies are all white South Africans. We've got Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, who spent some time as a child in South Africa, Rolof Botha. Let me see here real quick, I'm definitely forgetting people. David Sachs is another one. Maybe Paul Ferber. Sachs of what? Sachs of gold? Johannes [ 00:55:39 ] What's his name? What's that guy's name? Sam Hyde. Yeah, right. David J. Reilly [ 00:55:46 ] So, what are your thoughts, I guess, about this interesting concentration of, like, former apartheid-supporting white South Africans that are now primarily aligned with, like, the Israeli government? Johannes [ 00:56:16 ] And all of that kind of stuff. So, the people that you mentioned right now, the majority of them, I don't know their racial makeup, but I can, without looking or without researching, guarantee you that they are not Afrikaners. They are not Boers. They are from a different, they're from someplace else. Let's say they possibly came here at the turn of the century, you know? David J. Reilly The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes [ 00:56:39 ] Yeah, I mean, with Elon Musk, I think it was his grandparents, right? Party or something like that and then they moved to South Africa, I think, after the Second World War. Johannes [ 00:56:50 ] Um, and so well you know, Musk is a little bit difficult to say because you know Elon Musk sometimes he does things like that, you know, with his um father that was in the his grandfather was in a Nazi party etc but Elon Musk's father has said in an interview in South Africa that, 'Why would Elon Musk be anti-Semitic? He's one-eighth Jewish.' You know, so I wouldn't – let me just be clear. I don't think that Peter Thiel, David Sachs, and Elon Musk are necessarily – They're not pro-Boer. They've got something different in mind. If you ask Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, David Sachs, and whatever the other guys, the Brita guy, if you ask all of them, yeah, if you ask all of them, does South Africa belong to the Afrikaner people? I guarantee you, I guarantee you this. Elon Musk, if you see this, I challenge you to say it isn't so. They would say that South Africa does not belong to the Afrikaner people. Interesting. But if you ask them, does Israel belong to the Israelites? Might get a different answer. Yeah. David J. Reilly [ 00:58:15 ] I mean, do you think there's any hope that, like, you know, with the amount of these rare earth minerals that are needed by Elon, for example, to make his cars, I mean, why not recognize the Afrikaners and strike a deal with them to get at the precious metals? You know, why go with Julius Malema and these, you know, commies to go with this? Johannes [ 00:58:39 ] I mean, obviously this is just my thought process, but I think that these people are more prone to being corrupted. That's just what I think. What if you return it to white people and you get a Hitler-esque figure or you get a Hindutva-like figure that elevates people on a moral level and so on, gets them to pursue morality as a society, and then they start kicking you out. That seems like a risk now. You put people in power who are actually very adequate, actually very capable of rooting out corruption-why would you take that chance? Why wouldn’t you give it to people that naturally are inclined or inclined to being corrupted? David J. Reilly [ 00:59:25 ] Yeah. Johannes [ 00:59:26 ] It wouldn’t seem like a very smart thing to do. And these people, make no mistake, are very intelligent. David J. Reilly [ 00:59:32 ] Yeah. No, it’s true. While you’re sending in your final super chats, we do have some of this video of Julius Malema throat of whiteness. SPEAKER_3 [ 00:59:46 ] Well, I have a hot take on Jesus Malimo for you, son. So these people, when you want to hit them hard, go after a white man. They feel a terrible pain. Because you have touched a white man. Not because Mashaba and Soli will not be touched. They will be touched. Don’t worry. But we are starting with this whiteness. David J. Reilly The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes [ 01:00:16 ] There’s also another politician. Oh, there he is. There's Vince. Let's see. Do we have? Yeah, here we go. David J. Reilly [ 01:00:25 ] For each white person that has been killed by the taxi industry, we'll kill five white people. For every one black person you kill, we'll kill five white people. You kill one of us, we'll kill five of you. You kill one of us, we'll kill five of you. You kill one of us. Why fuck you? David J. Reilly [ 01:00:46 ] So anyway, we get the idea. You kill one of us, we'll kill five of you. And of course, we've got this nice little tweet, right? The same guy that's talking about killing white people, and we will cut the throat of whiteness. Julius Malema says, anti-Semitism is hatred, prejudice, or hostility towards Jews. Some of our biggest financial donors are Jewish, and we love them. Johannes [ 01:01:09 ] Do you remember the guy I told you, Rob Ashoff? Did you remember him? Yes. I told you about the Jew, Rob Ashoff? David J. Reilly [ 01:01:15 ] Yes. Johannes [ 01:01:16 ] Do you want to know who Julius Malema went to see when he left South Africa for London in 2013? No one other than Rob Hassel. Ah, Lord Robin Ringwick and Basil Hassel. Wow, yeah. So there you go. Julius Malema, listen; what he says is absolutely appalling. It's sickening. But we have to be aware. We have to notice what's going on around us. And Julius Maleva is nothing other than a black pressure release valve. He is a reactionary politician. He goes on a stage and says, 'We're going to kill white people,' blah, blah, blah. But he's never going to commit to such a revolution because his financiers are Jews. And these Jews do not want them to commit to a mass-scale killing of white people because that would elicit a response from white people, and that would be a war. And if we were to fight a war with these people, all of the lies and the conditioning fall away. Like that. And we get a chance for freedom, which is obviously a situation that is less. Predictable than what black behavior would be under a leader that just, you know, parrots these things. So. That can be seen in an instance such as Chris Arnie. Chris Arnie was killed because he was a true black revolutionary. He wasn't one of these, you know, six-letter F words like Julius Malema that just said, 'Oh, I'm going to kill the white people, kill the white people.' He actually wanted to kill the white people. Which is commendable. That's my favorite kind of black politician because that's an honest black politician. That's something that I can, you know. Rally my people behind you, know say listen, you know you can see for yourself-this is what Tabu wants to do first. He came for your bike now he comes for your bike then he comes for your life, you know so yeah it doesn't stop at the bike now. Chris Harney was assassinated by what I believe the ANC and the Nationalist Party working together. Because the death of Chris Harney set the table for Nelson Mandela to say, we want peace. Because the revolution stopped. Because remember, a revolution can only be had if there is a leader to mobilize the people. Right now, the blacks, they hate us. They want us gone. They want to kill us. But they do not have a unifying figure that can do that. And people like Rob Ashoff, people like the Oppenheimers. I've got a clip that I can send you guys with Johan Rupert. One of the billionaires of South Africa stands next to a guy and then he says, no, man, I'll fire, basically I'll fire Julius Malema and we’ll put this guy in there. It's not a problem. Floyd Chivambu, which has actually left the EFF a couple of years ago, he was the second in command in the EFF, and The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes he joined the Nkonto Isiswe party. of Jacob Zuma, said he can’t stand Judas Malema because in the day he swears at the white people and at night he goes and drinks with them. Obviously, this, you know, this Ooga Booga, this Kang, doesn't have the ability to distinguish between Johan Rupert being white or Jewish. You know, for him, a Jew is a white guy, you know. And for him, there is an apartheid regime in Israel, which is laughable, laughable. Laughable. Apartheid was built on racial segregation to repatriate all the people that didn't belong in our country, but also to safeguard white identity. That is not what Zionism is. That is not what Zionism is. But now the Zionists also, they're very clever, right? So they funnel because they make sure to remind us that they were our biggest ally, right? They funnel our nationalist pride into Israel, into Zionism. So we don't get to have national pride for ourselves. And say South Africa for the white man. No, but we do get to have national pride in Israel. We do get to support them. That's okay. If we do that, that's fine. But if we want the country for ourselves, we must really understand that we are not God's people. You see? So that's what they firmly want us to understand. I know it might you know sound overly complicated but it boils down to this: White people, wherever they find themselves, have got to start preaching; we've got to win the narrative war. Because for a very long time now, we've been losing the narrative war everywhere in the world. And I believe we do that by openly advocating on a racial basis for our own people, saying we want white countries for white people, not majority-white countries, not majority-Christian countries, not majority-... It's not Christianity versus Islam. It's white people versus everybody else. And we want the country and our countries for our people alone, from the people that constantly claim that they just want to live peacefully amongst, you know? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:06:54 ] Man, you are singing my tune. I want to stand up and cheer. Johannes [ 01:06:59 ] Sorry? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:07:00 ] You're singing my tune. That makes me want to stand up and cheer, hearing somebody say that. Johannes [ 01:07:06 ] Awesome. Well, I'm glad that I could do that. David J. Reilly [ 01:07:09 ] All right. Well, let's get into some super chats, of which we have a few. One of them from John Bagnoli. This came through, I think, during our Twitter space on Friday. Oh, really? So we just have to get caught up a little bit. Have you read Chief Culprit by Viktor Suvorov? The book lays that Stalin was preparing to invade Western Europe. Why is it so easy for the Wehrmacht to penetrate so deeply into the Soviet Union? Germany relied on 750,000 horses to move its guns. David J. Reilly [ 01:07:38 ] I'm unfamiliar with this. David J. Reilly [ 01:07:39 ] have no idea i don't even remember were we talking about this in the space i don't think so oh man sorry so sorry guy well we had to read it out uh thank you for the big super chat um okay hold on all right what do we have for you uh right uh let's see here uh big mad lad sent five dollars i hate The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes seeing whites give up land but we could use the white south africans in white countries also i hate seeing white boers producing the food to grow to the black hordes that will later come invade us stop feeding blacks. Johannes [ 01:08:13 ] I agree, but I would like to say this. I know a lot of people and I understand the sentiment where they leave South Africa and saying, let South Africa be, you know, surrender it. But I say no, if there's any country that we need to fight for, and I know it's because it's my country; I'm biased. I get that yes, I understand that, and I agree; I am biased. But It's more of a statement. You know, this country was This international multiracial, non-racial hellhole that we live in now. A lot of the narratives sprung from South Africa where a lie was sold to the world that 'oh no peace love and all that stuff.' But I believe that we have to stand our ground here in South Africa and say, this country does belong to us. We will reclaim it. We will never leave it, even if it means we have to die. And if it means every single last one of us needs to die in defense of our country, then it means that. If we can only achieve one thing by it, and that is to inspire other European peoples around the world to stand up and fight for what is rightfully theirs, then we have done enough. But if we leave. If we are willing to abandon the blood of our forefathers that courses through this country, then we have no right to passage into a different country. And honestly, I would not want to host guests that are so cowardly like that. I wouldn’t. If it was somebody who wants to come into my house and say, listen, I left my father’s house. There were these people that wanted to take my father’s house. I didn’t feel like fighting. I was afraid that something could happen to me. So can I stay at yours? I would tell them to f**k right off. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:09:59 ] Well, I appreciate your warrior spirit. Spirit, but black, or white, not black and white South Africans are welcome in America. They're not just welcome in America, they are welcome here in Idaho. David J. Reilly [ 01:10:10 ] We are hosting nine of them, or I think it says, right? That's it? Yeah. And remember when the media started freaking out about this, they were like, oh my God, nine Afrikaners are coming to Idaho? This is the end. It's going to be a white supremacist state immediately. And it's like, what the f**k are you talking about? Nine people, who cares? Thanks for not giving up and pushing forward with the show. Please keep it up. You will get there. Also, this is Gibbs for Becca only. As for Dave, 'but godliness with contentment is great gain' 1Timothy 66. Love you guys. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:10:44 ] Oh, thank you so much. Thank you for the big super chat. That's like a little pat on the head. Like, you're doing your best. You're doing the show without Mr. Big Mr. Vince. David J. Reilly [ 01:10:53 ] Very true. We're trying our best. Let's see. Which is what I told my five-year-old to do before her swimming lesson this morning. That's where we are. BookTrackGroove sent $10. David, nice work on your homework. Does this company can take crops that you grow or animals from your land? Johannes, what aid do you need? What songs does a boar like to sing? Johannes [ 01:11:16 ] Well, first, before I answer that, I'd like to say thank you to you guys for hosting my countrymen. Obviously, you know, as sad as it is to see our people go, it is understandable because more and more young people-there just isn't work for them. They can't support their families. They don't The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes have really any prospects of a future. But for those of us that can, we will stay and we will fight. As long as we must. What do we need? We need to win the narrative war, simply put. Before we, everybody wants to go and everyone wants to say, There's only one thing that needs to be done, right? There's no more point in talking. And I understand the sentiment because our enemies are at 90% and we are at 10%, right? So we're down below, only getting started. And for a long time, they've convinced us to be silent. But if there's one thing that we need now is we need people to start speaking about what's going on here. And to start speaking the real message, not this cucked message of, oh no, you know, we are sorry about apartheid. We need to start saying we're not sorry about apartheid. The only thing we're sorry about is that white taxpayer money was used to uplift black people. That was very unfair. That is the only human rights violation that there was under apartheid. okay the fact that white people were impoverished to help black people. We have to be unashamed in our messaging in saying that. The Afrikaner people deserve to have their country back. And we have to have people in America and in Europe echo that. We have to have people saying whether we support the Afrikaners people's rightful claim to South Africa. If Donald Trump. If Donald Trump went and he said there is a white genocide, which is good, he did that. But he went further and said. And. That country belongs to the Afrikaner people. They we would have made some serious gains. Now, my question to you guys would be, Trump supposedly is now the Afrikaner people's ally because he now did this thing for them. Has Trump ever in his life said that Israel belongs to the Israelis? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:13:38 ] Surely, he has said that. Johannes [ 01:13:39 ] So you say that it is their ancestral home? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:13:42 ] I'm sure, yes. Johannes [ 01:13:45 ] Has he ever, or any other politician to your knowledge, said that? that South Africa is the ancestral homeland of the Afrikaner or the Boer people. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:13:54 ] I don't think I've ever heard anybody in a public position say that. Johannes [ 01:13:59 ] So there's your litmus test. He's not our ally. They are only using us for political, you know, maneuvering. And because there's this case that was being made against Israel by the ANC government, yada, yada, yada. The reality is we need politicians on the international stage to say that South Africa for the white man. That's what we that's what we need the most and we're only going to get that if people like yourselves and your audience start echoing and mirroring that message, and I can give you my my word and put my life behind that: that if you guys do that, we will be here to back that up. But anything short of that is basically putting a Band-Aid on a gunshot. I am not going to say, I'm not going to be, I'm not going to say, oh, yeah, you know, if you guys could just support Iran, that would be good. No, my people are so directionless that they need to be saved from their own selves. Man, they have lost their sense of purpose and they have lost their political will completely. And it's understandable, but it isn't tolerable. I can understand it; we can understand it doesn't mean that we have to tolerate it-we have to call our people to account; we have to call them to a higher calling. That sounds started, but it's fine. We have to inspire them to hire calling and say that no, now, if ever, is the The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes time. For garbage. You know, yeah, don’t Don’t, now cower and take the politics of the obtainable. Forget about the politics of the obtainable. Forget about that. It is now time for us to set our sights on what is right and what is just, and rally people behind that. David J. Reilly [ 01:15:59 ] All right. We got $25 from Reinhardt, who said, 'God bless the Bowers.' God bless Aranya. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:16:08 ] Johannes agrees with half of that. Johannes [ 01:16:12 ] No, listen, I'm not; I just want to say that I love the people in Orania because they are my people, right? But my people just are at this point. They have lost all hope. And I don't want them to be. I don't want them to be the cancer patient, that is using their last million dollars to pay for chemo, knowing full well that they're going to die. I don't want that for them. I do not want that for them. I want them to return to their roots. To. Live the life that their forefathers lived. A life in which, in the loggerhead blood river we had no assurance that we were going to make it out alive but we chose to put our faith in our God and in each other. And it is time for us to rekindle that spirit. David J. Reilly [ 01:17:15 ] Well said. BookTrackRoof sent $10. What is the dating market like in South Africa? Do you guys have a matchmaker? Are you a Christian? Johannes [ 01:17:28 ] I have been matchmaker for a lot of people. I like to think; I don't know how successful, but I try. I actively encourage young people to get married and to; I wouldn't say I encourage them to date because I think that, you know, we need to get a bit away from the old dating culture, we need to get into the marriage culture exactly you know marriage culture is where we need to be; we need to raise men of honor that will not, you know, take advantage of women, and we need to raise women that are housekeepers, that's what we need to do, so that we can have big strong white families, so that's what we do. The dating scene in South Africa is much like any other country in the world; it isn't great because modernity has killed it, but there is hope-young people are waking up to this and young people are pursuing sober, you know, sober lifestyles, which is good and which is what we must on our part do, everything to advance that, and to encourage that. Oh, am I a Christian? Yes. Yes, I am. David J. Reilly [ 01:18:49 ] What kind of Christian? Get out of here, Dave. No, I'm kidding. Johannes [ 01:18:54 ] I'm the kind of Christian that believes only white people should go in; is that cool? David J. Reilly [ 01:19:02 ] That's funny. All right. Well, I think that we've got a couple more Super Chats that we're going to do, but I don't think they pertain to you. So, we're going to let you go before, you know, we're not going to make you sit through all of our advertisements, but you can follow Johannes on YouTube at Johannes-Agenbach. I hopefully didn't butcher that. And he's also on Twitter at jajajohannes777. Let me make this a little bit bigger so you can see that. jajajohannes777 on Twitter. The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:19:37 ] Please follow him. Thank you so much for taking the time to do this. That was such an informative and inspiring discussion, and we really appreciate it. Johannes [ 01:19:46 ] Thank you very much, Rebecca. I really appreciate you guys giving us the opportunity as always. And David, great work on the pronunciation. Those Afrikaners over there in America are really rubbing off on you guys. David J. Reilly [ 01:19:58 ] Well, no, when I was in college, one of my best friends, his name is, oh, I'm going to get in trouble for even saying his name, but his name is David Westerhout. And he came from Cape Town and his father fought in the Rhodesian army. And so like whenever we used to hang out, I was always with him and I'd hear all these stories and he's like, no, no, it wasn't. wasn't so bad, blah, blah, blah. And so anyway, it's funny. I've known about this issue for a long time, so it's nice to talk. It's been a long time since I've spoken to a South African, but thank you so much. Johannes [ 01:20:26 ] Well, thank you very much, guys. We really appreciate it from the bottom of our hearts. And as a last thing, I'd just like to say, 'Freedom for the white man,' South Africa for the white man. See you guys. Bye-bye. See you. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:20:38 ] Awesome. That was awesome. Very good. That's inspiring. I wish I had that kind of commitment to my homeland. I don't give a crap about America. David J. Reilly [ 01:20:46 ] I know. The demoralization is real. I know. All right. Let's get through some of these. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:20:51 ] Where in the world can I move? I don't care. I'll do it. David J. Reilly [ 01:20:54 ] We've got some other important super chats to get to. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:20:56 ] Is it about my dress? I should get up and spin around. David J. Reilly [ 01:20:58 ] My mommy sent me milk money. Sent $10. What is Rebecca wearing? Looking like she skinned Dumbo to make that top. Put his poor floppy ears on her shoulders. Unforgivable. Rebecca Hargraves The Backlash - Episode 56-From Apartheid to Anarchy - The Untold Story of White South Africa wJohannes [ 01:21:10 ] This is a beautiful free people dress. A-line dress. This is not a top. Falls on my natural waist. It's a beautiful dress. David J. Reilly [ 01:21:22 ] Looks great. You guys are cocks. Absolutely love it. Okay, let's see here. Thunderstorm9 sent $10. Blonde, thank you for your work. Great guest. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:21:31 ] Thank you so much. David J. Reilly [ 01:21:33 ] Yojimbo Rockford sent $5. N. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:21:38 ] Where are the other five super chats, buddy? David J. Reilly [ 01:21:41 ] What other five super chats? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:21:42 ] The I, the G, the other G. David J. Reilly [ 01:21:45 ] Well, yeah, so clearly we're going to need, maybe while we read. While we read our ads, we can get the rest of this tower built up. But yeah, we got one N. Let me just check entropy real quick. It says. Why doesn't it say that we have anything over here on entropy? What's up with entropy. Hold on. Start. Boop. Boop. Clearly we must have something. No, we don't; that sucks. Oh, cool, okay. Well, anyway, uh, let's get to some of our sponsors. Which one are we talking about first? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:22:26 ] Does it matter? David J. Reilly [ 01:22:27 ] I don't know. As well as newer figures like Lord Miles Routledge of Afghanistan, Josh Neill, and Christian Secor. In addition to a long list of original translations or modern reprints of otherwise inaccessible historical works from eras such as Fascist Italy, National Socialist Germany, and even Medieval Europe. 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Would you please ask Johannes about his comrade cartoon project to see if there has been any movement toward an English dub? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:24:55 ] I'm so sorry. I can DM him on Twitter. David J. Reilly [ 01:24:57 ] Yes. Sorry, buddy. Sorry about that. But yeah, be careful when you're sending these super chats. I guess he sent it to the wrong address or something. So apologies. Scan the QR code. Wrong support button. Interesting. Anyway. I guess we'll have to, I have to go through that again and see if there's like some sort of like weird thing. We also have to thank our sponsors at North Idaho Tallow Company. If you are sick and tired of skincare packed with chemicals you can't pronounce, North Idaho Tallow might be for you. They keep it simple with grass-fed tallow, time-tested ingredients, and zero junk. Their soaps, balms, and lip balm are packed with bioavailable nutrients your skin actually needs. 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