Episode 6 – Fuentes Assassin, Tim Pool for Sale, Shifts in Media & Government

The Backlash-ep06-Fuentes Assassin, Tim Pool for Sale, Shifts in Media & Government Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:00:00 ] Welcome to The Backlash, a weekly discussion about the past, present, and future of the Western world. I am your host, Rebecca Hargraves. You may know me and be watching me on my YouTube channel right now, Blonde in the Belly of the Beast. I am flanked by my dear friend and producer, Dave Riley. Reilly [ 00:00:16 ] Thank you very much. It's great to be here. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:00:19 ] Mr. Vincent James. Reilly [ 00:00:21 ] Hello. Good evening. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:00:23 ] And the irreplaceable Cameron McGregor. Welcome, fellas. Cameron MacGregor [ 00:00:28 ] Present and accounted for. All right. We're all here. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:00:32 ] I know. I had a totally different idea of what we were going to talk about this week. And then this Fuentes assassination thing happened. We have to talk about that. Reilly [ 00:00:42 ] Yes. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:00:42 ] I don't want to start the show every week by saying, 'Wow, it's been a jam-packed news week.' But it truly has. We have a lot to discuss. I mean, this Fuentes thing. A few weeks ago, I heard Fuentes say, 'Luigi Mangione and the left lionizing Luigi Mangione is going to pave the way for other shooters to be ideologically motivated.' And that seems to be exactly the situation that he's in right now. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about this FemCell shooter, Candace Owens, anti-Semite of the year. We're going to talk about Tim Pool, what's going on in Europe, these crazy drones. We have a lot. We have a lot in store for you guys tonight. So welcome and thank you so much, everybody, for joining us. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:01:32 ] Yeah. Fun stuff. We never know what we're going to talk about, really, until like a few minutes. Like, just like a few minutes before the show actually begins, which that is incorrect. That's the way that it needs to be. We just need to be just like flowing through this here. We never know what's going to happen. Stuff is happening. Things are happening. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:01:53 ] I hate everything that you just said. Like, I hate everything about that. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:01:56 ] A dude just showed up. He showed up to Nick's house with a little crossbow in one hand and a gun in the other hand, right? It was like a gun and a crossbow. We've got the clip. We've got the clip. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:02:10 ] Yeah. Let's dive right in. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:02:10 ] Here it is. Good job, Dave. That was quick. Shh. Reilly [ 00:02:26 ] Shh. Hargraves [ 00:02:27 ] It's in the second clip. He's like, hello or yo, Nick. Reilly [ 00:02:35 ] Is it the second clip? Hargraves [ 00:02:36 ] Mm-hmm. Reilly [ 00:02:37 ] So he came to the door twice or? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:02:41 ] I'm not sure. I don't think so. I think that... Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:02:44 ] Wait, what is that? Is that a crossbow? Yeah. Yeah. How is it laying flat? Oh, it's folded. Okay. Reilly [ 00:02:55 ] Anyway, I didn't hear it, but he did. He went up to his door, and he said, hey, Nick. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:02:59 ] Yeah. Yeah. Yo, Nick. Reilly [ 00:03:01 ] So there's been a lot of people on the internet that have been trying to claim that, oh, this wasn't really an assassination attempt. This was just like a deranged shooter. No. He showed up to Nick's apartment. Right. And called for him by name. SPEAKER_7 [ 00:03:15 ] Mm-hmm. Reilly [ 00:03:15 ] With a gun, with a crossbow, during a period where Nick has been getting harassed since the election. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:03:22 ] And a police statement came out, which, of course, says that the would-be assassin committed a triple homicide right before this. This happened yesterday evening, and the triple homicide happened in the afternoon. There's a series of tweets, but he also had broken into the next-door neighbor's home, shot the neighbor's dogs, two dogs. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:03:43 ] The next-door neighbor's home? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:03:45 ] The next-door neighbor of Nick. Yeah. Reilly [ 00:03:47 ] I didn't know that. I've got the original tweet thread we can read. Last night, an armed killer. This is Nick Fuentes' tweet. Last night, an armed killer. Last night, an armed killer made an attempt on my life at my home, which was recently doxxed on this platform. The gunman carried a pistol, crossbow, and incendiary devices. I believe he intended to kill me. He's now dead. I'm okay. According to police, the would-be assassin committed a triple homicide in southern Illinois early yesterday before he arrived at my doorstep with his pistol drawn, calling my name. I'm grateful that I'm still alive today. Tragically, the gunman broke into a neighbor's home to evade police and killed two of their dogs. While heartbreaking, it would have been so unimaginable. It could have been so unbelievably worse. God have mercy. Doxxing is not a game. This nihilistic lynch mob behavior must end before anyone else is killed. I will now have to uproot my life and relocate while I can handle whatever comes to my front door. It's irresponsible to expect my neighbors with young families to share the burden. In the meantime, I will have to contract 24-hour security to protect myself and my property. And then there's a tweet where he's asking for donations. I'm sure you can find that, NicholasJFuentes. com. Wait, so the dude's dead? The dude got shot? By the police? The guy that showed up at Nick's house. By the police? Got shot dead by the police. Oh, okay. So apparently what had happened earlier in the day is the guy, I've seen reports that he was a homosexual, that he murdered his boyfriend, his sister, and his mother, and then got in his car, drove three hours to Chicago, where he got out, and then, you know, calls Nick by name. Holy shit. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:05:25 ] He was going to try. He was going to try to rape him, probably. He said he was gay? Reilly [ 00:05:32 ] That's what I saw in the group chat, Vinny. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:05:35 ] He was going to try to rape Nick at gunpoint. That's probably what he was there for. Wow, that's a crazy twist. But it wasn't his next-door neighbor. It was just a neighbor. Because I've been to his apartment complex, and it's like, yeah, it's like, it's multiple apartments, right, inside of there. So he's just going to have to rent that out. Yeah. Because the next-door neighbor, I think, is also apartment complex as well. I think it's also a duplex. I could be wrong. It might just be a single-family home. But so it wasn’t the next-door neighbor that he shot. It was just a neighbor. Could be someone in the neighborhood. Well, he didn’t shoot the neighbor. Reilly [ 00:06:11 ] He shot. No, he shot their dogs. He shot the neighbor’s dogs. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:06:13 ] But the next-door neighbor? I don’t know. Right next door or just a neighbor? A neighbor. Oh, that’s crazy. He says a neighbor. Reilly [ 00:06:20 ] I wonder how that worked out. I mean, like, did he, did the cops show up, and then he left Nick's and, like, ran into a neighbor’s house, then shot the dogs, then gets in a shootout with the police? I mean, there’s got to be a lot of body cam footage that, well, they probably have it under investigation, so we can’t get it, but. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:06:37 ] Well, the police, I mean, a lot of this stuff got, a lot of this stuff from her, the original person that showed up to his house, that fat chick with all the buttons. Did you see all her buttons? Oh, my God. Hargraves [ 00:06:47 ] What was her name? Marla. Her last name escapes me. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:06:51 ] Marla. I don't know. But I think it was, was it Beardson who tweeted out a photo, and he was like, he said something like, you can't be sane if you have that many buttons. And she literally, she had, like, pins. They were buttons. They were, like, pinned buttons all over her shirt, like a hundred of them. And a lot of that body camera footage came out pretty quick. And also, there was, like, some footage that came out from the police station. Did you guys see that? Yeah. Which, I've never seen that happen. Like, I haven't seen that happen. There was, like, footage of Nick getting frisked by the police at the police station. Hargraves [ 00:07:33 ] Weird. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:07:33 ] From the police cameras. So who's releasing that? Hargraves [ 00:07:39 ] You probably can get it from a FOIA request. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:07:42 ] Yeah, but, I mean, that's, that was quick. I mean, it would just happen, I mean, it happened pretty, fairly recently. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:07:48 ] No matter. I'm sure this was frightening for Nick, but this is so good for his case because it just shows that there were. There were genuine threats on his life and that he was appropriately scared when she showed up to his house. He's like, people want to kill me. I don't think you guys understand. And he's right. People do want to kill him. There she is. Reilly [ 00:08:05 ] I can't find the photo of her with all the pins. With the buttons. Duh. Yeah. But that's the, that's the creature from Jekyll Island that came to Nick's house. Or any maester. I mean, in retrospect, doesn't this look so justified then? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:08:21 ] Oh, yeah. Totally. Reilly [ 00:08:22 ] The, the macing. And then, I think after watching the police report. From when he was with Marla and he's talking about how many attempts had been, you know, people like 30 times, he said like 30 people had come by earlier in that, that one day. Yeah. So, I mean, it kind of puts you more into his, in his headspace. I think it, I think it makes that whole incident look more justifiable. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:08:43 ] Well, the thing is, is that even if it wasn't like, like if it was just a normal person in Berwyn and they got, you know, they had these people show up to their house, right. That want to kill them. That want to kill them or like want to do harm to them, then I think that it wouldn't be that big of a deal. But the fact that it's Nick and even the police said, I think at one point they call you like in this most recent thing, or he was like, they call you a white supremacist. And he's like, well, I'm not a white supremacist or whatever. Right. I don't know if you saw that video. I did. So, if they want to go after him. Reilly [ 00:09:18 ] I'm not a white supremacist. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:09:19 ] I'm Mexican. I'm Mexican. Just, if they want to go after him, they're going to figure out a way to go after him. Yeah. Right. I don't think it does. I don't think this does any, you know, if, if, if that's their goal, if that's their intention to lock him up because they want to get rid of him, I don't think that this does anything for him. Reilly [ 00:09:37 ] Well, and I guess that kind of leads me to a different question, which is who bears the responsibility for this, right? Because there's a big part of me and a big part of people on online that actually think that Elon Musk bears some of this responsibility for allowing it online, for allowing Nick's docs to allow on Twitter and get 15, 20, 30 million impressions over the since the, since the election, you know, if it was anybody else, as a matter of fact, when it happened to JD Vance, right? Like some journalist wrote a piece about JD Vance and it contained his home address. Immediately, Elon banned the journalist that put it out and he banned every single account that retweeted it. Right. But when it's. When it's Nick Fuentes's address that gets doxed on the internet, nothing, he doesn't stop anything. He lets it go. And frankly, I am not entirely convinced that this isn't part of some deep state conspiracy to get Nick, frankly, because when you look at how I was going to mention this, there was a moment in 1986 here in Coeur d'Alene. And I think everybody knows by now that the area nation's headquarters used to be here in North Idaho. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:10:54 ] Here? No. No. Reilly [ 00:10:55 ] And so, in 1986, a member of the Jewish Defense League, a radical terrorist organization that was backed by the Mossad, his name was Mordecai Levy, got a bunch of articles posted in the local newspapers here saying that he would give a thousand dollars to anybody that brings him a Nazi scalp. And that got reprinted in the Idaho Statesman, the Chronicle, the Coeur d'Alene Press. And within the week, a crazy person showed up at Dave and Deborah Doerr's house with an automatic gun and shot up the front of their house in an attempted murder. Because of that hit that was essentially put out in the press. So now here we are. It's 2024. It's still the same. It's still the same. But now they're using digital means. Now they're using Twitter. Now they're using these kinds of like echo chamber algorithms where they can target and isolate one single person, drive them crazy and make them go off and do an insane act. I just want to say that that should be on the table. It's not as crazy as I think it is. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:11:58 ] Cam, you wanted to say something? Cameron MacGregor [ 00:12:01 ] I mean, I don't have much to add on this subject, except, you know, I always think in terms of the bigger picture, as I think you guys know, look, this is just the beginning. This is just the beginning of of where we're headed. I would just say a couple of things. I think. A lot of what's happening today reminds me of the 1960s, you know, '68 in particular, that was the year Nixon was elected. Lots of assassination attempts, lots of bombings, race riots, open violence in city streets, et cetera, et cetera. I think that is in our immediate future. I would just say in broad strokes, there's three things. One is social media, as Dave alluded to, has definitely changed the game and perhaps exacerbated the potential for danger in ways that are fundamentally different than the past. That's pretty clear. Secondly, I also think part of the reason seeing this is because the legacy structure-I know people like to use the 'deep state' term. I don't. I just call it the state. The institutions of power, they're losing authority. They're losing the confidence of the population. Their power is slipping out of their hands. And so what do you do when you sense that you lash out? Yeah. And you find various modes to do that. Again, perhaps Dave is right. Maybe that's what happened in this case. I don't know. And then lastly, I would say I think this demonstrates very clearly that the right wing, if that's what you want to call it, I would just say the nationalism of the country is rising. There is our side is gaining momentum. And so there's tremendous fear in the halls of power, if you will, that they could lose. And so as a result, we're losing power. And as a result, you're going to start to see more of this. Final point on this is when institutions are wobbling, that's when they're the most dangerous. When regimes are under fire, that's when you start to see untoward, erratic behavior. And bear in mind, this is not unique to the United States. It's happening all over Europe. A lot of your opposition leaders in European Parliament, they are subverted, undermined. I mean, remember, AFD had members that were attacked. They were attacked openly in public in Germany over the summer. So anyway, the point is, I think this is part of the much larger whole. And we're going into some very dangerous times as a result. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:14:35 ] I do want to say something about that. We just mentioned, Dave, about the Aryan nations getting like all the threats from Mordecai Levy. Yeah. And then people showing up to their compound. Well, after that, there was the woman who is the source of the lawsuit that happened to them. Vicki Keenan. Right. And she was supposedly Native American. But if you actually look at her, she looks white. Like, if you look at her picture, she looks white. Reilly [ 00:15:03 ] It was like an Elizabeth Warren moment. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:15:05 ] Well, so they're scared from this, you know, these people showing up to their compound because of these articles being printed with the quote from Mordecai Levy. And so it's a very similar situation. Actually, no, no, no. Reilly [ 00:15:17 ] I've got to stop you there. The difference is actually 15 years. So the. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:15:22 ] Oh, it's a 15 year. It's a 15 year window. Reilly [ 00:15:25 ] No. So the threats that I was talking about happened in 1985 and 1986. And the reprisals happened within a week of them being put in the newspaper. The Vicki Keenan issue happened in 1999. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:15:35 ] So that was 15 years later. That was 15 years later. So there wasn't anyone else. Reilly [ 00:15:38 ] It was totally separate. A totally separate issue. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:15:42 ] She had like a muffler and it blew out or something. Reilly [ 00:15:44 ] And they thought, well, allegedly, I mean, there's there's a lot of weird coincidences and stuff. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:15:49 ] But legally, there has to be immediate temporality, right? Like there has to be. There has to be the threat. And then there has to be the follow-through within a certain time period for it to even be. Reilly [ 00:16:01 ] Right. And none of that was there. And from what I've been told, actually, it was a drug deal gone wrong that the woman had sold the Aryans some bunk drugs and that they were on fire on her car. The official story is that that Sean Keenan, the woman's nephew, dropped the wallet out the window and they pulled over and stopped to pick it up. It happened to be in front of the Aryan Nations compound. And then when they got in the car, it backfired. And then the Aryans started firing. And it's a nonsense. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:16:25 ] It's crazy, though, when you think about it, because like a lot of people, most people don't even know about that. And then they like they got they got sued. And then the money or part of the money that they got from the lawsuit, they used to build like liberal organizations here in Coeur d'Alene. Yeah. And so my point is, is like, it doesn't matter what actually happened. Right. It doesn't matter if there was like a threat. Nick was legitimately scared for his life. And now he has to move, if they want to get you. Yeah. They're going to get you. Yeah. Whether it's by charging you with a crime or if they can't charge you with a crime, they're going to sue you into nonexistence like they've done to so many people. That's true. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:17:02 ] But they're playing a dangerous game with Nick. Can you imagine if all of these Groypers are militarized? Reilly [ 00:17:08 ] Imagine if he died. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:17:09 ] Yes. Can you imagine how that would affect the community? Not well. They must know this. Reilly [ 00:17:15 ] Not well. Well, that could be part of it to radicalize and continue escalation to continue, you know, making Americans fight one another contentious with one another. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:17:27 ] It could be. I mean, look at what they did, what they try to do to Daniel Penny. Right. You know, if Daniel Penny happened four years ago, he would be locked in prison. Right. Right. Because it was just so far enough away from the whole Black Lives Matter thing that he actually got off. But like Chauvin, and I talked about this before, there were there were articles that were talking about how if Chauvin didn't get convicted locally, that the feds already had. They had them lined up for him. Wow. So if they don't if they don't get you locally, the fed, then there's going to be federal crimes. If they can't get you a federal crimes, then they're going to they're going to do a lawsuit on you. And then you're going to go down in whatever way that they can take you down. So if they want him, they're going to come and get him, you know, and in whatever way. But this is crazy. I mean, this is crazy. I mean, we're, you know, the loud doxes of Nick on Twitter. And I just tweeted this out the other day. I said, you know, we live in a day and age where. TikTok is banned, right? They're trying to ban TikTok, but, you know, OnlyFans is allowed up and you've got these chicks on there that are like boasting about getting banged by 100 dudes. Oh, my God. And then you've got like Nick's doxes up there. It's just it's insane. Cameron MacGregor [ 00:18:38 ] Well, one other thing I would add to this, because I know that whenever things like this happen, people understandably get very concerned about not just the livelihoods of people that express an opposition view, but also that opposition will survive. Look, this isn't going to stop anything. It's not going to stop the right wing in this country. If anything, it's going to strengthen it. Our momentum is gaining traction and the this effort to chop the head off the snake, if you will, in this case, or censor people. It's just going to make our side get stronger. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:19:17 ] Yeah, I think that's absolutely true. I am very concerned that this is some kind of government push to eradicate us, not just online, but but in real life. I mean, if the shooter, if Nick had been assassinated, the shooter would be lionized in the same way that Luigi Mangione would. And then all of these people were about to talk about the fem cell shooter, all of these people that have nothing to live for. I'm thinking about the Brenton Tarrant situation in New Zealand. He talked about how in his manifesto, which was excellent, he talked about how he had nothing left to live for. And so his last effort in life was this ideological, this this big bang that he was going to go out and it's how many people are doing stuff like that. And that's exactly what the fem cell shooter said in her manifesto, which was zero out of ten, manifestos. No, Brenton Tarrant's manifesto is excellent. What about what about Ted Kaczynski? Ted now. Reilly [ 00:20:14 ] OK, that was that was. Yeah, I'll agree with that. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:20:16 ] That was manifesto. So we talked about that. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:20:18 ] No matter if you're going to do this, if you know, you've got to have a well-worn written edit, edit people. Reilly [ 00:20:24 ] For God's sake, we're not just saying that goes; I'm not even going to write it. Just go read an article. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:20:28 ] Yeah, I'm not. I'm not just saying that just because, you know, as a New York Times bestseller, it was it was legitimately good. Dude was smart. Kaczynski. Yeah, I did want to say something about the the health health CEO. What was the company's United Healthcare, United Healthcare. So I said this the other day on Twitter. I was like, you have a lot of these left-wing people that are like. Boasting or, you know, propping this dude, the Mangione up; a lot of people are on TikTok. There's people making songs about him. And the thing is, is you cannot complain about the healthcare system or you cannot say that the healthcare system is corrupt or talk about how big pharma is so corrupt after this Mangione shooting. If you pushed the mask mandates and the vaccine stuff. Yeah. And all of the rest of the shit that big pharma and Pfizer were pushing back during COVID, like, how can you how can you say both things at the same time? How can you say that? Like, well, it goes back even to Obamacare, for God's sake. Right. Reilly [ 00:21:34 ] If you're really upset with healthcare, but you're sitting there asking for Medicaid expansion, asking for more Obamacare. This is exactly the problem that brought us to where we are, idiot. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:21:44 ] And how do these people like not like COVID just disappeared? It's done like no one talks about it anymore. It's just completely gone. And you've got these people that big pharma made more like three times more money off the vaccine in one year than they did off of Oxycontin in 30 years. You think that they've changed? You think that they've they've changed from trying to poach FDA employees to come work for Pfizer? Like, no, they haven't changed. It's worse. It's worse. Reilly [ 00:22:14 ] It's worse because they're expanding. They're taking all these profits. They're building additions to the hospitals, creating more infrastructure. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:22:20 ] But his impetus was a personal dispute. So I understand where you're coming from with this. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:22:25 ] Right. But a lot of left-wing people are like, 'Oh, man, the guys.' Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:22:28 ] And that's not why he did it. Right. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:22:30 ] And then there's all these songs on TikTok I'm seeing that are getting like billions of views, of like singing about healthcare. And like, you know, talking about Mangione. Anyway, I do want to say something before we move on to the next segment about what Cam said about the 1960s. There was a lot of stuff going on back then that's very similar to what's going on today. You had the Weather Underground. Reilly [ 00:22:52 ] The movement had something that, the night you had the 1968 DNC riots, DNC riots, which was coordinated and started by the same FBI agent that was going after the Aryan Nations, the drunk, alcoholic, absent father that's in that movie, The Order, which I highly recommend you go see. Yeah. Very good. But yeah, there's a lot of connections. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:23:15 ] Susan Goldberg was like the who was involved in that whole Weather Underground. Was it Susan Goldberg? Goldberg? I don't know. She was the treasurer for a while for the Black Lives Matter Foundation. She was involved. I think Bill Clinton actually pardoned her. And Bill Ayers. Two weeks before. And Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dorn. The DA for San Francisco for a while was the adopted son of Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn. And he got recalled actually in San Francisco, which is surprising because he just kept letting black people out of prison. He actually called the victims of he called the crimes. Are you called? The victims of violent crimes by phone, like his office called them and asked them to reduce their charges to help him create restorative justice in San Francisco. And he just got so bad that he got recalled. Yeah. Anyway, we can move on. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:24:08 ] Thank you. Go ahead. But speaking of Luigi Mangione and and Nick and the Groypers, there is going to be this epidemic, although Luigi wasn't really like this. He had a lot to live for. He wasn’t. He wasn’t a disaffected young man. But this, this fem cell shooting was shocking because it's so infrequently as a woman in these situations or as a girl. She was 15-year-old Natalie Samantha Rupnik? Rupnow? Rupnik? Is this wrong? I have Rupnow written down. Reilly [ 00:24:38 ] Rupnow. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:24:39 ] She killed two people, injured six people at Abundant Life Christian School in Madison, Wisconsin. And then she shot herself in the head. So I was listening to something about her today. She. She came from a super dysfunctional family. Her parents had broken up and gotten remarried three times in her life, gotten divorced, gotten remarried three times. She was 15. Her mom was a single mom that her her alcoholic father married. And then at the time she was being pushed back and forth. She was trying to decide what parent to spend the holidays with. She was getting passed around. She had a half sister. The whole thing was just, you know. Super messed up. And if you read her terrible manifesto, it reads like a like a female autist that had an unstable. Yeah. Borderline personality disorder that had an unstable upbringing. And so I think we're seeing this convergence of people that have preexisting, maybe some some ability to develop some mental health issues. And then they grow up in an unstable environment. And then the third thing is that the culture is totally unstable. And so I thought this was really interesting. It was misreported that Radfem Hitler, who I recently interviewed, was great. I know. Right. Great. Was mentioned in the manifesto. That's not true. Although as far as I can tell, this discord. Reilly [ 00:26:04 ] The discord post, I think. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:26:06 ] I think I think it probably is true. I mean, I don't know. So a lot of people are trying to implicate Radfem Hitler in this. And the implications here are really large. To what extent are people online responsible? For how other people behave and people are going to say that Nick influences groipers and things like that. And there's there's really no responsibility. I remember when I started my YouTube channel, this was years and years ago, as somebody that was subscribed to me, went to New York and killed this black homeless guy with a sword. What? Because he wanted to. He was he was racially it was racially motivated. He wanted to kill a black guy. And so a lot of the people had in the media had released. Who he was subscribed to. Oh, right. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:26:51 ] Choose a sword to do it. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:26:53 ] Yeah, it was it was totally unhinged and bizarre. But there were some people that were like, yeah, you're responsible for that. I'm like, I'm not responsible for what one person did. But but because people hate Radfem Hitler, because they hate Nick Fuentes, then they are going to try to implicate them in the actions of people that follow their work. Reilly [ 00:27:11 ] Well, so to be fair, this screenshot, which we are showing for our viewers on screen, this is a screenshot that was taken from. This is a screenshot that was taken from the record, apparently using some sort of slang that Radfem Hitler was. Moids. Voids or voids. Moids. Moids. I don't know what. But I guess to kind of bring this to connection with our last story, you know, Nick's followers get persecuted. Yeah. Right. I've been attacked for being in Nick's vicinity. You've been we've all been attacked. And so that. That kind of leads people to be anonymous on the Internet. Then that's kind of like one of the hallmarks of Gropers is they're anonymous. Right. I'm not a Gropers. I'm not anonymous. I've always used my name. So, the point of this is that what I think going on now is people from hostile movements that are against what America First stands for are creating these Gropers accounts and doing things that agitate. Yes. To give Gropers a bad name, to give Nick a bad name, and then to pin the blame of all of their actions on Nick. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:28:21 ] Exactly. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:28:22 ] Or they're straight up getting paid to do that. Well, right. Remember that social. What was it? What was that company called? Social something that did that whole campaign to go after Nick. Influensible. Influensible that went after that whole campaign and or went after Nick with the whole campaign. And then you have this this other guy that used to be that got fired from who recently Christopher Rufo. Right. Fired him. What's his what's his name? Chris Burnett. Chris. Chris Burnett. Burnett. Right. He got he got fired by Rufo and he figured out it was because of like some of the things that he was saying about Israel, which, you know, how many times have we seen that? And then he was very, like, friendly with Nick. In fact, I invited him on the show once. He said he was too nervous to talk in front of people. And then all of a sudden he turns on him. And now every tweet. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:29:15 ] Is about Nick. Every tweet. Yeah. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:29:17 ] Is about is about Nick. Yeah. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:29:19 ] So Cameron, to what extent do you think this is contrived and to what extent do you think this is organic? Both what Vince is talking about and these shooters? Cameron MacGregor [ 00:29:29 ] It's hard to say because there are a lot of very screwed up people on the left, as you know. And again, it's it's not as easy to launch subterranean campaigns as people think. Right. It's just it's somewhat of a tricky endeavor. That being said, yeah, some of it is. Absolutely. Some of it is the state. Some of it is the three. Some of it is driven by the three-letter agencies. I have I have no doubt about that. All the more reason why we have to organize ourselves, got to protect ourselves. Right. And pretending that we can sort of operate independently and express dissident views alone. That's not going to fly anymore. So the stronger we get, the more vulnerable we get in some sense. And that's really, I think, the teachable moment of all of this. We'll have to see what what comes out. I don't know. I think my own sense is that the left is becoming increasingly unhinged. I mean, look, that's how they operate anyway. You're just seeing who they really are. This puts a lie again to the notion that propaganda controls everything. This is a point I belabor. I know that. But ultimately, if you go back through history, how does the left always go through violence? Always, every single time. So we got to wake up and get prepared to deal with. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:30:49 ] Yeah, the one thing I was going to say about this Christian school shoot is it was a Christian school. So that's like one of the first times that that because that's what was like one of my arguments going back. I think going back when I was debating Destiny on the Jesse Lee Peterson podcast where you barely see non-public school shootings. It's always public school shootings. It's very rare. It's very rare that you see, like, has there ever been a shooting at a Catholic school? Reilly [ 00:31:25 ] Probably. Yeah. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:31:27 ] Maybe. Who knows how many? What about that Transylvanian shooting? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:31:30 ] Wasn't that a Christian school? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:31:31 ] So now we're seeing this now. It's very weird that now we're seeing. Well, I think as admissions get a lot more lax, right? Because it used to be when I was going like you, you had to be like there were there were rules to get to actually get accepted into a Catholic. School, right? And, you know, now these things are getting a lot more lax and you're starting to see these shootings now happen at like Catholic Catholic and Christian schools. It's very weird. And then the I don't know if you I sent you something on telegram to your personal telegram. There's a map that someone posted on Twitter and it was showing the prevalence of autism in certain parts of the country. I don't know, you know, I mean, this also is like where most people live. I get it. But if you look at it. In California, it doesn't really line up. It's pretty strange. That looks like where the white people live. Yeah, it's it's very weird. It's all it almost looks like the the Lyme disease map, which is another government operation for another day. We could talk about but you see it's it's where was this Christian school at? Where would state this take place in? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:32:40 ] Wisconsin. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:32:41 ] Wisconsin. Wisconsin. So right up there. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:32:44 ] This is diagnosis drift. I think because white leftist. Elites are more susceptible to doctors being like your kid's autistic. This is why they're saying neurodivergence. Now, a lot of things that people are saying are autism are simply just being weird. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:33:02 ] Yeah, maybe my brother's autism. He's not functional. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:33:05 ] He lives with my parents still; that's genuine autism though. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:33:08 ] He's genuinely. Well, I think there's there's obviously is a spectrum also I'm saying is like there's a lot of weird shit going on and she did have some. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:33:18 ] Some autistic tendencies the shooter. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:33:21 ] I thought you called it because I didn't look too much into but I thought you said she was autistic. Are you well? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:33:26 ] She, I think she, you know, she was on the spectrum in some way. She had major social problems, but she did have a boyfriend; then, the way that her that her manifesto read like the cadence of it was very bizarre, like, very, very bizarre. Reilly [ 00:33:41 ] So, it really bothered me: was the fact that punctuation didn't capitalize all of her eyes. It was, like, hit or miss; it was hit or miss with it. It wasn't consistent and that bothers me-if it was all lowercase like an E. E. Cummings statement, like okay fine, but it wasn't; it was just poor grammar, all the way. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:34:00 ] Comma problem, run-on sentences. The whole thing was it was a disaster. Why have we taken up half of this segment talking about the grammar, you know, because I feel like I feel like it, you know, if you're going to go out in a in an incredible blaze of glory, then your manifesto better be you better have tidy that up. Good Lord. Reilly [ 00:34:19 ] Well, that's just it. I mean, I think that there's something going on now that is radicalizing people that is not normal. That is that is a novel thing and I guess maybe I've just, you know, smoked too much tinfoil or something which is entirely possible. But the I remember having specifically a conversation with like Zach Voorhees. He was the Google whistleblower back in 2019 or 2020 and I spoke with him and he told me that they had technology to be able to put. Individuals in echo chambers where you could on your phone. Wake up roll out of bed. Look at your phone phone says is the end of the world and then you take your phone and walk over to your computer computer senses the phone near you and it presents to you the false information. Hargraves [ 00:35:04 ] You go to the library can track imagine and it IP addresses you see what I mean? Reilly [ 00:35:09 ] And so there would literally be no way for you to find out through the internet whether or not something you're being presented with is real or fake. So it could warp your perception of reality and nobody around would ever know. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:35:21 ] Well, you guys the it's all interacting digital digitally unless you intentionally follow people with the totally opposite opposite perspective. Reilly [ 00:35:30 ] Unless you follow like the BAP network in which case they'll radicalize you for fun. Yeah, radicalize you to be what allegedly happened with this Natalie Rup. No, I've heard that there was a lot of connections that she was following everybody captive dreamer seven follows and all these these people in the field Network. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:35:46 ] But the thing is, but that's every algorithm of every social media platform, right? I mean, if you if you just go on Tik-Tok right now and you make an account and then you only you screw you skip past every like, let's say you want to do like baseball, you skip past every everything else until it gets to a baseball video. And then you watch the full baseball video within the algorithms only going to show you baseball videos for like the next week. Yep. So that's how that works. And that's how that works. And then I'm sure it works with politics the same way. Yep. And it seems to be the case that only conservative people really follow the ones who follow the opposite, right? We're the we're following the left-wing journalists on Twitter. We're following the opposite, right? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:36:25 ] Yeah, YouTube is clearly cooking the books though, because even now, so I've been watching a lot of Candace Owens. We're about to talk about her but still when it auto-plays it always auto-plays to Sky News or Jordan Peterson and I never watch either of them ever. So I know that they're trying to feed us information that we did not ask for. Yeah, um, and they're doing that deliberately, and much the way that you describe it. Reilly [ 00:36:49 ] That is a frightening thing to think about this phenomenon did in fact kind of happened to the dissident right-wing in late 2019. Actually, we were all served videos showing people having like seizures in China and like collapsing in the trees. I was radicalized by that-everybody on the right wing that I know, and I saw the videos to showing people getting like welded into their apartment buildings. And then all of that. Turned out to be fake. Yep. We were all the ones saying we got to do something about this. There's a disease coming. You gotta shut down the border. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:37:23 ] Did I ever fall for a COVID? Cameron MacGregor [ 00:37:27 ] Did Cameron ever? No, but I-I don't I don't consume a lot of social media, right? So that's that's the thing. That's the difference between I suppose me and most folks. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:37:36 ] But were you in America when it started when it rolled out? Cameron MacGregor [ 00:37:39 ] No, I was not. I was in I was in Thailand actually while I was in Hong Kong and then Thailand. So I had just, just escaped. Actually, I had I knew people that were stuck in Hong Kong and locked up; and you just have to understand in Asia because of the volume of people. So wearing a mask is quite normal in that part of the world because typically if you're sick, you don't want to spread it; and vice versa. And the volume of people is so great. I mean, there's just way it makes no sense to people in the United States, but you just have to understand that you go outside your front door. You walk around. There are just waves upon waves upon waves of people. Okay, so in China, I think they had an outbreak of the bubonic plague at the same time as Covid. By the way, a lot of people in the West don't know that, so they they have a persistent fear of instability. It runs deep and it's part of the reason why the Chinese support authoritarian regimes because they understand that that's necessary to stabilize those situations and they will sacrifice their freedom for that. I would just say, look, I think I deal with a lot of young men because a lot of what I talk about focuses on on young men, particularly in the United States, but across the West and the level of psychological damage that has been done to them in particular, I think is it's just hard to put into words, right? We know the statistics. We know a lot of them are unemployed, and some of these unemployment numbers are just horrendous. I think the unemployment number in Spain among young men is in like the high 20 percentile. Okay, so you're you're you're approaching that like third of the population that's not gainfully employed at all. And I think similar numbers exist in the United States, the United Kingdom. I just think it's underrepresented but young men are traumatized. They are and there are various reasons for that. Some of this is a lack of community. There are no safeguards, right? That's the number one question. You ask where the safeguards? That are going to prevent some of these disastrous shootings. Where's the where the parents? Well, they're not there either. The family's fractured or it's a single. It's a single-parent household. Usually a woman that's especially problematic for men. Oftentimes. There's no other mentorship or authority figure at all. Nobody in the school system pays any attention. I used to be a teacher. I saw that there's no religious community of note for a lot of these kids. So they're left to just sort of spiral, and the result of that is I think industrial-scale violence that is very hard to anticipate and stop at the same time. I think the damage is even worse to the young women because for a lot of these young girls, they're having a lot of sex very early on, and that is doing real damage to them. Their ability to pair-bond; their ability to find a meaningful relationship. And so you've got basically, a collective unconscious that's screwed up, and the manifestation of that are the shootings, among other things, our society. In other words, it's completely unanchored. There's no real direction. That's that's the real story. I think that's going on here. I don't think the feds and the rest of this sort of thing. It's that the authoritative structure of society. It's collapsed and you're seeing that in the younger generations. Hargraves [ 00:41:10 ] I think we'll see it manifest in a lot of different ways. David, you have anything else? Anything to add about the shooters? Reilly [ 00:41:14 ] Yeah. Well, I mean it to build on what Cam said. I mean you can look at the way that society treats God the ultimate authority. They hold God in disdain. They hate God man as the kind of the head of the household as the the Godhead figure of the family, you know, he's despised, he's spit on, they make fun of him in the movies and all of that. And then the young men get told all this stuff in the schools, but you know, as there's something about these. These shootings, though bad as they are, obviously we condemn blah blah blah, but there have been what three or four like very recently. We had the Trump shooter, crooks. We had Mangione, and now we've got this Natalie Rupno figure. And it's it's interesting to note that the two men, Crooks, and Mangione, they both punched up. They took a shot at Donald Trump. They took a shot at the CEO of a the world's largest healthcare company and then she killed kids and then the woman goes into a school and shoots defenseless little children. And you know what makes it worse is the fact that like women all over this country do this every fucking day when they commit abortions. That's true too as as as a kind of contraceptive murdering indiscriminately. Yep. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:42:39 ] And I haven't. How long were you like that? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:42:43 ] It's fucking women man. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:42:46 ] Was he like that the whole second? I just felt like a hot Italian breath on me. So gross. I do. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:42:53 ] I want to say something real quick before I forget is that when you look into the you were just saying about God. I one thing I've noticed is if you want to get in touch with what the young people are like how their culture is, is shifting. You can get on TikTok. Yeah. And look at it like young guys are moving and this is one thing that young girls are not doing; young guys are going back to God. I was I was looking at something there's a there's this thing called the TikTok shop. Have you heard of it? No, where you can like buy things on TikTok and it's kind of like its own little economy, right? Like when they talk about banning TikTok, they're talking about getting rid of thousands, tens of the hundreds of thousands of small businesses people that are making a living on the TikTok platform. Right now, and there's this the this brand that's one of the most popular brands on the TikTok shop right now, and it's a Christian brand, and 90 plus percent of their customers are young men. It's like a gym brand, and it's almost more popular than Gymshark. These like Christian brands are going crazy right now. In fact, my son, without me telling him to, you know, because I don't want to force this stuff on them-kids so that they rebel and then you know, they they don't want to do it right. My son is reading the Bible every single night before he goes to bed. I never told him to; he asked for a Bible. I gave him a Bible. He's reading the Bible every single night and I said what made you want what made you get interested in God? What made you get interested in Christianity and so forth and he said TikTok. He said Instagram. He said the reals he said because all of the like some of the baseball people that he. Followed. Those they're all taught. They're always talking about God and reading Bible versus these young guys. And so it's a big trend right now with young men. They're they're searching for something to fill that void. Yeah, to fill the emptiness that the loneliness that they're feeling and they can't find it through brotherhood, through men's groups. Like we were talking about last episode. They can't-they can't fulfill that with anything but a higher power, but God; it's the only thing that's doing it for them. And so you see this this shift happening. And you were talking about how they hate God, the Left hates God, the media these people that are the culture shapers or were once were the culture shapers through the media through newspaper through things like this through the institutions. Now, the trust in these things has collapsed and it's not working anymore with the rise of the internet; those people, if you look at the the thing that I sent you on Telegram-Operation Shylock. Right, and now that the holidays are upon us. I think this is this is an important thing to touch on before you move on to the next segment. Operation Shylock was basically about turning Christmas into a mockery, turning Easter into a mockery, turning all of the Christian holidays into a mockery, right? Making Easter about the Easter Bunny, making Christmas about Santa Claus and Coca-Cola and Christmas presents, you know, making all of these, these very important Christian holidays about something other than what it's supposed to be. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:46:14 ] Pray tell, were Gentiles responsible for this? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:46:17 ] They were not, for the most part. If you look at Operation Shylock and you look into it, you know, I posted about this on Telegram. There's a bunch of screenshots. It's going to be hard to find from the actual article, but go ahead, Dave. It looks like you. Reilly [ 00:46:30 ] Well, I mean, I could read a little bit. It's so interesting. You know, so the book Operation Shylock was written by Philip Roth. Philip Roth is also the author who wrote the, oh, it wasn't Man in the High Castle. What was it? It was the book where, like, Charles Lindbergh becomes president and America becomes like a total Nazi dictatorship. Well, that was Man in the High Castle, but is there another one? Oh, then it must have been that one because Philip Roth wrote like a whole fever dream about it because he grew up hearing. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:47:00 ] So he was responsible for this. So anyway, yeah. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:47:03 ] Yeah. If you look. Look into Operation Shylock. I've made some posts about it. Yeah. Reilly [ 00:47:07 ] It's going on about Nazis, the Holocaust, the King David Hotel. What does this have to do with Christmas? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:47:13 ] Well, there's some screenshots in my post that I sent you that talk about this. But yeah, so, I mean, like, this is the plan that they've, yeah, here we are. How Irving Berlin descended the major Christian festivals by composing Easter Parade and White Christmas. Like, you know, all the Christmas songs. All the Christmas songs were. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:47:34 ] Written. Yeah. Yeah. Written by. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:47:36 ] So it's something to note. Like, they have tried to bury the body for a long time. And the earth that was over the body, that was hiding the body is beginning to erode. Well, of course. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:47:53 ] And that's why we're seeing a widespread reversal of these things because in their hubris, as always, they've gone too far. This would be a great transition to the Candace Owens segment. Reilly [ 00:48:03 ] Okay. Did you want to say something? I wanted to read this quote. Oh, go ahead. Read the quote. I wanted to read this quote. Okay. So this is from the New York Times. The radio was playing Easter Parade, and I thought, but this is Jewish genius on par with the Ten Commandments. God gave Moses the Ten Commandments. Then he gave to Irving Berlin Easter Parade with White Christmas, the two holidays that celebrate the divinity of Christ, the divinity that is at the very heart of the Jewish rejection of Christianity. And what does Irving Berlin brilliantly do? He desecrates them both. Easter, he turns into a fashion show. And Christmas. Into a holiday about snow. Gone is the gore and the murder of Christ, down with the crucifix and up with the bonnet. He turns their religion into schlock. But nicely, nicely, so nicely that the goyim don't even know what hit them. They love it. Everybody loves it. The Jews especially. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:48:51 ] Jews loathe Jesus. There you go. So this is something I've been talking about on my show for years now is Operation Shylock. Schlock, right? You know, this is the American dream. The image that you have in your head of the American dream was also invented by Hollywood. Hollywoodism. Right, Hollywoodism. That's a great documentary you can find on Rumble, I think, still. They took it off of YouTube. But so, you know, this is, this is, this is what's, and now people are beginning to return with the, with the internet. Like we talked about in a couple of segments ago, we can use the internet. We can use technology to our advantage. To fight back against these people that have shaped our culture in a certain way, intentionally for decades and decades and decades, people are beginning to see Christ, people are beginning to seek truth, and as Cameron always talks about on his YouTube show, you know, they, they, and like you just said, they went too far, they overplayed their hand, and we're going to win. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:49:56 ] They will lose every single time because as you're seeing from the shooters, as you're seeing from people that are returning to Christ. There is a void in the human spirit that can only be filled with a higher power, and when you don't feel that void, and everybody has gone through the struggle where they try to fill this void with hedonism, with monetary gain, even with, with work, even with some exercise, healthy things sometimes, you cannot fill this void with, this void with anything but God, and we're seeing this just pop up in all sorts of ways. I mean, I think that that theme can probably be applied to every single thing. We talk about, um, I did want to talk about this Candace Owens thing. I understand that. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:50:39 ] Speaking of anti-Semitism, yes. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:50:41 ] She has been given the anti-Semite of the year award by Stop Anti-Semitism, who have banned me on Twitter. They blocked me on Twitter. Reilly [ 00:50:50 ] They blocked, they blocked you? Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:50:52 ] They blocked me, yeah. Reilly [ 00:50:53 ] Wow. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:50:54 ] That was pretty bad, yeah. Reilly [ 00:50:55 ] Now there, there's an award. Yeah, yeah. That's good. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:50:57 ] Because I don't even remember why. I, I've, I'm a little less polished. I'm a little more polished on Twitter than I am. Reilly [ 00:51:05 ] They nominated me for anti-Semite of the week in 2021. Oh, okay, nice. Oh, really? Congratulations. Congratulations, well done. I think, I think I won. I believe it. Of the week. I lost the month and the year. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:51:17 ] Who was a bigger anti-Semite than you? Reilly [ 00:51:18 ] Uh, I think it was E. Michael Jones. Oh, okay. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:51:21 ] Fair, fair enough. That won. Reilly [ 00:51:22 ] I could be wrong about that, but. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:51:24 ] I am getting a lot of pushback from the dissident right. They're like, we've been saying this stuff for decades. We've been saying this for years and years, especially after the USS Liberty, um, video. That they put out. And I understand where everyone's coming from. We touched on this briefly last week. Do you guys believe, let's start with Karen. Do you believe that the, that Candace Owens is a net positive to the conversation? Although she's repeating decade-old talking points that we have covered extensively in our own programs that are being well-received by a mainstream audience because she is a hot, black, rich woman. Do you still think it's a net positive? Cameron MacGregor [ 00:52:02 ] Uh. I would quibble with the 'hot.' Just saying. SPEAKER_7 [ 00:52:05 ] Oh, she's beautiful. By a lot. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:52:07 ] Hey, hey. Come on. She's very pretty. She's got a symmetrical face. She's got nice skin. Uh. Cameron MacGregor [ 00:52:13 ] One man's meat is poison. True. Look, I, I think it's a net positive that anything that's consistent with the, the awakening, the re-spiritualization of the population is, uh, I mean, she's moving things in the right direction. I certainly understand. We have to understand where these critics are coming from, right? Um, she's not saying anything new. She doesn't have a unique perspective. She really doesn't. It took courage to say what she did, but she is not the leader of the right in any meaningful sense. That being said, whatever it takes to mainstream these ideas is a net positive, and I think we should interpret it as such. Um, that, that being said, To a lady concerns of other folks out there about candlelight Candace getting credit and so forth. This is just the beginning, folks. This is the appetizer, maybe. This is the sniff before the appetizer. So I guess what I'm saying is she's sort of just barely opening the door. The door is going to get unhinged shortly. That's where we're headed. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:53:22 ] Definitely. And I think she's going to radicalize a lot of people that are still mainstream conservatives, libertarians. I think that people are going to be on this libertarian-to-fascist pipeline, and there's probably not much they can do about it. Yeah. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:53:37 ] I mean, she has a huge audience. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:53:39 ] Huge audience. Huge audience. Reilly [ 00:53:40 ] I don't know why anybody would be upset. I remember seeing an article, it was like a parody article, about a bunch of white supremacists that got upset when Kanye West wore the White Lives Matter shirt. And it's like, why would you care? He's promoting a good thing. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:53:57 ] Let him. Well, you got a lot of people. You got a lot of people that purity spiral, and they're like, oh, Candace Owens is a blah, blah, blah, whatever. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:54:04 ] No, I understand, because it's damaging. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:54:05 ] She's got a huge audience, and she's like. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:54:06 ] It's damaging to our ego. We've been saying this stuff for how long? How long? Reilly [ 00:54:10 ] But you need to say it over. Look at what happens in the media, right? They say it over and over. Assad gassed his own people. Right, right. Assad bombed it. 600,000 Syrians dead because of Assad. Like, over and over and over again. You know, they tell the lie, they make it big, and then they keep repeating it over and over again. Where have we heard that? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:54:29 ] Who was it that said if 10% of the population believes a certain thing that eventually becomes like 100% of the population? I don't know if that's like how true that is, but the fact that she has such a big audience and she's saying the things that she does, not only does it educate other people that have never heard these things, but it also helps us to normalize these narratives and these ideas that, you know, we all got completely shit canned for and canceled for. Right. And banned from everything for and everything like that. So, I mean, look at all the people that have come out recently. Dan Bilzerian, this guy's got a billion followers on Instagram. He's talking about the USS Liberty. Like, look at all these people that are saying these things that we said so many years ago. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:55:17 ] And it legitimizes us. I think it's a good thing. And it's vindicating, too. Right. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:55:19 ] I think it's a good thing. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:55:20 ] And that way it's ego gratifying because I'm like, all right, well, I wasn't insane. I, USS Liberty was always what I started off when I was trying to red pill. Mmm hmm. Yeah. About certain issues. Yeah. And it was pretty effective because people would be like, 'Wow, our government and Israel did that.' And covered it up. And covered it up. Yeah. And they didn't believe it typically, but then they start to look into it on their own. And then, you know, six months later, you're reading the Daily Stormer every day, which is basically what happened to me. But I am very happy. And I think that another positive development is that I'm seeing alternative media collate in such a way along the lines. Hargraves [ 00:55:59 ] Of whether or not you will discuss Jewish power. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:56:02 ] And this is definitely a development with the Tim Pool and Daily Wire thing, because I think that he's looking at the climate. He's like, I can't touch this. And, you know, I'm kind of a douchebag also. And I need to continue making millions of dollars. I think he's grown accustomed to a certain lifestyle. And so he's seeing an opportunity to collate with these with these normies, with these conservative normies without ever really having to talk about any of the important issues. And that's where the battle lines are being drawn right now. Are you going to talk about Israel? Are you going to talk about Jews? Or are you going to stay in these conservative normie lanes? Talk about the Constitution. Talk about voting. Is that really what we're going to do? And we're seeing people really definitively and aggressively choose sides. And I'm, I'm happy to see. Yeah. Cameron MacGregor [ 00:56:50 ] Yeah, this is this is a very important point. OK, let me just elaborate on this for a moment, because. For so long. I have dealt with people that have told me again and again, white people are different. We believe we we're carrying the standard of multiracialism. We think it's moral. That has nothing to do with anything. This is about power. This is about who you think is going to win. Tim Poolside believes that the Jewish domination of our government, of our foreign policy, is baked in. It's entrenched. It can't be changed. It's immovable. And by the way, the vast majority of your congressional body, of the political structure in this country, of institutions, Fortune 500 companies, whatever, they believe that. OK. However, in the distance, there is this image that's developing, this storm that's gathering, that represents an alternative power that's gaining in strength. Now, why do I say this? Well, number one, it's because the domination of our government is beginning to sunset. It has peaked and now it's beginning to decline. That's the first piece. However, what do you think the Fortune 500 companies are going to do? And these academic institutions and the normies that live next door? What do you think they're going to do the minute, the instant, the second that the power structure begins to shift away from those people? They're going to suffer. They're going to sprint into our camp. They're not going to walk. They're not going to debate. They're not going to fight. They're going to completely switch sides. We're at the very beginning of this. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:58:40 ] That's awesome. Yeah. You know, my theory on this whole Tim Pool thing is well said there, Cameron. That was awesome. Rebecca Hargraves [ 00:58:47 ] Yeah. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 00:58:47 ] By the way, make sure you go follow him on YouTube, Neo Masculinity on YouTube. Cameron MacGregor [ 00:58:52 ] Just one more thing on this, Vince. People are spiritual animals. But as such, we respond to metaphysical properties. We respond to the transcendent, to godliness, as Dave said earlier. That's on our side, OK? That doesn't rest on their side. That's number one. But secondly, we're animals. We respond to power dynamics. Nobody believes this shit except purple-headed freaks that go to Harvard and are over socialized. But I say that because. Even though it's somewhat comical, people have fixated on the purple-headed freak and said, 'See, they're demented.' How can we possibly? No, that's not the problem. It's the power structure. This is about power. And the people in power who are dominated by the Zionists are squandering it. They're destroying their position. They're extending themselves into wars that they should not fight. They've destroyed the economy. They've flooded our countries with POCs, and they have awakened the masses. This is why Candace Owens is doing what she's doing. She she recognizes the shift, and she's trying to corner the market. If you want to criticize her for that, that's fine. You can. But ultimately, she's doing what she's doing because she senses the direction of change. It's in our favor, not in theirs. Yes, absolutely. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:00:26 ] Yeah. And I think that for those that are on the beginning of this journey of understanding Jewish power and the Jewish psyche, the heart of all of this, the reason that they continue to overplay their hands and then and then they are no longer favored in public opinion is and that hubris that we were discussing earlier is that they believe that in the end they will win and that they are God's chosen people. Can you imagine the power that would give you if you were sanctioned to behave immorally and you believed at the end of this earth you would be the only ones like that? I mean, that is a potent drug and we have to think about this as a spiritual battle. And that's what people are not understanding. I get questions all the time. Like, why are you so obsessed with this? Why are you so obsessed with this? I'm like, because when you break down every single issue, it's it's what matters. This is this is a spiritual battle for the heart of the Western world. And we have to deal with these issues if anybody wants to do anything important in their jobs or lives. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:01:24 ] Yeah. And these people remember they deal with this. They deal in the tangible. They deal in the quantifiable. What do I mean by that? OK, for them, it's a material structure. It's all about money, man. It's all about, hey, I bribed this person. I spend this amount of money. Right. Again, you'll hear a lot of economists that will tell you that ultimately it's all made up. No, no, it's not. There's this substance called humanity, which is a metaphysical being. And that metaphysical being spontaneously reorganizes itself based on higher authority that cannot be controlled, that is intangible and that is far more powerful than anything that's empirical, measurable, bribable, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. That's ultimately why there is reversion to the mean. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:02:16 ] Right. And we should exploit that property in in ourselves and in the Jewish community, because I think that they're underestimating. That we do have this desire for for God, for spirituality, for truth, and for righteousness. And they they seem to not understand that about Gentiles. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:02:37 ] So because it doesn't because it's not in themselves. Right. Right. And again, this is why I said what I did in the last episode about destabilizing Syria. Right. It sounds great. You create all this chaos. It's the same thing. It's the same principle. I'm advancing propaganda in the Western world. I'm poisoning these people with subversive ideas because ultimately that's going to accomplish my objective. But it doesn't do that. It accomplishes the opposite thing because of what you said. It's the void that must be filled. This is what Vince said earlier. People need that spiritual orientation. And if you deprive them of it, they will seek it out. And ultimately, that power will overwhelm the opposition. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:03:22 ] You know, it's interesting about COVID. And I acknowledge you said that is when during COVID, when we were all like locked down, when I was still living in California, people were locked down in their houses. What we did as neighbors, you know, people that we never even talked to before, people that would just drive by you and not even look at you as they went to work, started hanging out with each other as they were deprived of that, that relationship with people of that human connection. They sought that human connection more than ever before. And so after that, we became like best friends with like 12 of our neighbors. We used to have parties outside, out front. We would, we would, we became really good friends, really well connected with a lot of our neighbors because we were deprived of that human connection. And so as humans, we sought that human connection. So it's very, very interesting. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:04:14 ] Isn't that what we're all doing right now? Spiritually, like with this show, we have met like-minded individuals that we feel like will empower our, our spiritual position. That's what we do at church. That's what we do in the community in North Idaho. I mean, that's what this entire thing is about. And Cameron's right. Back to what he said, this will make us stronger and it will help us ready ourselves against whatever Jews and the government have coming our way. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:04:43 ] But you repeat yourself. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:04:45 ] I know. Yeah, really. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:04:46 ] I do want to say something about the, the, the Tim Pool thing. You know, because Brett Cooper, actually I got, I got an email like months ago, someone that was a whistleblower within the Daily, within Daily Wire that was emailing me and saying like, Hey, you know, I have this person here that works for the Daily Wire as well. And they want to talk about how Brett Cooper is going to be leaving the Daily Wire. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:05:10 ] No way. Yes. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:05:11 ] Yeah. And I was like, well, can you give me an interview with them? And they're, they're like, well, we'll see what we, I'll see what I can do. It turned into nothing. Well, this happened recently. Brett Cooper left the Daily Wire and we saw all of these, like all of these like rumors about how Tim Pool was going to sell to the Daily Wire. And as these rumors are swirling on Twitter, Tim Pool tweets out this, um, this poll on his, uh, Twitter account and he tweets out 'Israel or Palestine.' Did you see this? No question. Yeah. Right. And I guess somehow, I don't know how, because these polls usually, yeah. Get just completely, uh, destroyed by people on Twitter, but Israel won by a lot. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:05:57 ] 70 to 30, I think. Yeah. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:05:59 ] And then he quote tweeted it and he was like, wow, or something like that. Right. He said something like, wow, or look, look what we have here or whatever. And now we're seeing this article from, you know, these, these articles from these, these news sources talking about how Tim Pool is selling the Daily Wire. Now here's, here's my question, right? We heard recently about how. Uh, Tim Pool, Tim cast lost a shit ton of money after this whole Russia thing happened, where they were getting money from hundreds of thousands of dollars, tenant media. And they were like part of that. Uh, they had a lot of employees. They started firing their employees. This was happening. This happened right after I went out there. So for those, a lot of people don't know this, but Tim Pool, I was invited, I was going to be on Tim Cast on Tim Cast IRL. Uh, actually Cassandra Fairbanks. Very good person. Very good friend. Uh, she set this up for me and I was, my travel was paid for. My hotel was paid for. Uh, I got flown out to, to, to Washington, DC, had to drive, take an Uber. They had a driver pick me up from Washington, DC, driving me to West Virginia, put me up in a hotel. And now the driver I think is gone. Cassandra Fairbanks. She's gone. Isn't no, no longer working for, for Tim Cast. Cassandra got fired right after I got invited onto Tim's show and he cancelled on me the day up. He cancels on me the day of my theory. And I think I'm right about this is that he didn't know that Cassandra set, set me up to be a guest on, on, on, on Tim's cast. And once he found out. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:07:44 ] He was pissed. He was. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:07:46 ] Cause not only did he, he say he wasn't going to be there, but no one was going to be there because usually they have multiple hosts, but no one's there to have me on. Right. So I get cancelled. I get sent back home. Cassandra gets fired like a couple of weeks later. Right. This whole thing happens with the, the, the Russian money. And then, and now he's, he's supposedly reportedly selling to, uh, Ben Shapiro. He's selling his operations to. So did he run out of money? You know, w w like what, what is, what is actually, um, actually happened now? He said that his mom was sick. This is the reason why. And he actually DM'ed me himself and he, he followed me on Twitter. Yeah. He DM'ed me himself and he said, listen, this is like real. My mom was like, had like something going on. So I'm not like bashing him. Cause I, I don't know. You know, a lot of people have their theories, but all I know is I asked, you know, are you going to reschedule? Like, and I never got the reschedule. So. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:08:45 ] Well, who, who has he had that, that is like you? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:08:49 ] Nick. Reilly [ 01:08:50 ] Yeah. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:08:50 ] But do you, do you remember how he treated Nick? Reilly [ 01:08:53 ] Yep. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:08:53 ] Yeah. He treated him horribly, so he was trying to tone police the whole time. Reilly [ 01:08:57 ] So, so here's the thing, right? Uh, here's the story. If anybody wants to read the original story, it's on mediarightnews. com. Uh, and this is the story that broke it. And frankly, I know both the person who wrote that story. The person who runs that website. And I also happen to know the whistleblower who called the story in this happened. And from what I understand, the Daily Wire became a minority silent owner or like a, some sort of silent partner with Tim cast in October and that they've been working out this transition since October. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:09:35 ] And that dates Tenant Media falling apart. Reilly [ 01:09:37 ] It predates Tenant Media falling apart. Right. But yeah. I mean, so it's, it's kind of sketchy, right? Because you've got this like foreign outfit that's backed by RT that's essentially laundering money and tricking, you know, people into it, into taking it. I mean, we don't really know. We don't really know the full story yet there. We don't really know what Lauren Chen's motivation was. We don't know if. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:10:01 ] I highly doubt she knew, but they did pick a certain group of people that would never talk about the Jews. Why? Why did they do that? Reilly [ 01:10:09 ] Well. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:10:10 ] They must have anticipated that the power was going to stay on the side of the normie conservative. Every one of those guys is exactly the same. Dave Rubin, Tim Pool, who else? Benny Johnson, Taylor, whatever the hell. Reilly [ 01:10:23 ] Taylor. No, not Taylor. SPEAKER_7 [ 01:10:25 ] Taylor Lorenz. I'm sorry. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:10:28 ] But yeah, no, you're right. I think, I think, yeah, we all know right there, you know, you've got Prager or you, you've got Breitbart news on their website. It says born in America, conceived in Israel. You've got the Daily Wire. You've got Jordan, you know, you've got all these different people. Jordan Peterson was like met Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro met with BB Netanyahu. They had this, this, this dinner. But, but yeah, I mean like this is, it is, it is very, very, very weird. I don't know if he ran out of money. He had no other option. Cause like he started letting go of people before this, this rumor started swirling around. So I don't know what's going on there. But yeah. But I mean, this is what they do, right? Any sort of alternative media that crops up that has a big audience, they try to oust them or they try to control them. They try to. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:11:18 ] Yeah, but Tim Pool has no problem being controlled. He has no problem being controlled. And he has such an audience. So much. They're making so much money. They have such a large audience. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:11:27 ] A hundred thousand dollars per episode. They were. They were. I don't know what they're, how they're making money. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:11:32 ] Well, but Daily Wire, they're going to, Daily Wire is a billion-dollar company. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:11:35 ] No, I know the Daily Wire is. But how does Tim Pool make money? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:11:38 ] Because people just throw money at you. Oh yeah. I'm sure. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:11:41 ] Is that the only thing that's running the entire, do you guys know that they have five different studios? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:11:46 ] That is unnecessary. Reilly [ 01:11:48 ] Okay. Hold on a second. Yeah. Listen, all of our fans in Qatar. Okay. You can send us a Cutter. Cutter. Whatever. You can send us money at thebacklash. net/ donate. We take Bitcoin. It's anonymous. You can send us as much as you want. Okay. Oh yeah. Make sure to power chat. Power chat. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:12:03 ] Dot live slash the backlash. Yeah. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:12:05 ] We'll go through them at the end. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:12:06 ] I have been demonetized for so long. We don't get super chats. Actually, this might be a nice, a nice time for us to take a little bit of a break, read some power chats, and then we can get back on it. I don't want to destroy the momentum for the show, but I do want to get something back. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:12:19 ] I like reading them at the end, to be honest. Do you want to, do you want to wait? Yeah. Let's just wait till the end. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:12:23 ] Okay. That's fine. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:12:23 ] Oy vey. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:12:24 ] Oy vey. Oy gevalt. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:12:26 ] Anyway, Cameron, do you, are you going to, do you have anything? Oh, you said you were in Thailand when COVID happened. Were you in Bangkok? Oh. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:12:38 ] Is that a serious question? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:12:39 ] Yeah. I'm serious. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:12:43 ] At that, I was in, it was in Bangkok and Chiang Mai. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:12:47 ] Did you see any lady boys? He wouldn't know if they were good lady boys. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:12:53 ] Yeah. If I, if I have any numbers in my Rolodex, I'll send it right over to you guys. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:12:57 ] Perfect. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:12:58 ] Just ask. Just say the word. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:13:00 ] The bigger the bulge, the better. By the way, speaking of that, Brett Cooper. What? Actual chick? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:13:08 ] What? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:13:09 ] Are you serious? So people say there's some people on Twitter that are saying that she's. Brett Cooper's a chick. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:13:14 ] We had a really serious discussion today, so I will indulge you. But before we went on, we had a very heated discussion about whether or not Brett Cooper is hot. I find her look refreshing and adorable, and I think she's very attractive. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:13:29 ] She's got a huge nose. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:13:30 ] You also think Candace Owens is gorgeous. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:13:33 ] Candace Owens is also very beautiful. Yeah. I don't think we trust you. You see everyone is handsome and everyone is beautiful. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:13:39 ] I just find people attractive. Maybe that's it. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:13:42 ] Isn't it weird that she kind of looks like Ben Shapiro's sister, though? She does. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:13:45 ] Except Abby Shapiro's like way Jewier. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:13:48 ] Well, yeah. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:13:50 ] Well, yeah. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:13:51 ] Brett Cooper's not Jewish. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:13:53 ] I hope not. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:13:54 ] But that picture, it's not really, but she does kind of look like her. Brett Cooper does kind of look like. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:14:01 ] Wasn't she? Kind of. Wasn't she in Ender's Game? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:14:06 ] Who? Abby Shapiro? Cameron MacGregor [ 01:14:09 ] No, no. Brett Cooper. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:14:10 ] She's an actress. I don't know. She was an actress. Those are some huge. Really? I didn't know that. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:14:15 ] Milkers. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:14:16 ] Just enormous. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:14:18 ] Milkers. Yep. Those are those milkers. Look at Cameron's look in his lips. Cameron, are we on a delay here? He's looking at his lips. He's just thinking about the milk. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:14:31 ] Ew. Gross. Ew. Poor Abby. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:14:35 ] Cameron likes white milk. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:14:37 ] She is like a classical musician, and all everybody talks about is her being Ben Shapiro's sister and her having huge breasts. That sucks. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:14:45 ] That milk will poison you. That milk is as poisoned as the wells. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:14:49 ] Get it together, everybody, except for Cameron, who, as usual, is behaving well. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:14:55 ] Well, he's staring at the screen, licking his lips. I don't know. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:14:59 ] He's just... I can't see what you're... Oh, that's right. That's right. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:15:03 ] Oh, you're supposed to play along with the bit, Cam. You've got to play along with the bit. No. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:15:07 ] He's looking to see if Brett Cooper was in Ender's Game. I guarantee that's what he's doing. He's Googling. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:15:11 ] He's Googling Abby Shapiro nudes right now. Reilly [ 01:15:19 ] He's really happy we started this super serious show. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:15:22 ] I know, right? Yeah. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:15:25 ] She's an actress, right? I didn't know. I don't know. I have no idea. She's an actress. Yeah. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:15:29 ] Yeah. Yeah. But I think she was like a child star. I didn't know that. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:15:32 ] I thought she was an actress. I thought she was in Ender's Game. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Hargraves [ 01:15:37 ] Man. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:15:37 ] How am I even supposed to transition to the next segment? How am I supposed to do that now? Cameron MacGregor [ 01:15:42 ] I've never watched a single show of Tim Pool. Never seen anything. He's there. I don't know what he says. I don't know anything. Reilly [ 01:15:52 ] I don't think you missed anything, Cam. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:15:53 ] Oh, he's such a fart sniffer. Reilly [ 01:15:55 ] He wears a beanie. That's what I know. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:15:56 ] He's like bald, but not in the way that Vince is bald. He's bald in like a sad way, you know? Reilly [ 01:16:01 ] He wears a beanie, except he's wearing a hat. Except for the times when a millennial Matt pulled it off. When he doesn't hold on. SPEAKER_7 [ 01:16:16 ] Oh, man. Oh, boy. That's a classic. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:16:18 ] What's that sound effect? That's an alt-right classic. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:16:20 ] Oh, my gosh. That's funny. Reilly [ 01:16:22 ] Matt was doing the Lord's work that day. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:16:24 ] He truly was. That's back in the day of the frickin'... That's some old stuff. That was even after the He Will Not Divide Us, the Windu stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which most people remember. Most people coming around just recently don't even know about that, the Windu. Reilly [ 01:16:37 ] This goes back. Oh, yeah. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:16:38 ] This goes back a ways. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:16:39 ] The Shia LaBeouf lore? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:16:41 ] Yeah. Reilly [ 01:16:41 ] Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I think Matt, frankly ... Shia LaBeouf is now ... Look, I think Matt was responsible for his conversion, because it was after he got in a fight, and then he got arrested, he hit rock bottom, and then he came to Jesus Christ. Oh, man. That's just what we were just talking about. I think that that wouldn't have happened without Matt, so God bless him. Wow. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:17:01 ] That's a deep cut. I think Matt converted Shia LaBeouf to Catholicism. Who would have thought? I'm proud of my godson. I think it's ... Every step in this conversation is making it more difficult to transition. Reilly [ 01:17:11 ] To get to the real topic. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:17:12 ] What are we talking about next? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:17:15 ] We're talking about France and Germany. The massive collapse of European government. And the massive collapse of European government. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:17:20 ] Cameron, take it away. You're our guy. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:17:23 ] Can you give us a little rundown on what's happening in France and Germany? The parliamentary system is very confusing to Americans. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:17:31 ] Yeah. There's a lot. There's a lot going on over there. But let me just try to simplify things a little bit. So in parliamentary systems, you don't ... You can basically hold an election if there's enough of an opposition that casts doubt upon the authority of the leader in government. Okay? So that's why there's just more frequency of elections over there. In some sense, it's better than our system, because it's more responsive. In other ways, it's not. But over the last, I would say, six months or so, we've had a lot going on. Six months. Really, since the summer, there was a big election in European Parliament. Basically, European states across the European Union voted for the right. Okay? Now, what does the right mean? Basically, opposition to the globalist mainstream parties, basically. Okay? Not right-wing the way we are quite yet, but trending in that direction. They had a massive showing in the parliamentary elections. This caused a cascading effect, specifically in France and Germany. It was a big moment for French President Macron. He responded to the parliamentary elections. Basically, a massive victory for Le Pen and the National Rally, who represents the right-wing party. They're not really that right-wing. We'll get into that in just a minute. But in any event, Macron basically called the bluff of the French voters and said, look, do you really want these people in government? Right. And the French voters said, yes, we do. So, there's different rounds that they go through to elect. But basically, what happened is that all the socialists in France got together and they said, look, we're not going to let the National Rally, again, who's strongly anti-immigrant, if you want to call it that. They basically believe in strong borders and deporting illegal immigrants, not giving them healthcare benefits, things of that nature. They basically said, we're not going to let these people in government. So, they all banded up. And the result was you get this mess of a government that's a smorgasbord of a coalition, largely consisting of the Popular Front, which is the leftist bloc. And that itself consists of three or four different parties, most of whom are just outright socialist lunatics on the one hand. Then you've got the middle, which is what's left of Macron's government, which is basically the Renaissance Party at this stage. There's some others in there. But it's really the Renaissance. And then Marine Le Pen's party, which is the National Rally on the right. The result of that is you've got a government of people who don't like each other and can only agree on one thing. They don't want to implement any austerity measures, any fiscal cuts of any merit whatsoever. So Macron's prime minister, so Macron basically is the president and he runs the country as a whole. But the Congress, if you want to call it that, the National Assembly in France is run by the prime minister. The prime minister represents Macron and his government. He was trying to implement a budget that was somewhat sane because they have to submit that to the European Union, which is another body that sits over top. The socialists on the left and the socialists on the right, again, National Rally and Popular Front, got together and they said, you know what? We don't want any fiscal austerity at all. So they voted a no. No confidence. Vote against Michel Barnier, who's the prime minister in National Assembly for Macron. So he's out of the job. And basically Macron's government has collapsed. In Germany, something very similar happened. You had a coalition government led by Olaf Scholz. He's the chancellor. But he basically represents a tiny party in another broader coalition. He never really had a popular mandate. But AFD, that's Alternative for Deutschland. They are the— the nationalist party in Germany, the only real right-wing in Germany. They did very well in the European parliamentary elections. And so the majority, this three-party bastardized coalition that's led by Scholz, has come under pressure in successive waves of elections. Finally came to a head this past week, another no-confidence vote. So basically his government, which consists of three parties, the Greens, the Social Democrats, and I think it's called the Free Democrats, they are out. Their coalition has basically collapsed. So, where does that leave Europe? Well, basically they're in recession. The whole continent, the German economy is falling apart. We'll talk more about that in a minute. They all have immigration problems. And they're all stuck with coalition governments that can't get along. So, the European Union as a project is cratering. That's where we stand today. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:22:23 ] Yeah. Did you see the—? So, here's my question. How long are these people going to be able to co-opt these parties, these movements, these leaders that are upfront initially, right-wing, nationalist, saying the things that we want them to say, pushing for the things that we want them to push for? How long are the powers that be, or whatever you want to call them, going to be able to infiltrate and corrupt those parties, those people? I mean, you look at Meloni, you look at the AFD. How long before they're not even going to be able to do that anymore? Because that's the thing. I mean, that's what they do, right? You have the rise of these groups, the rise of these parties, the rise of these people, the rise of these leaders. Donald Trump was one of them, where they're able to infiltrate, they're able to take control, and they're able to redirect. Like, how— Yeah. Go ahead. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:23:27 ] Yeah, I'm sorry, Vince. Finish your question, please. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:23:28 ] No, that's it. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:23:29 ] That's what I— Yeah, so here's a way to think about it for Americans, because it is confusing, and countries are very different, right? France is different than Germany, is different than Italy, et cetera, et cetera. You've got the thing called the European Union, then you have the Eurozone. They're not the same. Some countries are in both. Some countries are not, okay? But the way to think about it is, the European Union, which is this international body that sits on top, it has a parliament, it has a commission, it has a central bank, that is sort of like the two-party system in the United States. It is a permanent impediment to any rise of a nationalist government, okay? Meaning that the staffers, the policymakers, the research assistants, the bureaucracies that run Europe, they're all centered in this internationalist structure, and that feeds into the national governments, all right? So until you get rid of the European Union, nothing fundamentally will change. Like in the United States, until you have a third party, a third way, a new direction and new alternative, nothing fundamentally will change. However, what is happening in Europe today is fundamentally important. It's the leading edge of what's coming into the United States as well, just, I would say, six to 12 months down the road. SPEAKER_7 [ 01:24:50 ] Mm-hmm. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:24:50 ] Is the fiscal collapse of the European Union. The French voluntarily saying, 'You know what? We're not going to adhere to EU regulations. We're not going to get our budgets under control. We're going to pay for this massive welfare state. To hell with the European Union,' et cetera. That is basically causing a financial crisis. And you have to remember that Europe is already in an economic crisis. They have an immigration crisis. They've got a geopolitical mess on their border. If France succumbs to a financial crisis, that means that the European Union will basically fall apart. And the reason I say that is because Germany and the Bundesbank, that's the German national bank, backstops the European Union. If France flouts any program of austerity, the Germans will pull the plug and say, you know what? We're not going to backstop you. We're not going to allow our collateral to backstop your financial recklessness. A version of this happened about 10 years ago with the 'PIGS'. Some of you vaguely remember that. You had Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Spain. All these countries were completely fiscally irresponsible. There was a combination of a bailout on the one hand and some austerity that was imposed on Greece and some other countries. They barely kept it together. This time it's going to blow up the European Union. And the severity of this crisis is so great that it's going to spread to the United States as well. Basically, all these governments are bankrupt, and bond vigilantes. So these are folks that are going to take the other side of the trade against these governments. They're all dependent on financing. It's like having bad credit. You have one credit card after another after another. They're at their limit. And so that's going to create a Western financial crisis that's going to hit the United States as well. We're very, very close to that. Once that happens, then you're going to see a total turnover of government. But we're not there yet. We're in the early stages of that. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:26:54 ] Migration is helping to drive that for sure. One thing I was thinking about is the thing that happened in the 2015 migrant crisis in Germany where they had a thousand rapes on New Year's Eve in Cologne, Germany. Something like that would never happen even in Canada. Didn't Trudeau tweet something out a few months ago where he said, for right now, we're going to stop all immigration to let the economy catch up? I couldn't believe that he tweeted that. But the tide is changing. The window is shifting. As we talk about the Overton window is shifting so much that something like that is fine for him to tweet now. Every time someone mentions Macron, and I just sent you this on Telegram, Dave, every time someone mentions Macron, I can't stop thinking about these images. Do you guys remember this image? I do remember that. He's with these shirtless, these wet, sweaty shirtless blacks. These black migrants. It's so freaking weird, this guy. Look at this. This is a real picture. Reilly [ 01:28:05 ] He's giving the finger in the second picture. Yeah. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:28:09 ] These are real pictures. These are the leaders that are going down. But anyway. Yes, they are. Trudeau, did you see the video of someone walking up to him and calling him a faggot? Yes. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:28:23 ] This is clip number two, Dave. Oh, do you have that in here? I do. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:28:26 ] Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, play that. I'm glad you have that in there. Wait, calling him a faggot? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:28:31 ] No, I didn't. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:28:31 ] Oh, you don't have that? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:28:32 ] Oh, I have a video of him getting heckled by multiple Canadians. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:28:35 ] No, there's this guy that walks up to him and wants to take a selfie with him, but he's actually video recording. He says, look at this faggot, and then Trudeau runs away. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:28:42 ] How could I have anticipated and put that in the outline already? You thought I was really good at my job? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:28:49 ] Calls Trudeau a faggot on Twitter search. You'll find it immediately. But yeah, no, I mean, Cameron's absolutely, absolutely correct. Every time that Cameron, yes, this one. Play this real quick. Reilly [ 01:29:01 ] Okay, all right, all right. Yeah, yeah. Hold on, hold on. SPEAKER_7 [ 01:29:06 ] Look at this faggot. Look at this faggot. There he is. Look at this faggot. Can you say that again? I didn't even know you could say that again. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:29:17 ] Anyway, every prediction that Cameron's made that is coming, he's been on my show multiple times. Every prediction that he's made sounded crazy to me, but then every prediction that he's made turned out to be pretty much correct. Reilly [ 01:29:32 ] Okay, so Cam, what stocks am I buying at open tomorrow? Yeah, really. Please. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:29:37 ] Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that, Dave, because some of you, probably notice that the Fed came out so that there was a what was it, a press conference held by Jerome Powell. Reilly [ 01:29:51 ] The FOMC meeting today. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:29:53 ] FOMC meeting. Thanks, Dave. And basically, the markets took a bath because they haven't fixed inflation. And there's very real fears that interest rates are not just going to come down, which they won't. But, you know, look, that I've been to all these countries. OK, I've been to France. I've been to Germany, been all over Europe. I've met with a lot of these parties. That's in part why I know the things that I do. The situation in Europe is very bad. It's very, very, very bad. France in particular. And if you go to Paris, you basically think you've landed in North Africa or in Congo, depending on which part of Paris you go to. The situation, is ungovernable. OK, Germany's not as bad. France is very bad. I would say France and the UK are even worse. But these governments have engineered a situation that is basically going to blow them, blow them up. Right. They're completely out of money. They have no police, really, of any merit that are on the streets anymore. The armed forces are completely hollowed out there. At the same time, they're openly debating sending peacekeeping force, which is basically going to start a war with the Russians. The administrative state in these countries is falling apart. That's happening in Canada, too. Trudeau's finance minister just resigned. Why? Because the economy is collapsing. Right. So we're on the cusp here, guys, of something very big. I think it's going to be akin to the revolutions of 1848. You're going to see these governments fall like dominoes, except the end result is going to be, very different. These governments are cratering fast. One other thing to note on this. Look, Trump is in the same position. He doesn't have a plan. He doesn't. He faces the same fiscal insolvency that the rest of the Europeans do. And I think he's going to make it worse by imposing these tariffs. If he doesn't deliver on his promises, as I said a few episodes ago, people are going to turn on him. And I think it's going to happen in the next 90 to 180 days. And that will be the final disillusionment, in my view. I wrote a substack about this. I think I sent it to some of you guys. Once Trump goes down, then people will realize, hey, look, we've got to get rid of this whole two-party system. We've got to start fresh. That's what's coming. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:32:26 ] Do you really believe that these world leaders were motivated by benevolence? I know Angela Merkel in her biography, she said that in the early stages of the migrant crisis, that it reminded her of the Prague migration of the late 1980s. But I believe those were all Germans. They were white Germans. And that stuck with me because I realized that she has no racial consciousness. She's thinking that that is the same thing as this totally disparate racial group or group of races coming to Germany. And she's thinking, these situations are so very similar. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the idea that this is a man. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:33:23 ] I think it's a combination of three things, right? It is not solely incompetence. That's not the case. However, what I've tried to convey to folks, in part because of my experience with a lot of these governments, is the extent to which these governments have been misguided. And I think the extent to which you've seen a real brain drain at that executive leader of government, leadership of government, okay? And I mean, the party systems, I mean, the sort of constitutional frameworks of these governments, the international institutions like the EU, they just don't work, okay? In a very similar sense, the US Constitution in America, I don't think really functions properly anymore, okay? And there are various reasons for that that we can discuss at another time. But that's the number one thing driving everything is that the bureaucracies that run these countries, they're completely depleted of capacity. And the reason for that fundamentally is because these governments have been re-staffed over the last 50 years. If you weren't woke, if you weren't a globalist, you're out. Right. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:34:25 ] Right. Yeah. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:34:26 ] It wasn't about competency, okay, or merit. That has nothing to do with getting ahead in government at all. And it hasn't for a long time. That's the first thing. The second piece is the guilt, all right? Absolutely. You go to Europe, you're like, oh, I'm going to go to the United States. The Germans lost the war. They were blamed for the war. The Europeans collectively feel a tremendous anxiety about nationalism because of the Second World War. I was in Europe, this is probably in 2016, and I was talking to a Spaniard. And he said, 'You gotta understand, in Europe, we think about war the way Americans think about sex, all right? It's just that taboo topic that people in Europe just are very uneasy and uncomfortable with. And by extension, nationalism. That's the second reason. The third reason is the subversion that you guys talk about. It is the Zionist influence in these countries, especially through the European Union and its tentacles. And you have to remember, just as there are nonprofits in the United States, like Media Matters, like the ADL, like the Southern Poverty Law Center, they have all those same things in Europe. And they absolutely have untoward influence over elections. So you add those three things up, and you're right where we are. Today, the issue is, and this is exactly where we are in the United States, the extreme position is increasingly the only position left. Reilly [ 01:35:49 ] Yes, of course. But Cameron, Cameron, it's not extreme. Our positions aren't extreme. It's not extreme. Our positions are normal, like the natural law. We're returning to normal. What everybody did for 7,000, 6,000 years, however long, on this earth, where you know, men and women get together, have lots of kids, and it continues. Yeah, but what Cameron means is-Yeah. They're viewed as extreme. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:36:11 ] Yeah, yeah. Reilly [ 01:36:11 ] The Democrats of the-I just wanted to point out that, although the views are branded as extreme, it's the furthest thing from-Of course. We are the most normal people. Oh, yeah. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:36:20 ] The Democrats of the 60s were, like, would be considered, like, a lot of them would be considered, like, super far right. I showed you the video of Mayor Daley from back in the 60s saying, 'Shoot any looters or shoot any rioters on site,' giving the order. He was a Democrat. Reilly [ 01:36:36 ] Look at George, was it George Wallace? Right. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:36:39 ] I mean, so many. Yeah. So many, so many examples. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:36:42 ] But what I mean, yeah, what I mean specifically, you're right, Dave, 100%. Extreme is the language that they use. These are not extreme positions. It's a recentering based on national interest. But I guess what I mean is, if you go back to the 90s, some kind of a pathway to citizenship was probably viable. I would not have supported it, but it was viable. You know, you could sort of defend that position. Today, we have to deport. We have to masturbate. Yeah, we have to actually do it. We have no choice. There is no alternative, period. And there is no alternative across Europe either. There is no alternative to exiting the European Union, which all of the mainstream parties in France, Germany, Italy regard as extreme and therefore unacceptable. That unacceptable position is going to become the only position left. That's where we are. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:37:32 ] And in Europe they call it repatriation, right? They say – Remigration. Remigration. That's what the other banners say, remigration. I don't think it's going to happen here, unfortunately. Oh, you're backtracking now. I'm kind of, I mean, you see Trump kind of backtrack on a lot. Holman said that we're only going to target the severely, the very violent immigrants. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:37:57 ] No, no, it's not going to happen with Trump. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:38:00 ] No, no, but I'm just saying like, yeah, I don't think it's going to. Well, you know, and I saw Nick talk about this. I saw a clip of Nick talking about this the other day where he said that, in the short term, it would be, uh, there'd be a lot of pain if there was, if there were like mass deportations that can both economically and also, you know, you know, you have police going door to door and, you know, you've got the, you know, who knows how the media is going to, I mean, look at what, how the media was, look at how the media was reacting when Trump was president, when he was just simply trying to put any law in place to prevent you know, what was happening at the border, wait, Mexico policy, they were camped out at the, they were camped out on the fricking border. They had Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez going to the gate and crying and, and now the borders worse, their borders worse and the media is nowhere to be found because they don't want the people to know how bad it actually is. And so they're covering it up. And just like with the tariffs, I think in the, in the short term, it would be, it would be bad, but in the long-term, it would be good for the country. Like, I don't think it's going to happen. Go ahead, Cameron. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:39:06 ] Yeah. I was just going to say, look, um, on the immigration side. Okay. Uh, Trump is not going to implement that kind of reform. Rebecca's exactly right. You have to remember institutions can't reform themselves. Okay. They, they tend to break, they collapse and then they have to reorganize. That's what we're talking about. The same thing is happening in Europe. These governments cannot fix themselves. And the problems are so great. In magnitude that it's just going to destroy them. Okay. My point is that when they go down and that's what you're beginning to see here, you're seeing these leaders just collapse. Okay. Because their governments are so fragile and incompetent. That's when you're going to see the necessity for a total 180 degree shift. How would something like that in the United States happen? If you have a financial crisis in the United States, the immigration problem becomes an economic problem becomes a policing problem. Because all of a sudden you have millions of people who depend on the government for healthcare, for education, for transportation, for rent, for heat. All of a sudden, they don't have those things anymore, and they're disproportionately not white. Okay. So what, what's going to happen to the rule of law, which is already shaky in those areas? When you have a fiscal adjustment of that magnitude, people are going to be pissed off. And I quote, it's going to test social cohesion. And remember, as I've said before, we are going to have a fiscal adjustment of that magnitude. We are at war with Mexico. Okay. Whether we understand that or not, we are, we're at war with the drug cartels who control large sections of this country and control the border. So this is the reality of the situation. Congress has been able to sort of sidestep it because the financial system's held up because the economy's been strong. It's not anymore. So again, the extreme position is going to become the only thing that we can do. Right. We're very close to that. Very, very close to that. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:41:03 ] Radical problems require radical solutions. It's true. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:41:06 ] It's true. And I'm seeing average citizens be emboldened. Oh, we have a clip. Can we, can we pull up clip two and watch about a minute of it? Clip two. Clip two. Let's watch this and then we can talk about it. SPEAKER_4 [ 01:41:20 ] It's important that we understand and analyze this imminent resignation from Justin Trudeau because it's indicative of a zeitgeist, a spirit of the times that's propagating across the entire planet. Let's run clip number B, it says here, Kyle Becker reported, if you want to know why Justin Trudeau is on the verge of resigning as Canada's prime minister, this woman says it all in just 22 seconds. SPEAKER_5 [ 01:41:41 ] You've sold us out to globalism. You are not working for Canada. You are working for your globalist partners. I wonder how much they're paying you to betray Canada. What do we do with traitors in Canada? Mr. Trudeau, we used to hang them, hang them for treason. And you're doing that very same thing. You're doing that same thing to us now. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:42:03 ] Based. And we've got based. That's who she's getting arrested. Arrest people for speaking out against. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:42:11 ] Here's my here's my question. Why is she saying that, that Trudeau and his have been in power a long time? OK, why is she saying that now? I'll tell you why. It's because Canada is falling apart. Right. The economy is unwinding there. They have mass immigration problems across that country. There's only, what, 30 million Canadians. I forget the exact number. You can look it up, Dave, but it's a small country. All right. It's been just inundated with mass migration. That's why you're starting to see pushback. That's why you're you're seeing these governments fall like dominoes. OK, all of a sudden, the urgency has kicked into gear. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:42:52 ] I think that that was aptly put, that social cohesion is going to continue to be tested. And that's why we're seeing people speak out. The economic problems, of course, are going to be tested. They're going to be devastated, all of us. But before we move on, Cameron, I think that what we all wonder in these situations of potential economic despair is how we can shield ourselves from some of these effects. So what do you think the average citizen, people who are watching this show, can do to prepare for the imminent economic backlash that we're going to experience? Cameron MacGregor [ 01:43:24 ] Yeah, I think the first thing is get out of debt. Get out of debt to whatever degree you can. Right. Pay off your credit cards. If you can pay down your mortgage, what have you. Cut back in general. Don't spend as much as you normally do. A lot of people are moving back in with mom and dad. Mom and dad's moving in with with their with their kids. You're going to start to see a lot more of that as we go into this. So, number one, get out of debt. Number two is cut back. You know, adjust your standard of living down to prepare for this. The third thing is you definitely need to pay attention to how you bank. So, you need to look at the banks that you use. You need to pay attention to where your money is located, because when you get into these sort of depression cycles, all kinds of centralized systems become vulnerable. Banks become vulnerable. You know, financial institutions of all kinds become vulnerable. Credit unions. All right. Your money could get locked up. Now, I'm not trying to fear-monger here, but these are things that can happen very, very quickly in the in the European Union. They're already beginning. They're already beginning to happen. So, get ahead of the problem. And finally, I would say this. Have a plan. So if things do go haywire, where do you go? To whom do you correspond with? Right. Is there is there a safe location that you can go to? Can you get out of the cities if you have to? Right. If they become lawless. These are things that you need to start thinking through and you need to evangelize that message with friends and family. So, get out of debt. Cut back, you know, sort of shore up your standard of living, don't buy that extra car, don't don't get another credit card, et cetera, be very shrewd in terms of where your money is and for have a plan, have a plan, think things through both in terms of crime and safety, but also food, supply chains, all those kinds of things think just think them through. I don't think we're going into Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. Okay. I don't believe that that's how bad it's going to get, but have a plan and think it through. If you do that, that's half the battle. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:45:34 ] It's our economy is definitely propped up on pillars of sand right now. It's do I don't know if you remember this, but like, I think a couple of years ago, you were on my show and we were talking about China and the real estate developers going under. Did you have you guys ever heard of the China Chinese ghost cities? Yes. Yes. You guys heard of those? Yes, I have. They're pretty crazy. If you look up some of the pictures, like they have entire videos. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:45:57 ] They're people. They're people that urban explorers that have videos on YouTube. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:46:01 ] Yeah, they've gone into I wrote a whole article about this. They've gone. They have whole cities of just completely vacant apartment buildings, like perfectly good apartment buildings, perfectly good cities, building convention centers. It's pretty crazy to look at. And I mean, it's basically what we have, what we have here, but just not in. Not exactly like that, but in terms of our economy, right? I mean, it's it's a ghost. It's a ghost. It looks good from the outside, but on the inside, it's it's it's it's it's crumbling very quickly. Anyway, do we want to go to now? Reilly [ 01:46:43 ] I guess my question, you were you're you're asking people to get out of debt. But we're also saying that we're about to see like a massive financial collapse. Wouldn't that be a moment where you could actually like leverage that go into more debt and then? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:46:57 ] And then hope that your bank defaults wouldn't the debt is $10,000 out of the ATM at Chase. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:47:07 ] Yeah, no, this is a this is a good question, Dave. And I'm I'm frequently asked this. Why if the financial system didn't blow up anyway, why not just go to town and exploit that that process? The reason is it's not going to go out of business overnight. You're going to be in a transitional period. All right. What do we know, however? When you go? Depressed into a depression like environment, access to money becomes very, very difficult. All of a sudden, your credit score becomes incredibly important. This is what's happening today for millennials in terms of getting cars, homes; the credit rating that you have becomes incredibly important. It's going to be the opposite of what it was 10 years ago in which anybody could get access to credit at a low interest rate. That's going to vaporize. So in this transitional period, you definitely want your credit to be as good as as good as it can be. The other thing is this: You're going to need cash to get through. OK, I lived in Argentina for five months. Their economies collapsed. Guess what they use? They use pesos. They use cash. It's a cash-based system. And a lot of that's because the banks don't work. You know, again, access to credit is scarce. So pay down your debt. Have some extra cash on hand. Right. Typically speaking, when financial systems collapse. Cash becomes king, all right, especially so in the United States and what we've seen over the last, I would say, three to four years is the value of the dollar has actually gone up relative to other currencies right now. It's still losing value because of inflation, but it is gaining in strength, especially if you have liquid cash, because remember, during depressions, things actually fall in price, houses, cars, et cetera. So that's why you want to pay down your credit. That's why you want to have dollars at the same time. And this is sort of what you're hinting at, Dave. Yeah, we're going to have a new currency at some point. Maybe it'll be Bitcoin. Maybe it'll be something else. But you want to sort of trend in that direction as well, as it's just going to be a transitional period. I don't know how long it's going to last, but it's coming. It's coming. I think we're already in it. Reilly [ 01:49:16 ] Well, and there's something else that I wanted to touch on now that you mentioned that with currency. So a priest friend of mine, he was in Rhodesia during the civil war that happened. And we were talking and he talked about how the currency collapsed there and, you know, went to total shit. But what was really interesting is what he said they used for currency. And it was primarily like penicillin, cigarettes, lighters, little nips, the like alcohol nips, you know, things like that. Gold and silver people didn't use. They could just murder you and take it. Right. Bullets are useful. You could trade those. They're divisible. You can use them to get more things. Alcohol is good because it takes people's minds off of the war that they're in. Cigarettes, these little luxuries that you don't normally have in that kind of a situation. And so that's what he told me they kind of went towards. They didn't go towards gold and silver. And that was, you know, I thought kind of interesting. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:50:17 ] One thing about this, because a lot of people don't really understand how the gold silver markets work. But if you buy gold, OK, what you can do is you can. You can go to a precious metals dealer and you can exchange your gold for cash. That's ultimately what what people tend to do in these environments that get out of control. An example of this and this, again, is sort of encouraging in terms of how people sort of spontaneously reorganize in the 1960s and 1970s. Ireland had a banking crisis. Their banks just completely shut down. All right. The pubs became the credit system because the pubs had a lot of cash on hand. So the pubs are. They're actually scaled up and issued out cash loans to people because the banks were shut down. Right. So these are the kinds of things that could absolutely happen if the financial system begins to implode. And if you do have gold and silver, you can go to a precious metals dealer and exchange that for a hard currency, which you can then use to buy groceries or whatever. Reilly [ 01:51:17 ] And, of course, you can go to buy your gold and silver at Money Metals Exchange, one of the proud sponsors of The Backlash. That's MoneyMetals. com. Are they? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:51:26 ] Are they really a sponsor? We'll find out. Reilly [ 01:51:29 ] We'll find out if they send a check in the mail. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:51:32 ] This show is sponsored by. Reilly [ 01:51:37 ] No, absolutely not. I have been talking with Tucker Carlson's people. They're sending me Alp. They're sending me his new. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:51:43 ] We'll change to Alp. Where we can be bought before you start cutting back. Before you start cutting back on your finances. Super chat the show. Power chat that live slash the backlash every episode. Reilly [ 01:51:56 ] Cash is going to be fine. Everything's going to be fine. Just buy more micro strategy. Buy more Bitcoin and donate at the backlash dot net slash. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:52:05 ] Give us a few Bitcoin. Change our lives. Make us the biggest, most red pill podcast podcast ever. Anyway, do we want to go to super chats or will we? Reilly [ 01:52:14 ] OK, I was going to one last. Go ahead. One last thing. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:52:17 ] And I need to really use the bathroom. Oh, really? Go ahead. Go ahead. Why don't you go on stream? Let's go. I think people online stream into a bottle. Yeah. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:52:25 ] OK, absolutely not. How much do you think we could get some power chats from that? We don't. We can't get super chats. We can only get power chats. We still can talk drones if you want to. So I know we don't need it. We can. Reilly [ 01:52:36 ] Cameron mentioned it. Cameron mentioned it. But I did want to point out that there is a thesis that Bitcoin could be used as like an escape valve, a pressure release valve for inflation, where the inflation can go into Bitcoin and run it, run up the numbers while not actually affecting our buying power. Also, because of the death of the petrodollar. And the treaty with Saudi Arabia, the idea that the United States could adopt Bitcoin as a strategic reserve and then force other banks that decide to hold Bitcoin, that they need to also hold an equivalent amount of US Treasuries as a way of increasing demand for the dollar. I mean, you said it, that although the dollar is losing value, it's still the strongest fiat currency that's out there. And so what I see happening with Howard Lutnick being involved with commerce and with the Trump team. Yeah. I mean, I think that dollar hegemony is going to increase, potentially, destroying the smaller, weaker fiat currencies throughout the world, replacing them with things like Tether, with like a digital dollar, you know, and then after every other fiat currency has collapsed, then the US dollar. But I think that we've got some time left. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:53:48 ] You keep talking about Bitcoin. It's going to be Pepe. Pepe coin. It's going to be Pepe. No, I have this. I have this very. Very esoteric coin, this like shit coin. It's called Imagine AI. And I've had it for like, I just like forgot about it. I had like 4,000 of them or something. It went up like 179% or like 200%. It's like an AI coin. It's like an image. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:54:12 ] So now you have like 4 cents or something? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:54:14 ] Yeah. I have like $50. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:54:15 ] Down from 300. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:54:16 ] That's the extent of my cryptocurrency. I have like $50. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:54:19 ] I thought you, Vince, I thought you had Fortcoin. Weren't you a big investor? Is that a coin? Yeah. That is. Reilly [ 01:54:25 ] Where can I buy that? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:54:26 ] It's right next to Hawk Tua coin. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:54:28 ] Yeah. Is that what she called it? I feel like she could have done better. Reilly [ 01:54:32 ] Don't ever shit coin friends. No. If you're watching this, don't shit coin. You'll lose your money. You're going to get mad. Or you'll get the biggest gains ever. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:54:40 ] No. No shit coins, James. I'm looking at you. Reilly [ 01:54:44 ] All right. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:54:46 ] Now, I guess. On to the super chats. We can do power chats. Okay. Great. It's the funniest segment of the show. It's been the funniest segment of the show is the power chats. Power chats. Yeah. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:54:56 ] Okay. Reilly [ 01:54:57 ] I've got to find the end of it. Good talk, guys. 12/19. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:55:02 ] Good talk. Reilly [ 01:55:02 ] Today's the 19th, right? Yes. Okay. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:55:05 ] Piss jug for the win. Someone says in the chat. That's right. Reilly [ 01:55:08 ] No. Should I have it read it? I can have it read it. Hold on a second. I can do this. We should read them. We can read them. Why don't you just read them? I'll just read them. Bill Biz sent $25. Sounds like a win for Idaho with the State Board of Education rejecting D. E. policies. Hope it's contagious to other states. Yep. Yes. We just last year, the head of the whatever it is, the State Board of Education, Debbie Critchfield, who's a rhino, by the way. She's very corrupt. A rhino. Not good. But the popular sentiment is that D. E. A. is bad. Everyone knows that. And she put out a statement basically saying that she encourages all the schools in the state of Idaho to stop doing D. E. A. stuff. Good. So that's nice. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:55:51 ] But one thing that Cameron was saying about all of our leaders being these purple-headed freaks, these people that have been over-socialized, the problem is that those people are fed into those positions from academia, which only allows people like that to get in academia. It's really hard to get into college as a white person unless you pay for it completely out of pocket. It's hard to get accepted into a lot of colleges as a white person. My daughter knows a lot of people that are putting all these different things into their applications. They're saying that they're different races. They're saying that they're this and that because they can't get approved for scholarships. They can't get approved for admission in general because they're just straight white people. So the reason why we have that in positions of power is because it's the only thing that's accepted into academia and the only way to get into the elite, the only way to get into positions of power is through academia. So we need people to still go to college. Don't buy into this whole, oh, I'm not going to college. Go to college. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:57:04 ] But you make up something about your race. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:57:06 ] Right. Try to go to college at least. Reilly [ 01:57:10 ] Mermaid Marie sent $10 and said, 'love the show, guys.' Rebecca, you look gorgeous as always. Just found out I'm pregnant with my fifth child. Yay. Congratulations. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:57:21 ] That's so great. Good for you. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:57:23 ] I've got mine. Why is she glazing Rebecca? Why is what's going on here? Yeah. Usually it's the guys that do that. Right. Unless it's a guy that's pregnant. Named Marie. Reilly [ 01:57:31 ] Mermaid Marie. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:57:32 ] Mermaid Marie. Reilly [ 01:57:33 ] Yeah. Mm-mm. Addicted to drums sent $25 and said, like the show. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:57:38 ] Hey, I know him from my old podcast. Hey. Awesome. Hey. Big shout out. Thank you so much for coming over here. Reilly [ 01:57:43 ] Thank you. Big Mad Lad sent $5. Great show, guys. Blonde is looking great. Totally. What about me? Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:57:53 ] It's okay. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:57:54 ] What about this? The jawline. Anyone notice that? Anyone notice the headset indentation? Go ahead, Cam. Yeah. Doesn't that hurt? Cameron MacGregor [ 01:58:04 ] Vince looks like Peter Weller from RoboCop. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:58:07 ] I am RoboCop. They some say that. Yep. Cameron MacGregor [ 01:58:10 ] I'm telling you. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:58:11 ] I've heard that. I've heard Mr. Clean. I've heard it all. Reilly [ 01:58:15 ] Somebody named What I Don't Understand sent $5. Saying, every time I see a slightly right or wing group get political relevance, they always go big tent, accept everyone, get betrayed, and then disappear. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:58:28 ] They get infiltrated. Yeah. Co-opted. Reilly [ 01:58:30 ] John Mark and Kurt Doolittle. The Proud Boys. Oh, my gosh. Steve Bannon. Farage. How is Catholicism going to change that? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:58:36 ] Well, first of all, on the third position, or what was the Kurt Doolittle? What were they? Not the third position. They were. Oh, you're right. Reilly [ 01:58:44 ] What was that? I just remember the guy with the helmet. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:58:49 ] Remember when he pissed his pants? John Mark. Yeah. John Mark. Remember when? No, it was Doolittle who pissed his pants. Yes. Remember that? Yes. I do. Can you pull up that? Do you have that clip on Twitter? Just go on Twitter and just be like, Doolittle pissed his pants. What? Yeah. Yeah. Pull it up. It's hilarious. Yeah. It is. He got surrounded by blacks. There you go. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:59:08 ] Oh, man. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:59:09 ] He got surrounded by blacks and pissed his pants because he was surrounded by blacks. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:59:15 ] Were they threatening him or were they just Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:59:18 ] - They were just like, oh, what about, why are you a racist, bro? And he was like, well, there's differences in races. Blacks have bigger dicks. And then he pissed his pants immediately, subsequently after he complimented their penis size. Rebecca Hargraves [ 01:59:34 ] Oh, God. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:59:35 ] And that was the end of that. That was the end. I don't even remember what the name of his movement was called. It was like, I don't even know. Reilly [ 01:59:43 ] It was like some- Oh, it was a proper- Properitarianism, right? Yes. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 01:59:46 ] And so every time I would go live, and this was back in the D-Live days, right? Because they banned me from YouTube, but go to D-Live was like popping off at the time Nick was on D-Live. Every time I would get a super chat about properitarianism, you got to follow these guys, you got to have these guys on your show, and then this happens. And I'm like, I'm glad I never had them on my fucking show. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:00:09 ] This is what would happen if you peed in a bottle on this show. I wouldn't hit my pants. We would never. We would never be known for anything else. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:00:17 ] Sometimes it comes out, well, maybe I would, because sometimes it comes out in multiple streams. The guys know. When you wake up in the morning. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:00:25 ] Are you saying you have a weak stream? I don't want to know this guy. No, and every guy knows this. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:00:29 ] When you wake up in the morning, sometimes it comes out in multiple streams. You can't, you can never predict. Reilly [ 02:00:38 ] You ever write two names at once at the same time? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:00:41 ] I have not. Have you ever played? I have never played Crossing Streams. Cameron has, being in the Navy. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:00:49 ] Oh, yeah, of course. The stream. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:00:51 ] I won't. He's pleading the fifth again. Oh, terrible. I plead the fifth. Oh, no. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:00:56 ] Oh, wait, wait. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:00:57 ] Go ahead. Say it again, Cameron. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:01:00 ] It's a family show, right? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:01:02 ] It's a family show. Yes. Speaking of pleading the fifth, did you see that clip of Fuentes when he was getting interrogated by the cops? Yes. That was. Is there any way you can pull that off, Jamie? Send it to me. Send it to me on Telegram. Okay. I'll send it to you. Reilly [ 02:01:14 ] While we read the big super chat from Reinhardt. Yo! Hi. $50. Thank you very much. I am both glad Nick is okay and happy for any accelerating event. These people should be careful what they wish for. Provoking our most radical members is the opposite of what they want. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:01:29 ] Yes. Reilly [ 02:01:29 ] Bingo. As always. Absolutely correct. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:01:32 ] Reinhardt is spot on. Yes. They think that it's what they want, but I don't, you know, like the theme of this show and the last show has been, I don't think that they realize the potential outcomes of the chaos that they're sowing. It's just so destructive. Oh, yeah. And it, of course, is going to be levied against them. Reilly [ 02:01:50 ] Well, and that's again why I lean on the side that this wasn't just random, that this was, in fact, somehow controlled, that this kid was psychologically manipulated because killing Nick Fuentes would radicalize overnight at least, I mean, how many hundreds of thousands of kids? Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:02:08 ] Maybe millions. Maybe millions. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:02:10 ] The entire Chicago police force. Yeah, really. Maybe he'll red pill them. Reilly [ 02:02:15 ] But, I mean, it would cause, it would be significant. It would not be good. It would create a very bad situation and lots of chaos. And I think that's what they wanted. That's why I lean towards this idea of like a Palantir bro, you know, psy-opping some guy in a weird echo chamber. I don't know. What I don't understand is, again, send $5, the only thing Catholicism can do that really helps is set a baseline point of entry if the majority of the people attending have Wignap beliefs and use the church tithe to do good work and community building. Need a high-trust society first, though. I would disagree that you need a high-trust society first. The whole point of church is it is its own society. It is its own society. As a matter of fact, in canon law, the Catholic Church is described as a society. It is a perfect society, meaning it has its own governors coming from within it. It's self-regulating. It's self-governing. It has its own internal hierarchy, meaning it's a perfect society, not that it's perfect in everything that it does. So when you go to church, I mean, I don't particularly fear getting pickpocketed in a pew. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:03:26 ] Can you imagine? Reilly [ 02:03:27 ] I don't know many people that would at any church. So the whole point of going to church is you're already around people that are like-minded, that you should be able to have a conversation with. And that's what you don't have in these big cities. You are notwhen you are in a big city and you're geographically associated with other people, not by your choosing, that are of different races and different religious backgrounds and educational backgrounds, that's where the lack of social cohesion comes in. And that's why, when you look at churches, they are the most segregated place in the world on Sunday mornings. Almost every single church is over 95% of one particular ethnicity. So a lot of these issues —go out the window. I mean, frankly, I think that white nationalism is what happens when people lose Christianity, when they lose the faith, when they go away from the moral law as our ancestors practiced it for 2,000 years. I think that's where you start getting into problems, and then people start looking for solutions that is anything other than Jesus. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:04:24 ] I think—you don't think that women are kind of, like, mindful of their— Women are a problem. —purses when they go up—no, well, women are a problem for sure. But I think women are—they have to be probably mindful of where their perspective is. They have to be mindful of their purses as they go up to receive the host, though, right? I think in a lot of churches. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:04:38 ] I've never thought about it. I always use my purse. You've never thought about it? Reilly [ 02:04:40 ] Women bring their purses into church? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:04:42 ] I think a lot of them do. I do. Reilly [ 02:04:43 ] We leave our cell phones in our car. I shouldn't say that out loud. Well, the thing is, it's like— Okay, so— We leave our cell phones in the car unlocked. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, right. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:04:52 ] When you get a person that comes over from a third-world country and you talk to them, a lot of them say, well, I can't believe the gas stations just leave that—all that food and all that product right outside on display. You know, back in my country, they would fucking steal it. It's like, yeah, well, yeah, now we're starting to have to lock shit up. Yeah, the deodorant. Yeah, the deodorant, for instance, in black neighborhoods. What's with the de—why do they steal the deodorants? It's so weird. Reilly [ 02:05:16 ] Have you seen the videos where they go around with Tide and they start pouring Tide? Yes. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:05:19 ] Yeah. They're always complaining, too. They're always like, 'Why is the black hair care products the ones that are locked up?' It's because you're the ones who steal the hair care products. And it's the— It's like—that's why they're locked up. It's like, yeah, so like—and it used to be the case where you can fill up your car with gas without having to pay—and then pay afterwards. Pay afterwards. Right. Remember when I was growing up? Yeah, I remember that, yeah. And now you can't do that. Now you can't even have deodorant on the shelves without, like—or hair care products. You can't have Crisco. Reilly [ 02:05:53 ] The testing of social cohesion. Can you make drugs out of it or something that we don't know about? No. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:05:58 ] I think it's just that they—that's the thing that they—I don't know. My uncle says they don't wash their feet. I don't know. I don't know what it is with the deodorant. I don't know. Anyway, what were we saying? Oh, I sent you that clip. Oh! On Telegram, if you want to play that. It's just a really quick, like, 10-second clip. I think Anthony Cumia, he said—18 10340 10340 at 14:46. Reilly [ 02:06:27 ] No comment on that. No comment. No comment. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:06:32 ] 18 10340 10340 at 14:46. No comment. It's a very important thing, right? Yeah. Lawyer. Lawyer. Lawyer. Lawyer. No comment. I plead the fifth—Cameron says it all the time when I ask him about his gay sexcapades. In the Navy, he says, lawyer. Yeah. He says, no comment. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:06:45 ] Have you been to Bangkok? Lawyer. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:06:47 ] Lawyer. Have you seen Ladyboys? Lawyer. I'm trying to get him to laugh. It's really hard to get Cameron to laugh. He's the rock. Reilly [ 02:06:57 ] No, I think that that Nick Fuentes, the arrest video, everybody that watches this, it's not like, 20 minutes, go watch that video because when you see Nick and you see what's going on with him and the way that the police are talking with him, they're very nice and they almost make it so that it's like, oh, what do you mean you don't want to talk to me? I'm your friend. I'm here to help you. I just want your side of the story. That's how they do. You can't trust them. That's how they do it and that's how they get you to talk. Nick's stuck by his guns and you can see he was fighting it at every—because Nick likes to talk—but he was fighting it at every moment to shut up and say, give me your card, I'll call my lawyer, et cetera. Right. Yep. Anyway, sorry about that rant. Based Dollar with a big super chat. Thank you. Great show. I think Candace talking about the liberty is good. Even if she's grifting, she has opened the door for many to walk through. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:07:45 ] I agree. Reilly [ 02:07:46 ] Very true. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:07:46 ] I love Based Dollar. This guy, I have so many late night conversations. Thank you so much. Reilly [ 02:07:50 ] Well, if you like Based Dollar, you're going to love him even more because he sent another super chat. Whoa. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I heard you have a big what? Who said that? No. Wait. Go back. I was going to say, I had super chats. I hit the wrong one. Oh, it's okay. Based Dollar sent another $100 and said, 'Do you think the AFD can win power?' I think it's possible. As things get worse, the Germans will get more reactive. I'll let Cameron answer that. Oh, I think they can. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:08:15 ] Let me just give a shout-out to Based Dollar. This guy, I've known him for a long time. I have so many late-night conversations on Telegram. He stays up really late. I used to stay up really late. Sometimes I just fall asleep, but the dude is the best. I try to reach out to a lot of these people. Younger guys all the time and just have like side you know. A lot of people try to avoid them, right? A lot of people, a lot of like content creators or whatever they try to-they don't answer the emails, they don't answer the telegram messages. I answer them because you never know what these young people are going through and at base dollar, I've known for a long time one of the nicest, most generous, kindest-like dudes and um great guy, great uh, great yeah, I've known him known him for a while so big shout out to him. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:09:03 ] We appreciate it. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:09:04 ] Go ahead Cameron, what's the answer to that question uh yeah. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:09:08 ] So AFD is alternative für Deutschland for those who who do not know. Um, AFD is a very strong party, they're very well organized. Uh, they have been absolutely pilloried in the press in Germany for years. Okay, has anybody that is even moderately? right okay but they are surgeons and i think what is basically happening is that the christian democrats that was merkel's party um and there's two versions of them there's the christian democrats in bavaria which is in south in the south and then the christian democrats which tend to be in west germany they are conservatives but like the republican party they're being dragged to the right and unfortunately for them i suppose they have made the same mistakes the republicans have they virtue signal and then they get into power and they do nothing that is how afd is going to come to power again the extreme position um Or as Dave says, the normal, the right position is the only position that's going to be left shortly and AFD is going to occupy that. However, one other thing I should say on this is that they will not permit under normal circumstances these right-wing parties in Europe to be in power, and they're not going to be in power, and they're not going to be in power to come to power. I think in a similar sense, they assimilated Donald Trump; right, they were never going to permit somebody that was that was actually trumping to get in there, right, which is going to seal their right. It's going to make sure that they implement these self-destructive Policies until they self-destruct, that's when AFD's time to shine will be. That's when we'll get a new party in the United States, that's when the European Union will collapse. How far are we away from that? I think we're months away from that. I think it's that soon. I don't know. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:11:02 ] Agree with everything you just said based um, I had to go bad like it was starting to hurt. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:11:06 ] I had to walk away. I had to use the bathroom so bad. Reilly [ 02:11:13 ] Streamer and nobody would have known if you hadn't said anything. Ed Powell sent ten dollars. The anti-European NGOs Cam talks about are funded directly or indirectly by the U. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:11:25 ] s deep state we need to focus on defunding the deep state hey ed good to see you um i do have a question about this ed's a friend of mine um the deep state when i hear people talk about the deep state i'm like is this a meaningless the u . s deep state is this a meaningless term because uh we are inherently it's inherently an international deep state how could you even be a u . Cameron MacGregor [ 02:11:48 ] s deep state in the absence of israeli influence that's for cameron yeah i don't i just don't like the term because it you know it implies that there are these shadowy groups everybody knows who george soros is everybody knows bankers are financing a lot of these wars everybody knows about big pharma right the the source of of the the negative influence it's it's established we know who it is they've just completely corrupted the entire state right the the apparatus of government it's it's ruined and in addition to that it doesn't work very well so it's just those two things i like what you say about the state how you just call it the state it's the state it's the state man you know it's the state it's the state it's the state it's the state it's the state it's the state you know that's what it is yeah i actually um and i knew this was going to happen i gave a speech after j6 after that it was kind of ballsy Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:12:39 ] For me to do this, I was actually sort of like I was very concerned about doing this, but I gave a speech at ASU right after J6, uh it was like a couple of weeks after all after like the j6 and all the fallout and I talked about how under the Biden administration, like if you thought the Barack Obama administration was bad in terms of um their enemies, uh the Biden administration is going to be much worse because Biden and I said this before he was even inaugurated, I said Biden is completely clueless, like he has no idea what's going on, he's not running anything. My uncle, you know, the boomers they were like 'I hate Biden', I'm gonna I ought To I'm gonna punch that guy in the face, I fucking hate that guy, you know, because they just get pissed off watching Fox News all day long. Biden has no idea what's going on; it is all of these factions with different interests and different goals that are running this state that are doing these things, and so the state just becomes more uh, you know, more of a threat to us because they're able to just do whatever the fuck they want to do. Basically, that's what it goes down to. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:13:52 ] Here's the way to look at it, right? So let's just consider the FBI as an example: if if you subscribe to the deep state, your view is basically that there are some Bad apples that have outsized power at the FBI, but that's that's not accurate. The FBI is a broken institution, that's just not accurate. It just doesn't work anymore. On one hand, and on the other hand, it's been staffed by the the wrong people for decades, that's the issue. So it's not about some subterranean group that's pulling the strings. The structure of government is broken. And by the way, this is what they're dealing with in Europe. You go through election after election. Well I'm going to throw this party out and I'm going to put this party in at some point. People have to realize the whole government is broken. You have To reorganize, that's where we are, that's where we are. Reilly [ 02:14:42 ] What you don't understand. Sent five dollars. Successful business and leaders first come together and put in massive amounts of time, effort, and focus into a small endeavor, then they put it into practice and make needed adjustments. Start small and build out; set goals and have standards. Yep, true, absolutely. Anonymous sent five dollars. Did Cameron expect Israel to be as militarily successful as it was in the last war? Why are Israel so militarily successful if they lack the spiritual sense of God that gentiles do? Cameron MacGregor [ 02:15:19 ] Yeah, so I can, I can answer this question um if You look historically, they haven't been, they haven't been very effective, that's why they need us, yeah, that's why they need us. There's a mythology about the state of Israel, but that state is basically dependent economically, politically, militarily on the United States; without us, nothing functions. And just to be clear on this: if you go back to 1973, um, the Israelis almost lost that war, okay, and that was at a time when they had real asymmetric military power in the region; I'm not going to go into the details, but I would quibble with the premise of the question which is that Israel has this bespoke military that has exerted Reilly [ 02:16:07 ] It's dominance through time that's really not the case, yep I would agree with that, uh Mike Hawk 420 Blazing, hey buddy sent ten dollars. Here's a very intelligent and enlightened comment also, *bleeps* tongue my bleep, thank you Mike Hawk, thank you. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:16:27 ] He was a fan of the old show Maddie O sent five dollars. Reilly [ 02:16:30 ] The blonde-haired lady in red is looking hot as always. I'm glad Nick is okay; he's made too much noise lately talking about the cucking and de-radicalizing of the right next four years. We're going to need him and you for more than ever. Stop sipping Christmas, stop glazing! Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:16:46 ] No, no! Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:16:47 ] If anything, glaze me if anything for me. Everyone needs. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:16:52 ] To sip more, we need some kind of like special effect when these Simps yes ooze out this effusive oh you're so beautiful Rebecca oh my god no I need it it's ego gratifying I've got to work on some sound effects yeah Cameron remember when I taught you what the term simp meant? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:17:12 ] What does it mean? I mean, I know what it means but is it short for something? Cameron MacGregor [ 02:17:16 ] I didn't know what it meant yeah yeah is it an acronym? Reilly [ 02:17:19 ] No I don't think so I just know what it means I know what it means but um yeah you're just blonde I heard you have a big rack I guess I don't know it is an acronym what the fuck A, C K oh simpleton okay no no I i think that uh suckers idolizing mediocre. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:17:40 ] Pussy ah, oh really? Is that okay? That's that's funny, I don't think so. I, I think it comes from uh, I think simping means it's derived from sympathy and the concept is that if you're a simp, you're sympathetic, you're sympathizing with the woman and trying to curry favor based on that. Well now, I feel like adults trying to get to her milkers. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:18:02 ] I've embarrassed myself in front of Cameron by saying the p word, so let's move on. Reilly [ 02:18:08 ] Anonymous said uh, blonde I hear you have a big **** can you confirm how many ***** are in a big dick? Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:18:14 ] Big i think it was five *****, four is four *****, a big rack. Oh yeah, I it's a, I'm a huge **** that is that is. What's going on, wonderful. Reilly [ 02:18:28 ] Uh, is there a telegram from for the show? Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:18:30 ] Um, there's a telegram, there's not, but we should do that. We should. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:18:33 ] It gets a little suspicious sometimes if you start a Telegram group, but I'm I'm okay with it. I'm down with it. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:18:39 ] I'm in. I'm in a lot of suspect Telegram groups. It's fine. Yeah, that key is just to be uh the person that you are all the time even when you're talking to strangers online. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:18:49 ] I just mean, with people putting threats there. It is blonde. Reilly [ 02:18:54 ] I hear you have a big butt can you confirm now? It's not... it shows me but it's censored. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:19:00 ] Yeah, they censor certain words. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:19:01 ] My butt is the appropriate size for a 37-year-old white woman. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:19:06 ] That has had two children, The Simps want you to do a 360; I will do listen this is getting a little out of hand. Okay, we need to pass a little bit of love, I don't know, uh, the left and the right here; I don't know. Reilly [ 02:19:19 ] Our viewership is at 35. 88, so all right, never mind. Keep doing it down, Rebecca. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:19:24 ] We do have a dress code for her, yes, which I've been adhering to strictly, yes. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:19:30 ] Okay, good. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:19:31 ] Except before the show, I made fun of my hair being so big, probably because I asked him if he wanted; I was like, 'What is this? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:19:36 ] Married with children are you the chick from Married with Children, Peggy? Yeah, Peggy? Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:19:42 ] Yeah, it's a Nancy Gribble thing, that's what it is. Oh, I'm' Seeing in the live chat that it's difficult to use Power Chats, um I've heard this complaint from a few people. If you want to be a weekly subscriber, a monthly subscriber, or per-episode subscriber, you can also go to subscribestar. Hargraves [ 02:19:59 ] com slash The Backlash. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:20:01 ] Subscribe star dot com slash The Backlash. Subscribe star dot com is, uh, pretty easy to use, it's, it's a tight website. Uh, where else can you find us, The Backlash? Net slash donate, there's different ways to donate. Didn't we start a Patreon? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:20:13 ] I believe we're gonna get banned from Patreon. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:20:15 ] We are immediately getting a ban; we shouldn't even bother. Yeah, but so, but subscribe. Reilly [ 02:20:19 ] Star has been very good, the best way for people to get funds to us is the backlash. Net, slash donate because the percentage that they take out is much less, well, yeah. But the power chats are fun, we're doing the power chats, the power chats are fun, I'm saying for anybody that wants to do like some sort of monthly recurring subscription and make the most of it actually, uh, doing it through the website, help us grow the show, through you know, subscribe, Star or Patreon, or whatever that is. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:20:48 ] The best friends that was all the super chats that I had, thank you guys for supporting the show, thanks for helping to grow the show, um, we're not going to be able to do it without you guys, because you know, there's all these other shows that exist that grow to the size that they are, these massive shows, um, they're all propped up by the audience, the people that we hate, and well, I'm talking about like the Daily Wire, and you know, the reason why they get so big, like the whatever podcasters, I'm sure they have backers though, well, we, yeah, so we're never gonna be able to grow without how you love the audience, and you're like, oh no, it's propped up by the Jews, we're only gonna be able to be to grow with you guys, so there's my cock, yeah, we just got a couple more super chats, uh, Justine, Mike, Hawk 420 Blazing. Reilly [ 02:21:33 ] Send ten dollars. The Israeli military not being great, I thought thanks, probably said that, yeah, yeah, how do I probably said that word? Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:21:40 ] Well, I think it's good, I think we're amazing at manual labor and self-discipline. Reilly [ 02:21:45 ] Also, blonde, you look amazing tonight, and your co-hosts aren't massive blank holes, assholes, pussies. I don't know what it says; it ends with an 's', assholes, probably, maybe, I don't know, maybe the P-word, uh, what you don't understand. Send another five dollars; you can use prepaid. Come to get a free copy of the podcast and proxy accounts to send chats safely, that's also true. Maddie O sent five dollars, let's see, there it is. Uh, do you guys ever see a day when we could do colors? I already see this show is going to be huge; knew it would be. Simp-free, I just feel like we are living in the Twilight Zone. We're now talking about a certain drive that's no longer spicy. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:22:19 ] Hey Cameron's laughing, look at that! I couldn't, I can never get him to laugh with my jokes. And then Simp-Free is always he when I was in Texas with um, Ron Paul, Ron Paul, can we say that? Okay, yeah, we're traveling to go see Ron Paul. He was I was talking about Simp and I was showing him some TikTok memes and he was like dying, he was like laughing. I can't get him to laugh with my but the Simp thing, it just always Makes me laugh on the Ron Paul thing. I think I've told the story on my show. You walk into Ron Paul's office, and in the hallway, in the entrance, he's got this massive picture of the USS Liberty signed by all the survivors. Reilly [ 02:22:59 ] Yep, really based. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:23:00 ] Yeah, yeah, wow! Reilly [ 02:23:01 ] To address Maddie O's question, uh, I do see a day where we can do call-ins because, yeah, we could do right now. I could fire up a Twitter Space and port over directly to that, and we could bring people in the way that Alex Jones does on his show, uh, through Twitter, um, and I do foresee a day when we do that when we get sponsors. Vincent James (Foxx) [ 02:23:24 ] Well, we've got the technology to actually do like a number where people Can call in from a number from a cell phone, we could actually call it; it'll be like a number every time, it'll be a different number but yeah, we can, we can put that up on screen. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:23:36 ] We'll have big plans for the show, we can't do it without you guys though, so please if you have the ability um wait a little while to pay off your debt and take a loan and send it to us, go to the backlash. Cameron MacGregor [ 02:23:51 ] net just don't be a simp when you call yeah, don't be a fucking simp. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:23:56 ] There you go, more lazing, more simping. Uh, that was such a fun show for us, we'll see you next time. Thank you everybody so much for joining us, this is the backlash, you will see us um every Thursday at 7 p.m. m pacific standard time for the foreseeable future on my ex blonde unders blonde underscore tweets my youtube channel blonde in the belly of the beast check it out on rumble the daily veracity i'm vince james this is dave this is all our exes too all our ex accounts right all right $10 simp is short for simpering which means something that just are you flexing i'm flexing simp is short for simpering which means these people gotta start glazing me what does glazing mean glazing means like you're glazing you're glazing you're glazing him up you're mike hawk again f slur was the derogatory word in the last chat thank you for clarifying Reilly [ 02:24:47 ] Thanks, Mike! I'm gonna have to see if there's a censorship toggle button because that's you gotta untoggle; no, you can't switch the words that you censor. Rebecca Hargraves [ 02:24:54 ] More on-air meetings, okay? 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