Interview · July 28, 2025

Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America: The USS Liberty Cover-Up w/Phil Tourney

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In this explosive episode of The Backlash, Rebecca Hargraves and Dave Reilly are joined by Phil Tourney, a survivor of the USS Liberty attack. Tourney recounts the harrowing events of June 8, 1967, when Israeli forces launched a brutal assault on a U.S. Navy ship, killing 34 Americans and wounding over 170. He exposes the lies, cover-ups, and betrayal that followed—from the U.S. government’s response to the silencing of survivors. This is the story they don’t want you to hear.

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The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney.mp4 [0:02:36] Rebecca Hargraves Welcome to the backlash. I am your host, Rebecca Hargraves, joined as always by Mr. Dave Riley. [0:02:42] Dave Reilly How are you doing today? I'm doing well. Yeah. [0:02:44] Rebecca Hargraves Very well-rested. Oh, what? [0:02:46] Dave Reilly Yeah. [0:02:47] Rebecca Hargraves How has this been possible? [0:02:48] Dave Reilly It's been the weekend, touch, and grass. Oh. Beautiful place. [0:02:52] Rebecca Hargraves Not going to say where. [0:02:53] Dave Reilly Oh, OK. But I got to stay with a listener of the show. And they didn't murder you. No. And the best part is that I had met him three years ago. And I called him a fed to his face. What is wrong with you? And he hated me for three years. [0:03:08] Rebecca Hargraves But he came around on you. [0:03:09] Dave Reilly And that's what we're trying to do with the audience. [0:03:10] Rebecca Hargraves We're trying to force Dave down your throat. You guys are going to like Dave. We have a great show for you today. We have Mr. Phil Turnie. We will talk about him in one second. But first, you can find us on x at real backlash. Our website, the backlash.net. Support us on subscribestar.com slash the backlash patreon.com. [0:03:29] Dave Reilly Slash the backlash. You really need to update that branding? I know. [0:03:33] Rebecca Hargraves The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed It's OK. It's OK. We'll figure it out. Send your super chats that will be read live. Questions for Mr. Phil Turnie at the end of our show, the backlash.net slash super chat. [0:03:44] Dave Reilly Subtewes on YouTube, we are streaming finally [0:03:46] Rebecca Hargraves on our YouTube channel that is at. [0:03:47] Dave Reilly Allegedly. [0:03:48] Rebecca Hargraves Real backlash. Ha ha. Yes, it says live. But it doesn't. It doesn't. There we go. There we go. [0:03:55] Dave Reilly Yeah, our first three listeners right now. [0:03:58] Rebecca Hargraves Subtewes on rumble. Backlash podcast. Thank you so much for joining us today. We want to give a quick shout out to our sponsors, Atlas Bullion, Idaho, Tallow, Antelope Hill. We'll talk about them after the super chats. And thank you so much. [0:04:13] Dave Reilly So Phil Turnie is a US Navy veteran who [0:04:16] Rebecca Hargraves served aboard the USS Liberty who survived the June 8, 1967 attacks. That's 58 years ago on the ship by Israeli forces in international waters. An incident that killed 34 crew members [0:04:29] Dave Reilly wounded 171, the carnage. [0:04:33] Rebecca Hargraves Turning has since advocated for greater awareness at the event serving as three time president [0:04:38] Dave Reilly of the USS Liberty Veterans Association, the LDA. [0:04:41] Rebecca Hargraves He's the author of several books on the subject, including what I saw that day. Israel's June 8, 1967 Holocaust of US servicemen [0:04:48] Dave Reilly The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed aboard the USS Liberty and its aftermath. And erasing the liberty, the battle to keep [0:04:53] Rebecca Hargraves alive the memory of Israel's massacre. Hey, wait a minute, you forgot this one. [0:04:57] Dave Reilly Holocaust on the high seas. [0:05:00] Rebecca Hargraves I'm sorry, did I misread? [0:05:01] Dave Reilly Did I get the wrong title? This is a real book, though. He did publish this. Oh, OK, I just, I had it. And this book just happened to have a good book. [0:05:10] Rebecca Hargraves The battle to keep alive, the memory of Israel's massacre on the USS Liberty. [0:05:13] Dave Reilly Thank you so much for joining us today. [0:05:15] Rebecca Hargraves It's such a pleasure to have you on. [0:05:20] Dave Reilly Ah, no, why can't we hear him now? [0:05:23] Rebecca Hargraves Uh-oh, uh-oh. Sorry, guys. [0:05:28] Dave Reilly Yeah, let's see. Let's see. Why is that happening? We just had his audio. [0:05:35] Rebecca Hargraves We just had it. Let's see, he's putting his headphones on. [0:05:40] Dave Reilly We can't hear you. Nope. Can you hear us? Nothing changed on our end. [0:05:45] Rebecca Hargraves Nope, he can hear us. [0:05:50] Dave Reilly The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed Check to see in the, uh, in your, in the lower left hand corner, you should be able to choose a microphone. Just make sure that the right microphone is chosen. Nope. Not yet. [0:06:04] Rebecca Hargraves Should I tell my story about Vashon while you guys are figuring this out? [0:06:06] Dave Reilly Yeah, please. [0:06:07] Rebecca Hargraves OK, OK, so this week I'm on Vashon Island, [0:06:10] Dave Reilly the most liberal place in the entire country. [0:06:14] Rebecca Hargraves And somebody comes up to me and they're like, does anybody told you that you look like Rebecca Hargraves? Like everybody would know who Rebecca Hargraves is. Like if he just went up to some person and you're like, oh, you know, Rebecca Hargraves, they'd be like, yeah, [0:06:28] Dave Reilly I totally know who that is. It was the craziest stuff. [0:06:31] Rebecca Hargraves He was a fan. [0:06:33] Dave Reilly I was a little worried I was going to get shanked. But he turned out to be a super cool dude. [0:06:37] Rebecca Hargraves It was just the wildest thing. He watches the backlash. And when I'm on Vashon, [0:06:41] Dave Reilly I feel invisible. Like no one would ever recognize me there. But it happened. Can't believe it. What do we do about this? I don't know. Phil, do you want to leave and come back? Leave the room and come back. Maybe that because it was working when you first came in. So we see you shaking your head up and down. Let's do that. We'll be here. The link ain't changing. [0:07:08] Rebecca Hargraves Talking about ourselves. [0:07:09] Dave Reilly So we'll just talk about ourselves for a little bit. I know. Does that mean that I'm famous? I believe so. No. I believe so. No. Yeah. I do get recognized at pilgrims the other day too. Yeah. The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed [0:07:21] Rebecca Hargraves You're famous. [0:07:22] Dave Reilly No. [0:07:23] Rebecca Hargraves I get recognized. Jennifer Lawrence can't walk down the street without getting recognized. I get recognized once a month and it's like the highlight of my month. [0:07:28] Dave Reilly See, I'm like an efflist, Isleab. [0:07:30] Rebecca Hargraves Yeah. [0:07:31] Dave Reilly We're low. Even the people that know don't know who I am. And it's crazy too. In all the young groypers or whatever, like you would think that they would know who I am because of the whole thing. But there's so many new people that have come in since COVID, since, you know, since the whole yay 24 thing, people just have no clue about 2019. Let's see. Can we hear you? [0:07:59] Rebecca Hargraves No. I heard him for a split second. All right. One more time. [0:08:05] Dave Reilly We're having some technical difficulties over here. [0:08:09] Rebecca Hargraves Yeah. Well, I think it's got to be on your end, Mr. Tony. [0:08:14] Dave Reilly It is on your end because we're here in the notifications and stuff like that. [0:08:23] Rebecca Hargraves If this isn't work, we're probably going to have to restart the stream. [0:08:26] Dave Reilly Yeah, it'll be fine. It'll be okay. [0:08:30] Rebecca Hargraves But you kind of have like a generic guy look going on. The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed [0:08:33] Dave Reilly Have you ever met anybody? [0:08:34] Rebecca Hargraves This has happened to me a few times where I meet somebody and they're [0:08:38] Dave Reilly like visibly disappointed. So try logging out and logging back in again. And then when you get in, just immediately start talking. I can't tell if he's trying to talk to us. He can hear us. You can shake your head, right? If you hear us. Yeah. So he can hear us. Yeah. I feel better about this because the R-Vall and Nick Fuentes interview had like the worst technical problems. [0:09:06] Rebecca Hargraves And it just happens sometimes. [0:09:08] Dave Reilly I'm not too concerned about it. [0:09:09] Rebecca Hargraves I am worried that we're not going to be able to talk to him. [0:09:11] Dave Reilly I've got like a million questions. Yeah, I know. I don't know how to understand it. It was working great when we were in the, as soon as I hit live. Most sod just does not want us to talk to Mr. Turning. [0:09:23] Rebecca Hargraves There's it. [0:09:24] Dave Reilly Oh. [0:09:25] Rebecca Hargraves Had this happened before. Yeah. [0:09:28] Cameron M We got it. [0:09:29] Rebecca Hargraves Welcome to the show. Let's jump right in. Oh my. What a great start. We got it. Thank you. It's okay. I got a story in about myself, which is how I like. [0:09:42] Dave Reilly I like to start every interview with a decorated veteran. The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed [0:09:47] Rebecca Hargraves So that's just how we are over the backlash. Self-important. Self-important, Mr. Turning. Thank you so much for joining us. Let's jump right into the June 7th event. [0:10:00] Dave Reilly So before the attack, did you or any crew members notice any unusual reconnaissance activity by Israeli forces? We did, Rebecca. [0:10:15] Rebecca Hargraves We actually, what we did, we left Africa at full speed. That was our normal steaming area on the west coast of Africa. They said, get out of the way right now. We were only there about a few hours and they said, get out of the way you got to leave. [0:10:34] Cameron M And you got to leave now. [0:10:35] Rebecca Hargraves If you have to leave anybody, leave them. We get out there. So we got everybody back on board. [0:10:41] Dave Reilly We had full steam to road to Spain, picked up three marine linguists. [0:10:48] Rebecca Hargraves And one civilian linguist. He was a former Navy Sea NSA guy, CIA tape guy. He was a civilian aboard our ship. We understood we were going into a war zone when we left road to Spain. [0:11:08] Dave Reilly At full speed, just fast as we could go. [0:11:11] Rebecca Hargraves And we got in the area off El Orish and the Sinai around that night, say probably two or three o'clock in the morning. Immediately on the 7th, Israeli aircraft were circling our ship, surveilling our ship over and over again. Our ship was clearly marked with American flag. USS Liberty on a stern GTR 5 on its hull on both sides forward. And there was no mistaken identity. They identified this as American and friendly on the 7th. Nothing happened that day, but Brecon. We felt very good that everything was going to go right. But by the way, we, the captain requested destroyer escort is we're in a war zone. We are always in international waters, but we're in a war zone. So we didn't know what was going to happen. On the 8th, they did it again. They circled our ship, circled our ship, circled our ship, taken pictures. We waved with the pilots, they waved it out. They all had to star David on them. And so they knew who were going many, many, many hours before we even got there. It was part of the government's plan we can get in that later. But please go ahead and ask any questions you'd like, please. [0:12:43] Dave Reilly So walk us through the moment that you first realized that the ship was under attack. [0:12:48] Rebecca Hargraves The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed I mean, I'm sure it was so shocking. [0:12:50] Dave Reilly What did you see? What did you hear? [0:12:52] Rebecca Hargraves What was the reaction from the crew? Oh, boy. Well, I was up on the starboard gun mount. We just got through with general quarters. And I was assistant on seeing leader in the forward repair party. I got a friend of mine, David Skollack. [0:13:10] Dave Reilly He was a, I see him. And he took care of the internal communications of the ship. [0:13:19] Rebecca Hargraves The sound part, phones were working. He came up. The gun mount was, had a, a gun was made up there. David Thompson, Alexander Thompson. And the captain was out on the bridge. I saw him and said, boys, have better get out of here. Because he was in no sense type of guy. You don't linger around. You're either working or you're in your workspace or doing something. But you're not standing around. [0:13:47] Dave Reilly So I left about, it took me 15 to 30 seconds to get to my workstation. [0:13:53] Rebecca Hargraves The attack started. Old hell broke loose. It was unbelievable. Now, I don't want you to have to talk to talk too much about, about the carnage that you saw. I've heard your accounts on watching your friends die. But I think it's important for people to recognize what, what a horrific event this was. And the horrible things that you saw and the, just the massacre. [0:14:22] Dave Reilly 171 people just terribly injured and the people that were immediately killed. And they were your, they were your brothers. [0:14:29] Rebecca Hargraves Can you talk a little bit about that if you're comfortable? Sure. Absolutely. I'm comfortable with it. I've been doing this a long time. I know the story pretty well. I go, it never leaves me. [0:14:43] Dave Reilly It goes over and over in my head. And there's a reason for that. Yeah, I saw my brothers get murdered in cold blood by the Zionist state of Israel. [0:15:00] Rebecca Hargraves They used unmarked jet aircraft, missteer and mirage jets. Not just two jets, but 30 sorties of jets firing at us and firing at us and firing at us. This went on for about 25 minutes. We thought it was over. It wasn't. They dropped napalm on our ship during the air attack and everything else they could throw at The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed us. Terry held the party. They got a message out, rock star, rock star under attack by unknown, unknown jet aircraft. [0:15:33] Dave Reilly And we didn't know who was attacking us either. [0:15:37] Rebecca Hargraves So rescue aircraft was coming from the USS Saratoga to come help us. And Mached America on the line says, return those jets back to base. Do not help liberty. [0:15:52] Dave Reilly Do not help liberty. [0:15:54] Cameron M Return to base. [0:15:55] Dave Reilly And they did. [0:15:58] Rebecca Hargraves Moments after that. Yeah, there's there's most shape right there. [0:16:04] Dave Reilly Good guy. [0:16:06] Rebecca Hargraves Return to base. And then we had the captain. He said about the torpedo, the torpedo boats coming up on us and we saw them. And we didn't know exactly what was going on, but they had to start David on them. So we thought they were coming to help us, but no, they were coming there to murder us all. They were going to murder us all. That's what they wanted. The attack lies in for another hour and a half. And no help ever came to us. They left us out there alone. Our own government set us up. He slaughtered by the Zionist state of Israel. Sink us and get us into World War III. That was the whole plan. [0:16:48] Dave Reilly But what they didn't figure on is an old World War II victory whole ship that took the mighty force of the idea of everything they could throw at us. And they couldn't sink that old World War II ship. They couldn't sink it if we had got on our side. [0:17:03] Rebecca Hargraves You know, he's been on our side every minute. [0:17:05] Dave Reilly And that's why I do these things. The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed [0:17:07] Rebecca Hargraves My brothers didn't die in vain. They were murdered and everybody needs to know it. They don't have a voice, but I do. [0:17:17] Dave Reilly And I'm going to speak as long as I'm alive. [0:17:19] Rebecca Hargraves I'm pushing 79 now. And I'm going to keep on speaking. Good for you as you should. [0:17:24] Dave Reilly We need these conversations for posterity. People need to know that they cannot trust the United States government. [0:17:30] Rebecca Hargraves And they definitely can't trust Israel's government. I've heard people push back on you like you don't know that this wasn't friendly fire. Let's talk a little bit now about how you know that this attack was deliberate, particularly as it pertains to LBJ. Absolutely. Well, LBJ. [0:17:52] Dave Reilly He had people going into his white house. [0:18:00] Rebecca Hargraves And they were all Jewish diplomats or people that had influence over him. No Arab diplomats were allowed to talk to him, just the Israelis. [0:18:19] Dave Reilly So it came to be. [0:18:26] Rebecca Hargraves He approved the attack. [0:18:29] Dave Reilly We were probably set up a year in advance and didn't know it. [0:18:32] Rebecca Hargraves We were dead men walking a year before that didn't even know it. But the plan got soured up by us not sinking to tell the truth. And I'm sure the idea after still thinking about that, the war crimes they committed on us. We shot our only three life rafts out of the water. All we're going to do is put our most seriously wounded in there. So they have a chance at life. They wouldn't allow that. They shot the damn light boats out of the water. They shot two out of the water and took one aboard the boat as a trophy of the kill. Good lord. [0:19:12] Dave Reilly The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed Can you share some details about the orders given to US aircraft carriers nearby? [0:19:18] Rebecca Hargraves And why or how help was delayed or recalled? Yeah, well, again, this message went out all over the world. Now you got to remember all of our antennas were taken out except one. [0:19:32] Dave Reilly Because they were all hit by heat-seeking missiles because they were all tuning. [0:19:37] Rebecca Hargraves All the antennas were tuning. And they hit them all except one that Terry how the Bordea took off because it wasn't tuning. He took it off line. They didn't hit it. Terragiously, he ran up a long wire to the antenna and the message went out. It was heard as far as way as Vietnam. Rockstar rockstar under attack under attack by a known Jared aircraft. LBGA gets on the phone and this this was heard everywhere. Do not help to liberty. Do not help liberty return to base. I will not embarrass my ally Israel. [0:20:20] Dave Reilly How did he know was attacking is that we didn't. So that's how I know we were set up. [0:20:26] Rebecca Hargraves Absolutely. [0:20:28] Dave Reilly So you said that it was an old World War II vessel. So what was the condition of the ship? I mean, how were you guys able to keep it afloat? Well, the ship, good, good question Rebecca. [0:20:38] Rebecca Hargraves The ship was refurbished in Bramerton, Washington. And it was commissioned in 1964 as a. It was a brand. They made it a brand new ship. [0:20:52] Dave Reilly All communications, a spy ship. [0:20:54] Rebecca Hargraves It had everything. The ship was brand new and every, every respect. But it was still an over a World War II cargo ship. And they called them one wayers. [0:21:06] Dave Reilly You probably see them getting torpedoed and victory is seeing things like that. [0:21:10] Rebecca Hargraves One torpedo and they sunk like a rock. Not our ship, but it was. [0:21:16] Dave Reilly We had no defense, our 450 caliber machines were taken out on the first pass. The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed [0:21:21] Rebecca Hargraves Every antenna was taken out except one we got the word out. [0:21:26] Dave Reilly And you know, this attack lasted two hours and they sent troop carrying helicopters over to finish this off. [0:21:34] Rebecca Hargraves It's just so unbelievable. [0:21:39] Dave Reilly And what about the wounded and the survivors? I heard your account that they basically told you that if you spoke about this, that you would be killed and, you know, and veiled, veiled tones. But some of you did and it took you 18 years, but you did too. [0:21:57] Rebecca Hargraves It was an incredible act of bravery. [0:21:59] Dave Reilly So can you talk a little bit about the aftermath and the US government's response, [0:22:04] Rebecca Hargraves how that affected the survivors. [0:22:06] Dave Reilly And we can get into the US Navy inquiry a little bit. I'm under the impression that it only lasted seven days, an inquiry of this magnitude should last at least a year. [0:22:17] Rebecca Hargraves Absolutely. Yeah, we were ordered by our government to shut up. Admiral Isaac kidneys, underling Captain Ward Boston, [0:22:28] Dave Reilly which changed the story. [0:22:30] Rebecca Hargraves Said we both knew it was a deliberate attack, but we were ordered not to say anything about it. So they didn't, but Boston finally did before he died. He says at the Boston Declaration, it's on our website. And so it all came out, but everything we say or do doesn't make any difference because the government has bought and paid for by the Zionist state. Oh, two thirds of the Congress are bought and paid for by APAC, ADL, all of them are other influencers. And it's not America first, it's Israel first. [0:23:10] Dave Reilly And that was shown in 1967. The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed [0:23:13] Rebecca Hargraves Now, if our ship goes down like they planned on it, World War III was going to begin. And millions of lives were probably spared because our ship didn't sink. [0:23:26] Dave Reilly Oh, by the grace of God, but being denied by our own government for so many years, [0:23:31] Rebecca Hargraves yeah, I didn't speak about it. [0:23:33] Dave Reilly I met my second wife after 18 years and I read an article in a paper [0:23:37] Rebecca Hargraves called Rocky Mountain News, Stan White put out. He's a master chief, E9 spy, good friend of mine. He's passed on now, but he wrote an article. I read it and I haven't shut up since. [0:23:51] Dave Reilly That's been 42 years ago. [0:23:54] Rebecca Hargraves I've been doing this. Well, never shut up. Never shut up. [0:23:58] Dave Reilly No, it's big. I've got kind of a weird question, not necessarily about the attack itself, but I was talking with some friends recently. And they were mentioning that, you know, we see these all the time, right? You see these like war plaques for like the Vietnam War for 9-11, whatever. You know, in like your local park, right? They have the little veterans area, you know. I've heard that there's a way to get a USS Liberty Memorial, as long as I guess what is it local legislators. I don't know if they have to pass a resolution or if you get people to pay for it. Can you explain that? Like, let's say that there's a town out there that knows about the Liberty that doesn't want to forget it, that wants to be able to have like a memorial or something like that. Is that something like the USS Liberty Veterans Association can help with? And like, can you talk about the mechanics of that? [0:25:02] Rebecca Hargraves Absolutely. A good question to you, David. [0:25:05] Dave Reilly We do have a USS Liberty Memorial. [0:25:08] Rebecca Hargraves I'll tell you this story behind that. It started right here in this little town, a city-rich Colorado. Kathy Maskell is a monument maker. And I saw she's making monuments. The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed [0:25:20] Dave Reilly This is the beginning of her when she started doing this. [0:25:23] Rebecca Hargraves About Vietnam, World War I, World War II, and on and on. I said, what do you think about doing a USS Liberty Memorial? [0:25:35] Dave Reilly But I must warn you, you might get in trouble for it. [0:25:39] Rebecca Hargraves There it is. There it is. And yeah, the Navy didn't want it. That's Kathy there, and another friend. [0:25:50] Dave Reilly And they didn't want it. The Navy didn't want it. [0:25:56] Rebecca Hargraves The Cold War Museum didn't want it. [0:25:59] Dave Reilly Nobody had national security agencies didn't want it. Nobody wanted it. [0:26:03] Rebecca Hargraves So we finally found a spot at post-40809 in Tidewater, Virginia [0:26:10] Dave Reilly that decided to take it. [0:26:12] Rebecca Hargraves And that's where it's at right now. [0:26:16] Dave Reilly It belongs in D.C. [0:26:18] Rebecca Hargraves It's where it really belongs. And I'm hoping someday that might happen. There's things in motion right now that just might make that happen. But it's all from private donors, people that want to help us [0:26:34] Dave Reilly and protect our one person. And he's got a foundation. [0:26:41] Rebecca Hargraves He wants to put Kathy's monuments all over the country in Washington, D.C. The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed [0:26:49] Dave Reilly He wants two on the west coast and two on the east coast. [0:26:55] Rebecca Hargraves And with all her monuments in the USS Liberty Monument, that monument you saw there, I prefer it. [0:27:01] Dave Reilly Go to Washington, D.C. [0:27:04] Rebecca Hargraves We'll buy the land or they will. Money is not an object. See how beautiful it is. It's sick over six feet tall. It costs over $150,000 in the. The marble was donated by Rocky Mountain Stone Query. It gave us some marble for all over all of her monuments. So a lot of heart and soul. I worked on it with her for eight months so it was completed. And then we had to find a home for it. But to be turned down again by our government, just a simple, simple, beautiful monument in honor of the 34 men that didn't have a chance at life. [0:27:50] Dave Reilly These are young men. And these are 19, 20, 21 year old kids. [0:27:54] Rebecca Hargraves I was only 20 at the time. And never gone. I mean, never gone. I'm a blank of nine. 34 of them, brutally slaughtered, blown the bits, a ship ruined over 821 Rocky Cannon holes in it. Napalm burning is up. 5,000 armor piercing bullets or more in it. A 40 foot by 40 foot hole in it. Everything they could do to destroy that ship they tried [0:28:24] Dave Reilly and they couldn't do it. We, we get Israel's ass. [0:28:28] Rebecca Hargraves We get the mighty IDF's ass. It didn't fire a shot. They say one shot was fired off the strawberry gun mount by Larkin. And whether it was cooked off or went off, it didn't make any difference. We still kicked their ass and they, they're still scratching their heads over there. You guys must have been so crestfallen when the realization hits you about the betrayal from our own government. Especially as, as servicemen, that just must have been such a shock and a, and world shattering. So what advice would you give to current US servicemen about loyalty about questioning orders [0:29:08] Dave Reilly and how they should proceed if they're already in the US military? [0:29:13] Rebecca Hargraves You know, that, that's another good question, Rebecca. [0:29:18] Dave Reilly The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed To question authority becomes, [0:29:22] Rebecca Hargraves it's a double edged sword. You can get you a lot of trouble, or it can possibly help. But we question authority about why you love Israel, get by with this. Why do you love me kill our ship, my son? How come so many war crimes put on us? [0:29:40] Dave Reilly And you won't do anything about it. [0:29:42] Rebecca Hargraves You, you threat this with fines of death. [0:29:44] Dave Reilly If he spoke to anybody about it, especially the news media. [0:29:49] Rebecca Hargraves You know, so that's what you expect. The government had, listen, Israel got more money for murdering Americans on the high seas and never gotten their entire life. [0:30:00] Dave Reilly Since 1948, [0:30:02] Rebecca Hargraves and they're even getting more now for murdering Americans on the high seas and attending on what they're doing in Gaza, [0:30:08] Dave Reilly which I think is one of the most [0:30:11] Rebecca Hargraves sexting, devastating things I've ever seen in my life. [0:30:14] Dave Reilly The US has to be, should be a reminder, [0:30:17] Rebecca Hargraves if they can murder Americans on the high seas, [0:30:20] Dave Reilly but they can get by with anything. [0:30:22] Rebecca Hargraves And they're doing it right now with the help The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed [0:30:24] Dave Reilly of our US government paying for it. [0:30:26] Rebecca Hargraves And they paid for us to try to sink us. Yep. All those planes and everything were bought [0:30:31] Dave Reilly by the US government to sink us. [0:30:35] Rebecca Hargraves And they're still getting by with my advice to service members. Don't don't go die and fight for Israel, whatever you do. [0:30:45] Dave Reilly Amen. [0:30:46] Rebecca Hargraves That is the best possible advice. Yes, because I don't think that I think a lot of young men especially are looking for adventure [0:30:54] Dave Reilly or they don't know what to do with their lives [0:30:56] Rebecca Hargraves and they don't really understand the international picture and what their lives are worth to the American government, [0:31:02] Dave Reilly which is nothing. Absolutely. [0:31:04] Rebecca Hargraves They don't care about you at all. Yeah. You are a body for Israel. Yeah. And that they should know what they're fighting for. So you mentioned the media. [0:31:13] Dave Reilly How have you and other survivors been treated by the media? We know how you've been treated by the government. But has any media come to back you? [0:31:24] Rebecca Hargraves Social media. That is a blessing. Like you guys in your wonderful show, it's great. We have a lot of different people. Of course, Candace Owens and Jake Shields, Clayton Morris, Ian Carroll. Owens from... What is it? Info Wars. [0:31:55] Dave Reilly The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed I mean, there's so many of them. [0:31:57] Rebecca Hargraves Yeah, I can't remember a wall. [0:31:59] Dave Reilly There was also not to interrupt you, but there was also... Where do I have it? I literally just had it up. Where did it go? Here it is. For those that haven't taken the full deep dive. I mean, like for sure the interviews with the in Carroll, you know, they're great. And you did a stand down at the old state saloon [0:32:18] Cameron M where you kind of went over everything, [0:32:20] Dave Reilly which was another wonderful thing and big thanks, big hat tip to Mike Fitzpatrick for having you on. [0:32:26] Cameron M But there was a documentary that was released about five years ago, maybe, [0:32:31] Dave Reilly called Sacrificing Liberty. It's a four episode docuseries made by a couple of friends of mine [0:32:41] Cameron M back when they were at True News or whatever. And I remember watching that. [0:32:47] Dave Reilly And that has absolutely everything in it. It's like four hours long, every detail. They went through with like 3D models and reconstructed the attack, the whole nine yards. So for anybody that wants like the fullest deep dive possible, [0:33:02] Cameron M I can't recommend that documentary enough. Anyway, sorry. It didn't mean to interrupt. [0:33:07] Dave Reilly No, no. [0:33:08] Rebecca Hargraves Listen, Kudos for the documentary. I'll tell you that. It's the finest one that's ever done. We've had several, but loss of liberty. I was a co-producer on it. [0:33:20] Dave Reilly It's a good one too. [0:33:21] Rebecca Hargraves The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed And I was a year ahead. One, you know, the day is will attack the American. And several others, BBC had a couple. But Sacrificing Liberty goes into the deep dive. [0:33:33] Dave Reilly As you said, Davis, it's four hours long. [0:33:37] Rebecca Hargraves It's very intense. Very heartbreaking. But you know, a lot of those guys that were in that dive, were in that documentary or dead now. You know, they're dead. We've had 045, dying the last month and a half or so. [0:33:55] Dave Reilly So it's becoming, we're all thinning out. [0:34:01] Rebecca Hargraves But you know, until my dying breath and the rest of the crew, I got to say, but say this about the crew. [0:34:07] Dave Reilly They're the most gallant bunch of people, wonderful, wonderful heroes. They deserve all the kiddos they can get. And they've been treated like garbage. [0:34:17] Rebecca Hargraves They've been spitting the face by our own government. And it is will hate this with a passion. [0:34:22] Dave Reilly They certainly hate me. [0:34:24] Rebecca Hargraves I'm on the internet as a. [0:34:28] Cameron M Not see you hate or drunk. Everything you can call me. [0:34:34] Rebecca Hargraves I'm sure they'll figure out more words. But if you're not being called those things, [0:34:39] Dave Reilly are you even doing anything important? They don't like me. [0:34:45] Rebecca Hargraves What interactions have you had with? Is really official since the attack, if any? Nothing but lies. There was a book written, The Liberty Instance by AJ Crystal. He's passed on. He was a former bankruptcy judge. The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed [0:35:02] Dave Reilly I tried to confront him in this estate department. [0:35:07] Rebecca Hargraves He was on a panel along with a good friend of mine, author of Depuzzle Palace. And they dared. Oh, the other one. I can't remember it right now. Body of secrets. The James Bamford. And that's where they read the. The report from board Boston. But they were supposed to let me speak. [0:35:31] Dave Reilly There was only two of us there. [0:35:33] Rebecca Hargraves I got up to speak. Mike Susser, the moderator of the state department there. Cut me off. I would love to speak when we were promised I would be. So that's how we get treated by Israel. There are four Israeli apologies on there. [0:35:47] Dave Reilly Michael Lauren, AJ Crystal and one or two more. [0:35:51] Rebecca Hargraves I can't remember their names. I do care. Well, Susser was one of them. The moderator. [0:35:56] Dave Reilly He was completely on their side. [0:35:57] Rebecca Hargraves So I had so many people against me. It was unreal. [0:36:00] Dave Reilly But as expected, I mean, you guys have faced so much backlash for speaking out against it. It is such a brave thing that you're doing. So in your book, erasing the Liberty, you discuss key revelations. If you could give the most important things that people generally don't know about this attack that you think that they need to know. [0:36:22] Rebecca Hargraves Because I like to trust our audience. They like our long form content. But every once in a while, I want to be like, you need to know these things about this event. And I know you talked about that in your book. [0:36:33] Dave Reilly So what do you think? What are the most important things about the destruction of the USS Liberty that the general public is not aware of? [0:36:42] Rebecca Hargraves The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed I think that the really deep dive into that Rebecca, the most important things, [0:36:51] Dave Reilly is what governments can do to the Americans. [0:37:03] Rebecca Hargraves I don't care if they're in the service or out, when they attacked our ship, [0:37:07] Dave Reilly they didn't just attack our ship, they attacked everybody, everybody in America. [0:37:12] Rebecca Hargraves A flagged American ship being attacked by a foreign government. An aircraft recalled by our own government, which has never happened in history. Never happened in history of ship being an attack. And rescue aircraft for help was recalled. [0:37:31] Dave Reilly Letters sink is basically what it was. [0:37:33] Rebecca Hargraves Hope it does sink. And leaving us out there for 17 hours with no help and help is only 40 minutes away. I mean, how do you explain that? [0:37:46] Dave Reilly They wanted us all dead, but we didn't go that route by the grace of God again. [0:37:51] Rebecca Hargraves They got old glory goes to God. No doubt about that. I'll always believe that as long as I live. That's why I'm still here. That's why I'm talking. I think he gave me a strong backbone or strong voice to keep on doing what I'm doing. But the crux of it is don't believe everything your government says. That's the whole deal. [0:38:16] Dave Reilly How has your faith helped you deal with the trauma of the attack and everything you've been up against [0:38:23] Rebecca Hargraves with the federal government, with the media? How have you used your faith to deal with that? I use it as actually it's not even a crush or anything like that. It's just an upbeat feeling that, you know, hey, I'm here out here doing what I can and I'm doing the Lord's work because he doesn't like. He doesn't like what's going on the world. I'm sure. And the day of reckoning will come. But I believe. My faith and believe me, I don't I don't go to church. I did my own praying because all the churches around here, they teach you that Zionist Christians are the only way to go. And I'm not going that route. I'm not going to go to church and have some preacher tell me I got to get on my knees to the Zionist state of Israel. I'm not doing it. Traditional Catholicism is the way to go. [0:39:21] Dave Reilly The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed And I was going to actually ask that because in this book, Holocaust on the high seas, which, you know, let me show you there, Holocaust on the high seas. It's actually, it's available on Amazon.com. It's just $15 came out in 2020. It's got all kinds of great stuff in here. It's got, you know, photos. Let me see if I can show this. It's got, you know, photos of the ship with the bullet holes riddling the side. You know, because people all the time they want to deny that this event actually happened, you know. But in it, I was, I was reading it to kind of refresh myself before you came on. And something struck me for the first time that I hadn't, that I hadn't realized you were raised Catholic. [0:40:06] Rebecca Hargraves I was. What? [0:40:08] Dave Reilly So yeah, you've got to, you've got to come to tradition. You got to come back to the Latin mass because it is, it is insidious. What has happened in this country? And also in the Catholic Church, there's been this growing influence of Zionism within Catholicism. We're seeing it playing out. There's this whole situation right now at life site news where they're going after the leadership there for writing articles critical of Zionism in Israel. And it is such a shame. But, you know, generally speaking, if you find yourself at a place that does the old Latin mass, they make no bones about it. Right. And I think we're seeing a massive resurgence in faith because people are being bombarded with evil. [0:40:52] Rebecca Hargraves And then the recognition that evil exists leads them to believe that that that corollary that God can exist, that goodness can exist. [0:41:01] Dave Reilly And any way that you come to the faith is probably a good one. But no, but, I mean, yeah, if you could please talk about your faith and how your faith kind of has sustained you in the wake of this because, you know, there's that quote right from Christ himself if they hated you. It's because they hated me first. And, you know, one of my favorite passages is from the book of Syracch, chapter 51. And it talks about, oh Lord, please save me from a slanderous tongue and from lying mouths, blah, blah, blah. And so the slander is so damaging to the human spirit. I can't imagine what you've dealt with, especially after the trauma of what you have seen. [0:41:40] Rebecca Hargraves Absolutely. Yeah, I think it's a big part. I'll tell you a good friend of mine and really a dear friend is Pastor Chuck Baldwin, Liberty Fellowship. Calisbel Montana, great guy. Great guy. So is Rick Wiles, true news. [0:42:01] Dave Reilly I think Rick has taken a break from so many days doing the broadcast every day, but he's still doing pretty good. [0:42:08] Rebecca Hargraves He, of course, he, he was a promoter, the man that paid for sacrificing liberty. [0:42:17] Dave Reilly The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed You know, I might add, and this is just a side note. [0:42:23] Rebecca Hargraves Both books, did you held up a race in the Liberty and Holocaust on the side? A high seas. Look on the back and see who publishes it. [0:42:32] Dave Reilly It says rock star publishing. [0:42:34] Rebecca Hargraves Okay. Rock star or money tree publishing. That is Dave Gary. [0:42:41] Dave Reilly Yeah. And he's been collecting money off that book. [0:42:46] Rebecca Hargraves I don't get a dime. [0:42:47] Dave Reilly Oh no. [0:42:48] Rebecca Hargraves Yeah. He's been doing that for years and years and years. What? It never minds. So don't go. My story. Don't go by this then. Don't buy it. [0:42:58] Dave Reilly Yeah. I think Dave actually gave me this book. I saw him last summer and he gave me the copy. But okay, never mind. What, what books do you actually get royalties from? Because we'd like to promote that. [0:43:09] Rebecca Hargraves Well, I don't, I don't get royalties off of any books. [0:43:15] Dave Reilly I mean, I was supposed to with Dave, but that was. [0:43:18] Rebecca Hargraves I got snookered. He out. Fox me. And I don't, I'd never get a contract with him. Why? I didn't contract with him. I just trusted his word. No. But his word is, is not worth nothing. Why is our side like this? [0:43:33] Dave Reilly Why do we do this to ourselves? Greed. I guess. But. [0:43:38] Rebecca Hargraves The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed Yeah. Great. Good point, Rebecca. But the other, the other book I remember would recommend would be. A book by Philip Nelson. [0:43:49] Dave Reilly Remember the Liberty. [0:43:50] Rebecca Hargraves I'm a co-author on it with. When my dear ship makes wrong, Google, he's just passed away a few weeks ago. [0:43:56] Dave Reilly In Ernie Gallo, he was, they were both spies. [0:43:59] Rebecca Hargraves There it is right there. A very good book. [0:44:03] Dave Reilly It's well written and. [0:44:08] Rebecca Hargraves Unfortunately, Philip Nelson, he passed away too. He was at my home. And left. And a couple of weeks later, he was gone. Oh, man. So I mean, everybody's, everybody's moving on. I mean, that's the way life is, but. You know, yeah, I was not happy with Dave. I mean. He likes to sue people. Let. [0:44:32] Dave Reilly Let him try to sue me for telling the truth. [0:44:35] Rebecca Hargraves He said it was going to sue me. [0:44:39] Cameron M That's not happy. [0:44:40] Dave Reilly Oh, no. I didn't know it. I was going to say not some little drama, I guess I'm folding here. [0:44:46] Rebecca Hargraves Phil, what are your thoughts? [0:44:48] Dave Reilly I mean, I know you mentioned it a little bit before, but just, you know, as someone, you know, you have a purple heart. You shed blood for this country. You've gone through unspeakable things. What are your thoughts on the current Trump administration on what's been happening in Gaza? And just the general situation of politics, I guess, in America at this point, what are your thoughts? The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed [0:45:20] Rebecca Hargraves Well, I guess I'd be sadness, to be honest with you. What we're seeing in living color, I mean, you don't see it on national media. [0:45:36] Dave Reilly You don't see it there. [0:45:37] Rebecca Hargraves You see it on social media. [0:45:39] Dave Reilly But the pictures, the carnies, the starvation, the killing is something I can't hardly imagine. [0:45:50] Rebecca Hargraves I just can't imagine being bombarded, bombarded all day, all night, starved to death, and our government's paying for it. Our government's paying is what to do it. For Trump to do that, that's a sin. There you go. Those are just horrific, horrific. And that's a mortal sin. [0:46:16] Dave Reilly That's something you can't be forgiven for. [0:46:20] Rebecca Hargraves And why are countries doing that? The politicians don't mind. Two-thirds of them are all bought off by APAC anyway. No matter what Trump does, they're going to give them money. You know, here you got Tom Massey and Marjorie Tategrain, they're biting at the bit to tell the truth. And yeah, there you go. You guys are sharper than 10 tax. Oh, we're on APAC all the time. That is something positive that can come out of this, is that we've all kind of found each other after being slandered by the ADL. [0:47:02] Dave Reilly The SPLC, we, I think that they have done themselves a disservice by doing this so widely because now we basically have our own community and infrastructure. Yeah, no, it's so funny, too. It's like anytime I see the ADL come out with like a list of people. By the way, I don't know if we mentioned this or not, but last weekend, Grock placed me as the 15th most anti-Semitic account on Twitter. [0:47:23] Rebecca Hargraves Do you know how I know this list is bullshit? [0:47:26] Dave Reilly Why? [0:47:27] Rebecca Hargraves Because I am not on it. Because Laura Lumer is on it. [0:47:32] Dave Reilly The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed Laura Lumer is on it. But still, the fact that Grock gave that responsibility. [0:47:35] Rebecca Hargraves So don't shoot your own horn, mister. I'm just, I've got to at least be in the top 100. [0:47:40] Dave Reilly No way. [0:47:41] Rebecca Hargraves In the real list. I asked him to list the top 100. I wasn't on that one either. Cheese. [0:47:45] Dave Reilly So the list is meaningless. But anyway, the point is that, you know, we know this now. We know about this now that they do this slander. They call you an anti-Semite or whatever other word. A Jew Hater is the new thing, right? Because that anti-Semite is kind of lost its sting. Right. They've overused it so much. So now they've gone to, oh, you're a Jew Hater. Okay, okay. But, you know, back in the 80s, the 70s, the 80s, this is something that people had no earthly idea about. And we've got a little clip here. And I'm sure that, you know, you dealt with this back then. But this whole thing, this whole process of calling people names for being critical of Israel, is according to former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky, basically an intelligence operation, a disinformation campaign that the Mossad is waged. So let's take a look at what Victor Ostrovsky says about these kinds of allegations. Dude, because I used to ask them to do it. [0:48:52] Cameron M I mean, when I was in the Mossad, then we had a guy that gave us problems in the US. [0:48:56] Dave Reilly And he was speaking out. And he was talking like Pete Poff once and said, [0:49:01] Cameron M Israel is bombing Lebanon with poster bombs. [0:49:04] Dave Reilly We say, hey, who's that guy? [0:49:07] Rebecca Hargraves You know, Pete McCuckney needs to call it. [0:49:10] Dave Reilly Yeah. [0:49:12] Rebecca Hargraves Which is Pete the Cockroach. [0:49:14] Cameron M The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed Because he makes a lot of noise and you can't get rid of him. [0:49:19] Rebecca Hargraves So what you do is you get in touch with a guy in the station in New York, [0:49:24] Dave Reilly or in the station in Washington, and you say, tell the guys at Gallagher to label them. [0:49:30] Cameron M And of course the campaign starts before you know it, the guys label. [0:49:33] Dave Reilly And he's an anti-seller. Because that's what we say he is. [0:49:40] Rebecca Hargraves And that's one thing you cannot watch. [0:49:42] Dave Reilly Now, it changed me as a Jew to tell you that. [0:49:47] Rebecca Hargraves But that's the fact. And it's wrong. Good Lord. Well, I think we've all been labeled fill certainly the most effectively. Yes. We were talking before we went live. [0:50:00] Dave Reilly You did this debate with, what was his name again? Cam. Cam maybe. [0:50:05] Rebecca Hargraves And I was watching it and I'm just yelling at my phone. Because the way that he presented things was so dishonest. [0:50:13] Dave Reilly And I was thinking who is paying him? And so I went to the comments just thinking that everybody would say [0:50:18] Rebecca Hargraves that Cam got eviscerated. And they were all supportive. Like the survivors first-hand account is totally meaningless. [0:50:27] Dave Reilly Because somebody came with a bunch of bullet points. And it was just shocking to me that anybody can listen to your story [0:50:36] Rebecca Hargraves The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed and remain skeptical. [0:50:37] Dave Reilly Like you don't know what happened even though you were there. [0:50:41] Rebecca Hargraves Well, very true. I knew when he rattled up a thousand questions at once that this wasn't going to go well. You know, I can handle one or two at a time. That's it. But no, he tried to command the area. And the moderator wasn't that good either. You know, he didn't really. I gave him some bullet points that I showed him to put up. [0:51:12] Dave Reilly He wouldn't do it. [0:51:13] Rebecca Hargraves And I thought that was kind of chicken shit. But they did it anyway. You know, talk about labeling, you know, like Candace Owens. They labeled her and I sent him out of the year. And all this other stuff. And we all get that. But the reason it is because you're over the target. You're pissing them off. [0:51:35] Dave Reilly And they can't stand it. And you know, the truth. [0:51:38] Rebecca Hargraves The truth will set you free. There's no doubt about it. And the truth about the U.S. has liberty. Rebecca and Dave will break the back of the Zionist state. [0:51:48] Dave Reilly It's the truth of the soul. [0:51:51] Rebecca Hargraves It will break the back of the Zionist state. The control they have in this country. Murdering Americans on the high seas with the help of our own government. We'll bust the brackets of both of them. Stop this A-PAC deal that controls our Congress. You either control America. American citizens. Not a foreign government. And to call somebody, well, you call them Aniston, am I? How come they're so special? Right. What would they've done for America? Absolutely nothing because it's billions of lives. Look at these wars. First go for Afghanistan. All of them. Iraq war. All fought for Israel. Not for the United States. I mean, go to 9-1-1. Go to the King David Hotel. Go to the U.S.S. Liberty. And on and on and on. If that doesn't tell you all you need to know, and our government lets him do it, is a pretty sad commentary on who runs our country. Oh, absolutely. I wonder if I should even ask this question because it's so far fetched. [0:52:57] Dave Reilly But if a full investigation was finally conducted, and I think that at this point in time, [0:53:04] Rebecca Hargraves it certainly could be their survivors that have meticulously The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed [0:53:09] Dave Reilly recounted their stories, their still evidence. I think that they really could do a thorough investigation. [0:53:17] Rebecca Hargraves So what specific outcomes would you be looking for that would make you feel like there was some justice in this matter? We would like the Congress to give us one afternoon. After 58 years, one afternoon of justice. They can ask us any question. They can cross examinous, but they will not break us. Because we were there. We saw it. We know what they did and we got all the evidence. That's what they're afraid about. They're just waiting for us to die out, Rebecca. They want us to all die out. And I think this is going to fade away. [0:53:57] Dave Reilly But you guys are young people. [0:53:59] Rebecca Hargraves You know, you're young. And it's not going to fade away with people like you. So thank God for social media. And thank God for you guys. I'll tell you what an honor to be on your show, too. It's a blessing. Anytime I get on there to tell the truth and remember the liberty. And also guys, please. If you got a few dollars to spare. You know, US Liberty Veterans dot org. We're a small group of guys. We try to travel to do things like this. At least I do a lot of traveling. But you know, since Liberty dot org. If you want to buy trinkets, if you want to buy coins, if you want to buy hats, shirts, anything, please go there. And to our site. You want to help us out. Listen, man, you guys are so far ahead of me. I can't believe it. [0:54:50] Dave Reilly I mean, I mean, come on. [0:54:54] Rebecca Hargraves The computer computers is something else. Thank God. [0:54:58] Dave Reilly But yeah, it looks like you've got books up here. There's a membership. What does a membership give you, I guess? [0:55:06] Rebecca Hargraves It's 20 dollars a month for associate member. [0:55:09] Dave Reilly You get our newsletter and upcoming reunions and updates. [0:55:13] Rebecca Hargraves Thanks that are going on. And I'd like to go back to one thing. If we got in front of Congress, we want to definitely want to address them. Why they haven't investigated war crimes. [0:55:25] Dave Reilly The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed Absolutely. And we want to address everything else. [0:55:29] Rebecca Hargraves Say it was a mistaken identity. Just say it was that. [0:55:33] Dave Reilly How about the war crimes they committed against American salism [0:55:37] Rebecca Hargraves rings on the high seas? What about that? I think we all know the answer to that. [0:55:43] Dave Reilly They'll never say it. [0:55:44] Rebecca Hargraves We'll never hear them say it. But the fact that people are asking the question, even online, that's very powerful. It's very meaningful. [0:55:52] Dave Reilly So what message would you have for younger generations [0:55:55] Rebecca Hargraves about remembering the U.S. Liberty and why this is so important? My, for the younger generation, I'll tell you what they are catching on, like wildfire. They're crazy. They are catching on like wildfire. [0:56:11] Dave Reilly And they're energetic about what they're learning, [0:56:14] Rebecca Hargraves what they've been taught, what they haven't been taught. I don't know if you've heard of Brett Pike. He's an author and he's a school teacher and he has a deal online. But we're trying to get a book put together. Children's book about the U.S.S. story where they can learn at a small age about what really happened, not with all the graphics, but how the government works. [0:56:43] Dave Reilly And that's our main deal. [0:56:45] Rebecca Hargraves The young people are the future of our country. But if he continues on the way it is with the old guard holding their hand up to Israel and putting their hand behind their back when they took an oath to the United States protecting the defendant from all foreign, [0:57:02] Dave Reilly more enemies foreign into messing, which they don't do, but the U.S.S. Liberty has. The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed [0:57:07] Rebecca Hargraves That all still stands with us. From all enemies foreign into messing, that includes the IDF, Israel, that murdered my shipmates in cold blood. [0:57:18] Dave Reilly And that's just the way it is. What message would you have for Christian Zionists in particular, especially the pastors of these Christian Zionist churches that get up on Sunday and call Israel our ally that say that basically it's a sin to criticize them? What would your message be to the pastors and to the people that go to those types of churches? [0:57:51] Rebecca Hargraves That's another good question. I was invited to talk at Zionist Christian church with his Israeli flag outside. Jason Neely Pastor, the church in Cedar Delta, Colorado. I spoke to the congregation, very large congregation. It was around right after October 7th. And I told the story, I told the story, and they were interested. But the thing of it is they had a prayer service. They always have a prayer service for Israel to take care of Gaza, Hamas, praying for Israel instead of praying for all lives. So the Christian Zionists are being led down a path. They had to read the King James Version and figure it out a little bit better with the new covenant. The old covenant was wiped out. And we don't, God didn't give anything to those people after the new covenant because what they did. And so the Christian Zionists, God loved them in their own way. They probably, he's been taught that way all their lives and can't figure it out. But it's about time they did. They want to send their sons and daughters to die for Israel. Ask them that question. [0:59:29] Dave Reilly And I did. [0:59:30] Rebecca Hargraves The answer was no. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I have less and less sympathy for people that have been propagandized every day. [0:59:39] Dave Reilly Because especially with COVID and the things that we witnessed over the last few years in Gaza, Ukraine. October 7 was a dividing line. Yes. I had a kind of, even, I don't know how to put it. Not like a sympathetic view, but just like, well, you know, they just don't know. You know, this stuff has been suppressed. I mean, we'd all gotten banned and deplatformed and demonized for so many years, you know, talking about this kind of stuff. But after October 7th, the dam broke and you can't go anywhere on the internet without seeing some other side of this conflict. And I think that to continue at this point to be one of these, you know, flag waving pro-Israel types. It's evil. At this point, it's evil. I mean, you know, when the New York Post for God's sakes, which is like, you know, a pretty Zionist magazine, or newspaper, whatever, to be, you know, publishing these photos of these children starving. But it's because he has a genetic condition. [1:00:43] Rebecca Hargraves Oh, come on. [1:00:44] Dave Reilly That's what it says on the New York Post. Oh, shit. Yeah. The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed [1:00:48] Rebecca Hargraves You got to be kidding me. It was right on that tweet that you pulled up. [1:00:50] Dave Reilly That's bro. I know. [1:00:53] Rebecca Hargraves I know. It's just unreal. I do think that we have some listener questions. [1:00:58] Dave Reilly We do have a couple. And please send in your questions for Phil Turning. We'll ask them all. [1:01:02] Rebecca Hargraves Go to the backlash.net slash super chat. [1:01:08] Dave Reilly Because you guys are slacking. Frankly. Don't abuse our audience. I will abuse them as much as I want. I do in the live chat sometimes. Don't make me hit. No. [1:01:20] Rebecca Hargraves I'm not your wife. You kid. Yeah. Let's see. [1:01:26] Dave Reilly Oh boy. Well, here we go. And we got our first super chat from bust insider. [1:01:32] Rebecca Hargraves Ew. Who sent $5? [1:01:34] Dave Reilly Tucker just had a guy on talking about the Fed. Why would the CIA want to draw attention to the Fed? Gay op imminent. That has nothing to do with this. [1:01:43] Rebecca Hargraves I'm not caught up on Tucker's interviews. [1:01:46] Dave Reilly I'm not caught up on that. But what I do remember seeing to maybe make this a little bit more relatable is Tucker did do a interview about the USS Liberty. Oh, really? I can't remember if it was with Darryl Cooper. But you know, there was a clip. Let me see if I can pull it up. Let's see. Let's see if I can do this quickly on the fly. [1:02:07] Rebecca Hargraves On the fly. The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed [1:02:08] Dave Reilly Tucker Carlson USS Liberty. [1:02:17] Guest When did he do this? [1:02:21] Rebecca Hargraves There it is. [1:02:22] Dave Reilly I don't know if it was with the US policymakers that believe that. [1:02:25] Rebecca Hargraves But you know, I think subconsciously some folks did. [1:02:28] Dave Reilly I think in Johnson, a lot of the USS Liberty to be attacked. He knew those guys were going to die. [1:02:32] Rebecca Hargraves I thought they're all going to die. [1:02:33] Dave Reilly I mean, I think that's true. [1:02:34] Rebecca Hargraves So I mean, that's happened before. He's a president of the United States allowing hoping for the death of US troops for some other agenda. [1:02:42] Dave Reilly Like, there are people that evil when in Johnson was that evil. Yeah. [1:02:46] Rebecca Hargraves I mean, the, you know, when we know now about Gulf of Tonkin and all that other. I think so. Yeah. I don't like how he says some other agenda. What agenda? Tucker say it. Say the thing. [1:02:56] Dave Reilly He's always right there, you know. Was this the other one? Yeah. This was the other clip. [1:03:01] Rebecca Hargraves False flags are very useful. [1:03:04] Dave Reilly The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed Yeah. Very useful. And they work. [1:03:07] Rebecca Hargraves I know. They work sadly. [1:03:09] Dave Reilly USS Liberty. USS Liberty. A famous false flag. You know, you want to get us in the war against Egypt. [1:03:16] Cameron M Well, then Israel and the CIA collaborate and bomb and kill American sailors on the USS Liberty. [1:03:22] Rebecca Hargraves Too bad you didn't kill all of them because a lot of them lived. And they told the world what the hell happened when they tried to use American sailors as a false flag [1:03:31] Dave Reilly to get us into a war against Egypt. [1:03:33] Rebecca Hargraves Didn't work. [1:03:34] Dave Reilly Even though Lyndon Johnson and the CIA tried their damnedest to work with Israel to do it. So you think Lyndon Johnson knew that American sailors were being murdered? [1:03:43] Rebecca Hargraves 100%. [1:03:44] Dave Reilly It goes all the way to him. You could read Blood in the Water. Joe Melon's incredible book. It's so evil that I can't even. He's such an evil, evil human being, such an evil human being. But don't ask Doris Kern's good with that because you know, she'll write a book about how amazing. [1:03:59] Cameron M Anyway, you get the idea. [1:04:00] Dave Reilly So the damn hat's broken on this issue. And I think you're right. I mean, it's just. You can't square the circle between there are greatest ally and they killed 34 of our people and injured another 170. And intended to kill. And intended to kill all of them, right? It's just those two narratives cannot exist side by side. Period. You know, I just don't see it. The amount of cognitive dissonance that one would have to go through is just. It's unforgettable. There's what it is. Yeah. Let's see here. Book track grooves sent $10 on Rumble with a question. When did the helicopter show after the attack? Please confirm the jets did radio and say not to aid USS Liberty. Did the jets see USA flags? Have we done test on that? Bra, can you please work on your English a little bit? It's probably his second language. It's okay. But yeah, I The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed mean, I think you've spoken about this before. There was audio floating around online that I saw. They haven't recorded. Of them saying fire anyway. Yes. So filled the empty comments on that. [1:05:11] Rebecca Hargraves Yeah. We were on their war table a day before the attack. And when the jets were in the air and the unmarked aircraft, one of pilots said, but it's an American ship. [1:05:30] Dave Reilly Yes. [1:05:31] Rebecca Hargraves And headquarters said, you have your orders. [1:05:36] Dave Reilly Attack it. Attack it. [1:05:40] Rebecca Hargraves They did in the consequences of well known of what they did. [1:05:45] Dave Reilly And they did it with a vengeance. [1:05:49] Rebecca Hargraves I mean, you can't believe, I really can't explain it to you. Being on a ship out in the middle of the water with the ocean. No word to run. No word to hide. And going through two hours of a blood bath. You see sailors all over the decks everywhere wounded men. And some so wounded so badly, you could hardly look at them. Hardly look at them. They were wounded so badly. Bring it to your knees and cry. And for the people that run our country from LBJ to now, they're all part of the cover up. So I consider all part of murder by covering up the murder of my 34 shipmates [1:06:39] Dave Reilly and tried to murder the rest of us, including me, no doubt. Accomplices to cold blooded murder. [1:06:46] Rebecca Hargraves And they are by hiding the truth. There are by hiding the truth. And the truth will prevail. It's got to. And I just hope it's in my lifetime. I hope it's so. [1:06:58] Dave Reilly Amen. But even if you, that's not realized for you, you can always know. You can have that reassurance of knowing that you did everything that you could. [1:07:06] Rebecca Hargraves And that in and of itself is, is a powerful thing. Yeah. [1:07:11] Cameron M The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed Well, if it, if it ever happened, they invited some public Congress. [1:07:14] Rebecca Hargraves I'd probably have a separate moment. Here, Elizabeth, there, come. [1:07:17] Dave Reilly But if we need it, the American needs it. Yes, we do. Yes, we do. I feel like a lot, so much of the, the problems that we have in this country is because basically, I mean, I personally believe that the, the, the killing of Kennedy was a, was a coup d'état. And that we've been an occupied country since 1963. And that the entire world view, the, everything that we're taught in school about how our country operates and all the, it's all lies. And I think when you found a society on lies, it leads to disorder. And so I, I really do think that, you know, the moment that we kind of, like, restore some level of truth here, I think everything else is going to kind of. It's on light as the best is infected. We've got another $10 from book track groups. What was the mission of the USS Liberty? What were the actions of the CIA? What are the key notes to convince people to understand? The USS Liberty was the most sophisticated, spy ship in the world at the time. [1:08:20] Rebecca Hargraves They sent us into that area to pick up communications. But it really, it really didn't make any difference. What we were picking up, what we were transferring back to NSA. [1:08:36] Dave Reilly We could, we could send signals back to NSA within three seconds, bouncing it off the move back to NSA within three seconds. Think about that in 1967. You can only imagine what they can do now. [1:08:49] Rebecca Hargraves But it wouldn't have mattered what we were doing anyway. We were set up a sacrificial lamp to sink all for the Zionist, the greater good of visual. That's what it's all about then. That's what it's all about now. [1:09:06] Dave Reilly If the Liberty went down as planned and they blamed it on NASA, what you were going to do. [1:09:13] Rebecca Hargraves Get us into World War III, possibly a nuclear war. [1:09:17] Dave Reilly No doubt because there was a sub there, a Russian sub that was going to nuke Israel. [1:09:24] Cameron M And watching sacrifice, Liberty, that'll tell you that. [1:09:27] Rebecca Hargraves They couldn't get the job done. And we're still alive, telling the truth. [1:09:33] Dave Reilly The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed And the world needs to know that because this isn't just about the crew of the US, it's Liberty. It's about America and our values who we really stand for. [1:09:45] Rebecca Hargraves We stand for America only in no other country. [1:09:48] Dave Reilly We'll protect America and screw the rest of them. Yeah, let's see here. We've got one from Shalom, fellow goyem. [1:09:56] Rebecca Hargraves We sent $5. [1:09:58] Dave Reilly No. I visited Israel on birthright. They told us at a gigantic rally that we could be citizens of our countries, but were Jews first. Me and my buddies looked at each other like, what the fuck? Really? The program should be terminated their propagandizing spies. I don't know where I heard recently, but somebody threw out an estimate. I would think it was in Israeli that threw out an estimate that basically 30% of the Jews in America are essentially functioning as Israeli spies. [1:10:32] Rebecca Hargraves Well, dual citizenship. [1:10:33] Dave Reilly They call them say a name is the name that they give to these types of people that live in other countries and whatnot. Well, let's see, we've got one over on entropy. I don't think it's necessarily directed at you Phil, but I'll read it anyway. It's $10 from SS, Jesus whipped merchants for selling trinkets in God's house. How would Jesus react to IDF bombing God's house full of starving kids? The clergy don't confront Jewish power when they should be the most outspoken and lay people get confused too easily by Jewish propaganda. The church is not the solution. Well, slightly disagree with you. [1:11:19] Cameron M Are we going on questions for Phil? [1:11:21] Dave Reilly I do believe we are good on... Let me just double check entropy real quick and see. Hold on a second. It does this. It gets all fritzy. Fritzy. Fritzy. Good name for a dog. Okay, we appear to be all caught up on that. Phil, thank you so much for joining us and giving your harrowing account of that day on the USS Liberty and the aftermath. We appreciate it so much. [1:11:48] Rebecca Hargraves Can you tell people where they can find you? And we did discuss a little bit about how they can support the survivor's fund. Right. Like I said, the USS Liberty Veterans dot com. They can find me on X at Bill Turney. By the way, I'm starting a podcast. It's going to open up in August. I don't know exactly when. [1:12:14] Dave Reilly The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed Probably around the 20, 21st in that area. [1:12:18] Rebecca Hargraves Be the Phil Turney podcast. I'll have on survivors. Other like-minded people that want to learn the truth from people over there in scholars and people that just care about America. [1:12:33] Dave Reilly We're back in Dave and I got to tell you I'm really honored to be on with you and I do appreciate the time to share my thoughts with everybody. [1:12:43] Rebecca Hargraves And we have one country. We only have America. We can't lose it to a foreign government because we're almost there. Yeah. Are we already taken over? We can't get it back. I hope not. But let's try to so God bless America only God bless America only. And let's quit funding genocide on the high seas and cover genocide in Gaza and genocide on the high seas. Murdering my shipmates and tried to murder us all. And for that, I will always speak about and I'm forever grateful that you guys got me on. Thank you so much. God bless you. [1:13:23] Dave Reilly Thank you so much. And this is our honor is all ours and to the folks that are tuning in. [1:13:28] Rebecca Hargraves Please make sure you follow Phil on X at Phil Phil tourney. [1:13:31] Dave Reilly That's his his at there. There's also the USS Liberty Vets at USS Liberty Vets on X. And please visit USS Liberty dot org. I'm actually about to place a little order here. [1:13:47] Rebecca Hargraves Get a get myself a hat and a couple of pins. [1:13:49] Dave Reilly So again, thank you so much. Thank you so much. appreciate it. Yeah, thank, thank you. Could you send me this one is all done? [1:13:55] Rebecca Hargraves Of course. Absolutely. God bless you guys. Let's get some time. Thank you, Paul. Bye, bye. [1:14:02] Dave Reilly All right. That was awesome. Let's see here. I hate to do this, but I drink this whole coffee and I have to pee. You have to go pee. Oh, okay. Well, great. We got a crypto super chat that I can [1:14:11] Rebecca Hargraves The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed read while you're going pee. How about? Oh, also, you could do analo pill. We could also do analo pill. Very true. Let's talk about our sponsor, Antelope Hill publishing, who is fighting to keep [1:14:24] Dave Reilly history alive against the regime of anti-white censorship and to publish a new generation of dissident radical and right wing researchers, philosophers, polemicists and writers. They have an eclectic catalog and eclectic catalog. Sorry. 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I really thought that there was, I mean, I thought that there was some chance, but you know, I just found out over the weekend, um, did you know that Donald Trump, uh, attended [1:18:01] Rebecca Hargraves Robert Maxwell's funeral in Israel? Wow. I did not know that. That is, take a little detour to kiss the [1:18:06] Dave Reilly wall again. That is news to me. Uh, that was back in like what the early 90s. Also, um, you know, just continuing on our 20 minute fucking advertisement for Antelope Hill. Uh, I did notice this. Um, they are publishing a new book by David Irving. No way. The last battle. Uh, so I don't know. Antelope Hill, if you can hook us up, I would love to interview David Irving. He is one of the most pre-eminent, is that the right word, most eminent, whatever, uh, historians on the truth about World War II. Absolutely. Uh, we can make this happen. I think we can. 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This is cool and all, but if you are ever able to get lightning support, that'd be great. What the fuck is liquid Bitcoin? Come on, bro. Uh, love the show. Have a great week. Thank you very much. Sure it is. Uh, it says streamer, Rebecca. And that's one of the things that you can do. You can choose who this is directed to. [1:21:27] Rebecca Hargraves When Bitcoin goes to 50 million, I'm, we're going to parse through all these ones that were sent [1:21:32] Dave Reilly specifically to me. And I'm going to claim them demand demand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, but, uh, yeah. And you can do that by visiting the backlash dot net. And it's the green one here at the bottom. And so, you know, uh, I am going to work. I'm going to call up the dev sometime this week. And we're going to see the dev. Um, and we're going to see if we can get the lightning integrated here. It is a little bit more difficult. You need to get inbound liquidity blah, blah, blah. Everybody has zoned out at this point. Um, I also want to know, would you guys be interested in having safe Vadina move? Uh, the author of the Bitcoin standard, the Fiat standard. He's, he's, no, no, not, but not, not to talk about crypto to talk about Gaza. Uh, because he, he is like an incredibly, you know, he's very big in, in the finance world, the Bitcoin world, but also he's one of the most at the forefront of criticizing Israel and, uh, talking about what's going on. Then short answer. Yes. Uh, so I think that that might be, uh, very interesting. Uh, Ryan Hart sent $25. [1:22:37] Rebecca Hargraves This is for the use of saying them. Yeah, let me, let me pull this up real quick. People don't [1:22:43] Dave Reilly know about this. Uh, Ryan Hart, daddy of six. Can you believe it? Oh, yeah. Yeah, right here. Uh, we've got an article, most sides mysterious, say a name network of international spies. Um, you know, there's a, there's a resource for you. But yeah, basically, uh, Israel runs. Um, let's see here. Uh, say an M is a Hebrew word that translates to helpers or assistance in English, the context of Israeli intelligence, say an M refers to individuals often living outside of Israel who provide assistance to Mossad, Israel's intelligence agency on a voluntary and often clandestine basis. Uh, these individuals are not Mossad agents themselves, but they offer support resources or information to further the agency's operations. So they're spies. Spice. Spice. They are Israeli spies. Uh, they exist. It's real. And everybody should know about it because if you see some doofus that used to work at, you know, Booz Allen Hamilton that's crawling around trying to call your names, it's probably one of these types of guys. By the way, if The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed anybody's looking at buying a house in court, Elaine, I got a really, really interesting spot for you to check out. [1:23:55] Rebecca Hargraves You know he's watching. Oh, of course he is. Just at his house jerking off. They're talking about me again. New reticent sent $10. Let them look west. Uh, just don't let them [1:24:09] Dave Reilly go there unless they're white, pass an IQ test and exhibit national essential abilities. Yeah, this [1:24:14] Rebecca Hargraves book, uh, let them look west. Fantastic book from our friends at Antelope Hill publishing. I believe [1:24:19] Dave Reilly it's fiction. Um, I haven't read it yet. I'm sorry. I have kids. I don't have the luxury of like reading fiction books at this time. When you have kids, you don't have any luxuries anymore. No, no, it's true. By the way, yesterday was like, you know, driving back, I'll say I was in Montana. I was actually in Calisbell, Montana. I wanted to meet with Pastor Chuck Baldwin, but that didn't have a chance. But anyway, um, you know, we watched like whatever dumb movie, you know, Horton hears a who or something like that. And like we watched three kiddie movies back to back. And then it's like, okay, daddy wants to listen to some music now. And I put on music and my daughter screamed for an hour. Yeah. Yeah. Now I want the spaceship song. She loves the interstellar, the interstellar soundtrack. Yeah. Favorite favorite favorite music. And you've heard my street listened to it three thousand times. I just want to listen to like a little bit of radio head and some yaysay or please. Yeah. You know, but anyway, no, no, no, you can't not allowed not allowed to do it. Not allowed. Okay. I think now we are officially caught up on super Chad. So let me just hit the refresh button [1:25:27] Rebecca Hargraves one more time. Do we do Atlas Boolean? We have not yet done Atlas Boolean. I was saving that for [1:25:31] Dave Reilly last best. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's okay. Uh, book track ruse $10 are blond's DMs. Oh, I'll check [1:25:41] Rebecca Hargraves my DMs. And Jochen Bo Rockford with a big super Chad $50 he sent E. Oh, what are you going to do after R and S? What are R and S? Yeah. Oh, wow. Really milking it, aren't you? I'm just I'm just planning there are other racial slurs, but none is the pack the punch as the onward. You know, I don't [1:26:05] Dave Reilly know. Is anything? Is any racial slurk? Okay. Oh, right. That's got four letters. It's got some bite to it. Yeah. That's true. Bokido ki smoky. That brings us up to date with that. And then, uh, of course, you know, in the wake of this giant financial crisis that seems to be looming greater every day. I'd love that picture. We need to direct your attention to Atlas Boolean.com slash backlash. 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And by signing up for a diverse subscription, you can get a box in the mail every week, every by week, every by weekly, every month, whatever with a combination of golden silver inside or you could just start snacking silver or gold. Let's take a quick look and see if the ticker is working and it's not, but it's okay. I think the last time I checked the gold to silver ratio was something like 90, which is extremely high. So that shows that silver could be a good play. And by the way, they just, they just signed on a new, what do you call it? A new silver group to provide the silver. Let me see if I can pull this up real quick. God, we are just doing the longest fricking commercials today. I'm so amazed that we have sponsors that yeah, north few products. Yeah, check these guys out. You'll be able to buy this through Atlas bullion. So you can always call Kenzie and she'll hook it up. But these guys are really cool. Based in Idaho, using American mind silver. Really? Yes. You know, it's, it's very difficult to try to, you know, properly source it. But these guys make like one ounce cards, you know, and you can collect like a whole deck, basically, of these one ounce cards. What a great idea, which is really neat. So it kind of gives you like a collector's angle of it. Really, you're not going to hear here. Here's another little image that you can see. [1:28:59] Rebecca Hargraves I'm just going to keep buying my silver and jewelry. Yeah. You know, I was thinking about that the [1:29:03] Dave Reilly other day, you know, buy some tracks and YC stuff from that Jewish guy in Brooklyn. What? Get like a big kilo gold chain or something like that. Just like how are you going to get through an airport with like a bunch of gold coins? Yeah. It makes sense to have some jewelry. I don't [1:29:18] Rebecca Hargraves know. But anyway, Atlas bullion dot com slash the backlash. Your purchases help support this show. [1:29:25] Dave Reilly And it can help support your future and your family's future in the wake of all of this monetary debasement. So Atlas bullion dot com slash backlash. Thank you. We really appreciate it. We are geared [1:29:36] Rebecca Hargraves up to have an awesome show on Wednesday. Dave, work with me here. Yes, we are. It's going to be one of our most important shows groundbreaking. Too much too much skill back or I keep expectations real. And next month, the day of his choosing choosing all the folks. So yes, we've already got a few [1:29:56] Dave Reilly booked. I believe on the fourth, we're going to have a slight change of plan. We were going to have pine sap from Jubilee. But now we're going to have a two for one special. It's going to be pine sap and Dumour Nat. Cool. Who was the other guy from Jubilee? Who was the other guy, the one that basically left Medi Hassan like stammering, stuttering, like unable to speak because he didn't understand the the The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed survey that he was using anyway. So that'll be great. They're also both Catholic. So we'll [1:30:26] Rebecca Hargraves get to talk a little bit about that and annoy our pagan audience. And then who else do we have booked? [1:30:31] Dave Reilly Oh, yeah, we got a black guy coming on the show. Marcel Dumas will be on on, I think it was the 14th. Let me double check. The exact cruise is going to come on for a double feet jump. And we're still kind of hammering out. We're supposed to be getting Joe Weben. He's like a [1:30:51] Rebecca Hargraves Protestant minister. Let's see if we can hammer down David Irving for the last month. If anybody has this contact information, you know, the audience is a lot more well connected. I underestimate the [1:31:04] Dave Reilly audience so much. Like I was saying, like we, you know, this poor guy that I thought was a fat. He came to that rosary rally that we did. Why would you think he was a fat? Well, because like everybody was like that was when Patriot Front showed up, there was all kinds of crazy stuff going on. I was telling somebody like open fire in my front yard with like full auto gun fire the night before the pride event. So I thought they were really shooting at my house. I had to call SWAT. It was a problem. And you are very paranoid. I was very paranoid that day. And so it's like, here's this like buff good looking dude. And I'm like, you're too sexy. You got to be a fat. This guy's clearly got to be so, you know, but anyway, you know, I went up to to Montana and he let, you know, me and the family stay at his place and just gorgeous. Absolutely. What him? His house, his family. You know, we prayed the rosary together. It was just like incredible. And so I'm just continually astounded at the agency of our listeners. They're smart. Good looking, thoughtful, caring. It's really great because if you listen to all these like losers on the internet, they want you to think that, you know, only idiots listen to it. But no, actually, we are the future. It totally, this guy that recognized me [1:32:20] Rebecca Hargraves on Vashon, clean cut, totally normal. Yeah. I was like, wow, this is, this is awesome. And that's [1:32:26] Dave Reilly the best part is like, our people are everywhere. We are everywhere. You hear that human rights association of Coraline? Yeah. We are everywhere. Yep. You're not, you don't get the old, it's not like the old days, you know, with Jack boot wearing skin. Yeah. We're just normal people. We blend. [1:32:45] Rebecca Hargraves We blend, except for Dave with his gay, Elton, John glasses that everybody hates. I actually kind of [1:32:49] Dave Reilly like him. And Cameron said to lean into it, lean into it. They are growing on me. What did he say? Go full douche or something. I think something like that, which for me, not hard. [1:33:00] Rebecca Hargraves On that note, we'll see you guys on Wednesday. You can find all of our links at the backlash.net. Thank you so much for joining us for this lovely episode with Phil Turnie. And we will see you shortly. Bye bye. The Backlash - Episode 60 — Bombed by Israel, Betrayed by America_ The USS Liberty Cover-Up w_Phil Tourney_transcribed

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