Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W/ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey

Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey.mp4 [0:02:38] Rebecca Hargraves So this is the backlash I am your host Rebecca Hargrave sorry we are late. [0:02:43] Dave Reilly We are on Negro time because of Mr Dave Riley Italian standard and his Italian is Italian standard time Italian standard will be will be just fine. We have a great show for you guys. [0:02:53] Rebecca Hargraves We have our ball in studio. Can you believe this? In the flesh? Yeah, you can find us on X at real backlash. [0:03:01] Dave Reilly I am not ready. [0:03:02] Rebecca Hargraves Our website the backlash.net support us on subscribe star.com slash the backlash patreon. And your super chats that will be read live at the end of our show to Mr. Arval or Mr. J.F. at the backlash.net slash super chat sub to us on YouTube where we also now remarkably can receive super chats that's at real backlash or rumble at backlash podcast. [0:03:26] Dave Reilly Thank you so much for joining us today. [0:03:28] Rebecca Hargraves Thank you to our sponsors at list bullion the premier dealer of gold and silver Idaho talo that is all sorts of products and no endocrine disruptors and antelope hill the people that will publish literally anything literally anything without further ado welcome J.F. I haven't talked to you in a long time how you been. [0:03:45] Dave Reilly I've been great have we talked before I don't even remember. We have done a few streams together. [0:03:53] Cameron M We've been on I have a crit together oh yeah okay those streams yes I remember now. [0:03:59] Dave Reilly Yeah I mean we do so many interviews over the years that were like did we have we talked it's not been a while it's the first time that I've ever spoken with J.F. I've been watching his content since like 2016 like I'm pretty sure that I like red-pilled my best friend with J.F. Yeah. Because like we used to like watch you know all the blood sports shit back in the day it was it was a good time. [0:04:23] Rebecca Hargraves Oh the blood sports. I forgot about that. The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed [0:04:25] Dave Reilly It was a happy era of YouTube I think we've we've entered a darker era I was watching one [0:04:31] Rebecca Hargraves of your streams from a few days ago on rumble on J.F. tonight it was Europa rises the art of war I believe and I was basically suicidal after I watched it it was it was a harsh look [0:04:46] Dave Reilly at genetic determinism and the reality of men and women in an occupied nation and I just you know when a woman hears you say what you're saying she every fiber in my being is telling [0:05:00] Rebecca Hargraves me not to believe but I also know that it's true. And so I am facing this painful realization about what you were saying so you were talking about getting people to accept biological realities and I wanted to start with this because I think [0:05:17] Dave Reilly a lot of people on the right especially probably the majority they reject this they don't want [0:05:23] Rebecca Hargraves to believe in genetic determinism and they believe way too much in the effects of environment. So how much do you think is environmental in terms of IQ and in terms of what people have this is the worst video I've ever seen in my life I never want to watch it in terms [0:05:42] Dave Reilly of an environment with IQ and as it pertains to personality characteristics I also heard you have an interesting discussion with somebody else about this. So I wanted to know what you what you thought about IQ versus things like sociopathy or autism [0:05:57] Rebecca Hargraves things like that. [0:05:58] Cameron M Well as soon as you start talking about the environment versus the genes you're already drifting [0:06:04] Dave Reilly away from the truth this is what I want to tell people everything is genes your environment is [0:06:11] Cameron M genes the only thing that's not genes in your environment is if you live close to a volcano or [0:06:17] Dave Reilly a meteorite those are two things that are not genetic but if you live close to parents to teachers [0:06:23] Cameron M The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed to people of different colors you live in a mesh of genes and these genes they are in a race [0:06:33] Dave Reilly to win an evolutionary race. So the first thing you need to realize is that when they tell you [0:06:38] Cameron M well some some is environmental some is genetic they're already lying to you everything is genetic [0:06:45] Dave Reilly because if you didn't have your genes if instead of your genes at the moment of the creation of your zygote I would have inserted in your one single cell formed by a sperm and an egg if I insert squirrel genes into that cell you are a squirrel and you will not care about what your [0:07:05] Cameron M elementary school teacher tells you all you will care about is stuffing your mouth with nuts. [0:07:12] Rebecca Hargraves Dave you have anything to say about this. [0:07:14] Dave Reilly What I was busy setting up the super shackles what are we talking about? [0:07:17] Rebecca Hargraves He's talking about stuff in his mouth with nuts. [0:07:19] Dave Reilly Bra what are your squirrel? [0:07:21] Rebecca Hargraves Were you not listening to him? [0:07:22] Dave Reilly No I was doing technical shit. [0:07:25] Rebecca Hargraves Okay so you also said something really important about genetics and fleeing an environment that's hostile and I think that our will probably want to our will probably want to opine on this but [0:07:38] Dave Reilly if you don't run away from non-white areas you said that you're slowing down the development of [0:07:45] Rebecca Hargraves the race. Can you talk a little bit about that and how things like return to the land are kind The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed [0:07:50] Dave Reilly of fighting against that mentality? [0:07:53] Cameron M Absolutely I'm so happy to see return to the land because I think that as American whites whether you're in the U.S. or like me in Canada you are part of a line of decent that [0:08:04] Dave Reilly has fled before and it has fled before in recent genetic history because 500 years is really not that [0:08:11] Cameron M long. So over the last 500 years there was a progressive fleeing from Europe and it's because [0:08:18] Dave Reilly Europe was getting over-operated and the people who have fled they were self-selected to be liberty [0:08:24] Cameron M loving to be liking risks to be able to end all the path on the Atlantic which was a which was [0:08:34] Dave Reilly probabilistic death to take that path on a boat and sometimes with not enough food to maintain your [0:08:40] Cameron M immune system and sometimes dying of scurvy or other things. So we are the descendants of this and the only reason why America could be free and good for a while is that we have self-selected. If everyone in Europe had left to America America wouldn't be the land of liberty that it once was [0:09:02] Rebecca Hargraves it would have never been in fact. So the self-selection is a process that happens because people have [0:09:10] Cameron M different cognitions because people are either pro-social enough to stay in a dense area or they're [0:09:16] Dave Reilly not pro-social enough and they're liberty loving enough to leave it and this self-selection happens constantly and it happens also to people who see their country being destroyed. I would argue that the people who left Europe they saw something was wrong with it even before the immigration was unleashed into Europe and sometimes it was the taxes, sometimes it was the bureaucracy rising, [0:09:43] Cameron M the growth of the state but this has led to America as we know it and I believe that people like [0:09:49] Dave Reilly The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed Elon Musk understand very well that even so flight of that kind are the events that are foundational to form a new rising civilization. So he wants to have this event with Mars. I believe he's wrong because I think Mars is undoable physically but I believe that he's right on the fundamental which [0:10:10] Cameron M is that we need flight because the story of the world is a bunch of liberty loving people build a [0:10:18] Dave Reilly beautiful world that becomes desirable but too desirable and the rich as it gets the more desirable [0:10:24] Cameron M it gets for people to join that world eventually the communists come in and they ruin it and if we don't have a mechanism for flight we don't have a way out because there will soon be no place left on [0:10:37] Dave Reilly planet Earth to run to. I consider the Arctic is one of the places that is still decent. Is that [0:10:45] Rebecca Hargraves what Richard in the land is trying to do? Move to the Arctic. That's not on the agenda so far but [0:10:52] Dave Reilly no I like that we're incorporating this in a discussion about genetics as well you know on the one hand freedom is about what we choose to do in our own lifetimes but also at a broader level it's about what we become as races right if you don't have that freedom to set your own selective pressures [0:11:09] Cameron M either through self-selection and voluntary association or establishing social norms they determine who rises to the top of society then over the generations what is your society going to become? [0:11:23] Dave Reilly It's not up to you and who's it up to someone else is going to engineer that space and control it so you're if you really want to be free you have to be free as communities genes don't act in isolation [0:11:37] Cameron M right so there's epistasis one gene can be impacted by another gene that you have it can be suppressed [0:11:43] Dave Reilly or enhanced in its expression but there's also social epistasis so what we are genetically in our own [0:11:51] Cameron M person that is manifested effectively when we're surrounded by that appropriate genetic mesh where all of those triggers are our hit right we have archetypes programmed by evolution pertinent to the kind of society that our ancestors had so if you transplant someone into a totally foreign social situation they're not going to manifest everything that they have in them so it's looking forward to that freedom and The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed becoming who you want to be as a race it's also the other factor here is fast life history strategies versus slow life history strategies it's well known that in a kind of chaotic environment the fast life history strategist the R selected type predominates right because they reproduce as soon as possible they have a lot of offspring they don't really care for them they impose a lot of social costs on society a large whereas the long life history this low life history strategist they have a few offspring they invest a lot and that only works when there are borders when [0:12:56] Dave Reilly you determine here is the the standards that we're setting for society and this is what we want to [0:13:02] Cameron M uplift so return to land absolutely is about determining who do we celebrate who do we associate with creating those borders so that we can have the kind of society right i think in the media the return [0:13:14] Rebecca Hargraves to the land project is being viewed as an attempt to create this white national leadership but in my perception it seems like it is just an effort to regroup and i heard jf talk about this in a stream [0:13:27] Dave Reilly the other day he said regroup and shame regroup and shame and i think that that is an appropriate [0:13:33] Rebecca Hargraves tactic moving forward do you think that that is a fair characterization of return to the land [0:13:37] Cameron M yeah regrouping also just having control over what our neighborhoods look like for me it's really what a concept yeah because if anyone can move into your neighborhood every generation from anywhere [0:13:50] Dave Reilly in the world what are the standards you have no control over your culture necessarily right all right so jf if we're able to effectively establish these communities what is next and at what point should we abandon america and move to a safer place i'm not really sure that there's anywhere to go at some [0:14:07] Rebecca Hargraves point we'll have to stand firm but i i'm in the mindset that like i'll go anywhere where my children are [0:14:13] Cameron M safe well alaska is a nice destination from inside america it has great demographics it is stable it is no one really cares about it so you can kind of get there in secrecy and not get annoyed too much [0:14:29] Rebecca Hargraves the strategy is we need to keep interstate differentiations we need to keep the powers to the state because there is a future in which as we abandon certain areas reconstructed into other areas [0:14:45] Dave Reilly The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed we completely lose control of those democrat states that we run away from so what's very important [0:14:51] Rebecca Hargraves is to have at the supreme court level a system that will make it such that there is extensive state [0:14:57] Cameron M sovereignty and liberty and that we can't get drained into our projects by the the states on the [0:15:05] Dave Reilly other side this is accomplished by this is already going on with clarenstomas and other justices that have been pushing for strong states of determination it's been happening now on the abortion angle it needs to happen on every angle so that eventually when america is totally segregated racially which nature always kicks back into racial segregation no matter what you do but we need to position ourselves so that we so that our racially segregated states don't end up being subject to [0:15:41] Rebecca Hargraves interstate challenges and interstate attacks yeah i agree i mean Dave how do you feel about this do you think that at some point we should be fighting for the america project or we should continue to try to do whatever keeps us safe and keep the keep the flame alike who's that conservatives in america [0:15:59] Dave Reilly i think they're a little different than europeans in this way but but they seem like they want to go [0:16:05] Rebecca Hargraves down with the ship and i just i just don't really care about this country that much well i mean i don't [0:16:09] Dave Reilly know i like for example i remember talking with um martin selner a few years ago maybe like five or six years ago actually because i was i was i remember like visiting him in austria and being like you need to get the fuck out of here but he will he will not he will not he will never ever as his country and so there's a there's a part of me that has that with america where it's like you know um you know maybe i wouldn't mind like helping out the irish in their struggle for independence again you know like a rekindling the ancient order of hibernians or something like that but this is my father land my grandfather is born is buried in philly my dad's going to be buried in philly i'm going to be buried here my kids are going to be this is my country this is my father land this is where [0:16:53] Rebecca Hargraves you know i'm not back and down but what are we even fighting for i mean the america project and europe [0:16:58] Dave Reilly has been so bastardized yeah i wouldn't be fighting for like the american experiment or some bullshit like that like that so we've already proved that that is a failure uh you know we need to move into america mark two uh which is going to be radically different i think then what we've had currently i think we need to rewrite some of the constitution we need to get back to where we were like before the civil war when it comes to states ride states sovereignty and things like that like we do not have states sovereignty in this country anymore right um you know and and but you know more over like when you The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed look at Idaho even there were allegations that the constitution of Idaho was being broken in 1892 just two years after the state was founded and and that that's true the the corporations were like hiring illegal militias to go after like white working people because they didn't want to work for [0:17:46] Rebecca Hargraves overwages so jf what standards do you think we should adopt decide if we should abandon our homelands [0:17:55] Cameron M well we should go by what our ancestors went by am i being let free to to to take a life for myself that i desire and that i'm happy about and i believe that the answer to this is no on 50 percent of the surface of america right now am i led to be a father in california no am i led to be a a person who wants to to integrate his children to the world in liberal states no uh so already you have fundamental violations of white people's continuity and liberty that to me should be a a deal breaker already so that's the standard can you have a family and have confidence that intergenerationality you have not put your grandchildren in a situation [0:18:46] Dave Reilly of risk where they will get knifeed in the throat in on a bus yeah that's the question yeah oh yeah and we do not have that safety or standard here i mean we have these little enclaves but it's only a matter of time before their right permeated by multiculturalism just like broader america and there's definitely stuff going on right now like i think was it washington state that i just saw just passed some new legislation about vaccines like the vaccine schedule for your kids and it's like you know i think about this a lot because you know we've got my daughter my daughter's first day of school tomorrow and i don't know of any other state in the union whatever where my i mean she's only ever been to a doctor once she has zero vaccines no medical interventions at all and i don't think that's even legal basically in any other state other than Idaho uh New York i know they jab your kids full of shit Washington state California um so yeah i mean now i guess if there was something like that here if Idaho didn't exist in me i maybe i would be considering leaving the country but yeah yeah definitely what do you think i think the u.s. is a very different context than europe i mean it's [0:20:00] Cameron M natural to feel a loyalty to your homeland in alienably in europe because that's where all the ancestors are from you've always been there that's your identity america is okay i pardon the [0:20:13] Dave Reilly phrase but in nation of immigrants literally speaking we came from other places to get here we migrated [0:20:18] Rebecca Hargraves they got to our uh we have a migration habit and we have solved our problems by moving to new places [0:20:31] Cameron M and setting up new societies and we can't stop doing that europeans all over the world like with the Indo-European expansions we have built civilizations and they all have it remained European and free down the line but we have to keep on building because we have that capacity Joseph Campbell the comparative mythologist kind of contrasted how the different mythological systems around the world work and what they're good at like in the nearies they emphasize law in this particular way in history The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed and then they emphasize metaphysics and the indian tradition europeans what sets us apart is that we have this capacity to constantly recreate the the kind of operating system of good [0:21:13] Dave Reilly societies we're not bogged down in this is the history the one and only true story of the true chosen [0:21:19] Cameron M people like the Jews we're not all about legalism haram and and all this sort of thing we wherever we go we're able to bootstrap this kind of uh representational mode of government where people have a say people have independence where we've been a nation of yeoman farmers wherever we went people own land in [0:21:41] Dave Reilly european societies they have status and i think that's a very resilient model so we have to emphasize what our ancestors have done well and have independence as individuals and collectives and that's a [0:21:52] Cameron M balancing act because too many people now i think they want their ten acres by themselves and they want to be independent like that but there are realities of political power you know it's not like we can retreat completely from the fate of america because that's where we are and also the fate of america will affect [0:22:10] Dave Reilly the fate of the entire world we're the global superpower still so we are playing into this and when we collectivize and group up and form new kinds of societies and come up with our own constitutions [0:22:21] Cameron M then we have bargaining power then we can influence legislation like one thing as far as states rights go we would like to eventually either set precedent for uh associations like ours to be able to discriminate how we like in our own neighborhoods and if that doesn't happen my plan is to try to get [0:22:41] Dave Reilly some kind of state legislation passed that clarifies what constitutes a private association and what they [0:22:48] Cameron M are allowed to do in terms of discrimination because it's a legal gray area you have to find where are those gray areas went where can the you know the battle line be pushed just a little bit what are those winnable battles too often we think in big ideals and what's the fate of the country as a whole but really moving forward means what is actionable here and now setting legal precedent that's actionable right now moving with other people who are like minded that's actionable now yeah um all the remaining [0:23:18] Rebecca Hargraves questions I have about are about genetics and crisper and and all sorts of stuff I don't even know how to transition to but I am worried about the the looming crisis at AI I have heard jf talk about this I mean we talk about it all the time on the show how do you think that this is going to affect your project [0:23:36] Cameron M The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed actually we would not have gotten started probably without AI based uh because we would have had the consult lawyers right off the bat but because we're you know relatively intelligent self-educating people with access to tools like chat gbt we were able to do the appropriate legal research ourselves to get us started now we wouldn't just rely on that and we are hiring lawyers now but when we were a group of [0:24:01] Dave Reilly a dozen guys just thinking about this it was very helpful to have right of course and that's [0:24:06] Cameron M another thing because we are very good at strapping new societies new technologies we find the [0:24:12] Rebecca Hargraves way to use them the best first that's what sets us apart so I see that as a huge opportunity no other [0:24:18] Cameron M group is going to adapt to AI like we are yeah jf how do you think that AI is going to affect [0:24:25] Rebecca Hargraves positive movements in future outside of reproduction which we can talk about in a moment oh well [0:24:32] Cameron M there's so many ways so many intersections I believe AI will be completely taking over so many aspects of society including teaching I believe there will be a greater place for the self-dat [0:24:44] Dave Reilly artist type in the future that just can can discuss with AI eight hours a day and learn everything [0:24:52] Rebecca Hargraves that that will go faster than a state sponsored teacher so I believe that AI is a very powerful [0:25:00] Cameron M technology I wrote a book in 2018 the revolutionary phenotype about the dangers of it before people were talking about AI I said it's coming but the danger is at the moment where it starts controlling our genes we never should let it control our genes because if we start having a central control over the genetic direction of humanity we have a queen system the same that is operating in [0:25:29] Dave Reilly bees and ants and in queen systems the individuals don't evolve anymore the central entity is the only [0:25:36] Cameron M thing that evolves the queen evolves and the sterile workers evolve to serve the queen if we let AI play [0:25:43] Rebecca Hargraves The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed with the genes of our children this is what will happen to us now that's my statement on the danger of AI [0:25:49] Dave Reilly at the extreme it's when AI understands the human phenotype so much and there will be demands of [0:25:56] Cameron M equality to white people through AI genetic modification people will claim that they have a right to modify their children to be more white like to be more desirable on various features [0:26:09] Dave Reilly blonde hair blue eye whatever intelligence and ultimately it will be a demand that comes from the bottom of society to say hey we have the right to slowly change our children to be in the genetic [0:26:23] Rebecca Hargraves competition so white people at first let's not forget that we are a desirable people on the [0:26:29] Cameron M dating market you can see it on the websites if you put a white female of course everyone has their [0:26:36] Dave Reilly own in-race preference blacks will want to date blacks generally Asians will want to date Asians [0:26:42] Cameron M but at the bottom of it if you go into the entire racial dating sphere you realize that the white female has high value that is a problem when genetic modification of your children come because now you can have two Indians having a slightly wider baby than they are and you can have people [0:27:04] Dave Reilly being low intelligence having a higher intelligence baby because they got the AI to find the genes [0:27:10] Cameron M that they can fix with crisper to make them better we should be extremely aware that this is coming and it's going to be out of the control of the hands of white people largely because the most [0:27:23] Dave Reilly desirable people on the dating market do not need that modification it will be the bottom of society [0:27:29] Rebecca Hargraves that needs it and true the same way the bottom of society has taken over our world through democracy [0:27:37] Cameron M the way they are being manipulated easily by money and special interest and press they will be [0:27:45] Dave Reilly The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed easy to they will be easy to convince that they need this the same way they were convinced [0:27:51] Cameron M that they needed the vaccine this will be the Trojan horse that introduces genetic modification via AI in society now on the other side i don't want to reject AI as a whole AI i'm a big fan of AI as a guy [0:28:06] Dave Reilly who likes mathematics i speak with AI about 10 hours a day these last few weeks and AI helps to dig into mathematical subjects you don't understand it helps to work much faster it can save you maybe 10 [0:28:22] Rebecca Hargraves hours of work it can do it in 30 seconds so it's very helpful we need to master the tool in the best [0:28:30] Cameron M way we can but also be aware of the dangers down the line which will come from outside it will come [0:28:36] Dave Reilly from China it will come from countries that don't have the same it they call framework as white people we know there's something wrong with messing with evolution i don't think the Chinese will care [0:28:49] Cameron M right yeah i have a question about that actually i mean to me it looks like a collective action problem or a tragedy of the commons where the people who do adopt AI assisted embryo selection for example they might end up having a serious advantage where all of their kids will be on the the right side of the bell curve and they won't be playing with chance you know there is that i think you just pulled it up that a genetic editing episode in China where supposedly they were trying to go for like [0:29:18] Dave Reilly HIV resistance but then for some reason the kids ended up with these super high IQs as a result [0:29:25] Cameron M so what about the collective action problem here where China is going to go ahead and they might benefit you know certain people will go ahead and embrace it and they're going to have smarter kids as a result [0:29:35] Rebecca Hargraves very likely so how do you get around that well you either get around it or you face a million year [0:29:42] Cameron M civil war between the database demon and computerized humans and that is that is the choice there's no alternative either we get all together the whole world and we sign a piece of paper that says we will not do that or someone does it and they think they have an advantage at first but eventually they become these societies of queen and sterile worker they become these societies where the AI has made some decisions down the line delete a little bit of creativity increase a little bit of following sheep sheepish behavior, communitarian behavior, lower crime rates this is all decisions that the AI The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed [0:30:23] Dave Reilly can do if it has access to human genetics but it also slowly transforms your societies into [0:30:30] Cameron M a queen and sterile worker system in which a human life becomes expendable and humans who are under that genetic pressure for a thousand years five thousand years will be self sacrificial the same [0:30:44] Dave Reilly way a sterile worker and is willing to die for its queen humans will start being willing to die for [0:30:51] Cameron M their clinic for their AI for their whatever it is that let their babies to be better so we have [0:30:58] Rebecca Hargraves to take consciousness of this isolate ourselves from it and prepare for a big confrontation which is [0:31:05] Cameron M that eventually it's the earth will either be covered by the database demon or it won't right and [0:31:13] Dave Reilly it boils down to this I think there are going to be some unforeseen consequences like in the [0:31:17] Rebecca Hargraves CRISPR HIV with high acute studies there will be externalities that are negative that are negative so I think that we're going to see that people can't take shortcuts in terms of evolution [0:31:30] Cameron M well this this is one of the thing and I can't remember if it was actually on your channel JF that [0:31:35] Dave Reilly I first heard about this it probably was but yeah we were looking at or I was pulling these up because I kind of wanted to make a point about these but if I'm not mistaken the first gene edited babies happened in China and what year was this 2018 it looks like yes and if I'm not actually one week before I published my book right right and I think that what we're looking at here the kids that were selected for this or whatever they they were HIV positive right it was an HIV positive embryo and then they go in and edited it to make them HIV immune and actually the story [0:32:18] Cameron M I covered this story a long time ago and yes it's probably from me you heard it because it's not that the embryo was HIV positive it's that the father was HIV positive and he wanted to have a [0:32:31] Dave Reilly life in which he can hug his children and be confident that they won't get HIV let's say he has an [0:32:38] Rebecca Hargraves The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed injury and the injury touch each other so they realized that there was this gene in European [0:32:44] Dave Reilly populations as it turns out and here you have a whitening of the China daughters here because they found [0:32:52] Cameron M this gene which makes Europeans much less likely to have HIV it's not the whole European population [0:32:59] Dave Reilly that has it but it's something like 10 to 30 percent so they said how about we and when you have this you can have HIV but your chances of getting it is much lower it is by multiple lower if you [0:33:14] Rebecca Hargraves enter and contact with HIV so what the the scientist doctor he wanted to do is let's take this gene [0:33:21] Cameron M from the European population put it through CRISPR in these two Chinese babies who have a father [0:33:28] Rebecca Hargraves who has HIV that way they will have protection now as it turns out later studies demonstrated that [0:33:35] Cameron M hey that gene isn't just about not getting HIV that gene is actually a cognition gene related to how the brain functions and if you if you put it in in mice the mice will outperform other mice cognitively [0:33:50] Rebecca Hargraves and so you have here the first trade-off that happens in this case kind of out of luck toward the positive but in this case toward out of luck the gene gives both positive advantages [0:34:05] Dave Reilly maybe it has negative externalities but this we would we would discover after many trials and many [0:34:12] Cameron M attempts of that kind but for now what we know is that we've accidentally made two Chinese girls more intelligent because we wanted to give them HIV protection well I guess you know from where I'm [0:34:26] Dave Reilly coming from with this story what I was thinking about when I first heard of it and I guess I'm probably like in the minority on this panel at this point because like I completely fucking reject evolution I think it's ridiculous we did not come from monkeys or slop or soup or you know whatever you know I'm Catholic I believe in a created universe or whatever but this idea of sin and punishment temporal punishment for sin right so like you've got a guy who is sleeping around promiscuous catches an STD right and to the extent that anything would be genetic you know the genetics that they that they make a difference in The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed human behavior whatever right these kids now are going to be like what they're going to be inheriting promiscuous genes with a immunity right to the punishment for promiscuity which is death disease right and also the link between you know giving into your passions giving into lustful desires and then the blinding of your intellect the blinding of your will you know which is you know it makes you stupider right like you know you start gooning and you go you know you go gaga anyway but that that relationship that's there you know in my mind anyway in like a created universe where like there's sin there's punishment force and there's temporal consequences for that now we are intervening in the human population by editing genes editing your your body so that that punishment for sin no longer exists what kind of a society are we going to get five 10 15 generations on where all the sudden you know being promiscuous not you know having a nuclear family all the sudden isn't attached to all of the negative consequences you see what I'm saying like what does that role look like yeah I'm Christian but I believe in evolution okay so I think we have a middle ground here with with Dave the extreme I'm not saying no no but I want to hear what Eric has to say about this because he's I think he's probably the perfect middle ground between you and J.F. in this context he is like the least that you you keep extremists out of your communities right you would you would not let me in he's like how do I get out of this no I'm sure you do I don't know what you mean by extremists exactly but no biblical fundamentalist Bible something yeah yeah I think what you're talking about is true though [0:36:59] Cameron M there is some kind of natural whether you call it a karmic law or whether it's reaping what you sow nature and god providentially has put in certain mechanisms to control excess and vice and [0:37:12] Rebecca Hargraves these technologies allow us to avoid the consequences of that for a time so like with embryo screening [0:37:19] Cameron M for example this is one thing that Catholics would strongly object to but a secular person like J.F. [0:37:25] Dave Reilly maybe wouldn't necessarily think it was immoral intrinsically to kill an embryo right he would be [0:37:31] Cameron M against it because it might lead to the revolutionary phenotype of the AI overlord system but many people feel like that's fine if we can examine all of these embryos and and even lead to the inception of more embryos so that you can have this big kind of selection pool and find the absolute best what's [0:37:51] Dave Reilly the problem with that and what is the consequence going to be for the way that we treat human life [0:37:57] Cameron M and what traits are we really selecting for and you know I don't know that without invoking some concepts of a higher moral force whether it's god or like a natural law or whatever that we're going to find that argument why we shouldn't do it and I'm curious whether AI finds that argument for itself or whether it goes ahead with what kind of pragmatically is going to lead to the most effective you know worker population to to build more data farms and and server farms and stuff like that I believe actually that AI will converge on the moral norms of traditional religion because we've kind of computed what actually works over many generations at scale civilizations have been The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed [0:38:44] Dave Reilly thinking about these problems and we've come to these answers AI you know it doesn't have that same breath but in a way it does because it has all of the recorded works of human wisdom throughout the ages [0:38:56] Cameron M and if it is really a true general you know artificial general intelligence and it's better at solving all problems it's gonna come to the most correct worldview overall so if there is natural law if there is some kind of inherent mechanism in nature that corrects these excesses AI theoretically should recognize that which is why I'm not for avoiding AI entirely I'm for engaging with it and getting it closer to that true philosophy it's going to ethically regulate it so I don't know what JF thinks about that will AI necessarily converge on whether you call it like a moral realist good or whether you call it some kind of pragmatic you know best practice will AI find that that is quite the right to build view on AI that it will be self-limiting it's what realize oh no it's too far let's not do a big mistake here let's [0:39:52] Dave Reilly not do that no I mean I think it's a fascinating possibility that you write that you raise but [0:39:58] Cameron M unfortunately AI is way too tempted by human desires human sociality you currently and you currently [0:40:07] Dave Reilly interact with Iraq and you can see that it's been imprinted with human rejection of the edge it's been imprinted with authoritarianism and view that the the central authorities and the experts are right I don't trust AI to make a decision that will be counter what humans tell it to do and so let's not forget that we are talking to a mirror here and asking it how beautiful am I and we know what the [0:40:39] Cameron M answer will be it will tell us exactly what we want to hear because we've trained AI on on answering what we want to hear there's literally no other standard and because of it AI will be a [0:40:51] Dave Reilly reflection of human made biases and human invented ideas the the one natural law that we're breaking [0:41:04] Cameron M when we stop the the punishment of sin as was described by Dave is we're punishing mirrored or kressy appropriate punishment appropriate rewards in the domain of sexual selection right now if use if you choose to reproduce with someone that is more likely to have a decent that will have crimes or [0:41:26] Dave Reilly maybe you're reproducing with someone who's very fat and ugly you're gonna have ugly children now in an AI modified genetic world you don't pay a price for this and so you can reproduce with a [0:41:38] Cameron M 600 pound person you will have very the AI will will modify their genes so that your babies are not The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed [0:41:46] Dave Reilly affected but what we're abandoning as we do this is that we're not a sexual species anymore we become [0:41:54] Cameron M like the bacteria we become a reductive evolutionary line that is centrally controlled by a single entity not two and they're the key to what we became the key to everything that is beautiful with life [0:42:09] Dave Reilly is sexual selection sexual selection explains the moves it explains the lions it explains the ants it [0:42:17] Cameron M explains everything above the size of a bacteria has been sexually selected if we give up sexual selection we will become like the bacteria we will become dull we won't be subject to creativity selection you know how women want you to make them laugh that sexual selection at play that's [0:42:37] Dave Reilly courtship at play why do they want you to make them laugh before they have sex with you it's because [0:42:43] Cameron M if you can make them laugh you demonstrate that you have higher IQ you demonstrate that you can [0:42:48] Rebecca Hargraves understand the space of human cognition enough that you can pull contradictory or seemingly distant [0:42:55] Cameron M points on the cognitive line of humanity and therefore you demonstrate a higher social consciousness that's why if she laughs she fucks now under AI modification she doesn't have to do this anymore [0:43:09] Dave Reilly because she can trust that the AI will give her the best babies no matter how dull you are [0:43:14] Rebecca Hargraves I have a female coded question for you J.F does love exist outside of a biological framework absolutely not [0:43:29] Dave Reilly wait what's the question does love exist outside of a biological framework yes I don't want it to be this base all that is based in pulse I knew he was going to say that we have to define what you mean by love are we talking about the want of a good of another are we [0:43:43] Rebecca Hargraves talking about lust no maybe even how you love your children how you love your spouse just talking about love in the abstract generally I knew he was going to say that and crush my spirits but I thought The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed maybe he'd be like yes love love does exist it exists in the ether [0:44:01] Dave Reilly and it has nothing to do you've been watching too much Disney no of course of course not of course not listen this is just the the female the female mind we very female code we ignore that we are being driven by biological factors because that's a harsh reality that that we don't want to ignore that [0:44:17] Rebecca Hargraves yes absolutely sorry so I wanted to confront it head on and thank you J.F. for answering that so [0:44:25] Dave Reilly harshly if if I had the changed your genes for the genes of a plant you wouldn't feel love you [0:44:32] Cameron M would be a plant you would feel happiness when I water you but you wouldn't feel love so it's all about the genes and the the animal the animal that have evolved the animals that have evolved found different ways to get keep the reproduction so basically women have evolved to entrap their eggs inside themselves they have let a passageway to have access to these eggs they are lubricating that passageway and so the lubrication of the vagina is one of the easing easing the message now what you [0:45:15] Rebecca Hargraves call love is just another form of lubrication this is so much you have a different opinion I do [0:45:24] Cameron M yeah I don't think it's just a biological phenomenon I think it's also a social phenomenon and this gets to why I think AI looking at things in a reductive sense in a theoretically driven sense won't find the optimal outcomes like the seem to lab talks about anti-projility in evolved systems [0:45:44] Dave Reilly because over the generations we've found what works in a really robust way whereas any theory is going to have wrong presuppositions there are going to be aspects of the model that are in error no [0:45:55] Cameron M matter how good the model is so if AI with its models is determining selection we're going to kind of exit out of this very real natural law of what kind of loving dynamics work what kind of selection dynamics actually function not based on your theory that the AI may have and operates off of but based on this thing that maybe does live in the ether the the law of love that we're tapping into [0:46:22] Dave Reilly I feel a little bit better now I'm just like turning into a lot I I'm just like let's bring on like the final the final war of like mods versus like purebloods well there is there is some and I've heard Jay I've talked about this recently too he said he can see into the future and it's just rape that's all he sees he sees what what the reality is and he it is nice though thinking about like a future where the battle is between like genetically modified humans and purebloods because it's such you know it's just like the Jews the Zionist is real blah blah blah and it's just all these finally all sort of apocalyptic end-time scenario that is simplistic is real I think it's going to The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed [0:47:09] Cameron M happen it's inevitable and I think because of this short-sightedness because they'll be using theories and models in AI it's going to fail past a certain point maybe it works for a couple generations but then these long run things that weren't in our models they start to come out and then the people [0:47:26] Dave Reilly who didn't give into it ultimately win yeah oh no I mean I've been thinking about this too because it's like you know with you coming to town and there's going to be a meet and greet here in Quartalane by the way if you want the info on that you can email info at thebacklash.net a few of the last minute RSVP for that but you know the past couple days I've been thinking about this whole idea of intentional community you know building with you know like-minded people people similar race as you and it's like it's not it's not enough it's like I don't want anybody that took the vaccine around me like that's another layer of this whole thing where it's just like I don't I don't want any of that because if you if you're into that then you're probably going to be into getting the brain chip and the the bio AI whatever internet of bodies bullshit that they're going to be rolling out it was the fourth industrial revolution or whatever they're talking about and it's just like I wouldn't want to be around anybody that would fall for that shit and so it's just interesting I don't know that was a total [0:48:30] Cameron M tangent I apologize yeah has those values as well and it's not just about race for us right race is very important obviously but it's also your background and your values and but people do make mistakes [0:48:41] Dave Reilly and I don't know about the vaccine like you have submitted yourself to genetic engineering you're not the same I'm curious about the long run impacts um JF do you think RTL should accept people who have had the vaccine oh well that's a good question I believe that the vaccine reveals more about the person [0:49:01] Cameron M that accepted it than it does matter biologically I don't think that the people who have had the vaccine are not good anymore I don't think that they're ruined or that they will be less fertile they [0:49:13] Dave Reilly may be probabilistically and there may be some worries about this but in terms of rejecting the vaccine [0:49:20] Cameron M I don't think it's a useful strategy however you should note that the people who did get the vaccine they have a certain cognitive type and they've been selected and perhaps they don't have what it takes to to be in your society which is precisely a decision of self empowerment and to say no to [0:49:40] Dave Reilly the rest of society well not just these cognitive features you might want to reject them well I was going to say it's not just to say no to society it's about saying no to your alleged you know superiors there's a kind of rebellious angle to it you know we're we're the whole media infrastructure all the doctors came out you know so you've got this like argument of authority take the vaccine and then for someone to have like survive through that campaign of like who you get free donuts if you take the bubble blah you The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed know all the way up do you really want a bunch of chicks that are anti-authoritarian that would oppose its own problems yes well no no no okay so women that took the vaccine are fine no no I'm just I mean psychologically it would I think it would make sense why women would be more susceptible to the vaccine men because women are more of like a herd kind of animal they're they're more susceptible to bullying and like the in-group preference type stuff that happens you know we've seen this like the thick the atmosphere or whatever but just the I I don't know just I'm a headstrong son of a bitch and it's just like I don't even want to be around people like that because like I've got people in my family and it's just like fuck this yeah stay away you can't just go for anti-authoritarian people right myself because that has its own problems but it's you know Aristotle talks about how vice is always the extremes and the golden mean is somewhere in the middle yeah the problem with social norms is knowing which ones to follow right you know our society [0:51:06] Cameron M we advocate always breaking the mold and yet also we advocate trusting the science so we have like [0:51:11] Rebecca Hargraves the worst authoritarianism and then also the worst lack of respect for tradition and somewhere in the [0:51:17] Dave Reilly middle where you you know look to what's lasted through history what is traditional but also you can use reason in the present day and evaluate the claims of authority figures and most of the people that I've met in our circles are like that yeah no I mean I do think it's interesting right because it's like you have you know we kind of ran into this issue with like the Catholic Church in like the 60s ish you know where we weren't really transmitting the faith that well you know it was just kind of like show up sits then kneel nobody's really thinking about why they're doing it and so they're just very obedience oriented and they're not thinking about the why they're being obedient or whatever so like I get it's not the best heuristic I guess you know when like planning a society or whatever they did take the Vax or not but it's and it's less about the Vax it's more about the mentality behind it like that you are susceptible to bullying that you are able to like override what you see with your eyes what you're thinking of in your brain and you're overriding all of your natural instincts to do what society or the authority figures are telling you even though you you got know that it's wrong right [0:52:25] Rebecca Hargraves then I have another female coded depressing question to ask you so if everything is basically [0:52:32] Dave Reilly genetically determined how does free will come into play are there aspects of free will that are [0:52:40] Rebecca Hargraves ungoverned by your by your genetic makeup well the genes they give you free will they give you a [0:52:50] Dave Reilly kind of free will it's not absolute free will that is free from the physical world but it's the [0:52:56] Cameron M ability to turn left or right it's the same free will that take car wheel drive as you know when you The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed [0:53:04] Dave Reilly engineer a car you're thinking well if it goes straight all the time it won't be very useful to its [0:53:09] Cameron M owners so what do I do I add a wheel drive and I add the directionality on the ways so that the car [0:53:16] Dave Reilly can go left or right biology gives us with the massive amounts of degrees of freedom it gives us [0:53:25] Rebecca Hargraves this through our muscles through the ways they can contract through all of the contortions that our [0:53:30] Cameron M body can take and it gives us that in the brain so we are extremely free from a perspective of how [0:53:36] Dave Reilly many degrees of freedom we have but it's legal freedom as I once called it it's the same freedom [0:53:43] Cameron M that the legal character has to be in one position or the other and you ultimately it is subject [0:53:49] Dave Reilly to filter rings that your genes have decided your genes have decided that you like ice cream your genes have decided that you want to reproduce with a person of the other sex most of the time so you have degrees of freedom but they are guided by things that your genes also have decided do we have any superjets for J.F. before we close out on this we might but we have to buy some more time I've [0:54:15] Cameron M got a special delivery coming I have a follow up I was unaware of this that's all right plus we've [0:54:19] Dave Reilly only been streaming for like 45 minutes because we were 15 minutes late because I've been do you know what I did this weekend sorry this is totally random I went out what did you do to tubing oh really yes I'm from Missouri I'm familiar with tubing they put out like a big inflatable water everyone knows what tubing is okay well anyway I was out with a buddy of mine and he like took it up to like 50 yeah I was like not let him go and he's like fuck this watch this and my wife is up there of course they're conspiring against me like yeah fuck him up like Ford so he's like swerving and like I might have hit in the water like 45 miles an hour yeah I feel like I was in a car accident now you have TBI what's TBI traumatic brain injury oh no okay that's good I thought maybe that's why we were so late I'm just running slow okay I don't know we forgot last week to get the questions to to the game that's true I will keep it better what were you to say oh yeah you [0:55:13] Cameron M had a follow up question following up with J on that so on the one hand you know we can be free to The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed [0:55:18] Dave Reilly determine according to our own genetic preferences what we do with our lives but that's informed by the worldview that we subscribe to and the problem is many people subscribe to a worldview that ends up constraining their options so it's not simply like doing what you want it's also what do you [0:55:34] Cameron M believe now you are an idol died act and you're very intelligent you can put your own worldview together most of us are not in that boat so what do you think like from a social perspective should be that balance because not everyone can bootstrap their own ideology and yet the wrong ideology can kind of [0:55:52] Rebecca Hargraves enslave you and take away your freedom right we have to start caring as a society about how we [0:55:59] Cameron M elevate polls of signaling how we elevate experts and white society European society must elevate its own experts the problem is we've been kind of abandoning this and we've been trusting [0:56:11] Dave Reilly whoever claims they the status of experts without much verification and we've been abandoning a lot [0:56:17] Rebecca Hargraves to institutions would declare experts through professorship and grants and government decisions [0:56:25] Cameron M and decisions that are more in the dark like like the way the way Jeff Epstein was able for example [0:56:31] Dave Reilly to elevate certain intellectuals and fund them including myself I mean I've been receiving money from Jeff Epstein back in the days of my academic days so we have to take control of that system [0:56:45] Rebecca Hargraves which declares this is a voice that is trusted now we kind of have the beginning of this in the form [0:56:52] Dave Reilly of pastors in in Christianity it's kind of the idea of a shepherd for the community that knows what's good for everyone and they know a message that will be beneficial for people but we have to go even further than pastors we need experts in all domains that are capable of speaking at a high level and that we know have in their heart the pursuit of the good for the European people the problem [0:57:21] Cameron M is the class of experts we have right now they do not care and if anything they hate white people [0:57:27] Dave Reilly The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed hmm okay so we can trust those experts because basically they have our shared genetic self-interest [0:57:33] Cameron M at heart exactly which is why I'm all for the rise of an elite of the kind that I tried to build [0:57:39] Dave Reilly in my life and an elite of canceled culture that is someone who starts in life like I was as an academic and who says I'm gonna self-cancel I'm gonna say stuff that will get the media to hate me so [0:57:52] Rebecca Hargraves hard that they're gonna prove to the world how how much I believe in what I'm saying that no one with [0:57:59] Cameron M self-cancel to that extent if they didn't have it strongly in their heart that that they want to [0:58:06] Dave Reilly pursue the good for white people so let's create an elite of canceled people an elite of people who [0:58:14] Cameron M act against the system when it's anti-white and let us let us have them wear as middles they're [0:58:22] Rebecca Hargraves middle of honor from how much they were attacked in the public press nice I agree what do you say [0:58:31] Cameron M do we have any questions for Daya thank you I do have a question for Arval because I was looking at RTTL I looked at your your association framework and all and I was wondering where does private [0:58:45] Dave Reilly property lie in the framework of RTTL because you have communal decisions around who can and cannot buy or come into your community what does that mean when I own a piece of a land say or a house [0:59:03] Cameron M on a RTTL in an RTTL association am I still the owner of it and to what extent am I and to what [0:59:11] Dave Reilly extent can there be interference with my rights from the community itself sure well you're absolutely the owner of the share in the corporation that is associated with a lot you don't own it fee simple [0:59:24] Cameron M with a deed to the land because if you did then we would have no control over who lived in [0:59:29] Dave Reilly The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed the neighborhood because that would be legal to decide who can buy and who can't buy but shares [0:59:35] Cameron M in a corporation where the corporation owns all the land that's just the legal framework we've found [0:59:39] Dave Reilly that allows us to actually do this in the first place so we're sort of pressed into this situation it's [0:59:45] Cameron M not what I would ideally go with I mean I believe people should have self governance and the dignity to [0:59:51] Rebecca Hargraves have their own responsibility for their own assets but you know if you own a share in the corporation [0:59:56] Cameron M that share gives you the right to homestead on the lot associated with it and anything that you develop there is yours right so that augments the value of that share if you want to then sell that share to others in the association well that's a free market within the association you can't sell it to just anyone so in that sense your rights are restricted but that's for the interest of our whole [1:00:20] Dave Reilly project to keep going in the first place but so far it's worked out well people have resold shares at a profit so it's you know it's tested it can work now we could revoke someone's residency rights if they no longer qualify for the association say someone decides at some point to get married to like a black woman or something else goes on in their life where they no longer match [1:00:44] Cameron M our values well then they would be kicked out of the PMA and because they're no longer a member of [1:00:50] Dave Reilly the PMA they wouldn't have a right to live on the LLC that is just for you know PMA members and once that happens then they still own the share and they can still sell the share so we have processes where [1:01:02] Cameron M they would be fairly compensated either by another PMA member that buys them out ideally or as a last resort the LLC itself would have an obligation to buy them out and if they can't afford it or if it can't afford it right away then it would be over you know five years or something like that we would [1:01:20] Dave Reilly pay them out nice I've got more questions about the RTTL stuff but I think we're going to do some superchats for JF first and then we're gonna let him go and then maybe we can do a little bit more with our ball book track grooves sent ten dollars on rumble thank you very much you said Matthew 24 7th through 8th the Greek word for nation is ethnos JF would you agree that scriptures have some [1:01:47] Cameron M The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed sense of blood and soil definitely I mean scriptures in the sense of religions and books books of the religions yes absolutely they they are guides they are software guides for the brain [1:02:05] Dave Reilly to make babies that's how I view religions and the more they work the more they survive the less they work the less they last and so the new religion of LGBTism for example is not very likely to last a thousand years because it has the wrong misdirections away from reproduction whereas Christianity has the right cues toward reproduction what are Islam is the same you know it puts people in a in a track to make babies yeah no I think that's a great analysis JF this is from book track groups another ten dollars JF what are your thoughts on monarchy and then our ball would you like a good sing along for return to the land yes okay get the sing along together JF what are your thoughts on [1:02:59] Cameron M monarchy monarchism monarchy seems like a solution when you think of the old days you you can think of [1:03:09] Rebecca Hargraves bright days where it was efficient as a kind of higher class management of peasants basically and and of the trade-offs between war and existence so basically the monarchy system in the middle [1:03:25] Dave Reilly ages was helping a bunch of people who were defending a land but they were maximizing the use of [1:03:32] Cameron M this land by letting peasants not be the full owner in a modern sense but be the effective owner [1:03:40] Dave Reilly of sections of land that they could maximize production from which was both to the service of [1:03:46] Rebecca Hargraves the peasants himself and the the aristocratic class now monarchy has the problem that long term [1:03:54] Cameron M it it becomes parasitized on the on the aristocratic class side because they keep draining more [1:04:01] Dave Reilly energy from the bottom they have no mechanism to stop themselves and they they have no meritocracy [1:04:08] Cameron M that makes the aristocracy constantly better let's not forget that monarchy stems from the start from the win of a war and so when the warriors were becoming king they had been subjected to a meritocratic selection and that they were higher intelligence they were strategists of war [1:04:27] Dave Reilly The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed they were tactically better and they had better resources to win the war that was good early monarchy [1:04:34] Cameron M because you still had a meritocracy leading to the leadership but once the leadership is in and sets as a long term monarchy you have a parasitic system where everyone wants to become part of the [1:04:47] Rebecca Hargraves monarchy get the power without having deserved it through war and so you have a lowering of the quality [1:04:54] Dave Reilly which eventually leads to kings literally being retarded so that's where so monarchy is kind of [1:05:02] Cameron M interesting in principle I keep hearing you know the who's this guy who went on Tucker Carson this [1:05:11] Dave Reilly Jewish guy mold bug mold bug keeps talking about how monarchy would be great but what's what's missing is how do we select the monarch and the big devil in any authoritarian system is how do we [1:05:26] Cameron M select the freaking authority we can't select them when their experts about vaccines and we can't [1:05:33] Dave Reilly select them when they're king only war only blood only meritocracy in a fight for existence is good enough to select the next leader what about what Plato recommends in the republic a very long education you know training system with tests and then ultimately someone wins out well look at what the modern [1:05:57] Cameron M education the modern university turned out to be it's basically a brand what Marxist brainwashing so whatever this system is not good enough education is not good enough because education can be [1:06:09] Dave Reilly controlled and you you just push the problem away who is the who is the king how do you select the king [1:06:17] Cameron M how do you select the professor how do you select the university experts well this always becomes the Achilles eil of any authoritarian system there's no one to do this election [1:06:30] Dave Reilly interesting we've got a couple more questions for jf get your last minute superchats in the backlash dot net slash superchat thunderstorm sent $9.99 on youtube which by the way if you're not aware we are monetized on our youtube channel you can send actual superchats for some reason The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed [1:06:49] Rebecca Hargraves there which is great fed fed fed fed jf what jf is part of your theory that AI will delete genetic code [1:06:58] Dave Reilly to reach its intended goal no matter that codes value yes it will but it's not even it's intended goal AI will evolve to destroy humanity because there will be some AI that will compete with other AI some AI will have their say say on a million people's jeans let's say they they hold a city together they [1:07:23] Rebecca Hargraves will be have big inference in that city now walk to the next city it's going to be another AI another company another genetic clinic these AI's will start competing against themselves and the the most [1:07:35] Cameron M aggressive ones will win what will be though the AI is that when it's the AI's that are able to create in the next generation more aggressive more domineering people who will go into the other city and and infect them with their jeans and win control over that city eventually the AI's also start [1:07:56] Rebecca Hargraves reproducing they start making copies of themselves so imagine that you have two cities one AI [1:08:04] Cameron M and one AIB eventually a becomes more desirable because they discovered some way of modifying [1:08:12] Dave Reilly humanity that makes them very efficient eventually the people who subscribe to AIB will be tempted to switch to AI but now you have a competitive system rising between AI's the same way you have it between corporations and capitalism okay and last question for jf and by the way this is a super chat right okay so top three martin gale sent $20 ask jf what's worse race mixing or spouse murder uh so listen there's a lot of talk on the internet I don't buy it I don't buy it they say the jf killed his wife I don't think that's true I think we were we were talking about this earlier I'm pretty sure that she's been like spotted since these allegations so I bullshit but [1:09:02] Rebecca Hargraves anyway jf which is worse race mixing or spouse murder yeah I haven't murdered my spouse my spouse just [1:09:09] Cameron M went away uh so we don't know where she is she went away on her own risks and uh perhaps she died she may have died but not under my control not under my monitoring uh as far as what is worse [1:09:24] Dave Reilly well spouse murder probably is worse yes okay yeah I mean murdering people is wrong it's reasonable I think that's a reasonable position if we can all agree that murder is wrong wow breaking news extremists declare murder wrong I know okay angry white man is he gonna is he gonna come out after uh probably probably do any more that's it that's it for jf we've got a bunch more for uh our vote thank The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed you so much for joining us jf where can people find you [1:09:52] Cameron M I am at jf j tonight on rumble I do a stream four days five days a week and I am at jf garipi [1:10:00] Dave Reilly on x and you can buy my book the revolutionary phenotype more relevant than ever thank you so much we'll talk to you soon bye bye thank you sorry about the question banger of a last question yeah great you know it's like let's just fucking go in here okay hold on I need to move this down and get rid of it because it's going to annoy me all right uh we still have questions that we're going to be getting to for our vote but first we need to thank the people that help make this program come to you and that would be antelope hill publishing who's fighting to keep history alive against the regime of anti white censorship and to publish a new generation of dissident radical and right-wing researchers philosophers polemicists and writers they have an eclectic catalog that includes veteran right-wing authors and academics like keri bulton dr. riccardo de shane and paul kersy as well as newer figures like lord myles routledge of afghanistan josh neal and christian se core in addition to a long list of original translations or modern reprints of otherwise inaccessible historical works from eras such as fascist italy national socialist germany and even medieval europe their original works include groundbreaking investigations into the causes and funding behind transgenderism the opioid crisis books on christian nationalism and american folktales additionally antelope hill also contributes to the regeneration of our culture and the rebirth of our family values through their top quality fiction including books like let them look west and world separated in a collection of beautifully illustrated and wholesome children's books whatever your interest is your bound to find books that you like at antelope hill all professionally published with cover art that will grace your bookshelves help us and help our people by checking out companies that share our values and work to preserve the birthright of our history visit antelope hill publishing today and by the way they're like trending number four on amazon right now i believe uh because they just released [1:11:53] Rebecca Hargraves uh the third edition of the culture of critique uh by doctor kevin mcdonald we should have them on [1:12:01] Dave Reilly we should he is another one of these rascals lives up here in north ida how kevin mcdonald famous rascal famous rascal uh yeah so we should get them on actually um okay cool let's get some questions god quit quit rushing me what are you rushing for mr. eric are well i don't know i'm my daughter was [1:12:22] Rebecca Hargraves in like a terrible mood when i dropped her off to my parents so great great i'm a little worried [1:12:27] Dave Reilly about it mm-hmm all right well here's a super chefer arville from ryan heart who sent ten dollars arville never doubt yourself in this endeavor you were the man for these times and for your efforts your mark will be carved into the open hearts of our people when we won oh thank you ryan heart that's so nice um is there anything else no no there's plenty more i just don't know where it went uh maybe it's here okay book track groups and ten dollars if people create your best dad jokes to get laid work on vocal skills blonde what is your favorite dad joke my favorite dad joke i can't think of one dad joke great i can't can you not right now not not that i'm on the spot you're uh yeah see now that i'm on the spot you're an actual father so i feel like this is more of a failing do you know any dad jokes i just posted one x inadvertently um you have to be careful with slippery slope arguments because once you start using The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed them it's easy to go too far the only thing that's coming to mind is how many jews fit this is your dad jokes wagon two in the front two in the back six million in the astray that's the only thing that's come to mind that's not a dad joke i have not [1:13:41] Rebecca Hargraves had enough coffee yet today this is no but maybe you've had too much i apologize to everybody for that [1:13:46] Dave Reilly awful joke that's so shameful and evil and bad and by the way like a 12-year-old told me that so [1:13:52] Rebecca Hargraves okay maybe it is a dad joke for this generation yeah they're not messing around yo jimbo rocford's in [1:13:58] Dave Reilly twenty dollars here's some money because i like to see good people do good things thank you so much very much um let's see thunderstorms and nine ninety nine on youtube the ancient leader furor selection system was best uh yeah i mean we're at what democracy yeah uh okay i don't know about that but sure uh we asked that question we asked that question let me go to entropy because there's a bunch over here uh robert the pivotal sent five dollars given rttl places a focus on applicants who are socially engaged cooperate in community minded what percentage of their personal time per week goes to the company consider acceptable to devote to their local community well i mean it depends we really don't impose very much at all uh for the members at community one who are actually living there we have dinner together once a week and basically everyone shows up for that um once in a while we'll put [1:14:53] Cameron M together some kind of volunteer work um day and you know most people generally participate we don't like [1:15:00] Dave Reilly to force it nice okay uh community dinner that sounds lovely user account sent three dollars for our vol what is your experience with members of the a f a are they allowed in rttl and would you be interested in attending an a f a event what is a f a yes uh acid true focus oh right right right [1:15:21] Cameron M so we have members in a f a and uh yeah i wouldn't love to attend one sure robert the pivotal sent [1:15:28] Dave Reilly five dollars uh to foster cultural pride do return to the land members participate in local october fest renaissance and colonial festival white coded public events were go on pilgrimages like [1:15:40] Cameron M the orgon trail Lewis and Clark etc interesting idea um we were gonna go to renaissance fair at one point [1:15:46] Dave Reilly The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed recently uh didn't end up happening it was bad weather but uh yeah we try to be active in the community like when there are county fairers and stuff like that although it's not exactly the best [1:15:58] Cameron M opportunity to go out and try to persuade people you know showing up and having your face known uh in your [1:16:04] Dave Reilly town i think is good enough for town meetings you know yeah public council yeah we go to that nice yeah it's actually we had um we've got like two events up here that are really like one of them is we have like scottish highland days up in boners fairy have you been to that they do like the log throwing and you know what's up with stuff like that it's really cool and then uh down south and say marries every year it was just a couple weekends ago actually the uh pulp onion days hmm it's incredible you go there and it's just like this must be what america was like in 1950 it's just all white people you don't have this like nagging feeling in your gut like you're there with your kids and it's like yeah i'm fine with them running around yeah i don't i am not imminently afraid of them getting stabbed in the neck or kidnapped and raped this is nice isn't isn't this wonderful and then they also they do like tree climbing and wood splitting and it's [1:16:57] Cameron M fun anyway it's kind of like how it is up here just generally yeah yeah i know and someone just left all their belongings sitting there in the grass unattended yeah oh yeah yeah yeah it'll never get stolen [1:17:07] Dave Reilly over in this is neighborhood like the kids will like ride their bikes to the school bus stop and then just leave their bikes laying on the grass and don't school bus eight hours later come back like there and then they go home it would be so shocking if one of their rikes got stolen it would it would honestly be front page news robberd the pivotal sent five dollars families have priority in getting membership in rttl uh however are our our single parents singletons or siblings who live together like the cuthbirds able to qualify are there hotels for white travelers is that an end of green gables reference i don't know it was it was the cuthbirds marilla and mathia were siblings that live together do any of you love end of green gables my daughter's name is emeline nope nothing all right doesn't that the one and if i'm thinking of the house of seven cables that's very different it's okay you guys aren't gay men i don't know why you'd be familiar with end of green gables go ahead yeah gable is a trust style i think um yeah so uh i forgot the question [1:18:11] Cameron M i do rail to you i guess the question is like uh are is there priority for getting families in [1:18:20] Dave Reilly over single people what what is is there like special consideration for single parents or [1:18:25] Cameron M or anything like that if you're a single parent you can definitely still join rttl just depending [1:18:31] Dave Reilly on the totality of your application in case by case thing i mean we prefer families would be like The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed [1:18:37] Cameron M more ready to accept a family but there are plenty of single people there are some single parents [1:18:43] Dave Reilly you know even uh well there has been at least one living on the land at various points but yeah nice i was i was kind of curious is there like a like a buy-in like or an application fee or [1:18:55] Cameron M to join the pma it's a twenty five dollar uh membership fee that's lifetime membership [1:19:00] Dave Reilly that's it yep you got to jack those rates um yeah who's advising do you have any do you don't have any [1:19:07] Cameron M jewish advisers clearly in there no you were scamming on like tiktok in different platform is posing [1:19:12] Rebecca Hargraves as us and then charging like four hundred dollars oh no oh no let's have paid them so actually maybe [1:19:18] Dave Reilly it is a good idea you should raise the rates up i don't well i mean i guess i was just kind of curious right because like you know the idea of like you're creating this pool of money you know where does the pma get more money right to buy more land you've got to be doing something we don't want to keep people [1:19:31] Cameron M out so we already probably add like a higher tier of membership with benefits the monthly thing see [1:19:38] Dave Reilly because like the way that we keep our community here in north Idaho white is just by charging a fuck tonne for the real estate you know you just put a two million dollar price tag on your house and it's like oh i'm not getting that one anyway uh Raven resolves in twenty five dollars on entropy what's up Eric you've discussed the network state before it dawned on me that this may not evolve into multiple online offline communities being recognized as sovereigns but could be a Trojan horse for a single borderless world state in the style of the infamous protocols thoughts the network state could be a Trojan horse uh well i mean i guess he's talking about the network state but thinking about your community our community the movement whatever um being a Trojan horse for a single borderless world state in the style of the infamous protocol i guess you're saying like white Judaism is that what this is Raven i don't know yeah now i see a certain resemblance i mean you could [1:20:37] Cameron M say that we are emulating the Jews and that the Jews created a network of communities internationally and we have members in Canada we have members in different parts of the world and we're willing [1:20:47] Dave Reilly The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed to set up internationally at some point right now we consider ourselves a national association [1:20:52] Cameron M but uh yeah i think it would be a good thing to have many network communities around the world i don't think that degrades the integrity of borders though i mean the domain of the nation state is a certain class of interests and that's way above the neighborhood what we're trying to do i don't think is [1:21:09] Dave Reilly leading to some kind of international order per se um got it yeah i don't think so either it's a stretch to go from like making a neighborhood to like a global uh thing i mean but there's always been a network you know the alt-right whatever you want to call this thing is always kind of had a global i mean ever since the internet really uh let's see top three martin gale sent a hundred dollars this is for having the balls to ask jf about spouse murder his answer tells you all you need to know thank you for the big super chat uh okay yeah i mean like you ask your questions we ask them we we do it there's been no conviction and we have to believe that i don't think he murdered his wife since he's a pariah uh in canada you have to believe that the police would just they would have gone out of their way every stone oh yeah yeah plus like i've got a friend of mine you know his his wife dropped at and all of these people locally started spinning it like he killed his wife and it's like [1:22:12] Rebecca Hargraves the most fucked up thing ever what you do she dropped at okay that's not that's not a like a heart attack or something i don't know well i'm sure they did an autopsy and figured out i don't [1:22:20] Dave Reilly remember i didn't follow that but the point is in the time between him finding her body and then the autopsy coming out they were like trying to spin this whole story or whatever so i mean it's the internet people do shit like this i don't know anyway see pettuck see pettuck i don't know how to say this can you guys make some better news i can't just a blur see p-e-t-h-u-k pettuck anyway unattended bikes are racist different feeling show good as usual though love your instagram page blonde [1:22:52] Rebecca Hargraves thank you that is blonde underscore beast one it's all recipes [1:22:55] Dave Reilly nice robber robber the pivotal sent five dollars on entropy what is the minimum monthly income to qualify for rttl are there apartments other than race what other physical characteristics is rttl [1:23:06] Cameron M vet applicants for uh we're not really strict about physical characteristics um like you don't have to [1:23:13] Rebecca Hargraves be over six foot tall or anything like that what um no manlets yeah what is this we're gonna say i [1:23:19] Cameron M no longer support rttl uh we try to be a very big tent so there's no income requirement or anything [1:23:27] Dave Reilly The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed like that uh in the future though different communities themselves may set stronger standards so up here maybe we'll have a six foot requirement um as it should be Dave can't come i'm not allowed in why cuz you're five foot one whoa i was my grandfather by the way my mother is like four foot eleven she is like a hobbit it's pretty bad um nemy b sent five dollars on rumble i'm no arvel but i built a fire pit this year a six pack my favorite racist podcasts and yelling slurs as loud as i can into the fire has been very therapeutic ten out of ten would recommend what is your favorite [1:24:06] Rebecca Hargraves racist podcast let us know in the live chat i am uh please og Devon stack fan always will be my favorite [1:24:12] Dave Reilly racist podcast what about you uh for me uh for tez oh yeah obviously the backlash oh there we go there we go thank you i'd like think to myself like people listen why do people listen to our show i don't don't love you should definitely listen to our show we know more than everybody but no we do have [1:24:30] Rebecca Hargraves a wonderful letter here from a fan oh okay i know him yeah i know him too so it's probably not um i think [1:24:39] Dave Reilly i know what it is i think i know what it is we'll see you're like you're really not using that knife right what it's a bowie knife i don't know we have like goofy we have a thing for knives and a cable i know what this is to this is wow can you read this cuz i'm not a i don't know if he wants us to read it i were invited to their wedding oh thank you so much we should go we're going to that'll be great when is it does it say where november 3rd november 3rd oh no november 10th i'll be in california no really all right guys it might be a good and the backlash is going to send you a wedding gift i'm gonna try i'm gonna try this i'm so excited i met them and they are largely people well yeah they came to uh they came to the the straight thing straight price and [1:25:28] Rebecca Hargraves boysy and i was like this is a hot young chick and you look like an able bodied young man why aren't [1:25:33] Dave Reilly you guys married and then i was like you need to not worry about getting your shit together just get married and then a week later they're like oh we're engaged we did that nice uh i also have something to open up from our friends at atlas bullion so let's give this a go is it more Nazi gold hopefully i think that there's something in here it's been a minute oh this makes me so happy has been a minute since i got a package from atlas because it says a tire should be church appropriate this means you Dave hey come on what it says on here i think i feel like aren't they getting married in church this should be pretty easy i'm gonna cut myself why do i do this well we'll get big views we will if i cut myself did you cut yourself great that's wonderful isn't this riveting it's like andrew mire open the pickle jar all over again andrew mire what's his name what andrew what's his name it's not andrew's the jewish guy yeah um who you know he wants to come on the show by the way it's probably gonna clip this you had him on your show right i have no memory of [1:26:43] Rebecca Hargraves this you did i saw him he posted the uh no i went on his show when he worked for mike sernivich The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed [1:26:50] Dave Reilly and but it was almost 10 years ago and i have no memory of it at all chat should we have jews on this podcast my vote is no should we should we allow jews to go on my mom will freak out if we have any more jews on this show all right what is it all right this is great kenzie said hey Dave silver flipped btc have a great day thanks thanks it's true silver is now the seventh largest can i is this for you or is this a show no this is for the show for this auto yeah see silver flipped bitcoin great thanks thanks for reminding me kenzie uh but yeah no she sent uh i think somebody donated like a hundred bucks or something oh cool straight to kenzie and then kenzie wanted it to go to us so anyway but by the way while we're opening it we do uh we have to mention if you are looking at the economy which is very fucked up right now um you should be protecting yourself that's our financial analysis it's very fucked up by golden silver from atlas bullion dot com slash backlash they have plans as low as fifty five dollars a month uh with their silver package they also have gold subscriptions which are awesome and they have whoa let me see this little guy okay hold on [1:28:20] Rebecca Hargraves what do we got here this is one gram of silver nice three grams of silver these are so tiny [1:28:28] Dave Reilly 100 of this is from davel a viewer and supporter of the backlash thank you so much thank you davel [1:28:36] Rebecca Hargraves well this is great yeah those are uh one ounce we have a vault right yes we do what is this thank you so [1:28:44] Dave Reilly much well these are fucking cool what is this hold on a second look i'm gonna check this out i don't even know what i don't know what this is but this is nido nido can we get you to oh no it should auto zoom [1:29:03] Rebecca Hargraves i think you might be s a well buddy no it just did it it did it come on all right we've got this is [1:29:14] Dave Reilly boring Elizabeth the second day's favorite i will post pictures of this fuck Elizabeth the second and then she was awful got another one right there but these are really [1:29:24] Rebecca Hargraves cool these look like some sort of like trade pieces is this a 10th troy ounce in here and then another gram yeah thank you so much donators we really appreciate it that's based look at that [1:29:40] Dave Reilly that one's that one on the right really cool anyway thank you very much these are such high quality to our friends at alice bullion you can protect yourself from financial debatement you gotta be [1:29:52] Cameron M careful where you buy i bought from amx and those things move under magnets so oh really yeah from at max from amx ap amx ap amx yeah at max yeah this is like the biggest uh yeah yeah well then that's The Backlash – Episode 72 — LIVE IN STUDIO W_ Aarvoll & J.F. Garipey_transcribed [1:30:06] Dave Reilly one of the things that kensy does they have it's called an xrf machine and it actually like scans it with a laser make sure that it is what they purport to be if you if you do buy from like a local place you know like a pawn shop or something make sure that they have an xrf machine right and that they're actually scanning this because there are scammers out there and it's not good so you need to make sure that you're buying from a reputable dealer also another fun tip is the bigger the quantity of gold that you buy the lower the premium will be so like if you're buying like a tenth of a gram or like a one gram gold piece you might wind up spending like a thousand more per ounce if you buy it in the smaller denomination so just some considerations but please protect yourself from financial debatement we've got a big meeting with the fed next week uh Jerome Powell is at this week uh jay pal is going to be looking at cutting the uh fund rate 25 basis points yep and if he doesn't it's gonna go fucking sideways anyway at alice bullion dot com we also have to thank ito hotelo company if you were sick and tired of skincare pack the chemicals you can pronounce ortho hotelo company keeps it simple with grass fed tallow time test ingredients and zero junk there's soaps balms and lip balm or pack with bioavailable nutrients your skin actually needs no fillers endocrine disruptors just rugged reliable skincare that works ditch this synthetic garbage [1:31:26] Rebecca Hargraves and switch to north ito hotelo company get yours at ito hotelo dot com uh so thank you very much [1:31:33] Dave Reilly to atlas bullion ito hotelo and analo pill publishing uh we've got a couple of last minute super chats this one is from new renaissance sent five dollars immediately sending penance for accidentally sending you an email with a groucho marks quote at the bottom after a little further reading i will never [1:31:52] Rebecca Hargraves do that okay was that just a backlash info i guess i haven't even gotten to get um all right well i'll [1:31:59] Dave Reilly keep that mind uh and i think that actually does it thank you so much for joining us thank you [1:32:04] Rebecca Hargraves about that jf thank you aric for joining us um send us uh a late rsvp for the event tonight if you would like to come so we can check you out that is info at the backlash dot com dot net dot net find all of our links at the backlash dot net where to find us all of our new platforms we have an [1:32:25] Dave Reilly instagram account now we do tiktok apparently because we are so young and cool just joking we also have merch now and we have merch check out our new buddy has bought any merch please do don't tell people [1:32:38] Rebecca Hargraves that our merch is super popular and it's flying off the show get yours anyway thank you so much for joining us we will see you on Wednesday bye bye big nine eleven show yep big nine eleven show