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Episode 80
Episode 80
Episode 80
Episode 80 — Academic Agent on Candace, Tucker, and the Slop That_s Killing the Right.mp4
[0:00:07] Cameron M
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[0:02:42] Dave Reilly
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[0:04:07] Dave Reilly
without endocrine disruptors in Antelope, hell the people that will publish
[0:04:09] Rebecca Hargraves
anything without further ado. This is perhaps the interview that I have been the most excited for. I've
been trying to get you want. I've been trying to hammer this down. I've been badgering you. I've been
up in your DMs just for ages. I
[0:04:22] Dave Reilly
just I'm like, you're going to come on my show and you're like, and now you're here. I did it. Academic
agent. How are you today? Well, thanks. Thanks for having
[0:04:32] Rebecca Hargraves
me, Rebecca. And Dave, I know I have to say something. I'm not calling you out
[0:04:37] Dave Reilly
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here, but I did watch your show with Devon and Adam Green. And you started saying
[0:04:43] Rebecca Hargraves
that saying, this is the most excited I've ever been. So I bet you say that to all all of you. Oh, I was really
excited for that one too. But that was a retribution thing because Dave put me on with Dr. Jack Cruz
who is a world-class
[0:04:58] Dave Reilly
asshole. And you just spent the whole time roasting me. I had no idea he was going to spend. So I was
all mad at Dave, you know, because I'm passive aggressive. And so I'm like, how can I get back at
Dave? Woman moment. I know. How could I get
[0:05:10] Rebecca Hargraves
back at Dave? Then I was like, I'm going to have Adam Green and Devon
[0:05:15] Dave Reilly
stack on to double team you based. It was a classic WWE beat down. Sorry, Dave. Oh, yeah. It was
fun. It was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. And you know what?
[0:05:27] Rebecca Hargraves
Afterwards, I felt better. I felt like justice has been restored in the universe. I
[0:05:31] Dave Reilly
slept better that night. Wonderful. But then it was the night after that you started not being able to sleep.
Yeah. Because I've got, so I've got the Apple Watch. Speaking of digital IDs and tracking you, I've got
an Apple Watch. And I got it to keep track of my heart rate and how much sleep I get at night. And I've
been getting some heavy REM recently. Yeah. Ever since school started, the kids have really knocked
out. So Dave, he just like marches into the show the other day. He's
[0:05:54] Rebecca Hargraves
like, Oh, I got four cycles of REM sleep last night. And I like with my coffee and like awake all night. And
I was trying to fall asleep last night. I was thinking
[0:06:04] Dave Reilly
about Dave and his four cycles of REM sleep. It filled me with murderous rates. I got one, two, three,
four, five cycles of REM for a core of it. This isn't what we're going to talk about. Okay. So I wanted to
talk and look at that. An hour and 35 minutes ago. Come on, man. That's the sweet stuff. I have to tell
you guys, I'm a lifelong insomniac. And so I, I know a needless amount about all of this, right? I tried
everything pillows, sleeping in this position, yeah, all alone, a wank, melatonin.
[0:06:35] Rebecca Hargraves
Melatonin works as everything. Oh, yeah. I'll take it. It's all bollocks, like bollocks,
[0:06:42] Dave Reilly
just take melatonin. So it sorted me out. My dad started to, I think he sort of take melatonin too. It's also
neuroprotective. So melatonin is always nicotine, which you can
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[0:06:54] Rebecca Hargraves
get from, well, I went to see the doctor. I mean, he's like, yeah, you don't really produce any melatonin
or serotonin. I was like, well, that probably explains why I can't
[0:07:06] Dave Reilly
experience like joy or lathering. So, you know, yeah, I think I've got some weird thing
[0:07:15] Rebecca Hargraves
and deficiency of it. Oh, well, it has made you extra rational. And I have a lot of questions
[0:07:20] Dave Reilly
about digital idea. I want to talk about that. But we were unable to put it in the title of this show, Dave
tried multiple times. It was some wonky YouTube thing that makes me suspicious. Yeah, like every
other day with the Adam Green show, right? You'll, in the title, I have J star star s, right? Because it
wouldn't let me do a live stream with Jews in the title. It just, it does wonky stuff every now and again,
and it just like not work. And so then I'll just kind of rearrange things and try to leading sections. Good
Lord. Anyway, it didn't like the word digital idea in the title. I've been following this digital ID thing very
closely. And I've seen a surprising amount of a right wing support that they actually believe that the
government is going to use this to stop immigrants from working legally. I'm like, okay, that they could
have done this a number of ways before introducing a digital ID. Are you seeing that on the ground?
[0:08:19] Rebecca Hargraves
Not really. I would say that both while writers, normies, I'd say, if I had to guess by 90%
[0:08:27] Dave Reilly
of the countries against it. Good. But this is one of these things that has been on my radar
[0:08:33] Rebecca Hargraves
for a very long time because one of my kind of special pet hobbies is just tracking Tony Blair, the who I
call the dark Lord. I've been watching him for years. And when Tony Blair
[0:08:48] Dave Reilly
was the prime minister about 20 years ago, he was only ever defeated a couple of times in
[0:08:54] Rebecca Hargraves
the House of Commons. They have votes like they have votes in Congress. But what Blair never
[0:08:59] Dave Reilly
lost, everything was a done deal. Everything was a failure complete. It was done. But he wanted to
bring in ID cards back then. And he was defeated. And while a man like Tony Blair does
[0:09:16] Rebecca Hargraves
not take, well, I mean, I often say he never gets defeated. He only gets temporary setbacks. And since
then, he has relentlessly pursued ID cards for Britain, which is now an overtime obviously with
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technology become digital ID. And yeah, I mean, he's a very powerful figure.
[0:09:37] Dave Reilly
He is backed by Bill Gates, who will people remember from COVID, is quite a dark character
[0:09:44] Rebecca Hargraves
himself. And his number one backer is Larry Ellison, who is also the number one backer of the ID. And
I'm and a big backer of Donald Trump. So yeah, Blair is not, I mean, for most people, he's just like, oh,
that guy used to hang around with George Bush and used to be the
[0:10:03] Dave Reilly
prime minister of the UK. Actually, he's one of the world's most powerful men. He has something
[0:10:09] Rebecca Hargraves
called the Tony Blair Institute, which has now into the thousands of employees. He is in dozens of
countries. He runs, he's the advisor. I made a list of all of the places he advises. It's
[0:10:25] Dave Reilly
like pretty much every African country, every Middle Eastern country. You know, he in a unofficially
advises Kia Stammer. He is constantly meeting state leaders, even though he has no official
[0:10:38] Rebecca Hargraves
position in the UK government. So yeah, Tony, the reason I call him the Dark Lord is because this guy
is like in real life, Emperor Palpatine. And of course, he is one of the few. So, you know, when we look,
when we're kind of analyzing power, I often talk about globalist or technoglobalist
[0:10:57] Dave Reilly
and Zionist as to rival factions, you know, the globalist like Wef, Klaus Schwab, Davos, all,
[0:11:05] Rebecca Hargraves
you know, and these are the people who act as the villains for the right in America, right? And for the
right here. And then you have the Zionists who you guys know all too well because they're crawling all
over the Republican Party and the Trump administration and its Ben Shapiro and so on. And usually we
see those two factions at loggerheads, but somehow for reasons I still, after years of studying, don't
quite understand Tony Blair straddles both of those things. So he's had an
[0:11:39] Dave Reilly
extraordinary week because he not only got his lifetime dream of imposing digital ID on the UK, pretty
much top down without any sort of popular consent at all. But also, he was targeted
[0:11:51] Rebecca Hargraves
to be the new vice-eroy of Gaza, which came out of nowhere. So, yeah, this is something that is pretty
extraordinary because Labour, Kierstama, when they were elected did not have this in their
[0:12:06] Dave Reilly
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manifesto. When they first came in, I think you can track the date, 7th of July 2024, they said, they ruled
it out. They said, we will not do digital ID. And everybody said to me, you see,
[0:12:20] Rebecca Hargraves
yeah, you were wrong. You overestimated Blair. I said, I didn't. You just you watch. Just you watch. He
will surround Stama until he's forced to do it. And now this week out of nowhere,
[0:12:35] Dave Reilly
he's just come out and announced, yeah, we're going to do it. So there it is. And it's a pretty
[0:12:42] Rebecca Hargraves
scary thing because nobody quite that they're saying, oh, at the moment, it's just for
[0:12:49] Dave Reilly
immigrants who are working here and so on. It's just for, you know, to crack down on illegal
[0:12:57] Rebecca Hargraves
work. But everybody has to get one. But also, it's mandatory. So a lot of people are like, well, what does
this actually mean? Is it going to come down to, they're going to be tracking what you buy
[0:13:10] Dave Reilly
and sell on eBay? Are they going to be tracking, you know, like, you know, when you make a purchase
[0:13:17] Rebecca Hargraves
in a shop, right? And then is that going to be linked in some way to your online, you know, is it going to
be like a social credit system, something like this? All sorts of questions. And then
[0:13:29] Dave Reilly
even beyond that, there are questions about security, of course. That is, it can be hacked.
[0:13:36] Rebecca Hargraves
The people's data can be stolen. And then the bit that I don't see anybody talking about
[0:13:43] Dave Reilly
is the fact that the Blair is, I mean, the contract are going to go to Blair's mates. Who do you think is
going to implement the digital ID? It's going to be Microsoft, an Oracle, in a set of public private
partnerships, which is essentially giving state data, state assets
[0:14:02] Rebecca Hargraves
to massive big tech firms. What could possibly go wrong? Oh, yeah. I mean, you just hear
[0:14:08] Dave Reilly
this is a kind of dystopian. This is basically building the matrix. And what where this gets interesting is
that these same figures, these same big tech figures are also mixed with Donald Trump, Peter Thiel
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and Palantino and Elon Musk. And Larry Ellison,
[0:14:30] Rebecca Hargraves
they're all on the same page, Mark and Grayson, but they're basically over the thing is they want
[0:14:36] Dave Reilly
to bring in this control grid. It's the same guy, by the way, Larry Ellison, who's just brought TikTok. And
what did he do overnight? He started to censor TikTok, not allowed to say things on there anymore.
They literally just found the orange juice symbol on there. You can't
[0:14:57] Rebecca Hargraves
post that on TikTok anymore. I saw. Yeah. So, you know, or people have had videos taken down for
really quite innocuous things now on there, just like mentioning a pack and things like this. And
[0:15:11] Dave Reilly
these are basically the people that this digital idea is going to empower. And the America, see, this is
where I get a little bit frustrated with, you know, online rights and Americans.
[0:15:27] Rebecca Hargraves
I mean, the British online right are probably more retarded than the American one, which is saying
something like that. But this is where people have got like, oh, yeah, yeah, that could never happen
here because of, you know, first amendment and Trump will never do that to us. I mean, listen,
[0:15:44] Dave Reilly
they're telling you to your face, they're going to do it. When Curtis Yavin gets up there,
[0:15:48] Rebecca Hargraves
literally, backed by these guys and says, oh, look, you know, what we want is a kind of tech oligarchy,
[0:15:56] Dave Reilly
new monarchy type thing. He's talking about these exact same people. Oh, right. We want the clip of
that in the yesterday. We are going to build this. And it's going to be it's going to be feudal. And you're
going to love it.
[0:16:09] Rebecca Hargraves
That's basically, you know, it's the same cell just from a different angle in America. And I just think
people should, you know, just see things clearly and not get wrapped up in the emotion of
[0:16:22] Dave Reilly
whatever's happening in the current moment, which is basically, which is basically impossible. I mean,
[0:16:27] Rebecca Hargraves
I notice you call the stream, you know, something about slop. Sloppy, it isn't whatever. I mean, I mean,
at this point, the right is so cringey, Rebecca, I'm saying I'm sent a left. Like, I don't
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[0:16:43] Dave Reilly
want to any, I just don't want to be associated with the, with the actually cringe fest that we're
witnessing, you know, but on both sides of the pond, really. Oh, absolutely. You did an excellent
[0:16:56] Rebecca Hargraves
video, but you're a lot of justice retard. So I don't know what to say. You did an excellent video. You've
mentioned Candace Owens and slop content multiple times. And I continue to check in on her
[0:17:06] Dave Reilly
views on Tucker's views and the views that these people are getting are just incredible Candace Owens
during this Charlie thing. She's averaging 10 million views on YouTube. It's I just cannot believe it. So
why do you think that we are so dumb on the right? Why do you think people desire this content? We
talk a lot about short form content and dopamine release, but Candace's long form content and people
are just eating it up. They're slapping it up. Slurping dirt. What is the psychology behind the desire
[0:17:36] Rebecca Hargraves
to consume this? Yeah, I mean, I think, I think we should probably delineate between what I'm talking
about and Candace Owens a minute. Okay. Candace Owens is basically right wing out bruh. Right.
Yeah. Right. If you watch her stuff, okay, she's got like 10 minutes of conspiracy stuff.
[0:17:56] Dave Reilly
Right. And then very quickly it gets into Candace's drama. Who's she feeding with this week?
[0:18:06] Rebecca Hargraves
Now she's at a fight with Nick to answer. Now she's at a fight with this person. Now she's calling
[0:18:11] Dave Reilly
this person now. You know, it's it's basically like it's a soap opera. It's pro wrestling again,
[0:18:17] Rebecca Hargraves
right? But it's kind of more in the kind of opera or Jerry Springer mode. So that's what Candace Owens
is about. I mean, I have a theory that her role, and I don't have much to prove this, by the way, I am
convinced that Candace Owens, if anybody in the actual information space at all, so's disinfo, it's
probably her, right? I've got various reasons for thinking that, but yeah, so I would put her to one side a
little bit because the scale of her is and her audience is a bit different. I imagine a lot of women watch
here, right? I'm talking about like just like the rank and file, the online right, your feed, your timeline,
okay?
[0:19:06] Dave Reilly
I imagine a field that is absolutely covered in rakes, okay? And imagine you step on three of those
rakes, right? It smashed you in the face and broken, you know, three times already. There's something
wrong with right this because after doing that, you'd think you'd learn, but they then want to step on the
[0:19:30] Rebecca Hargraves
fourth rake and the fifth one and the sixth one and the seventh one, you know, because this time it's
happening, this time it's real, et cetera, et cetera. And when you point out in the moment, people call
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you all sorts of things, and then two weeks later, everybody's forgotten about it. It's new cycle after new
cycle again and again, I mean, and what Trump has done, which is so,
[0:19:52] Dave Reilly
was a genius in a way, is he's managed to hook people on these new cycles that are really quite quick
turnaround, and then nobody remembers anything. Nobody remembers anything ever, right? Or
arguments you had just a couple of months ago, give you an example, Liberation Day, do you
remember
[0:20:14] Rebecca Hargraves
that? A block of shit. Yeah, right. I was asked about it with people over that. I said, look, this is not going
to do anything. This is bullet life. Oh, it's the end of globalization, EA. It's the
[0:20:25] Dave Reilly
end of China, China America. It's the end. Jobs are going to come back. This is it. This is what
[0:20:32] Rebecca Hargraves
we voted for. I said, look, they made up the sums. The formula doesn't work. This is this is
[0:20:40] Dave Reilly
ballocks. And within the space of a week, he'd gone back on all of those, all of those announcements
[0:20:47] Rebecca Hargraves
and all of those things. He went back on each one of them and then he cut to China. And now here we
are
[0:20:53] Dave Reilly
nine months later. Does anybody remember Liberation Day? Does anybody remember Liberation Day?
Does anybody like, and this is the thing, people move from new cycle to new cycle, wrecking up these
elves, and then they forget about them because now the most important thing is the next thing. That
was Charlie. Well, we even moved on from Charlie Kirk already. Now it's another bullshit. You know, I
mean, so you don't get to ask this question. This is the issue. It's not a slot ring. It's wrong
[0:21:23] Rebecca Hargraves
with you mom. No, now I'm going to have really weird dreams. Thanks a lot. That clip is circulated.
[0:21:31] Dave Reilly
The most recent iteration of this, though, was the H1B visa thing. Everybody's like, oh, well, H1Bs it's
going to be over because it's going to be $100,000 a year. It's going to be too expensive.
[0:21:40] Rebecca Hargraves
We have Lutnik coming out saying repeatedly annual, annual, annual, $100,000 a year, $100,000 a
year, and then it comes out, you know, it's $100,000 per new visa, per new visa, which basically affects
us
[0:21:54] Dave Reilly
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none. Right. And by the way, isn't this like the ninth time that we've had the H1B fight even within the
last year? Yeah. Remember that we had the one that was the Elon Musk go fuck yourself in the face.
Yeah. That was one fight. Now we've got a new, and it's like, it feel like on a hamster wheel.
[0:22:10] Rebecca Hargraves
It's so infuriating because if you tell your audience, no, this is more of the same. It's more of the
[0:22:15] Dave Reilly
same. Don't get hooked into this. They'll be like, you doom or bitch, why are you so negative? You want
everything to fail. I'm like, I want people to be realistic about what's coming down the pipeline so
[0:22:25] Rebecca Hargraves
that we can be more prepared. You have to accept the reality of the situation we're in. People are,
[0:22:31] Dave Reilly
they do not want to hear it. They don't want to hear it. No. People like, you know, go ahead. Let me just
tell you straight on this. Okay. When Tony Blair was spent all summer day and night, not sleeping,
implementing digital ID, the British rights spent the entire summer climbing up and down lamppost and
putting flags up and declaring a massive culture wall victory. Right. And I was saying like, look, this is
just going to be, this energy is going to be sapped up. It's going to all go to Nigel Farad.
[0:23:02] Rebecca Hargraves
There's going to be this big Tommy rally that's going to happen. And it's not going to amount. It's not
going to actually, like that energy is going to be sucked up and fed into electoral politics and the upshot
of it is going to be prime minister Nigel Farad who, I mean, if Trump is a fake, God knows about
[0:23:20] Dave Reilly
Nigel. Okay. And see, the thing is with Trump, I've come up with something now, right, which I call
Trump's law. And if you're familiar with this, Trump's law is everything he does, everything, and I mean,
everything he does, he does for them, who's them that little country in the Middle East.
[0:23:40] Rebecca Hargraves
Does it? Well, it's it's always for Israel, right. And they'll it'll come wrapped as based.
[0:23:48] Dave Reilly
It'll come wrapped in some kind of thing designed to appeal to you lot. But when you actually look
[0:23:54] Rebecca Hargraves
into it, it will ultimately be because of Israel. Like, for example, remember, there was that whole thing
about bringing the white South Africans back. Do you remember that? Yes. Remember, there was that
whole right now. What was that actually about? That was actually about
[0:24:12] Dave Reilly
South Africa being in the country to take Israel to the international core of criminal justice
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[0:24:18] Rebecca Hargraves
for genocide. Right. So they attacked South Africa specifically for Israel. But they sold it
[0:24:27] Dave Reilly
as based because right in order to get the support of these people who want to believe the Trump is
there for them. But when you when you start to notice this pattern, you then start to
[0:24:39] Rebecca Hargraves
notice that the stuff that is for the base is always done in this kind of manner that can easily be reversed
or overturned. Right. It'll be an executive order, judge strikes it down, doesn't go through
[0:24:53] Dave Reilly
Congress, doesn't get through properly. It's not properly done. Something that can easily be
[0:25:00] Rebecca Hargraves
like in two weeks or three weeks or a month's time, it can easily be walked back or undone. Whereas
when it's stuff for them, every eye is dotted, every tear is crossed. And my first notice there's actually
back in when, do you remember, Rhonda Santis passed something called the Stop
[0:25:21] Dave Reilly
Woke Act. Do you remember that? No. No. Right. So so Rhonda Santis passed something called the
Stop
[0:25:28] Rebecca Hargraves
Woke Act. This was back before we even knew Trump was going to
[0:25:34] Dave Reilly
was this where they instituted some kind of reform in kind of gardens about a training in the training
propaganda? Or was it the time that he went to Israel to like clamp down on free speech? Right. So this
is where I was coming from. So stop Woke Act. At the same time as he did
[0:25:54] Rebecca Hargraves
that, he did this anti-Semitism bill. Right. And he won like the medal for Zionist hero award or
something. He's actually like standing there with a medal from Israel for services to them or whatever.
Okay. And you just read those two acts side by side. Right. The stop Woke Act and the anti-Semitism
[0:26:15] Dave Reilly
one. The anti-Semitism one is tightly defined. It is there is absolutely no legal ambiguity to it. There's no
like you there's just no wiggle room at all. It's done to the letter. The stop Woke one clearly is just done
for the so much wiggle room there is so much ambiguity. Clearly there is a difference between the one
that was done for the base and for the cameras and the one that they were actually serious about. And
that's something that you can
[0:26:45] Rebecca Hargraves
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that's something that Trump has continue while he's in office. Yeah. And a lot of things wind me up with
it because once you see this pattern, you see that the, you know, I sympathize with Dev and Stack.
Right. Because Dev and Stack has seen Dev and Stack recognize this six years ago. Right. And he
pulls his hair out because people fall for it again and again and again. It doesn't matter how many times
you point it out because by on the next one, they've already forgotten it again. But yeah, once you see
Trump's law,
[0:27:17] Dave Reilly
you will not unsee it. And yeah, I mean, and there are lots of things that annoy me like, oh yeah,
[0:27:26] Rebecca Hargraves
one of my least favorite things is base sea vanilla. He's one of the good ones. He's one of the,
[0:27:31] Dave Reilly
he's like, oh, come on. He's like the meme of the, oh yeah, come on. He's one of, how can
[0:27:37] Rebecca Hargraves
you be against this one? You know, he's like, come on. You have to see what this is about.
[0:27:43] Dave Reilly
They are wearing your nationalism, your populism, as a skims to you, to garner support.
[0:27:53] Rebecca Hargraves
Absolutely. Right. For Israel. And it's a trick. Once you see the trick, how can you unsee the trick? What
are we supposed to do with these normies? Because I understand where Devon is coming from,
[0:28:04] Dave Reilly
of course, but I think if we don't play into this narrative, I worry that none of us will ever gain any kind of
alternative media popularity, like in a meaningful way. I don't really think that we need to
[0:28:18] Rebecca Hargraves
to get the movement going. But I would like to capture some of those people, although I've completely
[0:28:24] Dave Reilly
lost faith in the normie. Well, I mean, there's two different things there, right? The, I mean,
[0:28:33] Rebecca Hargraves
that one of the things you have to understand is the online politics, by which I mean this show,
[0:28:40] Dave Reilly
my show pleads and things aren't actual politics, right? It's a kind of form of shared entertainment
[0:28:52] Rebecca Hargraves
or you know, but it's not, cannot substitute for politics because politics is always
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[0:29:00] Dave Reilly
organization, lots of it is boring, it's logistics, and it has to be an organized minority, or you might say a
Vanguard, right? And it has to be in the real world. So there's a, there's a two different set of incentives,
right? Because if you want to start a political movement, okay? What you're looking for is a dedicated,
tight-knit group of people who all think the same thing, who are actually going to be prepared to roll their
sleeves up and do stuff in the real world.
[0:29:35] Rebecca Hargraves
That is all, you know, politics ever, revolutionary movements, and even just normal, normal political
parties. That's what politics is. Online streams, online shows is different. So if you want to maximize
your audience, if you're just about eyeballs, then yeah, you can just say stuff that's going to please
[0:29:57] Dave Reilly
the audience, right? You can come here on, you can come on here every day and say, well, winning so
much
[0:30:03] Rebecca Hargraves
guys, Trump is really going to smash the left this time, you know, and there are plenty of channels
[0:30:10] Dave Reilly
who do that, and they do get hundreds and thousands of views, millions of views, because people like
hope, people like optimism. Can you see this? I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a realist who will,
[0:30:28] Rebecca Hargraves
how can I put it like, I can, I mean, maybe I've got like some autistic problem or I can only just tell the
truth, you know, like some form of weird Tourette's where I can't do it. I'm, I will not
[0:30:38] Dave Reilly
go there. And now, let's see, the thing is, we've just lived through and we've just witnessed the
[0:30:44] Rebecca Hargraves
first nine months of Trump. Now in Britain, the exact same plate, like, it's so embarrassing, they're
literally rerunning the same script, right? Of Keir Starmer versus Nigel Farage. Okay,
[0:30:57] Dave Reilly
remember the whole reason to vote for Trump is because Kamala was so much, so much worse. While
in this country, labor is so bad, they're so awful, right? Yeah, Nigel's not perfect. Yes, Richard
[0:31:09] Rebecca Hargraves
Tyson's kissing the wall, blah, blah, blah. But, you know, we have to, and this is the thing, this is
[0:31:16] Dave Reilly
the, this is the neatest trick of democracy, of liberal democracy is they'll give you literally
[0:31:25] Rebecca Hargraves
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a massive shit as one thing in your level. I don't want that. I mean, like, okay, well here's a, he was a
ship with a flower in it. And I'd be like, no, no, okay, you're gonna give it a piece of
[0:31:35] Dave Reilly
shit. Yeah, but it's got a flower in it, though. This is the thing. And they, it's the same thing in every
single election, right? I mean, I voted for Boris Johnson to keep Jeremy Corbyn out. And when that
happened, and he came in and he did the Boris wave, the biggest amount of immigration ever,
[0:31:56] Rebecca Hargraves
I said never again. And then in the last election, I led a campaign called zero seats to destroy
[0:32:02] Dave Reilly
the Tory party, right? IE, they don't deserve to be a party ever again due to the betrayal of Boris
[0:32:09] Rebecca Hargraves
wave, okay? And it was pretty, we didn't quite destroy them. They still got 100 seats or something,
[0:32:14] Dave Reilly
but they are massively diminished and they look like they're about to go extinct, okay? And I'm pleased
with those results that we mentioned, we're mentioning to destroy the Tories. But now, in a way, it's
back to square one. I always used to say that the Tory party is like T1,000, you know, like, it was seen
to emanate too. You covered him in liquid nitrogen, you've blown him up, he's in a million pieces and
now the bits of mercury are coming back together again. And I'm like,
[0:32:46] Rebecca Hargraves
look, the Tories, they're down, but we have to actually destroy them because otherwise T1,000 is going
to come back. But the system is so clever. And so it's got like so many of these layers of
[0:32:58] Dave Reilly
defense that they're literally just recreating the Tories in reform. Right, right. And literally
[0:33:06] Rebecca Hargraves
Tory MPs are going over there now. And the right wing press and the Daily Mail and so on, they're all
like suddenly they're all right with Raj now. But just like they're all right with
[0:33:16] Dave Reilly
just like they're all right with Trump now. There's a growing sentiment, of course, across the West that
there is no political solution, which I'm happy to see that coming forth. But we've been covering on the
show the insane number of riots in the UK. And it seems like even digital IDs in effect would
[0:33:33] Rebecca Hargraves
not stop this organic movement towards violent reform. And I don't think that they're going to be
[0:33:40] Dave Reilly
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successful in stopping it. Do you think that the British people have had enough?
[0:33:46] Rebecca Hargraves
Well, when you say the insane number of riots, what do you mean? Well, I mean, I suppose we're not
on the ground, so we're just seeing it on Twitter.
[0:33:54] Dave Reilly
See, this is this is this is the thing though, right? This is a thing. And it's one of the strangest things
because if you're an American right winger, all you ever see of Britain is the shit that goes on your
timeline, right? Yes. So in your mind, we're literally living in a can of fate.
[0:34:10] Rebecca Hargraves
Okay. It's like literally I walk down the street and there are rapes going on. You know, is that not
happening? Is that what you're saying? It's just like anything. It's just like if I came to
[0:34:21] Dave Reilly
America and span all day filming in like, you know, in a city Chicago and then presented that as the
entire country. Right. Of course. Right. So but the idea that there has been continuous riots is
[0:34:36] Rebecca Hargraves
not really true. What Southport was, okay, the Southport riot, which was the one that hit all the
headlines, is that so, you know, there was this terrible murder, terrible set of murders by this, by this
young man who was from a random background. Yes. And the locals, you know, I mean,
[0:34:59] Dave Reilly
I mean, they call it a riot. A few people kicked over a few bins and things. And what the British
[0:35:06] Rebecca Hargraves
state did, what Starmer did is he kind of like begged it up into being more than it was and quickly
[0:35:13] Dave Reilly
put all these people in jail. Right. In like they had these expediated sped up trials and put like a hundred
people in jail really quickly and then gave this speech and he called all these people far
[0:35:26] Rebecca Hargraves
right and things like that. Then what happened is that some people on Twitter said, well, we're going to
have more of these protests, some actual riot things. Uh, finally, it was Douglas Murray, Katie Hopkins,
who were, you know, Katie Hopkins was kind of unbanned, the steeriously, a couple of weeks
beforehand, Tommy, who came back to X as well. Um, but I remember distinctly Katie Hopkins and
[0:35:55] Dave Reilly
Douglas Murray, they released all these dates, right. They released all these dates. And um, again, I
was on Twitter saying, yeah, guys, this is obviously like, it's some sort of gay, like this is
[0:36:08] Rebecca Hargraves
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obviously some sort of trap. Don't go into this, right. Because this is a set up. You can just
[0:36:13] Dave Reilly
smell it in my life. Okay. When they're chef, when, when internationally renowned figures, journalists
and so on are sharing dates, something's up. And what ended up happening is that the, uh, the kind of
[0:36:29] Rebecca Hargraves
astroturfed Stanford racism kind of pussy march crowd, you know, the anti racist crowd, um, who
obviously just paid by the state, paying up to these, nobody actually turned up to them, apart from like a
couple of handful of idiots, right. And so they were outnumbered. The, the racist were outnumbered by
the, the anti racist. And then every single, um, newspaper on the same day, and I don't know if
[0:36:58] Dave Reilly
you're able to be able to find this, right. But it's, it's amazing. Every single newspaper that day,
[0:37:04] Rebecca Hargraves
right-wing, left-wing, middle, whatever, they all ran the exact same headline saying, uh, anti-racism
[0:37:13] Dave Reilly
was one, right, showing these kind of astroturfed and to protesters. Um, so that was just obviously, that
was obviously the security state, the intelligence services, MI5 kicking in and running this now
[0:37:28] Rebecca Hargraves
narrative, right, uh, in that moment. Um, see, the thing is, that happened, and then everybody forgot
that that happened. This is what winds me up. People just forget, like, stuff that happened a couple of
weeks ago, but that only happened last year. I lived through it in real time. Um, and so, fast forward to
now, and I mean, have there really been any more riots? There was a, there was a protest outside
some migrant hotels, uh, a couple of weeks back, uh, where things started to kick off. Uh, people had
been putting up flags. Uh, there was this Tommy rally, which wasn't
[0:38:03] Dave Reilly
a riot. It was a, it was a, it was a huge rally in London through speech march. I think, um, police said
150,000 people went, which is big. A lot of people said there were more people there,
[0:38:14] Rebecca Hargraves
500,000, up to a million. Some people claimed, uh, but that was not a riot. That was just, uh,
[0:38:20] Dave Reilly
that was just a kind of, kind of rally. And, um, I mean, as I said, the energy builds up to that something
like that, and then it dissipates, and then it doesn't go anywhere. Do you find hope in the remigration
movement? So, do you have hope in the re re migration movement? So when you say movement, what
do you mean? Like people who want, um, it's um, Martin Salmer is kind of the frontman
[0:38:50] Rebecca Hargraves
in Austria. They've been doing a lot of work in Austria, Germany, France, um, to remigrate a country. I
mean, the thing is, um, the, the, the kind of, uh,
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[0:39:05] Dave Reilly
the various rights of these different countries don't really have much contact in any sense. So,
[0:39:12] Rebecca Hargraves
I'm aware, I think I spoke to him once, Salmer, um, and, uh, you know, I've come across him, but it's
like, what they're doing doesn't really marry up to what's happening. What's happening here? It's very
much bound up with, kind of, kind of national level, local politics. So it's like,
[0:39:33] Dave Reilly
yeah, I guess again, you guys sitting in America, you think, oh, well, over in Europe, but you have to
remember, like, these are all different countries, Britain, France, Germany, they don't really have much
cost over. I was under the impression that these movements in Europe are somewhat united and
coordinated. This is untrue. I know Martin works, um, closely with people from Poland, people from
Germany, France.
[0:40:00] Rebecca Hargraves
Yeah, I mean, then there may be, on the continent, on the continent, there may be some coordination
[0:40:06] Dave Reilly
between some of those, you know, Austrians and Germans say or something like that, but the,
[0:40:12] Rebecca Hargraves
the British scene, as far as I understand it, doesn't have that much crossover.
[0:40:19] Dave Reilly
And if I'm honest, the biggest crossover between any of the different groups is the, is the Zionist
network, the back's populism in every country. That's the biggest crossover.
[0:40:30] Rebecca Hargraves
So, you know, like the same, the same people who backed Tommy, you know, maybe there's one up in
Canada, there isn't a rebel. Yes, there's islands. You know, they're all over America, of course. And
they
[0:40:45] Dave Reilly
have tentacles in every, you know, build those as another one and they've got their own variants in
[0:40:52] Rebecca Hargraves
France as well. So I would say that, that, I mean, you can always tell when it's them because there's a
very, very strong emphasis on counter G had, like the big focus is always on
[0:41:05] Dave Reilly
Islam with those people. See, this is why, and of course, they love it just because they love Israel, let's
tell you that they love Israel as well. See, this is why we have Cameron camped out over in Central
Europe now. He's going to be the one to bring all of these people together. This is why the backlash
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exists is to create our own version of this that isn't controlled by Zionists. So definitely, do you think that
institution of the digital ID is going to basically prevent any future grassroots movement that is
anti-immigration? I mean, I honestly think that even without digital ID, the security state almost makes it
impossible. Not just here, but in
[0:41:51] Rebecca Hargraves
America as well. I think that they are, and like they are drawn because politics is all about organization.
As soon as any group forms and starts to get organized or starts to look like they're organized, not
organizing, they'll be in there. They'll infiltrate it. They'll survey it. They'll
[0:42:11] Dave Reilly
spy on it. They'll be in there. This is one of the things when people look, I just made a video
[0:42:18] Rebecca Hargraves
actually on where the forage is a stepping stone to fascism because some people have this idea
[0:42:28] Dave Reilly
that these populist parties can be like a stepping stone. They can create conditions that you'll then get
like a 21st century version of Mussolini or something. But that security state didn't exist, for example, in
the Vimar Republic or in Italy before Mussolini came in. You have to understand that our state is built
on a single principle never again. The state is an anti-fascist
[0:43:03] Rebecca Hargraves
state. So it is super vigilant. It is super switched on to anything that looks like it's moving
[0:43:10] Dave Reilly
in that direction and they'll be in there. What are we supposed to do here? What do we do?
[0:43:17] Rebecca Hargraves
I mean, it's a tricky one because they are they are pie hot on on that particular thing.
[0:43:24] Dave Reilly
They are pie hot there. Obviously, I'm not saying don't try to organize politically, but probably the safest
way you can do it is just by getting involved in local level politics. Here we have local councils and
things, but I would try to do it independently because if it starts to look like a
[0:43:51] Rebecca Hargraves
big centralized thing, you'll have the eye of sorrow on you. Unless just the reality, that is just the reality
of it. This is horribly depressing. I do these where it is. Yes, yes, indeed. I think
[0:44:05] Dave Reilly
wait a few questions come in for you that we would like to address. We do have a couple. Thank you
guys. We only read $10 and up for show length purposes. I'm sorry. Let's sort of run entropy, DeWidget
sent $15. I grew increasingly tired of people on the right who are vote believers. They chastise you if
you don't vote because they hold this vision in their mind that voting is actually doing something and
solving an issue. Yes, exactly. It gets tiring. I do not vote. I vote. Why why bother? Because who's on
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the local city council and who's on the local school boards and the water district boards and the
highway districts? I suppose I should vote locally, but that matters. I don't think I'm ever going to vote
for president again. Maybe until 2036, when Nicholas J. Fwentis runs for president, I will vote for him,
but I think I'm done voting in presidential elections. What about you, AA? I mean, it doesn't matter. You
can vote. I don't know who cares. That's how I feel. Exactly. Let's see. Ryan Hart sent $10. David was
going to skip the anti-Christ marathon episode entirely because I've already heard everything Adam
Greenberg has to say about my faith. It's both tiresome and easy to repost. Curiosity got the better of
me and I wish I hadn't to say I expected more as the understatement of the year. Ryan Hart is very
upset with me. He does not think that I gave an adequate defense of the faith. It was two on one. Three
on one. It was three on one. I just don't know how I'm going to engage in an argument with people that
literally believe that Jesus Christ was a myth. I don't think that. No, no, Adam and Adam and Devon do.
Richard Spencer too. I love Richard, but they believe that he is a myth and so there is no winning an
argument with somebody unless one side or the other can prove and of course everything that we
would have in our arsenal to try to prove that Jesus Christ was real. The letters from Pontius Pilate from
Josephus, the Bible itself as historical evidence of Christ's existence, you know, let alone like the
establishment of the church and all this. Because they reject that evidence, there's literally no way to
win an argument against them so I just didn't really try or care.
[0:46:23] Rebecca Hargraves
I'm sorry, Ryan Hart. You should blame me. Don't blame Dev. This is my fault.
[0:46:27] Dave Reilly
Blame the woman. Let's see, over on. I just wanted to say real quick. I'm not a Christian, right? But I've
been super into Pontius Pilate recently. Yeah. I really think that the guy who is
[0:46:41] Rebecca Hargraves
misunderstood and I just think he's a very sympathetic character. I've been very into Pilate.
[0:46:48] Dave Reilly
Because, you know, someone who studies politics and the Ethereum stuff, if you were in the same
spot, probably would have done it as well. Probably would have done the same thing.
[0:46:59] Cameron M
Yeah. Well, I mean, they were threatening to cause a riot. They were threatening to cause a riot.
[0:47:05] Dave Reilly
They were going to like call them up. They were calling his loyalty to Caesar into question. They're
doing the exact same shit to Pontius Pilate. What they do to our politicians today. Because it's literally
the same thing. They were lobbying in Pilate. Yeah. All right. There is this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is this
the okay? I don't know. I'm trying to find this quote. There was a quote of Pontius Pilate describing
Jesus Christ and it's like, holy crap. He sounds awesome. But anyway, yeah, it doesn't matter. Anyway,
we are going over to power chat. We got a couple over there. Pacific Northwest Gorilla sent $50. Thank
you. We're looking forward to having you want. He sent three juice boxes. Yeah. You got to bring a fuck
bin when you come out here, man. Do you know what the fuck bins are? They're pretty cool. He likes
sells them on his website and you pay 15 bucks and you either get like a really cool piece of military
surplus gear
[0:48:04] Rebecca Hargraves
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or a can of beans. Oh, you don't know what you're going to get. They're called fuck bins. It's pretty
[0:48:11] Dave Reilly
cool. Anyway, we are looking forward to that. We've got a big month lined up for October kicking it off
strong. Of course, you're with academic agent. But track groups and $10 on rumble academic agent
have you ridden a horse? Why do people not do logistics check up on these policies? The aristocratic
utensil likes to talk about you have you talked with him. That was like three questions. So first, have you
ridden a horse? I have not ridden on a horse. Really? No. But you're so delightfully British.
[0:48:41] Rebecca Hargraves
I find that impossible. You haven't bloomed any croquet. Yeah. I've never done any horse riding. Not a
few girls are right. My horse is back in the day. All of them insane.
[0:48:54] Dave Reilly
And what else? What else do you ask? Logistics check on policy. I've never talked to him,
[0:49:01] Rebecca Hargraves
but I interact with him on Twitter quite often and I've watched a few of his videos as well.
[0:49:07] Dave Reilly
He seems like a good guy. South African guy, right? Aristocratic utensil. I am unsure.
[0:49:12] Rebecca Hargraves
I am also unsure. Although I think I'm subbed to him.
[0:49:16] Dave Reilly
Thunderstorm nine sent $10 on rumble. Industrialists wrote books on 20-minute cities and token
currency plans at the turn of the century. These books are not part of required reading at university like
King Gillette book The City. Okay. Well, I mean, the thing is, I mean, it's going to sound odd, but you
know, all these books here, I've got the Army. This is Thomas Carlisle.
[0:49:42] Rebecca Hargraves
One of Curtis Yavins heroes, right? He had this idea, Carlisle, he was like, look, the catalysts class
[0:49:53] Dave Reilly
are letting us down, right, with all this laissez-faire nonsense. They're absentee landlords. They need to
take control of the ship of state. They need to steer things. And they need to step up and be the new
aristocrats, right? So just like people used to have
[0:50:12] Rebecca Hargraves
social bonds with their lords in a feudal village, right? He wanted industrialists to be the new
[0:50:21] Dave Reilly
captains of industry. And some people did actually take this idea on board. I'm not sure if Gillette was
one, but Bourneville certainly was one. And they made these beautiful looking, they built houses for
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their workers, and Henry Ford was into this sort of stuff as well.
[0:50:40] Rebecca Hargraves
Henry Ford, he built a lot of stuff for Detroit before it was wrecked, hospitals and he set up schools and
newspapers as well, which I'm sure you're aware of. But the idea of the captain of
[0:50:58] Dave Reilly
industry or of the industrialist genuinely acting as that kind of local aristocrat type thing is not on the
face of it, bad. Neither is the 15-minute city when you really start to think about it. You know, you live in
a town, everybody you know is within 15 minutes, you're in a community, right? The only problem is, is
that our current elites are evil, right? But the actual notion of it getting back to something like authentic
feudal life or something where people actually have a community, they care about each other, they
have genuine social bonds, I wouldn't just dismiss it out of hand because it sounds a bit dark or
whatever. There's some good ideas in there for, you know, for me on the center left, and indeed for you
right this other. Well, would you have that up here? There is this funny article you reminded me of it.
Henry Ford would replace gold with energy currency and stop wars. This was an article from like the
1920s. I just think it's funny. I think Henry Ford would have been a big supporter of Bitcoin. Did you
think so? Did you have to shoehorn that and you're probably right? Absolutely, I had to. Well, I had to.
The question talked about token and currency plans and stuff, and I agree with the 15-minute city thing.
I mean, I went on this pilgrimage once to Spain. We did the Camino Santiago over to Compostela and
we got like air dropped into a little town called Surria and we walked like 120 kilometers, you know, and
it was interesting because it's like basically every 10 miles you had a city. So you could do a day of
walking and walk from one city to another, you know, and spend the night, but it was always
reasonable. Like you could actually get from one place to another without a car. Right. And the way that
it was all laid out where you have these dense city centers. And then as you kind of go out from the city,
it becomes more and more rural. And then within 10 miles, you're meeting a new city and it kind of does
it. Again, the car is really fucked everything up, especially in America. Yes. Sargent hotel sent $10 is
the GAE Global List American Empire, still a proper acronym for the United States. Yes. Absolutely.
GAE or Zog, either or interchangeable. Seriously.
[0:53:24] Rebecca Hargraves
Well, I mean, I wrote an article years ago, in fact, called What is the GAE? What is the GAE? What is
the GAE? And I'm in there, I explain why I prefer that to the other one that you mentioned.
[0:53:39] Dave Reilly
I have to say that in the past, or I'll really since, well, since what happened in Gaza, in Israel, 10th, 10th,
7th, and really since Trump has come in, it's just become like a lot of questions have been answered. I
think things that we couldn't quite work out from outside,
[0:54:05] Rebecca Hargraves
things that we debated over, I think a lot of those questions have now been answered. And I would say
yes, the American, the American kind of power system, the military industrial complex
[0:54:20] Dave Reilly
as it does seem like it just answers, like it just does, you know, who's bidding. Of course. And it's now
so naked, so ridiculously naked that they have these conversations on
[0:54:33] Rebecca Hargraves
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extremely mainstream shows. You know, it's this is like stuff that we, you know, would think about,
[0:54:43] Dave Reilly
or you know, five years ago, all of those questions have been answered. It's just so naked in your face
at the moment, you know, literally with netting, you know, telling you to your face what's happening.
What's the latest Tucker Carlson? I mean, it's just, I was just going to bring that up. Last night,
[0:55:01] Rebecca Hargraves
Tucker Carlson did release an episode with Jeffrey Sachs, seriously, about an hour and a half long.
[0:55:07] Dave Reilly
You should wish. Okay. Yeah. So he also worked for like George Soros. He's kind of like a leftist. But it
is interesting. I mean, to good episode, I mean, Tucker still does this thing where he makes these carve
out like, oh, the real anti-Semites. And it's like, buddy, there are no real anti-Semites. That's the whole
point is like, that's fake. I mean, maybe there are, but the whole point is like, like, I got, when we all got
canceled, it was for the same thing that Tucker's engaging in now. You know, and so what? Maybe
we're 10 years down the line. It doesn't make us a real anti-Semite. I'm a real anti-Semite. I guess. I
don't know. I just six or one, but I, of course, condemn all big
[0:55:52] Rebecca Hargraves
a tree. You're legally required. I, yes. I mean, terrible what happened today. I heard about this.
[0:56:01] Dave Reilly
There was a car terrorist attack in Manchester, I guess. A couple people are dead. Some, somebody
has driven a car into a synagogue. Yeah. I think I was, I think I was
[0:56:14] Rebecca Hargraves
stabbing involved as well. Oh, really? Yeah, the police, well, I'm not actually sure if we know who it was
yet, but certainly it looks like it may be, it may be, you know, a messenger from the religion of peace.
But, you know, you have to remember that the true spirits of Manchester is the, that we don't
[0:56:40] Dave Reilly
look back at Anger. Don't look back at Anger because that's what happened. If you remember,
[0:56:46] Rebecca Hargraves
oh, we remember. If you remember, everybody got their candles out. Yes. And they're a racist song out
and don't look back at Anger. So that's what my immediate response
[0:56:59] Dave Reilly
today, you know, because they're, well, it's good imagine the rhetoric is quite different now.
[0:57:05] Rebecca Hargraves
Right. But to come back to the, the Jeffrey Sachs thing, I do think there's quite serious, um, you know,
so tactical consideration to make when it comes to this topic.
[0:57:19] Dave Reilly
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If you have a look in history, when it comes to this particular group that we're talking about,
[0:57:25] Rebecca Hargraves
they have always made vertical relationships with power. Okay. It was, you know, they were there on
[0:57:32] Dave Reilly
the, um, as guests of the king in many, many cases. I watched a guy a year ago called Leon Vice
Lighter, who, who talked very openly about this. In fact, you can still watch it now because it blows my
mind that this was, it was the Atlantic magazine. And the conversation was, should
[0:57:51] Rebecca Hargraves
you use leave Europe and Leon Vice Lighter was one of, one of the speakers. Um, and, uh, do you
know what he said, right? And in the course of that stream, uh, the last question was,
[0:58:03] Dave Reilly
what should the last two do before he made Europe? And he said, yeah, he said, this was radicalizing
moment. This is the time. This is the point that I've told you about this before because Millennial was
sent this to me in 2016. And I became a turbo anti-Semite after I decided. Well, I mean, I, I remember it
too. And what was, what was stunning about that is, is I also happened to have seen him in a different
context when he was talking to a French nationalist
[0:58:34] Rebecca Hargraves
and basically berating her for not being a liberal. And then he went on that stream and when he was
like, and he was literally, you know, as s no narcissistic, as you can imagine. But anyway, there's a
serious point here, which is that, um, you know, he said, well, they've always made vertical
relationships with power, okay? But when you look at every time the things have gone wrong,
[0:59:01] Dave Reilly
it is because of an un, an un principled exception or a schmicky in exception, if you want to prove
[0:59:08] Rebecca Hargraves
that way, that is made specifically for them, like a special privilege. IE, there's one law that applies to
everybody else and a different law that applies to them, okay? And, and this, as I have it, I'm getting
people's backs up and it starts to piss people off. And it's actually when
[0:59:28] Dave Reilly
you start to look into expulsions in history, this is, this is what has happened, okay? I would, I was
[0:59:34] Rebecca Hargraves
reading about Stalin, I've been into Stalin the past few months and actually finding out that some
[0:59:41] Dave Reilly
of the things that we think about Stalin may not be true. A lot of the things we think about Stalin came
from Trotsky, right? You went to New York. But if you have a look at what happened in the
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[0:59:53] Rebecca Hargraves
Soviet Union, same issue started occurring. Of course, under communism, everybody has to be the
same,
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everybody's a comrade, it's all about equality, it's all about everybody being the same. But
[1:00:07] Rebecca Hargraves
special carve out, special privileges, special, and of course, Stalin being a true, true socialist to
communist, he was like, well, I can't have this, you know? So, when it comes to, somebody like Jeffrey
Sachs, and when it comes to this current split that we have between hardcore Zionists, rights and
people like Max Blumenthal, Dave Smith and Jeffrey Sachs, I actually think it would be a mistake not to
kind of ally with them at this moment, because the world that they are trying to move towards, right?
The world of Dave Smith and Jeffrey Sachs and Blumenthal is a world where this
[1:00:52] Dave Reilly
special carve out, right? If you think about what they're actually talking about, they're talking about a
system where they have to follow the same rules as everybody else, which has never actually been
achieved in any of these other systems. Whereas Zionists want this world where we all like to live in
gay world, right? They get to live in whatever it is that Israel is at the moment, okay? And everybody
notices, hold on a second, you guys are like insane religious, fanatic old ethno-nationalists over here,
and we all have to live by a different set of rules over here. So what I'm saying is, at this moment, I think
it's, I mean, you know, the most realistic thing to do aim for, is a world where finally,
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if I put this, they kind of just join everybody else not having the special could just be the same as
everyone else, right? No. No, no, of course not. If I had a quarter for every time I trusted a Jew and they
reverted to type, even Max Blumenthal has done it on numerous occasions. I consistently regret
trusting Jews even if they're singing my tune because they always fail me, they always fail me.
[1:02:09] Dave Reilly
I think that we should have a strict no-Jews policy under any circumstances. Well, I think when it comes
to power and like elected office and like being representatives, yeah, I would agree with that, but at the
same time, I do think it is, it is infuriating to Zionists to tweet out a video of Jeffrey Sachs, basically
saying all the exact same things that we say. Like it is, it is helpful rhetorically for the argument, but then
like we're not going to make Jeffrey Sachs president. Yes, but this is what we did with Candace Owens.
We allowed her in the movement because we were like, all right, she's going to shift the overgin window
in our favor and
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then she takes over this sector of the right with her slot pedaling and this is what these Jews are
[1:02:53] Dave Reilly
going to do. They're going to come into the movement with things that we find appealing that we agree
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with and then once they have powered, they will revert to type and undo everything. We have to be
more staunch here about our standards for people that have opinions that everybody's listening to.
[1:03:07] Dave Reilly
Well, there is something that I was kind of wondering about. I was on the phone actually with the Sam
Parker last night for about an hour and we were kind of wondering out loud and talking about the idea of
like, okay, so what if Tucker Carlson is actually backed by Yesha Teed? Do you know it? Yesha Teed,
it's the number two party in Israel when it comes to elected representation in the Knesset. They are
definitely like center left. They are opposed to the Netanyahu regime. So it is kind of interesting to
wonder about that. So is Yesha Teed perhaps backing these types of people like Jeffrey Sachs and
Tucker Carlson, maybe even Candace Owens? It's a pressure release valve because they have to
address these problems. No, they want BB Netanyahu out and they want Yaya Lapid in. Right, but they
also want to normalize seemingly the center right Jewish opinions. I'm not interested in that. Yeah, I
don't know. I'm throwing it out there. I don't think I've ever heard anybody in remotely alleged that an
association but go ahead.
[1:04:14] Rebecca Hargraves
I guess what I guess what I'm saying is, okay, all right, you may have a menu of stuff you'd want a
preference scale on a brother that way, okay. But there's quite a reality gap between where you are
now and utopian-based world, whatever that would look like. And what I'm saying is as a kind of a
[1:04:40] Dave Reilly
medium short to medium term goal, wouldn't it be, wouldn't it, you know, a first step towards that
[1:04:48] Rebecca Hargraves
just to be to end the unprincipled exception, the carve out, right, as a kind of realistic achievable goal for
the here and now, ending that special carve out. So if Israelis to continue
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to exist, it doesn't exist as this kind of insane, kind of war-mongering imperial project, whatever it is, it
just becomes another country like Belgium or something, you know, which has the same rules,
[1:05:25] Rebecca Hargraves
same norms, etc. And also within American politics, you don't get this special carve out for a perk
[1:05:34] Dave Reilly
and so on. They also have to be just the same as every other group, just stop the exception.
[1:05:42] Rebecca Hargraves
And I think that is actually from where we are right now, an achievable short-term goal. What happens
after that? You can then debate, like let's just try to do that one bit. I know that Rebecca, you're more
maximalist, you want to go further, but-
[1:05:57] Dave Reilly
Well, I just don't believe that Jews can do that because Israel is a Jewish state and they believe more
fervently than any other religion that their gods chosen people and they hate Gentiles.
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I don't think- I think that the carve out instead of eliminating one, you would create one
[1:06:13] Dave Reilly
where supposed right-wing Jews could be subversive. There is no world in which Israel will accept the
terms of other nations where they'll want to be like other nations or, you know, except if we put
restrictions on them, it's never going to happen. They believe their gods chosen people, they believe
that we are subhuman, they will never do this. Well, I think that the issue is that if we were able to cut
out the carve out that they currently have, if we were able to restrain APAC, you know, and fix the
counterintelligence problem that we have in the country to the religious Zionists and the people in
Likud, they view that as an existential threat in and of itself and so they would begin to counteract that
to a point that would bring about the end of the state of Israel itself. You see what I'm saying? Because
they think it is an existential problem, they would never allow that to happen. So I guess I'm saying- I
agree with what academic agent is saying and is, you know, suggesting that we would shoot for, but I
think that in doing that, it would cause a reaction from the Zionists that would inevitably undo their own
thing altogether. But what about the concept that is so innate to Jews of Jewish spiritual supremacy?
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying is- But there's no one doing that. No. So it's not about the state of
Israel. No. It's about the Jewish nation.
[1:07:51] Rebecca Hargraves
Just imagine for a second though, you put Max Blumenthal, Jeffrey Sykes and Dave Smith in charge of
[1:07:58] Dave Reilly
Israel, it would be a lot more of an normal country than it is under Netanyahu as an example.
[1:08:04] Rebecca Hargraves
Because you- so there is a kind of, you know, maybe you see the thing is, if this exception is
[1:08:12] Dave Reilly
ended, the one that I'm talking about, it may be such an existential problem, not only for Israel,
[1:08:19] Rebecca Hargraves
but for power structure that is built up in America itself. But it would almost be like a kind of
[1:08:25] Dave Reilly
mini-revolution or something in how things have worked, right? Now, then we've got another problem,
because I always say there are two- there are two problems, right? One is that- one is this Zionist thing
we've all been talking about recently. The other one is the other thing we were talking
[1:08:43] Rebecca Hargraves
about, Tony Blair and Digital ID and the globalists, the Davos lot, the people with those dark, you know,
the people with the dark, globalist plans, and that's a different issue, I think. But so I
[1:08:58] Dave Reilly
think about this in a very different way from a lot of people, because once you study this question and
these people that you're talking about, you realize that it always comes down to this
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[1:09:13] Rebecca Hargraves
Harvard, okay? Well, when you think about that, that is quite petty in a way. If your ambition is always to
get this little bit of special privilege for yourself, that's quite a small goal. Whereas the globalist issue,
like a man like Tony Blair or Clash Schwab or any of the Bill Gates,
[1:09:35] Dave Reilly
right, this is a more distinctly European problem. Oswald Spengler calls it
[1:09:42] Rebecca Hargraves
Persianism, right? This idea that everybody has to live by all of the same rules,
[1:09:48] Dave Reilly
everywhere, everywhere in the world, has to be the same way. And Spengler argued that this is
something that is intrinsic to Europeans, this Persianism, this kind of love of an abstract ideal, whether
it was, you know, back in the days of Gregory VII and Crusade and things like that, or now in today's
form, it comes out as globalism and values and all this sort of stuff.
[1:10:18] Rebecca Hargraves
That's a separate fight. But we can't really have that fight until we deal with it. Like a lot of
[1:10:24] Dave Reilly
people in the current moment think, you can use a Zionist to bring down the globalists. No. I think it has
to be the other way, right? Like the Zionists are an issue, but it's almost like a kind of sub-boss, and
then the globalists are the end-boss. If that makes any sense. No, I understand what you're saying.
Using the globalists to dismantle the Zionists and then once they're gone, then, you know, getting
globalism. But then you may have the same issue with globalism. We don't know. It's kind of, but that
definitely does seem to be where things are going, right? I mean, you look at France, you look at Spain,
you look at a lot of these European countries, they're recognizing Palestine, they're cutting off arms
shipments to Israel. And so it does seem like the globalists in Europe are anti-Israel and they're kind of
winning right now. In the current moment, for example, you meant like we, like you, the rightist is meant
to hate Greta Thunberg. You meant to hate Greta Thunberg because she's an evil leftist. At this
moment,
[1:11:28] Rebecca Hargraves
I think it's good to just get behind Greta. She's actually, Greta Thunberg is actually doing the
[1:11:34] Dave Reilly
true Palestinian, European thing. She's like a modern crusader going over there, bringing values to an
unprincipled Middle Eastern tribe in a classic European way. And you see that this is it because by
doing that, you deny there the frame that they want, the frame that the modern incarnation of TPUSA
want you to be like, oh, you know, say whatever it is, but at least they took out Greta Thunberg and
whatever, like I see people make those sort of jokes. Just deny their frames whenever you can. And if it
means in the short term, having to do stuff like that, that's fine
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because like in my view, this current moment, the situation as it is right now, they've never been
[1:12:24] Dave Reilly
more unpopular. They've never been. So all I should just be on, make any alliances you can,
[1:12:29] Rebecca Hargraves
whether it's Dave Smith or Jeffrey Sachs or whatever, tell that problem is dealt with. And then,
[1:12:34] Dave Reilly
once that's dealt with, we can go back to, you know, I agree. I tend to agree with them. I think so. We
have a few more super chats here to get to. Book track groups and $10 on rumble. Academic agent
have the British people been able to build families. It seems British people has to meet in secret like
home churches, hire more euros, blonde to bring to America. While I mean, just like a country, the
marriage is declined and birth rate has been going down. But it's not, it's not that people like
[1:13:18] Rebecca Hargraves
the real thing behind that is just women in work. Women are encouraged to go to university, get a
corporate job. And they're not actually, people don't start families until they're in their 30s. That's the,
that's the total trouble back in the day. People would have kids when they were 20. I mean,
[1:13:38] Dave Reilly
I remember being 18 and some, like it was really taboo when I was growing up to be like a teenage
mother with like a massive group put on it. And it was just like, oh, what? You have to keep
[1:13:51] Rebecca Hargraves
wrecking your life and all this or a stuff. But now, of course, people are starting families way too late.
Then they can only have one or two kids. And, you know, it comes with other issues. It's increased
[1:14:04] Dave Reilly
chance at miscarriage when you're older. All of these things, I'm sure, your audience know about, that's
that's really the, that's really the issue. It's, it's women in work, women in work in their
[1:14:15] Rebecca Hargraves
most fertile years. Of course. And of course, then, there's, I mean, this is a huge problem,
[1:14:23] Dave Reilly
not just for Britain, but for every country. Women who reach 40, they slab-nade kids, they're not
married,
[1:14:30] Rebecca Hargraves
they're working as a journalist or something. And then they have to kind of justify it like they have to
come up with copes. Actually, I'm really happy. I've married myself to all this sort of stuff.
[1:14:41] Dave Reilly
You know it's a cop, right? But it's still then sold and younger people read it. So it's a self,
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[1:14:47] Rebecca Hargraves
it's a self perpetuating problem. And I honestly don't know what the answer is, answer to it is,
[1:14:54] Dave Reilly
because then there's a imbalance you can get below replacement birth rate. And that drives mass
immigration, of course, because then the people like Elon Musk and capitalist, oh, hold on a second,
the line's going to go down. We need more people. And then governments will like, well, okay, let's
bring in another six million, ten million people. Of course. It's a disaster, really, the disaster. Was that
the last one? No, sorry, I was looking at my phone and I shouldn't have been looking at my phone. I
should be heading the game. Cage, motion, Jero, how do I say this? I don't know, I took my glasses off.
Kagi, motion, Jero. Man, can you guys come up with some normal news or names? Help Dave out,
please. Like, you know, I don't know, I was just trying to launch mommy, milkers, moms, mommy,
milkers. There's a good name. Anyway, Cage, motion, Jero sent $10 on rumble. Glad to see you've
been following up on CRS academic agent. Looks like that has now ended. Any independent Zionist
free organization would need severe internal screening to be viable. Yeah, what he's talking about here
is this community relation service. This was a group I believe they were even deployed after
Charlotte'sville. This was like a federal group that would go around to a town where like if folks say a
black guy stabs a white woman in the neck, CRS would be deployed to hold rallies and counseling to
try and make sure that white people didn't get pissed off. And this has been defunded. This has been
defunded according to the document. Was this deployed after Austin Metcalfe? No, this was deployed
like in the 1960s. Oh, I thought that there was some sort
[1:16:36] Rebecca Hargraves
of nonprofit organization that was going around for the Austin Metcalfe and similar situations,
[1:16:41] Dave Reilly
Molly Tibbitt's giving the family talking points. Yeah, that might have been this. I do remember
community relation service was involved with Charlotte'sville and the wake that followed from that, but
maybe academic agent news more. Yeah, the reason he's brought that up is because I made a video
[1:16:57] Rebecca Hargraves
on it. And then after making that video, I went on our own McIntyre show and there was a, you know,
[1:17:04] Dave Reilly
we were able, we and some of my buddies in America were able to get it on the radar of people
[1:17:11] Rebecca Hargraves
like Rufo and the Trump administration and so on. So in a weird way, we kind of made it happen.
[1:17:17] Dave Reilly
Based on how I was pleased with that because it means like, you know, at least they haven't wasted
the past 10 years, at least I got rid of that scumbag service. And I tell you why, if you read the book that
it was actually written by two of the original guys who were part of it. And before you ask, yes, every
single one of them was. But I mean, it's like honestly, the entire history of civil rights
[1:17:44] Rebecca Hargraves
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is closely man-managed. They let nothing to chance at all. Yes, basically ensuring that the
African-American
[1:17:53] Dave Reilly
community stayed on the Martin Luther King reservation and never went Malcolm X basically. Right.
[1:18:00] Rebecca Hargraves
And then of course, but then, but also covering up crimes that against white people and many,
[1:18:07] Dave Reilly
many other things that they do as well. Yeah. And of course, when Martin Luther King started the signal
that he himself was going to be leaving the reservation. And I guess recognizing the the struggle for
Palestinian rights. What happened? Well, he got shot by a lone wolf shooter that's, you know, a very
reminiscent of what happened to Charlie Kirk, which is NJFK and RFK and all these weird lone wolf
shooters. It just happened to pop up. And, you know, that was another thing Sam and I were talking
about too is like, you know, it's, I don't think Israel killed Charlie. But when you look at it from different
lenses, like for sure, the, the angle of like Israel killed Charlie Kirk because he was about to break off
and do his own thing. No. That, that obviously is disproven. I think at this point, like that angle of it. But
when you do look at what was Charlie Kirk doing, he had a strong centralized outfit that he operated as
a kingmaker. People that wanted to run for office needed to go through Charlie, right? And that's not
true anymore. It didn't bribe Lin or
[1:19:14] Rebecca Hargraves
whatever that homo's name is. Just show up to a bunch of turning point events. Yeah, he got annoying
himself. Yeah, he got brought in. I don't know. I'm starting to think the TV USA was not the influential
network that it's been. Do you know anybody that's been seriously when you compare it to
[1:19:33] Dave Reilly
the other organizations that are on the ground, like college Republicans or the young Republicans,
there were more chapters of TPUSA, more members of TPUSA. The budget was 50 times bigger. It
was, you know, a hefty organization. I don't know. I just don't have the intellectual energy to just get so
post about it. No, I know, I know. We should bring Sam on. He lays it out well. Okay, we got a couple
more. Ten dollars in up. I know. What is this? I already pressed the button.
[1:20:04] Rebecca Hargraves
I have the night because we, I remember I saw it. I know, I know. Okay.
[1:20:09] Dave Reilly
Aiden Paladin is premiering on YouTube. How hard times make strong men? The Thrivers, Willard
hypothesis blonde. You would like this data. That's your homework for the week.
[1:20:19] Rebecca Hargraves
Aiden Paladin is excellent. She is an excellent female YouTuber. There, I said something. No e-girls.
Never. Listen, I know I said all those things about Jews just a minute, but if we're going
[1:20:34] Dave Reilly
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to make exceptions for women, she is one of them. Okay. We're making exceptions for women now on
[1:20:40] Rebecca Hargraves
this podcast. You guys were just talking about making exceptions for Jews. I think we can make a few
[1:20:45] Dave Reilly
exceptions for women. Okay. Haven't helped us. Kage Mushinjuro, go ahead. I think Aiden Paladin, I
mean, I met a couple of times. I think she's pretty severely autistic, which helps. That's great. Yeah.
Yeah. Women that are autistic, not bad. My wife, a little autistic, a little on the spectrum. She's great. I'm
ADD, so it works together. Autism plus ADD equals superpowers. Kage Mushinjuro sent $10. How do
you think bricks comes into play in the Western economic policies of the future using blockchain allows
Eastern countries to separate from Western dependency, or are they forever dependent also? Is that a
question to me? Yes. Apparently. I believe so. Was it about crypto? Was it or? It was about bricks and
how do you think bricks comes into play in the Western economic policies of the future using blockchain
allows Eastern countries to separate from Western dependency, or are they forever dependent also?
No, I think that if it gets going, they'll come a moment where America is not able to keep the dollar
supremacy going. That's an
[1:21:57] Rebecca Hargraves
error at some point in the future. I mean, unless you believe the American Empire will last forever. That
day will come at some point. It will probably come sooner.
[1:22:13] Dave Reilly
If America doesn't cut off Israel soon, I think America is torturing its credibility, its moral legitimacy, and
everything else in the eyes of not just the world,
[1:22:24] Rebecca Hargraves
but its own people for Israel. It's a crisis point, and if Trump won't do it, maybe the next president will.
But that point is going to come. I think we're toast. I think we're there. Gavin Newsom
[1:22:40] Dave Reilly
save us. Get out of here. Yeah, really. He's the face of Satan. I understand this is a mean, but he looks
like the Joker. He does. He looks like the Joker. Beautiful white family. Thunderstorm $9.10. Can and I
didn't fight their enemies. They kill them. They use the tactic. Arma, instead of fighting, they disguise
and infiltrate. We Europeans have to stop projecting our sensibilities onto others. This is a problem that
we have, particularly libertarians. We have to accept the reality of the people that surround us. I was
talking to my friend the other day,
[1:23:17] Rebecca Hargraves
how I have a seething hatred of certain groups. He's like, that's so pointless. You need to accept certain
groups as though they're animals that are just doing what their biological imperative is. You need to
think more logically about this because you're making emotional decisions based upon your hatred.
Just be like, this group of people acts this way. They're destined to always
[1:23:38] Dave Reilly
act this way and look at it unemotionally. That is helping me change my perspective a little bit because I
am governed by hatred. Yeah, you should work on that. Should I, though? Yeah. It's my armor.
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[1:23:51] Rebecca Hargraves
No. I can't remember who it was though. I was watching recently, but they said something like, look,
you've got to stop thinking that, oh, they wouldn't do that, surely. You wouldn't do that. Right. They
might. They might. That is a difficulty because a lot of the times,
[1:24:19] Dave Reilly
I put it like, just a sheer goal. Just a sheer like, oh, I can't believe they've gone there, type of thing.
Because it just wouldn't even occur to most normal people.
[1:24:33] Rebecca Hargraves
I'm not necessarily only just talking about them either. A lot of the white people,
[1:24:45] Dave Reilly
America, and European, British, in power are psychos. A lot of people who find themselves in positions
of power now aren't normal. They don't have a normal moral compass. So they're prepared to do things
in good to go places, but most people wouldn't. And it's kind of like, you know, it can get the mind
boggling at levels of evil is what I'm saying. But you cannot apply,
[1:25:11] Rebecca Hargraves
when you're studying power, you can't apply like a normal morality to it at all.
[1:25:17] Dave Reilly
Yeah. No, I agree. I mean, they're literally talking about openly nuking Israel. Jonathan Pollard,
specifically, we talked about this in the show last night, openly talking about nuking their neighbors as
they are starving the gods and children and the women and the civilians. They're out there calling, you
know, altar boys at the local Catholic church terrorists. So yeah, these people, they have no limits. They
have no moral, nothing stopping them from doing whatever we might consider heinous. And it is
important because it's real. And I do feel like a lot of, you know, we watch a lot of content online, you
know, blood sports, e internet. And we do kind of forget that like there are just people out there that will
just kill you. Yeah. And that's kind of like, where we're at. That is where we're at. I do, I do, I mean,
again, I don't want to sound like a cut here. All right. But I do think, I do think that because I mean, there
was a lot of talk of
[1:26:11] Rebecca Hargraves
Erica Kirk and forgiveness and being strong in Jesus and things like that, right recently.
[1:26:17] Dave Reilly
I do think it is dangerous to be too, too overly focused on your own kind of feelings of, hatred, you want
to put it that way. Or like, if you're completely consumed with wanting to destroy the enemy, right? In a
weird way, you give that enemy power, right? Because what you focus
[1:26:45] Rebecca Hargraves
on, you give power to, right? I don't want to sound like kind of woo or something, but there's, there is a,
there is a kind of esoteric truth to this. And I've had to learn it over many years.
[1:26:56] Dave Reilly
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If you let, because, you know, what, if you've been doing this long enough, you'll have people who
belong you, you'll have people who betray you, you'll have people who, you know, have been docks
and all sorts of bad things that may happen to you. You can get these
[1:27:09] Rebecca Hargraves
feelings of revenge and these feelings of hatred and all these sorts of things. If you let those
[1:27:17] Dave Reilly
consume you in a, in a weird way, you'll give it, you're giving those people power. Yes. So there is a, so
there is a, there is a strength in being able to just let it go or just say, like,
[1:27:31] Rebecca Hargraves
actually, you don't have that power over me. I am in control of that. You know, and this is why I always
tell people to read Julius Evela, right? Because especially if they're not Christian, right?
[1:27:44] Dave Reilly
You can, you can get this strength through faith or through the Bible or something like that. But if you
want an orientation, Evela is a good person to get a start in how to just be stoked, like how to find that in
a strength and stoicism and sense of control and peace. But hatred is so highly motivating and
retribution is cathartic. It feels so good to get revenge on people. Yeah, yeah. I mean, what I'm saying is
that it can kind of, it takes your soul,
[1:28:28] Rebecca Hargraves
peace, meal, I understand what you're saying. Yeah. I mean, again, maybe Evela won't be that good for
you though, because you're a woman. Yeah. And that is true. I don't know. I don't know that I
[1:28:40] Dave Reilly
even, it's like a leopard changing in spots. I'm not sure that I could even turn into a stoic person. If you
stare into the abyss, the abyss will stare into you. It's pretty close to what he said. Something to that
effect. Recusings and $15 AA for the British English anti-globalist movement to succeed. Does it need
to separate itself from US politics? It seems to me that the lessons learned from US politics don't apply
in Britain. And attention is a diversion that acts like
[1:29:09] Rebecca Hargraves
containment. Yeah. I mean, I've been saying for years that people have to de-americanize the
Americanized their brains, their thinking. Again, Evela is a good start because if you understand
[1:29:26] Dave Reilly
what he's saying, America as a nation founded exactly on the opposite of European tradition.
[1:29:34] Rebecca Hargraves
But better or for worse, that is what it is. And it's going to lead to all the things that we've
[1:29:41] Dave Reilly
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seen. Liberalism and relaxation of social value and all these sorts of things. I know a lot of people
disagree with this, but my view is that it's going to like Americanism as an ideology is inherently radical
and anti-traditional, anti-European tradition in particular. And if you have a look at what's
[1:30:10] Rebecca Hargraves
happened since we've all come under the American Empire, they try to make every nation a kind of
miniature version of itself, like a propositional nation that is found built on immigrants and all this
[1:30:23] Dave Reilly
were stuff like the same lies. I mean, these things are necessarily true of America, but this is what
[1:30:29] Rebecca Hargraves
America has become for one reason or another. And now it's rolled out. And so every other country has
[1:30:36] Dave Reilly
have it share of race problems and all the rest of it. So yeah, I do think that the best thing anybody can
do, whether they're America or not, is to de-americanize their mind. And by that, I mean, getting rid of
absolute poison, like libertarianism, for example. Indeed. Like a tiny idea that you can find order through
anarchy. Yeah, you find order through order. I would also I would suggest also that light switch brain is
something that needs to be removed from people's brains because we're seeing that on with what's
going on now with like this whole Palestine thing. I don't know what you're talking about. Light switch
brain? Oh, it's like often on thinking or black and white thinking. Black and white. But it's basically just
like, you know, I don't know, I don't even know what a, okay, so like a form of light switch brain thinking
is like, okay, you're a Democrat, you're for abortion. Therefore, I'm going to go vote Republican. And so
then you vote for the Zionist as opposed to the anti-Zionist. So they take these polarizing issues and
then make it on or off. So just a lack of nuance and thinking. There's no way to get any kind of nuance
and thinking or it's like, you know, yeah, the Palestinian, pro-Palestinian people, their communists,
therefore, they're bad, whatever. Yeah, light switch brain thinking can be very problematic. And I think
that's like a uniquely American thing that has happened. And I've seen it introduced in European
politics. That was Arthur Finkelstein that came up with light switch brain thinking for the Ronald Reagan
campaign in the 1980s. Anywho, I think we have one last super chat. I lied. We do. We do. Never mind.
Soger City's in five dollars on entropy. Can we talk about Alex Criner's hypothesis, which is that the city
of London and the old British Empire is just ahead of LGDO and America as the most insidious power.
Israel is a US puppet, etc. Alex Criner just steeped. Absolutely. I mean, I did a whole stream with my
buddy Horus looking at that. I mean, come on. Yeah. It's just rubbish. Yeah. Well, I think that does
[1:32:59] Rebecca Hargraves
wrap it up for superchance. Mr. Academic Agent, where can people find you? I take it back. We just got
one.
[1:33:05] Dave Reilly
Okay. Son of a bitch. They do this. They like to do this. They like to, like, this is from rip trickle in. Our
congress trader. Our congress trader. 10 dollars before you presume to stand in defense of our faith,
you should marshal your arguments and do it in the justice that God demands. Exactly the same
comment that Ryan Hart made. He might be talking to me because I'm basically a Catholic in name
only. Yeah. You ganged up on me with the I did it for for a really good reason. And that's that it was
very funny. I don't want to argue with spiritual retards. If they want to believe something, ask and I like
Jesus didn't exist. I disagree with them there. Yeah. Okay. On mass is pertaining to Catholicism. I refer
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to the Pope.
[1:33:57] Rebecca Hargraves
I accept his thoughts. I think he says he's Catholicism.
[1:34:04] Dave Reilly
Here I hold on. I'm pulling up your YouTube accounts now. By the way, you see, he blessed ISE
yesterday. So immigration and custom enforcement is going to be hitting the streets harder than ever
rounding up illegals. The Pope did something. Look at that. He blessed ISE. Academic Agent, where
can people
[1:34:22] Rebecca Hargraves
find you? So I'm on YouTube Academic Agent. I'm on Twitter as well as you saw I'm on Substack and
[1:34:33] Dave Reilly
the my own name, which is Neymar Farveen. You can find me on Substack now. I recently joined my
name
[1:34:38] Rebecca Hargraves
on there. I have a I have a course where I have a site where I sell courses called the Academic Agency.
There's a sale on at the moment. Shredder. Shredder. Shredder. It gets you 25 percent off because I'm
obsessed with compost at the moment. You got to get that fast for us. So compost.
[1:34:58] Dave Reilly
It's gone 40 degrees. I need to get up to 60 degrees. So I'll see us that. I know you guys use
[1:35:03] Rebecca Hargraves
Fahrenheit. 60 as it says. Kind of chilly. I don't know. Thank you so much for joining us. That
[1:35:08] Dave Reilly
was a great discussion. We really appreciate it. Cheers guys. Cheers. Amazing. Amazing. Let's do a
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[1:35:17] Rebecca Hargraves
Yes. Shredder. promo code. Shredder. Shredder. Shredder. That's sad.
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[1:37:27] Rebecca Hargraves
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[1:38:50] Rebecca Hargraves
American. What, that we don't have? Yeah, we could sound so posh and area dyed, and instead we
[1:38:56] Dave Reilly
all sound like hicks. That's very anti-white of you. I don't know how to tell you. A woman with a jersey
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[1:39:24] Rebecca Hargraves
I love it. Absolutely not. Southern accents, like wise make people. If you don't sound like
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[1:39:29] Dave Reilly
Shelby foot, you sound like you're retarded. I don't like Southern accents. Yeah, they're they're no
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[1:41:32] Rebecca Hargraves
tear. I don't want to talk about it. No, no, no.
[1:41:34] Dave Reilly
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[1:42:45] Rebecca Hargraves
products. So we did the best that we could, which is get products that we actually believe in. True. So I
am sorry, but it's just impossible to run a podcast without doing it these days.
[1:42:54] Dave Reilly
Listen, we're going to, if you don't start sending more super chats, we're going to pick up a sponsorship
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Absolutely not.
[1:43:06] Rebecca Hargraves
I saw Dana, Dana Lash doing one with superbeats.
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[1:43:11] Dave Reilly
Yes, she looks unrecognizable, by the way. By the way, do you see Candice Owens has like a, some
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[1:43:28] Rebecca Hargraves
Oh, God.
[1:43:30] Dave Reilly
We are never going to go anywhere mainstream, you and I, it's over.
[1:43:33] Rebecca Hargraves
It's over. It's over.
[1:43:35] Dave Reilly
We love you guys. Have you seen these Terminator clips? Thank you. No, we got to get out of here,
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whole series of Charlie. Yes. I heard about it.
[1:43:48] Cameron M
I haven't seen them. Terminator Slop clips. This is so funny. That's why 98% of Wiggers are white.
[1:43:54] Rebecca Hargraves
What's up? You made a sniper. Where does the sniper sit? On the roofs. Buy all the roofs. Kill the
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[1:44:11] Cameron M
We got a problem.
[1:44:12] Rebecca Hargraves
Don't worry about it, Pookie. Two Wigger missiles are on root. That's why. Despite my attempts to not
make this a Slop show, it happens.
[1:44:27] Dave Reilly
They have like a whole series of these things.
[1:44:31] Rebecca Hargraves
I'm not watching any more of these. Oh, for heaven's sake.
[1:44:33] Dave Reilly
There's like a mini series. It's so funny.
[1:44:35] Rebecca Hargraves
Well, this is a proper application of AI.
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[1:44:37] Dave Reilly
I will say that. I do agree. Thank you guys.
[1:44:40] Rebecca Hargraves
Follow us on xatrealbacklash. Find all of our links at the backlash.net.
[1:44:43] Dave Reilly
We will see you on Monday with. Oh, yeah. Good. Ron Paul Institute guy.
[1:44:52] Rebecca Hargraves
Ron Paul Institute guy.
[1:44:54] Dave Reilly
Wow. This is awful. You put me on the spot. Daniel McAdams. From the Ron Paul Institute. We'll be
joining.
[1:45:01] Rebecca Hargraves
Thank you so much.
[1:45:02] Dave Reilly
We'll see you on Monday. Bye bye.