Episode 86— Ireland Erupts, Ben Shapiro Breaks, & Venezuela Goes to War — Live w/ I, Hypocrite

Episode 86 Episode 86 — Ireland Erupts iHypocrite Episode 86 Episode 86— Ireland Erupts, Ben Shapiro Breaks, & Venezuela Goes to War — Live w_ I, Hypocrite.mp4 [0:02:38] Rebecca Hargraves Welcome to the backlash, a weekly discussion about America's awakening. I am your host, Rebecca Hargraves. Join us always by Mr. Dave Riley. How are you doing, Dave? [0:02:46] Dave Reilly I'm doing great. How are you? [0:02:47] Rebecca Hargraves I'm good. It's actually not. It's been crazy. Yeah. I'm not doing well either. I don't know why I said that. [0:02:52] Dave Reilly My kid cut her toe. Oh, I felt really bad. No, it was all thrown all over the place. [0:02:57] Rebecca Hargraves And now we're here. So we're happy to be here. How are you? [0:03:01] Dave Reilly Cameron McGregor. Good evening to one and all. And with a special guest in studio, Internet OG, L.P. Mr. I have a crit. How are you doing? Hello, everyone. Pleasure to be here. Crazy, right? He's huge. Look at this. He's massive. [0:03:19] Rebecca Hargraves I've met a lot of people from the Internet in real life. They're always shorter and fatter. [0:03:24] Dave Reilly But he is taller and skinnier than I expected. That's anything is so nice. People keep telling me I'm fat [0:03:30] Rebecca Hargraves in my comments and I know we were just talking shit on our [0:03:33] Dave Reilly audiences. And I would hate all of you. No, no, just some of you. [0:03:38] Rebecca Hargraves You can find us on X at real backlash. Our website, the backlash.net support us on subscribestar.com slash the backlash patreon.com slash the backlash will come with some [0:03:48] Dave Reilly exclusives. They're pretty soon. [0:03:50] Rebecca Hargraves Episode 86 You can super chat at the backlash.net slash super chat. Also on my YouTube channel, shocking. Also on the backlash is YouTube channel. [0:03:58] Dave Reilly There's so many ways to send us money. It's amazing. It is amazing. It's just a shame that we're like, you know, poor. Yeah. 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Why don't you, why don't you promote this, um, [0:04:51] Dave Reilly this disruptive meeting you're planning? Oh, yeah. Well, it's not going to be a disruptive meeting. It's just, you know, we had this big interview on Monday with Pacific Northwest gorilla. And I've just been inspired by him. He's been doing all of these like nature hikes and going out camping and getting a community build of people, you know, close by building community. It's a good thing. And so I figured we should do something similar. And so we're going to be hosting a little get together next Monday, this coming Monday, like five o'clock p.m. Five 15 somewhere around there, five, five 15 p.m. At the prairie pavilion here in Cortalena, Idaho, it's a mate, they've got like food trucks. There's like taco trucks and like a pizza stand. You can get like sandwiches and it's a nice little spot. And we can all get together, get a beer, hang out, chill talks. That'll be Monday, this coming Monday at five o'clock. [0:05:51] Rebecca Hargraves Nice. Episode 86 [0:05:52] Dave Reilly Okay. And we'll be there until like, you know, until we're until we leave. [0:05:56] Rebecca Hargraves I'm going against my better judgment. [0:05:57] Dave Reilly It'll be fun. Okay. Please don't murder. Dave does conceal carry. He showed me yesterday. So no funny business, you guys. Drew, hey, hey, what happened to the, uh, the Elton John glasses? I'm kind of disappointed. Did they bully you out of that? [0:06:10] Rebecca Hargraves They didn't, I mean, listen, to Dave's credit, he cannot be bullied [0:06:14] Dave Reilly out of any bad behavior. [0:06:15] Rebecca Hargraves I tried to do it. It's impossible. He's, he's obstinate. [0:06:20] Dave Reilly That is exactly the word defiant. [0:06:22] Rebecca Hargraves Yes, impetuous. [0:06:24] Dave Reilly Yes. That was the word that, uh, a certain bishop said about me. He's like, he's impetuous. That is correct. I'm like, okay, that is one astute motherfucker. No, no, no, not bad. Like Peter. Peter was impetuous. I didn't, I didn't know you have them right there. [0:06:40] Rebecca Hargraves It's, you asked for it. [0:06:44] Dave Reilly You got it, you got it. [0:06:47] Rebecca Hargraves So LP, why don't you give the audience a little bit of intro into your channel? [0:06:51] Dave Reilly If they're unfamiliar with you, tell them what you do. Episode 86 [0:06:53] Rebecca Hargraves You've been around just forever. [0:06:56] Dave Reilly Yeah, I started making content about 10 years ago. I was telling Dave, I was like a pot head atheist liberal, basically grew up in Canada, kind of a typical Canadian. And then started watching Sargon of a Cod videos and got radicalized. Here we are 10 years later, and I'm basically a far-right [0:07:20] Rebecca Hargraves Christo fascist, authoritarian, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, that's how it happens. Based. The alternative influence network was talking about the libertarian to fascist pipeline, and everybody on the right was like, no, that's not real. I'm like, what are you talking about? That 100% is real. [0:07:36] Dave Reilly Absolutely, but you're a libertarian until you realize that they won't leave you alone. Yes. And once that sinks in and you figure that part out, then you become us. [0:07:50] Rebecca Hargraves Yes. [0:07:50] Dave Reilly It do be like that. It do be like that. It do be like that. Yes, yes. [0:07:54] Cameron M What part of Canada are you from? [0:07:57] Rebecca Hargraves I grew up in Swift Current Saskatchewan. [0:08:00] Dave Reilly Saskatchewan. [0:08:01] Rebecca Hargraves We all know exactly where that is. It was like a small town and very boring and everyone drank and smoked pot. [0:08:08] Dave Reilly And it sounds very Canadian. I was expecting your head to be detached from the lower part. Yeah. Like the South Park people. Oh yeah, yeah. But it's attached. Yeah, that part's fake. We do say a booth, though, as it pointed out. A booth we just laughed at you. I don't know what it is about Canadians, the urge to make fun of them. I'm sorry. It just lives within us as Americans. [0:08:30] Rebecca Hargraves Although, you're a mayor. Episode 86 [0:08:31] Dave Reilly I'm a mayor. I'm a mayor. I'm a mayor. This is the first time we've got a dual citizen on the program. Not sure how I feel about it. Guys, we need to send more support to Canada. [0:08:43] Cameron M Yeah, really? [0:08:44] Rebecca Hargraves We have our brothers up there. [0:08:45] Dave Reilly They're not doing so good. I am a Canadian citizen now. [0:08:50] Rebecca Hargraves I got my passports in the mail. [0:08:52] Dave Reilly I just finished the application for that. American citizen. Yeah, yeah, sorry. American citizen. Sorry. [0:08:58] Rebecca Hargraves Sorry. Sorry. [0:09:00] Dave Reilly Never beating the allegations. I know. I know. [0:09:05] Rebecca Hargraves Is it true that you're in Mensa? [0:09:07] Dave Reilly That is true. That is true. [0:09:09] Rebecca Hargraves Well, what is your IQ? [0:09:10] Dave Reilly Exactly 132, which is the bare minimum to get into. [0:09:14] Rebecca Hargraves Wait, I thought it was 145. I thought it was 135. [0:09:16] Dave Reilly Episode 86 No. No, it's 132. I could make it. Yeah. I'm 133. Oh, you couldn't make it. No, you were 133 before you started using drugs. Well, listen, it's been a long time. My neurons have regenerated. It's been like over a decade. No. No, no. No, no. [0:09:34] Rebecca Hargraves I'm permanently retarded from alcoholism. [0:09:36] Dave Reilly So I would imagine that I'm in the 1920s now. [0:09:38] Rebecca Hargraves Well, I've got a lot of friends in there. [0:09:41] Dave Reilly You know Cameron will never tell us if he did get a IQ test. He keeps trying to like blow gas us up. He said, Oh, no, you guys are so smart. [0:09:48] Rebecca Hargraves I don't know. I doubt it. I know what you're doing. But there's no way Cameron's IQ is 140. [0:09:53] Dave Reilly I just don't believe it. [0:09:55] Cameron M Both of you guys are smarter than me. No. [0:09:58] Rebecca Hargraves No question about it. There's just no. There's no doubt. [0:10:01] Dave Reilly Yeah, seriously. [0:10:02] Rebecca Hargraves Press X to doubt. [0:10:03] Cameron M Syntax. Syntax is not IQ. Yeah. [0:10:06] Rebecca Hargraves But you have an excellent memory. That's IQ. [0:10:08] Cameron M Maybe it's a proxy, but you know, but IQ isn't everything, right? True. Obviously, I'm the only one on the group that hasn't done drugs. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Episode 86 [0:10:20] Rebecca Hargraves He's like, Oh, having a high IQ and being good looking and being an international playboy. [0:10:24] Dave Reilly It's not all it's cracked up. It's BS. [0:10:26] Rebecca Hargraves It's not that big of a deal. It's your life. Your lives. [0:10:29] Dave Reilly You Idaho losers. And this guy. [0:10:31] Cameron M Well, I have never claimed that I would rather be an indoor cat like Dave and live in Portland. That is a bridge too far. [0:10:40] Dave Reilly Listen. I got to tell you, it's nice. You can curl up on the couch in the sun. You can. Yeah. Totally. You can get a couple of kids that are jumping up and down on your chest. But they need a scratch on the cat. No. You can't do that. [0:10:52] Cameron M Very few things on this or scare me more than domesticity. [0:10:56] Dave Reilly It's not so bad. I want to thank all of you. Wonderful people that tuned in yesterday. I did a little special show. We did an interview. I did an interview. The Royal Wii. I did an interview with JD Hall. He's an author and a polemicist and he's like a theologian type. It was very well received. I'm very surprised with how much the how much the chat you love to like dump on me all [0:11:20] Rebecca Hargraves the time. [0:11:21] Dave Reilly Well, so it was good. It was nice. Everybody was very proud. So if you could please go and leave some negative comments on the video. That would be much appreciated. It would make me feel better about myself. [0:11:32] Rebecca Hargraves Yeah. Give Dave more self worth. [0:11:35] Dave Reilly Please. Episode 86 [0:11:36] Cameron M If you guys haven't seen that. So I had the privilege of watching it this morning actually. I think it's one of the best videos we've put out on this channel. So if you have not seen that interview, you absolutely need to watch it. I learned a great deal. I thought your guess was excellent today. Yeah. [0:11:53] Dave Reilly Really smart guy knows his stuff. He's been doing that for years. And it was great too because it was, you know, I'm Catholic. He was Protestant. And so for the two of us to be able to get together and speak the same language and kind of deconstruct dispensational Christian Zionism and get to the heart of the matter where it started, why it started, what they believe in how we don't want to put Protestants against the wall anymore. [0:12:15] Rebecca Hargraves No, I want, okay, it's a gradual process. Okay. [0:12:19] Dave Reilly We want the Christian evangelical Zionists to leave that and literally do anything else which is better than that. So if you want to go from evangelical Zionism to like being a Baptist. Cool. [0:12:36] Rebecca Hargraves It's fine. [0:12:37] Dave Reilly You know, this works out much like at least we can agree on like, hey, you know, local issues are important. You know, like who's running for mayor? All these types of things as opposed to like if you don't support the ethno state in Israel and you don't think that like the end times are right now then you're an anti-Semite heretic blob blob. You know, so you know, it's good. I want them to back away from the Zionism. You're a better person than I am. We got to do what we came with what we got. Wait, so you want to kill the Prats? [0:13:06] Rebecca Hargraves Well, I mean, this is why women can't be in charge. If I were in charge, I'd be like, oh, you're Protestant, Jewish, minority, any number of thieves. [0:13:17] Dave Reilly Okay, we got it. [0:13:18] Cameron M We got to wait 10 minutes. [0:13:19] Rebecca Hargraves We got to be streaming for 10 minutes before we start going this up. [0:13:23] Dave Reilly You don't like tears for fears face the wall. Episode 86 [0:13:25] Rebecca Hargraves I would be killing people for arbitrary reasons. [0:13:27] Dave Reilly Tears for fears or de Peshmo would be the litmus to us. Fine. [0:13:31] Rebecca Hargraves Okay. [0:13:32] Dave Reilly Yeah, whatever. [0:13:33] Rebecca Hargraves And if you don't face the wall. Let's get on with the show, folks. [0:13:37] Dave Reilly Very important things to talk about tonight. [0:13:39] Rebecca Hargraves We're going to be talking Matt Walsh. The Ben Shapiro Ireland, DBT shutting down. [0:13:43] Dave Reilly Venezuela. [0:13:44] Rebecca Hargraves Let's get into this Matt Walsh thing. I know this was six days ago. [0:13:47] Dave Reilly I hate it when a big new story breaks six days before the show. Because it seems like it's old news by the time we get to it. [0:13:53] Rebecca Hargraves But I had to talk about this because I think Matt Walsh was speaking to us in Morse code with his blinking. [0:13:58] Dave Reilly It's possible. [0:14:00] Rebecca Hargraves Daily wires Ben Shapiro, whether he realized it or not, [0:14:03] Dave Reilly Episode 86 torches colleagues weird idea that conservatives must unify with the far right on Thursday. Shapiro reacted to a bombshell political story, political story. [0:14:11] Rebecca Hargraves And he said, if you put that stuff online, if you put that stuff in chats, if you actually authentically think that stuff, first of all, you're wrong. But second of all, if you put that stuff online, [0:14:21] Dave Reilly there's social consequences to saying and believing truly terrible things. [0:14:25] Rebecca Hargraves We all have social lines drawn all the time. [0:14:27] Dave Reilly But there's this weird idea on the right that the left wins [0:14:30] Rebecca Hargraves because they're totally unified and they're completely siding with one another. The left is not winning. I know we are sort of depressive on the right. [0:14:38] Dave Reilly We've gotten addicted to the depressive. The left is not winning. Donald Trump is present two times. Republicans are in control of the Senate. Republicans are in control of the majority of the governor's mansions. They're in control of the majority of the state legislators. The left is not winning because of their unity. I think that actually we should watch these clips before we talk about Matt Walsh [0:14:58] Rebecca Hargraves saying he doesn't want to punch right. [0:15:00] Dave Reilly Let's watch two and then three. Thank you, Dave. Disagreeing with the motivations of the political story, in fact, [0:15:10] Cameron M even on my show today, I talked about the motivations of the political story, which Matt, I agree, are completely scurrilous and designed to distract [0:15:16] Dave Reilly from the sort of violent rhetoric we've seen from the left. But it has led to I think a reactionary response on some parts of the right to say, there should be no policing ever at all. No social consequences should ever attend to things that are said on the right. That it's basically just pure my side versus yours. [0:15:33] Rebecca Hargraves The problem I have is number one, I think that's moral, Episode 86 [0:15:35] Cameron M and number two, I don't think that's pragmatic. [0:15:37] Dave Reilly I don't think that's moral because I think that there are things that get said on the right that are really, really, really ugly and pretending those away doesn't make them go away. I think that they're rising. [0:15:45] Cameron M I think that they're getting more common. [0:15:47] Dave Reilly I know that my death threats from that side are getting more common. [0:15:49] Cameron M I know I have more security because of that and it's not just from the left. [0:15:52] Rebecca Hargraves I have lots of security from the left and I also get lots of security from the right. [0:15:56] Dave Reilly Matt, I think a little bit earlier today you tweeted that kind of your litmus test is the people who are trying to kill you. [0:16:01] Cameron M And I totally got that. I also have that litmus test. [0:16:03] Dave Reilly The difference is that I think that if somebody tries to kill Matt, [0:16:07] Cameron M there's a good shot that it's going to be a leftist. [0:16:09] Dave Reilly If somebody tries to kill me, it's a frickin' agatha Christie novel. I just don't know which direction the bullet is coming from at this point, given the sort of various and sundry radical extremes that exist. I'm not going to say that the right is equivalent to the left in this respect, because I don't think it's been mainstream to nearly the same effect on the right [0:16:26] Cameron M that it has been on the left. But to pretend that it has not infiltrated a lot of very important spaces, [0:16:30] Dave Reilly I think it's sort of whistling past the graveyard. Episode 86 [0:16:32] Rebecca Hargraves Okay, what? What speech is he talking about? He's being so vague. [0:16:35] Dave Reilly Obviously, he's talking exclusively about what he perceives as anti-Semitic speech. [0:16:41] Rebecca Hargraves Let's play a three from 107 onward, please. [0:16:45] Dave Reilly And he's not going to say that, of course. No. From 107 onward. Yeah, this clip was long. Okay. We can do that. Let's see. I thought that what you said, when Charlie died was right. You know, one of Charlie's goals was to keep the movement together. It's obviously something Shady is trying to do. He's trying to keep people in the room together. [0:17:05] Cameron M I totally get it. [0:17:06] Rebecca Hargraves I've talked publicly about the fact that Tucker called me that two days after Charlie was shot and said, like, let's stop fighting. And I said, you know what? That sounds great to me. [0:17:13] Dave Reilly That's fine. I really don't want to be fighting with you, because obviously we have other priorities. [0:17:16] Rebecca Hargraves In fact, I even offered Tucker that we should get on stage together and talk about the things that we agreed with. [0:17:20] Dave Reilly He has got to take me up on that offer. But the bottom line here is that when it comes to where you set limits, limits at some point are going to have to be set. And it seems to me that the move on the right is that because we don't like the left at all, because the left is bad, there must be no limit set. And any attempt to set a limit is somehow firing inside the tent. And what this actually leads to is many of the same people who are firing inside the tent, then turning around and claiming that you're violating the truce. Because I'll tell you what, it's Nick Fuentes, who's attacking Donald Trump on a regular basis. [0:17:47] Rebecca Hargraves It is Alex Jones, who's attacking Donald Trump on a regular basis. I mean, it is Tucker Carlson, who's attacking Donald Trump on a fairly regular basis, actually. [0:17:53] Dave Reilly This is so shifty. [0:17:55] Rebecca Hargraves Episode 86 This is such shifty-jew nonsense to act like he's not talking about anti-semitism. He's talking about people that are going against Donald Trump. [0:18:03] Dave Reilly But that's really what you mean. [0:18:05] Rebecca Hargraves So Matt Walls tweeted this. [0:18:06] Dave Reilly It was obviously a response to Ben Shapiro, but because they so closely work together, [0:18:12] Rebecca Hargraves he's not going to say that. During the gender ideology fight, I made it clear that I would happily align with liberal feminists [0:18:18] Dave Reilly who hate my guts for the purpose of defeating transgenderism. They mostly decline that invitation and turned around and disavowed me instead, which I expected. [0:18:24] Rebecca Hargraves But the invitation was, since Seer, I will work with anyone to defeat an evil. This has always been my stance. [0:18:30] Dave Reilly When it comes to fighting the left and defeating the people who want to kill me and my family and piss on my grave, I will unite with anyone on the right. Even those I don't like, and those who don't like me. If you think this is unprincipled and morally compromised, then you simply don't understand [0:18:43] Rebecca Hargraves how to fight and win a battle, a fractured conservative movement will fail. [0:18:47] Dave Reilly Only a united front can succeed. [0:18:50] Rebecca Hargraves If you reject the invitation, just as the feminists did, that's fine. It's your right. I won't be the first. [0:18:55] Dave Reilly I've reached out my hand and gotten a hearty fuck you in response. [0:18:58] Rebecca Hargraves This doesn't hurt my feelings. That's what I care about. Okay, so he's obviously responding to Ben Shapiro here. But I think that they both have missed the point. Episode 86 [0:19:08] Dave Reilly And Shapiro was right using his high rhetorical IQ in that obviously there are going to be some limits on speech in general. [0:19:16] Rebecca Hargraves But what Matt is saying is that he's not going to disavow the anti-Semitic right. We all know what they're talking about, but they're talking past each other. [0:19:27] Dave Reilly And I think this fell intentionally. Matt is intentionally talking past Shapiro. [0:19:31] Rebecca Hargraves I think this fell struggle for the daily wire, which was already in dire straits. And I cannot imagine if this is what we're seeing pop up on panels. [0:19:39] Dave Reilly Can you imagine what's going on behind the scenes there? I can imagine some very nasally screams coming from the office in the headquarters of daily wire. [0:19:49] Rebecca Hargraves Why are you ladies doing what? [0:19:51] Dave Reilly I know. I know. What do you guys think? Does this mark the end of the daily wire? [0:19:56] Rebecca Hargraves And more broadly, media conglomerates with Jews at the helm who are not addressing anything serious. Hey, LP. [0:20:04] Dave Reilly Oh, I think the elephant in the room here is Fuentez. I'm not maybe not the elephant because Shapiro did mention him, but I think that's the reason Shapiro is so nervous is because they've kept Fuentez away from the table for so long. Why saying he's a troll, child of the Kirk said this. I don't talk to trolls. You know, he's like an anti-Semitic like this. Imagine Matt Walsh and Nick sit down. If you know it, if you watch Nick talk, he's very convincing. Like, he's going to sit there and just say all these things that Matt Walsh will just have to agree with because they're so reasonable. And this is like Ben Shapiro's greatest fear. His like biggest nightmare. It was Charlie Kirk's biggest nightmare while he was alive. You know, like, how do I not do this? And it was easier to do it before Nick's getting invited on Tim Poole and all these other shows. So I do think things are coming to a head. I do think daily wires and trouble. Maybe they're like movie making business can still be profitable. But I think in general, people are getting tired of here listening to people like Shapiro and other people who carry water for those guys. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Cameron, what do you think? [0:21:13] Cameron M Episode 86 You know, it struck me immediately. Well, I guess I should preface by saying I just have an allergic reaction every time I listen to Ben Shapiro talk. [0:21:20] Dave Reilly You and I both, friend. [0:21:23] Cameron M It's just it's truly unimaginable how that man ascended. But I guess it's not he has organized Jewish power behind him. So surprise, surprise. What struck me, I guess, is how relevant these people are. Even the language that they're using. It's very obvious that well, certainly it is to us because we're sort of on the margin of things. And that tends to liberate you, right? You can see things as they are. [0:21:50] Dave Reilly You don't have to exist in some kind of false binary. [0:21:53] Cameron M But their language is so anachronistic. I mean, what was it that Matt Wall said? I will unify with anybody against the evil of transgenderism. Yeah, I think we moved beyond that. We have bigger fish to fry folks. We have a government that's flailing out of control. We have race war unfolding in major streets across the United States. We have the mass mobilization of nationalism across the Western world. So we're just beginning to leave the station here. And I think there's panic. Certainly there is among people like Ben Shapiro because they've lost control. Right? [0:22:30] Dave Reilly We talked about this for months, really since the inception of the program. [0:22:34] Cameron M Basically control monopoly on social media or of the media industrial complex has completely turned over. And so now a lot of the ideas that were taboo, it's not that they're being discussed. It's that they're becoming mainstream and they're gaining political mobilization. And that's only going to accelerate in the next, I would say 90 to 180 days and well beyond that. So they're panicking. They don't really know what to do. And so they're trying to draw lines in the sand. And that's what all people do when things sort of escape them. They're going to lose. They're going to lose. I will say this, Ben Shapiro is right about a couple of things. One is the left is certainly not winning in many ways. They are self-destructive and they are self-immolating. For reasons that we've talked about before. The second thing he's right about is that they were never unified. This is another myth that people on the right, quote unquote, both of you know I don't like that term as it is. It doesn't really mean anything anymore. We are nationalists, right? We want to restore the national identity of white America as the true identity of the country. The rest of this is just a bunch of noise. But you know the bottom line is that the train has left the station. I think they're alarmed. They don't know what to do. And they're trying to stop it. It's too late. [0:23:55] Dave Reilly Yeah. And what do we even do with these people? [0:23:57] Rebecca Hargraves Matt Walsh has spent so much time on the reservation. He's driven so many people into an ideological ditch that if he wants to come over to our side because of public pressures, I kind of feel like the fuck Episode 86 you, dude. Like stay in your own lane. You did this to yourself. [0:24:12] Dave Reilly I mean, I would welcome him. I would welcome him with open arms. You can come on the backlash. [0:24:16] Rebecca Hargraves That's because you're the golden retriever of the dissident right. You're like sure, I'll be friends. You know, fuck that guy. I mean, I don't know. [0:24:25] Dave Reilly My friend enemy distinction, but I don't know. It's just different. Like I just, you know, I try to align with people where I can. You know, you go to army with the war that you got. [0:24:35] Rebecca Hargraves Fuck, scratch that. [0:24:37] Dave Reilly You go to war with the army. There it is. You have not the army you want, right? So that's kind of my mentality behind this thing of like, listen, if Matt Walsh and Tucker Carlson is who we got in the trenches with us, then all right. You know, pass the ammunition brother. But we know because of the way they behave that they're motivated by material endeavors. True. Yeah. And they're getting paid. And you know, what am I supposed to do with somebody like that? Well, use them and then lose them. We can't do that though. [0:25:06] Rebecca Hargraves They're going to get too much power within the movement. [0:25:08] Dave Reilly I don't want these people at the helm. [0:25:10] Rebecca Hargraves I want the scrappy people that are poor that have sacrificed a bunch to be in the movement. That's who I want at the helm. [0:25:16] Dave Reilly Like we can't just let anybody in now. These people are fading away. [0:25:21] Cameron M I think the term I would use to describe them is irrelevant. They just don't matter anymore. Look, we are in a state of becoming. Right. We do not really have a right wing per se in this country. It exists online. [0:25:36] Dave Reilly It's sort of amorphous. [0:25:37] Cameron M Episode 86 It can jeal around the ideas that we talked about on this on this channel all the time. Whether that's race realism or it's the JQ or it's the realization that democratic electoral politics is structurally broken. Those things are beginning to operationalize, but we haven't actually created a real movement yet. That being said, as I've talked about before, you're going to see a categorical shift in personality types. We're going to shift from pluralism, which is the paradigm we've been in since the 1960s, and the same paradigm that Matt Walsh and Ben Shapiro and all the rest of these people are just inside of. Even Tucker Carlson, to some degree, exists inside that paradigm, and we're going to shift, I think, like a light switch, into puritanism, and that will make us more puritanical. In this vein, I would suggest that Lenin's words bear repeating. A party must purge itself to strengthen itself. What we're doing now is we're basically urging people like Matt Walsh and Ben Shapiro and all the rest of these folks who were never really with us to begin with. [0:26:45] Dave Reilly Listen, though, at the same time, let's not forget how this whole conversation got started. The conversation got started with a purge. The purge was Jewish AJC activist Gavin Wax leaking these text messages of these young Republicans to damage their reputations, to ruin their ability to work in politics, and purging them from the party. We do, by the way, have some updates on this story because we did cover this a lot last week, and frankly, a lot of the stuff that I was talking about has now been accepted into the canon of this story. I was the first person to tweet about the fact that this was over petty beef between Gavin Wax and Peter Gunta because Donald Trump took a picture, a selfie picture, with Gunta and didn't with Wax. We finally got some confirmations on this. This comes to us from AF Post. Like this was over a selfie. This was literally over a selfie. This was literally over a selfie. Yeah, and so there was the selfie issue, and then there was an issue of like, there was some kind of appointment or so. It was not what I heard. Within the New York State Republican Party, usually one of these young Republican clubs gets a seat on like the executive committee and Peter Gunta took a run at one of these seats and kind of etched Gavin Wax out. So this was all over petty beef. What about facts? Let's see here. First of all, the first update on this story is that Gavin Wax has resigned on the New York Young Republican Club. And the New York Young Republican Club has, they have released a statement saying that they quote, empathize with the 10 members of the restore YR chat whose reputations and careers were destroyed for private internal messages. And so yeah, buy, buy Gavin. Now he needs to get fired from the State Department. By the way, he works under like Darren Beatie and Sarah Rogers I think might be her name. So we still need to get some action over there. And you know, the New York, yeah, this is New York Young Republican Club is issued a statement condemning the leak telegram chats. And here it is. According to people close to the matter, Gavin Wax leaked the Young Republican's telegram messages to Politico in an effort [0:29:05] Rebecca Hargraves to settle a personal score with former NYSR, NYSYR president Peter Goonta. [0:29:11] Dave Reilly The grudge began after Wax felt Goonta had undermined him by taking a photo opportunity with Donald Trump at a wild wood rally. An opportunity Wax believed was rightfully his. So if you listen to the backlash, I'm telling you, we've got the goods on all this shit. Now this has led to a second follow up shot across the bow. My boy, my man, fucking, who is fucking with Paul and Grasya? Have you guys seen these messages? LP of you? Yeah, briefly kind of eggly. Bro, this guy, he's my man. It was even tamer than the way to. There's like nothing. So Paul and Grasya, he is the White House liaison to the Department of Justice. And you know, he said some pretty tame stuff like MLK junior was the 1960s George Floyd and his holiday should be ended. And tossed into the seventh circle of hell where it belongs. Episode 86 [0:30:09] Rebecca Hargraves Totally. Yeah, facts. [0:30:11] Dave Reilly He said, I do have a Nazi street. I will admit it. Never trust a Chinaman or an Indian. Never. Yeah. And my favorite, my favorite. I said we are making quons illegal in the next Trump admin. That was the gist of my tweet. No. Mulanion holidays. [0:30:31] Rebecca Hargraves What is pulling it? [0:30:32] Dave Reilly That's like an italian. You don't know what a Mulanion is. What is that? Well, Mulanion, it's kind of derived from the word eggplant, but it's essentially. It's an italian version of the N word. So no Mulanion holidays. [0:30:45] Rebecca Hargraves By the way, Mulanion is now at the top of my racial slur rotation. [0:30:49] Dave Reilly It's a good one. It has surpassed the N word and the K word. It is now my favorite. The N word. Are you allowed to say the short version? Mulie. [0:30:57] Cameron M Yeah. [0:30:58] Rebecca Hargraves I like that. [0:31:00] Dave Reilly That word. Why not? The N word. So yeah. So we got Peter Pauling-Grassia who was getting taken out. He had a Senate confirmation hearing scheduled for tomorrow. And he has pulled out from it saying that he doesn't have the support from the Republican Party to be confirmed. And this is because the Republican Party is controlled by Zionist Jews. Straight up. And something else about this situation that literally nobody else is going to cover, because I don't think anybody else knows this. But this is, I believe, a targeted attack against traditional Catholics. All the kids in the young Republican group chat were Catholic. Most of them were Catholic, specifically SSPX Catholics and Pauling-Grassia, also an SSPX Catholic. Because it isn't about you, Dave. Well, I'm just saying. Like it's getting a little weird that a bunch of people in my network are being targeted by Politico. [0:32:00] Rebecca Hargraves I think that's fucked up. Yeah. [0:32:02] Dave Reilly Episode 86 Because when you become anti-Semitic, you want to become Catholic. True. No, when I became Catholic, it made me anti-Semitic. The good Friday liturgy. Oh, yeah. It brought me to tears. [0:32:12] Rebecca Hargraves We can't act like there's no crossover here. [0:32:14] Dave Reilly Now, I do have to take a brief three-minute detour, if you guys are ready for us. We have, this is now, let's see. We are now doing a brief interview with the Daily Beast. So this comes from Laura Esposito, a reporter for the Daily Beast, who has reached out to me about these leaked messages. A lot of bitch. Do you think the recent surfacing of texts from Ingrossia and the Young Republicans' group chat has had a chilling effect on younger GOP voices or has it emboldened them? Well, I will reiterate what I said in my little selfie video that you've turned these people now into lifelong radicals. By doing this to them, by tanking their careers, they're no longer limited by polite society or discourse. You've radicalized them. You've turned them into radicals because now they don't have to hide the power levels. They don't have to pretend like this isn't going on. So, frankly, I think that this is going to, on the one hand, emboldened people. But on the other hand, it's going to serve as a cautionary tale. And I think that people are going to play their cards maybe a little closer to their chest. Be careful. Be careful with your group chats. Like, maybe don't let Jews in the group chat. Yeah, for real. Okay. Question number one. Number two. It seems like just as many voices on the right have defended in Gracia and the group members as have condemned them. Do you think that moving forward, comments like theirs will become less controversial or carry fewer consequences? Wow, what a super sleuth she is. The direction that the GOP is going in. G. I don't know. [0:33:50] Cameron M What do you think it's going to happen? Wait a second. [0:33:52] Dave Reilly They would have been executed. [0:33:53] Cameron M I know. [0:33:55] Dave Reilly Now the reaction was when we read those messages like, oh, these aren't nearly as bad as my telegraph. No, it's absolutely not. So yeah, no, I mean, the right needs to start embracing the radicals. This is something that the left does very well when you see these crazy people going out, getting arrested and dragged off at meetings. What happens? The left all circles around them. They run cover for them. They donate to their bail fund. They stand together and sell it. This is what, you know, Matt Walsh and Ben Shapiro were bitching about. And we need to do the same thing. I'm sorry. Fuck you, Ben Shapiro. [0:34:27] Rebecca Hargraves Laura Espicito. [0:34:28] Dave Reilly Episode 86 Laura Espicito is the name of the Chicago border. So do I think there will be fewer consequences in the future? Well, it's pretty foxy, hang around. Hopefully. Yes, I believe that there will be. And so yeah, this is a good thing. And then the third and final question. And just in general, curious as to the direction you think the GOP is going. Oh, my God, these are such stupid questions. It's okay. We need the controversy. We need to have the daily beast, you know, like, oh far right Nazis support Republican party. No, but it's just annoying. Do you ever spend all day talking to adults and then you have to talk to children and you just feel like they're retarded and you don't want to do it. [0:35:08] Rebecca Hargraves But that's how I feel with these questions. It's like, where have you been? [0:35:11] Dave Reilly Are you, you know the answer to these questions? I know you know, they're bad questions. [0:35:15] Rebecca Hargraves You're lucky. You're hot. [0:35:17] Dave Reilly Do better. Yeah. So in general, the direction that GOP is going in. Obviously, it's going in a Zionist occupied direction. Purching the party of anybody who isn't a fucking Zionist bought and paid for. So that's the direction it's going in. And it's not going to be good for anybody. Frankly, it's not good for Americans. It's not good for the Palestinians. It's not good for literally anybody who gives a shit about this country. So that is why we need these young radical kids that aren't bought off. They're not taking the $7,000 checks. We need more of them. So step up. Do your job. Infiltrate. Let's get into these solutions. Oh, listen to this article that she wrote. She said, she said, from a telegram chat made of young Republican leaders containing 251 slurs, [0:36:05] Rebecca Hargraves including the N word, the F-slur and a declaration of love for Hitler. [0:36:11] Dave Reilly This is crazy. This is crazy. [0:36:13] Rebecca Hargraves This is crazy. [0:36:14] Dave Reilly I'm breaking shit lady. Oh, geez. They're not sending their best. These reporters are. They've got it. They've got it. Oh, no. Can I say two things real quick? Of course. Absolutely. The Gavin Wax, the Jewish guy, he wasn't in the group chat for my understanding. He extorted somebody to that group. Oh, right, right, yeah. Correct. The secret. You can't even write. Just keeping them out doesn't even necessarily protect you. [0:36:37] Rebecca Hargraves It's really kind of telling how you almost you almost can't say anything. [0:36:43] Dave Reilly Episode 86 Yeah. You know what I mean? Because there could be some Jew behind the scenes extorting one of your friends to get the leaves. And by the way, that was Mike Bartels that got extorted. Yeah. And it's because he is a deeply closeted homosexual. [0:36:57] Rebecca Hargraves Not anymore. [0:36:58] Dave Reilly Mr. Bartels, you're welcome. Oh. I freed you last week. I'm freeing you again today. You don't have to hide it anymore. Just go to confession, buddy. It's okay. Is that what you're calling outing everybody in front of thousands of people? [0:37:09] Rebecca Hargraves What? You're free now. [0:37:11] Dave Reilly Yeah. There's a certain element. Like, I don't like the gay pride parades. I don't like the pride flags. But hey, look, if you're gay and you're hiding it, well, that means someone can like have power over you and wheeled that against you. So listen, if you're going to be a gay conservative at this point, just fucking own it. And then where are you going to say something about being a gay conservative? I'm going to say if your ex has pictures of you and your underwear, just post them to Twitter and then she can't blackmail you. [0:37:35] Rebecca Hargraves There you go. [0:37:36] Dave Reilly Inside J.F. [0:37:37] Cameron M Joke. Yeah. [0:37:40] Dave Reilly The other thing I want to say is that I agree with Dave on Matt Walsh. [0:37:43] Rebecca Hargraves I don't know. [0:37:44] Dave Reilly I have a soft spot for the guy and I just, I'm holding out hope that he is going to be, he's going to transform into like, just make a Hitler. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I hate Italians and I hate Canadians. Listen, hey, what are we doing here? You guys are going to hate these ethnic groups. You guys are reverting to type. The real red pill is realizing that you can be not, you can't be a part of this group. You can't, Cameron can because of his heritage breeding so he can stay. Italian. Episode 86 [0:38:13] Cameron M Well, I think the only thing I would say is it's a mistake to think that any of these people believe in anything, right? [0:38:20] Dave Reilly This is a persistent myth again that I see is that there's this sort of ideological conviction [0:38:27] Cameron M in people that hold power or have influence. That's not true. They believe in themselves. They believe in monopolizing influence. So you better believe if the masses change their minds, that's exactly what they're [0:38:39] Dave Reilly doing. [0:38:40] Cameron M These people are not leaders. They're not leading public opinion, right? They're not rebellious thinkers. They're not a vanguard. All they are are people that are trying to court public opinion to make money, right? To self promote themself. Yeah. They do not believe in anything. [0:38:55] Dave Reilly There's got to be an exception to the rule, right? [0:38:58] Cameron M There's got to be an exception. [0:38:59] Dave Reilly Absolutely. Could, could somebody who believed in something ever rise to that level in your opinion, like is it? [0:39:06] Cameron M Precisely. Right? This is exactly the point. This is how we knew that Trump's administration would be a fraud, because if he were legitimate, he would never have been permitted to be president of the United States. He had to make moral concessions to get there all the way. And that tells you that the system is systemically broken, which means you need a new movement, means you need new parties, all of the things that we talked about. That is exactly the right point. [0:39:35] Dave Reilly I agree. This feels like a natural opportunity to transition to the Ireland segment. It is. Going from one ethnic group to another, one non-white ethnic group to another non-white ethnic group. Sorry. I'm just texting the word mule and yawn to the chat. Because there's no motion. We got no motion over on the backlash YouTube. [0:39:54] Rebecca Hargraves There's like- I knew about mule and yawn, though, from the sopranos. Episode 86 [0:39:57] Dave Reilly Well, yeah. By the way, I have to make a culpo. I've never watched the sopranos. [0:40:02] Rebecca Hargraves What? Cameron, have you watched this? [0:40:05] Dave Reilly This must be why we're such cocks, Dave. [0:40:07] Cameron M I'd ever watched the sopranos either. [0:40:09] Dave Reilly Are you people serious? There you go. [0:40:11] Cameron M No, I'm having- I have seen the Godfather and I'm sure that's better. [0:40:14] Dave Reilly I've been watching. What's that show? Shit's Creek. You've been watching Shit's Creek and you haven't seen the sopranos? Yes, you know, I know. I got to tell my wife we're going to switch. We're going to go back and watch the sopranos. James Gandalfini is the most masculine TV character as Tony soprano that I've ever seen. It was really funny. There was one of these scenes where his daughter is dating this half black. [0:40:35] Rebecca Hargraves Yeah, and it calls- [0:40:36] Dave Reilly He's like, oh. I've seen that clip. What do you like to detune? He's like, I don't know. [0:40:40] Rebecca Hargraves Like a charcoal briquette, a mule and yawn. [0:40:44] Dave Reilly And he's like, and what you're going to do is pick up my daughter, take it back to school, and then say, goodbye. Yeah, yeah. So anyway. You guys should watch it. [0:40:53] Rebecca Hargraves That's a good show. [0:40:54] Dave Reilly Episode 86 We got no motion on the group chat. You send in your superchats, by the way, if you have any special questions. For I Hypocrite, send them in. To talk about. To talk about. We'll talk about all of your questions and answers. Can you pull up number five? [0:41:11] Rebecca Hargraves Yes. I. Man, have you guys all been following this Ireland story? This is just- It is, I know it's based on something that was horrible and tragic, but I am- I'm feeling better about the state of the world with the responses that are happening to this. [0:41:27] Dave Reilly The Irish are reverting the type. [0:41:29] Rebecca Hargraves They are reverting it in the best way possible. [0:41:32] Dave Reilly The victim blaming has already started in Ireland after a 10-year-old girl was raped by an African asylum seeker with an active deportation order. The media are using words like she absconded and behavioral issues to describe a 10-year-old rape victim. The system that enabled this incident is rallying to protect itself. [0:41:49] Rebecca Hargraves We will not allow that to happen. Even normal Irish people don't care about being called race anymore after what happened yesterday. Tesla must be shut down. It's my understanding that Tesla is like their- Oh my gosh. [0:42:00] Dave Reilly What is the word for- [0:42:02] Rebecca Hargraves It's like their foster care system, right? I don't know. [0:42:05] Dave Reilly Oh okay. [0:42:06] Rebecca Hargraves I just must be shut down. Jim O'Callaghan must resign and that's just the beginning. [0:42:11] Dave Reilly The people of Ireland will no longer accept living in a society where children are prey for African predators. Everything changed yesterday. So there are major riots going on across the country. [0:42:21] Rebecca Hargraves Let's pull up six tensions. Episode 86 [0:42:23] Dave Reilly Guys, in Ireland, does Irish citizens set ablaze police vehicles and check passing vehicles for non-Irish citizens [0:42:29] Rebecca Hargraves after yesterday a 10-year-old girl was allegedly raped by an African migrant? Ireland is ready to erupt. [0:42:35] Dave Reilly Let's check this out. Take a look. [0:42:37] Cameron M It's Irish. It's Irish. [0:42:41] Rebecca Hargraves It's Irish. Let him through his Irish. [0:42:44] Cameron M It's Irish. [0:42:46] Rebecca Hargraves It's Irish. [0:42:48] Cameron M It's Irish. It's Irish. It's Irish. It's Irish. What do you think, bitches? [0:42:56] Rebecca Hargraves You think they're pulling out non-Irish citizens and just like beating their asses? [0:43:00] Dave Reilly See, this is, this, we're going to get into this. We had an argument earlier today in our pre-show meeting. It said, let him through his Irish and then you said, Irish citizen. Okay, well, Indians can be Irish citizens. As we know from E. Michael Jones, the black sub-Saharan Africans, according to him, can be Irish. Symantics, every single one of you. They're not white Irish. Every single one of you knows that I'm talking about white Irish. [0:43:27] Rebecca Hargraves The Irish are Irish. Yeah, I get it. [0:43:30] Dave Reilly I understand. It's a white movement. Irish. Oh, come on. They don't have to be white. They see in America we have a melting pot. Which is not a good thing. [0:43:41] Rebecca Hargraves It's not a good thing. Episode 86 [0:43:42] Dave Reilly Okay, I'm not in favor of the melting pot. Israel's Anglo. Can go fuck himself. He's dead. It's great right now. The point is in America, we got white people and black people and brown people. In Ireland, there are Irish people and non-Irish people. [0:43:58] Rebecca Hargraves That's it. [0:43:59] Dave Reilly There's no white distinction that necessary. [0:44:02] Rebecca Hargraves Because they're black. [0:44:03] Dave Reilly Just like in Germany. There's their Germans in Germany, France for the French, Germany for the German, Ireland for the Irish. It's very pertinent. It's very important. I think I just quoted Hitler. [0:44:14] Rebecca Hargraves No, we have a problem now because they're deeply integrated. Non-white Irish citizens. Those people are not Irish. [0:44:22] Dave Reilly If you have to be white to be Irish, there are distinctions to be made here. Okay. A non-white Irish citizen. I will grant you that that is a category of reality and not just a category of the mind. Thank you. Okay. [0:44:37] Rebecca Hargraves EMJ, I'll tell you what. Keith Woods has been doing some excellent reporting on this. [0:44:42] Dave Reilly Everybody check him out on Twitter. He's actually coming on the show in November. Dave T.B.D. Here he is reporting outside of a flaming migrant hotel. And that doesn't mean gay. Come on. [0:44:55] Cameron M You're going to play for me. I'm here at the protest at City-West Hotel, where a migrant, a asylum figure that was support to be supported, stayed in the country and ran up to 10-year-old Irish girl that was in state care. As you can see, things are massively kicking off here. It's probably well over a thousand protesters. Unfortunately, this is the first time we've seen like this even in the last year or two. So things are really reaching a boiling point here. [0:45:22] Dave Reilly Yikes. Amazing. Yeah. He's at the fire, right, as the backdrop. And then, oh, people are protesting. Episode 86 [0:45:29] Rebecca Hargraves That's what I would do. [0:45:32] Dave Reilly Amazing. I had a few more clips, but I think we should get into the discussion. So what? I didn't roll in his B-roll. How is this going to end? [0:45:40] Rebecca Hargraves I mean, are we going to watch the government start killing and detaining? It's own citizens for rioting, so they can protect African migrants with deportation orders. [0:45:48] Dave Reilly I mean, that's obviously just going to cause more rioting. They're not going to be able to contain the situation at a certain point in time. They're going to have to accept the reality that there's a people's revolt that they cannot contain. What do you think this looks like to you over the next, I don't know, six months? Well, I'll tell you this. This is my thoughts watching it. There's this Irish nationalist I follow. Her name's Barnette. It might be Rebecca, actually. I can't remember her first name, but she's married to this other little nationalist dude. And he was in this. [0:46:22] Rebecca Hargraves Just an barit. That's it. [0:46:24] Dave Reilly Yeah, he was in this. [0:46:25] Rebecca Hargraves I don't know if you guys saw the viral clip where he was talking to Ezra Levant. [0:46:28] Dave Reilly And he was saying, go be Jewish somewhere else. That's just an barit. Okay, so his wife, she tweeted out how they were like marching peacefully. And she said the police instigated on them and kind of escalated things. [0:46:41] Rebecca Hargraves I don't know how true that is, but for me, it's like the day we win, the day I'll know we won, [0:46:48] Dave Reilly is when I wake up and the police are like standing aside and letting this happen. [0:46:53] Rebecca Hargraves I don't know how you're as an Irish policeman. [0:46:56] Dave Reilly Episode 86 You see what happened to that girl and you think it's my job to stop the people who want to stop this. They must be conflicted. They must feel some sense of shame. And the day they just stand down, that's it. Yeah, that's when the Irish people win, for sure. But yeah, I mean, it is also amazing to see the reversion to type. Because the Irish have always been. It's like you back him into a corner and you brow beat him and you brow beat him and then boom, they get violent. They're scrappy. [0:47:30] Rebecca Hargraves It's awesome. [0:47:31] Dave Reilly I love to see it. God bless the IRA. We need a revival. We got to fire up the, what was that group again? The ancient order of hibernians. I'm sorry. If ever there was going to be white Zionism, it would just be supporting Irish nationalists running guns. [0:47:52] Rebecca Hargraves I would never do that. [0:47:58] Dave Reilly But yeah, I think this is great. And you know, it's wonderful to see. You know, nice warm fire. You can warm your hands by. Do that gesture too much. It's a guard of vehicle. I don't trust any of you. Now both of you have done this during the episode. Cameron, what do you think the next six months looks like for the Irish? [0:48:15] Rebecca Hargraves Do you think the government's going to collapse? [0:48:17] Cameron M All right. So what have we told you from the inception of this podcast? We have told you that there are these things called archetypes. And that archetypes are embedded in the ethnic peoples that define nations. Nations like Ireland or Scotland or England or Germany or even the United States. And I would take exception of what Dave said a moment ago. The United States is absolutely not a melting pot, which is why we speak English. It's why we have Christian holidays. It's why all of the statues that bestried this nation happened to look like European peoples. We, in fact, were one of the more homogenous nations ever formed in history of Western civilization, maybe in the history of the world. That is a well-documented fact. That changed in the 1960s. Really didn't change until the 1980s. That change was a relatively recent development. That being said, what we have said, what we've conveyed to you, is that ultimately people wake up. There are lines that cannot be crossed. And one of those lines, particularly for white peoples, [0:49:25] Dave Reilly is when children, women and children are victimized. [0:49:28] Cameron M Now, a little bit of context for this situation. It appears as though, in addition to a massive migration problem, which has beset Ireland like every other country in the Western world, there appears to be some kind of collusion or corruption with this Tilsa state-backed agency that steps in to handle children that are not properly cared for, or maybe they're abandoned. What have you? And the immigration Episode 86 problem is actually fueling that. So there appears to be some kind of child trafficking business that is tied to the governmental authority in Ireland. And that's a big reason why you're beginning to see protests across the country. It's also noteworthy that what happened in Ireland recently, happened in a relatively prominent suburb in Dublin. So these are sort of quakes that are beginning to go off. One other thing I wanted to note just for a moment, is that academic agent was on a few weeks ago, and I sort of took some shots at what he said. Because this is an illustration of how utterly wrong what he said was, particularly about online behavior. And very specifically, I went through an article called, maybe Dave, you can bring it up. It's called court appearances after pre-planned violence in city west. City west is the Dublin suburb where this happened. And in this article, listen to what they have to say about the nature of the protests that are happening all over the country. It says, and I quote, the violence was orchestrated. I'm assuming there wasn't much violence. This is probably a hit piece, but nonetheless says quote, the violence was orchestrated and pre-planned online, according to the officer in charge of the policing operation. The chief superintendent Michael McNulty described the event as a public gathering organized by disparate groups on social media who stir up hatred and violence and encourage others to get involved. Goes on and on and on and makes references to the same thing. Academic agent assured us and defiantly said that what happens online is spurious. It's irrelevant. It's marginal. It's not real political behavior. [0:51:52] Rebecca Hargraves This is absolute nonsense. [0:51:55] Dave Reilly What's happening online is the only meaningful political behavior that's gone on for the last decade plus. [0:52:02] Cameron M Part of the universe that all three of you have helped create. And that is precisely what's going on in Ireland. One other thing here and this gets to the answer to your question. You're asking me where things headed. I saw an interview recently, maybe it's in our clips. I don't know. But it was with three Irishmen talking about political affairs on the Eddie Dobs channel. By the way, if you want to know about Irish politics and find out what's going on over there, you need to follow Eddie Dobs on YouTube. [0:52:30] Dave Reilly Just go on YouTube Google or Google his name. [0:52:34] Cameron M Eddie Dobs and you'll find I think it's called crosstalk or cross-point something like that. Look him up and you can follow Irish politics more closely. In any case, what these three gentlemen basically said is that Ireland is a tinderbox. And it's also worth mentioning that there's a presidential election in the very near future in Ireland as well. Which is relatively speaking irrelevant to what's happening on the streets because nobody in the electoral sphere is going to change any of this. [0:53:03] Dave Reilly What about Connor McGregor? [0:53:05] Cameron M In any case, the question that you're asking me is where we headed. What is happening in Ireland? Which is what's happening in France? Which is what's happening in the United States is that the social Episode 86 contract has been breached. [0:53:18] Dave Reilly The government does not represent the citizenry anymore. [0:53:22] Cameron M Remember, every social contract that a government must adhere to has to at a minimum protect the population. The government in Ireland is not doing so. Protesters are becoming increasingly emboldened against it as a result. And eventually, as you say, the police will turn against the government because they know that the social contract has been violated. And that goes for them as well. [0:53:46] Dave Reilly This is the situation that we face. [0:53:48] Cameron M We're headed in other words for some kind of a revolutionary event. [0:53:51] Dave Reilly Yeah, no, I think you're spot on. [0:53:54] Rebecca Hargraves Why don't we play these clips? [0:53:56] Dave Reilly I mean, got it up, we can play it really quick. And by the way, I want to agree with what Cameron was saying about the melting pot and all that. America was essentially an ethno state until 1965. Let's all be honest about that. It was a 90% of white country. Just to gauge the severity of the situation. [0:54:10] Rebecca Hargraves Not only in Ireland, but across Europe. The grooming gangs are more serious than we could possibly imagine. This situation, I mean, I think that as Americans were like, this is happening sometimes. [0:54:22] Dave Reilly But this is an orchestrated, well-connected group of people, of kind of disparate groups that are trading white girls. [0:54:30] Rebecca Hargraves They're getting girls into drugs. Very, very young girls. So this is a clip from Eddie Hobbs that you just referenced. Let's play this to 221. That's I may hear is a UCD report entitled protecting against predators. [0:54:46] Dave Reilly And it was written by Dr. Mary Canning, Dr. Marie Keenan and Ruth Brezlin. And the fact that this report comes out of UCD, you know, says it all, if they're saying it how bad must it be. And what they Episode 86 say in this report is that this is only the tip of the iceberg. But this report delivers a stark warning into the ongoing and escalating risks of child exploitation. And what the really interesting part and shocking part about this is that in most cases, this is happening. This abuse is happening in organized fashion by coordinated networks of gangs of predatory men. And this report draws a direct correlation. It mentions them by name of the grooming gangs in the UK in Rochdale and rather them. And I just want to read one direct quote from the report which you could then discuss at length and apply to the facts of the case. So the quote is girls are being picked up in taxis and brought to hotels where they're being coerced or enticed to provide sexual acts to multiple men in exchange for money phones or drugs. [0:56:00] Rebecca Hargraves It's organized. It's not random networks sharing kids like commodities. [0:56:06] Dave Reilly Can you play seven? [0:56:09] Rebecca Hargraves When was that? [0:56:10] Dave Reilly I report published. Can you play seven B? This is the government reaction to what is obviously going on? [0:56:17] Rebecca Hargraves How little they care? [0:56:19] Dave Reilly Helen McIntee. We'll bring her up here now so you can actually see what she said. [0:56:25] Rebecca Hargraves Helen McIntee in February, 2004, which was after the publication of the UCD report says this. [0:56:32] Dave Reilly There is certainly not an increase. There is certainly not a correlation between the increasing numbers that we've seen in the last two years and an increase in crime. That is very clear. [0:56:41] Rebecca Hargraves There are no facts to support a correlation between immigration figures and crime rates. [0:56:46] Dave Reilly Thank you. Helen McIntee then as Minister for Justice. [0:56:49] Rebecca Hargraves Good lord. [0:56:51] Dave Reilly Episode 86 They're just going to allow this to happen. They want to be politically correct. [0:56:55] Rebecca Hargraves They want to be popular. And so they're going to just sacrifice little white girls at the altar of multiculturalism. [0:57:02] Dave Reilly They don't give a shit. This government deserves to be thrown over. Of course. I mean, fuck the dial. And how do you say the Taysac? We need a new one. Taysac. Yeah, Taysac. Thank you. [0:57:17] Cameron M Yeah, and incidentally, the prime minister of Ireland. I think it's Michael Martin, his name. He said repeatedly that Ireland has no real homogenous national identity. Yeah. [0:57:32] Dave Reilly So he is embedded. [0:57:34] Cameron M He's invested as is the entire government of Ireland, as is the entire government in the United Kingdom in the mess that has been created. And the important thing to note about all this folks is that there's no reverse gear. They're not going to change course. They're just going to double down and double down and double down until there is an explosion that throws them from power. Unfortunately, that explosion is almost certainly going to be violent at this point. They have let things get completely out of control. And they're unprepared for the collateral damage that they've caused. [0:58:06] Dave Reilly Is it legal for us to call for revolution in a different country? Because I know that it might be like getting close to like Fed posting if we were to say that about America. But like, why not? Dave is the Fed. Now I'm not. I'm just like half Irish, half Italian. So I'm clearly not white. And you know, fuck these guys. How many hundreds of years did the Irish, did my people suffered for hundreds of years? [0:58:39] Rebecca Hargraves We fought for our country. [0:58:41] Dave Reilly And then oh, God, what happened? You know, Google took it over. We need to take our country back. It was promised to me. I have some Irish, too. [0:58:50] Rebecca Hargraves Get out of here. [0:58:52] Dave Reilly But really, I mean, you know, they spent all this time fighting. And now like what? Vinigale, gay, the Sinn Fein, gay. All of these parties are awful. You know, the only, the only, there's two political parties in Ireland that stand any chance. And one is the national party. And then the other one is so in the Episode 86 hiring, which is the Irish national, Irish nationalist party. And I'm probably mispronouncing that because I'm, you know, dumb. [0:59:21] Rebecca Hargraves Yeah, but now we're talking about using the system for political solutions. [0:59:24] Dave Reilly And that's obviously not happening. No, no, I'm saying that they have like multiple parties. It ain't like a two party system like it is over here. Dave, I know. Okay, I'm just saying the only ones that are even close are these two. And there's small minority parties. But you know, you want to get in here? I'll grab a hold of this moment. I did a lot of research into the grooming gangs in the UK. I made like a two hour documentary. I read books. I know everything there is to know. I picked apart their white wash government report that they put out to cover up the whole thing. And it's so reminiscent. Like it's the same thing all over again, you know. And I think Cameron's right there. [1:00:02] Rebecca Hargraves There's no, you can't make these people backtrack. [1:00:06] Dave Reilly No, and especially when they're the fucking leader of the government, the leader of the Irish people, you know, is saying that there basically is no Irish nation. There is no Irish people. Like he said something to the effect of like, oh, well, nationality is fluid. It's very fluid. And it's like, what are you talking about? [1:00:24] Rebecca Hargraves What are you talking about? It's the most inflexible of all categories. [1:00:27] Dave Reilly Hello. [1:00:28] Cameron M Yeah, but the key point is, and you guys are hitting on it, but I'll just reinforce it, is that it doesn't matter whether you're talking about Mark Carney, or you're talking about the Irish prime minister, you're talking about Kierstommer in the UK or Macron in France, they're all the same. They're all echoing the same sentiments. [1:00:46] Dave Reilly They all more or less believe that there is no European identity. [1:00:50] Cameron M In fact, they believe that European identity is a threat that it needs to be destroyed, subverted, undermined, and replaced. That's why they're supporting the mass immigration that they are. The difference, though, is that none of these people understand delicacy, [1:01:05] Dave Reilly Episode 86 the legitimacy of the state. If you lose legitimate authority, and this is a subject we've talked about at length, [1:01:14] Cameron M but I'm not sure it fully registers because in the United States, and I think Canada as well, you know, we're relatively young countries. We haven't had long bouts of time where the rule of law has been suspended or didn't exist. Outside of the frontier, you know, the frontier in American history was relatively lawless for a long time. That is absolutely the case. But outside of that experience, we don't really know what it's like. And the beginnings of that occur when legitimate authority is compromised, and it's very difficult to restore that once it's gone. It has not been completely demolished yet. And that's why those protesters are out there protesting because they still believe that they can send a message to elected officials and they will change course. We all know that that is exactly what is not going to happen. So the direction of travel is much more explosive. [1:02:13] Dave Reilly Yep, and we're seeing this in the United States, too. As we talked about a little bit on Monday, EBT is in the midst of getting canceled. [1:02:20] Rebecca Hargraves And people are about to find out what happens. [1:02:23] Dave Reilly Was it PNW that said that we're three days of no food away from a complete? We both said, I said three meals. I thought the quote was your three meals away from violent revolution. I thought that was the quote. He said three days. Okay, I mean, you know, it's three meals. Three meals, but it might take three days for these people to run out of food. And then, you know, so they haven't even run out of food and they're already bitching. So I would assume three meals is appropriate. Yeah, well, these people don't really plan ahead. You know, aren't they kind of used the fruit falling and all around? Yeah, let's go through this. [1:02:58] Rebecca Hargraves What is wrong with you, Dave? [1:03:00] Dave Reilly President Donald Trump's administration is moving to suspend all supplemental nutrition. This is a SNAP program. Assistance program benefits for roughly 42 million Americans amid the ongoing government shutdown. [1:03:12] Rebecca Hargraves You may not bring them back earlier this month, the Department of Agriculture Center, [1:03:15] Dave Reilly letter to states, warning little laps and appropriations had resulted in insufficient funds [1:03:19] Rebecca Hargraves to pay SNAP benefits through November. Episode 86 [1:03:21] Dave Reilly Over the weekend, states began to issue warnings to their most vulnerable residents that benefits would be suspended even soon. [1:03:27] Rebecca Hargraves Or let's see what's going to happen. The black people are telling us, let's pull up clip nine. Finna, get hectic. [1:03:34] Dave Reilly Was this the one? That's the one. Oh, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. All right. Dave, it's Santa Clara. That's my boy. Nice. Let's go. All right. Oh. She says finna get hectic. It's finna get hectic. It do be like that, Mr. Stan. So it do be like that. Here we go. [1:03:55] Cameron M Y'all better lock y'all cars at night. Lock your cars. Lock your house. [1:03:59] Dave Reilly Sub. [1:04:00] Cameron M If you wanted them people, they just leave you your car. I'm locked. Parking your driveway. Been locking. With the full stance being grown and people not going to have no people going to eat. [1:04:07] Dave Reilly Okay. [1:04:08] Cameron M Nobody's just going to. This is 2025. Nobody's just not going to eat. Nobody's. Full stamps. I'm telling you right now. Even with the government shutdown and the full stamps and stuff being grown for next month. And it's going to affect everybody. [1:04:22] Rebecca Hargraves There's going to be a lot of stuff going on. [1:04:24] Cameron M Okay. I'm not even going to talk about it too much because hey, you know what's about to have been locked your cars. [1:04:30] Rebecca Hargraves Lock them. Precious over here. [1:04:32] Dave Reilly She could skip like months of meals. She'd be fine. Episode 86 [1:04:35] Rebecca Hargraves What does it being 2025 and hunger have anything to do with one another? [1:04:42] Dave Reilly If people don't go hungry in 2024. If it's happened in the seventh century, I'm sorry, there would still be right. I know, I know. It's like, what are you talking about? Let's play ten. They're in a second. Hold on a second. I also want to point out because my wife and I were like, looking, you know, we were talking about this EBT thing, right? And so she was showing me this video of a black woman, honey, if you're listening, please text me the video of the black lady making her coffee. First of all, it was diabetes all over the place. Just like put in like a half of a jar of this like caramel or whatever into it. But her nails were like that, they were like that long. And I just want to point out that we got more nails going on here. These people are getting food stamps and then spending all of their money on nails and bracelets. And grills. What the fuck? And they're weaves. We need our weaves. When was that? [1:05:35] Rebecca Hargraves Do you guys remember that clip? [1:05:36] Dave Reilly It was during the George, was it the George Floyd riots or something like that? Yes, yes, yes. We need our weaves. [1:05:41] Rebecca Hargraves It was that clip it went so viral. What's AutoZone done for us lately? Yeah. She was talking about not looting local businesses. [1:05:53] Dave Reilly Yes. [1:05:54] Rebecca Hargraves And MSNBC and everybody cut off that clip. [1:05:56] Dave Reilly She's like, don't loop businesses in your own town. [1:05:59] Rebecca Hargraves But the next thing she said that they cut out was like, get the big guys. [1:06:03] Dave Reilly We need our weaves. I know. Let's watch this one. [1:06:08] Rebecca Hargraves And people are going to start. I'm telling you. This is going to be a thing. People are going to start instead of stealing groceries from the stores. They're going to start watching people go to their cars. And they're going to take all of their groceries. And you know what the store going to do? Episode 86 [1:06:26] Dave Reilly Not our business. [1:06:30] Rebecca Hargraves It's outside the store. They didn't do it in the store. It's not our property. Call 911. Call the authorities. [1:06:40] Cameron M Make a report. [1:06:42] Rebecca Hargraves They're going to leave you ask for it. And people are really going to be stealing people's carts of groceries. Of course. Out of the grocery parking lot. I'm telling you. Ising like his head it that way. Now. Let's go into 11. What are the choices? Are people going to have to find food to eat? Because people are going to be out here struggling. They're going to be out here. Bad bad. [1:07:11] Cameron M All right. [1:07:12] Dave Reilly Enough of that. I was just going to say like that was not where my mind went first. Like they're going to kill you. My thought was like, you know. My thought was, well, you know what they're going to do. They're going to start robbing Nike stores. Yeah. We're taking the shoes. Let's play 11 two before we talk about it. [1:07:32] Rebecca Hargraves That's really plausible. [1:07:33] Dave Reilly He's all serious over here. [1:07:35] Rebecca Hargraves Like, yeah, that is what's going to happen. Yeah. Let's see what this is now. They stop mobbing the stamps. [1:07:42] Dave Reilly Hold on. Hold on. [1:07:44] Rebecca Hargraves What are you saying? [1:07:45] Dave Reilly It's just this entitlement complex they have. Like, oh, you're not giving us our food. [1:07:49] Rebecca Hargraves Episode 86 We're going to take whatever we want. [1:07:50] Dave Reilly Like I could totally see it. It's reparations. Honkies. They actually don't get their food. Absolutely. All I know is if they stop mob food stamps, me and my man will be at the grocery store walking [1:08:00] Rebecca Hargraves out with two bags, two big ass cards. And they bet nobody better than that. Because my man come a heart behind me. And it only take him one time to punch your ass. [1:08:04] Cameron M All I know is if they stop mob food stamps. I think they're holding back. I mean, we all know what this is going to look like. It's going to. Dave, I sent you one in your DMs. It's like, you know, you're going to have to do it. You're going to have to do it. You're going to have to do it. [1:08:12] Dave Reilly You're going to have to do it. [1:08:13] Rebecca Hargraves You're going to have to do it. You're going to have to do it. They stop mob food stamps. I think they're holding back. We all know what this is going to look like. [1:08:20] Dave Reilly Dave, I sent you one in your DMs. Yes. It looks like a grid because it's a bunch of them put together. Oh, that's a good one. [1:08:29] Rebecca Hargraves Yeah. I saw that too. [1:08:31] Dave Reilly Hold on a second. Let's get this one going. [1:08:33] Cameron M That is so real. [1:08:49] Dave Reilly Whoever made that, they were so real for that. It's true. I know that we all think this is funny, but if they're not able to reinvigorate SNAP, which they probably shouldn't because this needs to happen at some point. [1:09:01] Rebecca Hargraves The level of violence that we saw from the summer of love is going to look adorable compared to what we are up against. Black people are going to come into white towns, and we're all going to have to defend ourselves. That's what this looks like. Episode 86 [1:09:15] Dave Reilly I guess my question is, is this going to wake people up or are people going to continue to have normalcy biases? [1:09:21] Rebecca Hargraves We're all getting robbed by black people for basic necessities. [1:09:24] Dave Reilly Let's go to Cameron. This is an interesting conundrum in part because I would say race realism over the last 10 years or so, which has obviously gained a sentences as we're discussing it plainly on this show has focused primarily on criminality. [1:09:52] Cameron M Less so on the economic disparities that have actually beleaguered the devil, the black community, from the inception of the Republic. There is this notion, there is this myth that when the civil rights era kicked off, that we deployed a package of reforms that basically integrated blacks into society. That never really happened. What actually happened is that we created massive redistribution networks that kept these people afloat for a long time, and they illustrate exactly how big the disparity is. This is going to blow your minds. There was a report that came out in 2015, Dave, you could probably bring it up. I was called the color of wealth. [1:10:38] Dave Reilly The color of wealth. [1:10:40] Cameron M 2015, it was published by the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston. They found that the median net worth for US-born black households in the Boston area was $8. I would suggest to all of you that that is a representative sample that actually speaking blacks across the United States with the exception of some small semblance of a black middle class, which does exist, is incredibly poor. That always has been, as I said, so that begs the question. [1:11:20] Dave Reilly If that's the case, how have we averted the social consequences of this disparity? [1:11:28] Cameron M Well, the answer is what you saw in those video clips. We have deployed bootstamps, welfare, health care, all manner of services that have been provided by the state and financed to some extent by white taxpayers. Although bear in mind that we were never really able to fund it, we had to borrow to make up the difference. Now, we're running out of money. This is the second longest government shutdown in the history of the United States. Government shutdown since the 1960s, I think there's almost 80 of them have almost uniformly been passed, meaning debt has accumulated to the high heavens. And nothing has been done about it. And now we have a debt crisis. That debt crisis means that whether Congress gets its acts together or not is kind of irrelevant and going forward increasingly, it will be irrelevant. And the bond markets, the animal spirits, will not bail us out. That means food stamps will get caught, will get cut, housing vouchers will get cut, electricity vouchers, all manner of services will get cut, and probably get cut aggressively in a short period of time. Episode 86 [1:12:43] Dave Reilly That means social cohesion will be tested. [1:12:46] Cameron M So get ready, folks, because that's where we're headed. [1:12:49] Dave Reilly I'm telling you, if you aren't hitting the range, I don't know what to say. [1:12:54] Rebecca Hargraves Oh, come on, Dave. You're such a fart snipper. [1:12:57] Dave Reilly We gotta get as much out of these clips as humanly possible. [1:13:03] Rebecca Hargraves Dave was so proud of himself he'd look into these. He's like, I look so cool. [1:13:06] Dave Reilly I look so cool. You know, I once had a live stream taken down from YouTube just because I played a video of a guy shooting guns. You got to be a little better. Yeah, we got to disguise it a little more than that. Yeah, you got to put the music on, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Hey, you guys thought the No Kings was bad? Wait till you see the No Kings protests. [1:13:25] Cameron M Really? [1:13:27] Dave Reilly Oh, what are we going to do? [1:13:29] Rebecca Hargraves I mean, I have a feeling that they're going to refinance SNAP before things get too real. [1:13:35] Dave Reilly Maybe. I don't know. Cameron, by the way, you've been gone. [1:13:38] Rebecca Hargraves When did the government shutdown start? [1:13:39] Dave Reilly Three weeks ago. [1:13:40] Rebecca Hargraves Episode 86 Three weeks ago. [1:13:41] Dave Reilly I don't know if we've really handed discussion with Cam about this. There's apparently some statute that says, if you're going to lay off a government employee in DC, you've got to give him two months notice. And so there was some discussion of, you know, the trusting the plan that the government shutdown is designed to last 61 days. And then they'll reopen it so that they can cut a bunch of federal employees. Have you heard anything about that? [1:14:10] Cameron M They do. So they do have a. [1:14:12] Dave Reilly They do have procedures that are built in to keep the government afloat. [1:14:16] Cameron M One is, right, that essential personnel stay on that distinction. I think goes back to the Carter administration. So you have essential government employees and in essentials. So the essentials can sort of fall off, but the essentials will stay. And then you get what are called, I think they're called extraordinary measures. And the extraordinary measures are deployed by the Treasury Department and they have a checking account at the Fed. And they basically run down that checking account to continue to pay government debt. [1:14:44] Dave Reilly A couple of things on on the debt ceiling itself. What is the debt ceiling? [1:14:50] Cameron M The debt ceiling goes back to World War One. [1:14:52] Dave Reilly And the reason it exists is originally the Constitution defined Congress as the governing body that disperses funds, right? [1:15:01] Cameron M That change in World War One because it was just not administratively fluid to deploy funding during wartime. Unfortunately, that never changed back. [1:15:12] Dave Reilly So what the Congress did is they created this debt ceiling, which was sort of a means to check the Treasury Department and the executive branch in terms of their spending, right? [1:15:23] Cameron M To sort of govern how much they were spending. Well, as I said, the debt ceiling has been breached like 75, 80 times in the last 100 years or so. So it hasn't worked at all. And the Treasury General Account is draining, right? Because we just don't have that much cash on hand anymore. So this could be the makings of a real crisis. Now, I think most of us agree that this is political theater. And as Episode 86 Rebecca said, they'll probably pull back from the break. But that's not really the point. The point is that we're going broke. The point is that the political dysfunction is creating doubt in the minds of our creditors. And the ratings agencies, Moody's, for example, they've all downgraded the United States debt in the last 10 years. I think Moody's recently downgraded our debt last summer, something of that nature. So in other words, this is a voting confidence. This is destroying the credit worthiness of the government. And at this stage, because we've done it so often, my guess is that nobody in Congress cares. They probably don't think twice about it. But it is eventually going to come to count. And you're going to see people have their benefits cut and probably cut pretty aggressively. Very fast. That will lead to something like Greece in 2011. If you go back to the pig's crisis, you had Greeks that lost their pensions overnight. And so they violently rioted. I think you can see that on a much larger scale in urban communities across the United States, where black populations are poor. As I said, they are poor. [1:16:58] Rebecca Hargraves $8 per capita household. [1:17:01] Dave Reilly That's not an individual. [1:17:03] Cameron M $8. And that was compared to, I think it was $250,000 to household and foster white families. That's unbelievable. [1:17:12] Dave Reilly We're looking at the chart now. And so this is, the chart has a dark blue light blue, dark blue is total assets. Light blue is net worth. Yes. So for white whites in Boston, it was about, you know, quarter of a million dollars for black people. It was $700 of total assets, $8 net worth. Now, you know, they are being a little outdone by the Dominicans. Zero. Zero dollars. [1:17:40] Rebecca Hargraves Oh my gosh. [1:17:41] Dave Reilly But that is, I mean, the one hand is criminal. But on the other hand, I mean, aren't they kind of doing it to themselves? [1:17:49] Rebecca Hargraves That is a testament to how robust social programs are though. True. [1:17:54] Dave Reilly Otherwise, how could they possibly sustain themselves on that little money? They can't. [1:17:58] Cameron M That's right. They can't. And remember that illegal immigrants are benefiting from the same largest. Again, there's a myth that there's a net benefit to having all this cheap labor. The cheap laborer often doesn't come with employer-backed health care. So who pays for their health care? What about the Episode 86 education of their children? We finance all of this. So basically what you have is a multi-racial welfare state in which the largest of the tax revenue, [1:18:25] Rebecca Hargraves the productivity of the white population, has been siphoned off to keep these people afloat for a long, long time. [1:18:32] Cameron M There never was any real integration, right? [1:18:35] Dave Reilly It was always some kind of a collective investment scheme. [1:18:38] Cameron M Now, the debts are too great and the economy is not strong. So we are headed for a massive tribalistic, you know, I guess a tribal explosion in a competition for resources. [1:18:52] Dave Reilly That's where we're headed. Yeah, it's also worth mentioning that the middle-class black people, a lot of their jobs are government jobs. They're essentially like affirmative action hires. So what wealth that you do see is a sort of illusionary, too, because a lot of those jobs are useless, right? They could be done better by computers at this point. Yeah. Yeah, we are headed for some serious. And by the way, that does lead us to a nice spot for me to put a little plug in to ODGG Supply, who is a new advent, of course, going with the planet of the apes on the fucking website, only shit. But ODGG Supply is now one of the proud sponsors of this program. They do have like a lot of stuff, especially their ape-approved gear, which within the context of this conversation sounds much worse than it is. But they've got all kinds of stuff tense. [1:19:57] Rebecca Hargraves They've got rucksacks. [1:19:59] Dave Reilly They've got equipment for being outside in the rain when you want to go shoot at the range. So anyway, if you're thinking about starting prepping, which I would, because this is going to lead to a serious crisis. If not resolved, you don't want to be caught flat-footed. You do want to be prepped. You do want to have supplies. You go to ODGG Supply.com if that is your thing. I think that was a good plug, wasn't it? I think that shoehorned in very fairly seamlessly. Yeah, yeah. We should talk about how seamless it was to make it more seamless. Yeah, you know. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. And look at where our money is going at the same time. Where's our money going? Just foreign wars. We're going to talk about the Venezuela thing in a second. It's going to Israel. It's going to Ukraine. Speaking of all of this stuff, this is another brief aside. We'll get more into this. I'm sure when we talk about our other sponsor, AtlasBoleon.com slash backlash. But I just found out the other day, and Cameron, I don't know if we've talked about this. So the United States, and I knew this. I knew that we deployed one quarter of all of our sad missile batteries to Israel to protect them during the 12-day war or whatever. So I think we all knew about that. But what I just found out yesterday that absolutely blows me away. Is that guess, guess how long it's going to take for us to replenish the amount of missiles that we launched in 12 days. A decade. A decade. Episode 86 [1:21:33] Rebecca Hargraves But China's not going to sell us the goods. China's not so smart. [1:21:38] Cameron M No, you know what's going on. [1:21:40] Rebecca Hargraves It's over here. [1:21:42] Dave Reilly We're frozen. I'm so sorry. We're frozen a little bit. We've got to let this catch up. But yeah, you're right. 10 years that it's going to take for us to replenish that. I don't actually know anything. Dave was telling me this. Did I tell you this? [1:21:57] Rebecca Hargraves Did I tell you this? Did I tell you this? [1:21:59] Cameron M I'm actually retarded. [1:22:00] Dave Reilly Here I am thinking you were smart. No, I mean, it's incredible. And so yeah, the rare earth thing is going to be like a huge problem. Our military is going to be crippled. And so, you know, add to that, you know, this EBT snap thing. And if these cities start freaking out and plus over the past couple of months because of the ice raids, the antifa, the far left, they have had a lot of time to create these mutual aid networks and essentially use these ice incursions as training. So if there is social unrest, these guys are going to be well prepared to take full advantage of it, which is, you know, what the Bolsheviks were doing during the revolution in Russia. Sorry, I'm done now. That's okay. [1:22:39] Rebecca Hargraves Let's talk about Venezuela. Can you pull up 12, please? [1:22:42] Dave Reilly Yes. I can. I can pull up. [1:22:46] Rebecca Hargraves The 10,000 U.S. troops now operating in the Caribbean were sent to interdict drug boats, [1:22:50] Dave Reilly but Venezuela and President Maduro, September 30th, state of the external emergency fundamentally changed what they're facing. [1:22:57] Rebecca Hargraves A military on full wartime alert equipped with Russian air defenses and anti-ship missiles Episode 86 [1:23:02] Dave Reilly backed by what Maduro claims is a militia of over 8 million members, number disputed. For American commanders, this means that every operation and incident now happens under the threat. A Venezuelan retaliation, the situation, the current force is not ready to handle. So we have been discussing this Venezuela thing because I listened to a Nick Fuentes segment a few days ago where he was talking about like, well, I don't want to mischaracterize what he said. He's like, well, I'm against regime change generally, but this may be for the benefit of the United States. [1:23:35] Rebecca Hargraves I'm like, no, no regime change. Nobody is talking about what happens when we institute regime change. [1:23:41] Dave Reilly Historically, we've been really, really bad about it. [1:23:43] Rebecca Hargraves And I think that the South American situation is far more complicated than any of us, except for Cameron, because he has an excellent sub-stack that he wrote about it. Realize, I think we have more interest there. [1:23:53] Dave Reilly I think that Rubio is probably at the helm there. Cameron, can you take a minute to discuss your sub-stack and to get into a little bit about what the real impetus is for our involvement in Venezuela? [1:24:08] Cameron M Well, I mean, as Dave said, right, if it takes you a decade to replenish, to replenish Patriot battery missiles, what better time to start another war in Venezuela? I mean, obviously, great, great pretext to expand your proxy worries around the world. Look, as far as I can tell, what's happening in Venezuela is largely being driven by the Cuban lobby. So when we talk about this show and its purpose, what is this show really about? Why do we do this? Why does Rebecca say America awakens? Well, we use those terms because we are just now really beginning to process who's at the helm of power in our society. What our identity really is because we've been so brainwashed, we've been so misled and lied to for the last 80 years, really since the end of World War II. And part of the answer to that question, part of what has frustrated our ability to implement policy that's in the national interest with our question is Zionism is the domination of the state of the media by Jewish influence. But that's not the only influence. We also have rogue agencies like the CIA, which I'm going to get into in just a moment. But we also have the Cuban lobby. And it has been said that Donald Trump is a pay for play kind of president. And if you pay big bucks and it seems like Cuban lobby has, then you get results. And part of the result of that is that Marco Rubio is a secretary of state and the acting national security adviser and Marco Rubio since he has been a senator at the behest of the Cuban lobby. And Rubio supposedly has somewhat of an untoward background as well. [1:25:55] Dave Reilly If you follow Max Blumenthal, he was known back in the day as Narco Rubio. [1:26:00] Cameron M Episode 86 I'll let you make up that what you will. But Rubio has been pushing regime change in Venezuela since he's been a senator. [1:26:10] Dave Reilly Now, why is that? [1:26:12] Cameron M Why would the Cuban lobby want that? [1:26:14] Dave Reilly Well, some of that is a legacy of losing Cuba to Castro. [1:26:19] Cameron M So they sort of identify Maduro with Castro. But part of it is that this Latin American influence over our government is pivoting the United States more in the direction of Latin American affairs. And I say that important because we just bailed out Argentina. So Malay's government, which is flailing and Argentina is not exactly known for its financial rectitude. We have sent $20 billion down there to keep him afloat. I think we're going to send more money. At least that's what Scott Besent, the treasurer secretary has said. And Bukheli, the president of El Salvador, has become a household name in the United States because of his relationship with Donald Trump. All of this is to say that the Latin American penetration and influence in our government is very, very strong. And it appears as though they're throwing their weight behind some kind of a regime change in Venezuela. That's one. The second is this three little letter agency called the CIA. And the CIA is always up for regime change. And for those of you who know your history over the last, you know, since 1947 over the last 75 years or so, the CIA has launched a number of regime changes all over the world. But in particular in Latin America, one of which was in Chile, where under the indirect direct direction of Henry Kissinger, they made sure that I end day was removed and replaced in a military coup. In 1973, now some of the CIA brethren and others in the US government believe that this is part of the mandate of the United States as part of the Monroe doctrine and the Roosevelt corollary that we as the superpower in the Western hemisphere, we can interdict as we see fit. Well, I'm here to tell you that Latin America collectively doesn't agree with that. [1:28:18] Rebecca Hargraves And there's actually tremendous anti-Americanism that I would argue is feverish across Latin America today directed at the United States, directed at white Americans in particular. [1:28:29] Cameron M Some of that is what's playing out on the streets in Los Angeles and Chicago as we speak between Anglo-Americans, Americans like us. And Latinos, Latinos who in general tend to be very nationalistic, especially Mexicans, and this is created a fault line inside the United States. That fault line is also playing a role in South America. Then you have the neo-conservatives. And the neo-conservatives are always up for a proxy war. And they want to counter Chinese penetration in South America. So the Chinese are actually building infrastructure, trade routes, supply chains, and negotiating trade deals across South America. So the neo-conservatives said about that. And their view is while we can create a proxy war against China and Venezuela, the same way we have in Ukraine, against Russia, and in the Middle East by proxy of Israel and Iran. [1:29:28] Dave Reilly Episode 86 You see how all this puts itself together. The problem is, all of those wars have cost us immensely. They've all blown up in our face. And it's almost certainly the case that that will happen in Venezuela as well. [1:29:40] Cameron M Why do I say that? Well, there are no good dictators in Venezuela. There are no good people down there per se that you're going to put in power arbitrarily that will exercise Venezuelan policies in a way that will benefit the United States directly. It's just a delusion. But that's only one of the problems. In addition to that, you have a country that is seemingly ungovernable. It's not just that you have narco cartels. It's not just that you have gorillas. You also have terrain that's very mountainous, that's jungle, that's very difficult to control logistically or otherwise. This is in part why you have these crimes into kids that run rampant all across the region. The issue for the United States is that we have a massive flow of drugs and people from south of the border to north of the border. But solving that problem has always been about dealing with Mexico and Mexico has been our historic enemy. Remember that in the 19th century and the 1800s, we fought basically two wars against Mexico. One was to establish the Republic of Texas in the 1830s and then secondly was in the 1840s. And that war defined what this country would be. It demarcated the white civilization north of the Rio Grande and everything else in the south. And make no mistake, that demarcation is very clear when you go south of the border. So this is a mess. This is going to be a quagmire. And it's not clear to me at all how we are going to benefit from this, particularly at a time when we have a debt crisis, when we have wars in eastern Europe, the Middle East, and we have what I think are the makings of a war between Mexico and the United States that's unfolding in the US. So add it all up and this is what they would say in the military. And this is a technical term, a cluster buck. [1:31:40] Dave Reilly And to think we could have spent that $20 billion feeding our massively obese black population. What a waste of money. [1:31:47] Cameron M That's right. Unbelievable. [1:31:50] Dave Reilly Can you pull up 13 just so I can. Also, I wanted to add there's also this kind of other. Well, there's just something else that can be said and added that adds some context to this whole thing. And that is that Nicholas Maduro is anti Zionist hard core. And I think that there is a very strong subtext to that where the Israelis don't want to tolerate any governments out there that have any level of sympathy for what's going on in Gaza. Because I mean, if it was just about drugs, why are we fucking invading China? Right. I mean, where's the fentanyl coming from? [1:32:26] Rebecca Hargraves I'm seeing Neocons talk about it. [1:32:28] Dave Reilly Well, he actually is involved in some drug pattern. Like we have never given a shit about this before. And by the way, can somebody ask Gary Webb about the United States drug traffic? [1:32:37] Rebecca Hargraves I know. I know. Episode 86 [1:32:38] Dave Reilly I mean, how about we go clean up Langley? I think they've got a bunch of coke dealers hanging out. These Neocons act like we're so upstanding, our government is so upstanding that we're willing to root out drug problems based on our strong sense of morality or something that's retarded. We don't do that without serious self interest. Yes. Sorry. Cameron, I cut you off. Yeah, I know. [1:32:59] Cameron M And I actually talked about this in my sub stack as well because the opposition leader, who it seems the CIA is getting behind as the perspective replacement for Maduro is a woman named Maria Carina Machado. [1:33:15] Dave Reilly Now Maria Carina Machado is actually a CIA familiar as far as I can tell who has been pushing for green change in Venezuela for over 20 years. [1:33:28] Cameron M And part of her efforts were funded by the national endowment for democracy. She also has ties to these railings as well. So Dave is right on point in that regard. And this again raises real questions about what the hell we're doing at whose behest are we flirting with the idea of regime change? And remember, I didn't even mention the potential collateral damage in the form of casualties to US forces if they go ashore. That could absolutely happen. Remember that the cartels are very well funded and they have military great equipment. And Maduro also has backing from the Russians and also ties to the Chinese. So this is another quagmire that we should absolutely be avoiding. Let's refocus on the border. [1:34:14] Dave Reilly Let's get control of the illegal immigration problem, which is to the tune of tens of millions inside our country. [1:34:20] Cameron M And let's go to war with the Sinaloa cartel. Let's do that. Let's set aside Maduro and Venezuela. [1:34:28] Dave Reilly And this is something of a Trump specific. [1:34:31] Rebecca Hargraves I mean, we've seen this with world leaders before, but Trump has really ramped up the transactional nature of his relationship with South American government. [1:34:38] Dave Reilly So this from the Guardian, US government records reveal Latin American leaders have spent millions hiring Washington's top lobbyist to push for a laundry list of requests, free trade deals, security assistance, energy investments to be heard by the Trump administration. Since the lead up to Trump's election, Department of Justice records show that at least 10 countries in Latin America and the Caribbean have registered their top officials and envoys as foreign principles under Farah. Episode 86 [1:35:02] Rebecca Hargraves Under Trump, we've seen a more directly transactional approach to influencing government. [1:35:06] Dave Reilly The very personal relationships that have developed with the far right in Latin America have given direct access to the White House. I wouldn't say this influence peddling is unprecedented, but the magnitude is. There are reasons that we're doing this, and I think it is a quagmire. We have too many irons in the fire. [1:35:24] Rebecca Hargraves We could maybe deal with one or two of these situations going on, but collectively I think that this might spell ruin. [1:35:31] Dave Reilly Yeah, not with China having like, you know, their hand around their balls. And with what they're doing with the precious metals market, what they're doing with the rare earth metals market. Bro, pick a fucking lane. Get your last minute super chats into the backlash dot net slash super chat right here on my YouTube channel at real backlash on that YouTube channel. [1:35:52] Rebecca Hargraves Somebody just message and they said you should have talked about atlas during the Ireland segment. [1:35:57] Dave Reilly So you could talk about your your pot of gold finding your pot of gold and like, damn, that's racist. That would have been really good. Well, I will not tolerate any anti Irish or anti Italian racist. Italian. [1:36:11] Rebecca Hargraves But before we get to super chats, let's talk a little bit about gold. [1:36:15] Dave Reilly Okay, let's do it. Let's let's I was going to throw it to LP to see if he had anything to add. I don't do to you a politics, man. I'm a dearer should have kissed the wall. [1:36:26] Rebecca Hargraves Geez. [1:36:28] Dave Reilly Well, yeah, so we got gold is kind of sell is funny by the way. I don't know if I can pull up. Let me pull up the text message. We're going to we're going to do some text message doxing here. What's Kenzie? No, no, no, not with Kenzie with Alex from the PNW gorilla. Where is it? Is it in here? Oh, yeah. So you'll remember that on that episode, I jokingly said, hey, why don't you sell your gold and buy Bitcoin and look what fucking happened that day. Gold tank and people rotate it. You need to sell people that you cannot give them financial advice. I cannot give you financial advice. I don't do that. [1:37:12] Rebecca Hargraves Episode 86 Just look at his glasses. Do you want to trust this guy? Look at that. [1:37:16] Dave Reilly Geez, it's so bright in here. But anyway, we do we do have gold and silver. You know, they're cooling off a little bit, but this is not going to be stopping anytime soon. China is definitely remanitizing gold at this point. Of course. They're persistently bidding. And the government basically has one way to fix all of its problems, and that is printing more money. Yeah, of course. So if you've got money in the US dollar, and you don't want to be fucking poor without a pot to piss in on EBT, by the time that your grandkids are your age, you're probably going to want to put a little bit of money into gold and silver. And you can do that with our friends at AtlasBullion.com slash backlash. They are the Internet's premier dealers for gold and silver. They've got subscription plans. You can get signed up as low as $55 a month. You can get gold subscriptions for as low as $200 a month. But you can also call Kenzie at AtlasBullion and arrange for a bulk order, if that's something you like. And by the way, I was on the phone with her earlier, and she told me that she is moving. They're moving their headquarters. I guess they got a new warehouse or something. And so if she's taking a little bit longer to get back to you, it's because they've been extremely busy. [1:38:31] Rebecca Hargraves It's because she hates you personally, and that's why she's not getting back to you. [1:38:35] Dave Reilly The audience. Probably. It's because you're annoying. [1:38:38] Rebecca Hargraves Yeah, stop annoying her. [1:38:40] Dave Reilly But anyway, yeah, gold and silver is, I don't think that this bull run is anywhere near over. That this is just like the initial signalings that the post 1971 fiat dollar is on the brink of collapse. China's got us by the balls. And, you know, you got to protect yourself. Protect your wealth. Go to AtlasBullion.com. [1:39:01] Rebecca Hargraves Let's talk Antelope Hill, too, before we get to Superchats. [1:39:04] Dave Reilly Okay. We can do that, too. Antelope Hill, by the way, they have a brand new book out called Rise of the Reich, which is, I believe, that was like official propaganda from the German government back in the day, but they are republishing it because they are fighting to keep history alive against the regime of anti-white censorship and to publish a new generation of dissident, radical and right-wing researchers, philosophers, polemicists, and writers. They have an eclectic catalog that includes veteran right-wing authors in academics like Kerry Bolton, Dr. Ricardo Dushan, and Paul Cursey, as well as newer figures like Lord Miles Routledge of Afghanistan, Josh Neal, and Christian Seikor. In addition to a long list of original translations and modern reprints of otherwise inaccessible historical works from areas such as fascist, Italy, national socialist Germany, and even medieval Europe. Their original works include groundbreaking investigations into the causes and funding behind transgenderism and the opioid crisis books on Christian nationalism and American folktales. Additionally, Antelope Hill contributes to the regeneration of our culture and the rebirth of our family values through their top quality fiction, including books like Let Them Look West and World Separated, and a collection of beautifully illustrated and Episode 86 wholesome children's books. Whatever your interest is, you're bound to find books that you like at Antelope Hill, all professionally published and with cover art that will grace your bookshelves, so help us and help our people by checking out companies that share our values. Please visit Antelope Hill Publishing.com today. [1:40:33] Rebecca Hargraves Thank you so much, Antelope Hill. [1:40:35] Dave Reilly I've done it. [1:40:36] Rebecca Hargraves Let's get to some. [1:40:37] Dave Reilly Do you guys don't have a promo code or whatever that you... I think we're supposed to. They're supposed to be like a 10% discount code. Yeah. Well, there's a promo code LP. I've heard. [1:40:47] Rebecca Hargraves For anybody who's wondering at Antelope Hill's. [1:40:49] Dave Reilly There you go. Use promo code LP and you'll get 10% off of your purchase. [1:40:54] Cameron M I guess you're purchasing. [1:40:56] Dave Reilly We're giving away three books. You're on the back. [1:41:00] Rebecca Hargraves No. [1:41:01] Dave Reilly Yeah, we've really got to work on that. Yeah, totally. There's some sort of a super code for us or whatever. [1:41:07] Rebecca Hargraves Anyway, last chance to get in your super chats. [1:41:10] Dave Reilly We're reading $10 and up. Do you want me to start with my YouTube channel? If you want to. Sure. I was going to say, I think we're going to be slammed with super chats tonight actually. [1:41:19] Rebecca Hargraves Episode 86 All right, let's get to it. Don Browning says awesome guess. Thank you so much. How much? [1:41:23] Dave Reilly $10. [1:41:24] Rebecca Hargraves Okay. Thank you, Don. [1:41:26] Cameron M Is this one of yours? Yeah. We're way more than $10, man. [1:41:29] Dave Reilly Come on. [1:41:31] Rebecca Hargraves Does he trails no note? [1:41:32] Dave Reilly Thank you, Troy. Same. [1:41:34] Rebecca Hargraves We appreciate it. The winged hasar says I would like to see the citizens from a strong support system for defecting [1:41:38] Dave Reilly the military and police who are choosing between their livelihood and the right choice thoughts. I would like to see the citizens form a star. I said, I remember that incorrectly. Yeah, I mean, there have to be like Alpisa. Can you imagine the inner conflict you would be experiencing if you weren't a total psychopath? If you were in some kind of enforcement agency in any country in the West right now. Sure. Well, and this is one of the big things we were talking about on the show a couple of months ago, when it comes to the border crisis, the ice thing that's going on is like nobody wants to discuss or confront how deeply penetrated our military is by the cartels. Like those people are going to be in there like, do we go against the Mexicans or those are my people type of thing. We've got an issue. I remember Rebecca, you were even talking about the numbers, but I think it's some base in California and how diverse it was or is it something like 25 percent? [1:42:34] Rebecca Hargraves 25 percent white. Right. I think so. Something like that. Yeah, I can't remember the exact statistics, but we're talking about that. [1:42:40] Cameron M I had a question for LP because I was up in Vancouver as you guys remember earlier in the year. [1:42:46] Dave Reilly Episode 86 Vancouver. [1:42:47] Cameron M I was up there in Hong Kong. That's right. Boy, you ain't lying, man. Having lived in Hong Kong, it absolutely reminded me of that. When I was up in Vancouver, I was at an investment conference. A lot of people who were there, they worked in the mining industry. They were from Saskatchewan. I was surprised at the extent to which they were pretty savvy. A lot of them sounded exactly like us on this program. I guess my question for your LP is up in Canada. I know it's different province by province, coast by coast, but what do you think it's going to take to really push Canadians over the edge up there? In other words, to get the police or the military to sort of side against the government, what do you think? [1:43:36] Rebecca Hargraves I'll tell you, man, I'm not optimistic on that front. [1:43:40] Dave Reilly The people you talking to, I or not, the people I've been talking to, everyone I know in Canada is a retarded shit-lib. The boomers are completely a lost cause, like 100%. There are little pockets of people who know what's up, but it's just not the general trend. [1:43:58] Rebecca Hargraves They're behind a lot of places. [1:44:01] Dave Reilly To answer the super chat question, we need more organizing everywhere. We need more networking. Something as simple as the meetup that you guys are doing is like a good start to meet people in real life and start to network and stuff like that. I think some places are more ahead, Australia. [1:44:21] Rebecca Hargraves They've been doing a lot of that. Canada, there are guys doing that. There's, I don't know, you guys know Fairyman and McKenzie, Jeremy McKenzie. There are guys doing that, but I'm just, I don't know, man, it's so bad. [1:44:36] Dave Reilly Yeah, by the way, that meetup Monday at Prairie Pavilion in Cortalain. If you Google Las Brazos Tacos, it'll take you right there. It's Las Brazos. Yeah, they've got the best tacos, man. So yeah, we'll be there at 5 p.m. until we close it down. All right. So just plugging that one more time. Make sure you come out, especially if you're in like Spokane. Who's so murderous? [1:44:58] Rebecca Hargraves This is Thunderstorm, fake left and right. False dichotomy is collapsing. [1:45:01] Dave Reilly The pressures of reality are as the so-called third position rises from former left right. [1:45:07] Rebecca Hargraves Episode 86 Can't buy class and will find themselves followed. [1:45:13] Dave Reilly Is it my cadence? I think you're getting more practice. Have you ever been doing this for yourself? [1:45:22] Rebecca Hargraves Yeah, a lot of the time. [1:45:23] Dave Reilly Okay, fake left right, false dichotomy is collapsing under the pressures of reality as the so-called third position rises former left right. [1:45:28] Rebecca Hargraves The former left right can't buy class and will find themselves followed. Is it my cadence? [1:45:34] Dave Reilly I think it's your cadence. Yeah, I think you need more practice if you haven't been doing that see I've at least been doing this for a cat Respector is it? Cat respect. We'd have a guy in my channel sends these like he's having a stroke every time We got a guy like that. Thank you for that thunderstorm general grievance can't watch live Which is wanted to say good morning What are the hell are you based that it's morning? I don't know Russia Isn't it a morning in London right now India? No, it's morning in India right now. All right, this is choice. It's morning. It's morning where I am [1:46:13] Rebecca Hargraves What are you talking about? [1:46:15] Cameron M Learning in central Europe. Yeah, true true [1:46:17] Dave Reilly Troy says seems like a sia part to believe ebt and joyors are making plans for the future. That is true They do have famously poor future orientation that part of their brain just does not exist All right, I'm good over here. I just I just wanted to say one thing about that last [1:46:35] Cameron M I think I understood what he was saying about the third choice or something There was a very compelling Discussion I frankly thought it was one of the more enlightening discussions. I've seen in political theory if you will for a long long time Between Alexander Dugan and Nick Land I have everybody checked that out But what was remarkable about it is that both Nick Land and Alexander Dugan and they have different views And a very different sort of logical framework [1:47:08] Dave Reilly That informs that view but both of them So Dugan calls it the fourth political theory and Nick Land calls it the summit both of them basically arrived at the same conclusion [1:47:22] Cameron M Episode 86 Namely that the structure of governance that we've experienced [1:47:28] Dave Reilly More or less since the enlightenment Which obviously favors the sort of Wigish neo-liberal you know this this sort of [1:47:38] Cameron M Democratic welfare state that we've got that that systems over [1:47:43] Dave Reilly That it's it's not so much that it's imploding [1:47:46] Cameron M It is imploding but that we are now entering into some kind of new political environment now I have been talking about this since the inception of the podcast right I call it succession But all of that is to say that What is very important for all of you to do is to sort of let go of the Ben Shapiro Matt Walsh Charlie Kirk framework because it doesn't work anymore It's spoken and we're going to have to reorganize politically [1:48:16] Dave Reilly We're going to have to overhaul constitutional forms of government [1:48:20] Cameron M That's more or less what Nick Land and Alexander Dugan we're getting at that's where we're headed And that's what's unfolding that's what's erupting in the street across the western world And I'll add one more thing to this um and Dave actually sent me this tweet In part because we were talking about the collapse of the fifth republic Which is something we've been talking about for a long time on the show it hasn't gotten much play in the United States [1:48:45] Dave Reilly But a descendant of the bourbon kings in France [1:48:51] Cameron M Um publicly has stated that he supports reinstituting the monarchy in France and putting an end to the fifth republic now I'm not suggesting that that's exactly where they're going to go But what I am saying is that this sort of legacy politics as we understood it that's over and whether you call it Succession or you call it the summit or the fourth political theory This is the direction we are headed and that is not the apocalypse for the west It's not the end It's going to be the emergence of something new and what I think is going to happen is it will be the reaffirmation of christendom In some way shape or form with some kind of new political structure or theory that's where we're headed So very enlightening question and check out that debate between Nick Land and Alexander Dugan I highly recommend it [1:49:42] Dave Reilly Good lord look at that man. Oh, he's gorgeous Beautiful man Oh, yeah, yeah, he is the direct that is Louis Alphonse de Bourbon he is The direct descendant of Saint Louis the ninth who burned every single copy of the Talmud in Paris. Oh wow So I have some hope for France. Maybe they can pull their Episode 86 head out Yeah, that guy should be leading an entire country look at that nice We general grievance. It was good morning copers. Oh, that's my catch [1:50:12] Rebecca Hargraves Okay, that makes more sense. Sorry about that very nice starting over on entropy [1:50:16] Dave Reilly I'm gonna have to do a refresh because this thing it was going and then it stopped so entropy sucks It's wonderful and I'm very thankful that we have it. I don't know what you're talking about Queen's borough bridge enjoyer sent $10 and two cents as a thought experiment Imagine antifa defeats the US government and takes power after an intense struggle session The local commissar forces blonde to keep streaming as punishment her only co-host options are Will Stansell and Jack Cruz Who does she pick yes? It do be like that Mrs. blonde will Stansell because [1:50:48] Rebecca Hargraves That would make a that would make for hilarious content And I know that our audience has all seen it [1:50:52] Dave Reilly But if you're not watching the Emily Yuka series on Will Stansell is the funniest thing I've ever seen [1:50:57] Rebecca Hargraves It's going mega viral. We're having her on in November as well [1:51:00] Dave Reilly You know, it's incredible that the her little Will Stansell show got Like one one million views. Yeah, it's like go back and look at the numbers for like the Simpsons when it was on TV Yeah, yeah, that's it's pulling. Oh, yeah, just as many viewers as network TV shows that had like a huge staff of promotion marketing department She she spent like $137 on Sora AI Emily Yuka's is also Mensa [1:51:27] Rebecca Hargraves Is she yeah, James? I love Emily [1:51:30] Dave Reilly I'd be a little bit careful about comparing Twitter impressions to actual TV rating Right, right, but still we love Will Stansell never the less it do be like the high IQ point there Yes, it do I IQ point Unreconstructed yeoman sent $10 Cameron right is an event in a relevant term. We are becoming we are white nationalist Dave look at my based spaghetti nigger in the mainstream Republican politics Who's clearly more North African than he is Italian say based things off camera and then resign for it [1:52:06] Rebecca Hargraves That is so true [1:52:07] Dave Reilly Cameron almost audible face palm [1:52:13] Rebecca Hargraves Episode 86 You guys really cut through it that must have hurt are your feelings hurt because that person is totally right. I don't have feelings [1:52:19] Dave Reilly I was thinking it a little bit [1:52:22] Rebecca Hargraves It's [1:52:24] Dave Reilly Man sent $10 LP have you recovered from Mondays twitch con fallout yet the crowds reaction seemed like its own kind of horror show Makes you wonder if empathy got left behind in the merch line What is this I just saw a few tweets on it. I did a little segment on this twitch streamer who got assaulted Some guy walked up and like grabbed her and kissed her at a meet and greet [1:52:46] Rebecca Hargraves And I and everyone the shout was like good [1:52:48] Dave Reilly but she deserves it, the stupid whore. [1:52:50] Rebecca Hargraves And I like crashed out of it. I was like, come on, guys. [1:52:54] Dave Reilly I clipped it and put it on the YouTube channel [1:52:55] Rebecca Hargraves and 99% of the comments are also like that. [1:52:59] Dave Reilly So I've just kind of, I give up. I don't know what it is, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe she is a stupid whore. When she is a stupid whore, that's the right thing. I don't really know her, but some people said no. Some people said she's not really... [1:53:11] Rebecca Hargraves Wait, somebody just came up and kissed her? Yeah. A walk-it-off girl. [1:53:15] Dave Reilly It's not that big of a deal. Yeah. Isn't that like rate? [1:53:19] Rebecca Hargraves Okay, all right, come on. Episode 86 [1:53:20] Dave Reilly I think it's more, the issue at hand was more the security problems could, like she could have got stabbed. It's kind of like what it was. [1:53:27] Rebecca Hargraves But she did it and said she got a kiss on the lips. [1:53:30] Dave Reilly It just, you know... What if they had herpes? [1:53:32] Rebecca Hargraves Who, everybody has oral herpes? [1:53:35] Dave Reilly I don't know. You wouldn't know, 90% of the population has it. You mean you wouldn't know? You wouldn't know. [1:53:39] Rebecca Hargraves I don't have that. No, her had a hold. [1:53:40] Dave Reilly It doesn't matter. [1:53:41] Cameron M Most people... For the use of a critic, Dave. [1:53:44] Dave Reilly Most people, most people, this is true. Most people get it when they're young children at HSV1 and they never have an outbreak. If you can hear me send the meteor now. You can just... Or Putin, Putin, if you can hear me... Are you even listening to me? [1:53:59] Rebecca Hargraves They get it when they're children from kissing grandparents and stuff. [1:54:02] Dave Reilly Or they get it at a mittensitba pay, you know? [1:54:05] Rebecca Hargraves No, that's the other kind of herpes. [1:54:07] Dave Reilly Oh my God. Oh, good boy. Anyway, yeah. [1:54:10] Rebecca Hargraves Episode 86 Now everyone's gonna think I have herpes. Thanks a lot, Dave. [1:54:12] Dave Reilly You're welcome. Queensborough Bridge Enjoyer sent $10, speaking of MLK, many people are saying that a future episode on this topic would be interesting. In particular, the 1983 filibuster of a MLK holiday bill would be great place to focus. Senator Helms read the work of Sam Francis on the Senate floor, which is how a lot of MLK info got out. Get the fuck out of here, really? I did not know that. Sam Francis, RIP, based. Very good. We've also got, get your hands off me. You dang dirty apes and $10. How much can the US use the spoils of war with the drug cartels to pay off the national debt? [1:54:56] Rebecca Hargraves They won't. [1:54:56] Dave Reilly $37 trillion. I don't think that- I don't think we're gonna, yeah. [1:55:00] Rebecca Hargraves No, man. [1:55:01] Dave Reilly I don't think we're gonna get that. [1:55:03] Cameron M Well, the assumption into that question is that they're not already plundering those coffers. [1:55:08] Dave Reilly Certainly people have suggested that the CIA [1:55:12] Cameron M has dipped its ugly hands in that abyss. [1:55:17] Dave Reilly I don't know. It's an interesting question to be sure, but my guess is it's not enough. [1:55:23] Cameron M It's not enough to pay for EBT cards for everybody. [1:55:27] Dave Reilly Very true. And so we've got a very nice $25 Super Chat [1:55:32] Rebecca Hargraves from Nice sort of Zach. [1:55:34] Dave Reilly Episode 86 Is that how I say this? I'm not sure. It said, hi, finally caught you live. First time ever, Super Chat. Sorry, Blonde, but I have a Bitcoin and gold-related question. [1:55:43] Rebecca Hargraves Ah! [1:55:44] Dave Reilly I've checked out your recommended sellers for both, but neither cater to Canada. Then he sent another $25 Super Chat saying, could you recommend Bitcoin gold sellers to Canada? I'm also looking for a cold storage wallet. [1:55:59] Rebecca Hargraves Thanks. Well, as a matter of fact, [1:56:01] Dave Reilly I'd love to answer this question. For Bitcoin in Canada, you want to go to bullbittcoin.com. They're based in Canada. So what is Bitcoin like a national? It's on the internet. What do you mean you need a Canadian seller? I don't even know. Well, no, I mean, it's true. So like with Strike Bitcoin, River Bitcoin, and like Bitfinex, they are not available in Canada. You can't get on the exchanges in Canada. Is Coinbase like a dirty word or what? No, absolutely. I got them from Coinbase. Yeah, no, no. And Gemini. Buckcoinbase. And so bull. For donating money to Andrew Anglin. So bullbittcoin is who you want to go to. Very reputable company. They're awesome. They use lightning and liquid as well as on chain. Highly recommend them. When it comes to your gold, actually, I've got a recommendation there. From Kenzie because, let's see, they can't import from Atlas Bullion to Canada. It's just, you're going to get hit with fines. It's going to be a real problem. But Kitco is a Canadian company. And they sell gold and silver. And so I believe they're based in Melbourne maybe. I'm not sure. Are these people giving us any money? They're not giving us any money. We're helping out a friend here, okay? They add some questions. Kitco is a Canadian-based gold company. You can buy from them. And then as far as getting a hardware wallet, you do want to use our link for the block stream Jade Plus. You can find that link on our website under affiliate links Bitcoin hardware. That's where you want to go. And so I think I have successfully answered those questions, which I wanted to answer. Thank you for asking that question. LP, what do you thought of some Bitcoin? [1:57:56] Rebecca Hargraves Don't ask. [1:57:57] Cameron M I didn't know I was Coinbase. [1:58:00] Dave Reilly I didn't know I didn't know that was bad. Bro, get out of my hair in this for the first time. I'm here in this for the first time. Dude, I'm a no-coin normie according to Jack Cruz. And even I know not to use Coinbase. Yeah, Coinbase is. [1:58:10] Rebecca Hargraves Episode 86 As soon as I got banned on Coinbase, and I tweeted about everyone's like, why the fuck were you on Coinbase? [1:58:15] Dave Reilly You stupid bitch. When they banned you, do you lose your money? No, no. But it was like, because I'm worried now they're going to send on this clip and be like, ban that. It was a whole thing to get my money out though. Yeah. From Gemini, actually. Yeah, I mean, no, you don't want to. If you want, if you live in America, and you want to have Bitcoin, use River Bitcoin. We've got the hat down there. There's an affiliate link on our website. River Bitcoin is very based and awesome. And the owner, Alex Interlishman, very, very good guy. Correct opinions about 9-11. Very good. Okay. The orthodoxer sent $10 just here to say that Dave is awesome. Yeah. Love you, man. And LP, I saw Frank Stone was on Xbox Game Pass. I pay nothing for it. Is it worth it? [1:58:59] Cameron M I'm not sure. [1:59:00] Dave Reilly If you get it for free, sure. I have a play through. It's not a very good game, but free is about the right price. Dave, I saw a comment about you in the live chat and it said, [1:59:10] Rebecca Hargraves Dave is like licorice. [1:59:12] Dave Reilly You don't want to eat it at first because it's gross. [1:59:15] Rebecca Hargraves But then eventually you're like, okay, I'll eat more. David, yeah, I think that's Dave, you wear people down and I think that that's great. [1:59:23] Dave Reilly See, this is the kind of feedback that I want. I had too much positive comments about the video I put out yesterday. [1:59:28] Rebecca Hargraves That's a positive comment. [1:59:30] Dave Reilly Okay. Domestic tourist sent $25. Good afternoon, copers. Would love to see my boy Andrew Edwards on the backlash, phenomenal author. And sorry, I called you a baby that one time LP, unbanned me, please. I'll think about it. You'll think about it. Dr. Sean McGuire sent $25. High LP. It's Dr. Sean again. I feel like you and I had a real breakthrough on our last call and appointment. Keep facing up to your fears and remember, you are stronger than that coaxial cable and it's not your fault. I told them last night, this is like a meme, I was telling them a dinner, yeah. Thank you for that. Thank you for that. That your dad used to beat you with coaxing. It happened. Well, it was a one time thing. That was a one time. Didn't you say you deserved it though? Episode 86 [2:00:16] Rebecca Hargraves No, I never said that. I definitely did not. [2:00:20] Dave Reilly Oh my gosh. And here's the question we've all been waiting for, friends. It's book track grooves. He sent $10. I hit the crit. Have you ever written a horse? [2:00:31] Rebecca Hargraves I have. When I was younger, it's been a long time, but yes, actually my uncle and my uncle had a farm [2:00:38] Dave Reilly and they had horses and he's also a bass player, jazz player, my uncle, the farmer. So they're pretty cool. And then I think I've been to like one of those places where you go on the trail, you pay to go on a horse ride or whatever one time too. So yes. Yes, technically. Nice. Well, that's good. Running a horse is good. The rest of the superchets says Norway swept Israel aside five to zero as Holland scores hat [2:01:02] Rebecca Hargraves trick and soccer. [2:01:04] Dave Reilly Rebecca, make some Irish stew for the guys. Okay. 10, 10 would approve. Well, I mean, it's just regular stew and you put Guinness in it, right? I guess. We're definitely getting into that. My wife has been making stews. Oh, it's stew season. It is stew season. Oh, yeah. Ortho brosant $10. I'm jealous of LP being a high IQ American. I wish I could pledge allegiance to an Israel first ghetto ridden nation. Mensa doesn't check if you know how to use a computer or if you have a floppy mic stand. Why are you guys so mean? First of all, something people like to do is impersonate other people with power chat. And so like that might not even be the real orthodox or people are like trying to get me mad at him. Well, I have noticed though, because I have a $3 minimum and orthodox are always sent [2:01:48] Rebecca Hargraves $3. [2:01:49] Dave Reilly Superchats to me. Maybe I need to raise it to 10 if he's good if that's what if he's willing to do that. Maybe I've been selling myself short. Yeah. I think so. That's funny. You've got a good crowd. You've got a good crowd. I do. [2:02:02] Cameron M Roberts and $50. [2:02:05] Dave Reilly Thank you for the big super chat. Blonde. Say the word pagan or vague. Do I detect an accent? Even the newly minted genius American Chad sounds pure. Are you telling me I survived a simple duel for a foreign spy? I slapped a nigga in the face with a glove for God's sake. Great guess. Okay. [2:02:23] Rebecca Hargraves Episode 86 It's a Midwestern thing. I have been told I say pagan, bagel, and vague weird. Yeah. I don't know what to tell you. [2:02:31] Dave Reilly It's a bagel. It's a bagel. It's a bagel. Bagel. [2:02:35] Rebecca Hargraves Bagel. [2:02:36] Dave Reilly Wrong. [2:02:37] Rebecca Hargraves I don't know what to tell you here. [2:02:38] Dave Reilly I can't do it the correct way. [2:02:39] Rebecca Hargraves However, they do use Midwestern American dialects to teach people English and foreign countries because apparently it is the purist of all the dialects. [2:02:47] Dave Reilly I don't want to hear it from you. You filthy wop. Hey, listen, listen. I'm just saying it's not the right one. No chuckles from you. [2:02:54] Rebecca Hargraves You mix. Both of you get out of here. [2:02:57] Dave Reilly I'm mostly Anglo. Okay. [2:03:00] Rebecca Hargraves Whatever. Cameron is the only person that is racially pure enough to be on the show. [2:03:04] Dave Reilly Post 23, me results immediately. [2:03:06] Cameron M Indian-Lindon parries a pretty Anglo name. [2:03:09] Rebecca Hargraves That's true. To my grandpa on my mom's side. Episode 86 [2:03:12] Dave Reilly He absconded with a, he had an affair with an Irish woman and got her pregnant and he wrote in his memoirs that the fact that she was Irish was like more of a scandal than the fact that he had an affair and got her pregnant. Was he married? [2:03:29] Rebecca Hargraves Yes. [2:03:30] Dave Reilly And then he had, they had some money but he was like disowned and he had to come to Canada and start over completely. [2:03:38] Rebecca Hargraves That's your family's origin story? That's on my mom's side. Oh. [2:03:42] Dave Reilly Listen, mom, dad, I know you're watching. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't your marriage considered interracial in 1976? You know, an Irish guy getting married to an Italian guy was kind of a no-no if memory serves. I wasn't around back then but they were. They would know. You worked? [2:04:01] Rebecca Hargraves Send me a text. [2:04:02] Dave Reilly I don't know. [2:04:03] Rebecca Hargraves Dave, shut up. Shut up about it. [2:04:05] Dave Reilly Okay. $88 and $10. Love all of you guys, LP, always hilarious, Cameron, always right. Have you guys seen that Murdoch Murdoch is doing a new AMA? We have the motion, white unity at every opportunity, not one step back. Oh, man. If we got more stansol and Murdoch Murdoch Murdoch will stansol crossover show, that would be stellar. Emily, you, because can you make that happen? Oh, that'd be funny. [2:04:34] Rebecca Hargraves I love Murdoch Murdoch. [2:04:35] Dave Reilly I'm stoked about the fact that they're still around in any capacity at all. [2:04:40] Rebecca Hargraves Episode 86 And we have no idea who they are. [2:04:41] Dave Reilly I think they had pretty good op-sec. [2:04:43] Rebecca Hargraves Yeah. [2:04:44] Dave Reilly So funny. What if we found out it was actually Emily again? What if we found out it was like an Indian? Oh, no. Don't ruin my day. Don't ruin my day. Don't ruin my day. Don't ruin my day. Vlad sent $10, rioting does nothing. They will riot for the weekend and the government shuts down until it passes, then it's back to the African-Arab rapists and their handlers opening the gates until the IRA gets back to it. There will be more of the same. Well, listen, I think rioting does a little bit. I mean, at least it did in America when the George Floyd rioted. [2:05:17] Rebecca Hargraves You can't do that to me. [2:05:21] Dave Reilly Stop it. I'm not even drinking. [2:05:23] Rebecca Hargraves I don't know. [2:05:24] Dave Reilly I think rioting has an impact for sure. I don't know if it's good or advisable necessarily. It's dangerous. We saw the same thing happen in the UK after that guy stabbed those three little girls, which is what they ended up making that adolescence thing about it, but a lot of those people ended up in jail. Yeah, don't. I mean, UK. And that was, there was a big civil war on the right about, should you like, should you encourage this or not? Because a lot of people did end up in jail. Some of these Irish people are going to end up in jail. I said you clip. We didn't watch it, but there was the police took. There was a citizen journalist, you know, a guy with a phone was taking footage. And the police came up and confiscated his devices. This one? No, that was an old man. Yeah, presumably, that one, yeah, presumably they want to look through the footage for people to arrest, right? Yeah, here. Let's take a look at this. [2:06:19] Rebecca Hargraves We're standing up. [2:06:20] Cameron M Irish people standing up for, I don't need your services now, if you don't mind. [2:06:26] Rebecca Hargraves What's this? What's this? [2:06:28] Cameron M Episode 86 A guard here investigating a criminal damage act. Your alive? A official patrol vehicle. Yes, he is. Maybe they aren't so conflicted. Yeah? [2:06:36] Dave Reilly It is believed that your electronic devices contain evidence for that investigation. So it's now being seized on the Section 7 of Section 7 of Section 8 of Section 8. [2:06:43] Cameron M Look at this, guys. Look at this, your alive. No, if you feel alive, can I get your number? Yeah, it's leave me six straight. I'm your calm, Bally Firmigar, say to them. If you feel it's compiling my order, you will be arrested for an offensive. Do you need to get a warrant for that? [2:06:53] Rebecca Hargraves No, I don't. [2:06:54] Cameron M You don't. The criminal justice public order act. You will be arrested. [2:06:57] Dave Reilly No warrant. [2:06:58] Cameron M I'll be arrested if I think. Can I ring my solicitor? You can ring it. If you fail to comply with the direction, you'll be arrested and you can make phone call from station. Here we go. Here we go. It's now being seized. Sorry. [2:07:14] Rebecca Hargraves Thank you very much. Good lord. Thank you. [2:07:17] Dave Reilly So, I love the optics of rioting in the sense that it sends a message that I fully support, but it's a dangerous game. Yeah. If you have women, children, maybe not, maybe this is like a young man's game or something, I don't know. I don't know. [2:07:32] Rebecca Hargraves It's tough. [2:07:33] Cameron M Cool. I would say, so Robert Cheldini, who's a guy, I mentioned all the time, he wrote, influenced pre-swashing. I highly recommend his books. [2:07:42] Dave Reilly He says, and he's right, what's focal is not what's causal. Episode 86 [2:07:47] Cameron M This is not about the protest, right? [2:07:50] Dave Reilly The protests historically don't work, which I think is the point that you guys are making [2:07:55] Cameron M for the most part, that's true. But this is not about that, right? Ultimately, these people that are protesting, as I said earlier, why are they out there? They're out there because they believe in the democratic process. [2:08:06] Dave Reilly They believe that they can influence government to change its course. [2:08:11] Cameron M That's not going to happen. [2:08:13] Dave Reilly When protests transition to mass mobilization or into some kind of a movement, and by the way [2:08:19] Cameron M there is evidence that that's happening in the United Kingdom, I think it is happening [2:08:23] Dave Reilly all over the West. [2:08:25] Cameron M It's primarily online, but that doesn't make it impudent. It doesn't make it any less powerful, but it hasn't gotten to that next stage yet, in part because there's still some degree of residual trust in the government, however, as these protests continue and nothing does change, and the underlying causes only get worse, and we know that they will, right? There's still migrants coming into the United Kingdom and Ireland. There will be a lot more violence against Irish people, against English, so forth and so [2:08:58] Dave Reilly on. [2:08:59] Cameron M There will be more rape gangs, so forth and so on. That means that you're going to get an explosion. That's where we're headed, and that's a non-linear equation, right? [2:09:08] Dave Reilly You don't sort of trend into that. [2:09:11] Cameron M Episode 86 You hit a wall when the population has had enough. I'm simply suggesting that the protests or evidence that we're getting closer to [2:09:19] Dave Reilly the point where we've had enough. Yeah, I think you're right. By the way, we do have a verdict. In 1976, it was not considered interracial for an Irish man to marry an Italian girl. But when the Italian girl used prego instead of making homemade gravy, that was considered a disgrace. Thanks, mom. I like your parents already. [2:09:39] Cameron M They're very cool. [2:09:40] Dave Reilly They're great. We need to have my dad on the show sometime. Totally. Thomas Moore sent $11, the reason why the Irish police would never join the people because increasingly, the Irish police have become a graduate-based police force modeled on the English police force model they used to come from the working class. Now it's contempt. You know, it's the same shit in America too, this federalizing of the police. It used to be that you'd like live in a neighborhood, like, you know, the Italians had their own police. And I contribute to the new right, you know, you have like a beat cop that would go around and he'd actually know everybody, you know, nowadays, we get the Israelis training all of our sports. [2:10:22] Rebecca Hargraves Right. [2:10:23] Dave Reilly They have like limits on how tall you can be in the police force now, by the way, they like make it so that like short people become cops, and they've all gotten the polling in complexes. And, you know, how do you know that, Dave? What? I don't know what we're talking about. [2:10:39] Cameron M But anyway, I don't mean to belabor the point here, but this is another statement that self-evidently false. And it's false because you're, again, you're attributing to people logic. [2:10:52] Dave Reilly People do not make decisions based on logic. [2:10:55] Cameron M They make decisions based on emotion and based on shifts in power dynamics. You better believe that if the government runs out of money, or its legitimacy continues to unwind, continues to unravel, and more and more people support the protesters, that's [2:11:10] Dave Reilly when you're going to start to see police switch sides. [2:11:13] Cameron M This is not about ideology, okay? Episode 86 [2:11:16] Dave Reilly This is about power, and this is about the emotional swings of the crowd. [2:11:22] Cameron M All of that in my view is trending in our direction. In part, for reasons that I have nothing to do with politics, because we're running out of money, right? Because we can't afford to subsidize the welfare state. [2:11:34] Dave Reilly We can't afford to pay the police so forth and so on. That is ultimately what's going to cause these people to switch sides. [2:11:42] Rebecca Hargraves Not an ideological shift, right? [2:11:45] Cameron M Police, army, whomever, they want to get paid, and they want to work for whichever side is going to win. [2:11:52] Rebecca Hargraves That's what this is about. [2:11:54] Dave Reilly True. We've got a nice super chat from James Cassatelli who sent $10 on the backlash YouTube channel, got a little motion over there now. As a half Irish, half Italian American myself, I find Rebecca's hatred of me very attractive. Stop getting turned on by me yelling at you. Yo, Jimbo, Rockford sent $10 on rumble. I think LP's spurging out on his audience is funnier than Fuentes spurging out on his audience. LP brings the venomous vitriol. I get really angry. You're just like hanging out. Everybody in the chat was like, why does he look so glum as he said? Really? I don't know. Are you sad? [2:12:35] Rebecca Hargraves Are you sad? No. [2:12:37] Dave Reilly I don't know. [2:12:38] Rebecca Hargraves Because if you're a childhood trauma, do you want to talk about it? [2:12:41] Dave Reilly I reject the accusations, the allegations, I'm not sad at all. But yeah, once every six weeks, I just fucking lose it, and I just start screaming at my chat. That's funny. Let's see. Thomas Morcent, $11. I think that I age mentioned the grooming gangs as the labor party is virtually imploding because each successive report is finding it increasingly difficult to avoid an ethnic element, and ministers can't choose between Episode 86 PC and reality. [2:13:14] Rebecca Hargraves Yeah. [2:13:15] Dave Reilly Thomas Mor, I'm liking your superchest tonight. Speaking of berating your audience, like this guy usually gets into arguments with us and you go back and forth at the very end of the show. Which is great because you just keep sending money. Keep sending us money. Appreciate so much. But tonight we're on the same page. I'm really, look, see, there it is. There it is. We got one more. Jamal sent $10. It do be like that, Mr. Stancell. We actually would do be like that sometimes. We got it. He sent in the superchat as I was read. So hold on, we got to see, there it is. Boom. Jamal $10. Yo, Jim Bo Rockford sent $15. Really enjoyed the special episode on dispensationalism, Dave. Jamal articulated the case better than I do and gave me lots of food for thought. Great work. You're welcome. You guys need to go back to berating him. It's disrupting the dynamic of the show. You have no idea. My ego is just... No. Radicalized by reality sent $50. [2:14:13] Cameron M Boom. [2:14:14] Dave Reilly Thank you for the big superchat. Hey guys, networking is desperately needed on the dissident right. I'll be visiting family in the CDA area next month. It would be great to have another meetup while I'm there sending my grossed sales from Idaho Tello in superchat. More to come. I don't understand what that means. He's been buying from Idaho Tello a bunch. [2:14:37] Rebecca Hargraves Yeah, sure. [2:14:38] Dave Reilly Shoot us an email. Absolutely. Info at thebacklash.net. If you want to get in touch with us offline or online or whatever the heck. If you want to send us some snail mail, by the way, some people like to do that. You can put a check in the mail and send it to PO Box 853 Post Falls Idaho 838. [2:14:57] Rebecca Hargraves Glam drinks in $10. [2:15:04] Dave Reilly Everybody was so awkward, but that sounds so fun. Come on, you son's a goi and do you want to live forever? [2:15:09] Rebecca Hargraves Is it that from Starship Troopers? [2:15:10] Dave Reilly That's Murdoch. Murdoch. That's funny. But originally from Starship Troopers. Appropriate. Episode 86 [2:15:17] Rebecca Hargraves Yeah, actually it's from Conan. The barbarian? [2:15:22] Dave Reilly The barbarian? The destroyer. I believe. I believe. It's from Starship Troopers. Do you want to, do you maggots want to live forever? [2:15:31] Cameron M He says, come on, you apes, do you want to live forever? I think that that comes from the army because Heinle was in the army during the Second War. [2:15:40] Dave Reilly I think that's where it comes from. They definitely say, do you want to live forever in Conan or do you, I think if the line is do you really want to live forever? Got it. Nice. Good super chat. [2:15:49] Cameron M Good day. Is that, I think yeah, I think I know what you're talking about the first Conan though, aren't you? Or where he's almost struck down anyway, whatever, it doesn't matter. I think you're right. [2:16:01] Dave Reilly All right. Moving on from the pop culture references, book chart, look at how beautiful the sunset has been in here. By the way, it's very nice. Book track roofs and $10. Money must defeat money. I'll try to help these Irish parties and do your research and pray about it. I hypocrite get the aristocratic utensil on your show. [2:16:20] Rebecca Hargraves I know the aristocratic utensil. [2:16:22] Dave Reilly Yeah, I don't. Oh, we should get them on here. Well, we'll make it happen. [2:16:26] Cameron M Everybody, every man watching this show, by the way, now that you mentioned Conan needs [2:16:32] Dave Reilly to watch at least the first 10 minutes of that film, it's like the most masculine testosterone [2:16:37] Cameron M driven 10 minute, you'll ever see. [2:16:40] Rebecca Hargraves Go watch it. Nice. [2:16:42] Dave Reilly Episode 86 We'll have to do that. By the way, I just learned this at dinner the other night with the PNW gorilla, apparently putting yourself like going out with other men and putting yourself into a competitive situation raises your testosterone. I told you that. Yeah, you told me that. I didn't believe it. That's incredible. [2:16:57] Rebecca Hargraves It's true. Because competitive environments mimic sexual competition, like beating out other men for sex with fertile women. [2:17:05] Dave Reilly That's just beating off other men. That is correct, yeah. Okay. You don't want to do the laughs. [2:17:09] Rebecca Hargraves No, that won't raise your testosterone as far as I know, yeah. [2:17:11] Dave Reilly Definitely not. Thomas Morrison, $11 for all of Hollywood's left leaning, how come not a single Hollywood film depicts the brutality of the US military during the mid 19th century, Cam brought up the war against Mexico, but there was war against the Comanche too. [2:17:28] Cameron M I would, I would submit that the brutality was not one-sided, right? Actually, there were a lot of films made about the Indian wars, a lot of them, Northwest passage is an example if you go back and watch that film. But a lot of the John Wayne films were about the Apaches and the Apaches were brutal. [2:17:51] Dave Reilly They were some of the most vicious people we've ever fought. And I would add, you hear this a lot from the left, right? [2:17:59] Cameron M They try to fetishize Native Americans and pretend as though these people were sort of like the originals. The fact of the matter is we defined our identity as people, beginning with King Philip's war, which happened in the 17th century, in which basically the New England colonies had to defend themselves against the Erocoordination and among other ammarine groups. We have defined ourselves by conquering and defeating extremely barbaric cruel and hostile peoples that originally occupied North America. This notion that these people were living in some kind of a utopia is absolutely absurd. And the historic evidence substantially in my claim is actually pretty, it's pretty well drawn. We have a lot of archeological evidence that suggests cannibalism, slavery of a very, of a very large scale. [2:18:56] Rebecca Hargraves It's human sacrifice, South Africa, that's so America. [2:19:00] Cameron M So this is a total myth. [2:19:02] Dave Reilly Episode 86 It's actually very common in Canada to an OLP, I'm sure you know, everybody apologizes for [2:19:08] Cameron M the ammaridians in Canada. Yeah. [2:19:11] Dave Reilly And I've definitely seen like depictions in television and film modern, more modern than [2:19:16] Rebecca Hargraves the John Wayne stuff where it is showing kind of like, oh, the white man was so cruel to [2:19:21] Dave Reilly the Indians. And I just, I hate it. [2:19:23] Rebecca Hargraves I roll my eyes when I see that. [2:19:25] Dave Reilly I can't think of any good examples off the top of my head, but they definitely have done that. Devon Stockman, a good speaker about this few months ago. [2:19:33] Cameron M Dances with wolves, the whole point of that film, basically the illustrate the brutality [2:19:38] Dave Reilly of white Europeans against the peaceful indigenous. [2:19:42] Cameron M And like I said, that's not an accurate picture. [2:19:45] Dave Reilly And last of the Mohicans, they did have that burning at the stake scene. [2:19:49] Rebecca Hargraves They showed some of the brutality of the Indians. [2:19:51] Dave Reilly What was the, what was that American, there was that movie, it was like a little mini series on Netflix about, you know, it's about American prime evil. Yeah. That was actually kind of not bad. Yeah. But I mean, but it was, it turned out that it wasn't actually Indians. It was Mormons dressed up as Indians, taking scouts. Yes, but they did show the Indians being savages to you. Yeah. [2:20:16] Rebecca Hargraves I kind of like that one. Episode 86 [2:20:17] Dave Reilly It was just kind of fun to watch because it was so violent. Yeah. We love the Mormons. We got a lot of Mormon viewers. My neighbors are all Mormon. We love our Mormons. [2:20:25] Rebecca Hargraves Hey, Kai. Hey, Kai. [2:20:28] Dave Reilly What's up? Sam Parker. Oh, yeah, Sam Parker. [2:20:31] Rebecca Hargraves Oh, him. [2:20:32] Dave Reilly Jake Tongseth sent $10. Give LP a lecture on how to pronounce Spokane and Cordolane. That's tough. What? Okay. Let's hear it. Spokane. Cordolane. Cordolane. Where is it? Macar. No, no, no, no. [2:20:51] Rebecca Hargraves Cordolane. [2:20:52] Dave Reilly Macar. Geez. It's going to be a riot outside my house later. I think he's got it. [2:20:56] Rebecca Hargraves I think he nailed it. Yeah, totally. [2:20:58] Dave Reilly Nailed it. Tom is more than $11. There's a poll in France that shows 88% of the French population no longer believes in democracy. And 71% would prefer a strong absolute leader to fix France's woes. Also saw a documentary on Paris suburbs. It's how you imagine it looks. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was bad the last time I was there. [2:21:26] Cameron M I remember. And the bond lose. Yeah, they call them bond lose. Go back and watch our episode two weeks ago, whoever sent that super chat. [2:21:33] Dave Reilly We talk about France in some detail. [2:21:35] Cameron M Yeah, that place. [2:21:36] Dave Reilly Episode 86 Look, the Fifth Republic is over. [2:21:38] Cameron M And the good thing about the French population is when they've had enough. They burned down your favorite restaurant, which is what they did to Macron a couple of [2:21:45] Dave Reilly years ago. Nice. Yeah, it's crazy. I spent some time, some significant time in France a couple of months. And it's amazing to hear the history. They had to widen the streets because they would riot so often. You know, anyway, it's a whole thing. Uh, Barnea 13, also a good action movie. We did that. We did that. Uh, Poland, France. We did that. The Orthodox are sent $10 LP. I just found out my 17 soon to be 18-year-old virgin orthotrad wife has been cheating on me with a far-right influencer, ortho-chud-maxer, and I cooked. Except, then, only not the orthodox here. [2:22:22] Cameron M You're cooked and chopped, and it's over, buddy. [2:22:26] Rebecca Hargraves Bro. Chopped. [2:22:28] Dave Reilly Chopped huzz, you know what Chopped huzz is? Um, that's huzz's hose, right? Yeah. So ugly huzz. Yeah, exactly. I learned that one from Vince James' son. Not tuzz. These kids, the kids, they're going to be okay. It'll be fine. Plainly-based persons and $10. What is Fwentez's ideology? Is he trad-cath? If so, that means brown-oids win. Fuck you. Uh, I'm finding Nick to be a disingenuous subversive who will not help the white race. He even seems to be fine with certain Jews as well. Best of luck, Groypers and followers. Uh, first of all, Nick is not a trad-cath. He's just Catholic. And his ideology is America first. And this is a totally disingenuous argument that was paid for by a Jew. So- I think it has that exact same super chat yesterday. Oh my show. Because it's a legitimate question. It's not a question. We need to talk about more, you know, about universalism in Catholicism. I mean, it's a problem. It's a true question. So, you need to go back and watch the podcast that I did yesterday, maybe you'll learn. Listen, EMJ for all of his followers. EMJ is senile. Can you let me get a word in any questions? We need to have American reform on the channel. What about the Pope? Yeah, put it up here. [2:23:39] Rebecca Hargraves Come on. [2:23:40] Dave Reilly Listen, EMJ is an expert on Catholicism he is. He's chopped. [2:23:45] Rebecca Hargraves Yes, I know. [2:23:46] Dave Reilly But it could be argued that his analysis of Catholicism is pure. No, it's not. American reform has done all the legwork. He's got the documents. Go follow. American reform on X. He's got a sub-stack. He's got Episode 86 all the documents. Everybody's wrong. He's right. Go listen, American reformer. I'll pull him up on the screen too. Let's see. [2:24:08] Rebecca Hargraves American. I am ready for race first Catholicism. [2:24:11] Dave Reilly Go read American reform. Okay. [2:24:14] Rebecca Hargraves It's Americanreform.substack.com. [2:24:17] Dave Reilly He does nothing but like if you go to his media, all he does is post these quotes one after another about Zionism, about racism, and you know, he lays it out. So you got to go follow American reform. Everybody telling you the Catholicism is like gay and brown is dumb. So anyway, Tiger Shark's in $25. We Europeans in the USA must collectivize fast. What a challenge. Further, more Americans need to get out of the dollar, yet there are no, yet they are so hard to convince. You guys are heroes on the front lines LP, good to see you, hail our people. [2:24:53] Rebecca Hargraves We are heroes. [2:24:54] Dave Reilly Thank you. [2:24:57] Cameron M Did they call you a Mensa Chad LP? [2:24:59] Rebecca Hargraves I mean, I am a Mensa. [2:25:05] Dave Reilly So it would be technically correct that one. Mensa Chad, like. When is Mensa going to get tagged as like an extremist organization? [2:25:14] Rebecca Hargraves I joined because I saw Sam Hyde do it and I thought man that'd be such a good flex for when people call me retarded on the internet. [2:25:24] Dave Reilly Have you seen my Mensa membership? [2:25:26] Cameron M Episode 86 I literally keep my card on my desk for what I'm, for something like that. [2:25:29] Dave Reilly So I'm reading my chats, I pause and say, hey buddy, you got one of these. [2:25:33] Rebecca Hargraves That's so fast. [2:25:35] Dave Reilly Thomas Morse in $11 reply to cam. The 20th century is defined by the fear of one class falling into another. It overrides hunger, it overrides money, it's why the university graduate police officers would sooner kill WC civilians if they aren't paid rather than join. What's a WC civilian? White Christian? Oh yeah, okay. [2:25:57] Rebecca Hargraves That makes sense. [2:25:59] Dave Reilly We've got a few. [2:26:00] Cameron M The Marxists gave it a shot in the 19th century. [2:26:03] Dave Reilly They tried to mobilize by class, didn't work, took nationalism. Yeah, nationalism is, it's the ethnos, it's your identity, it transcends politics and [2:26:13] Cameron M is the most powerful political force there is. [2:26:17] Dave Reilly Classism hasn't worked all that well because it is so inferior to national identity. [2:26:22] Cameron M So it's actually the opposite. [2:26:25] Dave Reilly Thomas Morse sent another $11. I was actually talking about in reference to the mid-century western. For example, the Oregon Trail 1959 does not actually feature the British despite Oregon being fought over by the two economically, UK abandoned it because of sheer US aggression. I don't know. [2:26:43] Cameron M I haven't seen it. [2:26:45] Dave Reilly Episode 86 Oregon, what did he call the film? Oregon Trail 1959, that's when it came out, I haven't seen that movie. And Thomas Morr with another $11 super chat, thank you so much, buddy. The US Comanche Wars were so insanely brutal. The mid-century westerns couldn't adapt the conflict into this date. The Comanche have not been in a single Hollywood film with the exception of the predator sequel. [2:27:09] Rebecca Hargraves That's good. [2:27:12] Dave Reilly That's good. [2:27:13] Cameron M I will just say that probably the greatest western ever made is called the searchers. It's another John Ford film. And it does go in depth about what happened to white people who were kidnapped and captured by Indians. [2:27:30] Dave Reilly And what exactly happened, a lot of them became savages and they never came back. [2:27:36] Cameron M I mean, it's a very harrowing, compelling, historically founded story. [2:27:42] Dave Reilly So if you haven't seen it, the searchers, John Ford. Nice. And I think that does it for a super chat, oh, I've got one more place, I've got to go check. Hold on. I'll check my YouTube channel again. Yeah. I've got to just like hit the refresh button, make sure it's all there. I have to... Nobody sent any Bitcoin. [2:28:00] Rebecca Hargraves All right. [2:28:01] Dave Reilly We're good over here. Yeah, we're good. We've got a big guest coming on the show this Monday. Do you know about this? Are you aware of this? My final pick for the month? No. Mary Fagan Kean. Oh, that's right. [2:28:14] Rebecca Hargraves I did know about that. [2:28:15] Dave Reilly And to erect a blood relation to Mary Fagan, the 14-year-old girl who was raped to death by Leo Frank, owner of the National Pencil Factory, which precipitated the founding of the anti-deformation. Yeah. And it's going to be incredible. So make sure that you put it on your calendars and tune in, because this poor woman and her family imagined the Hutzpah to like found an organization... Based on your murderous right now. To harass a family and revictimize them, and it's gone on for over a hundred years. So we're going to be getting a little bit of the truth about what happened at the National Pencil Episode 86 Factory. So do tune in on Monday. It's going to be a big show. [2:29:00] Rebecca Hargraves Thank you so much for joining us, LP. [2:29:02] Dave Reilly Where can people find you? [2:29:04] Cameron M I'm my hypocrite on Twitter. [2:29:05] Dave Reilly If you're on Twitter, you probably have seen me. You probably have me blocked if you're on Twitter. And I do a show on YouTube called The Daily Cope. So you can look that up or go to my link space there on the Twitter account, and it's all there. I hypocrite, Daily Cope, LP Original G. [2:29:22] Rebecca Hargraves Nice. Alright, cool. It was so fun to have you on. Thank you for joining us. [2:29:26] Dave Reilly Cameron, Dave, LP. We will see you on Monday.