Episode 98 — Piers Morgan Destroyed: Nick Fuentes Ends the Guilt Narrative on Live TV

Episode 98 Episode 98 — Piers Morgan Destroyed_ Nick Fuentes Ends the Guilt Narra>ve on Live TV [00:01] Rebecca: Welcome to the Backlash, a weekly explora4on of America's awakening. I am your very vexed co-host, Rebecca Hargraves. Oh, you're vexed. Dave likes to chide me four seconds before the show starts. It's very annoying. Join us always, my Mr. Dave Riley, how are you doing Dave? [00:18] Dave: What are we talking about tonight? I didn't look at the show notes. Are you serious? I helped you write them. What are you talking about? I know what's going on. [00:26] Rebecca: We had a pre-produc4on mee4ng. Now I am 100% sure that Dave has looked through all the show notes. I'm somewhat aware of what we may or may not [00:33] Dave: be discussing at some point. Do you know who has not looked through the show notes [00:36] Rebecca: but will contribute more than either of us to the show? Cameron! Cameron, how are you doing? I looked at the show notes. Allegedly. 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So go to odggsupply.com and thank you for partnering with the backlash. Under banter, I have 60th anniversary of Va4can II. Yeah, we'll get to that. But first, we have mail. We have some mail. Is it from the kit again? No, but I'll let you take a look. It is a beau4ful. Did you bet this? I just made sure that there wasn't any white powder in there. [03:50] Rebecca: Thank you for the dona4on. Please keep up the great work. Oh, I think that's halfway through. You got to unfold it. There you go. Time to move the pumpkins and show some Christmas decora4ons and cards. Please keep up the great work that you were doing. Take Dave's advice and stay close to God through Catholic faith. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. And the dona4on and the beau4ful card. Yeah, hold it up. Let me hold it up. You got it. Here, hold on. I'll zoom in. Oh, it's beau4ful. Lovely. And you can send anything you like, not anything you like. Use your discre4on. [04:24] Guest-1: Drugs, guns, money. Don't do that to our PO Box. PO Box 853, Post Falls, Idaho, 83877. [04:32] Dave: And we now have that in the show notes below. So you don't have to be like, if you're not like vigorously taking notes during the show, you can get to it later. I've also got to give a couple of shoutouts. I'm so sorry. It had been gone for like two weeks. So anyway, forgive me. Where is it? Did I get rid of it already? I probably did. [04:54] Rebecca: It's gone. Hold on. I've got to give a big shout out to, what's her at again? Oh, cute. MGM 2997 for the sweaters. [05:07] Rebecca: Give her a follow. She's a based boomer from here in North Idaho. [05:10] Dave: She knit sweaters. Did she knit? This looks like crochet. It might be crochet. I don't know. That's beau4ful. I don't know the difference between knikng and crochet. [05:19] Dave: But it's got like the liZle handmade leather thing in it. Yeah. And so she got absolutely carried away making these sweaters for my kids. So thank you. And they haven't taken them off in like three days. I gave them the sweaters like three or four days ago. Good. [05:32] Rebecca: And now all of us have hand-foot and mouth disease probably. Wonderful. Disgus4ng. Absolutely. Is that all, Dave? Now we did that. We did that. Now you have six minutes to talk about Va4can II. Well, hold on before we get there. I wanted to put it out there. Episode 98 [05:48] Dave: So if you listen to the show, if you watch the show, I want to know whether or not there is a group of people out there that would be interested maybe in coming with me on a pilgrimage in January. So I'm deba4ng about this. I've done it four or five 4mes already. It's a silent pilgrimage. It is not a silent pilgrimage. I've actually got a liZle video about it. But it would be to the Centro Historico of Quito, Ecuador, which is actually the oldest European city center lem in the free world because all of the European city centers in Europe got bombed during World War II and they no longer exist. So I've got a couple of friends that are leading this pilgrimage down to Quito who cost about $2,000 all in for your flight, for hotels, about a week and a half down there, all the food. It's very just like $8 for a filet mignon down there. And so I want to know if you would be interested in that. Send an email to infoaZhebacklash.net. I'll play like 60 seconds of this video so you can kind of get a vibe for what this is like. I'm Father Adam Purdy, and I'm here in Quito, Ecuador, [06:57] Cameron: along with a large number of pilgrims from all throughout the world. We are on pilgrimage to our Lady of Buen Susaso of the Purifica4on. This pilgrimage has a very rigorous schedule gekng up every morning at 5 a.m. for a rosary procession. [07:24] Cameron: Anyway, you get the idea. You get the idea. It's like a bunch of people. [07:27] Dave: They all come down there. They show me some more of that priest. You go, hey, watch it. I don't know what to tell you. Watch it. Stop introducing me to so many hot priests, [07:34] Rebecca: and I'll stop talking about how hot they are. He is a handsome priest. [07:36] Dave: He's handsome. Anyway, so if you're interested in that, send me an email. I'm trying to gauge if there's other people out there that would be free. It would be from January 23rd to February 2nd in Quito, Ecuador. I'd have to obviously take off 4me on the show to do this, which I didn't ask either of you if I could do it. But I wanted to see if there's any interest in it. Even if there's like five of you that would want to go down, it could be interes4ng. OK, now I'm done. No, no. [07:59] Rebecca: Now you're going to talk about Va4can II. Well, it's been 60 years since Va4can II happened. Is that the whole thing? That's basically it's just it's been 60 years. It's a fucking disaster. [08:07] Guest-1: Pardon my French. A lot of Catholics out there have been taking issue [08:10] Dave: with my swearing. I didn't need to a lot. Six minutes for you. Seven minutes. I think I already did. Let me check the 4me. 11 minutes. We've been going 11 minutes. All right. What else do we have in the bands? That's it or eight minutes. That's it. We had Va4can II happened for 60 years and everyone's like, you know, voca4ons are down. The nuns are gone. What the heck? This is crazy. I'm preZy sure I'm going to regret this. [08:35] Cameron: But for the non-ini4ated, Dave, why don't you provide a liZle bit of context? OK. Episode 98 [08:44] Dave: Well, so Va4can II, let me see if I can pull it up. Just a picture while we're talking about it. [08:51] Guest-1: Va4can II is an ecumenical council, right? There have been like 20 of these ecumenical councils [08:56] Dave: that have taken place over the 2,000 years of the church. Here's a picture of what it looked like. It started in 1965 or it ended on December 8, 1965. Started in 1963. And basically what's supposed to happen at these councils is that the bishops together with the pope are supposed to come together to like proclaim doctrine and condemn heresy. And this council, this par4cular council, Va4can II, which happened and ended in 1965, is the very first 4me ever that the bishops and the pope got together not to declare dogma, not to condemn heresy, but to issue some sort of weird pastoral council that supposedly doesn't change Catholic theology. It doesn't change prac4ce or teaching or governance or anything like that. But then when you actually look at what happened in the wake of the council, it changed absolutely everything. They changed all of the sacraments. They changed the liturgy. They changed who is allowed to work in the church. We've got women now working in these caskes. What did they change about confession? Confession, they made it face to face. Oh. So that like when you go into the box, normally there's a wall between you and the priest. And you talk through a liZle grill and you tell him your sins and then he absolves you. Well, now all of a sudden it's like you go to confess face sikng like this with the priest. What, no, I speak behind a screen. And well, not all, it's not all, maybe at your church it's fine, but at other churches it's face to face. And it's like imagine having to sit there in a room with a priest, you know, a 14 year old talking about like, oh yeah, well I masturbated. And the priest starts, well, how did you do that? Face to face. And then you wonder why there's this big sex abuse scandal that has consumed the church because there were protec4ons in place. You're supposed to be physically separated from the priest. Anyway, and so yeah, we've got, the big three errors that came out from Va4can II were religious liberty, ecumenism, and collegiality or synodality. And we're seeing all of that come into full force with Leo. And I think we're gonna talk a liZle bit more about this on the 22nd with Father Maudsley. Oh, yes we are. So anyway, but I just wanted to note that because that was a big thing that happened a couple of days ago. Also, a couple of days ago, [11:18] Dave: we had the, we consecrated our city [11:23] Dave: to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, which is something that in Va4can II they wouldn't really want you to do. Because this is like, you know, oh, you're pukng your religion on everyone else and blah, blah, blah. But anyway, very good. That's really cool. Yeah, several hundred of us came out. Did anybody try to stop you guys? Absolutely not. [11:42] Dave: Yeah, it's good if you're thinking of moving to North Idaho, move to Post Falls. It's like, Cor4lane's based Red Pill brother. It is less preZy. Slightly less preZy. That is, that is. We don't have a resort. Indeed. So. Okay, I'm done now. I'm done. The rest of the show is up to you guys. That was concise and informa4ve. [12:05] Rebecca: It truly was. I'm not being face4ous. We're gonna be talking Fuentes on Pierce Morgan, which I keep spelling Pierce because Pierce is, it's not a name. Is it a name? If you ever, Episode 98 it's just so stupid. Hexeth under fire, Ukraine, the meaning of poli4cal change, all this and more on your favorite weekly show, Na4onalist Show. Based. The Backlash. Let's go. This Pierce thing, I know this is slop. I know that this is poli4cal theater. Academic agent put out an excellent video [12:36] Rebecca: likening this to professional wrestling. And it was very good. But I have to say that everybody is talking about it. And it was highly entertaining. Highly entertaining. And I've had my gripes with Nick over the last few months. But watching Pierce Morgan shrivel up and just get his ass handed to him was truly the highlight of my week. Where should we even start with this? I don't know. We can start with this first. I have Holocaust, Nick. With this first clip. Sure. 30 seconds in. All right, let's dive right into it. Legend. [13:08] Dave: And it is treated like a religion. It is treated like a religion. [13:11] Rebecca: With dogma, with blasphemy laws. And that secular religion says, and you say, you say that's a crock of shit. It's inten4onal. It's called The Open Society by Karl Popper. It's by these architects of the liberal order amer World War II. They got together and they said, how can we make sure that Hitler never happens? How can we make sure that totalitarianism never happens again? And they came up with the consensus [13:32] Dave: which is that we need to take down na4ons, religions, fathers, the authoritarian personality. We need to be empathe4c and altruis4c. We need to be diverse and pluralis4c. And that experiment is, and I'll tell you the truth, right now, and you can laugh at this, you can scoff at this, [13:48] Rebecca: our people are being genocided in our country. 50% of the live births in the United Kingdom and in the United States are non-white. In 100 years, my ancestors, your ancestors, your kids who are so empathe4c and compassionate, [14:02] Guest-1: they're gonna be a minority. They're gonna be a minority in maybe a Muslim country, [14:05] Dave: an Indian country, an Hispanic country, and these Jewish people that are 100 years old [14:10] Rebecca: talking about my grandparents in the Holocaust, they don't care about that. Actually, they like to see it. [14:14] Guest-1: At the SPLC, they're literally coun4ng down the days un4l whites are a minority in America. So forgive me if I don't believe them then when they talk about compassion. [14:22] Rebecca: There's a genocide going on right now. It's not against the Jews. How many Chris4ans are there? Gaza? It's against whites. How many Chris4ans are there in the world? So, one point, some billion. This was preempted by Piers Morgan bringing on a clip from his, deploying his Finkelstein friend to talk about how a bajillion of his rela4ves were made into lampshades or whatever. Me mom. Me mom in the holy. But me mom was in the holy. Bro. Thinking that it was going to be some kind of nuclear bomb on Nick's argument, which is so hilarious. The juxtaposi4on between the Boomer legacy media mindset being like, well, how do Episode 98 you think this makes people feel? How do you think it makes people feel? How do you think this makes black people feel? And Nick's like, I don't give a shit. Like, I don't care at all. And he really thought that this was going to be a knockout. Well, and it would have been for like a Boomer, you know, [15:16] Dave: because they use the Holocaust, they use all of these things. Jim Crow in the South, they use it as like an idol that you have to bow down to. And up un4l now, everybody has bowed down. So as soon as you bring it up and you men4on, oh, my grandfather had a taZoo. It's like, oh, oh, geez. Oh, I can't, you know, [15:34] Dave: and it's supposed to like, you know, wash away. Like this is what Nick was talking about. By the way, Mark Potock, the senior director at the Southern Poverty Law Center, no longer, I think he got fired, but he was coun4ng down the white popula4on in America [15:51] Dave: as if it was a good thing, you know, what the fuck? [15:57] Dave: Yeah. Like this does not, like the Holocaust or whatever happened does not give you free reign to destroy our country. And I think we're star4ng to get to this breaking point where things like this, this is going to become more normal. I think we're there. [16:12] Rebecca: I saw a breakdown by my best friend, Grock, about responses to this. And it seems that Nick has overwhelming support. I barely saw anybody saying- He didn't even shim the Overton window. [16:24] Dave: He burned down the Overton house, the Overton block. The whole neighborhood is gone. Let's pull up this one of this next one. [16:32] Rebecca: Hitler, Nick is what I have it labeled as. I have this one where it's like, [16:36] Dave: now asking if he thinks Hitler is cool. Perfect. Now deploy the Finkelstein. It's like, what's that movie? The Truman Show or whatever. Yeah, it is the Truman Show. Yeah. Here's the clip. Let's see. Oh my God. You think Hitler was very fucking cool? [16:52] Dave: Yes. [16:55] Dave: And I'm 4red of pretending he's not, to be honest. This is the problem you see. It's a bit like when you just say, I'm a racist. You're a racist. You think Hitler's cool, but you're not an4-Semi4c. If you're a Jewish person watching this, what are they thinking? Well, who cares? [17:11] Rebecca: That's Nick's point. I think that the old guard here doesn't know how to interact with younger audiences. But as we've talked about ad nauseam, have no economic opportuni4es, have fewer opportuni4es for rela4onships in marriage. And they're like, oh, you're gonna call me racist and cancel me like I care? He looked dead in the face of Pierce Morgan and was like, I am racist. Yep. [17:35] Rebecca: What other clips did you wanna play? Well, there was a moment where Nick was like, Episode 98 [17:39] Dave: they were asking, he's like, well, why do you think Hitler is cool? And Nick just goes like, the clips. And so somebody put it together where, they mashed it up. So this is what he's talking about. Okay, for those of you that are not on X are seeing what's going on. He murdered 12 million people. He murdered 12 million people. [18:00] Guest-1: What is very fucking cool about that? Tell me. The edits. [18:23] Guest-1: It's Roypers ear to shine. [18:25] Rebecca: Yep. [18:33] Rebecca: I think the most frustra4ng part of the whole debate though was, this wasn't really a debate in a true sense. But they had a discussion about black crime and Pierce deliberately tried to act like he doesn't have understanding of per capita. It was so annoying. I was listening to it. [18:51] Guest-1: Cause you know he's lying. He's an intelligent guy. [18:55] Rebecca: And he was trying to say the propor4on of school shooters that are white are 60%. And Nick kept saying over and over, like, yeah, but what propor4on of white people are school shooters? And he just would not answer the ques4on. It's like, you know what we're talking about. You know that black people commit more violent crime. At this point in 4me, how could anybody be denying this? I felt like I was kind of back in 2016. Like there was no substance to any of this. I don't think Nick laid anything out that nobody had heard before or really progressed the movement in any way. But he did get a lot of exposure and a lot of people were rallying behind him. And people like Pierce Morgan, who already do not have a lot of credibility are being just demolished. Oh, and he's s4ll bitching about it today. [19:38] Guest-1: Let me see if I can pull up the P-I-E-R. See, it's a retarded name. I'd spell it Pierce Morgan. Okay. [19:46] Dave: Yeah, he's s4ll bitching about this. I mean, he lost. He lost the whole thing. Because, you know, in Boomerland, you bring up the Holocaust. You bring up, like I said, Jim Crow. And it's game over, game set match. You have to forfeit your country. We need to eat curry. You need to be replaced. And Nick not bowing down to that and just saying, no, I'm not playing this game anymore. And it just sends them into a frenzy. And the two real things that Nick did get into was one, this Holocaust Chris4anity thing, right? Because the Holocaust has become like a religion now. It's a religion. [20:27] Dave: Golgotha is replaced by Auschwitz. The cross is replaced by the gas chamber. The savior Jesus Christ is replaced by the Jewish people. The Roman soldiers are replaced by the SS. It's almost a perfect mirror image of Chris4anity, except there is no God. There is no Jesus. There is no salva4on. There is no redemp4on. And it has blasphemy laws at this point, right? And so Nick coming up there, being an iconoclast and tearing that down, [20:59] Guest-1: I think that's like a massive W. Oh, of course. For absolutely everybody. I've seen a lot of cri4cism on his Holocaust take. Episode 98 [21:05] Rebecca: Like my mom was so pissed off. She's like, what is he talking about with this six million? Seven million. [21:10] Dave: And then this morning she comes in to get the baby and she goes, my 67 year old mother goes, [21:15] Rebecca: was Nick actually Holocaust maxing? [21:19] Rebecca: I was like, what weird world do I live in right now where my mom is more chronically online than I am? And I was like, yes, mother. He was Holocaust maxing. Yeah, that's exactly what it was. [21:30] Dave: He denied the Holocaust by supplying more. More. [21:35] Rebecca: More numbers. It could be seven million. [21:37] Dave: It could be 10 million. Who knows? But then the other thing that he really got at though was the sexual revolu4on. Because that's another kind of sacred cow of boomers that men and women are equal, that women need the right to vote, that they are just like the same as men, they're totally interchangeable. And Pierce who claims that he's Catholic even went on to say that, oh, women should be ordained to the priesthood. Retarded. And Nick said no. And it has driven Pierce so insane and so crazy that he is out here two days later, s4ll pos4ng about Nick. Like this was two hours ago. I think he just made fun of him like an hour ago. Yeah, all groipers are sexually repressed virgins or just their spiritual leader, right? I mean, he can't get over the fact that Nick Fuentes is saving himself for marriage, that he's prac4cing abs4nence, that he is encouraging his followers to prac4ce abs4nence and to wait un4l marriage. And to boomers, this is like a big spit in their face that you don't accept the free love, the sexes are equal bullshit. And it's just incredible, [22:55] Guest-1: especially considering the fact as it's come out [23:00] Guest-1: in the subsequent days that Pierce Morgan totally cut. Literally a cut. [23:06] Dave: Look at this clip. [23:08] Dave: Just to sit back, I went home. Who let you in? [23:10] Guest-1: My housework, my normal Monday. I do a bit of work and then some proper work at home, domes4c engineering. [23:16] Dave: Good, I'm glad to hear it, that's excellent. How's it going then? Very well, thank you very well. And she told you I'm a feminist? Yes, I do, you said you are and you are. [23:25] Guest-1: I mean, we're just seeing how the word people some4mes get really confused now, but when I was liZle, it was just all about equality. You know what it is, I'm surrounded by strong women. From Cecilia to Susanna and CharloZe Hawkins and my mum and my grandmother was incredibly strong Episode 98 [23:40] Rebecca: and I just don't get this... He's so gay. Yeah, and then his wife's Instagram is liZered with pictures of her with other men. Look at this, they're like reading a book called Huge Penis. That man's a homosexual, to be fair. Well, but s4ll, it's like, this is like one of many. I think Wurzel Root, big shout out to Wurzel Root on X. He's the one that kind of brought all of this. [24:02] Dave: Let me see if I can find some. Yeah, like look at this, this is Pierce Morgan's wife. Oh my God. They're pos4ng these goofy photos with other men. [24:13] Dave: Yikes. Look at this, look at this guy. He broke. Yeah. So anyway, Pierce Morgan has been destroyed. It is over. So they're just going to deploy new tac4cs [24:26] Rebecca: to tarnish Nick's reputa4on. Ini4ally it was the Nick as a Fed thing. No, they're just gonna keep recycling [24:31] Dave: all the same old stuff. Nick is gay, he's a Fed, he's this, he's that. This is gonna be the same stuff over again. Can you bring up the network contagion ins4tute report? Oh, absolutely. Thank you for reminding me about that, actually. I'm the one that put that in the show notes and I totally forgot. Yeah, we had this group called the Network Contagion Research Ins4tute, which is basically a rebrand of the An4-Defama4on League [24:54] Dave: that is, you know, they were out here talking about Christ as king. They were wri4ng all these reports about COVID denialism and COVID vaccine, truth or ism or whatever. And now they've got a report claiming that Nick Fuentes's audience is bodied from like Nigeria or something. [25:14] Dave: I don't really know. What does it say? And basically the reason why they're pissed is because, you know, when you're on X, right? Like, let's say I go to AF Post, you see right here, there's this liZle bell and you can click the bell and it turns on no4fica4ons, right? So you get no4fied instantly when they tweet. And so all of Nick's followers have gone on X, they click the bell, they get the no4fica4on. So Nick will say ra4o to Pierce Morgan and all of his people immediately go and they like it, they retweet it. Cropers are a massive number [25:50] Rebecca: and they're wildly diligent. That's what I, people don't understand. They're very smart. And they're smart, yeah. High agency people. Let's talk about what this means. So we've talked about this for months. There's obviously been a shim in the media that has allowed us to voice opinions that would have been just shocking even five years ago. I mean, does this represent a real shim into the abyss? [26:13] Dave: I mean, does this really mean anything for the poli4cal movement? [26:16] Rebecca: So Cameron, do you think that the dissonant right has actually gone mainstream? Are these just theatrics to appease us? You look unimpressed. [26:26] Rebecca: I'm usually unimpressed. [26:28] Cameron: Look, is it something? Is it nothing? Is it everything? It's definitely something. And as you can tell, and our audience is not exclusively American. We have Europeans that Episode 98 watch our show. I have personally spoken to some Aussies, New Zealanders, Brits and others that watch our product. And you have to understand that [26:53] Cameron: their paleZe is different than Americans. We like trash TV. We like to see people savage one another. That's one of the reasons why Pierce Morgan was successful in the United States. I would argue more successful here than he was in the United Kingdom, where the culture is simply different. Remember that debate, certainly the spirit of debate really comes from the Bri4sh public school system. A lot of people think it goes back to ancient Greece. It really doesn't. It comes from Great Britain. And so in that society, there is a high respect for debate. But debate does not necessarily mean just defama4on. And that's what we do in the United States. And we conflate defama4on with debate and substance. That may or may not resonate with Britons. We'll have to see. I don't know. [27:45] Cameron: A lot of the Brits do like Trump, even though he's, I think, clownish himself. So 4mes are changing and therefore it is something. And there is a shibboleth. There is an icon that's being destroyed, as Dave said. And that is this taboo about the Holocaust, about the Jews and all the rest of it. And I think people have grown very 4red of that taboo. It's certainly done tremendous harm to the Anglo world in par4cular. Anglo is the right term. [28:17] Cameron: To understand where we are in the world today, you really need to fixate on Great Britain. Because without Great Britain, there would have been no World War I. There would have been no World War II. And there would not have been the Jewish supremacy that exists in the world. It's very important that all of you understand that. Because if you understand that, then you can kind of see a couple things. One is that the Brits, par4cularly the older genera4on, they will go down with the ship called the Holocaust for reasons I'm gonna explain in just a moment. The second is that the historic center of Jewish power in the Western world, at least since the end of the Napoleonic Wars in 1815, has been Great Britain. And specifically, it's been the city of London. It was the city of London where Nathan Rothschild went in the late 1700s, [29:10] Cameron: late 18th century to establish a banking house and eventually to dominate the Bank of England. With that backdrop, let's talk a liZle bit about World War II. [29:22] Cameron: There's a very good speech that was given by Winston Churchill just before World War I. In fact, I'm gonna read some of it to you so that you understand what the hell I'm talking about. Before World War I, there was spirited debate in Great Britain about the prospect of figh4ng a war on the con4nent. It had been the policy of the empire, more or less, to avoid entanglements in long land war. Didn't mean that the Bri4sh were not involved. They typically were, but being the island na4on that they are, they would involve themselves in clandes4ne ways, largely not with land forces in part because they did not have them. And so early in Winston Churchill's career, he strongly opposed a European war. And this is what he said and it's very important to understand. He said, it is no longer a game. A European war cannot be anything but a cruel and heart-rending struggle, which, if we are ever to enjoy the biZer fruits of victory, must demand, perhaps for years, the whole manhood of the na4on, the en4re suspension of peaceful industries and the concentra4ng to only one end of every vital agency in the community. I say, sir, at this par4cular moment in history, we would make a fatal bargain if Episode 98 we allowed a moral force, which this country has for so long exerted, to become diminished or perhaps destroyed for the sake of a costly, trumpery, dangerous, military playthings upon which the Secretary of State for war has set his heart. Now, a couple of things about that speech. He was echoing the sen4ments of Lord Randolph Churchill, his father, who'd basically been forced out of government for urging economy and retrenchment, for demanding fiscal rec4tude and not adventures overseas. Well, unfortunately, Churchill changed his mind and eventually Great Britain plunged into World War I, a war that changed the fate of European peoples the world over. And I'm sure most of you probably know that. That then led to everything that we understand as Bolshevism, socialism, fascism, so forth and so on. [31:36] Cameron: And that eventually led to an even worse catastrophe that being World War II. World War I and World War II destroyed the Victorian Age. It destroyed a world dominated by European civiliza4on and culture that more or less controlled 80 plus percent of the world. 80 percent of the world we dominated in rela4ve peace and harmony too. I mean, there were wars on the con4nent, but they were largely controlled. And you had a collec4on of European statesmen that were capable, that were competent and understood that full scale war would be devasta4ng not just to their countries, but to civiliza4on. Nonetheless, those two wars happened and specifically what they did is they destroyed the Bri4sh Empire, gone up in smithereens. How do you process that? How do you come to terms with that? Well, what the Bri4sh elites did amer having lost everything, lost the empire, lost a genera4on, two genera4ons of men that were destroyed, dispirited, deranged those that survived the wars. They bought the Holocaust myth. They said, we're the good guys. We fought the good fight. This is why we engaged [32:53] Guest-1: in such absolute reckless self-destruc4on. And it was a lie. [32:59] Cameron: It was a fraud. And it was a lie and a fraud that genera4ons of historians in Great Britain in par4cular have tried to tell the truth about. David Irving being one of them. And David Irving happened to be arrested, went to jail as life was destroyed. And if you wanna learn more about that story, you should look into it. The Bri4sh elites stand on that lie. It ac4vates all the ins4tu4ons of power in Great Britain. Now, that is not to say that the middle and working classes, and remember that what's happened in Great Britain is exactly what's happened in the United States, which is exactly what's happened in Australia and New Zealand and Canada. The Anglosphere has all sunk. We've all roZen to the core because of this lie. It would have been beZer to explain it in those terms, to understand the psyche of the na4on with whom you were talking. And remember, my ancestors came from Scotland and Northern England. This was a country seated by the Bri4sh Empire. It's the reason we speak English. It's the reason we have a cons4tu4on. It's the reason we have private property. It's the reason there is separa4on of church and state. Virtually everything that we iden4fy as American was repackaged and innovated in some par4cular way that became American. That is who we are. What's good about that discussion is that in a very haphazard manner, he smashed that pinata. And that's a good thing. It is. It needed to be smashed. And now we're gonna have to deal with the consequences of that. Although I would submit, I don't think it's fully dead in Great Britain at all, just as it isn't fully dead in the United States. That all means it's something, but the real pain train, the real transi4on, the real revolu4on to come, that will occur when that state descends into some kind of massive civil conflict, probably on the heels of a financial catastrophe that the elites in that Episode 98 country just as the same in the United States, in an Australia, in New Zealand and Canada have engineered, they will go down. But there will be no come to Jesus moment for the older genera4on. They have stood on that lie since the end of those destruc4ve wars. And unfortunately, that lie is gonna have to be set on fire. And at least I can say that was the beginning of that process. And as we grow further and further from the event, [35:28] Rebecca: I mean, it's easier to extricate yourself from the lie, especially because so many students are just generally historically illiterate, which makes them more difficult to propagandize. There's a silver lining, right? Also, the immigra4on problem has a silver lining because they don't care about the Holocaust narra4ve. They don't. [35:45] Dave: Right, well, and this is one of the things that's been used, right? It's been used to browbeat us as to like, well, you can't have a country that's not diverse and monolithic and monocultural. [35:57] Dave: You're not allowed to have that because the last 4me we did that it was the Third Reich and Hitler and the Holocaust happened. And so na4onalism bad, and it's just bullshit. That whole narra4ve is bullshit. The whole event, all of it, you know. There's a really good book. I think we've plugged it on the show before the Holocaust Encyclopedia by Girmar Rudolph. Anybody that's interested in that, definitely pick up a copy. But it's, you know, it's at least star4ng this discussion, right? Of like, was it Mitoneck, right? Ini4ally es4mated to have 2 million dead at Mitoneck. Then it gets revised down to 71,000 from 2 million to 71,000. Gerber is an interes4ng character. Then from 71 to 40,000. He is not a right-wing na4onalist. No, he's not. He's a liberal. He's a chemist, and that's how he came to... He's a chemist and a lem-wing liberal. And he's the one that like has literally wriZen the book on this thing. And it is really ridiculous that it's illegal over there to ques4on any of this stuff, to talk about the numbers, whatever. You know, but again, the big point is, Nick did it, he talked about it himself. I think there was like a 25 minute segment that's been clipped about the whole thing, about why it's important to disabuse ourselves of the guilt of World War II that we not only, and especially as Americans, like what fucking guilt do we have? We took these people in. We went and fought against Germany, against, well, with Russia, but we don't have any fucking guilt of this thing. Oh yeah, we do. No. No, no, what were we doing? [37:32] Rebecca: Why did we fight? Why do we engage in these brother wars? I have like genera4onal guilt about that. Well, yeah, I mean, we shouldn't have been involved in it. The America First CommiZee with Father Coughlin [37:43] Dave: and Charles Lindbergh, they were right. We shouldn't have been involved. But yeah, it's important to, because again, all of it goes back to the Holocaust. It all comes back to like, you're not allowed to have your country. You're not allowed to keep out immigrants because it will lead to another Holocaust. Right, right. [37:59] Rebecca: I mean, I want to see more proof and more evidence that this is going to manifest in a tangible way, right? So I like to see that we're talking about it. I like to see that the JQ is entering the modern lexicon. It's happening in normie conversa4ons. My mom is asking me if Nick Fuentes is Holocaust maxing. Like I like to see this, but really what I want to see is are Episode 98 Jews gekng worried? Are they becoming concerned that this narra4ve is collapsing? Now I'm seeing it a lot from rabbis. I'm seeing it a lot from Orthodox Jews and the SPLC, they're all kind of freaking out about this an4-Semi4sm thing. But we have this interes4ng clip. This is clip one, if you can pull it up. Now, this guy is talking about Jews going to Israel and he's posing it as some sort of giant economic opportunity, which is so delusional that I can only believe that he's feeling the heat from a social level and he's trying to brand this like it's an opportunity for other Jews. Now, I have my concerns about Jews congrega4ng in Israel. That might become a problem, but let's take a listen to, I don't know, we don't have to listen to the whole thing just un4l you think we should. I've got a clip too. Oh, do you? Yeah, okay. I said, can you even say Shalom in New York anymore? [39:14] Guest-1: That's what Miriam said this morning. So just to pick up on that, what I'll tell everybody is, skip Miami. If you're leaving New York, just come straight to Israel. There's no reason to make a stop in Florida before you need to come. You omen say that Zionism is economic growth. When we talk about the possibility of one million Jews moving to Israel, what is the economic logic behind such a vision and why is now the right moment? [39:41] Rebecca: So first of all, immigra4on in general always adds to economic growth, except when you bring in, let's call it less qualified immigra4on. But all immigra4on to Israel at this one has been contributed to the economy. [39:52] Dave: There's just a study about the billions of dollars that Olim, par4cularly from North America [39:58] Rebecca: and Western Europe have brought to Israel. And I don't remember the numbers on the top of my head, but they're large. But the Israeli economy is gonna go through a transforma4on now. It's not only gonna be high-tech led. We're gonna build a finance sector in Israel. That's the first thing that's gonna happen. [40:11] Guest-1: There's new tax laws and regulatory relaxa4on that's gonna happen. And you're gonna see beginning already in Q1, [40:17] Dave: hedge funds get set up in Israel so we can become another capital of finance. I'll argue we will beat London within a short decade [40:24] Rebecca: as a second capital of finance. This seems, maybe I'm wrong about this, but this seems incredibly hubris4c and delusional because Jewish people can only be financially successful by subver4ng the economy of others. If they're all congregated in Israel, what are they going to do? Not to men4on that their economy is so heavily bolstered by the United States. Like, this is like a plan. [40:45] Dave: They're trying to construct an empire. Yeah. Right, we had, as Cameron was talking about earlier, we had Pax Britannica, where England ruled the high seas through their superior naval warfare and whatnot. And then World War I, World War II, transferred that empire to America. And we got Pax Americana, which is, you know, the, what the fuck was it called? The Petrodollar and all of this nonsense. And now, I think it was actually Sheikh Imran Hossain, the Muslim guy from Trinidad that said we're now entering an age of Pax Judaica, where they are Episode 98 trying to take the empire away from America and establish it in Israel. So that seems like what they're trying to do. Cameron, do you want to comment on this before we move on? Yeah, I'll just be brief. [41:35] Cameron: Look, Theodore Herzl, as we know, launched the Zionist project in the 19th century. And it was largely a failure. And it was a failure because the majority of interna4onal jury didn't want to leave Europe. So much for the narra4ve that they were persecuted. Most of the Jews in Europe didn't want to go anywhere. And that's also true for a lot of the Sephardic Jews living in the Middle East. They didn't want to go to Israel either. And it took the Holocaust, frankly. It took cataclysmic events to get people over there. I do think that there is something to what Dave said. I ques4on the viability of a Jewish state. I don't know that it is viable. They've always sort of depended upon the labor, the economic value produced by others. Israel is not a produc4ve state. It is heavily dependent. I would say umbilically dependent on the United States for its military power, its economy, and all the rest of it. And as you said, Rebecca, you're quite right. Financializa4on is a parasite. [42:41] Cameron: Who cares if you're the center of finance but you produce nothing of value? That's essen4ally what Israel may become. Look, good riddance. If it comes to that and all of a sudden they decide to go, good riddance, let them go there. It may come to that. We'll have to see. I don't know. What I do know is that the Anglo countries, which are the last bas4on of true interna4onal Jewish power in the West, they're on 4lt. And I do think that they're sensing that the poli4cal winds have shimed. I think they sense it more acutely than a lot of the other poli4cal class that is sort of slavishly devoted to them. I don't think they are as aware of it at all. So I guess all that is to say, if it's a magnet because of a shim in the poli4cal dynamics in the Western world, so be it. Will it be successful long-term? Probably not. Yeah, and just to kind of follow up on Cam, [43:39] Dave: and then I'm gonna derail for a brief moment. It'll be a good deal. Anybody will enjoy it. But to Cameron's point, he's right, he's right that the Zionist idea did not take off. It was not very popular. What they needed was Syops to get the Goyam on board, one of them being this idea of Bri4sh Israelism or Anglo-Israelism, which is this goofy ideology that was foisted upon the royal family in the courts in England in the late 1800s to the early 1900s where they were convincing them, convincing the Bri4sh that they were actually the lost 12th tribe of Israel and that they had this historical 4e to the land as well, which is why dear Lord Balfour, you should give us the land because we're both Israelites or whatever. Yes, the parasi4c acquisi4on. Yeah, it's very bizarre, but it didn't really, the Zionism thing didn't really take off un4l this took place. And then you can even look at, you know, in Germany, there were all of these goofy Protestant groups that saw themselves as, you know, having this connec4on to the ancient Israel thing. And so they would develop colonies in Pales4ne in the late 1800s as well. [45:00] Dave: And of course it's like really bizarre, [45:03] Dave: but it is interes4ng that Bri4sh Israelism was then, so Bri4sh Israelism was this phylo-Semi4c, like, oh, look, we're Jews too type of thing that happened. And that got imported by Henry Ford at the Dearborn Independent, but they changed it just a liZle bit where it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're the lost tribe of Israel, but those Jews are fake. And so they're the spawn Episode 98 of Satan. And that's actually what came to become Chris4an iden4ty, which is the ideology of Richard Butler, the Aryan na4ons. And like most of the Wignat 1.0 movement was actually this like weird, bastardized version of Bri4sh Israelism where it's like, no, we're the real Jews. We're the true Israelites. How bizarre. Yeah, isn't it weird? Oh, 100%, 100% true. And it's interes4ng because Henry Ford liked the ideology because it made his workers like very produc4ve and cohesive because they started viewing themselves as this like racial unit. Yeah, exactly. So that's, that was super interes4ng. I just want to say, [46:07] Cameron: I just want to say three things. Oh, I'm sorry, Dave. Go ahead, go on. I just want to say three things. One is ar4ficial states don't tend to last, right? [46:19] Cameron: We talked about this before. The most successful city-state in the modern world is Singapore. Singapore was founded by a patriarch named Lee Kuan Yew. Singapore is an ethno-state. It is a Chinese ethno-state, okay? [46:34] Cameron: Israel is a bastardized ar4ficial construct. And that's one of the reasons why it's crumbling. Number two, we are here today, ladies and gentlemen, in large measure, not totally, not completely, but in large measure, I would say 80% or more because of a real Holocaust, it's happening in Gaza where large numbers of people, tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands. Again, I don't know the numbers, but if you look at interna4onal AIDS organiza4ons, the numbers are horrific. Large numbers of innocent people have been butchered and murdered in a manner that's undeniable, that's graphic, that's televised, and that has red- pilled or beZer said, jacued the whole world. [47:24] Cameron: That combined with this new media landscape of which we are apart has taken that informa4on, has weaponized that informa4on and propagandized it against the propagandists in ways that they were not prepared for because the rules of the game have changed because the business model, the technology of the terrain that they once dominated, they no longer control. That's two. Three is something I wanna go back to that Fuentes said. So he got part of it right, but he missed something. It is true that the various Jewish schools, and here I'm gonna men4on three, [48:04] Cameron: the Freudians, the Frankfurters and the Straussians, all of them obsessed about the tyrannical personality type, the authoritarian. That's true, but that in many ways was a mirror image of who they are. In fact, what they were really doing was describing their own idiosyncra4c behavior, their own machina4ons, and that's what we've seen on display in Israel. In other words, they were unmasking themselves unwikngly and much of the psychobabble that they described was a delusion of their own making. It had nothing to do with the reality of what European peoples were ever about. And to some degree, that was its power because we actually did have conscience. We did feel bad. We did empathize. We didn't wanna brutalize the world, right? We didn't just bring the sword. We brought the cross. We brought civiliza4on. And so to have a group of people say, not only are you a tyrant by nature, but that the essence of your en4re civiliza4on is to be this brutal authoritarian that injured us psychologically. And now that is being turned back on them and they have been unmasked through their own fault, I might add, right? You reap what you sow. They've done it to themselves, folks. Absolutely. Episode 98 [49:29] Rebecca: And I feel like we all s4ll have that empathe4c urge. You don't wanna close that off because that is such a huge part of the Western spirit. But the only way that we can sublimate it properly is to turn it inward and use it for our own people. It's this pathological altruism that has goZen us into this mess. But I mean, nobody watching this show feels guilty about the Holocaust, surely. No, and especially. But this area real quick, [49:53] Cameron: this area, what you just said, Rebecca, this is where you and Fuentes and Vince and the en4re alterna4ve media space, what has been done successfully, and I would give full credit to this wellspring of the JQ, right? The red pill community, the grouper movement, what have they done? What they have done is smashed the psychological guilt, the residue of empathy that was once there because it is there by default. As you said, Rebecca, we're fair- minded people. That's gone. And what Fuentes did very effec4vely, what he does very effec4vely, is he burns down the chivalrous. That's what he did, and that's very good because as we know, whether it's science or poli4cs, unfortunately, the reality is that progress is made one death at a 4me. The old guard usually doesn't change their way. You have to have a new guard emerge in its place. We have, we don't have that guilt anymore. Instead, we are disillusioned, par4cularly about our plight and our own countries, and that is a very good thing and you guys all deserve tremendous credit for that. [51:10] Cameron: Well, you know, it's not just us that's doing this though. [51:13] Dave: It's not just us that's red-pilling the world on World War II or Hitler. Is it based Muslims? No, it's not. It's actually the Jews themselves. So I would like to take everybody for two minutes and 20 seconds. I'd like to take you all to Shul with me where we are gonna learn a liZle bit about Hitler. Who knows the first two laws that Hitler implemented? Who knows the first two laws? Before the Nuremberg laws. Before that, we're talking about years before it. Hitler first comes into power. What's the first two laws? [51:47] Guest-1: Okay, I'll save you the 4me. Rule number one, no more pornography, [51:52] Rebecca: no more homosexuality, none of that garbage, not allowed. Berlin in the 30s, in the 20s, was the Salomon Gomorrah of the day. Homosexuality, pornography, all the bes4ality, all the garbage of the world, that was the capital of the world. He outlawed it, you're no longer allowed, closed all the bars, all the gay clubs, all the produc4on, which were all run by Jewish people. [52:20] Rebecca: Unfortunately. [52:21] Dave: Second rule, you're not allowed to charge interest. No more interest. Now you would think, why? What does he care about interest? Well, because all the people that had the money that lent the money out were Jews. [52:32] Guest-1: He said no more interest. Why? Because of the high interest that the Jews charged people was so high, it ruined and destroyed the economy in Germany. They destroyed, just like they destroyed Russia. A few years before that, through their communism over there, Jews destroyed Russia. Episode 98 [52:48] Rebecca: Not Green, Jews destroyed. Communism is by Jews. [52:51] Guest-1: Well, don't let anybody confuse you. You look at history, Karl Marx, all the other Hashim. [52:56] Rebecca: He's proud. Wicked, but nonetheless Jews. They destroyed Russia. And he wrote in chapter two of Mein Kampf. They destroyed Russia. Now they're destroying Germany. Go to the store to buy bread. You have to take a whole horse carriage full of money. [53:11] Guest-1: By the 4me you arrived at the store, it wasn't enough. Why? Because the infla4on rate was so high. The bread became so much more valuable and your money went down. And at that 4me, the Great Depression was happening around the en4re world. Everyone was in a financial collapse. America was a financial collapse. England was a financial collapse. Germany collapsed worse than everybody else. But amer he passed this law, within six years, Germany became the leading wealthiest economy in the world. They called it a financial miracle. Why? [53:40] Rebecca: They were the only ones that were bold enough to stop interest. This is one of the biggest reasons of why he hated Jews. [53:47] Dave: Because they destroyed the economy because of their greed. This is happening again. Why is he making this admission? What is this? Aren't we? Thank you very much. Yeah. Rabbi, I appreciate it. That should be required viewing at all schools. Well, that's why I played it. That's why I played it. Because everybody should be aware that even in their own closed circles, when the rubber meets the road, they have to talk about what actually happened in Germany and why they had to construct the Holocaust narra4ve so that nobody can ever look at Hitler or any of the policies of the na4onal socialists were not allowed to go there because they're doing it again. Because they are running Wall Street. They're running the media. They're pushing homosexuality, transgenderism. It's happening again. But all these systems of control are weakening at a rate [54:38] Rebecca: that they cannot visibly compensate for. Right. It's happening at the same rate that it was happening [54:43] Dave: in Spain, Germany, Italy, Romania. But what is their plan? I mean, their plan, I think, is this, that they're going to leave. They're going to go to Israel. And then they're going to pull the rug out from under the American Empire. That's what they want to do. They're going to rug us? [54:56] Guest-1: Yeah. Well, and this is part of the thing. [54:58] Dave: And it's very confusing, especially for people on our side, because we'll see some Israeli types. Like, I had this interview with this Gilad Khotskai. He was like a former Israeli ambassador. We interviewed him in Chicago. And he's very adamant that he wants an end to US aid to Israel, because the aid comes with strings. Because the aid keeps Israel in that parasi4c submissive to what America can always come and say, all right, fuck it. We're not pardoning BB. We're going to prosecute all of you people. We're going to have a color revolu4on in Israel and Episode 98 install a CIA puppet. Right. And they don't want that. They want to be able to control their own thing and not get money from us anymore. Because the money that we're giving to Israel is really going to general dynamics, and Lockheed Mar4n, and Boeing, and all of these different military contractors. If Israel begins manufacturing their own weapons, if they create their own supply chains through their contacts in South Africa, in China, maybe Russia, I don't know. But if they're able to construct their own supply chains, then no longer can we kind of moderate or control. And that's what they want to get away from, because I think they want the world empire. They want Moshe-la. Is this why they're expanding their power to La4n America? I think it could be. Did you see that? [56:23] Rebecca: That was a masterful transi4on. That was a masterful transi4on. [56:25] Guest-1: Very good. Very true. I mean, my tendency is to blame the Jews for every domes4c and foreign calamity. Just to blame the Jews. But I have to think about why. Why are they probably responsible? [56:38] Rebecca: I have to try to be unbiased here. So when you sent me this Isaac Accord thing, I was like, no doubt this is connected in some way to this Venezuela fiasco, to the war in Ukraine. All of these things are connected to Jews are responsible. And of course, nobody's talking about the Isaac Accord. When you men4oned this, I had hardly heard a impact. We might be one of the first, what is it, dissident, or alt-right, or whatever kind of podcast we are. We might be one of the first to talk about this. Can you pull up three also? Not be the last. Yeah, absolutely. OK, so this is from Jerusalem Post. Malay announces launch of Isaac Accord's mee4ng with Israel's foreign minister. Argen4na has formally launched the Isaac Accord's a new ini4a4ve aimed at strengthening poli4cal, economic, and cultural coopera4on between Israel and La4n America. The announcement came during a mee4ng in Buenos Aires. Buenos Aires. Between Malay and foreign Israeli minister, Malay said Argen4na would serve as a pioneer alongside the US in promo4ng the new framework, describing it as a vehicle, to deepen engagement with Israel across a range of strategic fields. Look at that. So what does this mean for Venezuela? We've been talking a lot about Venezuela. Let's pull up three. This is an ar4cle. Venezuela's Jews see no way out. What most frightens Venezuela's increasingly dwindling Jewish community is uncertainty of what comes next. Will the US invade or not? If they decide to aZack, will it be surgical opera4on or something larger that could endanger anyone walking down the street? Venezuelan Jews are now grappling with the consequences of countries moun4ng isola4on. Just days earlier, the Federal Avia4on Administra4on in the US had issued a security no4ce urging airlines and pilots to avoid Venezuelan airspace ci4ng a worsening security situa4on, increased military ac4vity, poten4al GPS interference in turn. Venezuela revoked opera4ng rights for six major interna4onal airlines. Everything got really expensive. People couldn't leave. There were two serious implica4ons on the one hand, it sharpened the sense that some form of US strike might be imminent, promp4ng many Venezuelans to flee, which was made difficult by scarcity of flights and prices. So Malay managed to capture the imagina4on of Jews around the world and Israelis in par4cular with an enthusiasm rarely seen in contemporary poli4cs, kissing the wall, a la kissing the wall. Yet the ini4a4ve he unveiled in recent days aimed for something more than enduring emo4onal symbolism. The challenge for the ambi4ously 4tled Isaac Accords is to become something more than a diploma4c label. The ini4a4ve seeks tangible outcomes on two Episode 98 fronts. First, there are poli4cal and economic dimensions, coopera4on in technology, cyber defense, of course, agriculture, energy, natural resources. Put simply, Israel brings technological prowess, La4n America brings raw poten4al. You know what that means. But there is also an ideological component, one that appeals deeply to Malay. He envisions a regional coali4on of leaders openly suppor4ng Israel, confron4ng an4-Semi4sm and rejec4ng terrorist ideologies. Then there's discussion about who's going to join. Argen4na, Paraguay, Ecuador are already aligned with Israel. Bolivia, maybe in future. And Chile, I don't know, probably not maybe in future. But Brazil's out. And Venezuela is out. So what are they doing? Are they trying to put regional pressure on these na4ons, surround them with Israeli forces and influences, to get the en4re region control, then take its resources? Is that what is happening right now? I think that's exactly what's going on. [60:17] Dave: Because Israel doesn't have anything of its own. They don't have their own oil. They don't have their own gold, silver. They don't have their own metal. [60:25] Dave: They have no natural resources. Oh, I miss Bolivia is in. [60:31] Guest-1: I was wrong, but that's all right. But anyway, so they're trying to shore up [60:35] Dave: their supply lines, independent of the United States, independent of all of these other things. They're trying to become a world empire. And through the Abraham Accords, now through the Isaac Accords, that's what's going on. And that's why I'm nervous about this whole thing. Because it's one thing to be kind of cri4cal of the American empire. And I get it, believe me. I'm not a fan of being the world's policeman. I'm not a fan of all of these foreign wars. But they've all been fought on behalf of Israel. Now, what would be worse is us losing the empire, Israel gaining it, and then us being rubbed economically by the people in charge. And then we would become a third world country. And then, of course, Democrats would get in and then flood the country with Mexicans. That is the worst possible case scenario. And I'm afraid that's where we're headed. Well, why else would they do this? Why else? [61:30] Rebecca: Yeah. Revenge. They would do this for revenge? That's what they did to Spain for revenge. [61:36] Dave: That's what they did to Rome for revenge. That's what they did to England for revenge. They are one of the most vengeful people. They don't do the turn the other cheek. They believe in an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. So if America becomes hos4le to Israel, which is very clear that over the next 20 to 30 years, as the Zoomers come of age, that that's the direc4on that we're going to be going, these people see that, and they're gekng ready to pull the rug. Cameron, in terms of incen4ve, [62:03] Rebecca: is there any other reason? Is there any other impetus for Israel to create the Isaac Accords in La4n America? Okay, so a couple of things. [62:16] Cameron: This is nothing to worry about. Okay, the Abraham Accords are not much to worry about. Episode 98 [62:23] Cameron: There is no Israeli empire. Remember, they're figh4ng a war on eight fronts. They're a country the size of New Jersey, right? They are a basket case of an economy. They are en4rely dependent for virtually everything on the United States. There is a very prominent substacker. You guys probably don't know who he is, but his name is, they go by the moniker Doomburg and they put out excellent geopoli4cal content, largely focused on energy. If you destroyed 10 or 12 key sites in Israel, power sta4ons, desaliniza4on plants, they're done. They're finished. Okay, and what was demonstrated last summer when they skirmished with Iran, it's just how fragile that state is. Never mind the internal disrup4ons that are tearing that country apart. And we've talked before about this, at least 850,000 maybe more of some of their best talent has lem. [63:21] Cameron: Where have they gone? Well, some of them have gone to Cyprus. Some of them have gone to La4n America. Some of them have gone, have come back to the United States or come to the United States, I should say. They have sprinkled around the world. [63:34] Cameron: That does not bode well for the future of Israel. Israel as a state is not long for this world, okay? They are losing. They're losing the propaganda war in the United States, which is really the only ally that maZers anymore. The public sen4ment in Europe has turned against them. Interna4onal sen4ment has turned against them. They are a prior state. And the only reason they con4nue to maZer is because of tremendous Jewish power in the United States that subsidizes APAC and keeps that lobby in place so they can dominate Congress. As we know, that will change. And I think it's gonna change a lot sooner than 50 years or 30 years. We're not gonna have to wait for the Zoomers. This is gonna happen much faster, largely because of the financial catastrophe that's unfolding in the background. That's something that everybody is poli4cal. You think poli4cal change happens poli4cally, it doesn't. It happens from outside the poli4cal system. That's where it's gonna come from. Regarding La4n America, this is a totally different thing. There are Jewish popula4ons all over La4n America. There are prominent Jewish families that live in Mexico City. Some of them live in Medellin, Colombia. And there are more than a few that live in Uruguay and in Argen4na. All of the places I just men4oned, I have been. I've lived in those places. I know where have I speak. Uruguay in par4cular has aZracted a lot of people because of its tax policies. And it's a very small country with a very pleasant climate at the very southern 4p of South America. And you can get from Uruguay to Argen4na in about an hour by ferry. [65:16] Cameron: What's his name? Milay, Javier Milay, who is a Jew and who does run Argen4na, he has made a bet. And that bet is on the American Anglo financial empire, which is why he took some subset of his gold and he shipped it to the Bank of England in exchange for more bailouts from the IMF. He has also opened up his markets to venture capitalists, vulture capitalists from the United States. He has also tried to switch out the Argen4ne peso to dollars. [65:52] Cameron: All of these endeavors are a disaster for Argen4na and the good news is poli4cally speaking, Argen4na is a minefield. And you have to remember that most of La4n America is a total mess. It is an ungovernable collec4on of random thief-doms and basically Ameridian tribal groups that can only be governed by people like Maduro. So trying to referee or control that part of the world, well, good luck to you, have fun with that. The only way you could Episode 98 make a dent in that part of the world is basically to do what the Chinese do. And what they do is they show up and they say, okay, we will build infrastructure for you. We'll build a canal, we'll build a road, we'll build a port, et cetera, et cetera. And in exchange, we get your agro commodi4es. That's it. They don't interfere in the local poli4cs. They don't try to democra4ze, right? They're not trying to instan4ate their hegemony. All they want is something transac4onal. That's fine. That's scalable in that part of the world. But regime change, killing people, trying to take over countries, which we're gonna talk about in just a moment regarding Venezuela, that is a fool's errand. So no, I wouldn't worry about the Isaac Accords. I would not worry about the Abraham Accords. The boZom line is that what we led with tonight, watching Fuentes sort of eviscerate Pierce Morgan, which is pleasing to the eyes in part because Pierce Morgan is such a foppish, arrogant, condescending prick, that sort of hold on power that they have, it's whining, right? It's slipping out of their fingers. And it's happening fast now, everywhere. America's where that baZle is being played out, not La4n America, not the Middle East. And once the rela4onship between Israel and the United States is permanently fractured in the US, and that is where we're headed, that state is not long for this world. Yeah. From your lips to God's ears. I know. I just had to look up, Foppish, what a delighpul and kind of, [67:56] Rebecca: I don't know, gentlemanly way to call somebody a faggot. Dude, the Bri4sh really do have like some of the best. Foppish, concerned with one's clothes and appearance in an affected and excessive way, typically used up a man. Foppish. That's great. This is nice. I like it when he says bedevil too. Yeah. Cameron is definitely like... Pierce Morgan is, you know, [68:18] Cameron: you got to remember what Pierce Morgan is. And for the Brits who watch our show, they'll know exactly what I'm talking about. He's sort of an Anglo-Irish. And a lot of the Anglo-Irish are sort of condescending, right? Because they're not really English. They're not really accepted into the Bri4sh sort of upper class. And so what do they do? They do what all wanna be snobs do. They over-correct, right? And that's Pierce Morgan. He is prickly on purpose. And that's what makes him par4cularly annoying. But he's a good foil for somebody like Fuentes to sort of mow down verbally and otherwise. My point being is that the rela4onship between Israel and the United Kingdom and America, that's it folks. That's where everything is on the line. It's not La4n America. It's not the Middle East. And you beZer bet your ass Netanyahu knows that. He does. They all know it. It's really funny too. [69:14] Dave: Just back to Pierce Morgan for a second. You know, as soon as the interview happened between him and Nick, somebody found out where the guy lived and take a look at his neighborhood. He lives in a 99.7% white neighborhood. Of course he does. And he's like, oh, but my curry. I want my curry. I mean, mom want me curry. It's like I live in the most diverse place in the world in London. Bro. [69:36] Guest-1: Yeah, right. You live in a gated community bro. [69:38] Dave: Shut the fuck up. Cameron, is this to say that you're not concerned [69:42] Rebecca: about the moun4ng militaris4c situa4on in Venezuela? [69:46] Rebecca: Well, that we didn't talk about. Episode 98 [69:48] Cameron: That's a separate issue. [69:50] Cameron: Let's talk about it. Let's get into it. So this week, go ahead. I'm sorry. I thought you were asking me a ques4on. Well, no, no, I was. [69:58] Rebecca: We can talk about it in a second though. So on September 2nd, Hegseth ordered a strike on a shipwrecked, supposed a drug mule boat in the Caribbean. Now two of them survived the ini4al aZack. They're calling this a double tap. And the two that survived that were clinging to the boat were neutralized. [70:23] Rebecca: Hegseth has said before that he and his troops and other commanders are not going to be limited by the rules of engagement. And of course that that clip is now being played ad nauseam. So you can tell, I think that we can all agree if we're being intellectually honest that Venezuela is not the threat to America that it's being portrayed as. They don't, I don't even think they're in the top five or seven of drug suppliers to the United States of America. I mean, if we're really trying to target fentanyl, we'd be at war with Mexico. We get a lot of fentanyl from China, don't we? Yes. And we're not really doing anything about that. So like, yeah, drugs come from Venezuela, but this is not the reason that we're doing this. So I don't know, I've read reports that this has been debunked, that Hegseth never said to kill them, whatever. But why are we striking boats that may or may not? I also read that a quarter of boats in this region do not contain drugs. So like, we're just going to preemp4vely kill everybody on a boat because there's a 75% chance that there's drugs on the boat. Like, what are we doing here? Yeah, we're Franklin targets. Oh, you did? I was like, you know what would be really funny? [71:32] Dave: There's all these Franklin memes. So Pete Hegseth tweeted this out. That's diabolical. It is. But then there's like, Franklin gets a new job. Franklin meets a retard. Franklin enjoys ea4ng bacon in front of PETA protesters. Franklin assists with deporta4ons. Franklin meets the Fuhrer. That's probably the best one. Oh, I like that one too, yeah. [71:55] Guest-1: But it is, on the one hand, it's kind of funny because it spawned this whole meme thing, [71:59] Dave: but at the same 4me, like, Hegseth, that is bizarre. [72:01] Guest-1: He's going to murder people. I know, I know. [72:03] Rebecca: What the fuck? We would never do this in an American city, right? We would give people due process. They would be arrested. [72:09] Dave: Unless you're white. Unless you're white. Yeah, really. [72:13] Rebecca: Anyway, so you have to think, why? Why are we actually doing this? Can you play clip 10? Let's just skip all that jazz, yeah. Clip number 10. [72:24] Guest-1: Number 10. Yes. This is Blumenthal and Judge Napolitano today. [72:30] Guest-1: What is the true reason, as you understand it, that Donald Trump has targeted speedboats in the Caribbean and amassed an armada, a naval armada off the coast Episode 98 [72:49] Rebecca: of Venezuela? Well, I think Venezuela and Nicolas Maduro were always eager for nego4a4ons with Donald Trump. There were nego4a4ons, basically, renew Chevron's license. And Venezuela will work with Trump on accep4ng as many migrant flights as possible. And that's gone. That was the track of Rick Grinnell. [73:12] Guest-1: He was someone who could have been Secretary of State. But he was superseded by Marco Rubio, who represents what I call the Guisano Industrial Complex [73:21] Rebecca: of South Florida, specifically Doral. And these are a few districts which the GIC, [73:29] Guest-1: the Guisano Industrial Complex of Cuban Americans, Venezuelan Americans, and now a large number of right-wing Nicaraguans, uses to hold the Republican Party [73:38] Rebecca: in par4cular hostage because they need to win these districts. So for Trump, this was about domes4c poli4cs. And he finds himself in a situa4on where he has commiZed something like 15% to 20% of the US Navy and its assets, which cost a lot to run every day to the Caribbean and fallen into Rubio's trap, which is to launch this phony drug war as cover for a regime change war that I'm not sure Donald Trump actually wants to wage, but now Trump is in a situa4on where he has to save face. [74:14] Guest-1: So how will he save face? Will he launch the war that Rubio and EllioZ Abrams have called for with special forces in teams aZacking [74:24] Rebecca: Venezuelan bases amer a massive air assault all across Venezuela? Will he just announce that he's killed 100 drug dealers and stopped the poisoning of the US and call it a day? I don't think so. Will he wage symbolic strikes as Bill Clinton did, these pinpoint strikes in Iraq? Kind of a wag the dog scenario. That's also likely. But Donald Trump has to save face now because he's fallen for the trap, which is intended to trigger a regime change war. And we can talk about this more, but anyway, that's it. To 710, right? OK. That's unreal. So Cameron, do you think that he covered all of the important reasons that contribute to our involvement in Venezuela and La4n America? I know you wanted to expound on the Rubio point. He got a lot right. [75:22] Cameron: And man, I'm a big fan of Max Blumenthal. I don't share all of his poli4cs for obvious reasons, but the man does his homework. He's a very good journalist. I have a lot of respect for that. And he takes risks. One of the things about us as white people, and it's very important for all of you listening to adhere to this, we respect people that have courage, that have ability, talent, people that merit respect. That is the paradigm of European individualism. And you should never disavow that, right? So I respect people from all over the world. Doesn't mean I want to live in a mul4racial society. I don't, for obvious reasons. But nonetheless, the man does excellent work, and he deserves our aZen4on and respect. He got a lot right. There's some things that he's missing. And this might be even more important than the JQ stuff that we let off with. And I know that that gets a lot of traffic right now, par4cularly on the right, quote unquote, but that's because a lot of people on the right don't understand the history of the United States. They don't really know where we come from. And a lot of that is coming together in this catastrophe in Venezuela, which is unfolding for a lot of reasons, some of which Episode 98 Blumenthal talked about, a confedera4on of problems that are rapidly descending upon the na4onal iden4ty of the United States, an iden4ty that has been under siege for 50 years, maybe longer, depending on how you look at it. But nonetheless, an iden4ty that's beginning to reorient itself. Sadly speaking, Donald Trump was somebody who did give voice to that iden4ty. However, erra4cally, emo4onally, or incoherently, he did. And this is very important to understand as well, folks, just because somebody tells you what you wanna hear doesn't mean you should trust them. What we have learned about Donald Trump and his liZle MAGA movement is that they are a fraud, that they don't represent the United States. Now, an obvious, an obvious problem that they had at incep4on was APAC. It was the Zionist domina4on of the government. That was true in Trump one. Trump two is even worse. Not only do we have the Zionist problem, not only is Netanyahu more important in Washington DC on Capitol Hill than President Trump is, but we've also got Wall Street that's basically wri4ng legisla4on for the Trump administra4on. We have Silicon Valley that's cashing in on the Griff factory as well. Basically, Trump has communicated that he's pay for play. He's a sort of gangster. He's unmasked himself. Now, what does that mean exactly? What that means, ladies and gentlemen is that he has sold out to I would say the historic enemy of the United States. And who is the historic enemy of the United States? What are the wars that have sort of come to define what this country is that gave it expression that enliven this concept of manifest des4ny? Mexico, Mexico. We fought mul4ple wars against Mexico, right? We're star4ng really in the 1830s in Texas than in the 1840s with the Mexican-American war and we have skirmished with Mexico back and forth ever since. All right, so tuck that away for just a second. [78:58] Cameron: Cortez lands in the Yucatan Peninsula, I think in about 1519. When he gets to the Yucatan Peninsula, you basically have a few peoples that dominate Mesoamerica. Most prominent among them are the Mayans and the Aztecs. And you have various itera4ons of these Amarudian folks all over South America and Mesoamerica. And if you bring up a map of Mexico, Dave, I don't know if you can do that, but Mexico and everything south of Mexico is gigan4c. [79:31] Cameron: Just to give you an example, so all of you are probably familiar with Colorado and Denver, Denver is the mile high city. Mexico City is actually a higher al4tude than Denver, if you can believe it. And the state of Mexico is gigan4c. And the liZle states beneath it, which used to be part of Mesoamerica are also gigan4c. Now, why do I men4on that? When the Spanish conquistadors got to the new world as it were and New Spain is what they christened it, they had a serious problem. And that was you had mass numbers of people that were basically living in extremely dysfunc4onal socie4es, socie4es that had death cults like the Aztecs that were marauding bandits of complete anarchy in most cases. And there was some form of hierarchy. There were a narrow crop of elites at the top, but everybody else was basically servile to them. This is part of the reason why the Spaniards and others like the Portuguese were able to so rapidly conquer all of these massive empires in Central and South America because they were very top heavy. There was no middle class, there was no widespread learning. It was basically a very narrow sliver of elites that had mass control over immense territory. And in some cases, very large civiliza4ons. Once those elites were taken out, those empires collapsed and then the Spanish and the Portuguese found themselves having to rule large numbers of these folks. And what they did is they basically set up viceroy's and they shipped over aristocra4c families that controlled large swaths of this territory. But it was never really civilized. It was never really Episode 98 Europeanized. In no way shape or form did what happened in the United States and in Canada and Australia and New Zealand happened in Central and South America at all. And this is gonna come to count in just a minute. So again, just put that there. The Spanish Empire then basically falls apart in about the 1820s. Mexico declares its independence I think in 1821. And then the various substates inside of Mexico begin to fragment. And that's how you get all of these weird machina4ons whether it's Nicaragua or Honduras or El Salvador. Again, all of that was sort of congealed under the Spanish conquistadors under the viceroy. When that fell everything fragmented. And just south of that, you had something called Gran Colombia. And that was basically the idea that you would take large swaths of territory and create a sort of Neo but locally run empire. [82:28] Cameron: This was the dream of Simone Bolivar which is why Columbia today is s4ll known as the Bolivarian Republic. That included Venezuela, Panama, Ecuador. I mean, parts of other parts of South America as well. Unfortunately that failed and that fragmented as well which is why La4n America looks the way that it does today. Cuba was also part of this as you know. And eventually this en4re thing liquidated and basically what you got were a cohort of people like Maduro. And in La4n America what they call them are caldichos and caldichos are basically military poli4cal leaders. That's the only way to govern La4n America. That's it. There is no democracy, there are no ins4tu4ons, there is no middle class, there is no rule of law. That's it. You have to have a strong man that rules. Okay, fast forward to where we are today. If you go to the 1950s, everything in South Florida in par4cular changed in the United States. Why do I fast forward all the way to there? I skipped over a lot because there was this thing called the Cuban Revolu4on in 1959. In 1959, Fidel Castro, who in 1955 took a trip to Miami [83:46] Cameron: to raise money for the revolu4on in 1959 against Ba4sta, he sent a lot of wealthy Cubanos, some of whom were aristocrats or descended from aristocrats, some were not. And they ended up in Miami. And Miami, by the way, is one of the most wasp, waspy ins4tu4ons that we or towns or communi4es we've ever created. It was created by people like Mary Brickle or Henry Flagler, Collins. I mean, if you go down to Miami and I lived there back in 2022, you'll see all of these beau4ful buildings that are decos all built by wasps and largely by this guy named Henry Flagler who worked for Standard Oil and had just an immense treasure trove of cash and built preZy much everything that's in Florida. West Palm Beach, Miami, everything, okay? A truly great man and a visionary. In any case, that changed in 1959 when you had all of these Cuban emigres, these refugees that showed up in Miami and basically took over South Florida. Now that was compounded in the 1980s by the Morialitas. This is where the movie Scarface comes into play, right? So I know most of you have seen Scarface. That was all these immigrants that were coming from Hai4 and other parts of the islands that ended up in our shores as well. That introduced all kinds of criminality, cartel ac4vity, violence in the street. If you've never seen Miami Vice, Michael Mann Show, you should watch it. A lot of that's true. That's what Miami was really like in those days. This is the genesis of where Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz and many of his ilk come from. These are the folks that have commanded tremendous resources inside the Trump administra4on. This is an expression of the subversion, the subversion of America's na4onal iden4ty and its foreign policy. And Trump has played ball with this because they have paid him to do it. Now, sekng all of that aside, why is this a big problem per se and why does this specifically affect America in terms of its na4onal iden4ty? I'm so glad Episode 98 that you asked. If you go back to 1848, 1849, around the 4me that the Mexican War was fought, there was an open discussion about absorbing Mexico into the empire. In fact, it was debated in Congress. And a truly great man, another visionary from one of the great states in the Union, South Carolina, JC Calhoun, strongly opposed absorbing Mexico. [86:36] Cameron: Why did he oppose it? Well, this is what he said. We have never dreamt of incorpora4ng into our union any but the Caucasian race, the free white race. To incorporate Mexico would be the first instance of the kind of incorpora4ng an Indian race for more than half of the Mexicans are Indians and the others compose chiefly of mixed tribes. I protest against such a union as that. Our sir is the government of a white race. We are anxious to force free government on all and I see that it has been urged that it is the mission of this country to spread civil and religious liberty all over the world and especially over this con4nent. That would be a great mistake. Now, I say all of that because a document was just released called the Na4onal Security Strategy and this document is being widely celebrated, par4cularly by people on the right as some kind of retrenchment of American na4onal security interests. Finally, we're ending the forever wars. Well, if you read that document, given what JC Calhoun said, listen to what the document says. We quote, we want to ensure that the Western hemisphere remains reasonably stable and well governed enough to prevent and discourage mass migra4on to the United States. We want a hemisphere whose governments cooperate with us against narco-terrorist cartels and other transna4onal criminal organiza4ons. Now, if you understand what I just said that La4n America cannot be governed, that to the extent that it has been governed, it's been ruled by these caldice shows, right? These strong men that basically control pockets of ungoverned territory with mass numbers of people. You understand that it is not in our interest to go into the Western hemisphere and try to govern any of these people. And secondly, we don't need to control these areas to prevent mass immigra4on. We need mass expulsions of the illegals that are already here, that pose a direct threat to our na4onal iden4ty. And Marco Rubio and company are a perfect expression of that. They represent the foreign takeover of our government, of our resources, no less than the Israel lobby, except what they want to do is revive the Spanish empire of old. They want to destroy Maduro on their way to regime change in Cuba, and they won't stop there. And why? Because Rubio and Cruz and a lot of these folks, they're descended from the very same viceroy that had the Spanish empire for those centuries since Cortez landed in the Yucatan Peninsula. None of that, ladies and gentlemen, as JC Calhoun said, has anything to do with white America or our interests. This is the bastardized treasonous government that you've got led by a gangster who sold you out. [89:40] Cameron: What a great monologue. That's just brutal. If anybody has any hope lem [89:45] Rebecca: in the presidency of Donald Trump, I hope that that has really sealed the deal for you. Oh yeah, the Cuban lobby is like the next. I don't think this is well known either. People don't know about the Cuban lobby, [89:54] Dave: I didn't know about the Cuban lobby un4l Cameron and I linked up and I'm like, holy shit, there's like a whole thing going on here. Well, it sounds kind of hilarious [90:03] Rebecca: and like it's not real. I think people don't take it seriously on its face. Episode 98 [90:07] Dave: Big Cuba. Big Cuba, right, yeah. But it's true, it's true. And the other thing that I just wanna add to a lot of the stuff that Cameron was saying is just when you look at the history of South America and the Bolivarian Revolu4on and all of that, it would grieve me to not men4on the influence of Freemasonry on all of this because all of those revolu4ons, talking about religious liberty, fraternity, brotherly love and all this bullshit, that was all brought about by the Freemasons as an aZack on Spain. And it's like, they can't self-govern down there. And so breaking the link that they had to Spain and the Catholic faith, which is how they were able, the Spanish and the na4ves were able to live in some, albeit slight rela4ve harmony, there was a lot of racial tension and especially in Quito, Ecuador, which is an interes4ng thing. But yeah, they broke that and go Google Garcia Moreno too. Read about him, he was assassinated. And I think 1884 might be by a Freemason at the order of OZo von Bismarck. [91:23] Dave: So yeah, fuck these people. Fuck the whole thing. What made America work, what makes America work [91:32] Cameron: is what you see on this show, right? Rebecca Hargraves and Cameron McGregor, we descend from the same line. [91:40] Cameron: And Dave, being the Italian and Irish descent that he is, we're the same, we're all Americans because whether you were Polish or you were Italian or you were Bri4sh or you were German, you came to the United States and you were able to buy into a white culture that was subordinated to an Anglo-American na4onal iden4ty. That's what America is. That stops once you move beyond Caucasian peoples. And so what we have here with Marco Rubio is somebody that is not an American. He doesn't represent our interests and that's what we must understand. That's why this is not just about the JQ, folks. This is about our iden4ty as a people. Who the fuck are we? We've got to sort through that out. We've got to look at ourselves in the mirror and say, look, enough is enough. We are not a Spanish-speaking country. We have nothing in common with Mexico or La4n America. The fault line is the Rio Grande. And unfortunately that fault line has been a malleable membrane for the beZer part of 30 years. And a lot of that isn't even the special interest groups and the propaganda. It's our negligence. And specifically the wasp elite that wanted to buy into all this crap and pretend that all these racial tensions could somehow be modified [93:05] Guest-1: by some bullshit civic na4onalism. That was never going to work. [93:11] Cameron: Because fundamentally speaking, Dave Riley, Rebecca Hargraves, Cameron McGregor, whatever, we're the same. We're basically the same. The rest of these people, they ain't. They're different. Yeah. By the way, the Garcia Moreno thing that I pulled up, he was assassinated in 1875. [93:30] Dave: I was off by 10 years. So close. But I was very close. I actually think that we should ditch this last segment. [93:36] Rebecca: We've gone very long. It's very late for Cameron. [93:39] Dave: We were gonna get into stuff about Pu4n. I know. Episode 98 [93:42] Rebecca: Yeah. But we've gone long. We can do it. [93:45] Dave: We can do it some other 4me. Okay. [93:47] Rebecca: If you want. Cameron, how about you go to bed? Do you want to go to bed? Do you want some super chats? I got 20 minutes. Let's do some super chats for 20 minutes. Okay. I guess get your last minute super chats into my channel or the backlash.net slash super chat, $10 and up on the Wednesday stream. Absolutely. [94:04] Dave: But first we got to give a brief shout out to above 4me coffee roasters. They make the best hand roasted small batch coffee that you've ever had in your life. I've been drinking it religiously in the mornings. It's absolutely fantas4c. It's really tweaked out all the 4me. [94:21] Rebecca: It's very annoying. Yeah. [94:23] Dave: I'm like tex4ng the group chat like, hey, what if we had this? What if we had that? I'm like sikng here like sipping on coffee, adding clips. But they've got a new espresso roast. I highly recommend the blonde roast. It's absolutely fantas4c. Please visit above4mecoffee.com and you can use a discount code backlash10 for 10% off of your order with above 4me coffee roasters. [94:47] Dave: So with that, let's get into some of these super chats. [94:53] Dave: What's today's date? The 10th? [94:55] Rebecca: The 10th. We should really get like an intro song or something. It'd be really good. Okay. [95:02] Dave: Queensborough Bridge and Joyer sent $10. Cam, great Roy Cone reference. Amazingly, Cone also served as the primary advisor subver4ng Joseph McCarthy's Kami inves4ga4on ul4mately diver4ng aZen4on away from the actual ethnicity of most Kami spies and instead focusing on Gen4les. [95:19] Dave: Yeah. I'm not surprised. I think Dave, I think you know more about Roy Cone [95:23] Cameron: than I do. Yeah. [95:25] Dave: Maybe. I mean, he was definitely like a mentor to Donald Trump. He was working with McCarthy. He's the one that passed off the bogus list of Kamis to McCarthy that discredited McCarthy. He was in bed with Louis Rosens4el, Meyer Lansky and all the Jewish gangsters that were involved in Blackmail. He was kind of like a Jeffrey Epstein of his day. Yeah. [95:47] Rebecca: And so, yeah. Definitely a great mentor to have. Oh, jeez. Isn't there like a movie? [95:53] Dave: There's like a movie about Donald Trump that came out a couple of years ago and there's like a scene where like somebody walks in on like Donald Trump giving Roy Cone a blowy. What? Oh yeah, you haven't seen this? There's clips of it that float around every now and again. Episode 98 Who's Bubba? Yeah, who's Bubba? Is it Bebe? Is it Bill Clinton? Yeah, what was it? Was it Trump movie? [96:20] Dave: Let's see. It was The Appren4ce? 2024? [96:27] Dave: Hold on. [96:29] Dave: Oh, yeah. See, this is the movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, there's Donald Trump in the car and Roy Cone. We're not gonna play it, but yeah. Interes4ng. [96:37] Guest-1: The whole movie is about Donald Trump and Roy Cone. [96:40] Cameron: A great movie that all of you guys should watch. I don't know if you two have seen it actually, but a great movie that really delves into all this stuff is Lolita, 1962. And specifically Peter Sellers' character, a guy named Claire Quilty. That's basically who Epstein is. And my own personal theory is that that's what Kubrick's films are all about. Essen4ally exposing this dark underworld of the elites and their destruc4on to some degree. Are we gonna get copyrighted for this? No, I don't think so, but yeah, here's the scene that I was talking about. Lolita's a fantas4c book. This was from The Appren4ce. Thank you, Donald. [97:20] Cameron: 24-carat American patriot and a friend. I know you're gonna go on to do a lot of things that would make me very proud. What? Thank you. [97:42] Guest-1: Well, it's not over yet, Roy. [97:44] Guest-1: What? [97:45] Cameron: My life? [97:47] Cameron: Let's hope not. Maybe not too nice. Stay alive for a liZle longer. It's like really creepy, the whole movie, but yeah, there's like a really weird like gang bang scene [97:54] Dave: where they show Donald Trump like, you know. [97:59] Dave: Okay, I get it, yeah. Yeah. By the way, Roy Cohn died of AIDS. He was a freak. I don't know, anyway. All right, moving on. [98:07] Cameron: Queensborough bridge enjoyer sent another $10. Cohn's subversion to McCarthy and Trump [98:12] Dave: is the same tac4c Meyer Lansky used on Lucky Luciano and the Italian mafia. A Gen4le serves as the public face who absorbs the blame while the tribe runs things behind the scenes. He gets exactly what it wants. This guy is smart and he has a third super chat from Queensborough bridge enjoyer with Blonde's recent humble brag about her immense power over men and advoca4ng for cleavage in society. Many people are saying that she should prove it by manipula4ng Peter Steele of TwiZer, Will Stansel into appearing on the show. Oh, I'd love to get Will Stansel on. Episode 98 [98:44] Rebecca: I don't remember making any claims that I have some sort of, I just said that women should leverage their sexual powers. We hear about it every pre-produc4on mee4ng, guys. Cover up, wear dresses, no more pants. [98:58] Guest-1: We goZa get rid of the pants. I know, the camera's like more cleavage. More show cleavage, we're trying to get them views. Thank you for the big- [99:04] Cameron: I would never. Thank you for the big super chats, Queensboro bridge enjoyer. [99:10] Dave: We got a big $50 super chat from Reinhardt. [99:13] Dave: Thank you for the big super chat. Happy millennial. If you haven't checked it out, then find millennial woes on rumble and catch the best and most highly an4cipated series of interviews of the year. Has it started? It is star4ng soon. How soon? Very soon. He's been twee4ng about it. I'm very excited. I believe Cameron and I are gonna be on this year. It'll be my debut on millennial. Together? No, separately. Yeah. You wish. [99:41] Dave: The backlash is gonna be like taking up like a grand total of like 5% of all of the millennial content. So you're definitely- I've been trying to get Cameron in [99:50] Rebecca: on some of the Monday interviews and he like agreed to one. And he was like, this will be the only one. This is it. That's it. [99:59] Dave: It's over. It was because, Rebecca, [100:01] Cameron: I can't show off my cleavage more than once a week. [100:05] Cameron: I have no such rules. Oh my God. My quote is my quote. Quad Scripsy Scripsy, right? [100:13] Dave: Son of Rasmus sent $10. Period blood is gross. I stand with Nick. That was so bizarre. True. But Pierce Morgan, I don't know if you watched it. Have you ever seen a tampon? Have you ever seen a tampon, Nick? Yeah. [100:27] Dave: I mean, it was right amer his line [100:28] Rebecca: of ques4oning about whether he's or not he's a virgin, but like when you're engaged in sexual ac4vity with a woman that those don't go hand in hand. No. I'm not showing my husband my tampon. I thought it was such a bizarre line of ques4oning. Listen, if you're ever in one of these, [100:43] Dave: God awful, all gender bathrooms and you see like a 4ny liZle trash can. Don't open it. Don't open it, okay? Don't open it. And you will never have to deal with any of this. Can't women have some mystery? [100:58] Dave: You people. You know, what's so amazing, [101:01] Cameron: and I didn't watch the, other than the clips that you guys showed, I didn't see the interview, but what's so amazing is that if you do watch Fuentes and I know Dave and Episode 98 Rebecca watches him consistently, but is there anybody that could challenge Fuentes in terms of chaos media, in terms of what he does? Of course not. You're gekng into the boxing match with Ali and his prime or Tyson. You know you're gonna get knocked out. So why in God's name would you come in and throw haymakers? Why would you not just try to have a conversa4on with the guy and just say, hey, listen, you know, let it sort of be nice to him. Get him to relax. Instead, you're gonna get haymakers un4l you're knocked out. And that's what happened. I mean, these people, they're just not smart. They're just not smart. [101:56] Cameron: They are not smart. [101:57] Dave: They aren't, and it's so funny to all of these, like there's, the opinion has been kind of split amongst like Jews. There's the Mark Levin group that's like, oh, we got to cancel him. We got to get rid of him. We've got to expunge him from society, blah, blah, blah, right? Like that's opinion one. And then opinion two is like this group of naive people that are like, no, we should let him air out what he believes, put him on all the interview shows, let him talk. The more that he talks, the more people will hate what he has to say. And it's like, you're retarded. Yeah. You are so stupid. This reminds me of how, of how they handled Trump. [102:37] Cameron: Right? And again, go back to 2016 and it was the same. Every interview was basically choreographed the same way. The interviewer says, did you really say this? Did you really call Rosie or Donald on the page? Did you really, did you really demonize this group? Every single interview. Nobody thought, well, maybe I should take a different approach for this guy. Nobody. Incredible. Oh, there was a clip that I put. It's incredible. It's a clip that I put in the thing that we didn't play. Let me play this real quick. I know we're in super chat, but it is so funny, right? Pierce Morgan thinks he's got an absolute knockout blow. I'm gonna play the clip where you talk [103:15] Guest-1: about imprisoning black people. Okay, watch this. You're always coming up with, no, it's not the Jews. No, it's not women. No, it's not blacks. [103:25] Rebecca: It's actually really complicated. No, it fucking isn't at all. [103:31] Guest-1: Jews are running society. Women need to shut the fuck up. [103:34] Rebecca: Blacks need to be imprisoned for the most part. [103:38] Rebecca: And we would live in paradise. It's that simple. That's 100% true. Everything I said in that clip is true. Including that blacks need to be imprisoned [103:48] Dave: for the most part. [103:50] Dave: Yeah, yes. Look at them. All of them. Look at them. No, for the most part. What does the most part mean? What percentage of American blacks would you like to see in prison? [104:01] Dave: Whatever the percentages of the murderers. I think it's one in 20 black men [104:05] Guest-1: will commit a murder in their life4me. So maybe let's say that 5%. Oh, so you're talking about black people who murder people? Yeah. Oh, absolutely, yeah. But you didn't Episode 98 say that. You just said blacks need to be imprisoned for the most part. You didn't clarify that you were talking about black murderers. Right, right. No, you're right. That's a good addi4on to that. That's a great point. Do you think it's funny or? Yeah, I do. I think it's hilarious. I think it's totally true. Do you think a black American would find it funny? You think that blacks should be imprisoned for the most part? Blacks are my biggest fans. [104:40] Rebecca: I get high fives all the 4me. They say, Nick Fuentes, I love your show. They agree with me. That's straight out of Donald Trump right there. Here's the difference. Black people are the most vic4mized by other black people. You think black people want to live in the hood and the gheZo and get shot all the 4me? That's what happens in the South Side of Chicago. You should come here. I'll take you there. [104:59] Guest-1: We could go to Garfield Park. What do they say? Yeah, hold on. I don't agree with what they're going to say. If you're to ask me, do I think that people that kill people need to go to jail? I think that's an undeniable fact. For sure. I think that a lot of the crime [105:15] Rebecca: against other black people that comes from black people is a problem. We've said that on this channel 100 4mes. Two plus two. I mean, it's like. [105:25] Dave: So anyway, needless to say, it fell flat in the black community. Well, Nick's charisma4c and black people [105:31] Rebecca: respond to charisma. They also respond to people that can just speak plainly [105:35] Dave: and directly. And it's true. And they live in it. [105:37] Cameron: I don't mean to bust your bubble. That has made no impact on the black community. No, I am probably. That's not going to change a goddamn thing, all right? So let's not get too excited. But it's not going to nega4vely impact [105:49] Rebecca: the black community either. What? No, no. [105:51] Cameron: But again, this is not about persuasion. This is about tribalism. And what you heard there from the blacks is just, yeah, our community is fucked up. But that's because things are really bad in Chicago. They're really bad in Philadelphia. And they're so bad, again, it's becoming unignorable. That's the truth. But that doesn't mean that they share his vision or his opinions. Oh, right. There's a sharp dividing line between those two things. Oh, sure. [106:17] Dave: Sure, sure. Absolutely. Let's see. Mojaxent $10 on Rumble. If you come to the realiza4on that the Holocaust is nothing. If you come to the realiza4on the Holocaust is nothing but a Jewish sigh-up, then you have to think maybe Hitler wasn't the literal personifica4on of evil. Yes, that's right. Bingo. Well, again, it's like everything else, right? [106:39] Cameron: If you're talking about this war in Ukraine, well, the Russians are evil because they invaded. OK, well, why did they invade? What happened before they invaded, right? It's the same thing with na4onal socialism or Bolshevism. Any of these things, there is always context. And if you forbid that, if you say, hey, look, this is unacceptable, we can have no context, you've created, ironically enough, you've created a glass house. And all it's going to take is a small Episode 98 pebble to chip away at that, just to shaZer it completely. And finally, that's what's happened, finally. Yep. [107:17] Dave: Nick Fuentes is like David and Goliath. Anyway, Zio sent $12. If the Nazis won the war, would they have eventually detonated a nuclear weapon? Is this a real ques4on? I don't know. How many elephants can stand on the head of a pin? God knows. No, they certainly not. I don't think they would have detonated a nuclear weapon. As a maZer of fact, Adolf Hitler prohibited the use of poison gases in the war. Like, he was the only one that was like, hey, guys, let's not do the mustard gas. I was there, I got hit with that. I don't want to do that. I don't think we should have used the A bomb. [107:57] Cameron: Neither do I. I agree. I think that was a big mistake. And I think that the United States set a very dangerous precedent in doing that. Nobody should have used that bomb. Yeah, no, it's immoral. [108:08] Dave: We shouldn't have it. It should be used for energy. It shouldn't be used for death. Cameron's secret harem sent $10. Since China is infla4ng its currency out of control, could China use the A war in China to try to save the yuan like World War Two did for the dollar? Could Cameron and Dave also comment on Japan raising its interest rates and the consequences of that? Cameron, take it away. The premise of the ques4on is false. [108:38] Cameron: China is not infla4ng their currency into oblivion. They are, it seems, experiencing some kind of a defla4onary event. And they do have problems in their banks. That is a hangover from a property bubble that was pricked several years ago. Couple things about China. China is not really a state. It's more of a civiliza4on, OK? And I say that in part because it's gigan4c. So the economic condi4ons in China are very province by province, city by city. It's just too difficult to say holis4cally what shape they're in. That being said, they have extremely competent leadership that has done a few things. One is they have accumulated, and Dave knows this very well, massive amounts of gold, massive amounts that they started accumula4ng in 2002 when they created something called the Shanghai Gold Exchange, which I believe has changed the monetary world forever. I think, in fact, it has disrupted this sort of legacy Rothschild banking system as we understand it today. If you want to learn more about that, check out my substack. Regarding the second ques4on about Japan, I think that, and I sort of badger Rebecca and Dave about this, and I think they're sick of hearing me talk about it, frankly. And I don't blame them. [110:08] Cameron: I think that a tsunami of financial destruc4on is beginning to make landfall in Japan. Right now, they are in the debt trap. They have a 10-year yield, so that's interest on JGBs, Japanese government bonds. That's flir4ng with 2%. That's the highest it's been in about 30 years. The problem with that is that they have the largest on-balance sheet debt of any na4on in the world as a percentage of their economy. It's massive, so I think we're at like 130% debt to GDP. They are, I think, 240%. Yeah, 229. 229, thank you, Dave. It is massive, and it's blowing up. And at the same 4me, their currency is also losing value. Now, here's the other side of the story. The reason that maZers is that there's something called the yen-carry trade. The yen-carry trade is a legacy of really the last 30 years in which the Japanese, who implemented bailouts as we understand them, they bailed out everything when the Japanese bubble burst at the end of the Episode 98 80s and the beginning of the 90s. And just to be clear with you, in the late 80s, real estate in the city of Tokyo was worth more than the en4re state of California. That's how inflated everything was. And it popped. [111:34] Rebecca: It just collapsed. But instead of lekng the bubble burst [111:38] Cameron: so that they could liquidate and restructure, what they did is they bailed everybody out, and they've been carrying this burden ever since, and so the debt's goZen bigger and bigger and bigger. Well, now, finally, it seems it's over. Their debt is gekng liquidated, their currency is collapsing, and so something to the tune of $10 to $20 trillion may be more that's been invested in the United States specifically in U.S. stocks and in treasury bonds, that's beginning to reverse. And now there are cracks in the repo market, there's cracks in the treasury bond market, and there's problems in the stock market. This is the beginning, folks. Over to you, Dave. Yeah, no, that's it. Just the only thing I would add to that is check back at atlasboyon.com slash backlash. At some point, they will be back up and running with accurate pricing, and you should be hedging on that. I mean, I think China's doing the smart thing, they're buying gold, [112:39] Dave: and I think that's what we should be doing, too. So that's really all that I have to add to that. [112:48] Dave: And real UberMech sent $25, $6 million. It could be 100 4mes that number. Did he say that? I think he did. [112:59] Dave: Cameron is shaking his head disapprovingly. Big mad lad. He sent $10. Me mom was water bathed, wait, wait, wait, fuck. Me mom was masturbated to death and turned into North Idaho Tallow soap. So you shouldn't have a country. [113:18] Dave: You're going to get us fired. [113:21] Guest-1: Listen, all of the soap at itahotallow.com comes from grass-fed beef. [113:28] Guest-1: Hey, oh, hey, no, no, it's grass-fed beef cow fat. It's wonderful. It's good for your skin, it's good for your face. [113:35] Dave: It makes you look good, it makes you smell good. I'm using it in my hair as a nice hair pomade. You can get soaps, balms, and lip balms without endocrine disruptors or bullshit fragrances that are all bad for you and they disrupt your hormones. So ditch the synthe4c garbage and switch to North Idaho Tallow Company. You s4ll have a couple of days where you can get free shipping on orders over $100 and you can also get their amazing Christmas gim set thing. They've got like a, where is it here? The signature gim box ready to gim for 45 bucks. It comes with two ounces of TallowBomb, a Tallow soap, and chaps4ck. And it's all delivered right to whoever you want to give it to. Wonderful stuff. They do not use human fat. Yeah. Thank you. I mean, I knew Tallow soap was good. [114:26] Cameron: I didn't know it was that good. Oh, it's the best. Thank you for not firing us. Let's see. Episode 98 [114:32] Dave: Robertson, $25. Indians run the hotels, cab driving, job recruitment, customer service, cannabis shops, gas sta4ons, Amazon delivery, IT jobs, et cetera, et cetera. And now, coming to a head-on collision near you, the trucking industry. What is even lem for average Americans? Yeah. It is so bad. Just learn to code, bro, [114:54] Rebecca: so that AI can take your job. It's not good. [114:56] Dave: We need to. And this is why it's so important to build fraternal networks, to build parallel ins4tu4ons, parallel economies around you with the people that see the world the way that you see it, because everyone else is gonna get blindsided by a lot of this shit anyway. Yeah, so just a couple of things on this. [115:19] Cameron: When I'm asked about the stuff Fuentes says or I'm asked about Candace Owens or Tucker or the JQ or whatever, the upshot of those ques4ons is always sort of what we talked about tonight. Like, isn't this so impacpul? Isn't this so evenpul? Isn't this such a transforma4ve moment? And omen4mes, and I know it pisses off a lot of the grippers in the audience, but a lot of 4mes my response is muted. And I wanna explain why that is. The theater of things is very important to Americans. We love entertainment. We love the fucking World Wrestling Federa4on. We love NFL. I mean, if you were to channel the rage that you hear on Sports Talk Radio and I love sports, I consume a lot of sports media myself. If you listen to Monday morning amer a big football weekend, you're gonna hear massive rage, demanding accountability, demanding people get fired, demanding players are traded if a par4cular team does not win, right? Especially if it's one of America's big teams, whether it's the Dallas Cowboys or it's the Patriots or it's the Lakers or the Cel4cs or whatever. [116:36] Cameron: We love entertainment. That's what we do. We omen get lost in entertainment. We omen think that the entertainment is the substance when really it's not, it's just the sizzle. What is the substance? There was an ar4cle that came out a couple of weeks ago. I sent it to both Rebecca and Dave and I said, fucking read this. I send them a lot of stuff, but it's very important. It was called My Life is a Lie. Oh yeah. And it was wriZen by a very bright guy, a Wall Streeter to be sure, but a bright guy named Michael Green. And he is I think the chief strategy officer for simplify investments. You can find it on Substack, Dave, you wanna bring it up. My life is a lie. In this essay, which I think is one of the most important essays that has been wriZen in the last five years, okay? It's very, very important and you should all read it. It went viral on TwiZer, on Substack. Everybody that has a keen interest in macroeconomics, finance, government sta4s4cs, what have you is reading it. What he argues is that the poverty line, which officially in the United States is about $32,000 a year for a household of four, that that is a total fraud, that that is a legacy of the 1960s, a 4me when the cost of rent, the cost of healthcare and the cost of childcare were more or less under control. And so that number, which is basically a deriva4on of the cost of food. So the calcula4on was that if you're only making two or three 4mes bare minimum, what it cost to buy food, that you're basically at the poverty line. Anything below that is in need of government assistance. Well, according to Michael Green's sta4s4cs, the new number adjusted for infla4on and real cost should be about $140,000 a year for a household of four. Now, if that's the case, that means that 80% of the middle class, and remember, we're living in a great economy. Donald Trump, who's throwing fucking Gatsby Episode 98 par4es at Mar-a-Lago told me, hey, the economy's great, it's the golden age. 80% of Americans are working poor. They're basically living at or below the poverty line. They're barely making it. And what Green says is something that I've talked about since the beginning of this podcast, that the social contract is broken. When social contracts break, folks, that's when you get revolu4ons. So is that something? Is that nothing? Is that everything? That is everything. And that's gonna change this country forever. It's gonna, it's going to completely transform our system of government and the people that are in power when this whole thing blows up. And I think it is. I think it's beginning to. They're gonna be held accountable for this shit. And I think it's gonna get very ugly. Yeah, I think you're right. [119:45] Dave: I think you're right. We've got a big super chat from Anonymous. A lot of love, friends. Thank you for the big super chat. We do appreciate it. North Idaho Talos and $10, great show. Thank you all for so much of support. Your orders are going out as quickly as I can. I'm restocking daily to try and keep up. And I appreciate your pa4ence. I'm so humbled by your support. This is the last week for Christmas orders. Yes, so please get your Christmas orders into IdahoTalo.com if you haven't already. We've got a $12 super chat from Zio who says, I understand the desire not to use the A-bomb. Considering the white race is already suicidal and self-destruc4ve, having others use A-bombs on you would be a preZy quick way to do that. Yeah, yeah, very true. We do have some super chats over on Entropy. Finally, it's working this go around. Look at this, it's working. Wow, well done, Entropy, working one 4me. Large, loud black woman sent $10. When I see Dave chimp out on Blonde, that when I know he not part Italian, but he pot nigga. [120:52] Dave: Thank you for the super chat. K-Max McDonald sent $10 saying, was the one part you thought was cringe by Nick was men4oning having all these black and Jewish friends. Did you feel like Nick was implying that he has more black and Jewish friends than he does white ones? I'd hope that we are s4ll a majority white as a movement. Oh, for sure. But I mean, look at how Nick spent Thanksgiving. Kanye West. Yeah, but he does do the I have a black friend thing. Yeah, it's funny. It's funny because it's like he does it anyway and it doesn't work. He spent Thanksgiving with Kanye West. Yeah, yeah, it was like Kanye, Sneeko, a couple of other people they posted some. That's why Myron fell off, right? Myron like had Milo on the show. There's like all kinds of drama happening right now. I don't care. Yeah, okay, anyway. [121:40] Cameron: I don't find that cringe. What I think, if I had to cri4que, you know, the brief clips that I saw, that the problem that I have with it, and for those of you young men that are watching this, listen to what I'm saying, okay? It's very important for you to understand the environment that you're opera4ng in, to shim gears depending on what plaporm you're on. This is something, for example, that our dear president does not do very well. He's a one-speed kind of guy, probably because he ain't that smart, right? [122:17] Cameron: And I came across a quote from his mother, actually. I don't know if you guys have seen this, but his mother basically said, you know, he has no common sense, and he has no business going into poli4cs, but he is my son, something like that. Donald Trump's mother said that? [122:35] Guest-1: Yeah, she did that. I'll send it to you guys. Episode 98 [122:38] Cameron: You could probably find it on TwiZer, but as far as I know, it's a viable quote. But my point is that we are now moving into a different stage of the cycle. And look, all jokes aside, there's a lot of substance to what was said in that interview. A lot of substance. These are fucking hard ques4ons that need to be asked. We need to go and dig deep and find out, hey, what the hell really happened in the 1930s and 40s? Why did things go so disastrously wrong? How did we get into this posi4on? And so trea4ng that issue with more seriousness, with a more analy4cal framework, I think would have served him beZer than sort of just reflexively throwing bombs here and there. The 4me to throw bombs has come and gone, in my opinion. Now is the 4me to say, okay, we're gonna make a forceful argument based on the facts, based on the substance of the case, and you're not gonna shut us down with this reflexive racism or some kind of excoria4on. That ain't gonna work. [123:47] Cameron: Pukng more teeth, more substance into that, I think that would have served him beZer in that debate, par4cularly in front of a Bri4sh audience that wants to hear more, frankly, about the past specifically amongst the youth. So you need to have different gears. Some4mes you goZa downshim, some4mes you goZa upshim. That's very, very important. And now is the 4me to flesh out these arguments and say, hey, what the hell really is going on here? That's what we must do. That's the next step. [124:20] Cameron: Yeah, let's see, K-Mex McDonald sent $10. [124:24] Dave: What did you think about the part where Nick Fuent has men4oned Europeans dying out and peers asked him, have you ever had sex before? [124:32] Dave: Do you both tend to be fine with Nick preaching that we need more white babies while not moving much on this goal himself? Yeah, I mean, I'm of the opinion [124:40] Rebecca: that people should fit into the movement where their abili4es lie. And it should be kind of an organic thing. And he's right that if he had a wife and children for them, this would be a nightmare. It would just be a nightmare. And he's doing the best he can and he's celibate. And I'm not gonna come through the screen and help him raise his kids. [125:04] Guest-1: He's doing what he can for the movement. And nobody's gonna do that, right? [125:07] Dave: What I wanna know is from the wig mats that have a problem with this, where's the cri4cism of Hitler for not having kids and not gekng married? I mean, you know. And the thing about the birth rate is it can turn around really quickly [125:18] Rebecca: and we're not under any moral obliga4on to outbreed our invaders. But we are. No, we can't outbreed our invaders because they're coming in and having six kids and there are millions and millions and millions of them. Even if the white birth rate got to like six right now, I mean, it would be beZer for us. Well, I guess when I say we are, I mean like in my church or whatever. Yeah, Catholics are under moral obliga4on. But, you know, I have two children. I get a lot of flack about that. And I feel, you know, I'm 38. I'm like, if I have a child with a major disability or Down syndrome, are all you people gonna come and fucking help me? Like we have to allow some personal autonomy and major life decisions for people. Episode 98 [125:56] Dave: You need another kid. Oh my gosh. Do it, do it, do it. Everyone's like your son, your husband needs a son. I'm like, all right. Yes, he does. He needs an heir. What are you talking about? [126:06] Rebecca: He will have a third daughter for sure. He'll have a third daughter. What is he, Henry VIII? Okay. [126:11] Dave: Listen, we'll get your husband to talk with. Vince has like the formula. Cause he had two girls. You know how many 4mes I've tried to have boys? Have you tried the jackhammer yet? I don't make me answer that. Okay. I, both of my girls were supposed to be boys. You goZa use gravity. Okay. You goZa use gravity. [126:31] Rebecca: Yes, I've read all the studies. I did all the stuff. Okay. I'm so happy with my girls. I'm not at all disappointed that they're boys. Once you have men with higher testosterone, like my husband, they have more daughters. And once you have two daughters, Is that true? Yes. Once you have two daughters, the chance of your third child being a daughter is 70%. Have you tried buying him some endocrine disrup4ng soap? Oh, okay. And then having. I will have him use dove on his balls. There you go. And then we'll try again so that I can have a female down syndrome baby when I'm 40. That's awesome. Great plan, Wig Nats. Great fucking plan. What's the jackhammer? [127:08] Rebecca: We'll have to bring Vince back on to explain it to everybody. Don't Google it. I just want a diagram. That's all I need. No, no, no, no. I can explain this in a way that's not tawdry, okay? So, male sperm, they. You're not doing yourself any favors on this. Not male sperm, you know what I mean. Do not pass code. Do not collect $5. They swim faster. And they're a liZle more aggressive. They die faster, but they swim faster. So if you can catch the, like if you don't have sex during your en4re fer4le window, but you catch those moments before ovula4on, you have a higher chance of having a boy. Also, if you can. If you can put the woman in the corner of the room on her head and then, you know. So also there's a theory that if you penetrate more deeply. Okay, that's tawdry thing. Oh, okay. [127:59] Guest-1: Gorilla. I mean like analy4cally. Gorilla hand sent $10. [128:04] Dave: Merry Christmas. My parents watch this. My parents watch this too. Oh dear Lord. [128:11] Cameron: Okay, I think that gets us all caught up there. I'm gonna go check. I got some on my channel too. Yeah, please read the ones that you got on your channel. It's been real. [128:20] Rebecca: Thank you so much for your insighpul commentary. As always, see you next Wednesday, Cam. All right, folks, have a good night. Sleep 4ght. Help us get to our goal. Give us some of that Christmas money. Now, no, everybody spend the money on your kids. What are you talking about, Dave? I mean, I don't know. Okay, it is December. I've got that one. Ninth. I've got the Tomahawk. Oh no, no, no. I haven't got Tomahawk sent $10. Are you familiar with MaZ Bracken? I think you would make a great guest Episode 98 [128:48] Dave: if you could get him on the show. I've not heard of MaZ Bracken, but if you send me a DM on TwiZer with his at, I will take a look and we'll reach out and see what we can do. Somebody said a cheat lady had a child at 70. [128:59] Rebecca: Yes, it was through IVF. [129:02] Rebecca: Mojack sent another $10. [129:04] Dave: Oy vey, the Jews are perfect in every way. We must always remember the 600 gazillion that were gayest in the Holocaust. They are our greatest ally, [129:12] Guest-1: now wai4ng for my $7,000 check. Yeah, really? Somebody in Israel, please send Mojack, $7,000. And send us $7,000. [129:20] Rebecca: That would go a long way. Oh, Wilfred P, the Finkelstein soap and lampshade company. He also said it should one day do a breakdown of the edited Benjamin Friedman speech. I haven't read that. The Benjamin Friedman speech, that is so good. [129:33] Dave: That was one of my first red pill moments. I think the last 4me I listened to it was in 2017. For me, I remember where I was at the HyaZ in Kansas City at a conference in October of 2015. That was the first 4me that I heard that one. We've been around for so long. This Jewish guy that converted the Catholicism and then I think he spoke with Fulton Sheen and then came out and outed the whole thing. And he was like, this is what we're doing. Yeah, we're running your shit. And like you guys got a wise up because, you know. He's a regular Bobby Fisher. Great speech. What was the name of it again? Benjamin Friedman. Benjamin Friedman, yeah. I think it's from the 60s. That's your homework, go Google. Yeah, I think 1964 around that 4me. 61, 61. [130:18] Rebecca: Sugarfully, love your show, listen to you at work. You guys give me existen4al dread and hope at the same 4me. Thank you for all you do. That is really what we're trying to do. Scare the shit out of him and then give him hope. Well, I don't know. I mean, you know, the first year of a show, cause we just hit a year, you're working out some growing pains. You're finding out how to interact with each other and you're trying to find out what the show is about. And we're s4ll struggling with that a liZle bit. But I think that, you know, Cameron has a tendency to give people a realis4c perspec4ve about what's going on. And it's some4mes very hopeful and some4mes it's just devasta4ng. Today I'm going to go with devasta4ng. That, that monologue on. That monologue on the, on the Cuban cabal. Yeah, most people don't know that. And it's like, we're gekng hit from all sides here. Yeah, people don't know that there's more. [131:08] Dave: I mean, the Qatari influence is true. That is real. I mean, we're dealing with, they're pukng in a fucking air base in Idaho. I don't want that. Nobody wants that in the state. So you do, you have influence from Qatar, Israel, the Cubans, there's influence from the Russians. We saw a tenant media and all that. So, yeah, we need like Americans in control of America. Okay, the tenant media thing was nothing. It wasn't actually Russian influence. Huge scandal, massive scandal. And everybody associated with it, or even, you know, one degree removed is suspect. Okay, listen, I will puff up the tenant media scandal Episode 98 [131:48] Rebecca: because it's a way to undercut MaZ Christensen. But that's really the only reason. There was nothing there. There was nothing there. They've dropped all the charges. Everybody involved should be totally exonerated. He's a douchebag for other reasons, but it's not, it's not that. Yeah, yeah, I don't know how we feel [132:05] Dave: about the Russian skinheads. Somebody just said, tenant equals MaZ is gay. Yes. All right. Well, if that's it for you, I think that might be it for us. I cut whole segments today. [132:19] Rebecca: We're gonna have to take Ukraine out of the tunnel. Let me just refresh. Let me refresh too. And make sure that we got it all. Who's coming out on Monday? Well, actually. Actually. Actually, we got another super chat from Gorillahanth. Thank you. $10, all hail Rebecca Chen, also Cameron and Riley. [132:38] Dave: And it's spelled R-E-I-L-L-Y, by the way, not R-I-L-E-Y, what is this? I'm sure they changed it at Ellis Island. On Monday, we are going to be- Dave O. Riley. We dropped the O. We dropped the O. It's okay. We are going to be joined on Monday by the one and only DD Geopoli4cs, Sarah. She's gonna be coming on. Poten4ally her co-host will be with her. I'm not sure. [132:58] Guest-1: But we're gonna be talking a lot about Candice Owens on Monday. [133:04] Dave: We are going to expose the living crap out of her. We're going to eviscerate Candice Owens and her husband, George Farmer. But what if we could cozy up to her? We are going to burn the bridge. We're gonna burn the bridge. And get some of that money. [133:17] Rebecca: No. We're gonna burn the bridge [133:19] Dave: and we are going to pull all together. It's gonna be us and DD Geopoli4cs and TPUSA and Nick Fuentes all pulling, pulling on the tug of rope against- The tug of rope, he says. Whatever, the tug of war. What, we're a tug of- It's the end of the show. [133:36] Rebecca: It's okay. Don't try to find words. We're gonna be all looking to put the nails in the coffin of Candice Owens' career, [133:46] Dave: spreading harmful and dangerous misinforma4on that is ripping this country apart, actually. It is a problem and it doesn't seem like anybody else in the media is willing to do this. I can't look away. I mean, it's incredible too. This kayfabe bullshit between Candice Owens and Michael Knowles and The Daily Wire. Do you people understand that Candice Owens and Michael Knowles go to the same mass together on Sunday? They see each other at mass and then Candice goes off and does her show where she takes money given to her by the Mormons in southern Idaho to aZack TPUSA. You know. [134:23] Rebecca: I don't know anything about this. This whole thing, we've got the whole thing. [134:26] Dave: There's a whole web that shows all of the intricate dealings [134:33] Dave: between Milo and Peter Teal, The Daily Wire, Rebecca Mercer, George Farmer, the whole thing. We're gonna- That is so spurgy and I'm here for it. We are going to go all out, Episode 98 Amanda, and we might even have to, because I think we might be streaming at the same 4me as the TPUSA stream, which is gonna be like breaking the internet on, what day is that, the 15th or whatever? I don't know. So anyway, DDG Opaul will be on, so that'll be good. Just got a big super chat from Paulie B. Paulie B. Hey, thank you, Paulie. Love it. I heard that always. Stolen from MaZ Christensen, Blonde. Just giving you all a Christmas gim is an apprecia4ve patron. I actually have stolen a few things from the show. [135:16] Rebecca: So- Always. You know, you take what you learned from previous career experiences and apply to them. I just can't stop. So like some of our outline stuff I got from the old show and then some of the interest of your favorite podcast. I can't help myself. I can't help myself. That's so funny. [135:34] Dave: We got another super chat from Zio, who sent us $12. As a Jew, I find you three amusing. Here is $12. You know, as much as I- [135:41] Rebecca: Thank you. This is great. Make blanket statements about Jews. I stand by everything I said. I do appreciate when someone is able to not be personally offended. Yeah. By the stuff that you say. No, I love Jews with thick skins. [135:54] Dave: You know, you can make fun of them to their face. And when it's funny, they laugh. I mean, like some of the worst Holocaust jokes that I've ever heard were told to me by Jewish people. I mean, I'll never trust you. [136:06] Guest-1: No, of course not. Of course not. [136:07] Rebecca: But- But I do appreciate the doughnuts. Listen, the soup, the matzah soup. It's the bad- It's not bad. And the bagels, I goZa- I'm gonna be bringing- [136:16] Dave: By the way, I'm going to the- And this is perfect as we're closing up. I'm going to be going to the Antelope Hill Book Publishing Christmas Party this weekend. And so I'm going to be going out of my way to get like a dozen bagels, freeze them and bring them back with me on the plane. Oh, then- Do you want me to bring you bagels, too? Hell yes. All right. Everything, sesame seed, poppy seed. I like an everything bagel. [136:40] Rebecca: I do. And then I like to make my own veggie cream cheese. GoZa have broccoli in there. Very good. But yeah, we've goZa give a big shout out [136:45] Dave: to Antelope Hill Publishing. 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There are also plenty of books on contemporary issues such as Episode 98 transgenderism, the opioid crisis in Chris4an na4onalism, as well as history books, novels and children's books. So whatever your interest is, you're bound to find books that you like at Antelope Hill, all professionally published and with sleek modern cover art. Help us and help our people by checking out companies that share our values and fight for our cause. Visit antelopehillpublishing.com and use promo code backlash10 for a 10% discount on anything you buy. Locks. [138:03] Rebecca: Locks? Yeah. Lock keys. Oh, no, no, no. Chalabread, brisket. The lock is okay, brisket's okay. [138:10] Dave: Corned beef on rye. Yeah. Mmm. [138:14] Dave: Bro. See, Carnegie deli doesn't exist anymore, but when it did, I used to go to New York all the 4me as a kid. And like, I remember one 4me me and my dad were in New York and it's like, you wanna go to Carnegie deli? It's like, yeah. And so I think we were on our way to a taping of Conan O'Brien, because I used to get 4ckets to go see Conan O'Brien all the 4me. I played with the Max Weinberg band once. [138:35] Guest-1: Back in the day. I need to see if I can find the clip of that or whatever. [138:38] Dave: They actually brought me on stage at Conan O'Brien and I played the drums with the Max Weinberg band. But anyway, it was on that trip. We went to the Carnegie deli and we both got corned beef on rye sandwiches and the amount of meat that they gave you. I mean, the sandwich, you couldn't even pick it up. They would bring you a bag of rye bread to your table so you could make extra more sandwiches to actually eat it because it was impossible to open your mouth big enough to actually eat what they served you. Oh, man. [139:11] Dave: You know, it's like all cultures that I despise, I appreciate their food offerings. [139:16] Guest-1: It's true. Like we dump on cheats all the 4me. [139:18] Rebecca: There is nothing I love more than a fine Indian meal. Curry fries. What? That's not Indian. [139:24] Dave: No, it's Irish. Allegedly. Yeah. Did that happen before or amer they came to Ireland? Were they like doing the curry fry thing while? I bet amer. Yeah, I bet too. The Irish are like, I'll eat this if you put some potatoes in it. They do cook, oh, Indians cook a lot with potatoes. [139:40] Rebecca: Oh, okay. That's not bad. I'm sure that's what you guys wanted to hear us talk about. Thank you so much for joining us. We will see you on Monday and on Wednesday. I don't think we're taking any breaks. No, no more breaks. [139:49] Dave: No more breaks. Unless people want to go on like a pilgrimage to Quito, Ecuador with me in late January, early February. If you want to, send me an email at infoaZhebacklash.net. I want to gauge if there are people, because you know, there might be some like older people that have 4me to do that and I'll go, that'd be fun. But if not, then I'll skip it and we'll just make content. Dave loves to hang out with strangers. It's weird. It's fun. That's a good quality in that human being. Because at your party, I was like, I don't know. Anybody. This is Episode 98 a social nightmare. Well, that's the whole point is to bring new people together and introduce one another and build things, build social networks, build social capital. Hi, my name's Sarah. [140:30] Rebecca: I have 12 children. I'm like, what the, every single person I met, these are my seven children. Oh yeah. [140:37] Dave: By the way, the Christmas party was amazing. There were a lot of kids here. Yeah, there were more kids than adults. Where are your kids? And it's like, we're all worried about like the future and it's like, uh-uh, like look at all these kids. They're all going to be 18 in like 10 years. It was like three to one ra4o of kids, kids with old kids. Yeah. Anyway, thank you. [140:55] Rebecca: Find all of our links to the backlash.net, not yet, dot, whoop, whoop, whoop. If I just have a stroke, the backlash.net, we will see you on Monday. Bye.